OILERS AT HAWKS G18 (12-13) 25.2.13
The Edmonton Oilers matched up very well against Chicago a year ago:
- they lost 6-3 on November 13, 2011 in Chicago
- won 9-2 on November 19, 2011 in Edmonton (Hall hat-trick)
- won 4-3 on January 2, 2012 in Chicago
- won 8-4 on February 2, 2012 in Edmonton (Gagner 8 points)
Oilers won three of four, and out scored the Blackhawks 24-15 in those games. Two of the big offensive games in Edmonton’s season came against them and sometimes it seems a team matches up against another despite the standings.
This is not last season’s Blackhawks team. They now own the third longest consecutive points streak at 24 games, which dates back to last season and their prime problem a year ago (goaltending is a strength). Corey Crawford (.941) and Ray Emery (.930) back stop a team with insane scoring (Kane 9 goals, Hossa 8 goals, Toews 7 goals, Bolland 5 goals, Sharp 4 goals, Stalberg 4 goals and two more with 3 goals each) depth.
The Oilers have good goaltending (Dubnyk .917, NK .942) but lack the kind of scoring depth Chicago can send out every night. Hemsky 7 goals, Eberle 6 goals, Gagner 5 goals, Yakupov 5 goals, Justin Schultz 4 goals and Taylor Hall 3 goals represents the Oilers heart of the order.
Chicago’s won-loss record looks too good to be true, and I believe the Oilers are better than their record (but this is an Oilers blog and I still think this team can make the playoffs). I believe this Oilers team to be good enough now that we can’t really look at a schedule and say they’ll definitely lose, and tonight they might catch an over confident Chicago team that is on a historic run. They have to lose some time, maybe it is tonight. I’ll say this: better to face Chicago tonight than LA, the Kings have their swagger back and look ready to roll.
Krueger: “In my experience, in the past two seasons during the longer road trips, we seemed to get into a losing funk where we just accepted the fact we weren’t going to get points. That’s unacceptable now. The expectation is that we will get points every night, whether it’s our sixth game in nine days or the first game in Chicago.”
Love the Krewg. Hope he knows what he’s doing with the goalies, though.
Deadman Waking is a legendary contributor to this blog, and in last night’s thread he posted a brilliant thought which I now present in its entirety One note: Oilers chances have increased to 37.4% after last night’s Calgary win over Phx.
- DMW: For my taste, the best tool for following playoff prospect is Western Conference Playoff Chances 50/50. I don’t like the weighted projection until half a season is played: it gives too much weight to team strength on small sample size. The 50-50 tool doesn’t give a home ice advantage. This is nuts, but doesn’t matter much for the first half of the season (since for most teams remaining home games minus remaining away games usually stays within a fairly narrow bracket).Right now the Oilers are about 33% to make the playoffs and I don’t think they’ve shown what they can do yet. By the end of the season, you’ll often see seven teams at 80 to 99%, then four stragglers all around 30%. If two of those straggles meet, you might see one at 60% the morning after, and the other clinging to fate at 10% (that this adds up to more implies the other chumps watching the scoreboard that night would have preferred the opposite outcome, and that’s not even counting the Bettman disaster).If we come back from the road trip with eight points, our season is far from flushed, but at some point they’ll be needed to win four in a row (counting lucky ties). If we can’t manage that, we hardly deserve to be there. Eight points isn’t very hard if we can drag four games into extra time and Yak picks an auspicious occasion to light up some aching goalie up for his first career hatty.Here’s a question: How much is home ice worth, anyway, when you can’t win a face-off? We might be just as good on the road as at home right now (not good enough, but not abjectly terrible, either).In a regular season, if a team drops to 15% by xmas (this is extremely poor) and then turns it around and crawls back up to 30% by the trade deadline, the GM has a tough decision to make on whether to buy or sell.I tend to view 30% as indication that there’s still plenty of daylight to prove we belong. It’s no great accomplishment to sleep-walk into the second season on nothing but warm milk and Bettman cookies.If instead we put a streak together and bang some heads and we’re still at 30% then it begins to mean “too little / too late”.Another truism: a mediocre team usually sucks the hind banana on a least one critical statistic. Ours right now is 5V5. But OK–I admit it–it’s a shockingly pendulous hind banana.Oh yeah, on that chart 53.5 points gets it done. It comes out with this tool to 0.589. Around 0.560 is par with the Bettman point.
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Jason Gregor has an interesting article up on Taylor Hall here. Young man is showing some maturity:
- Hall: “I’ve started to realize that getting hit and taking big body checks doesn’t mean you are tough or playing well, it just means you are being a little stupid and reckless. You can still go to the hard areas, and you can still get a lot of pucks and make a lot of plays without taking a big hit.”
Tighter than a drum for second in the NW, DMW’s post really gives us a nice line in the sand. If we combine Waking’s post with Krueger’s thoughts above, that’s about where we should be feeling this morning.
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One final note: Over the years, the Oilers often offload players while on road trips. They may send out Paajarvi today in order to get Petrell on the roster, but I do believe the club may trade Whitney or Khabibulin on this trip. If there’s a market, I don’t think there’s a good reason to wait. Make room by flushing a veteran who won’t be here when the going gets good. jmo.



But now you know better than at least 10% of them.
Is this the Official “Katz Polls Oiler fans” online quiz?
It’s not like the Oilers do much to inspire much light, warmth, happiness, and hope in the first place.
He has all of those things…in liquid form.
http://www.behance.net/gallery/2012-Edmonton-Oilers-Octane-Calendar/3256059
You really should learn to stop slandering people, Steve.
hunter1909,
If you’re actually objecting, I’ll stop, but I recall you being pretty open about usually being drunk by the beginning of the third.
In Hunter’s “defense”, he’s as giddy as a schoolgirl out on a Saturday night without a chaperone when they win.
“Steve Smith”,
You can do whatever you like, insofar as I care.
Ya, and LT is an oracle.
Spector pretty sure the key to the game is fourth line scrubs hitting Seabrook after the whistle.
Is he serious about this Seabrook business?
Not only is he serious, he is sincerely convinced that everybody agrees with him.
Sadly I no longer expect any goals when the Oilers cross the blue line, once the puck gets dumped behind the goal.
Funny, we were all sitting here wondering what Spector might be thinking.
Mind reader.
Jones with a great effort there.
Swap 94 amd 91? Poor Smytty is 1/2 a step too late to most pucks. It likely doesn’tmatter in the end
Carcillo runs another Oiler… What’s Ben Eager’s role in this???
The next tape to tape pass I spot in the second period will be the first.
Around the boards and out to victory.
Carcillo is lucky Hall is in jail right now.
At least it is coming out this period. maybe in the 3d they will put it all together
I’ve been waiting to post:
Two… TWO! passes in a row.
But haven’t had a chance yet.
Two… TWO! passes in a row!
Derek,
Yeah, the forwards need to stay closer for the short break out passes.
No, I’m just wondering where all this negativity comes from.
Half the game is over and the Oilers are tied with the best team in the league despite missing a few key players (Chicago is almost at full strength).
Yet you continually point out the negative.
Yakapov is stapled to the bench. The. rest. of. the. game.
Hawks announcer scolds Yakupov for ducking, instead of taking the hit from Carcillo like a man.
Yakupov’s going to be the talk of the league, right up to and including when he’s traded out of Edmonton for peanuts.
The Chicago broadcasters just called Nail’s ducking of the Carcillo hit attempt “dangerous”; meaning I guess, that Yak owes it to Carcillo to just take the hit.
This is the longest ten minute penalty kill ever.
Yak gonna find pine for a looooong time after that shift
“Justin Shultz winging the puck around the boards. That’s not going to get it done.” The period perfectly summarized.
The Oilers could use three Taylor Halls right about now.
oy , yak.
Ed Olczyk is a moron. He’s whining that Yak ducked as Carcillo tried to run him.
BlacqueJacque,
Since you mentioned it, I think the Oilers are playing putrid hockey tonight – the worst I’ve seen them play all year.
I can stfu though, so long as they don’t fall behind. No need to spoil your enjoyment of the game.
One major positive is the defense, imo. They’re playing really well.
Jonesy/Smyth power play? Muck and grind coming out.
You could argue Carcillo shouldn’t be making late hits and he wouldn’t have to worry about people ducking.
Yak Attack!!!
Admittedly the second period hasn’t been kind, but they got back in the game for a while in the first.
And Yakupov BLASTS the puck into the net after some sick passing between him, Gagner, and Schultz. Yak’s playmaking is seriously underrated.
Anyway, I’m not asking you to stfu just wondering why everything is black whenever you see it? There’s so much improvement this season over last.
Carcillo could conceivably “protect” himself by not taking full strides at a guy who’s long since unloaded the puck. Wtf.
YAK ATTACK!!!!!!!
That Hossa-Toews line is dominating. Other matchups aren’t so bad to my eye.
There it is!!!!!!
YAKUPOV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yakupov is a really nice young player. I know he’s going to make mistakes and certainly 4line time is fine. But good on Krueger for not putting him in the doghouse so deep he didn’t get a PP chance there.
Yak!!! What a release. Helluva one-timer from that angle.
Way to go Nail. Your play has been all over the place but that one counted!
That’s what happens when you pass Yaks the puck on the pp.
anybody else seeing a bond between yak and gagner. Yak is always looking to pass to him. More so than he probably should.
Oy, Yak!
How do you solve a problem like Nail?
Hawks on their heels, lol.
Yaktastic!
Yak passes harder than Smyth shoots. But wow does he shoot. To the commentators point on getting the PP going on the road. i understand do to crowd influence getting more PP’s at home but see no advantage in executing on PP’s at home versus on the road. Line change order should matter little.
Gagner is the leading scorer on the team. It’s only natural Yak would try to pass to him, he’s doing good things.
Considering the Oilers best player is out and they are playing BY FAR the best team in the league, I’d consider this an acceptable effort
hunter1909,
Looked like Stamkos. They really have to get Yak shots like that more often. Stu was right, he rarely misses
Need Hall and Horcoff to be able to contain Toews a bit. And need Nuge to develop. And need Tamb. to get some friggin D help, which many of the posters here would’ve done, Boogie.
WTF was Eberle doing there? Just looking at the puck behind the net as a Hawk skated in for it???
Maybe 5 guys in the world who can fire it like that? Maybe.
What a rip. They need to work harder to set that up.
Nice play by Ryan Jones there.
Why did Potter go to Hemsky’s point there?
Really do not like that first unit.
BTW, how do you all like Nuge stripping the puck and drawing a penalty from Toews?
Smyth, Jones and Potter does not a power play make.
It kind of feels like Chicago can score at will, if only the Oilers make them angry enough. I think the only way the Oilers win is if they can put Chicago to sleep.
Nuge is really emerging as a complete talent. Sounds crazy with the points struggles but man he’s so wise.
Gags with the opposite of slick.
89 needs to make the simple play there…gaaaaah
BlacqueJacque,
Yeah. Nuge has made several solid d plays tonight.
the issue is getting the cross ice pass in clean.
Gagner’s pass was very, very close to being diverted away. inches.
it got through but you can’t force those.
For sure. He carries that first line. I mean, Eberle has hands around the net, but Nuge steals the puck, wins board battles, delivers hits, makes sick passes, forces opponents to give him space with his stickhandling and decent speed… If he continues to develop those aspects of his game and never scores more than 80 points in a season, I’ll be ecstatic.
Calgary Flames would kill for a Sam Gagner.
Ben Eager CAN NOT take a pass. It is incredible.
This is one game where the eye tells a much worse story than the shots. 17-14 CHI.
Oilers 55% in the face off circle after two…
OK they can’t score 5v5, as long Chi can’t either were all good. Hopefully Chi’s tried legs will start to show.
Sorry I’m watching the game on tape-delay – That was a helluva shot. Wow.
I remember a time when a select group of Oiler fans would tell you Eberle was the best forward on the team and Taylor Hall was disposable if the right Dman came along.
That seems like forever ago.
(I still love Ebs but he’s not Taylor Hall)
In shots directed its 40-25 for Chicago.
Woah, what happened here? Oilers got schooled in the first.
I’m liking Rekhab stopping play whenever possible. Even though it results in an immediate face off loss. Sure be nice to get this to OT, but I’m sure the zebras will enter into the equation in the 3rd
2-1 We Win, Edmonton Chicago, 2 – 1 Thats it!
Lowetide,
Tough pass, no? Just at the edge of his reach, I thought.
I did not believe you but you are right plus they are out hitting them 27 to 18. Cool
Prepare for an ugly third. Chicago’s gonna come out like wildfire
i don’t understand why some people are so eager to trade Gagner.
trading now is selling high, yes, and i think he will regress in time.
issue is, he’ll regress to being a very good second line centre. the Oilers don’t exactly have depth at centre. if you think you can replace him with a UFA or from within the system, by all means tell me who you will replace him with.
fact is, Oilers need Gagner, even if he regresses and even if Nuge totally works out as their #1 C.
CORSI IS A LOSER STAT. This is clearly a sawoff in terms of team quality.
Since Oil are on the road that means Oil > Blackhawks.
Gagner’s spin play was not as bad as I first thought – flopping to the ice is Not what the D should be doing there. If he stays on his feet Gagner’s play works. Buddy lucked into one of the few scenarios that played out in his favor.
IMO,
The team leading in hits is often the team chasing the puck the most often. Chicago is last in the league in hits.
http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/02/25/breaking-news-puck-possession-is-important-and-nobody-told-the-cbc/
Has there been much study into whether hitting drives winning? I’ve been convinced that it doesn’t since the Edmonton-Dallas series of the late nineties, but I suppose my eyes are as susceptible to deception as, say, Spector’s.
Oh, totally agree. There’s been 99 passes like that that have been broken up this year already. They need a 2009 Souray back there to pull the top forward up a bit to open up the box
There has been a lot of talk about Yak getting benched, Yak getting fourth line etc. Yet whatever Kreuger is doing, Yakupov is producing again.
Yakupov is the kind of player who, at least as a rookie, could easily get hat tricks nightly and still end up a minus on the game. If he can be a siginifcant scoring threat without being a definsive liability, that’s win-win. And a guy his calibre doesn’t need 22 minutes a night to score.
Less defensive responsibility and less time mean make big with the time he does have (brutal grammar, I know). It’s unconventional in the extreme, but it’s working. I think in the long run Kreuger could well be the smartest coach we’ve seen in Edmonton, which is saying something with a coach like MacT in our history). Not only is he willing to go outside the box, but he’s smart enough to see things in a way that makes unconventional thinking a benefit rather than a hazard (thinking JFJ on the top line here).
Good anticipation, Derek.
Chicago has definitely had the better game but does anyone else feel that the color commentators are overstating things? How many crazy saves has KHB made tonight? Chicago has had the territorial advantage tonight for sure but I think things are a bit overstated for the Blackhawks.
Mike Keenan doesn’t think that NHL players should be allowed to have senses of humour. Also, he’s crotchety and old.
Good to see Sportsnet taking CBC head-on by bringing in Mike Keenan. They’re working hard at finding a more disconnected blowhard than Don Cherry.
Lalongo shouldn’t be tweeting like a fancy dan.
Is Krueger smart enough to put the Gagner line out first now on the PP after out performing the other line for 18 games. Even when Hall gets back this shouldnt change.
Oh man. That was ugly. It’s like someone has cursed his stick.
Sportsnet needs to have a former Oiler on their Toronto panel for nights when they play. What about Curtis Joseph?
Dear 630CHED: Who on God’s green earth would possibly want an Oilers jersey signed by Oprah? The very existence of the thing seems like it falls into the category of ‘things that should not be.’
Derek,
I agree with you and Steve Smith’s points about hits not correlating with success. I brought them up because the idiots commentating during the breaks on all three networks insist Oilers are soft. i would not trade a bucket of pucks let alone a Gagner or Yak for a hitting machine like Carcillo. I like Yak ducking his check, wouldn’t mind if he got his elbow or stick up while doing so and love him scoring as pay back.
Minister D-,
I’d like to add it to my collection, which currently consists of a toy brachiosaurus signed by Harrison Ford and a spatula signed by Noam Chomsky.
Dennis King scoring chances 2nd period chances: 7-7; 3-0 ST. After 40 min: 11-11; 4-2 ST
Buchberger’s been working on D and video with Nail? Uh oh…
i’d settle for a 2013 Souray.
Well, the talking heads are right about one thing – biggest period of the season for the Oilers.
I like how Sportsnet is bitching about the circle back tactic if nothing presents itself offensively…
And Detroit has been doing it for a decade or so as a relatively common occurrence.
Just caught up on the PVR.
Watching the game on tape delay.
Hands up who know what “tape” is?
No, LT not 8-track.
Love they are pushing the break out up the middle. So much better for this team.
Getting out played, but they are playing their game, which is nice to see.
Yak’s release is ridiculous. Top 5 in NHL?
Carcillo can suck a bag of dicks. Hope he twists his knee.
Asshole.
91 is taking a beating in all th right areas and becomeing a Real NHL player.
Love it.
83 looks like he’s “into it”
“Steve Smith”,
Would you trade that spatula for a Chis Hedges signed turkey baster? I need that to complete my collection.
If Oprah owned the Oilers, one day everyone would look under their seat at Rexall or their keyboard at home, and “YOU”RE ALL GETTING CARS!!!!”
Instead, we have what we have.
Man, I wish Oprah owned the Oilers.
Actually, I bet she’d do a great job. The lady knows competition, entertainment, and business politics.
I vote Oprah and LT for Oilers brass.
I have been conditioned to interpret all comments on this blog as serious without the presence of an upside down exclamation mark.
I’ll take the spatula.
“Steve Smith”,
How much for that spatula?
LMHF#1,
“Nail, whatever happens, USE YOUR FACE”
Holy Heartattack Khabi. Crazy.
The only issue he’s having is that he still stops skating when he takes a pass. He’s got to figure out how to keep moving.
It’s a goal. Khabibulin needs to stop that.
That goes in.
Horrible, horrible goal to let in.
Steve,
I have a US dollar bill signed by Treasury Secretary Geithner *swoons*. I’ll give it to you for five dollars.
quick, someone print up some “Oprah/Lowetide 2013″ stickers.
That’s a goal. Puck sit there for an eternity and no one clears it OR checks a man
spoiler,
You don’t want to know what I had Ayn Rand sign.
lol. My wife with the comment of the night as we were catching up on the PVR. Commentators were saying how important it was for the Oil to maintain the lead. My wife chimes in, “What? You’re DREAMING If you think the Oilers are going to hold onto a 2-1 lead!”
I’ll raise your one turkey baster and bid a Persian Rug woven by Kiri te Kanawa.
Aaaah, I can breathe a sigh of relief. Edmonton is terrible with a lead: now I don’t have to worry about them playing with one. I smell a win.
So much for the “showcase”.
Ugh, gotta stop that one, Khabi.
And when all else fails, get yourself beat up.
As someone who played goal…
There’s no way — no way at all that should go in, ever. Horrible defensive play by the defenders and utterly horrific by Khabbi.
What the hell is going on with Eberle?
Oilers are so good they’re going to be the first team to score three goals in overtime.
What’s wrong with Eberle? He’s been pretty bad lately.
Predictable. Lots of game tape now.
Great… great timing, Khabi.
I must complement the work Gagner has put in with his skating. He is playing tonight with two players with wings for feet and not embarrassing himself. Note to Ebs and Nuge when playing with Smyth put it on net.
Eberles contract is going to cost us 1.5M more per year than we needed to spend if we waited a year.
Could have got him for 5M and now Gagner is going to be able to make a case for another half million on his contract if he continues to out pace Eberle like this.
why is it that when i watch the Hawks, i never notice Patrick Sharp.
he’s supposed to be a good player, right?
Oilers are so passive with the puck in the open, especially in the neutral zone/defensive zone. Pretty sad.
I realize Chicago’s a better team, but they played last night and it looks like Edmonton’s the tired team
On that shift 14 had two opportunities to clear the zone and gave a half-ass effort on both. I’m starting to think that 14 needs to be the next HS. Light a fire under him.
He has a surprisingly limited number of moves, the more we see of him. He’s going to have to diversify his game if he want to continue to succeed. Cutting wide down the left while holding the defender at bay with his right arm until he can go backhand on the net looks cool, but it’s getting pretty old pretty fast.
Only a matter of time now…
icecastles,
Honestly, the biggest problem I’ve seen with him is :effort: related. More and more he just doesn’t seem to want to skate.
fuzzy muppet,
Let’s be fair,
Chicago is the best team in the league. A record-setting team. One whose stats back up their position in the standings.
Ryan Jones with a smart play there.
That’s what it feels like when you find yourself saying ‘hold on boys’ with 15 min left!
Eberle seems to have woken up.
Time too steal this one.
Credit the zebras for not biting on that dive.
Oh my God!
Yakupov’s release is really world class. No pause, no hesitation, no extra tenth of a second to flex the stick. Puck coming BAM it’s gone.
I’ve been noticing that. Penner-like in his desire to get to rebounds and loose pucks. I recall Hall once saying that Eberle was the most competitive guy he’d played with and was the most competitive of the group. Wonder what’s up.
The horrible passing has now infected the PP.
Do RNH and Hemsky know they are team mates?
What a waste that was.
They’re far from killers at this point.
Fuck me. Since that Yak goal, the PP has been an embarrassment.
Eager, Petrell, and Belanger on the end of the poerplay. Might as well. We were being outplayed 5 on 4.
Some of the worst passing attempts I have ever seen on that powerplay.
Ben Eager. Le sigh.
it’s amazing how lazy Hemsky has been on the puck.
Boys – it’s Ray Emery – SHOOT THE PUCK!
This is starting to look like the first period in San Jose.
DUMP THE FUCKING PUCK.
Potter getting way too much ice time, apparently. No way he should get that much.
Chicago has some pretty good PK’ers
Think that backdoor pass caught Yak’s blade a little close to the heel, otherwise it was in.
Chicago. What a terrible hockey team. Time to blow it up and follow the Edmonton model.
Eberle’s making bad play after bad play right now . Sit him
How do the Hawks defensemen always get to our outlet passes before our forwards do?
This is some really intense hockey right here. The Oilers could be better, but you can tell they’re starting to focus.
28 has been very solid since his return…quite refreshing
Thank god Hall is back next game. Smyth is just a virus on that line that kills every bit of momentum with his cement hands and concrete feet.
91 continues to impress me tonight
OK Chicago, play for OT? A wee point for this small pest of a team isn’t too much to ask…
would he break up 14 and 93 for the love of GOD!
This kid on the Ford commercial looks pretty good… wonder if he’s signed.
Agreed. This is a player that is forcing his way up the lineup. There is no way he is sent down.
42 percent body fat,
Yeah, been saying that for a few days now.
I really want to see 93, 83 and 89, 14 together for a game or two.
5 and 93 have had decent nights in the d zone tonight. I swear 93 is the only player capable of getting the puck out of the d zone with control
RNH and Ebs really can’t retrieve pucks in the corner.
Ben Eager with 2 minutes more ice time than Yakupov right now.
Gagner’s bad play as a winger notwithstanding, who do you imagine would be centering our second unit in this scenario?
Lucinius,
they have been in the d zone the whole game.
has a team ever pulled their goalie during 4v4 OT?
14 completely abandons his check after waving the defenseman to the other man.
94 looks absolutely dead on his feet.
Great play by 89 there in his own corner.
They start the road trip with a single point. 9 games, 9 points? I know we’d like to see more but that’s a total that would keep them within range. Fair?
Man. It would be very good to see 2 points to start the trip.
Who’s the girl?
I don’t mind playing 93 against Toews, but he’s gonna need a lot more help than 14 and 94 if he ever wants to come out ahead.
BlacqueJacque,
Well, with Hall back my powerplay units would go;
4-93-83-91-19 and
94/56/28-89-64-14-2
With these two goalies these two teams should have posted 4-4 not 2-2
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94 needs his minutes managed. Playing first line minutes is not ideal for him.
Oilers with at least 1 of those 10 points needed on their big road trip. So, not a bad start at all.
Stupid Oilers – this will only make it harder to catch Black Hacks for first overal!
If it really is a “loser point”, Edmonton should be in, like, 6th place. They lose all the time!
Have to think Edmonton has the edge in the shootout though. Among other things, there is much less of a book on some of the Oilers shooters, and I don’t recall Emery as being a great shootout goalie.
Sadly, I think Chicago is a bit too good and Edmonton a bit too soft to get to the shootout.
Love the guy, but He’s lost 95% of races to the puck tonight. In all farness 1 line vs chi is Not a good matchup for him
where were the d?
Thanks for that, jackass.
Dang.
To use NBA expressions, Patrick Sharp broke Jeff Petry’s ankles.
Wow…
Petry…
How can you be so bad?