OILERS AT STARS G19 (12-13) 28.2.13
Now that we’ve established Taylor Hall is not a choir boy, we can return to the subject at hand: just how long is the corner the Oilers are trying to turn? At the end of the turn lies the playoffs, series wins, heartbreak in May, a river of tears come June and ultimately the return of Stanley to the Kingdom of the Silver Mug.
If we ask ourselves “can we win with Hall as 1line LW?” and “can we win with Sam Gagner as 2line C?” I come up with 8 yes answers out of 19 starters. Not bad. The 8 should be easy to figure out, and maybe we disagree on one or two but that’s okay. If I suggest to you that in 2 years the Oilers could make the elite 8 with Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Gagner, Yakupov, Hemsky, Schultz the younger, Petry, Smid and Dubnyk (that’s 10) added to:
- a big minutes defender who can play in two of three disciplines
- a complete 3-line that can calm the waters
would that be enough? Pretty close I’d say. Third paring and 4line are things you can shore up at the deadline.
Question: is there anyone in the organization (and outside the names listed above) who will be able to fulfill these roles down the line? Say 2015?
- Klefbom, Marincin and Gernat could end up filling the #1 role (big minutes D) but we don’t know the best one and we don’t know if they’ll be a top pairing defender.
- There are plenty of candidates for #2 role–the 3line–Paajarvi, Lander, Pelss, others–but we don’t really know who it is; chances are at least one is going to be from outside the organization.
The Oilers will get better just by watching Hall and the group grow a year older, but one hopes they aim a little higher via procurement.
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Aaron Volpatti (the anti-Grace Kelly) is on waivers this morning, I was going to write something but Jonathan Willis did it quicker and better. I think the Oilers might put a claim in on him, and run him on a 4line with Belanger and Petrell/Smyth. He’s a better player than Hordichuk and ‘when everyone is healthy’ doesn’t look like it is going to happen this season.
If the club has Paajarvi among the black aces (and they did yesterday) after his performance the other night then I think we can agree this isn’t going to be his season. Damn shame.
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The COH folks are tracking zone entries, Willis has two items up here and here. This is really interesting information and worth following all season long. I’m not certain at what point we can begin to draw conclusions, but Nuge looks efficient and Gagner does not and I’m beginning to wonder if it is more than just Hall.
Important to find out with Samwise in need of a contract this summer
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Oilers are in Death Valley tonight, “The Groin” is back in Edmonton and on the IR, the Stars haven’t lost in regulation at home to the Oilers since Pronger but #4 skates for the Oildrop and that’s always a good thing. Hot:
- Sam Gagner, 18 in 18
- Ryan Smyth, 4 in the last 5
- J Schultz and Nail Yakupov: 2 points in their last 2 games
The Oilers have enough firepower to blow the other team out, and maybe tonight Taylor Hall turns Dallas into his very own shooting gallery.
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When I saw this, my first thought was “Ryan Whitney!” but there’s not much to scout and if you play the guy NHL scouts will see the troubles. That sublime passing ability is still there though, I think a team might take a chance when a few more dollars fall away from the contract.
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So. Volpatti waivers, Whitney story, Hall returns and the minefield that is Dallas. Should be fun!





Just figured it out after seeing him do it (ceremonial face-off) for a second time (slow I know). Mr Eberle is our team Captain with Horcoff out. He better show up with a hat trick.
lol @ cgy
Speaking of stupid hockey teams. Isn’t Robidas good? Oilers should try and get him.
Jones great idea up there. said it all along
I think O’Reilly is worth the money, the problem is Calgary committing so much (if they plan on qualifying him!) to a young player who has just one solid season. If I’m wrong and O’Reilly is a bum, it costs me nothing except eating some crow. If Calgary is wrong…
Good Gravy Gagner has magic hands.
SWEEET!!!!! Great start
Ok, so if ROR is getting 62 to get 55pts, what does gagner get if he gets 82 (prorated)
Dirty Deeds Gags!
Samwise wants some of the RoR money. Good on him.
Samwise. He’s no good.
42 percent body fat,
The GM’s Lebrun talked to are not overvaluing the Flames 1st:
Cam Charron: Less than a third of players (20/63) drafted between 8th-16th from 2005-2011 are playing regular NHL minutes with the team that drafted them.
Trade Sammy. His value is sky high.
Man I love how Yak passes it like it hot.
Yakupov is an absolutely underrated passer. He one-times passes so often and so cleanly. Even Eberle looked surprised. He certainly wasn’t ready.
Нинтендо⁶⁴,
ya since 2005, this draft year is compared to 2003. How many first from that draft are playing?
I think they shaved an ape and he’s got a seat at the glass behind Dubnyk.
Hey look, Jeff, look what happens when you don’t chase a skilled forward behind the net.
TheOtherJohn,
Keep naming guys, next I will ask how many of them held out for a contract.
The fact that the Oilers suck does not mean that the Flames do not suck. Col doesn’t care where the oilers finish, but they will be considering where Calgary is likely to finish.
Calgary won’t pick until the 4th round in a good draft!
Smid Petry did not chase Jager behind the net. Learning moment applied.
That line looked better with Paajarvi.
When are we going to trade that small under sized number 2 center who cant produce. Mind you selling Nuge now would be selling low.
Bad post that I disrespectfully disagree with.
So far the Oilers are up 1-0 and may have suffered a stroke.
Smarmy,
It was a joke. I wouldnt trade either center.
Ryan Jones should never play with Sam Gagner.
Kreuger looked like someone just kicked his nuts.
Then I realized I was making the same face.
not sure Jones on the same line as 89 is a good idea.
Cut his tendons with a skate, blow out a knee…
What? Wow! I saw the 4 and thought “Hall? No… Eberle? No… who IS that guy? Vande Velde?!”
BlacqueJacque,
yup, good effort and good play there, he thinks Sams job is open tonight and wants it.
I’m thinking Colorado takes the picks and then gets busted this season for running a Western Conference bounty program against ROR and the Calgary Flames.
Poor start. Something’s gotta change if they want to win this
Looks like the Gagner line is in for another long night despite the GF.
(This is not an anti-Gagner post, its pro-Magnum)
(Double-edit J Schultz is a cool dude)
Oilers are horrible. Beyond horrible. What’s beyond horrible? BEASTLY? GHASTLY?
Fistric is merciless.
I love this dman, slow as he is.
thats what we need from ebs
Oilers need to get on the PP somehow.
slightly pathetic, but true.
Schultz with a nice pinch from the blue. God, this is a horrible team.
What game are you guys watching?
That was pretty sweet.
First line to the rescue.
Amazing work along the wall by Nuge, Hall comes in for the rescue, Eberle gets the puck for a sweet pass to Schultz.
Goals like this deserve three assists.
WHAT A PASS! all created by the Nuge man-handling Eakin
Fistric own Jager twice on that shift. That’s one for the career highlight pack. Schultz Jr you beauty. My head hurts is that 2 even strength goals and two goals in one period.
Schultz with the cloaking device.
Well, no more doubts about Gagner’s knee after that rush.
That’s better. Nice shift for that whole line. RNH has great balance. He’s always on his skates. A special player. More subtle than our other No1′s.
Another reason to hate Dallas.
Douche bag fans banging the glass when the play is on the boards all goddam game.
Hall did a hell of a job on that goal throwing hits, keeping the puck in play.
how on earth did Hemsky get *that* free. jesus.
great pass ebs.
trade’em.
wow gagner has played two minutes more than everyone on the team except schlutz jr. Thats a lot and he hasnt penalty killed.
Potter with two awful giveaways that shift
not a peckham fan but he has looked better than potter. I dont care if he is a poor mans fistric he should be playing on merit. Same with MPS.
Amen. Brain Damage.
Re: balance – Contrast with Smyth in his early years….never mind still.
Still playing poorly outside of first line. Can the first line play 60?
My kids took over the TV, I am watching the Doodlebops. The good news is that they found Moe. I kind of wonder what DeeDee looks like without out the makeup.
Anyway, it sounds like I should make the effort to watch the goal on PVR.
Umm… Edmonton hasn’t had any penalties until just now.
Swing Lennart! Swing!
What can you expect from a redneck, oil rich state full of pick up trucks!
I had not noticed this, now it will bug me. Thanks, I think. I do hate me some Dallas Stars already, now I have more reason too.
Love that replay of the Petrell howitzer.
BlacqueJacque,
I know, was implying he gets his extra minutes on pk, and we hadnt had one.
http://www.insidehalton.com/community/oakvillebeaver/article/957130
Heh… now’s this for different? Sportsnet is showing Oilers-Stars on SNETW and bumping the Flames to SNET Flames…
OK nhl game feed has now adjusted his TOI down. Didnt think he was around 7 minutes allready.
Eager better pound that dirty prick Nystrom
And Potter better look at the replay and ask himself what he did wrong. Penalty or no penalty, he’s the one eating the concussion.
That hit HAS to be suspension-worthy.
You were kind of strangely quick with that link…
Fuck Dallas.
Oilers can win this game right now.
Dirty Dallas Douches.
I’m not the only one. One of the benefits of being on the road. I can watch a game instead of just highlights and hang out with the LT crowd….. …. … .. I miss my family.
Nystrom is the guy that destroyed Fedun and probably gave Potter a roster spot last year. Eric giveth and Eric nearly taketh away.
Sticks up boys! Hold em high!
Avs match? Wow. Bad Blood.
Av’s already matched ROR offer sheet
Nystrom was the same douche bag who tripped Fedun on the icing when he shattered his leg.
Typical Dallas assholes.
The ghost of Hatcher.
Assholes.
Some at the break amusement for Whiskey fans:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-21614304
Why is this funny when its whiskey, sad when it Oil?
Time for the boys to defend the dreaded 2 goal lead.
Looks like a playoff team to me, tonight.
Matched. Now Feaster just looks like that drunk fat bald desperate single guy at last call.
The ape in question was the guy behind Dubnyk, banging on the glass.
Really suprised COL matched.
I wonder what Stauffer’s ShowsRun/60 is tonight?
Anyone listening to the radio?
SUCCESS! Best possible outcome.
Colorado is forced to pay O’Reilly what they don’t want to (and arguably over market value), and Calgary doesn’t get better (while now exposing themselves to losing/overpaying a prospect like Baertschi or Backlund.)
That’s got to be an awkward reunion coming up with his team for RoR.
Good on ROR’s agent to find the one team that won’t have anyone worth offer sheeting ever.
BlacqueJacque,
Soon they will need their own Horcoffian contract; where a weak GM overpays some plug who’s fluked off a career year, with maybe a good single round playoff record to put a nice big fat shine on things.
You are a very nasty individual, well done.
He’s the worst but there are others.
If I sat next to him I’d pretend to bang on the glass with him and accidently break his hand.
I hate Dallas. the face of Dallas is Mike Keane. Ugly Mike Keane. Dumb as a post. Stupid stupid Dallas.
hate that team. Frack. Even up 2-0 I’d like to gut them.
searched IMDB, found name, searched google, found picture.
Flames are morphing slowly, like a planetary elipse into something very strongly resembling the Oilers from those halcyon times in the early 2000s.
Who knows? Maybe Oilers can oblige the Flames by giving them their 1st round playoff kick outs, much like Dallas used to do to the Oilers in the early 2000s.
they have Baertschi.
can’t think of anyone else.
Pride, ego, and don’t screw with me factors into it.
Fistric is having a good game by eye. A couple really intelligent plays to break the puck out and a couple big hits. Really nice addition.
THese things. yes. these things.
Mikael Backlund isn’t that bad.
edit: and his contract is up this season! His agent must have a phone book to cover his hard-on right now.
I’ve only been to Dallas once and plan to keep it that way. It has all the culture of a strip-mall.
how long is the 5-3? over a minute?
need to cash that and bring the hammer down.
justDOit,
Hate the Stars by all means, but leave Texas out of it.
Romulus Apotheosis,
I think about 1:00
50 seconds.
Disagree with the panel. A good coach makes adjustments at the intermission or else its 3-2 by the third.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85N_JrVqBEo
hunter1909,
Dallas is an ugly, barren, festering hole.
is there any evidence that teams who use offer sheets receive them in kind as retaliation or something?
Texas is the reason that the presidents dead.
justDOit,
I’ll always have a soft spot for almost everything Texas.
Ft. Worth is the worst. Absolute worst. Rather live in Fort Mac.
Sorry if you are bored of hearing me say this. Yak needs to be on the Ice during 5v3′s.
I just don’t get krueger sometimes. Why isn’t Yakupov the one getting that one timer play. He was made for it
justDOit,
Seriously? Are we turning this place into that kind of place?
I have lots of family in Texas & would love to visit San Antonio again for lots of reasons. Lets not let Fox news shape our views on a great place.
hunter1909,
My condolences to you. I did not say anything bad about the people, and I didn’t say anything bad about Texas – it’s actually quite a nice state.
doesnt eric cole have a face you wanna punch
They should hire Pat Quinn as TV color man.
striatic,
I don’t know, but it’s not like the Oilers have let any young guy get to RFA status since they went after Vanek.
Bar_Qu,
I said DALLAS. ?
Edit. I’ve been there, worked there briefly, and it’s a whole lotta overpasses and strip malls.
BlacqueJacque,
Gagner was RFA twice at market
Vande Velde has been noticeable for the not-wrong reasons for once.
42 percent body fat,
My bad. I thought we always extended him before.
Agreed. His best game in the show so far bye my eye
I meant Dallas the team, not the city. I have a brother in law who lives in Round Rock Texas and he loves SA, Dallas and other places.
I love the Texas music, that’s all I have for reference.
rough sequence for Fistric and Petry there
BlacqueJacque,
actual BJ I cant confirm that, I know once he was. But last year I dont remember. Is arbitration before or after july 1?
2 bad shifts in a row for 2. Looks tired
it looked like ever single Oiler got a crack at Jagr on that play.
didn’t work out so hot in the end.
Lowetide,
I didn’t say anything bad about the people, or Texas. The city of Dallas, considering is size, offers very little in the way of culture, architecture or art. Highways, strip malls and over passes. Maybe that their thing, but it sure the hell isn’t mine.
In fact, I talked to a nice woman on the train while I was down there, and she asked my why the hell I would pick Dallas to visit.
Fk belanger, you don’t have hands for a move, just shoot ffs
What happened to Belanger? It can’t just be because he got old.
this is what i mean.
i’m not sure Calgary had much to risk with the offer sheet, other that the risk it might work.
42 percent body fat,
After. Arbitration becomes an option once a player achieves RFA status, ie, once his contract expires (July 1). He can’t be offered anything or go to arbitration until then.
interesting D pair on the kill. 19 & 45
No Belanger in the shoot-out tonight.
See Jones get beat by Jagr off the wall?!! What’s HIS excuse!!!?!?
i do hate it when the penalty killer shoots, puck comes back the other way off the boards and you see a 3 on 2 coming back.
nice fucking dive. I fucking hate Dallas!!!!!!!!
BlacqueJacque,
so ya samwise has been an open market RFA twice than,
Tthat call was total Garbutt.
You could call that penalty on any team playing the Oilers 10 times per game. What a joke.
can we have Jagr next year?
please?
per @dantencer, Potter out with a head injury after the Nystrom hit.
the bastard.
Potter’s out the rest of the game. Head injury
Only Smid could get concussed from someone’s ass.
I bet Smid could get concussed from his own ass somehow.
It would be just like Ladi to get concussed by someones ass, I thought he’d grown past these kinds of injuries.
Edit: Goddamnit
Brendan Morrow’s ass 1, Smid’s nose 0
Smid gets a head injury now…great. Hope he’s OK
Smid’s tough as hell. He’ll scare a concussion away.
Jagr and Selanne are like to great old ships from hockey’s golden age. We are lucky to still get to seem them play even for hated other teams.
Four defencemen, 28 minutes to go.
hopefully Smid only lost his remaining 3 teeth.
who goes back to play D? Vande Velde and petrell?
Butt check! Did he put on the foil before the game?
Now we’re screwed. No Potter and no Smid… can we hold on with 4 defensemen? Which forward would make the switch? Too bad no Paajarvi, this would be the perfect time to try that theory out…
Just imagine, the rest of the road trip could have Whitney-Peckham going for 12-15 minutes per game.
Jones is the straw.
So why isn’t Morrow ejected from the game? That’s a hit to the head. Or is okay to assault people’s heads with your ass?
I wasn’t pointing out anyone specifically, just making my original point clear. For all I know Dallas isn’t a nice city. Never been there.
Good thing we are carrying 8 D. We are only going to ice 4 for the rest of the night by the looks of it.
petrell good hit on OLEKSIAK
Ben Eager making his physical contribution to the game.
And the Dumb Ben Eager shows his head….dumb, dumb, dumb
well that was stupid Eager.
Belanger and Gagner are going to lose a year off their life with all this ice time
Love Texas, hate Dallas. Spent a few days there, days I wish I had spent in Austin or San Antonio instead.
Though Nashville still wins my worst North American city to visit hands down. Unless you like that country stuff, of course.
Down to 4 d and Eager puts them on the pk. Dumb This isn’t going to end well
that was absolutely useless.
I have no idea why the captain of the Dallas Stars doesn’t want to engage Ben Eager.
He probably doesn’t drink in Rosedale.
Dumb penalty from Eager with a 2 goal lead and no D. If you are going to take one you better send a message not give a hug.
This has been Nick Schultz best game this season by my eye.
russ99,
Austin is awesome. Houston would be cool if human beings could breathe there.
You should be allowed to punch Morrow in the face without fear of penalty. Bad call refs.
phew.
justDOit,
Lowetide,
Its all good, but I just felt like the discussion was moving from the team to the place. I hate when that happens. I have yet to go to a place and meet good people everywhere.
And there’s nothing better than getting a good rivalry/hate-on with opposing fans. Its what has made Italy great (from the Medici’s on in).
Jamie Benn is a very unattractive man. Good thing he’s pretty good at hockey.
19 is a regular on the kill tonight. Hopefully it means he’s right again. He’s been skating like he’s hurt the past couple weeks.
#40!
Doobie!
5 on 3 ! Yay!
Love the guy with the OKC gear behind the Stars bench.
even dumber play by Daley
Take your time RK and think 64!
AGAIN no 64. You’re killing me Kreuger
This situation calls for Nail Yakupov.
Probably my bad, stupid stupid Dallas isn’t very nice. Should have added “Stars.”
Ralph hates scoring goals and winning hockey games. Not as much as Tambillini though.
why is yakupov benched
5 on 3 he needs to be on
I really question Freddy on why he doesn’t put Yak on the first PP. Especially on 5-3
Krueger could have put this game away but didn’t use Yakupov on either 5 on 3 that I saw. Bad decision imo.
Shutout on two 5 on 3′s, heading into the third period with a 2 goal lead. HAH, I’m completely mystified as to what comes next.
Gagner. He’s no good.
Good on Sam.
not sure i like the 2 down low set up on the 5v3.
even more than the lack of Yak, i think it hurts the Oilers set up.
Good ol Sammy!
More and more, I’m disliking RK’s deployment of the troops.
Some one call the guy in the Baron’s jersey behind the bench and ask him to smack RK in the back on the head and say Yak. Samwise is a goon.
nice elbow. fuck Dallass
Pp letting them down again. Way too casual, not hard on the puck, not enough traffic, no clear shots. 3rd is going to be hell. Even up calls upcoming
I know nobody likes fighting any more but I Sammy…. :swoon:
just needs the assist.
Captain material.
I guess the plan on the 5-3 is to pass behind the net and never shoot, right?
Perfect game a nice lovely 2-0 lead so everyone can relax, right?
Right?
i now long for the tall Dman with a giant twig that can Happy Gilmore a point shot.
funny how Gagner undid his chinstrap but didn’t take off his helmet when Dillon removed his own.