OILERS AT BLACKHAWKS G25 (12-13) 10.3.13

First time I saw Horcoff, he made a beautiful play in pre-season, tying up an opposition forward flying through the slot as the puck whipped past. Horcoff held his mark through the slot and out of the sequence, one sortie well defended. That was fall 2000.

Since that day, Shawn Horcoff has skated in over 800 games for the Oilers (regular and post-season) and mentored miles and miles of wingers. Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle spent their first season with him, Nail Yakupov will likely get plenty of time with the captain in these last 24 games and Drouin or Mantha could end up playing with Horcoff next year.

I don’t think he’ll be captain next year, in fact I wrote about it being possible a summer ago.

Horcoff gives the team a badly needed option at center, and puts Smyth back at his natural position. I don’t think the Oilers win today, but they should be a lot more competitive. I hope Horc can grip his stick, the Mike York memories remain.

Oilers moved Brandon Davidson up from Stockton to OKC for today’s game, this kid is such an incredible story.

Kevin Lowe was in OKC last night, looking at the talent on the farm. He would have seen Toni Rajala and Taylor Fedun good among prospects, but I think they are probably looking at Brett Clark who has been outstanding since coming to OKC.

Speaking of Lowe, we’re coming up on 10th anniversary of the “Perry and a 1st” for Comrie deal that got shived because the Oilers wanted $2.5M from Comrie. Should we have some kind of event to mark the anniversary? Perhaps we meet at the Gretzky statue and play “Taps”? We have time, let’s mull it over.

march 10

Oilers found the range at their exact mid-point of the season, which is impressive. The key is to leave it alone–someone hurt? STOP, DROP AND ROLL!–and the Oilers are experts. A well timed pickup of a veteran center and a useful defenseman might be worth a win or two, but it was not to be, and the Oilers felt they needed to replace Darcy Hordichuk’s spot on the roster more than Horcoff’s or Whitney’s.

The Lowetide at High Noon Show is archived now at Team 1260. The podcast page is here, and the show is the last one downloaded (so #1). We talked Oiler struggles, the bottom 6 and how to fix it–at the deadline and in summer–the draft, McCurdy’s zone exits, Woodguy’s impressive defense of Paajarvi and OKC Barons with Neal Livingston from Tend the Farm. Have a listen if you have time.

I’d like to see the following lines and pairings today:

  • Nuge-Hall-Eberle
  • Gagner-Paajarvi-Hemsky
  • Horcoff-Smyth-Yakupov
  • Belanger-Jones-Brown
  • Smid-Petry
  • Schultz-Schultz
  • Whitney-Peckham
  • Dubnyk

In speaking to both Bruce McCurdy and Darcy McLeod on the show yesterday, I was surprised to find out both feel men like Eric Belanger and Ryan Jones will have trade value. My question to both surrounded how to fix the bottom 6, and both men felt the trade deadline was key.

So, a question: What is reasonable trade deadline value for the following players:

  • Eric Belanger
  • Ryan Jones
  • Lennart Petrell
  • Ryan Smyth
  • Mike Brown
  • Lennart Petrell
  • Ben Eager
  • Ryan Whitney
  • Nick Schultz
  • Mark Fistric
  • Ladislav Smid
  • Nikolai Khabibulin

Vollman’s latest chart, courtesy Rob and Jonathan Willis:

puc mar9

This reflects what we talked about yesterday: Petrell, Belanger, Eager, Hordichuk are getting beaten about the face and hands every sortie. The blue notes are the good ones in this bubble-filled graph, with the Chance trio, Magnus Paajarvi, the unrelated Schultz brothers and Teddy Peckman (very small ss) getting the blue sky checkmark.

My only concern among the younger group is the amount of playing time Schultz the younger is getting (they don’t have a number when the kid is lost, and he’s a little lost right now) and the type of minutes the Nuge is getting (tough, tough minutes every shift–he’s still a teenager, folks!).

Anyway, there’s progress and the management team looks pretty bad by this graph–all the kids who were drafted going back to Petry and Peckham are surviving. The problem is the men our GM brought in.

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  1. Gerta Rauss says:

    delooper,

    I think WG’s got a couple units on an Oiler win, with long odds to boot.

  2. "Steve Smith" says:

    bookje: A week ago, I was expecting this.By now I had given up.

    ME TOO! Just when you’ve learned not to engage in reasonable expectation, because the Oilers will defy them in the most ridiculous possible manner, they get you again.

    Christ, what a dumb team.

  3. leadfarmer says:

    While 6 is a pylon in his own end he end petry are the only players that will pinch in the o-zone. Now all he needs is for someone to invent ankle transplants.

  4. striatic says:

    bookje: The thing is, those are good goals.

    not the first one.

    otherwise, sure.

  5. Woodguy says:

    Thank various gods I set the PVR, I thought this started at 6pm.

    Just caught up.

    Amazing start obv.

    Everyone is trying.

    Looks like the captain brings more than just a defensive presence.

    RK started the 4th in the ozone and neutral zone only so far. That’s new, and good.

    Hossa out against 56-93-14 scares me a little.

    Eager may never play another game for the Oilers again.

    Yay!

    thant

  6. Lowetide says:

    Oh, For Christ’s sake.

  7. BlacqueJacque says:

    GAGNER!

    On the power play courtesy of Mike Brown’s smart play. Sweet, fast pass off the wing down to the middle by Whitney.

    What is it about the Blackhawks…

  8. OilClog says:

    Brown is looking horrible

  9. striatic says:

    why doesn’t Brown fight there?

  10. Woodguy says:

    God I wish 6 could pivot.

    His offensive instincts have really come around.

    Sam makes CHI his bitch.

  11. striatic says:

    2 goals for Brown tonight.

  12. russ99 says:

    That goal was just sick!

    Where was this team the last two weeks? Maybe that players-only meeting shook things up a bit.

    Made a mistake not taking my friend’s ticket offer for this one – that Nashville game was especially awful, and watching my team embarrassed by the Hawks isn’t my idea of fun. Who knew?

    BTW – for the record, Gilbert sucks. Look at his numbers this year, especially at his cap number. Not a fan of Grebs coming back – a year or two older and a few years removed from playing North American style hockey. This summer they should sign Streit and make a deal for another top-4 guy, then the remaining defensmen get pushed down 1-2 spots and have to earn ice time, along with Marincin and Klefbom in the mix.

    Which really is the biggest problem with this team – too many poor players getting icetime by default.

  13. "Steve Smith" says:

    Careful, this isn’t in the bag yet.

    (See “Team, completely fucking ridiculous”, above.)

  14. Lois Lowe says:

    When the Oilers blow this lead it is really going to sting.

  15. bookje says:

    Yep, I had missed the first goal – just saw the replay – not a good goal!

    Also, fuck this team!

  16. leadfarmer says:

    I like how Brown chose not to fight. No reason to give the other team a boost, and he got a pp of the deal. For a fighting player he might have at least a 5 cent head.

  17. OilClog says:

    If Belanger was in, Smyth wouldn’t be on the 4th and this wouldn’t be happening.

  18. jake70 says:

    If Gagner could play Chicago and Colorado 41 games a year each, he would be a guaranteed HOFer.

  19. Lowetide says:

    Well if it is Gagner the Islanders are looking at this probably seals the deal.

  20. tcho says:

    6 played Toews well there. Good stick.

  21. leadfarmer says:

    Hey who taught these guys how to pass over the weekend.

  22. "Steve Smith" says:

    russ99:
    BTW – for the record, Gilbert sucks. Look at his numbers this year,

    I see him playing second-pairing competition and leading Minnesota defence in RelCorsi, with roughly expected zoneshift – what am I missing?

  23. jake70 says:

    Lol, Gagner calmly on the bench thinking about the dollars this summer.

  24. tcho says:

    How often do the Oilers try clearing their own zone by forcing it up the wall? 90%? Too high? 80%? Other teams may have picked up on this… I’ve heard this videotape thing is pretty big in pro sporting circles.

  25. VanOil says:

    Do you think RK having a face like a smack ass behind the bench right now is an act and he is really a giddy as a school girl?

  26. BlacqueJacque says:

    56-93-14 with some great chances produced by Eb’s and Nuge’s hustle.

  27. Minister D- says:

    Who are these guys and what have they done with the Oilers?
    Also: I’m pretty sure Sam Gagner is playing his way out of Edmonton.

  28. nelson88 says:

    what a crazy team. will have to make an infrequent visit to coppernblue on monday to hear how brown is the worst hockey player in history. way better head then eager.

  29. Lowetide says:

    Marincin (Rajala). Boys and girls, Rajala is a beast!

  30. Lowetide says:

    Dennis King ‏@DKingBH

    Chances after 20 min: 9-0; 1-0 ST

    Holy.

  31. Lucinius says:

    Lowetide,

    Nice to see Marincin getting some points, as well.

  32. crude says:

    Minister D-,

    I think the Eberle contract played Sam out of town.

  33. russ99 says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    For such a good puck-mover, now playing on a better team with better teammates and more help from the forwards than he has in the past, he only has 8 points in 23 games at -8, pretty similar to his Oilers numbers in 11-12.

    Plus Justin Schultz is outscoring him as a rookie.

    Besides the issue is not so much why was he traded, rather why the Oilers didn’t address the position this summer, bringing back Potter, Peckham and eventually getting Fistric.

  34. bones says:

    Glad I stayed up this time (I’m in the UK). LT, great show yesterday, I listened to the podcast today. Kirk, Bruce, WG and Neal were really good. Was going to suggest The Rain Song for your next intro music, but the way the oilers look tonight you may not need it just yet…

  35. nelson88 says:

    Lowetide:
    Marincin (Rajala). Boys and girls, Rajala is a beast!

    nice to see roy give them some quality goaltending tonight.

  36. VanOil says:

    Lowetide:
    Marincin (Rajala). Boys and girls, Rajala is a beast!

    Rajala and Paajarvi are going to make some other GM look really smart one day.

  37. striatic says:

    Gagner will sign in Edmonton.

    I shudder to think of how his signing will impact Edmonton’s cap space, but i’m almost entirely sure this will happen.

    Hemsky needs to be moved to address need though. It hasn’t been the right time, but now it is.

  38. Rebilled says:

    Missed the FOUR first period goals? Visit some app to watch them now!

  39. "Steve Smith" says:

    russ99,

    Have a look at PDO, correlate the Wild defence’s +/-/60 with it, and tell me what you find (it’s the same thing you’ll find on most teams).

    With respect to offensive production, he’s second among Wild defencemen at ES scoring (behind Suter). He’s averaging two and a half minutes of power play time per game (third among Wild defencemen, and forty-five seconds less per game than Justin Schultz is). In contrast, when Gilbert was with the Oilers, he was consistently one of the top two defencemen on the team in power play time. That’s going to have a significant effect on a defenceman’s total offensive output.

    He’s also scoring at eight times the clip of the guy we traded him for, who has an identical cap hit.

    Tom Gilbert would immediately become the Oilers’ best defenceman if we got him back, sort like he was when we traded him.

    (To be clear, I don’t think Gilbert is a legitimate #1 defenceman on a good team – I’m just saying that he was on the Oilers and would be again.)

  40. Lowetide says:

    Well, that happened. Devan was a rolling!

  41. Rebilled says:

    worst shut-out blower ever?

  42. jake70 says:

    Lol, what kind of a back-checker is 40 anyway, poor effort there.

  43. TheOtherJohn says:

    “Besides the issue is not so much why was he traded, rather why the Oilers didn’t address the position this summer, bringing back Potter, Peckham and eventually getting Fistric”

    Well making shitty trades does not help you get better

    It’s just in Edmonton that nobody asks you if you are crazy when making a notable bad trade

  44. russ99 says:

    Does Dubnyk think he’s Billy Smith?

    Never saw a goalie so embarrassed at the big league level like that in two straight games.

    UGH.

  45. striatic says:

    i guess Dubnyk didn’t trust Whitney’s speed coming back or something.

  46. jake70 says:

    here we go

  47. OilClog says:

    Jeebus

  48. Smarmy says:

    Oilers are gonna give this one up. They’re already looking really Oilery and they’ll have nothing left in the third.

  49. tcho says:

    40 can’t be hurt.

  50. striatic says:

    what was Yak thinking there?

  51. leadfarmer says:

    Back to the ledge everyone.

  52. nelson88 says:

    striatic:
    i guess Dubnyk didn’t trust Whitney’s speed coming back or something.

    that was a bad pinch by schultz jr. nothing to do with whitney.

  53. Smarmy says:

    Yakupov has no clue in his own end. I kind of enjoy that about him.

  54. russ99 says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    No Gilbert would be the same has he was here before – a plus player in the breakout and on the power play and a liability in his own zone, especially with his board play, passing the puck deep in the zone to get the puck out of the defensive zone and just as awful one-on-one against players with the puck.

    His only real value is his puck-moving, and if he’s not putting up numbers to justify that part of his game (especially at that cap hit) he’s no better an option than a Petry or Schultz the younger who have the potential to be better than Gilbert defensively.

    And when you drag Nick Schultz into the conversation, it’s foolish comparing completely different players, especially since Nick is doing all the heavy lifting on the same pairing as Justin – who again is not only outscoring Gilbert, but looks as good as if not better as a puck-mover and on the power play.

  55. ashley says:

    This game suddenly has a game 1, 2006 SCF feel.

  56. Rebilled says:

    10 minutes of Danis.

  57. Lowetide says:

    Well, everyone who hates Dubnyk in goal: strap yourself in!

  58. OilClog says:

    Why do the hockey gods hate us? Have we not suffered enough?!?!

  59. dessert1111 says:

    Didn’t think we’d see Olivier Roy starting as the Oilers’ goalie this year, but he’s not too far away at this point.

  60. Ryan says:

    The issue with Gilbert is simple.

    Matheson in his controversial piece which alluded to tampering (unintentionally) suggested that the trade was win-win for both teams since they both got what they needed.

    If both parties get what they want in a trade–the conclusion that it therefore is a win-win is a non-sequitur.

    i.e. If you want a set of used winter tires (which I have say worth $100) and I want a Rolex watch which you posses (worth $6000)…. and we make a trade–we both get what we wanted, is it therefore a win-win situation?

    In this case, RH dmen are in shorter supply than LH dmen. On top of that, puck moving dmen are in shorter supply than stay-at-home dmen. Unless you could argue that Schultz sr. is a vastly superior player to Gilbert, the Oilers obviously lost the trade.

    What’s worse is that you could probably make a good argument that Gilber’s not only a RH puck moving dman, but he’s also a superior player to Schultz sr (who by the way is 24 gp: 0-1-1 and -15 this season). On that note, Poile stole Tambellini’s lunch money.

    The fact that J. Schultz signed here likely had nothing to do with this trade, so that doesn’t factor into things.

    russ99:
    “Steve Smith”,

    For such a good puck-mover, now playing on a better team with better teammates and more help from the forwards than he has in the past, he only has 8 points in 23 games at -8, pretty similar to his Oilers numbers in 11-12.

    Plus Justin Schultz is outscoring him as a rookie.

    Besides the issue is not so much why was he traded, rather why the Oilers didn’t address the position this summer, bringing back Potter, Peckham and eventually getting Fistric.

  61. regwald says:

    Wow, that’s a nice push back to change the momentum. That dirty Russian !

  62. striatic says:

    OilClog: Why do the hockey gods hate us? Have we not suffered enough?!?!

    what was that again?

  63. Gerta Rauss says:

    I’m not worried-we’ve got the MVP waming up in the bullpen.

  64. "Steve Smith" says:

    Putrid goal.

  65. Lowetide says:

    The filthy Russian! He’s the ultimate slump buster for the Nuge, too!

  66. OilClog says:

    If Dubnyk is out for any extended length of time and they don’t make a move for a goalie.. Public flogging!

  67. Ice Sage says:

    #10 Haters, horcoff and… you know

  68. Woodguy says:

    That 1st unit power play looks sick.

    Who knew that Horcoff affected the powerplay so much?

    Its all about Horcoff.

    He may be under paid.

    tht

  69. striatic says:

    Ryan: What’s worse is that you could probably make a good argument that Gilber’s not only a RH puck moving dman, but he’s also a superior player to Schultz sr (who by the way is 24 gp: 0-1-1 and -15 this season). On that note, Poile stole Tambellini’s lunch money.

    i agree with you, though i’ve heard some argue that J. Schultz doesn’t sign here if Gilbert is on the team.

  70. OilClog says:

    striatic,

    After this game.. Who is our starting goalie and back up.. Certainly not a hockey god.

  71. "Steve Smith" says:

    Ryan: What’s worse is that you could probably make a good argument that Gilber’s not only a RH puck moving dman, but he’s also a superior player to Schultz sr

    You can scarcely make any other argument, unless you’re that BReynolds guy at Hockey Wilderness. Some people have this weird prejudice that defencemen who can handle the puck must be weak defensively, and defencemen who bring no offence to the table must be stronger defensively (counter-example: Jason Strudwick). Gilbert is markedly superior to Nick Schultz defensively, and of course offensively it’s not even close.

    In terms of the impact on the team, that’s arguably the worst trade of Tambellini’s reign (there have been stupider trades, but most of them involved bit pieces, with the Brown trade being the most recent one)..

  72. ashley says:

    Maybe that injury fixed Horcoff’s hands.

    Wasn’t this Saad guy available at #31 in the Pitlick draft? It would seem that he would have been the guy to reach for if the Oilers had been into coke machines with skill like they currently seem to be. Vs Moroz, Saad looks like he’s an actual NHL player. A day late, a dollar short.

    It’s a shame Pitlick hasn’t worked out yet. It looked like a good pick draft day.

  73. "Steve Smith" says:

    striatic: i agree with you, though i’ve heard some argue that J. Schultz doesn’t sign here if Gilbert is on the team.

    Even with Gilbert, the Oilers defence was pretty lousy – there was plenty of room for a rookie of Schultz’s talent to come in and steal minutes.

    I don’t know, it could be true that Schultz wouldn’t have signed here if we’d kept Gilbert, but if so he’s not terribly bright. It would also seem to go against (but not directly contradict) all the stuff Schultz was saying about him not having asked the Oilers to make any promises respecting role.

  74. striatic says:

    OilClog: After this game.. Who is our starting goalie and back up.. Certainly not a hockey god.

    we don’t know Dubnyk is out for more than this game. yet.

    i will reserve my blasphemy until such time as the extent of the injury is confirmed.

  75. Gret99zky says:

    The Nuge needs a C with a stoney grip to bank his shots off of.

    Kiss off the glass if you will.

  76. Ice Sage says:

    Blackhawks pregame banter: “hey this losing business ain’t so bad, let’s get aonther streak going!”

  77. BlacqueJacque says:

    Hemsky made me spill my drink!

  78. OilClog says:

    striatic,

    True, but if history tells us anything. He’s done long enough that our teams lack of NHL depth at all positions ensures our basement positioning.

  79. OilClog says:

    That was beautiful

  80. Rebilled says:

    no goal

  81. hunter1909 says:

    Just tuned in with 5 minutes left and before I could finish saying “gee, Mister Tambellini’s been doing a great job” the Hawks scored to make it a 2 goal game.

    Just so y’all know who to blame if this doesn’t turn out well.

  82. Gret99zky says:

    somebody pollygrip that goddamn mouthguard onto Gags teeth.

  83. striatic says:

    what was Gagner doing giving up on the play there?

  84. hunter1909 says:

    Gret99zky,

    He deserves to be traded away for picks just for doing that alone.

  85. Woodguy says:

    The single best thing to happen to Shawn Horcoff (besides his brain and skating ability, was quicker 6 years ago), is the fact thta he’s been damn near the perfect foil for Hemsky.

    We’ve whined all these years for offensive players to play with Hemsky, but he plays well with Horcoff.

    Funny.

    t

  86. Lowetide says:

    Gagner the culprit on that goal, just a terrible 30 seconds.

  87. BlacqueJacque says:

    Hallsy with the tip from Nuge.

  88. Rebilled says:

    goal

  89. Lowetide says:

    You know this PP looks like last year, the Nuge sees things again.

  90. BlacqueJacque says:

    Lowetide:
    Gagner the culprit on that goal, just a terrible 30 seconds.

    Yup. That’s why if he asks for $6m and manages 1ppg, it’s too much =/

  91. hunter1909 says:

    This game reminds me of that 1990 12-6 game when Messier scored about 19 goals that game.

  92. OilClog says:

    Well..

  93. Numenius says:

    What a range of emotions in one game.

  94. VanOil says:

    My brain box hurts. This game is a random collection of ridiculousness. Hurts I tell ya. WTF is next? I don’t know but I will probably watch the 3d period to find out.

  95. BlacqueJacque says:

    6-4.

    Mother of God what a game.

  96. Gret99zky says:

    hunter1909,

    He sees Kane, the champ, doing it and wants a title shot.

  97. Gerta Rauss says:

    I’m mulling over my picks for the shootout.

  98. delooper says:

    So it’s an 80′s game tonight. Last team to score will win.

  99. Woodguy says:

    That was interference on Hossa.

    Out right assinine to call that on 89.

    Assholes.

    RNH scores on the powerplay by bouncing it off people’s sticks.

    He’s a witch.

    tht

  100. OilClog says:

    This game needs a bench clearing brawl

  101. Smarmy says:

    Oilers better hope for more PPs because it’s looking grim 5v5.

  102. hunter1909 says:

    Hall’s turning into such a badass.

  103. Dee Dee says:

    Firewagon Hockey!

    We were promised this all year!!

  104. BlacqueJacque says:

    Dee Dee:
    Firewagon Hockey!

    We were promised this all year!!

    The solution to the NHL’s ratings woes? Bad goaltending.

  105. dessert1111 says:

    I don’t understand how a team playing this exciting of a game could have played such horribly boring ones so many games in a row

  106. crude says:

    Horcoff is badass.

  107. Smarmy says:

    dessert1111:
    I don’t understand how a team playing this exciting of a game could have played such horribly boring ones so many games in a row

    It’s more indicative of how teams are choosing to play the Oilers. Trap them to death and they can’t beat it.

    I’m totally for leaving goalie equipment the way it is and making the nets bigger. More goals makes for better hockey.

  108. godot10 says:

    dessert1111:
    I don’t understand how a team playing this exciting of a game could have played such horribly boring ones so many games in a row

    If you take out three non-NHL forwards out of the roster, and add three actual NHL forwards to the roster…you know, it makes a difference.

  109. OilClog says:

    I hope Browns jackhammer finds a face in the 3rd

  110. leadfarmer says:

    Woodguy,

    89 shows exactly why you dont pay him $5 mil a year. One of my favorite oilers but gives up too much the other way. Whitney is the only defenseman other than petry that knows he is allowed to enter the other teams zone past the blue line.
    Finally exciting last place hockey. Blackhawks playing the oilers the way you are not supposed to play the oilers.

  111. BlacqueJacque says:

    I’d just like to point out, before anyone gets too excited, that the Oilers got outshot 20-6 in that period.

    The score arguably isn’t reflective of the play.

  112. Woodguy says:

    6-4 after 2

    I’m having too much fun watching the game to pay attention to the thread.

    Am I the first to ask if Murray Bannerman is in net for the Hawks?

    6

  113. OilClog says:

    godot10,

    Are you trying to make us believe Petrell is a player.. Good luck with that.

  114. VanOil says:

    Smarmy:
    Oilers better hope for more PPs because it’s looking grim 5v5.

    Other than losing both a goal and a goalie the PP has been exciting this game. I have no idea if I wan’t more PP’s or not in the 3d. Anything could happen and probably will. Reasonably sure it will be a high event period.

  115. hunter1909 says:

    This looks like the game I’m always waiting for where Oilers score first, because they almost never do and it kills them, what with their flowery dispositions and everything.

  116. Lowetide says:

    Dennis King ‏@DKingBH

    2nd period chances: 7-12; 3-4 ST. After 40 min: 16-12; 4-4

  117. godot10 says:

    OilClog:
    godot10,

    Are you trying to make us believe Petrell is a player.. Good luck with that.

    Hemsky, Horcoff, Hartikainen….I think that counts for three.

  118. Lowetide says:

    Michael Parkatti ‏@mparkatti

    Wow. CHI won Corsi 25-5 that period at ES, now 38-24 CHI. Hemsky +2, Hall +1, Horc/Gags/PRV -1. JSchultz -9, Whitney/Ebs -8, Petrell -7.

    So we’re back to Dennis’ scoring chances suggesting one thing and Parkatti’s Corsi telling us another. At least this way they score, anyway.

  119. godot10 says:

    Lowetide:
    Michael Parkatti ‏@mparkatti

    Wow. CHI won Corsi 25-5 that period at ES, now 38-24 CHI. Hemsky +2, Hall +1, Horc/Gags/PRV -1. JSchultz -9, Whitney/Ebs -8, Petrell -7.

    So we’re back to Dennis’ scoring chances suggesting one thing and Parkatti’s Corsi telling us another. At least this way they score, anyway.

    Nugent-Hopkins taking on Toews/Hossa at even strength without Hall is not really a fair fight.

  120. hunter1909 says:

    leadfarmer: Blackhawks playing the oilers the way you are not supposed to play the oilers.

    In an hypothetically incredible twist of fate, the Tambellini/Lowe/MacT/Bucky(who Billy Bob Thornton plays in the feature movie)/Steve Smith(the ex-Oiler not the Lowetide poster)Oilers become a good team.

    Meanwhile, if the Oilers ever get good the Blackhawks instantly become a main rival, and for some inexplicable reason the Hawks think the same thing so they play the Oilers with respect, driving themselves crazy in the process.

  121. Numenius says:

    OilClog,

    I’m not sure Petrell is worse than Jones though.

  122. dessert1111 says:

    godot10: If you take out three non-NHL forwards out of the roster, and add three actual NHL forwards to the roster…you know, it makes a difference.

    For sure, but I don’t think those three players are solely responsible for this much more inspired play. It’s not just that they have more offense though, the last few games were so dull and this one is one of the best I’ve seen all year, with the high-tempo and all.

  123. Smarmy says:

    Numenius:
    OilClog,

    I’m not sure Petrell is worse than Jones though.

    He’s worse by any measure you want to use.

  124. hunter1909 says:

    Numenius: ’m not sure Petrell is worse than Jones though.

    How about we simply agree: Petrell’s not good enough at playing hockey to be in the NHL.

  125. Rebilled says:

    Did they really just play Limp Biscuits?

    Fired.

  126. hunter1909 says:

    Thank fuck Petrell didn’t score. :P

  127. crude says:

    37 in for 14?
    Am I missing something?

  128. dessert1111 says:

    Petrell is not the guy I want there in that situation, why was he on that line?

  129. Lowetide says:

    NIce work there by Hall to get it to center and shoot it in after the Oilers had been bottled up for a time.

  130. OilClog says:

    Petrell in yakupov’s spot.. Brilliant!

  131. hunter1909 says:

    Who’s in goal, Dubnyk’s kid brother?

  132. OilClog says:

    Numenius,

    Whatever you’re smoking.. Share.

  133. Numenius says:

    hunter1909: How about we simply agree: Petrell’s not good enough at playing hockey to be in the NHL.

    Can’t argue there. It may be too that I’ve just been underwhelmed with Jones since he’s come back.

    Smarmy,

    Any measure? When/If Petrell uses his size properly he’s better at that.

  134. OilClog says:

    Yakupov coming down the wing with brown… Wait.. Wtf?!?!… Drinks another

  135. hunter1909 says:

    That 2 goal lead, they say it’s the worst lead in hockey lol.

  136. hunter1909 says:

    “Trading Smid will send a message.” MacT

  137. Lowetide says:

    6-5 now, man this game feels like it’s been the entire day. I have a feeling the Oilers need one more goal, but the ice is slanted now and Danis is under fire.

  138. FastOil says:

    Not able to watch the game but one of Horcoff or Brown seems to have made a huge difference. I’m thinkin’ Brown.

  139. hunter1909 says:

    Good thing Petrell’s out there. I didn’t want to have to start thinking the Oilers are going to win tonight or anything.

  140. Smarmy says:

    Pat Kane getting punched in the face makes me happy. Probably makes cab drivers everywhere happy.

  141. FastOil says:

    Impatient – oops!

  142. BlacqueJacque says:

    Lowetide:
    6-5 now, man this game feels like it’s been the entire day. I have a feeling the Oilers need one more goal, but the ice is slanted now and Danis is under fire.

    If the Oilers win this game while being outplayed, it’ll put off the #firelowe voices for only a while.

    If they deservedly lose, we may hope for a resolution of the management problem this season, perhaps.

    I don’t foresee a scenario where the Oilers outplay the Hawks the rest of the game.

  143. cabbiesmacker says:

    Smarmy:
    Pat Kane getting punched in the face makes me happy. Probably makes cab drivers everywhere happy.

    Heyyyyy.

  144. crude says:

    Who was it who opted not pressure Bolland on that PK there?

  145. cabbiesmacker says:

    hunter1909:
    Good thing Petrell’s out there. I didn’t want to have to start thinking the Oilers are going to win tonight or anything.

    Got a double bagger ready?

  146. hunter1909 says:

    FastOil: Not able to watch the game but one of Horcoff or Brown seems to have made a huge difference. I’m thinkin’ Brown.

    I just saw Horcoff make a nice responsible play that, if they hadn’t given him a 457,000,000.00 contract with the rest of his life as a guaranteed member of the team, plus captaincy, plus top 6 status+powerplays…

    I’d have him play on the 3rd line for 2 million a year. Otherwise, bye bye as Cyrus would say.

  147. Lowetide says:

    Maybe they’re showcasing Petrell? He’s played more than 8 other forwards by my count, including all the good ones.

  148. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide: Maybe they’re showcasing Petrell?

    You serious?

  149. OilClog says:

    Petrell with Tavares!

    Petrell for Niño.. Make it so!

  150. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers look terrified!

  151. ashley says:

    Those Chicago fans are sure having fun. If this is what we can expect in a few more years with the “Chicago model” rebuild, I’d be okay with that.

  152. tcho says:

    3-1, no shot. :-(

  153. Smarmy says:

    ashley:
    Those Chicago fans are sure having fun.If this is what we can expect in a few more years with the “Chicago model” rebuild, I’d be okay with that.

    Uh yeah about that model. We’re uh not doing that.

  154. Smarmy says:

    That three on one sort of blew. Tay tay should have shot as even he has scored in this game.

  155. OilClog says:

    What kind of penalty is that?!?!

  156. tcho says:

    If PK was a special team like in football, where that was the only time those players would see the ice, I’d be okay with Petrell actually.

  157. hunter1909 says:

    Gagner just took something painful.

  158. Lowetide says:

    hunter1909: You serious?

    Only reason I can think of for all these minutes by Petrell.

  159. Smarmy says:

    tcho:
    If PK was a special team like in football, where that was the only time those players would see the ice, I’d be okay with Petrell actually.

    A coach could do this sort of thing if they wanted to roll 7 dmen, 4 centers and 1 winger with the extra winger and dman being special teams guys.

  160. hunter1909 says:

    This has the 2006 finals 1st game feeling all over it.

  161. Smarmy says:

    hunter1909:
    This has the 2006 finals 1st game feeling all over it.

    Then where’s my Ladi Smid penalty shot goal?

  162. "Steve Smith" says:

    Is Floyd Whitney in the building?

  163. Lowetide says:

    “Steve Smith”:
    Is Floyd Whitney in the building?

    Man. I assume Horcoff is the third goalie?

  164. hunter1909 says:

    Nice to see the refs taking charge of a game that with over 4:00 left could still escalate dangerously out of hand, even if the last one was bullshit.

  165. Rebilled says:

    Who’s our third back-up?

    Put the pads on #94!

  166. VanOil says:

    What is the over/under on there being no more goals in this game?

  167. "Steve Smith" says:

    VanOil,

    I’m not sure that “over/under” means what you think that it means.

  168. hunter1909 says:

    One day Horcoff isn’t on the powerplay with under 5:00 remaining in any game scenario imaginable.

  169. fuzzy muppet says:

    Has Yak even seen a shift this period??

  170. hunter1909 says:

    Hemsky just made an uber play; chasing Kane from end to end then interfering with Pat’s stick just as he was looking dangerous.

  171. nelson88 says:

    didn’t the oilers go big game hunting for hossa? man, that guy is good.

  172. LMHF#1 says:

    Horcoff has to score there.

  173. hunter1909 says:

    Lots of nice, slim women in Chicago that enjoy hockey.

  174. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Nice battle by Danis tonight. Hawks were coming hard at him all night.

  175. Rebilled says:

    Christ Punchers!

  176. leadfarmer says:

    fuzzy muppet,

    Yak is absolutely lost out there and has been for some time. He can sit in a close game in the 3rd.

  177. LMHF#1 says:

    Incredibly dumb sitting as many guys as Krueger did. He wore them out and they barely survived.

    Credit to the guys for hanging in there.

  178. hunter1909 says:

    Broke Chicago’s hearts. If only these twits could make the playoffs. With Corey Potter, and Lennart Petrell in the lineup? Not likely.

  179. "Steve Smith" says:

    That was fun. Probably not deserved, but fun.

  180. "Steve Smith" says:

    hunter1909:
    Broke Chicago’s hearts. If only these twits could make the playoffs. With Corey Potter, and Lennart Petrell in the lineup? Not likely.

    Your silence on Horcoff disappoints me.

  181. leadfarmer says:

    That was nice of Chicago to spot us a 4 goal lead. Other teams should take note.

  182. Gret99zky says:

    To be the best, you have to beat the best.

    We beat the best. Which makes us the best now.

    Suck it, NHL.

  183. Numenius says:

    Nice work by Horcoff to tie the puck up at the end there.

  184. Woodguy says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    delooper,

    I think WG’s got a couple units on an Oiler win, with long odds to boot.

    I do.

    Also,

    RK swapped 64 and 37.

    Can’t say I’d ever agree to that.

    Also,

    83 had a great defensive game.

    Broke up the cycle and turned the puck north like he can often.

    When his give a shit meter is high, he’s amazing.

  185. Minister D- says:

    Well, the Oil didn’t deserve that one. At least it was entertaining.

  186. VanOil says:

    That was entertaining. DD being out for any length of time will be ugly.

  187. uni says:

    hunter1909:
    Hemsky just made an uber play; chasing Kane from end to end then interfering with Pat’s stick just as he was looking dangerous.

    But he’s a soft Euro, no grit, bad body language, they’ve been a last place hockey team with him etc.

  188. OilClog says:

    I’m confused as to what Yakupov did to deserve the benching.. Petrell is a dead zone, only reason he’s any good on the pk is because he never plays with the puck, very accustomed to standing there and whackin at it as the puck passes by. I didn’t see him clear the puck once in the 3rd, well maybe once he did but I know I probably need two hands to count how many times he didn’t clear it out.

  189. Lowetide says:

    I have to say that was an emotional game for me. I didn’t think it would be, I’ve been distancing myself from this team (hey, I’m old!) because it’s painful to watch another drive for #1 overall again.

    But this was pure fun. For those who are younger, that was 1985 on a really good night. Most nights the Oilers toyed with their opponent, but sometimes you’d get one like this game.

  190. uni says:

    VanOil:
    That was entertaining. DD being out for any length of time will be ugly.

    As opposed to the last 4 games we’ve been treated to? Or the last 5 seasons?

  191. cabbiesmacker says:

    ashley:

    Wasn’t this Saad guy available at #31 in the Pitlick draft?It would seem that he would have been the guy to reach for if the Oilers had been into coke machines with skill like they currently seem to be.Vs Moroz, Saad looks like he’s an actual NHL player. A day late, a dollar short.

    It’s a shame Pitlick hasn’t worked out yet.It looked like a good pick draft day.

    Saad was drafted in 2011 Ashley.

    Maybe Musil you were thinking of.

  192. Gerta Rauss says:

    Well we played another nice 20 minutes tonight-we’re lucky we got enough done in that time. That game felt like in started 6 or 7 hours ago.

  193. Numenius says:

    Weird that the two last place teams in the West (at least as of earlier today) were the first two to beat Chicago.

  194. Lowetide says:

    “We took a lot of pride in how we came out in this game. To come out and get a win against a team like that, we’re very proud.” – Hall

  195. hunter1909 says:

    uni: But he’s a soft Euro, no grit, bad body language, they’ve been a last place hockey team with him etc.

    Aw, Hemsky’s just like me – he wants to kill everyone running the team too.

  196. tcho says:

    Sure hope 40 isn’t badly hurt.

  197. Lois Lowe says:

    The Oilers won so that’s exciting. They are still a bad hockey team and the rebuild is still going to stretch on into eternity.

  198. hunter1909 says:

    Lois Lowe:
    The Oilers won so that’s exciting. They are still a bad hockey team and the rebuild is still going to stretch on into eternity.

    Thank fuck someone’s here to restore common sense. I was almost in a good mood again.

  199. Lowetide says:

    “We gave up some goals that aren’t acceptable but with a win you’ve got something to build on.” – Krueger

  200. Lowetide says:

    “It was a safety issue with Devan Dubnyk. We don’t have a head injury. We’ll know more in the morning but Devan seemed fine.” Ralph Krueger

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