LITTLE DID HE KNOW….

Last night’s victory leaves Edmonton solidly in playoff contention (21.6% chance of making the post-season) and that won’t change between now and the deadline Wednesday aft. I believe the Oilers should be buyers.

In reaching this point in the rebuild, the Oilers have some options for the first time in years. They could offload, which has become second nature by now, and continue the talent bleed that has included Dustin Penner, Tom Gilbert, Lubo and others since the Katz rebuild began around 2010 Jan. They could add help, not just for the stretch run but for next season and possibly beyond, giving Steve Tambellini fewer chores in summer and giving the organization a better chance to succeed during a vital off-season.

LET’S STAY TOGETHER

  1. Ladislav Smid: Oilers and Smid are reportedly in talks as we speak, this is an important deal for all kinds of reasons. Keeping Smid is extremely important because Edmonton has little depth on the blueline, but keeping him at a reasonable price is also a big item. Steve Tambellini will need to get this contract at a friendly number, and he needs it this week.
  2. Ales Hemsky: I’ve come to the conclusion Hemsky’s cross to bear is being overlooked as a great player during his career. That known, I don’t think the Oilers will get close to value for him–which is fabulous, meaning he stays.
  3. Sam Gagner: Haven’t really heard his name, but with the need for centermen at the deadline he might be in play. That would be a mistake.

SAIL ON, SAILOR

  1. Ryan Whitney: I think the Oilers may decide to keep him, but the return for veteran D is so large this deadline they should pull the trigger.
  2. Mark Fistric: With D values high, this is the guy to move.
  3. Ryan Jones:  Teemu Hartikainen won’t clear waivers next year, and Jones will want at least as much as he’s making now. This is the prudent time to deal him.
  4. Nikolai Khabibulin: I don’t know if there’s a market, but if there is trading NK at the deadline is a no-brainer.
  5. Ben Eager: Minimal value, included on the list because he was mentioned in a Jokinen deal this week.
  6. Eric Belanger: injured, unlikely to go.
  7. Theo Peckham: he hasn’t played in so long can’t imagine a team trading much for him.

ARRIVALS

  1. Mark Streit: If he’s available, and that is not certain, Edmonton is likely to push hard for his services. Short term move, but they could sign him before July 1 if things work out well.
  2. Ben Bishop: Why not? Oilers would have two solid goaltenders approaching their prime heading into next season. That’s the kind of long term thinking championship teams employ.
  3. Frans Nielson: Incredibly, he is apparently available. Nielson would be a perfect fit for the Oilers and improve them up the middle in a big way.
  4. Curtis Glencross: Making right an earlier wrong may only take a draft pick.

These are not only short term moves, but could benefit the Oilers next year too. Glencross has another year on his deal, Nielson is signed long term. Bishop is rfa this summer and Streit is a guy the Oilers have mentioned in the past and there’s no reason he couldn’t be signed.

The Oilers CAN address need at the deadline and reduce their laundry list of things to do this summer. I know it seems early to be trading draft picks and prospects for immediate help, but when that immediate help hangs around for next year and beyond, it seems reasonable to spend some of the future.

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  1. hunter1909 says:

    Happy Easter.

    I’ve been calculating(in my own way) the chances of the team making the playoffs.

    I subtract the top 2 teams because they’re automatically in.
    I subtract the bottom 2 teams because they’re as good as out.

    Then we have an 11 team race, for 6 playoff spots. Given that the top 3 cannot have more than 1 total (3-11-1) collapse, this leaves the rest.

    Subtracting the top 3 we now have 8 teams fighting over 5 spots. I calculate that the top 3 teams(the ones in today) cannot have more than 2 teams total(3-11-1) collapse.

    Therefore, out of the playoff teams on Easter Sunday 2013, between 1 and 3 stand the chance of not making the playoffs.

    What we are now left with, is Oilers and 4 other teams;from last night’s and the last few games, we can assume they can out race all of them in the 15 game sprint to the wire.

    Maybe 0 of the current playoff teams go under, and all that, but in essentially what’s come down to a 15 game season that opens with Oiler’s entertaining their new girlfriends the flames, Ralphie’s got the thing broken down into 5×3 game segments.

    Oilers win 4 points on average from each, and they should make it.

  2. Ray says:

    Nielsons available? If that’s true sign me up! Would be one of the best 3C’s we could hope for.

  3. Halfwise says:

    I just hope that Oiler management has outgrown its recent role of Accidental Organ Donor.

    Picks are undervalued at this time of year, and roster players are overvalued, so move the marginal roster players for picks. Then at draft time, when picks are overvalued, trade picks for roster players.

    That might be a bit simplistic, in real life, if we have to factor in the reality that some of these guys have taken 30 games to figure out what RK wants of them and it is starting to work. Their replacements will be lower on the learning curve. So my bottom line would be to limit the amount of turnover to three players, maximum. Whitney, NK and the notional Eager for Jokinen deal would be my to-do list.

    BTW liked RK on After Hours last night. He is familiar with playing the long game, while a lot of us posters are in dire need of some Ritalin.

  4. GordM says:

    Really enjoyed Krueger on after hours last night…I can see why he was promoted to the role and I hope he is the last Oiler coach for a while as that will be a good sign. The picture Jay Onrait posted right afterwards was fantastic:

    http://instagram.com/p/XgrRR7TJWW/

    Role reversal for Edmonton and Calgary this year. Normally it was us saying goodbye to talent near the deadline trying to be the ones screwing up their chances at the post season (and taking silver-linings in losses that it will further improve draft position).

  5. Lowetide says:

    Ray:
    Nielsons available? If that’s true sign me up! Would be one of the best 3C’s we could hope for.

    Read it a couple of places this morning, Yandle also possibly available.

  6. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    last night was pretty damn fun.

    It was interesting watching the HNIC team continue to talk about the nucks and find themselves slowly by the end of the night, almost as an afterthought, noting how great a game EDM played.

    Thats shows we are still a long way — if you rate things only by media consciousness, or take it as a measure at any rate.

    The refing was pretty bad last night by eye. I think the Oil got snowed. Still hard to complain after a win like that.

    RK was great in after hours. Kelly was supremely impressed for whatever that is worth. it was cool that he gave his kids props and had his championship waterskiing daughter there.

    he sounds like a bavarian… is that where his family is from? distinct german accent: see Herzog.

    The Jam… great band. “That’s Entertainment” is clearly their best song… pared down, straight forward, great rhythm on the acoustic… nice choice.

    happy easter everyone… unless you’re orthodox, or not christian… then happy secular easter! have a chocolate bunny.

    ps. i’ve got my flames hatred brewing… can’t wait for the next game.

  7. hunter1909 says:

    Romulus: I saw them start the game fawning over the glorious Canucks, then by midway through the game they were all over the Oilers, then by the end they were totally ignoring the Canucks and fawning and grovelling to their latest cool team to drive the Flame’s fans crazy with.

  8. speeds says:

    We have heard a bit about playing meaningful games down the stretch. Is it more important for the long term future of the team (not to mention the present) to have Hartikainen to play those meaningful games, or Jones?

    For that matter, what will be management’s attitude be with regard to Lander? They’ve been seemingly pretty confident in him as a prospect for awhile, they could use a C – any chance they think he’s a better option at C than an out of position Smyth? Do they look at recalling him now? From management’s POV, do you get more, as an organization looking both long term and at the present, out of:

    Jones-Horcoff-Yakupov
    Petrell-Smyth-Brown

    or

    Hartikainen-Horcoff-Yakupov
    Smyth-Lander-Brown

  9. steveb12344 says:

    hunter1909: Romulus: I saw them start the game fawning over the glorious Canucks, then by midway through the game they were all over the Oilers, then by the end they were totally ignoring the Canucks and fawning and grovelling to their latest cool team to drive the Flame’s fans crazy with.

    Kind of like the Soviet leaders in Rocky IV

    :)

  10. Gret99zky says:

    Would you trade this year’s first pick for help now?

  11. Beaker says:

    What type of pick(s) gets glencross? this seems like a no brainer

  12. eastcoastoil says:

    Morning LT,
    How much do you think we could get for our bottom d. Is Nick Schultz out there?
    If you trade Nick do you think they bring in Jay Bow or Streit?

    How much work is all this for Tambi, is it realistic?

  13. sumaclab says:

    If the Oilers lock themselves into 8 th place they’ll havethe pleasure of the Hawks. Wouldn’t that be fun? Hawks are a good team but the Oilers can dial them in when motivated. If that were the scenario I would trade Whitney before I traded Fistric. I would rather have a dman who plays heavy on the body than one who does not. If anything I would like to get another dman who is a little more physical so that I could match him up against Hossa.

    My thought is that if we are buyers and think that 8th is realistic then we should prepare our team like it we were playing Chicago ina 7 game series. We have shown that we need some size on the wing. Jones for Penner? Its his time of the year. I would love to see Glenncross in an Oiler uniform. A pick? I fear not. More likely a prospect like Musil or Simpson.I still would do it but Calgary/ edmonton trades are so rare that its like winning Lotto 649.

    Belanger. Stauffer “6-1-4″ when Belanger is not in the lineup. Ouch. IR. NO goals this year. No way he moves. He is a buyout this summer.
    Eager? Who? Buyout number 2 this summer.
    Jones. I would take that pick.
    NK? Someone ? Anyone?

    My thought as far as getting value at the trade deadline is to trade Nick Shultz. What would Minnesota pay to get him back on their blueline for a playoff run? Or if Boston is still kicking tires how about Boychuck and a first for Shultz. I think you need to decide sooner of later when you are going to trade this player. Petry,J Shultz, Smid, Whitney(less money), Klefbom and Tuebert/Fistric look to be what the Oilers defence might look like next year. Get value for N Shultz now. He is a solid 4. Lots of teams looking for that kinda guy. If its me he has the most value and thus I would trade him for something that helps me shortterm and longterm.

  14. speeds says:

    Gret99zky:
    Would you trade this year’s first pick for help now?

    Definitely not. Well, any player or pick can be moved in the right deal, but given the players that can reasonably be expected to be available, no, they shouldn’t.

  15. Rondo says:

    LT,

    Do you think Anaheim would be interested in trading Peter Holland to the Oilers for ?

  16. eastcoastoil says:

    speeds,

    Too many centers available in the draft to walk away from that pick, playoff run against Chicago is great but we are not ready for the deep run yet.

  17. PerryK says:

    speeds:

    Jones-Horcoff-Yakupov
    Petrell-Smyth-Brown

    or

    Hartikainen-Horcoff-Yakupov
    Smyth-Lander-Brown

    Okay Speeds, you must use “~” to indicate when you are being rhetorical!

  18. sumaclab says:

    speeds,

    Jones for a pick. Lander in OKC until the year ends. Same with Teemu. Lander 3 goals and 3 assists last night. Let him continue to flourish and gain confidence. There has to be some consideration also given to OKC. We need to ensure they are winning too. You want the other other kids in OKC getting a taste of meaningful games down the AHL stretch.

    Glenncross. Considering its Easter and Monday OUR LORD Jesus rose from the dead I might perhaps have some faith that the Oilers and Edmonton could work out a deal for Glenncross. Miracles happen. Under the heading of righting a wrong. If Tambo could pull that trade off it would almost equal the Ryan Smyth return. It might make the fans more likely to forgive Tambo’s other mistakes.Cough Belanger Cough Eager.

  19. Lowetide says:

    Gret99zky:
    Would you trade this year’s first pick for help now?

    No. Oilers aren’t at that point, and the pick could be Seth Jones or MacKinnon or that Giant Finn.

  20. Lowetide says:

    Beaker:
    What type of pick(s) gets glencross? this seems like a no brainer

    I’d go as high as 2nd, maybe throw something else in.

  21. Lowetide says:

    eastcoastoil:
    Morning LT,
    How much do you think we could get for our bottom d. Is Nick Schultz out there?
    If you trade Nick do you think they bring in Jay Bow or Streit?

    How much work is all this for Tambi, is it realistic?

    I think you trade either N Schultz or Whitney but not both. N Schultz is slowing but he’s still intact.

  22. Beaker says:

    Lowetide,

    Yep, even like a second and a conditional 5th or 6th or something if we make the playoffs? Or a Plante if Calgary is dumb enough to take someone like that.

  23. Woodguy says:

    speeds:
    We have heard a bit about playing meaningful games down the stretch.Is it more important for the long term future of the team (not to mention the present) to have Hartikainen to play those meaningful games, or Jones?

    For that matter, what will be management’s attitude be with regard to Lander? They’ve been seemingly pretty confident in him as a prospect for awhile, they could use a C – any chance they think he’s a better option at C than an out of position Smyth?Do they look at recalling him now? From management’s POV, do you get more, as an organization looking both long term and at the present, out of:

    Jones-Horcoff-Yakupov
    Petrell-Smyth-Brown

    or

    Hartikainen-Horcoff-Yakupov
    Smyth-Lander-Brown

    That’s exactly what I was going to post.

    Whitney has also been in positive corsi territory in 3 of the last 4 games.

    I think RK is giving him the proper ice time now (not with J.Shultz playing anything near tough)

    Given the Shero inflated market I dish every D who won’t be here next year.

    I don’t think the Oilers miss a beat.

    They might miss Whitney a bit, to my eye he’s been making the good first pass from which all good things possession wise spring.

    I dump Jones and insert Harski. For some reason Harski doesn’t have RK’s confidence more than Jones. You could see that in the way they were deployed when on the roster together.

  24. eastcoastoil says:

    I don’t know if you would not Glenncross. Wouldn’t he be taking MPS or Harti’s spot for a couple of years. Penner is a bit more money, but its money thats not there next year.
    Which spot are you looking to fill. The 2nd, 3rd or 4th LW?
    You have MPS, Harti and Smyth. I would prefer to get a center so smyth does not have to play there anymore.
    Neilson is barking up the right tree not Glenncross….

  25. Beaker says:

    eastcoastoil,

    Depth? Depth? You are poo pooing depth? Frans Nielson isnt avaliable, that stuff is too good to be true. Glencross would be nice, are there other nicer players you could get? Sure but if a 2nd rounder is the asking price then it just makes sense.

  26. Lowetide says:

    Glencross helps the LW depth chart imo, with Hall-Paajarvi-Glencross matching Eberle-Hemsky-Yakupov. Throw in Nuge, Gagner and Horcoff and that’s a top 9 that has some nice things.

    Hartikainen makes the team and can move up the depth chart as needed. There are no negatives I can see from acquiring Glencross–save the pricetag.

  27. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide: Read it a couple of places this morning, Yandle also possibly available.

    Yandle would cost a ton.

    He’s also a 3rd pairing killer and PP1 guy.

    With all the rookies coming in the Dcorps (J.Shultz, Klef) they don’t need a vet in that position, especially one that costs a top 6 F.

    They need a Streit type, although the man is apparently showing his age this year. (35)

    If he’s available for a rental and you can dump Whitney for a similar price I think you do it.

    Smid-Petry
    Streit-J.Shultz
    N.Shultz-Potter

    I like Nielsen too, I can’t believe he’s available though.

    I read he was on CHI’s wish list (along with Streit) and the asking price was two good prospects.

    I find that tough to believe with Nielsen under contract for 3 more years.

    NYI isn’t deep at C. I can’t see that happening.

  28. jimbones100 says:

    I know it seems early to be trading draft picks and prospects for immediate help, but when that immediate help hangs around for next year and beyond, it seems reasonable to spend some of the future.

    LT can you please list our top prospects (the prospects other teams will want in return) and which ones you would make available.

  29. Jonathan Willis says:

    Great movie.

    I’d say more but I left my thimbles and socialist reading material at home.

  30. Chris says:

    Letting Glencross walk was one of the most boneheaded decisions the Oilers have made in recent memory. Reaquiring him if it doesn’t cost more than a second would be a good move. Generally speaking I would think that with Iginla having left there are quite a few Flames whom would happily change scenery to join a playoff run.

  31. steveb12344 says:

    Chris: Letting Glencross walk was one of the most boneheaded decisions the Oilers have made in recent memory. Reaquiring him if it doesn’t cost more than a second would be a good move. Generally speaking I would think that with Iginla having left there are quite a few Flames whom would happily change scenery to join a playoff run.

    If they are going to get GlenX,( or in the spirit of Easter Glent) let’s hope it happens BEFORE the next game.

  32. Beaker says:

    Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 46m
    Having been asked, I asked a source about Nielsen rumors: “No chance they trade Frans.” There you have it. #Isles
    Retweeted by Kukla’s Korner

  33. Woodguy says:

    I guess Bill Watters doesn’t qualify as media anymore as I don’t think anyone is employing him full time, but I had to share this tweet.

    Bill Watters ‏@RealBillWatters
    4 teams @35 pts(DAl,EDM,NSH,CBJ) within a pt of 8yh pl STL(36) in WEST.if Khabibulin stays healthy Oilers could get in.CBJ has been hottest.

    Next time you defer to a someone because they are a media member (not that many do here) , just remember this gem.

  34. copperblueandwhite says:

    Lowetide,

    LT: I doubt Jones MacKinnon, Droiun or Barkov will be available for the Oilers but I agree this pick is a keeper….Nikita Zadorov of the London Knights will probably still be availabe and could be a franchise D man at 6’5″ 230 lbs already at 17.

  35. vishcosity says:

    I want a database that can search player’s birthdays with statistics. I want s a column where I can limit the list to players born from 1986 – 1992, or the month of March, or whatever, then see what they’re doing over the last 7 days, or 30, or last season.

    Anyone know of a means to limit defensemen by DOB then view their current situational statistics?

  36. BlacqueJacque says:

    I want the Oilers to be buyers, but with so many teams still in contention for a playoff spot and so few selling, prices are going to be sky high. I don’t know, say, that I’d give up two second rounders for a Murray type.

  37. eastcoastoil says:

    Beaker,

    I am more worried about our depth by getting Glenncross

    Hall-Nuge-Ebs
    MPS-Gagner-Hemsky
    XXX-Horcoff-Yak
    Smyth-XXX-Brown

    Who looks better in two years, Harti(home grown) or Glenncross. Glenncross is cheap and a much better player than Harti now.

    Im just saying that the forth line center that you don’t have is more important than the third line winger that you might have.

    Im just saying that Penner might be a better fit at a much cheeper price for a shorter term with much more playoff experience
    Im just saying that this is Tambo we are talking about and three days to go

  38. TheOtherJohn says:

    Would trade a pick to Phx to get Boyd Gordon. UFA in June. Would be perfect on this team. Perfect. Young enough to be here when we are playing meaningful 3-4 series playoffs. Little offense but one of the five or ten best defensive C in league and is in a handful of best face-off guys (58.5) in NHL. Did a 16-4 against Chicago last year in playoff.

  39. eastcoastoil says:

    Anyone think Toronto comes asking about NK?
    Sounds like the price is pretty steep for Kippy and Lou

  40. BALLSYHALLSY says:

    Happy Easter LT! Quick ?

    Do you think the Flames would even be open 2 a trade with the Oilers? If history shows us anything it’s that EDM and CGY deals almost never happen.

  41. pboy says:

    I wonder about the availability of a guy like Mark Streit? The Islanders are challenging for that 8th spot in the East and between the extra 2 games of gate revenue for Charles Wang, the fact that they could take that spot away from the Rangers and Vis got re-signed to help them win, I don’t think he’s available. However, Garth Snow.

  42. BALLSYHALLSY says:

    pboy,

    Agreed!

  43. FPB94 says:

    copperblueandwhite:
    Lowetide,

    LT: I doubt Jones MacKinnon, Droiun or Barkov will be available for the Oilers but I agree this pick is a keeper….Nikita Zadorov of the London Knights will probably still be availabe and could be a franchise D man at 6’5″ 230 lbs already at 17.

    I’d draft one the 6”5-6”4 forwards before; Zedorov hasn’t been producing all that much and it’s rare to see an uptick from draft year to the Pros.

  44. Thiru says:

    RK was impressive as hell on After Hours.

    Motivational speaker, author, and member of the World Economic Forum’s Leadership Council. I had no idea.

    What an interesting guy to have as an NHL coach.

    Because he rarely gets any credit for anything — nice hire, Tambo.

  45. Lowetide says:

    Beaker:
    Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 46m
    Having been asked, I asked a source about Nielsen rumors: “No chance they trade Frans.” There you have it. #IslesRetweeted by Kukla’s Korner

    I don’t know, Sassone is a pretty good source.
    http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20130330/sports/703309860/?interstitial=1

    sometimes teams deny reports on these things, as a for instance if you connect the dots Ales Hemsky may have been a target for Boston earlier in the week.

  46. FPB94 says:

    I think this prospect should be in the top 5, yet he’s stuck in the 15′s for some reason.

    (I believe you liked him LT)

    Anthony Mantha 6”4 200 LBS 50 G 39 A 89 PTS in 67 GP

    The guy is simply huge, and scored 50 goals for a very average Val D’or club (6th) right now he’s leading in club with 9 points in 5 playoff games. He’s exactly what this Oiler offense needs, a goalscorer with weight (well every team does) and he’ll be available late for some reason. Take the man!

  47. Lowetide says:

    FB94: I like him plenty, would love to see the Oilers pick him. suspect they’ll take Lazar, though.

  48. FPB94 says:

    This draft is simply stacked; until Curtis Lazar all the prospects look good on paper. Much ressembling the 2003 draft stats-wise, where you could pull guys with 70-80 points in the late picks of the first round.

    Sad is me; Lazar is the only surefire bust to my eyes. I also like Nicolas Petan of Portland.

  49. Thiru says:

    Under Sather, whenever the Oilers were in the position that they’re in today, he always looked to add rather than subtract. I think that’s the mentality that Tambo should have now.

    I think the items should be:
    a) Sign Smid
    b) Add another Dman

    I don’t think either Fistric or Whitney should be sent out. If the return is a second rounder, so what? The chances of a second rounder panning out are around 20-25%. Our chances at the playoffs are 21%, and they likely go down if either of those guys are moved and a guy like Peckham slides in.

    6 helps on the PP, and special teams will be important the next few weeks.

  50. Lowetide says:

    FPB94:
    This draft is simply stacked; until Curtis Lazar all the prospects look good on paper. Much ressembling the 2003 draft stats-wise, where you could pull guys with 70-80 points in the late picks of the first round.

    Sad is me; Lazar is the only surefire bust to my eyes. I also like Nicolas Petan.

    Lazar has a lot of nice things, his strange assist total is the only weird item. I’m not sure he’s a bust, but one can certainly make the case that passing ability might be an issue–although he’s a pretty good passer/pass catcher to my eye.

  51. FPB94 says:

    Lowetide,

    Well not necessarily a bust per say, just that with 1st rounders I like when team go for home runs and his stats suggest he can’t get there (or that the odds are awfully low).

    He looks a lot like Michael Grabner right now. He’s got a low point total, but scores goals. I guess that depends how you like Grabner (Say he falls in the 20′s or so picking him wouldN’t be terrible, but if they have a shot at an elite guy like Mantha i’d be sad.)

  52. jonrmcleod says:

    Lowetide,

    I think there are a few factors that make acquiring Glencross unlikely: (1) the reluctance of the Oilers to trade a 2nd round pick; (2) the Flames reluctance to trade with Edmonton; (3) I think Glencross has a NMC. Would he want to go to Edmonton or another team that is more likely to make the playoffs?

  53. Lowetide says:

    Thiru:
    Under Sather, whenever the Oilers were in the position that they’re in today, he always looked to add rather than subtract. I think that’s the mentality that Tambo should have now.

    I think the items should be:
    a) Sign Smid
    b) Add another Dman

    I don’t think either Fistric or Whitney should be sent out. If the return is a second rounder, so what? The chances of a second rounder panning out are around 20-25%. Our chances at the playoffs are 21%, and they likely go down if either of those guys are moved and a guy like Peckham slides in.

    6 helps on the PP, and special teams will be important the next few weeks.

    2nd rounder might be a more attractive asset to a team like Calgary than Whitney. So, you shift whitney for a pick, send that pick to Calgary as part of the Glencross deal.

  54. jonrmcleod says:

    copperblueandwhite,

    I only saw Zadarov play once (the Top Prospects Game), but I liked what I saw.

  55. TheOtherJohn says:

    In fact I’d trade Lander or Rajala and a conditional pick for B Gordon. The condition would on Gordon resigning in Edmonton

    Gordon is what we hope Lander becomes

  56. Bos8 says:

    Never go as high as the highs or as low as the lows. I’m just chillin on Paajarvi and Lander. Oh yeah! It’s only one game for Lander but a nice indicator, especially after down 0-2.

  57. speeds says:

    pboy:
    I wonder about the availability of a guy like Mark Streit? The Islanders are challenging for that 8th spot in the East and between the extra 2 games of gate revenue for Charles Wang, the fact that they could take that spot away from the Rangers and Vis got re-signed to help them win, I don’t think he’s available. However, Garth Snow.

    What’s with ripping on Garth Snow? I’m not necessarily a huge fan of how they’ve drafted in the first round since the 2009 draft (and it’s too early to make the call on a lot of those guys), but other than that hasn’t he done a pretty good job? Too often I think he gets saddled with the Isles baggage from years ago.

    His team is in 9th (tied for 8th with NYR but played more games) in the East, and he has to go with one of the lowest budgets in the NHL. His team is 17 mil below the cap, 29 mil if you count the Thomas cap hit, Dipietro in the minors, and Yashin’s buyout. How easy can that be?

    If NYI is moving Streit, they must have their reasons. It’s probably that they’d think he’s trending downwards and the return on moving him is too large to ignore. Not sure they’ll do it in a playoff race, but Snow might be the kind of GM that, if he gets good value, makes that move.

    The D market is so weak this year that Streit is likely to get paid more than he’s worth, and on a longer term than you’d like for a 35+ player. I’ve been an advocate of bringing in Streit, and I still am to some extent in the summer, but you can’t pay him too much for too long, and I think he’ll cost too much for too long.

  58. Lowetide says:

    Jonathan: Remains one of my favorite movies, watch it a couple of times a year.

  59. rickithebear says:

    Who do you think is the flames next captain?
    have listened to 960 for 8 years.

    My bet Glencross!

  60. Woodguy says:

    vishcosity:
    I want a database that can search player’s birthdays with statistics.I want s a column where I can limit the list to players born from 1986 – 1992, or the month of March, or whatever, then see what they’re doing over the last 7 days, or 30, or last season.

    Anyone know of a means to limit defensemen by DOB then view their current situational statistics?

    I have no idea if it works with birth dates but http://www.hockey-reference.com/ is one of the best for compiling data using different parameters.

  61. ashley says:

    Thiru:
    Under Sather, whenever the Oilers were in the position that they’re in today, he always looked to add rather than subtract. I think that’s the mentality that Tambo should have now.

    But that was an era that saw 16 out of 21 teams make the playoffs, and only 2 points awarded per game. The chances of making it largely depended on how far out of it LA or Vancouver was in the 5 team Smythe.

    It’s more of a crapshoot now. The odds are against the Oilers making it. I wouldn’t bet on it, and I would still consider selling, but I can’t see how you can do that to your fanbase after reeling off 3 straight wins.

    Nonetheless, it’s great to see the team winning. Interestingly, the consensus before the season was that the shortened season might help the Oilers make it with a bit of luck. It looks like just the opposite will be true though. These kids are starting to figure this thing out, and a longer season would have given them more games to hone their excellence.

    They’re going to have to run the table to make it. No more than 3 no point games, and no more than 3 OTL’s or thereabouts.

  62. dessert1111 says:

    Trade: Whitney, Khabby, one of Fistric or Peckham. Petrell, Belanger and Eager if you can, but I doubt it.

    Resign Smid, obviously. Resign Jones if you think there’s a spot for him next year at a reasonable dollar amount. I don’t think he’s a necessary piece going forward but I also don’t think he wouldn’t be among the top 14 forwards next year.

    If you’re going to deal N Schultz or Hemsky — and I think you should deal N Schultz — isn’t the summer a better time? I like Hemsky but I like a top 4 D on this team more. Can he help get you that?

    Need a top 6 winger who wings puck battles (could be Paajarvi!), another centre, a top pairing/top 4 LH D man, a backup goalie, and ideally another D man and/or another bottom 6 winger. Not close enough to be big buyers. Only sell what you don’t want to resign, and presumably what you don’t want to resign won’t be crucial to a playoff run anyway. Is Fedun ready for a cup of coffee? Sounds like he’s been good lately. A big drop off from Whitney/Potter/Fistric?

  63. Gret99zky says:

    dessert1111:
    Trade: Whitney, Khabby, one of Fistric or Peckham. Petrell, Belanger and Eager if you can, but I doubt it.

    Resign Smid.

    Agreed. Only I would rather keep Petrell and trade Jones. Kind of a sawoff and Jones’ flow gets more in a trade. ;)

  64. speeds says:

    That answers half of it:

    Oilers recall Lander

  65. steveb12344 says:

    Detroit is getting it handed to them by Chicago. If Anaheim, and LA can beat Cbs, and Dal. This could be another big day for our playoff race. That’s why following games +/- is better, because you can gain ground even when you don’t play.

    6th: SJ +1.5

    7th: Det +1

    8th: StL E

    9th: Dal -.5

    10th Edm -1

    11th Cbs -1.5

    12th Nsh -1.5

    With St L inactive it looks like Det will drop to +.5 Dal can drop into a tie with us with a loss to the Kings. If Cbs doesn’t get at least a point against the Ducks, then they will pretty much drop out of it.

    If you look at Det, St L, Dal, and Edm, and think 2 of those teams will likely make it. It doesn’t seem like such a stretch to think that the Oilers could be one of them.

  66. doritogrande says:

    LT and FPB:

    If we’re in the low teens (just barely miss the playoffs), I like Pulock. He’s having a Wade Redden type of career for a terrible Brandon team. If we manage to do a bit better and Pulock’s no longer available I think it’s hard to pass up this Frederik Gauthier (6’4″ C at almost PPG for Rimouski). Haven’t heard much of this Zadorov guy but someone that sized coming out of junior seems to remind me of Cory Cross. How’s Zadorov’s agility?

  67. Ducey says:

    per ESPN:

    News: Streit and the Islanders are said to be close to a contract extension, according to Newsday. (Fri Mar 29)

    Spin: The Islanders just signed Lubomir Visnovsky to an extension and would like to do the same with Streit. If they are unable to do a deal by the trade deadline on Wednesday, then it would make the most sense to deal him rather than risk losing him for nothing in free agency. Streit wants to stay on Long Island and the Isles need d-men, would be an upset if a contract agreement did not get completed.

    I don’t know what the fancy stats say, but if I was trying to get someone out of CGY, it would be Giordano.

  68. RexLibris says:

    Agreed on trading Whitney, Peckham, Jones and Khabibulin.

    Teams I’d target for Whitney might be Winnipeg (they have a surplus of 2nd and 3rd round picks this year and plenty of cap space), or perhaps Montreal as puck-moving D insurance for Markov (they too have a surplus of 2nd and 3rd round picks this year.

    As for Khabibulin, from what I have read online Kiprusoff’s agent has only asked that any possible trades be run through him first, effectively putting an ad hoc NTC into place. This does raise Khabibulin’s trade value because of increased availability. I only hope Tambellini can see past his own ego (this being his first key free-agent signing) to know that now is the time to trade this asset. Anything above a 3rd round pick has to be considered a clear trade win there.

    Peckham needs a change of scenery, and for what he brings, Teubert can just as easily provide, if not Fistric as well.

    If there is any chance, whatsoever, that the Oilers could acquire Frans Neilsen, then they need to do it. Absolutely.

    As for the draft, if they could come out of round one adding Anthony Mantha I’d be very happy. Find a way to move up and draft Tristan Jarry (reportedly likely to go in the top 40 overall) then do that as well.

  69. RexLibris says:

    Ducey,

    The fancy stats suggest he is having a better season overall than Bouwmeester when adjusted for the deployment, competition, etc.

  70. Ducey says:

    tsnjamesduthie: About to start EDM/VAN on PVR so don’t spoil it for me. Picked up Schneider for my fantasy team. Dropped Taylor Hall. Feelin good. #me

  71. speeds says:

    doritogrande,

    In 2012, Pulock’s stats were 33GP, 10-19 for 29 pts, +12. in 2013, they were for 28 GP, 4-12 for 16 pts, -19

    I’d be curious to know what that’s all about.

  72. Noodles says:

    Derek Van Diest ‏@SUNdvandiest 3m
    I’m hearing four years, $16-million ball park for Smid. Could be done soon. #Oilers

    Dan Tencer ‏@dantencer 13m
    Further to @tsnryanrishaug tweet, would be shocked if Smid didn’t get done. Some firm numbers being discussed, believe in right ballpark.

    Dan Tencer ‏@dantencer 1m
    Regarding numbers on Smid. I wouldn’t be surprised to see something like $3.5M x 4 years. Believe sides are close enough to find a way.

  73. jonrmcleod says:

    From Dan Tancer on Twitter: “Regarding numbers on Smid. I wouldn’t be surprised to see something like $3.5M x 4 years. Believe sides are close enough to find a way.”

  74. wordbird says:

    RexLibris:
    Agreed on trading Whitney, Peckham, Jones and Khabibulin.

    Teams I’d target for Whitney might be Winnipeg (they have a surplus of 2nd and 3rd round picks this year and plenty of cap space), or perhaps Montreal as puck-moving D insurance for Markov (they too have a surplus of 2nd and 3rd round picks this year.

    As for Khabibulin, from what I have read online Kiprusoff’s agent has only asked that any possible trades be run through him first, effectively putting an ad hoc NTC into place. This does raise Khabibulin’s trade value because of increased availability. I only hope Tambellini can see past his own ego (this being his first key free-agent signing) to know that now is the time to trade this asset. Anything above a 3rd round pick has to be considered a clear trade win there.

    Peckham needs a change of scenery, and for what he brings, Teubert can just as easily provide, if not Fistric as well.

    If there is any chance, whatsoever, that the Oilers could acquire Frans Neilsen, then they need to do it. Absolutely.

    As for the draft, if they could come out of round one adding Anthony Mantha I’d be very happy. Find a way to move up and draft Tristan Jarry (reportedly likely to go in the top 40 overall) then do that as well.

    Yeah, i think Peckham’s gone, too.
    Jones to Montreal? think they could use a little of what he brings.
    Khabbi? After seeing Jonas Gustavsson live in Cgy a couple of weeks back, i think DET could use a more solid backup option.

  75. Lowetide says:

    Smid 4 years at $14M is a little better for the Oilers than I thought it would be, here’s hoping!

  76. Clay says:

    Call me a pessimist, but I just don’t have any faith that the management team will make any meaningful / useful / logical moves by the deadline, with maybe the exception of signing Smid.

    I know we’re all excited over the last three games, and it’s been so long since there was any discussion a week before a trade deadline as to whether or not the team is sellers or buyers. But this is Mr. Dithers we’re talking about here, folks, and his boss, Lowe Expectations.

    We all want the management team to bring in veteran help, and with it, hope for the playoffs, but all they’ve been able to prove so far is that they know how to build teams that lose.

    Quite frankly, I hope Tambo doesn’t do anything other than sign Smid, because his track record says he’s more likely to make a horrible move than a smart one.

  77. whale says:

    Back to back with Calgary. Very, very dangerous. Best case would be both OV victories.

  78. doritogrande says:

    Speeds:

    Trading their top two forwards in Bertaggia and Ferland sure contributed to that.

  79. Gret99zky says:

    Lowetide:
    Smid 4 years at $16M is a little better for the Oilers than I thought it would be, here’s hoping!

    If Smid gets $4M per year for his defense, the Younger is going to ask for $6M per for his offense. Right?

    Hoping for 5 years, $17.5M. Sets a better tone.

  80. FPB94 says:

    Wordbird:

    Right now lines are:

    Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
    Ryder-Plekanec-Gionta
    Galcnhenyuk-Eller-Prust
    Moen-Halpern-Armstrong

    with Rene Bourque and Ryan White coming back soon; there’s really no place for Ryan Jones. They might pick up Whitney tough.

  81. Clay says:

    jonrmcleod:
    From Dan Tancer on Twitter: “Regarding numbers on Smid. I wouldn’t be surprised to see something like $3.5M x 4 years. Believe sides are close enough to find a way.”

    I hope this is true. If they’re close, I’d even like 5 x $3.5M.

    Compared to Regehr’s contract. Regehr signed 5 x $4.02M in a year when the cap was $56.7M, and he was 28 years old. That’s ~ 7.09% of the team’s cap.

    Smid at $3.5M would be 5.47% of team cap, assuming a $64M cap next year. Even if you think that Smid is not as good as Regehr was at the same age (debatable), that number is good value.

  82. Gret99zky says:

    Clay,

    Trading Whitney is a must, IMO. Can’t let him walk for nothing. Can’t resign him next year.

    NK is a no brainer as well. But who will bite?

  83. Lowetide says:

    Gret99zky: If Smid gets $4M per year for his defense, the Younger is going to ask for $6M per for his offense.Right?

    Hoping for 5 years, $17.5M.Sets a better tone.

    I actually meant $14M as per Tencer’s tweet but can’t add worth a tinker’s damn. $4M is the outer marker for comfort imo, anything beyond that you have to trade him I’m afraid.

  84. Scotty LaDouche says:

    Crosby out indefinitely with broken jaw. I don’t feel bad for him, just like I don’t feel bad for anyone that doesn’t wear a full cage and gets a facial injury. Why doesn’t the NFL go to visors?

  85. Woodguy says:

    I hope Smid gets signed for 4 or 5 x $3.5MM for three reasons:

    1) Fair, slightly low price for top 4 D with little offence so won’t be a drag on the cap
    2) Real NHL Dman locked down for 4-5 years
    3) I will have guessed Smid’s extension number more accurately than Godot, the same as the Hall and Eberle extensions. :)

  86. Woodguy says:

    speeds:
    That answers half of it:

    Oilers recall Lander

    I hope RK makes the bottom 6:

    94-10-64
    13-57-37/28

    10 dragging around 64 and 28 last two games has been crushed in terms of shot differential.

    Man needs some help.

    94 has been better lately too.

  87. Lowetide says:

    Oh, that Horcoff. Lollygagging to the left, lollygagging to the right! His linemates are easy to spot, they’re circling in the neutral zone! Chop chop #10!

  88. FPB94 says:

    It seems whoever Horcoff’s been playing with his line always blows. So heh for that.

  89. meanashell11 says:

    I am going to assume that Boston is in the win now phase, especially with Crosby getting injured. Using our 2013 1st, what would we need to add that helps Boston win now to get Doug Hamilton (usual caveat, none of the kids are available, can’t gut our team completely)? 1st plus Shultz the Elder? That +Whitney? Or is he completely untouchable? I know these probably make that pick even more valuable but I really like Hamilton…..

  90. TheOtherJohn says:

    Lets trade Smid to Detroit and then complain for the next 5 years how he is in their top pairing with Kronwall. Where he will get paid $4m per. Guess they didnt get the 3.5m defensive D man memo.

    Have no clue how $3.5m became the line in the sand. There are lots of defensive D getting paid more than $3.5m and very few of them are playing first pairing minutes.

    Suspect we will look back at Smid leaving like GlenX walking. You know “how the f&&k did that happen again”

  91. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Lowetide,

    I definitely think Glencross’d be a great fit.
    If EDM keeps shuffling the lines to try to create 3 scoring lines, I’d think an addition like Glencross or Kulemin’d do EDM a lot of good. I certainly never wanna see Jones on the Nuge-Ebs line ever again.

  92. Doomoil says:

    FPB94,

    yeah, that fucking horcoff bringing down perennial all-star jones and defensively responsible vet yakupov.

    meanashell11,

    boston is not trading hamilton.

    for anything.

  93. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Woodguy,

    bring Harti up. Much better than Jonesy

  94. TheOtherJohn says:

    With Sid going down in EC is there no favorite in the east. I.e. is it now that any of the good teams can win it? Would we be able to get Carl Soderberg out of Boston or either Gardiner or Morgan Reilly out of Toronto?

  95. FPB94 says:

    Doomoil,

    That’s fine; i didn’t say Jones or Yaks were great player (yet) but I’ve seen that sentence over and over and over for the last 2-3 years with name swaps.

  96. Doomoil says:

    FPB94,

    the oilers are 6-2-2 since his return.

    you can pinpoint our midseason free fall to the moment he went down with the knuckle injury. if you can watch these games and come away with the conclusion that horcoff makes the oilers worse then i’m not sure what to tell you.

  97. FPB94 says:

    Doomoil,

    I’m not saying he makes the Oilers necessarily worst, just that often people seem to drag on his linemates when he doesn’t seem (by metrics) to be doing much better. (And when it’s fine just the same, he gets alot of credit and his linemates don’t get shit)

  98. Lois Lowe says:

    The whole “playoff race” thing is rather enjoyable. More of it please.

  99. Ducey says:

    Clay,

    We all want the management team to bring in veteran help, and with it, hope for the playoffs, but all they’ve been able to prove so far is that they know how to build teams that lose.

    Quite frankly, I hope Tambo doesn’t do anything other than sign Smid, because his track record says he’s more likely to make a horrible move than a smart one.

    I am not interested in the Oilers bringing in veteran help. I am much more interested in them selling and bringing in some college/ junior free agents. They traded Dick Tarnstrom to get Glencross way back when. CLB had signed Glencross as a freeagent after he was not drafted. Giordano never was drafted either.

    Sign the next Giordano or Glencross or trade Whitney/ Bulin/ Jones for some guys who look to be blocked/ primed for breakout.

    This is supposed to be what MacT and Howson are doing so hopefully they come thru.

    Trading for a deadline rental makes no sense at all. The guy is likely to play 13 regular season games. If they make the playoffs, he might play 4 or 5 more as they get destroyed by CHI.

  100. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide:
    Oh, that Horcoff. Lollygagging to the left, lollygagging to the right! His linemates are easy to spot, they’re circling in the neutral zone! Chop chop #10!

    Lollygagger.

  101. Woodguy says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Woodguy,

    bring Harti up. Much better than Jonesy

    Preaching to the choir.

  102. WeridAl says:

    For a team the relies on it’s D for its size and grit, how can someone actually believe Mark Streit is a option for the Oilers. The Oilers need to add size a C and getting Frans Nielson would be a step backward, he’s good defensively, but he sucks at the FO. After watching Bishop against the Leafs do you actually believe he would be a option and since he is RFA this year what would he be asking for in salary. Like Curtis Glencross, but most Edmonton fans would know playing against the Flames that Glencross can be a coward and is often hot and then stone cold. Cannot see any of these 4 I would want on the Oilers.

  103. Ducey says:

    I see Zach Kassian was sent down to the AHL today.

    Meanwhile Cody Hodgson is at 28 pts in 35 games and plays center, VAN’s biggest need right now.

    Kassian is only 22 but that trade sure doesn’t look good.

  104. Captain Obvious says:

    For the curious, in 11-12 Streit, Yandle, and Giordano were all very good. Similar players in value to Tobias Enstrom and Brent Seabrook.

    Streit +26 (+25 ES, +1 SH)
    Yandle +24 (+24 ES)
    Giordano + 18 (+14 ES, +2 SH, +4 PP)
    Enstrom +21 (+16 ES, +5 PP)
    Seabrook +20 )+24 ES)

    And Nielsen is one of the most underated players in the league, +20 ES, very similar to Glencross + 25 (+17 ES, +1 SH. +7 PP), and Mike Fisher +24 (+20 ES, +4 PP). Another similar type is Marcel Goc, +17 (+15 ES, +2 PP).

  105. WeridAl says:

    RexLibris,

    I heard the Flames are asking for a 1st for Kiprusoff, which is little to rich for teams. I can see a bidding war for Fistric, a big tough D is what most playoff teams love to have, should bring a 2nd.

  106. steveb12344 says:

    Ducey,

    ” he might play 4 or 5 more as they get destroyed by CHI. ”

    I have a feeling that Edm. is just about the LAST team Chi. wants to run into in the first round.

  107. WeridAl says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    Would rather call up Marincin, who hasn’t done too bad on a bad Baron team. Moves the puck well, with a big heavy shot, and is responsible in his own end, he might surprise some people and would at least give him some experience.

  108. maudite says:

    Schedules going forward:

    STL: 15 games

    8 at home
    2 back to backs
    - rd Hawks, home CBJ
    - rd wild, rd CBJ
    ————————————————–
    6 games vs upper teams (3 vs Hawks!)
    9 vs mid to lower (1 flames, 2 avs, 2 CBJ, 1 phx)

    SJ: 14 games
    8 at home
    2 back to back games
    - 1st game road vs coyotes, then kings at home
    - 1st game home vs dallas, the road vs coyotes
    5 vs upper teams
    9 vs mid to lower (1 flames, 2 CBJ, 2 phx)

    Det: 13 games
    6 at home
    3 back to back
    - home vs avs tomorrow
    - rd coyotes, rd avs
    - home kings, home preds
    3 vs upper teams
    1 vs mid to lower (2 avs, 1 flames, 2 phx)

    DAL 15 games
    7 home
    3 back to back
    - home kings, home ducks
    - rd preds, home sharks
    - home nucks, rd blues
    8 vs upper teams
    7 mid to lower (1 CBJ)

    NSH 13 games
    8 home
    3 back to back
    -rd CHI, home avs
    -home hawks, rd hawks
    - home wings, home nucks
    5 vs upper (4 vs Hawks!)
    8 mid to lower (2 CBJ, 1 AVS, 1 Flames)

    Edm 14 games
    8 home
    2 back to back
    - rd flames, rd nucks
    - home ducks, home ducks
    7 vs upper (1 Hawks, 3 ducks, 2 nucks)
    7 vs mid to lower (3 flames, 1 avs, 1 PHX

  109. PDO says:

    Cody Hodgson has 28 points in 35 games.

    Zach Kassian has been demoted to the AHL.

    …. that right there is the trade that the Oiler’s cannot make. And it’s the one we should all be terrified of them making; whether it’s Gagner, Hemsky or Paajarvi.

    If they get Smid in at 4.0 or lower and term, that’s a good deal and a nice hometown discount

  110. vishcosity says:

    Woodguy: http://www.hockey-reference.com/

    Nice lead. Thanks.

    If the Oilers are looking to add a #1 defenseman to go with the cluster, that dman would probably appear on the spreadsheet I just made. (I took 06-10 draft years, organized by position, copied defenseman selected in the top 50 each year and pasted those names into a spreadsheet.)

    While there is a chance that a future top shelf HOF style defender is undrafted, its probably slim. So the guys on this list (drafted 2006 – 2010 and specifically in the top 50 or 75 dmen drafted each year), each arguably have a chance to be the one. Or, the one the Oil need is probably on this list.

    I want to compare the players on this list by way of their metrics in the other leagues, then add some coefficients for NHLe to rank them all respectively. I want to see what Gormley did compared to Rundblad over the last 7 days, and I can’t figure out how, other than program websites, and I would need to learn to do that first.

    Is there currently a system to have numbers auto upload into a data base nightly from each league? I have no idea how progressive or rudimentary is data sharing currently. Anyone know how hard would that be to build, or if there is a reason it hasn’t been done yet?

  111. WeridAl says:

    maudite,

    So you consider Wild as a mid-lower team, especially when the Oilers have a tough time against Minny

  112. BlacqueJacque says:

    Jakub Kindl stole the show for this year’s “own goal” competition. Petry barely even registers after Kindl’s massive screwup.

  113. WeridAl says:

    BlacqueJacque,

    It was a bute.

    On a side note, notice the Lander has been recalled, does this mean the Ryan Jones has been traded.

  114. hunter1909 says:

    PDO: Zach Kassian has been demoted to the AHL.

    Everything fell apart once they received the copyright attorney letter.

  115. hunter1909 says:

    Ducey: Trading for a deadline rental makes no sense at all. The guy is likely to play 13 regular season games. If they make the playoffs, he might play 4 or 5 more as they get destroyed by CHI.

    Chicago must be licking their chops – in anticipation of meeting a 1st round patsy like last night’s Oilers.

  116. FPB94 says:

    Surprising how the Leafs seem to be willing to pay to downgrade their goaltending from Reimer and Scriven’s stellar ,920% save to Kiprusoff’s ,880% or Luongo’s ,900%

  117. Woodguy says:

    vishcosity,

    Lots of guys are auto uploading the game sheets from NHL.com

    That’s where BTN, stats.hockeyanalysis and I think Mike Parkatti get their info.

    I’m not sure how they do it, but essentially its a data dump into excel files.

  118. prairieschooner says:

    My sister in law a Flames fan says that Kipper has indicated he will retire if the Flames try to trade him.He apparently owns a team somewhere that he would get more involved with.
    No idea if there is anything to it.
    I doubt if Giordano is available.
    If Smid gets done that will avoid subtraction by subtraction.
    Re Whitney I think Boston have some problems if they take another D man on board, I think they have 2 surplus Dmen at present on their big club

  119. FPB94 says:

    How long does it take to recover from a broken jaw?

    Life might have pissed in the Penguins’ flowers.

  120. steveb12344 says:

    FPB94,

    Sid is expected to be ready for the playoffs.

  121. spoiler says:

    In Smid’s own words:

    “I’d like a five years, around that term. Yeah five years at $3.5 million (a season), that would be nice. I’d be more than happy with that. Obviously you look around and see what other guys are making,” said Smid, who has played 443 Oiler games since coming here along with Joffrey Lupul and draft picks in the Chris Pronger trade with Anaheim in 2007.

    “I do think we’re getting closer (to a deal). Negotiations are pretty good right now. We have three days left and I’m really hopeful we’ll get a deal done. Obviously we have to have something done by Wednesday. I would hate to be traded. We have a great thing going on now and I’d hate to leave.”

    From Matheson in the EJ.

  122. PDO says:

    You’re far more prone to a concussion when your jaw is compromised.

  123. sliderule says:

    We should be selling hard.

    The schedule while it has lots of home games is brutal.

    Three back to backs.

    If we get 14 pts it will be a good run and hope that Lindholm drops to us.

  124. "Steve Smith" says:

    prairieschooner:
    My sister in law a Flames fan says that Kipper has indicated he will retire if the Flames try to trade him.He apparently owns a team somewhere that he would get more involved with.
    No idea if there is anything to it.

    There isn’t.

  125. FPB94 says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    Nabokov and Visnovsky are still holding out. Oh wait,

  126. gcw_rocks says:

    Lowetide,

    Gret99zky:
    Would you trade this year’s first pick for help now?
    LT:
    No. Oilers aren’t at that point, and the pick could be Seth Jones or MacKinnon or that Giant Finn.

    Would you do it if Kulikov was coming back the other way?

  127. maudite says:

    WeridAl:
    maudite,

    So you consider Wild as a mid-lower team, especially when the Oilers have a tough time against Minny

    Nope, unless I miscounted. I put Chicago, Van, La, ANH & Min as upper teams.

  128. copperblueandwhite says:

    FPB94,

    Tony Mantha is rated 27th by ISS…many better players before him…including Zadorov.

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