MARTINDALE RISING

The 2010 NHL entry draft was the first time Edmonton had selected #1 overall, and Taylor Hall is a cornerstone of the franchise today. The same weekend, Edmonton enjoyed 5 more picks in the top 100. We talked about Martin Marincin’s progress on Friday, and tonight we look at Ryan Martindale.

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In the Harvest Moon post on the evening of the draft’s closing, I wrote the following on the big center.

  • #61 overall C Ryan Martindale: Tall C with speed, Redline (at the top prospects game to scout this year’s talent) said: Until he rang a quick release snap shot off the crossbar in the third period, you could have told us he wasn’t dressed at all. ISS61, Bob Mckenzie #58 so it would seem to be a saw-off in terms of value. Tambellini says his inconsistency may come from growing into his body (6.02) and made it clear they were looking to increase size and C (and D) at this draft). MBS likes his talent but wants him to “be there” every night.

Ryan Martindale has not ‘been there’ every night. In fact, he’s been in Stockton (69 games) more often than OKC (33 games) since turning pro. It is difficult to know why he didn’t get a push (Martindale has looked good in pretty much every practice and exhibition game he’s played in the Edmonton area) but it quickly became obvious he was a “B” candidate for the Oilers.

A funny thing happened on the way to Rexall. Ryan Martindale emerged this season (in the last 10 games) as a legit option for employment in the AHL and (possibly) beyond.

  • 2011-12 and 2012-13: 23, 0-5-5 E
  • Since January 1: 10, 3-3-6 E
  • Total 33, 3-8-11 E

It was a long time coming for Martindale’s first AHL goal:

  • Martindale: “It was awesome, whatever you can do to help the team win. Everyone has been getting a lot of chances. It’s nice to get one at the end and get a nice bounce.”
  • Todd Nelson: “This is a big confidence boost for Marty. Hopefully he can keep rising. The last couple of games he’s played really well for us. For the second straight game, a textbook Tyler Pitlick corner pass produced a highlight-reel goal. Pitlick set up Byers for his third goal of the season with 7:08 left in the first period. It was great effort by Marty on the forecheck to get the turnover and then Pitter found Byers back door. It was just a good hockey goal.Marty also had a chance in the first period and didn’t shoot. We talked about it: ‘Marty, you can beat this guy. You have a good enough shot.’ He got the opportunity again late and it went in.”

I ranked Martindale #28 on the winter top 20 (I guess that tells you something, he was #28 in the top 20) and suggested the following:

  • #28 C Ryan Martindale 6, 0-3-3 +2 (AHL) and a guy who started well and then hasn’t played in forever. I don’t really know what’s going on with this player, but if he disappears for much longer it won’t matter. Is he skilled enough? He looks good in flashes, but the knee sprain hasn’t allowed him back into the lineup. I think he may end up being an “it’s always something” kind of player in the tradition of Eddie Caron.

Right now, the arrows are pointed in a very good direction. He’s certainly moving up the charts and would be safely inside the top 20 if this were summertime. A strong finish gets him in the conversation. We wait.

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12 Responses to "MARTINDALE RISING"

  1. leadfarmer says:

    Yeah I think the lockout was good for our NHL guys playing in the AHL, but bad for the rest of the prospects. Hopefully these guys recover and go for another deep playoff run.

  2. sliderule says:

    Zharkov with 4goals and 2 assists in last two games has caught fire since the Bulls added more skilled forwards to their team.

  3. voxwah says:

    Man Glenn Healey has quite the hard on for Phil Kessel.

  4. jp says:

    Gernat 0-3-3 and Musil 0-1-1 tonight in a 6-0 Oil Kings win. Nothing but PIMs for Moroz and Ewanyk.

    Moroz 51 9 16 25 +19 111
    Musil 45 6 16 22 +19 59
    Ewanyk 41 5 12 17 +19 104
    Gernat 11 0 7 7 +7 6

    18 games left. I doubt Gernat catches Moroz, but I wouldn’t bet against passing Ewanyk.
    I dunno if Ewanyk gets a contract this summer.

  5. Lowetide says:

    5 points for Gernat, right? 10, 0-5-5. I think that’s correct.

  6. jp says:

    Lowetide:
    5 points for Gernat, right? 10, 0-5-5. I think that’s correct.

    You appear to be right. I guess they update the team scoring on the WHL site instantaneously? I checked the team stats during the game (assuming it didn’t include any of tonight’s activity) then added what happened from the box score to that. Looks like I caught Gernat between assists 2 and 3. The GP and +/- I’ve listed above are off a little due to this too. Oops!

  7. Woodguy says:

    Matheson says Whitney is playing like Poti:

    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/02/03/whats-happened-to-ryan-whitney/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Matheson says twice in the piece that Whitney says he is healthy and therefore should be better.

    I guess as a reporter you have to take what a player says about their health at face value, but it pretty obvious that his left ankle isn’t NHL calibre any more.

  8. Woodguy says:

    Gabe’s site is up to date.

    Last year 5-2 played the toughs to a draw, which was one of the key reasons for optimism.

    This year they are getting their head kicked in:

    Dman RelCor:

    JUSTINSCHULTZ 12.6
    NICKSCHULTZ 4.6
    COREYPOTTER 3.8
    MARKFISTRIC -5.6
    RYANWHITNEY -6.1
    JEFFPETRY -8
    LADISLAVSMID -11.5

    I find it really interesting that all of Shultz (both), Petry and Smid all have 4,93,14 as their most common forward line mates:

    http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_time_on_ice_stats.php?ds=8&f1=2012_s&f2=5v5&f4=D&f5=EDM&c=0+1+3+5+8+7+9+11+13+15+17#snip=f

    I’m still trying to figure out how RK is deploying the troops.

    I think 15-19 get the majority of the ozone starts with the kids and 5-2 get the majority of the Dzone starts with them.

    Here’s the ZS for the D:

    JUSTINSCHULTZ 51.8
    NICKSCHULTZ 50
    COREYPOTTER 43.9
    JEFFPETRY 43.9
    LADISLAVSMID 43.5
    RYANWHITNEY 42.7
    MARKFISTRIC 39.4

    Whitney (and whoever his partner is) have 64-89-83 as their most common F line mates.

    Looking at the forward group though, 64-89-83 has 2-5 as their most common D pair:

    http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_time_on_ice_stats.php?ds=8&f1=2012_s&f2=5v5&f4=C+LW+RW&f5=EDM&c=0+1+3+5+8+7+9+11+13+15+17

    I think that 64-89-83′s performance is getting better and that will help drive more possession results

    Its certainly a work in progress and 64 is being asked to carry a heavy load as a raw rookie.

    Having 89-83-2-5 should help that and by eye the are starting to outshoot, and that should help drive some better results.

    Lots to digest there.

  9. Lowetide says:

    I think it was spoiler who mentioned last night/afternoon that RK seems to run 1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2 for awhile there during yesterday’s game. It was kind of like a loop.

  10. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Woodguy:
    Matheson says Whitney is playing like Poti:

    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/02/03/whats-happened-to-ryan-whitney/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Matheson says twice in the piece that Whitney says he is healthy and therefore should be better.

    I guess as a reporter you have to take what a player says about their health at face value, but it pretty obvious that his left ankle isn’t NHL calibre any more.

    Not sure why, but this reminds me of Shanahan last year taking Lucic’s word that he wasn’t trying to fuck with Miller… ok great! no problem then!

  11. jp says:

    Woodguy:
    Matheson says Whitney is playing like Poti:
    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/02/03/whats-happened-to-ryan-whitney/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Matheson says twice in the piece that Whitney says he is healthy and therefore should be better.

    I guess as a reporter you have to take what a player says about their health at face value, but it pretty obvious that his left ankle isn’t NHL calibre any more.

    It is pretty strange that he appears not to be acknowledging the clear effects that Whitney’s injury has had, and taking him at his word that he’s “healthy”. Especially when Whitney himself hasn’t claimed to be back to what he was before the injury, but rather that he’s trying to find his “new 100%”

    I think Matheson has a point though, that even allowing for the effects of the injury, Whitney isn’t playing well. He’s making bad reads, mishandling the puck (on O especially), and not doing a lot of other little things that can’t be blamed on his limited mobility (like not being tough enouogh along the boards as Matheson mentions). Whitney can and should be better than he has been, even with only 1.5 wheels.

    Lowetide:
    I think it was spoiler who mentioned last night/afternoon that RK seems to run 1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2 for awhile there during yesterday’s game. It was kind of like a loop.

    Isn’t that what you’d do with the current lineup? :)

  12. gcw_rocks says:

    The fact that Martindale and Rajala are rising shows why you draft skill, not coke machines.

    Let’s hope the Oilers have learned that lesson by the 2013 draft. Lots of skill this year and it would be a shame to waste another draft like they did last year.

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