COYOTES AT OILERS G17 (12-13) 23.2.13
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins won’t turn 20 until April, but he’s shown us plenty in the months since he was drafted. RNH is proving to be outstanding at puck retrieval, passing and getting out of tight places. If his season long slump (not only is he not scoring, the Nuge isn’t hitting the net) continues we’ll have to re-think his offense but it’s clear he has a nice range of skills even as a teenager. If the Oilers ever get out Shawshank, I believe they’ll one day bask in a warm place with no memory.
- I must admit I didn’t think much of Andy first time I laid eyes on him; looked like a stiff breeze would blow him over. That was my first impression of the man.
My pre-draft worries over the Nuge began with this: he looked like the paperboy who delivers the Gazette. In early June of 2011, I wrote the following about him: “it’s a crapshoot. Ten years from now, the best player in this draft might be RNH, or Larsson, or Landeskog, or Huberdeau or Couturier. Hell, it COULD be Mika Zibanejad. The back story tells so well and the skill set sounds like a dream. I’m not certain Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is the best player available, but I don’t know that he isn’t either. If MBS likes another better, so be it. However, these long days from the entry draft everything points to a match made in heaven.” The fall arrived and the Nuge was facing all kinds of questions: is he strong enough? big enough? can he skate fast enough? Can he play in the NHL and still have time to deliver the Gazette?
- His first night in the joint, Andy Dufresne cost me two packs of cigarettes. He never made a sound.
The kid’s rookie season was ridiculous, especially on the PP where he posted a 20-assist season in 62 games (most PP assists by a rookie forward since 2007-08 when Nicklas Backstrom had 22 and Patrick Kane had 21). His patience and ability to elude checkers was a thing of beauty, he had a sixth sense about pressure and of course he was not well known to the NHL world. It was a wonderful season.
- Get busy living, or get busy dying.
The Nuge is something else. I hope he gets that shoulder straightened out before the fall, because his long term health is far more important than the current state of affairs.
Michael Parkatti has a great blog (Boys On the Bus) and he’s doing excellent work; it’s a must-see for Oiler fans. His post-game breakdowns are scary as hell but informative. Consider this from last game, in reference to shots for/shots against:
- Parkatti: Have a look at the curious nights by the men who started on the 2nd line. Gagner and Hemsky ended the night tied for a team worst -12. This is, of course, now the 9th time in 16 games Gagner has ended in the bottom 3 skaters for Corsi. But the young Russian who started on their wing somehow ended the night +4, for the 3rd best Corsi rate on the team. At some point it seems like Hartikainen was slotted onto the second line whereafter the entire trio got scalped at even strength.
It’s kind of a mystery. Tyler Dellow tweeted out last night that he’s going to do a post on it, but also tweeted this:
Well, we’re not alone anyway. It looks as though this is a pretty big problem. I wish Frank Mahovlich were 25 years old, or that Dustin Penner was being traded back to Edmonton. One seems as likely as the other, however. I think the following are contributing factors to the Gagner-Hemsky elevator shaft:
- Lack of chemistry with the gifted Yakupov. Hemsky can’t find him because the Rocket Russian can’t stand still and find some quiet ice. This is short term, but is having an impact.
- Too much individual effort. All three players (Sam, Ales and Nail) like to carry the puck but all three are also terrific passers. A little more passing and a little less one on four is in order. In the immortal words of Billy Ashley, the pitchers are reading this line.
- Attention to detail. Hemsky’s reverse pass the other night should have had a good result, but this Oiler defense is often a grenade without a pin. I think–especially in their own zone–a north-south approach to real estate is in order. Icing the puck isn’t a terrible result, and Ales had room to skate on that play.
- Small sample size. Tyler mentioned this in his tweets that we’re not yet at game 20, and that’s an important factor in all of this mess. The scoring chance metric shows this trio doing much better than the Corsi, and so we can hope that this thing trends back to the median.
- Inexperience: All three LW options (Nail, Hartikainen, Paajarvi) are younger options. If the Oilers had Scott Hartnell or even Dustin Penner I think the results would be better at this point in time.
The trio isn’t horrible offensively.
- Gagner 1.83
- Yakupov 1.44
- Hemsky 1.31
These are not world beating numbers, but another point for each and we’d be talking about a pretty good year (Gagner would be tied with Hall for the team lead with an assist or goal) and once again it’s early.
- Gagner 8.72 (leads team)
- Hemsky 8.43
- Yakupov 5.48
Gagner is last year’s Nuge so far, posting 16, 2-7-9 early season numbers with the man advantage. Hemsky is almost as impressive (16, 4-2-6) and Yakupov (16, 3-2-5) has been impressive (his shot is ridiculous) with the man advantage.
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There’s a lot of chatter about the Oilers being out of this thing already, but I’m not buying. Yet. I do believe Steve Tambellini could help things by adding a defenseman but the availability of useful help may not be strong at this time. Even if they don’t make a move, the Oilers should have enough to get on at least one very good run here in the next few weeks. Will it be enough? Don’t know. There are a lot of “middling” teams in the west right now, owing (I expect) to the quick training camp, injuries and schedule. I don’t think we should be talking draft lottery just yet.
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Taylor Hall (Oilers Street Fighting Man) is out today, I don’t think they’ll win. Time to cheer like hell, ladies and gents.



Another pivotal third period. They haven’t handled these well as of late.
You guys look at Portland’s scoring? Colorado’s 5th round pick d-man Troy Rutkowski is outscoring Jones. If we can’t get Jones, any chance we can trade for him, lol.
Agreed. AND Barkov is pretty damn good plus that Russian is trending.
He can always find his car keys though……
I was thinking Lowe or MacTavish but sure. Same ilk.
VanOil,
A sweet consolation prize as they slide down the standings, again.
Throw in Keenan and you have the 3 stooges.
I know I’m in the minority, but I was a big fan of Lowe as GM. My feelings are hurt….
i like SMyth with gagner and hemsky.
Yak-Nuge-Ebs
Marc,
try googling for a browser extension called ‘stealthy’.
McGregor nods and says “we drafted him because he never misses”…
If it’s any consolation I’m a big fan of Selma’s…Selma’s….u know
All that Yak seemed to need was to play with players that are talented enough. It is the other team that has to learn to play defense when he is on the ice with Eberle.
Good call by the ref, but too bad the ref looking right at it didn’t call it.
Yakupov is a fun player, I hope he gets hot in this third period and then rips it up on the road trip.
Lots and lots of fan booing, lmao.
Bookjie and Me get credit for the W if there turns out to be a miracle, btw.
Refs aren’t calling shit on the Coyotes. Its so bad I’ve been counting possible penalties…
Well played…..
So far so good this period.
Now put one home!!!!!!!!
About time, geez.
like i said
The legend of Harski!
Ah, Hartikainen you beautiful Finn!
YES!
HARTI!!!!!!!!
The ol down low double deflection.
Looks like RK knew what he was doing
Huge. Just huge. I hate this PP set-up but that was a sweet play by Smytty.
What happened to Jeff Schultz? Did we trade him?
64 looks infinitely better on RW
MPS is just a good hockey player.
fuzzy muppet,
Except he’s playing LW
Tonight; Eberle, Paajarvi, Harski, Smyth, Jones and Yakupov have been pretty good for the forwards, by my eye.
Paajarvi in full flight is a sight to see. I liked how he shortened his stride to let Hemsky pull ahead on that chance earlier in the game, too.
DBO,
He a roamer it seems Just have to have guys that can find him i Guess.
vande benched after that brutal play on the PK it seems
fuzzy muppet,
agreed. Ebs and Nuge work well with him, but I fear that line will get killed on the road where they can’t be as protected
I think that’s the first time NK has held the puck on an initial shot.
I like PRV and Hemsky speed kills. I love Ebs and Yak killers kill
The upcoming Chicago game could be massive. We did very well against them last year.. hopefully we can use it as a springboard for that road trip.
Lucinius,
Chicago looks unreal so far.
Hopefully the Oilers don’t switch into Bettman point mode. We’ve seen what happens when they do that.
somehow it looks like the little russian is our heart and soul now that Hall is out
fuzzy muppet,
Yeah, I know. But I’m an Oiler fan; I have to hope against hope for what little silver lining I can find.
Fistric uses the same pivot to reverse glide as Yak but for other means
Haha, Hemsky.
“I didn’t touch it! I didn’t touch it!”
Nice emotion.
OEL deserves to spend his career somewhere better than the desert
Nice work there by Smid.
looks like 64 gets shafted late in the 3rd.
I am glad we have Fistric telegraphing his rump all over the place. The other team is weary when he is out. Eager bringing the gristle these days too.
What are the odds of Bullin ever having a regulation win again in the NHL?
playing for OT
That’s a nice comeback today, ladies and gents. Very nice. Whew. You know, these even strength goals must be on the road.
NOW, a playoff team gets the extra point at home. Let’s see.
Well, we got a point.. better than we’ve managed otherwise lately.
Gotta like any YEG line.
20 and 94 to start OT???
WTH?
64 better be on the ice for this PP
4 forward pp!
Nice
there, get the Yakman out there….
No Yak on this is annoying. I’d swap Gagner for him, imo.
God forbid you reward 64 with space on a PP.
4 corners to play for shootout?
Lucinius,
or 83
64 please in the shoot out as he is well rested
Yak is either hurt or murdered RK’s dog on the bench and made a Russian hat out of its carcass.
fuzzy muppet,
Eh, I like 83 with 93 on that powerplay. Gives both half-boards a dangerous passer. I would of gone with Yak in lieu of Gagner for the big shot with Eberle down low.
yep, 25 secs left we should put Belanger and Smyth out there. killing me ralph
Not a fan of RK’s deployment of troops in that OT. Not at all
I know he’s getting points, but I’ve not been overly enthused by 89′s play lately.
The refs bet on the Oilers to win in OT.
some serious lack of hockey IQ on this team some games…Smyth with the long cross ice pass in neutral zone during 4 on 4 play…………..nice comeback from 2-0 though….
Gotta go with Hemsky, Eberle, and Gagner for my picks in the shootout.
Love to see Yak there, but he’s not good at them.
Well, got it right!
SICK!
Sudden Sam.
Greasy Gagner.
Eberle. Beauty. Oilers win.
that was lovely. Scarlett lovely.
Oilers win.
We win!
gotta like the comeback effort today.
Just makes this team all the more infuriating
The Oilers are the bestest team ever!
Thank the makers!
Well at least I will be a happy drunk for the rest of the day. Still blaming Pocklington for that piss poor display of the not so beautiful game.
who knew Dubnyk and Hall were the problems????
A win is a win (or in our other official language,’Gagner, c’est gagner’)
If I hear so much as a mouse fart in here the rest of the night I swear by God and sonny Jesus you will all visit the infirmary. Every last motherfucker in here.
I know how high you hold the good lady in esteem. I hope you are referencing the skills contest only the rest of the game was not up to her standards.
Who would be playing instead? Or would Dave Tippett also be our GM?
Dennis King Final chances: 29-17; 10-6 ST
Man. Man. Man. Man.
Not the best hockey out there, I almost scratched my eyes out those last 2 mins of OT but a big 2 pts none the less. We regrouped and retreated from center ice about 5 times in a row and then iced it. But after seeing the 2 shootout goals maybe killing the clock was a good plan. DYNAMITE! Now let’s try and have some real fire vs CHI and get something cooking.
Fox broadcast team post game mentioning how effective Yakupov was at making things happen offensively when he was on the ice. Then they expressed some bewilderment as to why he wasn’t getting more ice time and on the 4th line.
This was therapy for cynicism.
Great comeback and performance. I thought Gagner pulled Smith’s groin.
Yakupov’s best game to date (he’s getting there, folks). I hope Krueger keeps him with 93 and 14.
I’m absolutely 100% certain that this is the comeback that sparks the team into the playoff race; with the 18 points up for grab roadtrip breaking down like, um…
OVER/UNDER for playoffs/2013 lottery race 10/18 road points.
‘Cause Tambi wouldn’t be the GM if Tippet was the coach, it’s so obvious!
hunter1909,
Hunter, you have the wonderful gift of short memory or something. You go from the depths of despair to delusional optimism in a heartbeat…must be all the whiskey.
Love it. Consider it coined!
Oh yeah, meant 89 and 14 in the SO.
Staples has scoring chances 27-25 for Phoenix.
Leaving HNH second line? Worth a try just for the YEG
Lowetide,
Staples has final chances at 27-25 in favor of PHX
https://twitter.com/dstaples/status/305460827736117248
There have been worse games by by 35, good job, and no goals in the shootout.
Yeah, David and Dennis are miles apart in how they score chances. I’ve talked to both about it and they certainly have clearly defined definitions.
But they’re different.
Thank you for the kind words, but I’m merely putting up my over/under for Oiler’s returning to the Chuck either in or else out of the playoff hunt.
I could be a bore and go on about whiskey, spelled whisky, but that’s poor communication, particularly if you’re Irish or American.
Being a long time Oiler fan is a zen experience. The Oiler’s Yin/Yang wheel spins around like a 45rpm record.
Yeah. This.
Spector has Petrell playing Monday.
Lowetide,
Hartikainen scores a goal, gets sent down? Or 91? Or trade/waive a D?
All from edmonton oilers dot com
“This was a real critical moment in our season for us to stay with the pack. Thankfully we were able to pull off the win.” – Coach K
“Those were two of the best penalty shots I’ve seen in my entire life.” – Krueger on Gagner and Eberle’s shootout goals
“I saw Smytty standing in front so I decided to go to the net and look for the rebound … It felt good.” – Hartikainen on 1st goal
“When he came off, I told him that was exactly what I was going to do!” – Jones jokes about Gagner’s shootout goal
I’d put Whitney on waivers. The coach won’t play him.
Dan Smith has finally made it to the top of the nosebleeds to rescue his shorts.
Even the CBC crew was raving over the Gagner move. Kruge is right. Those two shootout moves are about as good as you will ever see back-to-back.
Chabot had been giving instruction on the shootouts earlier in the season, but from the Gagner post-gamer, sounded like the move was his own choice.
I was at the game and it didn’t look like the Oilers had 30 shots including overtime.
Is this just me?
I’d put Whitney on waivers. His parents wouldn’t play him.
Lowetide,
Why don’t they just waive Petrell?
What purpose does he serve outside of killing penalties, which 20, 28, 94, 91, 89, 54 etc have proven they can handle rather well?
Yikes. So this means Whitney has ZERO trade value. Not even a 5-7 round pick?
Maybe if the game were in Phoenix.
It got lost in the Omark spin move hoopla but Eberle’s shootout move vs. Tampa that game would be my favorite of his so far. Lightning hands (no pun intended).
G99zky,
Not only that, I bet he clears waivers. Nobody wants a peg-legged D-man.
Dave Tippett loses a 3rd period lead?
Very unusual.
I thought they played well and generally out played the Yotes, but every puck directed at Khabby was an adventure.
Can’t believe they named him 3rd star.
40 gets the start in CHI right?
Also,
If Petrell is activated off the IR I think a Dman is gone.
RK said he wanted 14F and 7D in a presser the other day.
I think Whitney is the obvious choice.
Wonder if they can get a 3rd for him?
Can you explain how these are presented. Is it always Oilers;Other and is the second set Power Play? If so, what is ST?
St is special teams
Woodguy,
I think 40 will start most games. My sense was that RK has outlined the starts for NK and DD well in advance based upon giving longer rest periods to DD. NK has a strong record against Phoenix so that is probably why it is this game. I would bet that DD plays every back to back game this season unless there are issues with his play.
jfry,
Well that makes sense, thanks.
For those who are wondering, Yakupov was probably sat for that dippsy-doodle turnover at the Phoenix blueline in the middle of the third, he didn’t play a single shift after that. I think Krueger would have played Yak in OT, but with play ending up in the Dzone he stuck the old guys out there to take it to the SO.
Fantastic.
Was curious about the glove save the dman made in the crease on Jones.
Isn’t that 1. glove 2. on the puck. 3. in the crease?
Only ice surface? or is it because it’s a swat out of the air?
Rebilled,
As long as you don’t close your hand on the puck or cover it, you’re usually in the green.
I like Kreuger.
He’s really good in the interviews, especially post-game.
Who comes out?
In no sane lineup should Petrell be in ahead of Hartikainen or Paajarvi right now. Lennart is ok as an extra forward, but no chance should he be taking icetime from guys who are better options right now with the possibility of getting better in the long-term.
Hell, they’re already into an issue for the Dallas game when Hall is ready-to-go…
Not coincidentally, Garrett is still with Sportsnet. One of these things is not like the others.
lol…don’t ever change Hunter..:)
As someone who lives in Vancouver and hears hin often, I can honestly say that John Garrett is the worst. Worst.
I’ll second that. Or 2,000th it, as the case may be.
The. Worst.
I don’t think there’s any chance Jones is coming out. Or Eager.
Options:
Paajarvi
Hartikainen
Peckham
Potter
Whitney
Vander velde
Out of this group, the only ones that don’t have to go through waivers are VV, Hartikainen and Paajarvi.
If past Oiler moves are any indication of future moves, it will be Paajarvi. VV probably isn’t going anywhere with Horc out. Harski has size, has been getting PP time and was the first one of the two Nords to get promoted up the lines.
I think they would trade Whitney rather than waive him, and likely the same with the other two Dmen. Whitney’s value has to be deteriorating with all the HSs.
Bra and panties has been heating up lately, so maybe it is the trade. Pretty sure most people are hoping for Whitney, but that leaves us with only 2 skilled puckmovers on the backend. And it is highly unlikely that a defenceman will be coming back, if the target team is looking for a defenceman. Not an easy situation.
The other possibility is they IR someone else, maybe even the Nuge, but he doesn’t seem hurt enough to be missing games, otherwise you’d think they wouldn’t be risking him right now.
I’m hoping its a trade, bringing in some help, but I’m not willing to trade away the world to save this season. We know that EV scoring has been Krueger’s greatest concern, so it seems likely its a forward over a Dman, but that infers both Nords will end up in OKC, unless it something like:
Whitney + Eager
for
Penner
I have difficulty seeing Lombardi making a trade with Edmonton… And likely he knows the value of Penner when he’s motivated by something… like say the playoffs.
O’Reilly’s a pipe dream because there’s no way Colorado trades him within the division… Unless the rumours are true that they won’t be after realignment. Or we see the ultra-rare 3 way.
Wasn’t goin to say anything, but…Diane Lane tomorrow? She’s back on the market. Link
Caps currently in 28th. If they stay there, they may begin selling off pieces. Tambi should be ready to snatch up Troy Brouwer