KINGS AT OILERS G15 (12-13). 19.2.13

It’s becoming fun to be an Oilers fan again. For instance, I have a crazy busy day but it doesn’t matter. Why? Oilers play tonight! Anything could happen! Saturday night’s game was an instant classic and I expect we’ll see a few more this winter.

I used to work the 5 to 8pm shift at CKGY in Red Deer, this is back in the period where the station was downtown. I lived two minutes away but the ITV games mid-week started at 7:30pm. I’d race home to catch the end of period one, and (this was eary 1980s) it was rare to see a 0-0 game after one. The Oilers were high event both ways and since I didn’t worry about Corsi or zone entries or PDO it was all good, clean fun.

I think we can (I can) get so caught up in the minutiae of the game it is sometimes easy to miss the pure joy of watching free flowing hockey. This blog helps, the in-game conversation is rarely heavy (do people still use that word? It was a staple in the 1970′s. You’d say something mildly intelligent and some knob would drawl “heavvvvveeeeee” and everyone would laugh and miss your point. What a stupid decade) and usually insightful. Hope we get some fun goals and a win tonight and hope you join me in the GDT.

The storyline tonight will be (partly) built around Teemu Hartikainen’s ability to play. Based on what we heard yesterday, it sounds like he’ll be good to go and will line up with Gagner and Hemsky. If he can’t go, Magnus Paajarvi would apparently move up the depth chart, meaning he went from hot dog eating healthy scratch at 7pm Saturday to hero later that night and then among the top 6F’s by Tuesday. A Star Is Born?

Theo Peckham’s conditioning stint is over, he’s on his way back to Edmonton.

yakupov23

Terry Jones has an article up reminding us of Canada’s official hockey ambassador Don Cherry and his measured, thoughtful comments about Nail Yakupov’s celebration after scoring a very late goal to send things to overtime last time LAK were in town.

  • Cherry: “You don’t do stuff like that. L.A. is going to remember this. They are going to remember this to the dying day. Don’t act like that, kids. You’ll get in trouble every time.”

DYING DAY! If only Nail had been born in Kingston. Silly Nail.

In actual news, the Oilers got a big win Saturday and would do themselves an enormous favor with a regulation win tonight.

  • Krueger: “As much as we’ve never gone two games without some sort of points, we need, badly, somewhere here, to put games together. We have to be in a stronger position for the (nine game) road trip. That’s the pressure we’re putting on ourselves right now — to string some together. It’s a necessity that has to happen.”

Oilers host LAK tonight, Minnesota Thursday and then Phoenix on Saturday. The following week they are on the road to Chicago, Dallas, St. Louis and Minnesota. That’s 7 games, and based on the season results so far Edmonton might expect to gather 7 or 8 points. They’ve been pretty solid on the road, and have been surprisingly strong against Chicago recently (certainly last year). The other teams are ‘in the range’ with the Oilers in the standings (well, St. Louis is ahead by 4 points) so a .500 record (say 3-3-1) seems plausible over the next two weeks. I understand Ralph Krueger creating a scenario where there’s pressure on during the homestand but I don’t really see how it’s a fact.

They’re doing fine. Avoid a long losing streak and you’re good to go. Hang around until the deadline and then address needs.

gagner

We’re getting into the season now (pretty much one third of the way, folks!) and the 5×5/60 numbers are beginning to add up, last year’s numbers in brackets.

  1. Taylor Hall 2.32 (2.07) up arrow
  2. Sam Gagner 2.00 (1.96) up arrow
  3. Nail Yakupov 1.54
  4. Jordan Eberle 1.43 (3.08) down arrow
  5. Ales Hemsky 1.43 (1.57) down arrow
  6. Ryan Smyth 1.42 (1.93) down arrow
  7. Ryan Nugent Hopkins 1.24 (1.98) down arrow
  8. Magnus Paajarvi 0.61 (0.75) down arrow
  9. Eric Belanger 0.58 (0.64) down arrow
  10. Lennart Petrell 0.57 (0.83) down arrow

That’s what we might expect, right? Lots of numbers close to last year, Eberle’s down but we were suspicious based on his own past. Fair? I think so. The kid has a nice number based on minutes and how he’s looked at evens (all over the place)–once he settles down this team is going to win some games they shouldn’t win.

I was prepared to trumpet the Oilers PDO number as a sign of great things to come, but the Kings haven’t squeezed out a drop since they left Shawshank. It the battle of thirst, LA wins and one hopes they don’t find deliverance before tonight at midnight (“Watch ye therefore, for ye know not when the master of the house cometh”).

eager

Ralph Krueger is saying nice things about Ben Eager. Joanne Ireland has the story in the EJ.

  • Krueger: “In the Western Conference, the kind of toughness we need is the kind (Eager) is bringing us. We need players who will go through you every single time you have the puck. That’s what we’re really demanding of him and I’m pleased with the way he’s come off the injury to give us that. That’s a lot of weight coming at you at a very high speed.”

Eager has lots of hockey issues (pass/take a pass, giveaways–he gave away the puck three times in short order the other night but nhl.com says he doesn’t have any) but the coach says nice things. You know what else he does? Plays him. 7.5 minutes a night in the games he’s played in (concussion problems have kept him from playing more). I think coach Krueger has made progress with the ‘great Oilers roster myth’–the 2 minutes a night player is no longer on the roster–and I do think a team needs toughness and attitude in the lineup. Just make sure they can play the game.

I guess I just thought Eager was a better player. The article linked from Ireland also talks about a free agent signing that took a year to pay off (Belanger). Good read.

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  1. BlacqueJacque says:

    Only Yak remembers to shoot.

  2. Lucinius says:

    And Hall hung onto the puck too long. Gah. This Oiler team is so frustrating. So close and yet so far from bridging the gap.

  3. SK Oiler Fan says:

    That’s the same zebra that put on a circus last time the Kings were in town!

  4. crude says:

    AND the Nuge is a marvel defensively.

  5. Henry says:

    The Nuge is such a marvel of coordination.

  6. Gret99zky says:

    Filthy Hobbits!

  7. BlacqueJacque says:

    Gagner solves Quick on a drop pass from Hall.

    Seconds after a weird bounce almost goes into the Oilers net…

  8. fuzzy muppet says:

    Look what happens when you shoot the puck!

  9. tcho says:

    I think I’m going to be very unpopular here for this, but seems to me that Hall is often guilty of trying to do too much on his own and ends up killing a play. Just me?

  10. Lowetide says:

    Gagner (Hall, J Schultz)

  11. Oilanderp says:

    SHOOOOOOOT!

  12. Kris11 says:

    Now the refs will do everything to give LA supposed makeup calls to give them a goal. It is that kind of reffing.

  13. Rebilled says:

    Nice drop #4

  14. JohnnyRocket says:

    Gagner!!!!

  15. Lois Lowe says:

    The stadium announcer said #19 Jeff Schultz.

  16. Kris11 says:

    TCHO, disagree on Hall.

    Are you related toTCHO chocolates in any way?

  17. Lucinius says:

    Such a weird fucking game.

  18. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    jeff schultz?

  19. Suntory Hanzo says:

    wtf…Jeff Schultz?? Twice?

  20. VanOil says:

    I am more impressed with Gagner wining the face off against Stoll than scoring. Also despite the goal, I think Yak needs to be on the ice for a 5v3′s we need some one to shoot.

  21. Henry says:

    Jeff Schultz. or Nick or Justin?

  22. tcho says:

    Kris11,

    Nope. Just tcho.

  23. JohnnyRocket says:

    RK, please stop putting 6 on the ice for four-on-fours. He is lost trying to pivot around in his own zone.

  24. striatic says:

    they’re still in this thing.

  25. Kris11 says:

    Good chocolate. Order some and preted you made it to all your friends. Presuming you call yourself TCHO to your friends.

  26. striatic says:

    LA broadcast team really high on Hemsky.

  27. BlacqueJacque says:

    striatic:
    LA broadcast team *really* high on Hemsky.

    He’s the best Oiler out there. Followed by Eager, Schultz, and Petry.

  28. JohnnyRocket says:

    What will Gagner be asking for in his next contract? It won’t be 3.5 per year.

  29. Lucinius says:

    Bloody Chicago giving Vancouver a point.

  30. BlacqueJacque says:

    Meh, important thing is that Vancouver heard Chelsea Dagger to finish a game yet again.

  31. Woodguy says:

    Meh.

    If you are playing a struggling goalie who looks to have rebound control issues, you many want to shoot the puck more often.

    Exits really disjointed and jail breaks making the D make first passes that are too long instead of 12-15ft.

    Not all of it is on the F’s though (most is), sometimes the D is ignoring the safe short pass and doing weird things. Petry in particular a few times.

    Just meh.

  32. Gret99zky says:

    David Staples‏@dstaples

    #Oilers outchancing #LAKings 17-8, but only Sam “Lucky” Gagner has scored so far.

    Dennis King‏@DKingBH

    2nd period chances: 8-10; 1-0 ST. After 40 min: 19-15; 5-1

    Who do we believe?

  33. Lucinius says:

    My god.. intermission player interview that had a decently intelligent question..

  34. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Neither team very impressive that period. It is a wierd game- stripes have them on edge?
    Not thar impressed with the Kings – Carter seems disinterested. Kopitar has taken a few shots from the outside when normally he’d bury his shoulder and drive to the net. Stoll invisible. I can see why they’re having trouble scoring.

  35. "Steve Smith" says:

    Gret99zky,

    Dennis, reflexively.

  36. Gret99zky says:

    JohnnyRocket:
    What will Gagner be asking for in his next contract? It won’t be 3.5 per year.

    Doesn’t matter he won’t be playing in Edmonton.

  37. Derek says:

    I’d take Kings SC’s, they seem to jive more with what i’m seeing.

    Although 5 on the PP seems generous.

  38. Gret99zky says:

    What’s up with Calgary always getting the second game of a visiting teams back to back?

  39. BlacqueJacque says:

    It’s not like the Kings or Oilers are expending too much energy here, but yeah, I noticed that too.

  40. Lowetide says:

    Oilers top line can’t get the puck out on account of being cute. Tiresome, and I love these guys.

  41. striatic says:

    Lowetide: Oilers top line can’t get the puck out on account of being cute. Tiresome, and I love these guys.

    LA is pretty much trapping on the Oiler’s blue line.

  42. VanOil says:

    Have Yak and Harti flipped lines?

  43. JohnnyRocket says:

    Hartikainan has looked a step slower than 89 and 83 tonight. Not sure about the line. Will anyone fit with them?

  44. Gret99zky says:

    The Nuge is a first class wizard with the puck.

  45. Oilanderp says:

    Cmon Hall, chip n chase when its a 1 on 4 and your team is on a line change.

  46. striatic says:

    just not getting the bounces tonight. nuts.

  47. Rondo says:

    VanOil,

    We could could keep Gagner if Toews was are #1 center.

  48. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Now his is D Sutter hockey. Should work well versus the Oilers. the odd man rushes against will start soon

  49. BlacqueJacque says:

    That’s a beautiful fourth line at work there.

  50. Henry says:

    Hartikainen is an ox. With hands.

  51. crude says:

    wicked game!

  52. Lucinius says:

    Harski and Paajarvi were beasts on that cycle. Something almost came of it a number of times.

  53. Oilanderp says:

    I’m about khabi’s age and I can’t for the life of me imagine making a stretch save like that…. I guess this accounts for our vast difference in yearly income.

    EDIT: I could probably drink him under the table though. This may or may not be related to my inability to ‘do the splits’.

  54. JohnnyRocket says:

    Rondo,

    i think that the Nuge might be closer to Toews than most people think. I believe he might be in the Datsyk-late career Yzerman range, as far as being an offensively gifted two-way player.

  55. "Steve Smith" says:

    Rondo,

    Rondo, my friend, you’re an accidental satirist in search of a target.

  56. Henry says:

    Go get Brown.

  57. BlacqueJacque says:

    JohnnyRocket,

    Hitchcock called it when he compared Nuge to Datsyuk.

  58. Gret99zky says:

    Dustin Brown is a piece of shit. .

  59. "Steve Smith" says:

    JohnnyRocket,

    Rondo means in terms of size. Seriously.

  60. crude says:

    ooof, is Nuge ok?

  61. Lowetide says:

    Rondo: We do.

    If the Oilers can’t find a place for Hartikainen well I just don’t know.

  62. JohnnyRocket says:

    5 with the failed clearing attempt, leading to 25 seconds of scrabbling in our own zone.

  63. jake70 says:

    I sense an LA goal comming soon.

  64. BlacqueJacque says:

    God dammit Khabi how do you cough up so many rebounds with modern equipment? It does 90% of the work for you.

  65. Lowetide says:

    Shaiko and Lando are damn good.

  66. BlacqueJacque says:

    Who?

  67. VanOil says:

    Lowetide:
    Rondo: We do.

    If the Oilers can’t find a place for Hartikainen well I just don’t know.

    I’d add 91 to that list.

  68. JohnnyRocket says:

    Eager with a great game. Can good Eager keep showing up? And Dubnyk needs the next start.

  69. Kris11 says:

    Lando Calrissiam?

  70. crude says:

    This ref is a joker. I am takin names.

  71. Kris11 says:

    Err… Calrissian

  72. Rondo says:

    I could imagine some Oiler fans would not trade RNH for Toews.

  73. BlacqueJacque says:

    And Yak is predictably back on the second line.

  74. Gret99zky says:

    Both teams will be playing for the Bettman point from here on in.

  75. "Steve Smith" says:

    Kris11:
    Err… Calrissian

    Yeah, we were all about to jump all over you for that one.

  76. striatic says:

    BlacqueJacque: God dammit Khabi how do you cough up so many rebounds with modern equipment? It does 90% of the work for you.

    you can get pads set up in different ways, including super stiff and reboundy.

    i think he thinks he can better direct his rebounds with a stiffer pad, but he so obviously can’t.

  77. BlacqueJacque says:

    I mean his chest pad. And his glove, for that matter. How do you give three or four rebounds off your glove? Sheesh.

  78. Kris11 says:

    “Steve Smith”: about to jump all over you for that one.

    That’s what she said.

  79. SK Oiler Fan says:

    what percentage of games have gone to OT this year? Got to be 30-40%

  80. Kris11 says:

    Nuge hurt.

  81. JohnnyRocket says:

    Whitney is a timebomb, every time he is on the ice.

  82. striatic says:

    Whitney jesus.

  83. Kris11 says:

    Nuge back.

  84. "Steve Smith" says:

    I don’t think I’ve ever been leerier of a goalie with a .970 SV%.

  85. FPB94 says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    Remember when Brian Boucher set a record for consecutive minutes of SO?

    Man goalies.

  86. BlacqueJacque says:

    Fuck you Khabi.

    Good night.

  87. jake70 says:

    Lol, there it is.

  88. Gret99zky says:

    off the linesman skate. loss.

  89. fuzzy muppet says:

    goddammit

  90. "Steve Smith" says:

    It’s okay – we’ll tie it up, and then the goal will be called back, and then Yakupov will score for real.

    His celebration will be really subdued, though.

  91. JohnnyRocket says:

    Damn it!

  92. hags9k says:

    Shit.

  93. Kris11 says:

    Haahahahaha.

  94. striatic says:

    all that for nothing.

  95. Rondo says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    Yo would be right

  96. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Fuck sakes – classic
    Eberle needs to get a stick on Carter there

  97. Gret99zky says:

    “I think Khabby will get first star tonight……(jinx)…..errrrr.”

    Thanks Gord.

  98. striatic says:

    Khabibulin has to have that.

  99. JohnnyRocket says:

    That hit by Hall on Doughty was almost worth the goal. Almost.

  100. pboy says:

    Hall has been looking to hit Doughty like that for 3 years now.

  101. "Steve Smith" says:

    striatic,

    What the hell are you talking about? It was an empty net goal!

  102. striatic says:

    that sucked.

  103. hags9k says:

    I just cannot believe how this team gives up so many last minute goals. Especially at home. Its been such a disease for so many years.

  104. Gret99zky says:

    Squandered.

  105. JohnnyRocket says:

    Bit of a wasted effort. Trevor Lewis and Colin Fraser sunk us?

  106. striatic says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    i meant the one before that.

    i’m on about a 60 second delay.

  107. Oilanderp says:

    You can’t blame Khabi for either of those goals, man.

  108. tcho says:

    striatic,

    Can’t fault Khabby on that. Great, subtle deflection.

  109. Woodguy says:

    Awful game.

    Lots of watching the play instead of making a play.

    14 was not good at anything.

    Never won a battle for a loose puck, just didn’t do much of anything.

    Game was right there and only a handful of Oilers really worked to get it.

    Meh.

  110. Lucinius says:

    Shitty loss. Five times a ref or linesman got in the way of an Oiler or Oiler play, and of course it ends up playing a part in us losing. Ugh.

    Worst player tonight, imo, was Eberle. Pulled a vanishing act for most of the game and really struggled defensively.

  111. Lowetide says:

    Man. That’s going to leave a mark. Oilers did it to themselves, though.

  112. jake70 says:

    hags9k:
    I just cannot believe how this team gives up so many last minute goals.Especially at home.Its been such a disease for so many years.

    It’s tired. They must lead the league in this last few years, and it’s probably not close.

  113. "Steve Smith" says:

    Oilanderp:
    You can’t blame Khabi for either of those goals, man.

    I blame Khabi for the 2008 recession.

  114. Gret99zky says:

    Does Ralph send a message to Ebs and sit him next game?

  115. JohnnyRocket says:

    Hossa is having a career year. Hansen deserves to have the book thrown at him. I hope Hossa is alright. It would be a shame if his season is cut short.

  116. Gret99zky says:

    Mark Spector Sports‏@SportsnetSpec

    For the record, saw nothing intentional in Hansen-Hossa incident. Can’t see any supplementary discipline there.

    Wrong.

  117. JohnnyRocket says:

    Sitting Ebs might be a smart move. He’d have a fire under him when he returned. It’d be nice for the vets to know that the kids aren’t so golden that the can’t be healthy scratches.

  118. "Steve Smith" says:

    Gret99zky:
    Mark Spector Sports‏@SportsnetSpec

    For the record, saw nothing intentional in Hansen-Hossa incident. Can’t see any supplementary discipline there.

    Wrong.

    And here we all were, sitting around, thinking to ourselves, “I wonder what Mark Spector thinks?” Buddy’s a mind reader.

  119. JohnnyRocket says:

    Gret99zky:
    Mark Spector Sports‏@SportsnetSpec

    For the record, saw nothing intentional in Hansen-Hossa incident. Can’t see any supplementary discipline there.

    Wrong.

    Completely wrong. How the hell is a forearm to the back of the head not intentional?

  120. hags9k says:

    Khabby played good. You have to be able to score some goals at home.

    Hey guys, you know what I think would really help this team? Wait for it… Call me batshit crazy but I think this team could use another defenseman!

    Hurry the fuck up Oscar.

  121. Rebilled says:

    When Petry(not his fault) did the stutter step behind the net before the linesman cost us the goal…

    0 points FFS

  122. bookje says:

    “Steve Smith”: I blame Khabi for the 2008 recession.

    Yann Danis would have prevented it.

  123. Lowetide says:

    “It’s tough giving up that late goal, but that’s not where we lost it. We were flat tonight. The result was what we deserved.” – Gagner

  124. JohnnyRocket says:

    Yes. We need another top four defenseman, so that Whitney can be traded to a contender as insurance.

  125. JohnnyRocket says:

    Lowetide:
    “It’s tough giving up that late goal, but that’s not where we lost it. We were flat tonight. The result was what we deserved.” – Gagner

    Good on Gagner. Damn straight.

  126. hags9k says:

    jake70,

    It’s actually just amazing. I think it is mental. It feels like the whole building just puckers the asshole with about 3 mins left, looking for the Bettman pt, and then boom there it is. It’s unreal how often we cave late. This one wasn’t as bad as usual, but it’s still really something.

  127. Lowetide says:

    One good thing, Dubnyk’s back in Thursday.

  128. RMGS says:

    That was a very winnable game if you take the Kings squad that showed up, and yet they lost (without a loser point, to boot). In a shortened season, that spells early golf games.

    Hall was a beauty again. Just wished he had better finish.

    Yakupov was good – maybe his best game yet.

    Khabibulin made me eat my words.

    Eberle’s lazy backchecking was on display tonight. The kid’s a wizard in the offensive zone but more of a bystander too often in his own end.

    Whitney needs to be traded or sat.

    And, god damn it, take more shots and drive to the net.

  129. Derek says:

    #Oilers outchanced #LAKings 19 to 6, but failed to shut down attack in final minutes, lose game. Blech.

    — David Staples (@dstaples) February 20, 2013

    The drapes, the drapes, the drapes are on fire.

  130. Gret99zky says:

    You’d think after setting a franchise record for shots last game and the 6 goals that resulted the Oilers would be thinking shoot. But, nope.

  131. bookje says:

    Gret99zky:
    You’d think after setting a franchise record for shots last game and the 6 goals that resulted the Oilers would be thinking shoot.But, nope.

    They only scored on six of those shots and the other fifty shots were totally wasted so what was the point of all of those shots. Really, I would rather have a team that took 10 shots but scored on all of them!

    Idiots!

  132. bookje says:

    I wonder if a sarcasm thingy was needed on that one?

  133. Derek says:

    Derek:
    #Oilers outchanced #LAKings 19 to 6, but failed to shut down attack in final minutes, lose game. Blech.


    — David Staples (@dstaples) February 20, 2013

    The drapes, the drapes, the drapes are on fire.

    Oops, apparently this was edited to 19 16 shortly after.

  134. geeker99 says:

    sending a wrong message if they send paajarvi down to okc, the kid is growing each game and is sensitive. i understand waiver wire rule but this guy is becoming a good checking nhl”er. i think a demotion to the minors would hurt more than help>

  135. Captain Obvious says:

    That was very frustrating. I haven’t actively cheered for a team in 15 years. It’s not all fun.

    Hall and Hemsky were very good, and I continue to like Paajarvi. Wish he would get more ice time. The most noteworthy player to me, and not in a good way, was Justin Schultz. He doesn’t look like the same player as the beginning of the year. He’s still an asset but that other guy was all over the ice jumping into the play at every opportunity.

    Oh, and I take everything back I said about Ellerbe. A fifth round pick for that statue might be generous. Peckham is still terrible though.

    [Edit] He won’t, but Hansen should get a serious suspension. I’m tired of guys getting injured on cheap shots. Suspensions should start at five games and go up in groups of five. No more Shanahan reading of the tea leaves and nonsense excuses like “reactionary” plays. You target the head with an elbow, you hit the head with an elbow, you sit five games. Next time, you sit ten. Also, ban hard plastic equipment.

  136. stevezie says:

    Captain Obvious: Also, ban hard plastic equipment.

    I know I tend to oversimplify things, but really, what is so complicated about this?

  137. loosemoose says:

    stevezie: I know I tend to oversimplify things, but really, what is so complicated about this?

    That dinosaur Don Cherry mentioned something like that in the mid-nineties…..

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