OILERS AT HAWKS G18 (12-13) 25.2.13

The Edmonton Oilers matched up very well against Chicago a year ago:

Oilers won three of four, and out scored the Blackhawks 24-15 in those games. Two of the big offensive games in Edmonton’s season came against them and sometimes it seems a team matches up against another despite the standings.

This is not last season’s Blackhawks team. They now own the third longest consecutive points streak at 24 games, which dates back to last season and their prime problem a year ago (goaltending is a strength). Corey Crawford (.941) and Ray Emery (.930) back stop a team with insane scoring (Kane 9 goals, Hossa 8 goals, Toews 7 goals, Bolland 5 goals, Sharp 4 goals, Stalberg 4 goals and two more with 3 goals each) depth.

The Oilers have good goaltending (Dubnyk .917, NK .942) but lack the kind of scoring depth Chicago can send out every night. Hemsky 7 goals, Eberle 6 goals, Gagner 5 goals, Yakupov 5 goals, Justin Schultz 4 goals and Taylor Hall 3 goals represents the Oilers heart of the order.

Chicago’s won-loss record looks too good to be true, and I believe the Oilers are better than their record (but this is an Oilers blog and I still think this team can make the playoffs). I believe this Oilers team to be good enough now that we can’t really look at a schedule and say they’ll definitely lose, and tonight they might catch an over confident Chicago team that is on a historic run. They have to lose some time, maybe it is tonight. I’ll say this: better to face Chicago tonight than LA, the Kings have their swagger back and look ready to roll.

Krueger: “In my experience, in the past two seasons during the longer road trips, we seemed to get into a losing funk where we just accepted the fact we weren’t going to get points. That’s unacceptable now. The expectation is that we will get points every night, whether it’s our sixth game in nine days or the first game in Chicago.”

Love the Krewg. Hope he knows what he’s doing with the goalies, though.

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Deadman Waking is a legendary contributor to this blog, and in last night’s thread he posted a brilliant thought which I now present in its entirety One note: Oilers chances have increased to 37.4% after last night’s Calgary win over Phx.

  • DMW: For my taste, the best tool for following playoff prospect is Western Conference Playoff Chances 50/50. I don’t like the weighted projection until half a season is played: it gives too much weight to team strength on small sample size. The 50-50 tool doesn’t give a home ice advantage. This is nuts, but doesn’t matter much for the first half of the season (since for most teams remaining home games minus remaining away games usually stays within a fairly narrow bracket).Right now the Oilers are about 33% to make the playoffs and I don’t think they’ve shown what they can do yet. By the end of the season, you’ll often see seven teams at 80 to 99%, then four stragglers all around 30%. If two of those straggles meet, you might see one at 60% the morning after, and the other clinging to fate at 10% (that this adds up to more implies the other chumps watching the scoreboard that night would have preferred the opposite outcome, and that’s not even counting the Bettman disaster).If we come back from the road trip with eight points, our season is far from flushed, but at some point they’ll be needed to win four in a row (counting lucky ties). If we can’t manage that, we hardly deserve to be there. Eight points isn’t very hard if we can drag four games into extra time and Yak picks an auspicious occasion to light up some aching goalie up for his first career hatty.Here’s a question: How much is home ice worth, anyway, when you can’t win a face-off? We might be just as good on the road as at home right now (not good enough, but not abjectly terrible, either).In a regular season, if a team drops to 15% by xmas (this is extremely poor) and then turns it around and crawls back up to 30% by the trade deadline, the GM has a tough decision to make on whether to buy or sell.I tend to view 30% as indication that there’s still plenty of daylight to prove we belong. It’s no great accomplishment to sleep-walk into the second season on nothing but warm milk and Bettman cookies.If instead we put a streak together and bang some heads and we’re still at 30% then it begins to mean “too little / too late”.Another truism: a mediocre team usually sucks the hind banana on a least one critical statistic. Ours right now is 5V5. But OK–I admit it–it’s a shockingly pendulous hind banana.Oh yeah, on that chart 53.5 points gets it done. It comes out with this tool to 0.589. Around 0.560 is par with the Bettman point.

Jason Gregor has an interesting article up on Taylor Hall here. Young man is showing some maturity:

  • Hall: “I’ve started to realize that getting hit and taking big body checks doesn’t mean you are tough or playing well, it just means you are being a little stupid and reckless. You can still go to the hard areas, and you can still get a lot of pucks and make a lot of plays without taking a big hit.”

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Tighter than a drum for second in the NW, DMW’s post really gives us a nice line in the sand. If we combine Waking’s post with Krueger’s thoughts above, that’s about where we should be feeling this morning.

One final note: Over the years, the Oilers often offload players while on road trips. They may send out Paajarvi today in order to get Petrell on the roster, but I do believe the club may trade Whitney or Khabibulin on this trip. If there’s a market, I don’t think there’s a good reason to wait. Make room by flushing a veteran who won’t be here when the going gets good. jmo.

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  1. LMHF#1 says:

    Absolutely horrible coverage by Petry. What the hell was that?!?!

  2. Derek says:

    Hossa had more shots on net in that opportunity than the Oilers had all game.

  3. Lowetide says:

    Jeff Petry left his jock at center ice. Lordy.

  4. striatic says:

    “Steve Smith”: Thanks for that, jackass.

    i accept full responsibility : /

  5. fuzzy muppet says:

    WTF was Petry doing on that play? AWFUL

  6. Ice Sage says:

    No Hall, 2nd string G, massive talend deficit? A pretty good outcome.

  7. icecastles says:

    Gagner remembers he’s still on the ice just as the puck crosses the line. Point per game or not, if he still hasn’t figured out the defensive game yet to any meaningful extent, its not going to come. On a defensively sound team, he could be fine. This isn’t that team.

  8. tcho says:

    2 beat pretty bad by Sharp to set that goal sequence up, but then nobody there to clear anybody with 3-4 point blank chances? Jeepers.

  9. russ99 says:

    JohnnyRocket,

    Cmon, we’re 19 games in to the season. It took him until late February for Smyth to wear down this much last year.

    Horseshit D on that winning goal. At least we got the Bettman point. We’ll get em on the 10th.

  10. Wes Mantooth-11 says:

    Oh, what’s that? Gagner and Hemsky on the ice……no way! There solid back there!

    Fuck sake’s

  11. Lucinius says:

    Well, that’s three goals that shouldn’t have happened if the Oilers actually knew how to play in their own end. Kinda pathetic of Chicago, really.. only getting three goals against defensive coverage from pee-wee.

    Well, we got a point that was very much undeserved. So, yay?

  12. LMHF#1 says:

    Lowetide:
    Jeff Petry left his jock at center ice. Lordy.

    Wasn’t even a good set of moves and he gets beat clean twice. All he had to do was not chase. Then he runs behind the net and takes no one. That’s inexcusable in PeeWee…

  13. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Wtf was petry doing going behind the net? Dumb

  14. hags9k says:

    Petry that’s not good enough.

  15. tcho says:

    Fairness to Petry, I hear that Sharp fellow’s a pretty good player… but why is no one there to clear the front of the net in the mess that follows?

  16. Woodguy says:

    The better team won, but I like the Oiler’s commitment to their break out and forecheck better tonight than all year.

    Good things coming if they play like this.

    Especially if they play like this when they add Hall back.

    Missing some better D to keep the slot clear, but overall for the roster, the played not bad.

    Just played the best team in the league who didn’t play bad.
    i

  17. justDOit says:

    Petry played a good game, until getting beat and then chasing behind the net.

  18. BlacqueJacque says:

    icecastles:
    Gagner remembers he’s still on the ice just as the puck crosses the line. Point per game or not, if he hasn’t figured out the defensive game yet to any meaningful extent, its not going to come. On a defensively sound team, he could be fine. This isn’t that team.

    Oh jeez you can’t pin that on Gagner.

    Petry loses his man, Smid comes in to help but after Sharp is no longer dangerous, in the process abandoning Hossa. Sharp has an open lane, Hossa is open.

    None of that is on Gagner.

  19. VanOil says:

    It could have been worse, it needs to get better.

  20. JohnnyRocket says:

    We were lucky to get the point. We missed Hall on the first line. Eberle’s head wasn’t in the game. Smyth was sucking wind. And the Blackhawks are a fine hockey team at the top of their game.

  21. spoiler says:

    Shots directed 63-34. Hawks deserved the two points.

    FOs 51-49% for us.

    Yak with 9:05 ice time, Eager 11:45.

  22. OilLeak says:

    Man, Oiler fans have sure been beaten down over the years when overtime losses are considered wins.

  23. LMHF#1 says:

    Wes Mantooth-11:
    Oh, what’s that? Gagner and Hemsky on the ice……no way! There solid back there!

    Fuck sake’s

    How exactly are they responsible for the idiot defenceman out back taking a crap?

    Come on…

  24. icecastles says:

    Who the fuck is this breathlessly grinning kindergarten teacher on Sportsnet?

    I hate everyone and everything right now. Stupid hockey.

  25. 42 percent body fat says:

    never mind they were behind the net holding hands.

  26. Woodguy says:

    Also,

    5 didn’t have a bad game, but needs 2 rolls of TP to clean the shit off the bed in OT

  27. Lucinius says:

    You know, I keep hearing how positive Krueger is. How he always finds the silver linings and keeps things up-beat with the players.

    By the end of this season Krueger will be found dead in a ditch from alcohol abuse from coaching this team.

  28. icecastles says:

    LMHF#1: How exactly are they responsible for the idiot defenceman out back taking a crap?

    Gagner was in front of the net. All he had to do was reach a stick out Stood there like an idiot. If your approach to defense is “nah it’s cool, that’s not my guy” you’re going to lose a lot of games.

    Like all of them.

  29. Captain Happy says:

    Gagner was watching flat footed.

    He didn’t take the man in the slot.

    It’s all on him.

  30. BlacqueJacque says:

    Woodguy,

    If it was Patrick Kane, I’d understand Petry having trouble. But Patrick Sharp isn’t that good.

  31. Wes Mantooth-11 says:

    LMHF#1,

    Watch the play again, Petry is beat…but his man goes around, hosts a slips out front…….who the hell do you suppose is late coming to the front….I suggest you look again.

    Once or twice is a anomaly, five or six times is a pattern.

  32. Woodguy says:

    2 needs to not just mosey behind the net after losing Sharp when 4 on 4 as well.

  33. RMGS says:

    I’ll gladly take the loser point, but…

    - Khabibulin cannot be starting as many games as he is. Two bad goals. That’s on Krueger.
    - The Oilers continue to try to pass the puck in the net. Too many passed up opportunities.
    - RNH (nor his linemates) didn’t have it this game.
    - I love him, but Hemsky has to start producing (again).

    Still, without the team’s best player, I’ll take the loser point.

  34. BlacqueJacque says:

    icecastles: Gagner was in front of the net. All he had to do was reach a stick out Stood there like an idiot. If your approach to defense is “nah it’s cool, that’s not my guy” you’re going to lose a lot of games.

    Like all of them.

    You’re on crack.

    Gagner was covering the d-man on the point.

  35. LMHF#1 says:

    icecastles: Gagner was in front of the net. All he had to do was reach a stick out Stood there like an idiot. If your approach to defense is “nah it’s cool, that’s not my guy” you’re going to lose a lot of games.

    Like all of them.

    There is no covering up for what Petry did. That was about as horrible a sequence you’re going to see. It is one thing to overskate your check twice when there’s absolutely no need, but to then just skate away from the opposition is unbelievable. He wasn’t near anybody.

  36. SK Oiler Fan says:

    That’s the worst 10 second sequence of the year for an Oiler. Congrats 2

  37. striatic says:

    OilLeak: Man, Oiler fans have sure been beaten down over the years when overtime losses are considered wins.

    i’ve been much more upset over overtime losses than i am by this one.

    this one was strangely tolerable, given that the game should have gone to OT to begin with.

  38. russ99 says:

    Wes Mantooth-11,

    Since when is is a forward’s job to clear the crease?

    Had our defense not wet the bed, Gagner woudn’t have been put in that position. He made a nice defensive play in the corner earlier, so he can make plays in our zone, he’s just not or will ever be confused with a defenseman.

    BTW – Smid did zero while he was in the crease and closer to the opponent and the puck than Gagner. Haters gonna hate…

  39. fuzzy muppet says:

    icecastles,

    What game are you watching? He had his man..AT THE POINT and tried to get back to cover for Petry who doing fuck-all behind the net, where NO ONE IS

  40. stevezie says:

    I thought that was more a case of the Hawks are good than the Oilers are bad. Man were they good.

  41. JohnnyRocket says:

    The Hawks look like world-beaters.

  42. russ99 says:

    russ99,

    Oh and after looking at the 10th replay on Chicago TV, Gagner was hustling to the net to try and break up the play while Smid was flopping around like a fish.

  43. fuzzy muppet says:

    SK Oiler Fan,

    yup. Petry left his brain somewhere on that shift… Oh well a pt against CHicago on the road is a good step

  44. jake70 says:

    Oilers lucky to get a point. That said, they passed up shooting again a few times to make a stupid pass.

  45. RMGS says:

    spoiler:
    Shots directed 63-34. Hawks deserved the two points.

    FOs 51-49% for us.

    Yak with 9:05 ice time, Eager 11:45.

    If Yakupov gets more EV ice time in this game, the Hawks win it in regulation.

  46. russ99 says:

    Too bad Yak didn’t bury that one.

    Overall not enough chances on goal, but that was more about the strength of the opponent than lack of effort by the Oilers.

  47. spoiler says:

    BlacqueJacque: , If it was Patrick Kane, I’d understand Petry having trouble. But Patrick Sharp isn’t that good.

    WTF? Sharp is damn good.

    Gagner should be coming down to the crease as that develops and he does but is way late, however that goal is on Petry. Got burned, cheating for a turnover.

  48. wheatnoil says:

    I’m disappointed as hell about this loss… going into the 3rd up by a goal, this team has got to be better than that.

    On the other hand, out of the 9 games on this road-trip, I picked this one as the least likely the Oilers would get a point in. So I guess it’s not the worst outcome.

    Still, they’ve got to be better than this. Regularly getting hemmed in their own zone, numerous neutral and defensive zone give-aways. Eager, Jones, Belanger looked like the best line out there for parts of the game, and that should NEVER happen if this team wants to make it to the post-season.

  49. jake70 says:

    russ99:
    russ99,

    Oh and after looking at the 10th replay on Chicago TV, Gagner was hustling to the net to try and break up the play while Smid was flopping around like a fish.

    I thought that was on Gagner as well but I didn’t see the point man Gagner was covering. He did hustle, It just seemed he waited forever to make the decision to do so.

  50. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Watching Flyers Leafs highlights. NK would be an upgrade in either net. 3rd round pick fair?

  51. BrazilianOil says:

    whats happening to Eberle ? bad last games

  52. icecastles says:

    BLACKJAQUE and LMHF#1,

    I’m not disagreeing about Petry’s massive blunder. I don’t recall ever mentioning that he was blameless, so I’m a bit confused where the vitriol is coming from.

    I guess my point is that it stood out for Petry because it was an unusually bad p[lay for Petry: he usually does better. Gagner however made no effort at all to cover the mistake when he had every opportunity to do so, and that’s par for the course with him. Not a surprise at all, since at this point in his career, we don’t even expect Gagner to make an intelligent (or any) defensive play or to cover for his teammate’s mistake. If he’s a second line centre, that is just unforgivable.

    Boo on Petry. Boo on Gagner. Boo on Chicago for being so damn good. Boo on Khabibulin for not stopping the puck. Boo on Kreuger for not having someone on the ice who in hindsight could have stopped the play. Boo on Tambellini for not getting Shea Weber for Corey Potter. Boo on Hall for being out. I think that about covers it…

  53. B S says:

    Hey, an Oilers game made the 2nd tab on the front page of nhl.com, that’s good right, and I doubt they would have gotten that if they had won. Silver Linings.

  54. fuzzy muppet says:

    spoiler,

    I thought winning faceoffs means you win the game…that what I’ve been told for the last 5 years!

  55. Lowetide says:

    I love Petry’s game and future, but you can’t tag the OT goal on anyone else. He was spent. Buddy took a hit early from Carcillo and those blue skated miles tonight.

    I’m not blaming him, mistakes happen and this is the modern NHL where you can’t reach out and grab a guy.

    But he’s the man who is shadowing Sharp. Didn’t happen.

    Ballgame.

  56. jake70 says:

    BrazilianOil:
    whats happening to Eberle ? bad last games

    Probably a shoulder…lol.

  57. icecastles says:

    russ99: Since when is is a forward’s job to clear the crease?

    When he’s the only one standing next to it and the puck is there with an opposing player.

    Tell me you were being sarcastic.

  58. wheatnoil says:

    jake70: Probably a shoulder…lol.

    Or an ankle.

  59. BlacqueJacque says:

    spoiler: WTF?Sharp is damn good.

    Gagner should be coming down to the crease as that develops and he does but is way late, however that goal is on Petry.Got burned, cheating for a turnover.

    Patrick Kane is probably the most agile skater in the NHL. Patrick Sharp is a good player.

    Remember 2 years ago when Crosby lost Spezza with three buttonhooks? That’s the difference between “top two in the league” and “good skater”.

  60. fuzzy muppet says:

    You can accept Petry getting beat, but what he does afterwards caused the goal. Just goes for a Sunday joyride behind the net…looking at the pretty leaves or something…

  61. Captain Happy says:

    russ99:
    russ99,

    Oh and after looking at the 10th replay on Chicago TV, Gagner was hustling to the net to try and break up the play while Smid was flopping around like a fish.

    Look again.

    Gagner was standing still.

    Doing nothing.

  62. icecastles says:

    BlacqueJacque: Patrick Kane is probably the most agile skater in the NHL. Patrick Sharp is a good player.

    Patrick Sharp was MVP at the 2011 All-Star game. That means he’s the best player among the best players… right? :)

  63. striatic says:

    stevezie: I thought that was more a case of the Hawks are good than the Oilers are bad. Man were they good.

    i thought the oilers weren’t “good”, exactly.

    they caught a big break with Keith falling over out of nowhere on the PP. otherwise their chances weren’t all that great.

  64. HiddenDarts says:

    I may go back to this game as the one in which the Oil became an absolutely unwatchable team. That Wild game was close, but this one was just agonizing.

    If I wanted to watch bad, dull, lifeless hockey, I’d become a Wild or Predators fan, for God’s Sake.

    Another lottery year? Maybe. But I just don’t think I can watch all these invisibles struggle through the rest of this shortened season.

    Grim at its best, just brutal at its worst; I’m starting to ache for the exciting hockey of the Reddox/Cogliano era.

    I wish I was exaggerating.

  65. spoiler says:

    Looked to me like Petry thought Sharp was going to continue toward the blue line or pass back to the D and Petry was going to jump the play for a turnover. He’s done that a lot with success this past two weeks,,, turnovers into odd man breaks. Don’t know if Sharp read that, but the reverse caught Petry leading the play the wrong way.

    But I agree with IC too. Plenty of times this season we have seen Gagner watch errors and not help, even when it is happening right in front of him. It’s concerning.

  66. russ99 says:

    BrazilianOil,

    Trying to do too much. He’s pressing big time.

    Overall I can’t criticize the kid line, since they’ve gone from the soft minutes under Renney to the tough minutes under Krueger, and they’ll be better players eventually because of it.

    Also, can’t call this a bad game for the Oil either, other than the first ten minutes of the first period. They hung with them, didn’t make too many dumb mistakes (other than that last goal), played tough, smart and fast and were a few inches away from winning it.

    They were just outclassed, especially in the defensive zone. This is exhibit A to Tambellini that we need a better defensive talent and we need a third shutdown line to be able to consistently win games like this.

  67. Clay says:

    wheatnoil:
    I’m disappointed as hell about this loss… going into the 3rd up by a goal, this team has got to be better than that.

    On the other hand, out of the 9 games on this road-trip, I picked this one as the least likely the Oilers would get a point in. So I guess it’s not the worst outcome.

    Still, they’ve got to be better than this. Regularly getting hemmed in their own zone, numerous neutral and defensive zone give-aways. Eager, Jones, Belanger looked like the best line out there for parts of the game, and that should NEVER happen if this team wants to make it to the post-season.

    It was a missed opportunity for sure, but when you consider the Oilers never spent more then 10 consecutive seconds or had three consecutive passes in the offensive zone 5v5 the entire night, you could say that the Oilers just got the most undeserved Bettman point in the history of undeservedness. I was embarrassed at how lackluster they did everything tonight.

  68. Ribs says:

    That’s not Gagner’s fault there. It would be nice if he could read the play and get in front of the net quicker, but Petry just got tired after chasing a guy and coasted behind the net well before the play was over. Live and learn…I guess.

  69. spoiler says:

    BlacqueJacque: Patrick Kane is probably the most agile skater in the NHL. Patrick Sharp is a good player.Remember 2 years ago when Crosby lost Spezza with three buttonhooks? That’s the difference between “top two in the league” and “good skater”.

    This comment makes even less sense than the last one.

  70. BlacqueJacque says:

    spoiler:
    But I agree with IC too.Plenty of times this season we have seen Gagner watch errors and not help, even when it is happening right in front of him. It’s concerning.

    I’m sorry, but I disagree here.

    Gagner had to cover his man even as Petry lost Sharp. It was Smid’s responsibility to help (which he did, but too late, IMO). As Sharp skates to the corner, he can still pass to Gagner’s man, so Gagner is still doing the right thing. Only when Sharp shoots and the rebound ends up in front of the net is Gagner free to help. Which he tries to, but of course that’s also too late.

  71. wheatnoil says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    You can accept Petry getting beat, but what he does afterwards caused the goal.Just goes for a Sunday joyride behind the net…looking at the pretty leaves or something…

    It’s the lesson of putting the puck on the net. Sharp goes past the front of the net and ends up out of scoring position. I’m guessing Petry figured he had time and could stay on his man by going around the net since he was out of scoring position. It doesn’t occur to him that Sharp can still be a threat, otherwise he might’ve gone to the front and switched Hossa’s coverage with Smid.

    Sharp doesn’t look for the extra pass though. He just puts it on net. Much like Chicago’s second goal. Smid leaves Hossa to challenge Sharp’s sharp-angle shot. Kevlar-pads Khabibulin gives up the rebound. Smid and Petry run into each other as they both scramble back to cover Hossa. I can’t put much fault on Gagner. He was doing his job covering the point and too late did he realize the 2-on-2 down low somehow turned into a 1-on-0 with Petry and Smid running into each other at the side of the net.

    Defensive Lesson: Never give up on the play and assume you’ve got time to get back in defensive position just because the guy just moved out of slot, especially if your goalie is moving.

    Offensive Lesson: Put the puck on the net, especially if you’ve got the goalie and/or the defensemen moving. Also helps if you’ve got a guy in front.

  72. BlacqueJacque says:

    spoiler: This comment makes even less sense than the last one.

    Patrick Kane is a significantly better skater than Sharp.

    ergo, it would be easier to accept that Petry got beat by one of the best in the game, rather than someone who’s just good.

  73. SK Oiler Fan says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    You can accept Petry getting beat, but what he does afterwards caused the goal.Just goes for a Sunday joyride behind the net…looking at the pretty leaves or something…

    Yah, he was beat initially, but if he just goes straight to the front of the net it’s likely an easy crease clear and possible break the other way.

  74. Wes Mantooth-11 says:

    russ99,

    When you play 4 on 4 and you D man loses his guy, the you have to bring the box in, leaving one D man open on the point.

    As a center if you D man leaves its your job to cover the front! Period! As is to support the corners.

    Hossa is in front with no one there. It becomes Gagner man.

  75. Woodguy says:

    42 percent body fat:
    would he break up 14 and 93 for the love of GOD!

    Thinking that 93 and 4 are the best bus drivers on the team, I think they should be split up.

    Some would argue that 93′s numbers without 4 are not good, and I would argue back that everyone’s numbers are worse without 4, don’t penalize him for playing with him a lot and creating such small samples otherwise.

    At 19 I think RNH is the 2nd best bus driver on this team. (yes I know he got pounded tonight, 94 is old and 14 is dead weight in Dzone)

    4 is back next game, I think you go:

    4-89-14 (they of the Chicago Massacre’s of Christmas Past, 4 drives the bus, 89 and 14 really need someone to drive)

    94/64-93-83

    I think 93 and 83 can do enough to saw off with good players.

    94 against the CHI and SJS of the world, 64 with others.

    83 can’t do it with 89 and anyone on LW.

    93 can’t do it without 4.

    83 has done it with 10 and I think 93 is better than 10 these days in the Dzone, or at least getting close.

    RK has talked about his 2 pairs of 93-14 and 83-89.

    Those are actually the worst duos of all the combinations of the top two line.

    Change em.

  76. russ99 says:

    Also, I still think dominating much lesser defensemen and goalies in the AHL probably hurt the kids more than it helped them, other than Schultz, who needed the pro-level icetime. But they had little choice in the matter, that was the organization’s decision.

  77. spoiler says:

    BlacqueJacque: I’m sorry, but I disagree here.Gagner had to cover his man even as Petry lost Sharp. It was Smid’s responsibility to help (which he did, but too late, IMO). As Sharp skates to the corner, he can still pass to Gagner’s man, so Gagner is still doing the right thing. Only when Sharp shoots and the rebound ends up in front of the net is Gagner free to help. Which he tries to, but of course that’s also too late.

    He should have begun to move, keeping himself between the puck and the Dman as Sharp passed the net and threw back the rebound. Late reading the play. Looked like he had time to get there before Hossa’s second shot, but maybe not, we’ll never know for sure. I’d like to see him read those better and as it has happened a few times before, it’s a concern.

  78. spoiler says:

    Woodguy: Thinking that 93 and 4 are the best bus drivers on the team, I think they should be split up.Some would argue that 93′s numbers without 4 are not good, and I would argue back that everyone’s numbers are worse without 4, don’t penalize him for playing with him a lot and creating such small samples otherwise.At 19 I think RNH is the 2nd best bus driver on this team. (yes I know he got pounded tonight, 94 is old and 14 is dead weight in Dzone)4 is back next game, I think you go:4-89-14 (they of the Chicago Massacre’s of Christmas Past, 4 drives the bus, 89 and 14 really need someone to drive)94/64-93-83 I think 93 and 83 can do enough to saw off with good players.94 against the CHI and SJS of the world, 64 with others.83 can’t do it with 89 and anyone on LW.93 can’t do it without 4.83 has done it with 10 and I think 93 is better than 10 these days in the Dzone, or at least getting close.RK has talked about his 2 pairs of 93-14 and 83-89.Those are actually the worst duos of all the combinations of the top two line.Change em.

    I like that a lot more than 4-89-83.

  79. bookje says:

    I don’t know if anyone noticed, but Petry’s coverage on that final goal was a little off, he looked like he was behind the net.

  80. Lowetide says:

    Krueger on Chicago: “They really are an amazingly powerful team. They’re very strong on the puck. They never let up at all”

  81. spoiler says:

    BlacqueJacque: Patrick Kane is a significantly better skater than Sharp.ergo, it would be easier to accept that Petry got beat by one of the best in the game, rather than someone who’s just good.

    You couldn’t understand how Petry got beat by someone who’s “not that good”. He’s damn good. Accept it. Hell bring in Toews and Hossa and Denis fucking Savard too. But that still doesn’t change the fact that Sharp is good enough to beat all kinds of players one on one.

  82. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    That was harder to watch than the SJ blowout by far. It looked and felt like a much worse game.

    No sustained pressure on the forecheck. No clean zone exits. Innumerable soft passes aka turnovers. No shots.

    We were damn lucky to get a point.

    There’s a lot of blame to go around… but to this bruised Oiler fan the most disappointing performer tonight was clearly 14. Everything about his game looked terrible. RNH was driving both the forecheck and backcheck on that line.

    This team is an empty suit without 4.

    This team is also one rusty nail and a stray glance away from pushing a country singing duo down the inevitable path of ruin.

  83. "Steve Smith" says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: This team is also one rusty nail and a stray glance away from pushing a country singing duo down the inevitable path of ruin.

    I actually have a rusty nail signed by Big & Rich.

  84. wheatnoil says:

    “Steve Smith”: I actually have a rusty nail signed by Big & Rich.

    Rusty Nail is both Yakupov’s country alter-ego and his porn name.

  85. Lowetide says:

    I have felt for some long time the Oilers are a country song.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-rTkqn-4qg

  86. delooper says:

    bookje:
    I don’t know if anyone noticed, but Petry’s coverage on that final goal was a little off, he looked like he was behind the net.

    I’m sure he had an awesome reason for it. Because Petry is awesome.

  87. Zelepukin says:

    Clay: It was a missed opportunity for sure, but when you consider the Oilers never spent more then 10 consecutive seconds or had three consecutive passes in the offensive zone 5v5 the entire night, you could say that the Oilers just got the most undeserved Bettman point in the history of undeservedness. I was embarrassed at how lackluster they did everything tonight.

    This. The officiating also helped us out big time. There were alot of missed calls on us in our own end, which tends to happen when you’re constantly chasing the opposition.

  88. icecastles says:

    bookje: I don’t know if anyone noticed, but Petry’s coverage on that final goal was a little off, he looked like he was behind the net.

    I never saw Whitney even try to take a man on that play. Clearly the goal is on him. You’re just making Petry the goat. You jerky jerk.

  89. icecastles says:

    Woodguy:
    …Thinking that 93 and 4 are the best bus drivers on the team…..
    …At 19 I think RNH is the 2nd best bus driver on this team…
    …4 drives the bus…

    I’m hearing you say that as long as Hall is suspended, they should bus rather than fly on their road trip.
    And that Hall should drive.
    He can switch off with RNH on the long stretches.

  90. delooper says:

    4 also has the sexiest hipchecks.

  91. spoiler says:

    That opening speech by Krueger in the second Oil Change is something else.

  92. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    “Steve Smith”: I actually have a rusty nail signed by Big & Rich.

    wheatnoil: Rusty Nail is both Yakupov’s country alter-ego and his porn name.

    You guys do weird things to your drinks. Speaking of which… “Who wants an Orange Whip?”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRp8GrXffhA

  93. bookje says:

    I was at a business dinner and missed the entire game.

    I see that the Oilers lost to the best team in the league in OT.

    Somehow I feel much better about this than those of you who watched the game.

    Glad I didn’t watch – I like feeling good.

  94. gogliano says:

    3/4 points without Hall is a nice result but it is pretty clear by now that the three #1s are a cut above the rest talent wise and RNH + Yakupov are still too young to carry this team. Looking forward to #4′s return on Thursday. Of all the many things he brings I think this team is much more watchable with him in the lineup.

    And I’d love to see historical averages of EV shooting % by team. Another game without an EV goal. Has a team ever shot below 5% on the season?

  95. Clay says:

    bookje:
    I was at a business dinner and missed the entire game.

    I see that the Oilers lost to the best team in the league in OT.

    Somehow I feel much better about this than those of you who watched the game.

    Glad I didn’t watch – I like feeling good.

    I like it. And you’re right. At the end of the road trip, we’ll all be talking about how big it was to get a point out of Chicago.

    Also, this game gives good video fodder for Krueger to use.

    “Hey boys. Wanna win a cup? Play like these guys.”

  96. spoiler says:

    bookje: I was at a business dinner and missed the entire game. I see that the Oilers lost to the best team in the league in OT.Somehow I feel much better about this than those of you who watched the game.Glad I didn’t watch – I like feeling good.

    We were the Hawks’ bitch tonight. We were ugly, they were relentless.

  97. delooper says:

    spoiler: We were the Hawks’ bitch tonight. We were ugly, they were relentless.

    That’s a little extreme. Given how much better Chicago was, it was pretty amazing the Oilers were in this game all the way to the end. Because they didn’t deserve to be.

  98. crude says:

    It was the hawks who were playing not to lose in regulation. As soon as they got that OT point you could just tell OT wouldn’t last long. They were pretending to be south paws all game, then when fear of streak busting was over, they went for it. Took 2 minutes.

  99. Minister D- says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Three Orange whips!

  100. spoiler says:

    delooper: Given how much better Chicago was, it was pretty amazing the Oilers were in this game all the way to the end. Because they didn’t deserve to be.

    That’s exactly my point. That the score didn’t reflect the play and that it WAS amazing they were in the game till the end. We got our butts kicked up and down the ice tonight.

  101. Captain Obvious says:

    stevezie: zie

    But that’s just the problem. The Oilers have had three #1 picks in a row. The goal isn’t to make the playoffs. The goal is to be a dominant team and Chicago just showed them how deep the talent is on a dominant team.

    For all the talk of how talented the Oilers are they have a stunning lack of talent on the back end. The difference between Stalberg, Frolik, Shaw, Bickell, and Kruger and the AHL drek the Oilers are carrying is stunning (Jones, Eager, Belanger, Smyth’s corpse, Petrell). The problem isn’t really that Toews is better than Hopkins or Sharp is better than Gagner. They are but on that score there is hope. The problem is the bad half of the roster is terrible and the team (and the media and fans they pander to) has shown no indication they understand the problem. It is impossible to win without three scoring lines.

    The other thing that stood out was how good the Chicago D was at holding the line, and conversely how bad the Oiler D is.

    The Oilers are so far from being a good team they might as well be in Calgary. This team requires a larger roster turnover and an intensive searching of the AHL and Europe for under appreciated talent.* We can talk all we want about lineup combinations but there are no good lineups because there aren’t nearly enough good players.

    *These players are available every year. Damien Brunner for just money, Loktionov for a fifth round pick, Cory Conacher as an undrafted free agent, Linus Omark …. There are lots of players not in the NHL who are good enough to play and lots of players in the NHL who aren’t good enough and yet have contracts because NHL teams don’t understand their own business.

    The Oilers problem is they always have the latter category (Jacques, Stortini, Moreau, Brule, the Oilers are the last stop out of the NHL) and they never find the former category and when they find one by luck they sign Lennert Petrell instead.

  102. Zelepukin says:

    I was with you until you mentioned Omark.

  103. spoiler says:

    Just finished the second Oil Change. Two highlights were the Krueger speech at the beginning of the episode, and Smid swearing in Czech and then going on a rant at everyone in the room after the loss to the last minute Canucks.

    If you like Krueger, and there’s lots to like, he’s the star of the show.

  104. Captain Obvious says:

    Zelepukin,

    You mean the guy with the most assists in the Swiss league in a single season since 1999. Yeah, the team with the worst offense in the NHL has no use that kind of players.

    Rule #1: You can never have too much talent. Never.
    Rule #2: Guys like Ben Eager and Lennert Petrell are always useless. Always.

  105. Zelepukin says:

    Captain Obvious:
    Zelepukin,

    You mean the guy with the most assists in the Swiss league in a single season since 1999.Yeah, the team with the worst offense in the NHL has no use that kind of players.

    Rule #1: You can never have too much talent.Never.
    Rule #2:Guys like Ben Eager and Lennert Petrell are always useless.Always.

    you are right, we definitely should be looking for another small forward who can light up a shittier league, on a bigger ice surface, that’s less physical, because those are the type of players who dominate in the NHL.

  106. Zelepukin says:

    Maybe we can sign a couple of the top 5 leading scorers in the AHL. That would help us right?

  107. spoiler says:

    To expect this team to be as good as the Hawks the very first 20 games that 4-93-14 are facing The Vaunt is asking a helluva lot.

    Or Van, or LA.

    This team is learning the lessons this year of how to be as good as the 6th to 10th place teams, and even that’s a process and in only 48 games will probably fall just short. Sure some trade help would be helpful as this isn’t all on the kids, but the important thing right now is to not sell the future till the present is ready. Difference-makers are going to cost a piece of the future. Maybe two pieces.

    Krueger emphasized in that episode of OC that he doesn’t want it to come easy for the team, that he wants adversity. That he wants these players to learn valuable lessons. It’s gonna take time and we have to be patient through the growing pains.

  108. BlacqueJacque says:

    spoiler: You couldn’t understand how Petry got beat by someone who’s “not that good”.He’s damn good. Accept it.Hell bring in Toews and Hossa and Denis fucking Savard too.But that still doesn’t change the fact that Sharp is good enough to beat all kinds of players one on one.

    When I said Sharp is “not that good” I was clearly referring to not as good as Kane. And it’s not that I couldn’t understand, I was disappointed. I thought Petry should have been better able to keep up with Sharp.

    So now that you’re done putting words in my mouth and setting up paper dragons for yourself to take down, is there anything else I can clarify to you?

  109. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Zelepukin: you are right, we definitely should be looking for another small forward who can light up a shittier league, on a bigger ice surface, that’s less physical, because those are the type of players who dominate in the NHL.

    Zelepukin:
    Maybe we can sign a couple of the top 5 leading scorers in the AHL. That would help us right?

    Here’s a small guy from another league, also playing on a bigger surface, who’s managed to do pretty well in the NHL:

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=96871

    That isn’t to say Omark is the key to the future or anything, but to note that you aren’t really putting forward very good arguments.

  110. DeadmanWaking says:

    I spent the whole of yesterday evening attempting to wheedle perks from my squeeze on the currency of my newly legendary superpowers. My entreaties were mainly greeted with stern dimples of dour amusement, inner prayers that this unfortunate squall would soon blow over, and precious little to enhance my belt line. But really, I was just in it for the facial expressions. Women are never so cute as when deeply conflicted.

    There I was arriving mid-afternoon trying to guess whether the conversation had gone over the fold only to find I was in the fold. Nice. I think I’ll continue my quest to translate Lowetide’s kind adjective into extra cookies for whole of the road trip.

    A day or so after my Asteroid post, I came across this TED talk:
    Esther Perel: The secret to desire in a long-term relationship. There are a few conjunctions. Perel speaks nine languages fluently according to her professional blurbs. Her words are common, yet carefully chosen. There’s a strange TEDster in the comments section disappointed that she fails to express a novel truth about human sexuality that can be summarized in two succinct sentences. Way to set the bar, dude! Man, if wishes were ponies. He’s tailor made to troll a sports blog. (But not ours!)

    [Erotic couples] also understand that foreplay is not something you do five minutes before the real thing. Foreplay pretty much starts at the end of the previous orgasm.

    I had a sudden insight that writing for me begins the moment I press “Post Comment”. I named this “The Compost Cycle”. Every fresh phrase returns to the soil. Then the other day I quickly skimmed through The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Weird little book. It consists of aphorisms, anywhere from a long paragraph to a couple of pages. Near the end, there is one titled The Magic of Keeping Going. It begins:

    When I finish a day’s work, I head up into the hills for a hike. I take a pocket tape recorder because I know that as my surface mind empties with the walk, another part of me will chime in and start talking.

    [Example of inner hiking voice] The word “leer” on page 342 … it should be “ogle”.

    I know that feeling. Recently I wrote “punitive structure” when it should have been “punitive strictures”. This popped into my head unbidden hours later. (But that piece wasn’t a red-headed step child altogether. Enough about that.) It really is the case that over the keyboard sometimes you just don’t hear the ants clearly; they knew what the word was supposed to be, and I just wrote it down wrong. I was too busy avoiding the error “putative” on the previous word.

    I guess somehow the ants and the worms work together. It’s the other half of the reason why I often find it difficult to hang around after I write. First, my inner amplifier is cranked up to squeal. Second, once the worms rise, I’m already chasing the next one.

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