OILERS AT BLUES G20 (12-13) 1.3.13

It’s a little strange writing a GDT where there’s nothing to ponder or worry over. I mean, where’s the angst? Even the fretful stuff isn’t really, RNH will score another goal in my lifetime and Devan Dubnyk’s EV SP will improve as his PP SP wanders down from the top of the mountain (currently 3rd in the NHL).

hemsky5

Hemsky looks like he’s been shot out of a cannon lately on those right side sorties, it’s a thing of beauty. I don’t really know how they can use the neutral zone better than that Gagner pass I keep talking about earlier in the season, but maybe they should try it once a period? It seems like a killer counter trey and I’m quite certain it is unstoppable if they don’t bugger the exchange. Hemsky is going to get a good chance.

The Nuge is in a slump and is probably hurt, but that said man he’s a terrific young hockey player. He does dozens of cool things every game. I love watching him win battles and bother on the forecheck. Wonderful.

Taylor Hall is such fun to watch. The late 5 on 3 was like a war zone and Hall (now taking some reps on D during the PP) was all over it. Michael Parkatti’s numbers show Hall’s line is still murdering opposition with his friends Nuge and Ebs. The 89-83 disconnect continues, as they pile up points while getting killed in SF/SA. It’s like the hockey Gods are toying with math and mean. STOP IT!

  • Jim Matheson: The Oilers did put in a waiver claim on Vancouver Canucks roughhouse winger Aaron Volpatti, but the Washington Capitals got to him first.

This confirms the Oilers are looking for a Coke Machine. Only a matter of time, could happen today. Bye, Magnus. I think the Oilers must have some gremlin who walks the halls screaming “we need more grit, they’re running our show” and as an advertising person I can tell you repeating the message is very effective in terms of swaying decisions.

Ralph Krueger, Craig MacTavish and our friend reason must find that gremlin and stop him at all costs. I bet they come home with a Coke Machine.

standingsmar

What a crazy NW division. The difference from 1st to 5th place is 6 points and that’s not a lot my friends. The Oilers are within screaming distance of first place, and are not far from what was considered a hot start one year ago. I think that’s a major item we aren’t talking about: expectations have increased (as they should) and we tend to look at things with a more critical eye. If the Oilers can win tonight, and post another 22 points in their second twenty games, they’ll be at the 44 point mark with 8 games to play. Win 5 of those and the playoffs are possible.

Jordan Eberle is right on track in terms of RE

keane

 

I sincerely hope all those old timey Dallas Stars were in town last night to enjoy the game. If I knew Mike Keane’s email address I’d send him the boxscore. Go home, Keane!

Oh, one final thing. The Oilers may put in a waiver claim today on Tom Sestito, a Coke Machine (6.05, 228) drafted by Columbus in the third round in 2006.

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  1. Woodguy says:

    It’s a little strange writing a GDT where there’s nothing to ponder or worry over. I mean, where’s the angst?

    WHY ISN’T PAAJARVI PLAYING!??!?!?

    THEY’RE WASTING HIM!!!!

    You’re welcome.

  2. Woodguy says:

    The 89-83 disconnect continues, as they pile up points while getting killed in SF/SA. It’s like the hockey Gods are toying with math and mean. STOP IT!

    PUT PAAJARVI ON THAT LINE DAMMIT!!!

    *angst*

  3. Lowetide says:

    Oh, Woodguy. Where would they play Ryan Jones?

  4. gangplank says:

    Woodguy,

    Also why no Yak on 5 on 3? best shot on the team

  5. gangplank says:

    Lowetide,

    3rd line instead of petrell

  6. Woodguy says:

    This game is winnable.

    Not as winnable as last night, but winnable for one reason.

    Goaltending.

    The Blues total shot attempts will dwarf the Oilers, probably at least twice as many attempts, maybe more.

    Oilers were out attempted last night 51-34 and STL are much better than DAL.

    STL is actually playing better this year than last year. Their goaltending has fallen off a cliff.

    Goals per game:
    11/12 2.51
    12/13 2.79

    Goals against per game:
    11/12 1.89
    12/13 2.84

    Shots per game:
    11/12 30.6
    12/13 28.3

    Shots against per game
    11/12 26.7
    12/13 22.9

    Shot differential
    11/12 +3.9
    12/13 +5.4

    Goalies can make or break coaches and teams.

    STL SV%
    11/12
    Halak .926
    Elliott .940

    12/13
    Halak .904
    Elliott .849
    Allen .895

    Just putrid this year.

    Halak played last night and Elliott backed him up.

    If the hockey gods are smiling then Elliott starts tonight and the Oilers have a chance to steal one.

    Halak starts and that road gets much steeper.

    Whitney probably plays for Potter tonight.

    This might look really ugly and unless DD is the mountain he can be.

    God I hope RK takes his head out of his ass and plays 91.

    GO OILERS!!

    *clap, clap*

  7. tcho says:

    Well, I’m still concerned about defensive zone coverage and exits, as well as the fact that, other than the 1st line, math does not suggest good things about the team… but lots of good in there too! Now, imagine if we had a GM team that could actually win (not just move sideways) on a trade or two?

    Goilers!

    *clapclap*

  8. 42 percent body fat says:

    I cant believe people are saying Benn should not be suspended for that cross check, and that it happens all the time in front of the net.

    1. In front of the net it actually has to do with the game and it is expected to happen. Awareness is there.

    2. In front of the net it is split second decisions, usually more to do with clearing the players and not intent to injure.

    Now no matter how viscous the cross check was and hits that have suspension with them may have been worse (ie. Hall), this was clearly planned out, had nothing to do with the game and was intent to injure.

    This is where Shanahan needs to send a message. Tough hockey is what made me love it. Even with all of the cheap hits last night that has to do with playing the hockey game. But the intention was clear, Benn was out to hurt him.

  9. mumbai max says:

    I do not get it. Would Sestito be a real upgrade on Hordichuk who the Oil are already
    paying? With Horcoff coming back, we can demote VDV and have decent forward quality and depth.
    Why screw it up with a CM?

  10. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide:
    Oh, Woodguy. Where would they play Ryan Jones?

    4-93-14
    91-89-83
    94-20-28
    55-54-64

    Putting rookies on the 4th line and out of harms way isn’t the heinous crime too many people in this town make it out to be.

    The whole ‘IF HE’S NOT PLAYING TOP 6 HE SHOULD BE IN THE AHL” is the worst meme to take over how to develop hockey players.

    The AHL to NHL jump is massive.

    4th line play and being moved up as you can handle it isn’t nearly the shock.

    Give 64 all the PP time he can eat (especially 5v3 WTF?) and move him up the line up as you can.

    Edit: I know 64 can’t go the AHL, but people say it about 91 and 56 all the time and its not smart.

  11. jonrmcleod says:

    Woodguy,

    This morning on Twitter, Spector made some strange statements about Europeans in checking roles. It seems that he would prefer North Americans on his third line.

  12. Woodguy says:

    Oh, one final thing. The Oilers may put in a waiver claim today on Tom Sestito, a Coke Machine (6.05, 228) drafted by Columbus in the third round in 2006.

    Yes, that’s exactly what they need.

    Another player who’s not good at hockey and will get grossly out shot every game.

    Can never get enough of those.

  13. BlacqueJacque says:

    Lowetide,

    Woodguy,

    Sounds like a team in need of some good goaltending Khabits.

  14. Lucinius says:

    Yes, but Spector is an idiot.

    Paajarvi should be playing. He’d been doing well and got sat. The guy is probably confused as hell. He’s better than Petrell and Jones, yet sits for both.

    He did good things to that second line in his brief cameo there. Its like they want that second line getting out-shot. Idiocy. But, since we won apparently all is good in the world. Play Paajarvi on that second line (Yak can slide up onto it if needed), throw Jones down onto the third line with Smytty and Belanger. Drop Petrell, or swap him to left side and drop Eager from the fourth line and into the press box.

    The city, its media and the organization have this idiotic thing where you’re only allowed one skilled Euro (Hemsky), and that’s only because he gets results and sells tickets.

  15. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide: This confirms the Oilers are looking for a Coke Machine. Only a matter of time, could happen today. Bye, Magnus. I think the Oilers must have some gremlin who walks the halls screaming “we need more grit, they’re running our show” and as an advertising person I can tell you repeating the message is very effective in terms of swaying decisions.

    Ralph Krueger, Craig MacTavish and our friend reason must find that gremlin and stop him at all costs. I bet they come home with a Coke Machine.

    We’ve all been there.

    You’re in a store (you’re not sure why, what they sell, or whether you need any of it),

    there’s a sale on (you’re not really sure if it’s a big one or not, or how much these things are actually worth anyway),

    people are madly grabbing at merchandise (you’re not sure who these people are, they don’t look familiar, or part of your historical circles of influence and yet, they seem to know something. You suspect their behavior must be instructive. The fact that you feel so unfamiliar with your surroundings and company compounds a budding sense within you that you must join the herd… they know something!),

    slowly, the environment takes hold of you, you casually pick up a box of something amidst a collection of hands clawing at the same display of goods, pawing your hands and shirt cuffs in the same action (you’re overcome by alternating feelings of disgust and attraction at the scene you gradually become a part of. The object, now semi-secured in your hands, becomes precious to you),

    … … …

    you return home, gather the family and display your prizes across the dining room table (you feel an overwhelming sense of accomplishment concerning your bounty and savings),

    you are greeted by a series of vacant and bemused glares and the wife mumbles something under her breath that sounds distinctly like, “you’re … idiot,” (your feelings of pride and victory ebb sharply, you cast a suddenly wary eye towards your prizes and you feel your moral character hollowing),

    the family unceremoniously shuffles out of the room, you are alone with your prizes (you feel shame).

    what have you bought?

    who even knows.

  16. Radman says:

    Not sure how Sestito qualifies as functional toughness. Missing the functional part. Just a bigger Hordi me thinks.

    Hard to see Benn’s blindsider on Jones as anything but that. Away from the play, not in front of the net. He just came off the bench as well. Enjoy the physical part of hockey, like Fistric sticking up for Nuge. Hard to defend a cheap hit from behind with intent to injure like that. Over to you Shanny.

  17. Oilanderp says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    It’s early but, hell, I’ll take a few drops of that on my sugarcube too please!

  18. RMGS says:

    “It’s a little strange writing a GDT where there’s nothing to ponder or worry over. I mean, where’s the angst? ”

    Ok, has my Yakupov bias blinded me, or did he not score off the one-timer just before Hemsky’s beauty? I swear that puck went in, but none of the recaps mention it. Only Oilers official Twitter made mention of it during the game:

    “Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers #OILERS GOAL! Both Yakupov and Hemsky have scored on the power play, but looks like Hemsky’s will be the one that counts, 4-0!

    Yakupov one-timer appears to hit the back bar, no goal called, but Hemsky follows it up with a PP snipe for his 8th of the season.”

    ~Why the anti-Nail conspiracy!~

  19. spoiler says:

    Why does no one tell me when it’s Acid Friday?

    Where’s the photo of Grebs?

    I’m too old to drop acid… What do old men do instead?

  20. mattwatt says:

    I am starting to wonder if Eddie Vedder did not write “Black” to describe Paarjarvi’s future with the Edmonton Oilers.

    “I know someday you’ll have a beautiful life,
    I know you’ll be a star in somebody else’s sky,
    But why, why, why can’t it be, can’t it be mine?”

    I like Ryan Jones. Hell, don’t even mind Eager. But neither of them can contribute to a hockey game like Paarjarvi can. Eager, for his size, speed and shot cannot think the well and has extreme difficulty making the right play. Jones just doen’t have the skill that Paarjarvi does. Perfect example was on a Stars scoring chance last night Jones tried taking Gagner’s pass along the boards and continue it to Hemsky, but flubbed the puck (and look awkward doing it) resulting in the Stars going the other way. Jones is a player, and I think he helps the Oilers, but he is not a magical elixir that cures all ills with the team. Paarjarvi just serves the club better, and is a better player. Yet we wait for him to leave town.

    It is too bad. Kid can play. Just not in the eyes of the Oilers.

  21. jonrmcleod says:

    I’m confused. Why is there a picture at the top of the post of the Oilers playing the Kings? Am I missing something?

  22. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    So, what’s the word on 56 anyway? And, are these CM waivers to replace him or 16?

    Also, 91 needs to play and adding another plugger to the lists isn’t much of a solution to anything.

    Real NHLers please!

    ps. fix that 5-3… with 64. should be obvious.

  23. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    jonrmcleod:
    I’m confused. Why is there a picture at the top of the post of the Oilers playing the Kings? Am I missing something?

    He’s got the blues underneath… the relation between the two seems to be 83 who LT is also discussing.

    speaking of which… 83-89 are having the weirdest year of their career in terms of fan perception.

    the average fan is probably missing the underlying numbers game and saying “finally they are scoring”

    whereas the more critical fan is happy with the scoring but terrified by the sudden turn in the underlying numbers and the unsustainable scoring

    a weird inversion.

  24. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Radman: Hard to see Benn’s blindsider on Jones as anything but that. Away from the play, not in front of the net. He just came off the bench as well. Enjoy the physical part of hockey, like Fistric sticking up for Nuge. Hard to defend a cheap hit from behind with intent to injure like that. Over to you Shanny.

    He should get at least a game. But, I predict Shanahan will barely bat an eye and move on. Same with Nystrom. I also expect Fraser to say something asinine at tsn about the game.

    RMGS: “Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers #OILERS GOAL! Both Yakupov and Hemsky have scored on the power play, but looks like Hemsky’s will be the one that counts, 4-0!

    My feed went out right before the 3rd started, so I missed the Hemsky goal… is there video of the Yak “goal”?

    mattwatt: Jones just doen’t have the skill that Paarjarvi does. Perfect example was on a Stars scoring chance last night Jones tried taking Gagner’s pass along the boards and continue it to Hemsky, but flubbed the puck

    At another point in the game he was cherry picking and flubbed a beauty pass that would have led to a breakaway, instead it led to an icing call.

    his hands are an upgrade on 55, but that’s not saying much.

  25. pboy says:

    Tim Sestito was drafted by Doug Maclean. Pass.

  26. hunter1909 says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: the average fan

    Romulus Apotheosis: the more critical fan

    lol wut.

    I envy non-fans myself.

  27. Jon K says:

    The return of Hall from suspension and Jones from injury might be the turning point that we discuss looking back on this season.

    For all the crap Jones gets, deservedly or not, it’s hard to deny that he fills a role on this Oilers team which is sorely needed. It might be hard to prove value in his physical, agitating style of play, but I would respectfully suggest that his willingness to fight in front of the net is something missing previously from the Oilers’ top six forwards.

    JW had an article up this week about size in the top six for recent cup contenders. While the results were ultimately mixed, as you would expect, they still seem to suggest that you need at least one “big” guy on each line in your top six:

    http://oilersnation.com/2013/2/28/size-and-the-stanley-cup-finals

    The only line in his chart that doesn’t have at least one 200+ lb guy is the Sedin line, and I think we can reasonably agree that the pisscutters are an exception and not the norm. They protect the puck and cycle like guys much bigger than they actually are.

    Anyway, fun game last night. Heard the radio ad this morning on 1260 LT. Lowetide at High Noon is a way better name than any of us came up with this week. ;)

  28. goldenchild says:

    Lucinius: Yes, but Spector is an idiot.</PThe city, its media and the organization have this idiotic thing where you’re only allowed one skilled Euro (Hemsky), and that’s only because he gets results and sells tickets.

    They all tried top get him run out of town last year and all offseason too. Im sure if he goes into a slump for a couple of weeks, Rishaug and the rest of them will be all on the he’s soft, bady body language, he doesnt practice after practice meme again.

    I try to stay Spector free as much as possible and am only exposed when Willis RTs him. Honest to god how the fuck is this guy given a platform to discuss the NHL. Its painful to hear that level of ignorance and stupidity, its like when the dumbest guy in your HS class put up his hand to answer a question. Fucking painful.

    As much as I would like to think that RK is different and doesn’t want top put bad hockey players out there to play hockey, the Paajarvi stuff is puzzling. I dont know if its Tambellini or what but it doesnt make any sense to bury that kid in favor of coke machines that dont impact the game in any positve way.

    This also highlights the problem with a MSM that is clueless, earlier this season we heard RK bring up shots for and against and scoring chances when discussing the top line but there is nobody with a mic smart enough to bring those topics up to challenge RK on benching Paajarvi.
    IF RK values what those stats represent and it seems that he does, then why is he chosing to play guys over 91 when he is outperforming them by the metrics RK values? Will any of those guys ask him that?

    Oh and 1 more thing, Fuck you Dallas! That was a long time coming.

  29. Нинтендо⁶⁴ says:

    “Yakupov one-timer appears to hit the back bar, no goal called, but Hemsky follows it up with a PP snipe for his 8th of the season.”

    RMGS,

    Thought the same watching live, but there was no replay.

    Wonder if anyone has broken down video to see?

  30. LMHF#1 says:

    I was also going to rant about no Yakupov during the key 5-on-3 when they were up 2-0. It is nearly certifiable to not have him standing there in the slot/top-of-the-circle just waiting to rip one.

  31. Нинтендо⁶⁴ says:

    “Lowetide at High Noon is a way better name than any of us came up with this week.”

    Jon K,

    LT is covering big-wave surfing now? That’s even wilder than covering Columbus.

    http://www.amazon.com/Mavericks-High-Noon-Low-Tide/dp/B000N30ATU

  32. Bar_Qu says:

    hunter1909:
    lol wut.

    I envy non-fans myself.

    I found that statement kinda funny myself. What was it mc79 said the other day? We tend to underestimate luck as a factor in the game (paraphrase) – Hemsky and Gagner look good/great in part because they are getting lucky with the puck, while RNH only looks good because he is not getting the bounces. Historically this is not 83-89′s type of game, so I plan to enjoy it while it lasts (hopefully all of this truncated season). I don’t need math to ruin it, I can enjoy it plenty by eye.

    Volpatti>Sestito. Both of whom are <Hartikainen/Paajarvi/Jones/NHL players. There is a reason they were waived from their teams.

  33. bookje says:

    Interesting that the Oilers won so many draws last night. Is it an anomaly or did RK motivationally speak to the Oilers sticks? Given the absolutely terrible support from the wingers on faceoffs over the last 3 or so years, I suspect someone may have actually told them that it is their job to get the puck after messy faceoffs.

    I love this side of bi-polar Oiler fandom. Dismantle Dallas with the bounces going the Oilers way and all is beautiful in the world. Even Woodguy seems to be a little jovial in his criticism (accurate criticism I would add). The Oilers did not get many lucky bounces over the past three weeks, so it was nice to see some of them yesterday. Let’s hope the hockey gods continue to be on their side tonight. As WG notes, ST.L goaltending may help that along a bit.

  34. bookje says:

    Нинтендо⁶⁴:
    “Yakupov one-timer appears to hit the back bar, no goal called, but Hemsky follows it up with a PP snipe for his 8th of the season.”

    RMGS,

    Thought the same watching live, but there was no replay.

    Wonder if anyone has broken down video to see?

    Watching the replay on the Oilers site (they cover it in the Hemsky goal hi-light), it looks as though it hits the crossbar.

  35. jake70 says:

    Angst – Can’t remember, did the Oil score on any 5 on 3 time? If not, disturbing.

  36. DeadmanWaking says:

    At SCS, our most likely playoff positions are 3rd (9%) and 8th (9%). Finishing eight wins us a trip to Chicago: the moral of four whippings behind the woodshed, but you get to collect half the gate.

    I was going to go with a boxing metaphor, but I found this instead: Iowa State – Oklahoma

    We might feel that way about Dallas, but as of last night that’s ancient history. We’re fish food in a bigger pond now.

    I must say I’m getting a special pleasure these days out of Bruce’s game summaries over at Cult. He seems to have suffered a mid-season stroke (or at least a strike-through cluster). I highly approve.

    I noticed LT apologizing to the ladies for a choice remark. Yesterday I viewed several episodes of Actors’ Studio on YouTube (the possessive plural seems to confuse them or offend their sense of style–man it must suck writing for Hollywood). It’s a tradition to ask certain questions in every interview, and one of these questions is “Favourite swear word?” Julianne Moore ponied up for sockcrusher and feathermucker (not as rendered). Two for the price of one. She’s versatile. Personally, I don’t think we should curse by things we’re keen to kiss (this being the double standard we’re least keen to contemplate); in any case, this lets Julianne off the hook, so far as I know.

    From a safe remove I tend toward the comic amalgams: cluster-muck, circle-perk, and metric buck tonne. This last one was nearly literal when I mowed by back yard a week ago: a metric buck tonne hit the blades from the two bucks who designated our back yard their primary alternate bedroom for most of the winter (the neighbor to the south being bedroom incumbent–from which vantage point they chewed and stared and wondered why we shivered so much in our unheated sunroom).

    Between me and my keyboard with no one around, when some badly designed website 404s a form I painfully completed my for-business profanity tilts toward the profane: JHFC! I break things less often since I moved to the glass-topped desk. Those little wooden dowels that hold cheap particle board desks together: torn clean through. Microsoft Visual Source Safe, late 1990s. I didn’t really want to use Visual Studio, but the project required it, and I figured that Source Safe couldn’t be worse than having no backups at all. Boy was I ever wrong. Replacing the desk was the least inconvenience. (Microsoft was practically daring Apple to eat their lunch. As it eventually played out, mission accomplished.) If good old BG had been standing three feet from the glass, I’d have been arguing with the rink maintenance staff: “Well, yes, the Zamboni is big enough, but haven’t you got anything faster? You know, like a locomotive with JATO rockets, or something refurbished from the Apollo program.” Microsoft was in their dotcom nova phase where they claimed to implement any software feature that continued to vaguely appear to work longer than a harried journalist would test it to make a three-day deadline on a fifteen package head-to-head.

    Apparently, if you played your cards right, you could pass this happy works-briefly state of affairs down the line to your clients, and make good coin doing so. Foolishly, I misapplied myself into concussing my desk–achieving in the span of about 50ms the complete inhibition of self-preservation that otherwise takes a decade to master in a fancy karate school amid many polite bows.

    From a Jason Gregor blurb: “When I save a calf’s life, it’s strange to think that if I wasn’t here this living thing wouldn’t have survived.” I’ve often found that the people most likely to save an animal are the least likely to protest cross-checking thugs; PETA types and card carrying members of the holy order Humans Without Halos. I’ve never been on board with this kind of karmic pass-me-down or come-around concerning my fellow man or any other animal. Intent to injure is intent to injure.

  37. LMHF#1 says:

    Bar_Qu: I found that statement kinda funny myself. What was it mc79 said the other day? We tend to underestimate luck as a factor in the game (paraphrase) – Hemsky and Gagner look good/great in part because they are getting lucky with the puck, while RNH only looks good because he is not getting the bounces.

    Just because he can’t explain it doesn’t make it luck. Cop out. Also, they’re only “getting slaughtered” as it were, by the particular metrics being discussed. Not questioning the meaning (if anything more than what it literally tracks) of the metrics is a mistake. Correlations, correlations everywhere but let’s find a cause. I’m going to suggest strongly it could easily be found in the video.

    And most of Hopkins’ problem is because he keeps missing the damn net. Much like Hall firing everything high and wide not that long ago. 93′s got to work on that and quite possibly go to new lumber.

  38. LMHF#1 says:

    bookje:
    Interesting that the Oilers won so many draws last night.Is it an anomaly or did RK motivationally speak to the Oilers sticks?Given the absolutely terrible support from the wingers on faceoffs over the last 3 or so years, I suspect someone may have actually told them that it is their job to get the puck after messy faceoffs.

    A couple of the C’s were trying a different approach. The wingers seemed to have an altered role as well. Noticed it most on some of the wins where it was clear Hemsky was instructed to crash towards the dot as soon as the puck was dropped.

  39. Woodguy says:

    jonrmcleod:
    Woodguy,

    This morning on Twitter, Spector made some strange statements about Europeans in checking roles. It seems that he would prefer North Americans on his third line.

    Yeah, its not like Jiri Lehtonen ever won the Selke.

    Oh wait,

  40. Woodguy says:

    spoiler:
    Why does no one tell me when it’s Acid Friday?

    Where’s the photo of Grebs?

    I’m too old to drop acid… What do old men do instead?

    Whiskey and lots of it.

  41. GordM says:

    Very funny if true. Reporter believes O’Reilly would have had to clear waivers if RFA offer sheet was not matched. COL would have the picks, CLB could pick up O’Reilly, Feaster fired:

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2013/03/01/calgary_flames_fortunate_colorado_avalanche_match_ryan_oreilly/

  42. jimbones100 says:

    Lowetide,

    I thought Jones was very effective last night on the 2nd line. He was excellent in winning puck battles on the forecheck and went to the net very well. Did you see something I did not?

    Also I too would like to see 91 play and do well but why are we oppossed to seeing a good prospect get additional developmental time in the AHL? We have been requesting more depth on the team to allow our prospects to develop and now that we have it I am confused with the complaints?

    I don’t believe you can make a strong case that 91 or Ladner has excelled at the AHL level and need tobe promoted. In fact I will make the argument that the best thing for the entire Nordic line is to play big minutes in the AHL.

    Woodguy/Lowetide can you help me understand?

  43. OilClog says:

    The more the Eager of late shows up.. the less sense it makes to find a coke machine. Eager is finally starting to seem like the crazy nut that we originally thought was coming. I loved every bit of his game last night, I can’t remember the last time an Oiler gave Morrow a friendly hug and conversation, that didn’t result in Morrow immediately begin to pound the guy. Intimidation?!?! what is happening..

    Oilers win 5-2, Chicago gave them the confidence they needed.

  44. RMGS says:

    bookje: Watching the replay on the Oilers site (they cover it in the Hemsky goal hi-light), it looks as though it hits the crossbar.

    Нинтендо⁶⁴,

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    I watched the replay on the on-demand stream and I see it going off the back centre bar then off Lehtonen (took a screen shot but can’t post it here). Conspiracy! LOL!

  45. Clay says:

    If Shannahan doesn’t give Benn at least 1 game, that’s a dangerous precedent to set.

    In effect, he’d be saying that it’s not ok to come off the bench just to go punch someone (the recent two game suspension to Clowe), but it’s perfectly fine to come off the bench and use a weapon to cheap-shot someone from behind?

    Oh, wait, this is the NHL. It doesn’t have to make sense.

    Man, I hope last night represented some sort of corner they’ve turned. Two of the four 5v5 goals were of the smiling hockey gods variety, but two weren’t. And Nuge and Hall have yet to really break out.

    Goilers!

  46. wheatnoil says:

    This team has only won two games in a row once so far this season. At the end of the day, if this team wants to make the playoffs, it has start putting wins together. Doesn’t matter if it’s a road trip or not. Hell, with 3 points in 2 games on this road trip, the Oilers have almost matched the total number of points they got in the entire 5 game homestead preceding this.

    Personally, I’d like to see Paajarvi draw back into the line-up (ideally on the second line). I’d also like to buy Tambellini a novelty tee-shirt that says “No Coke Machines” in the same font as some obnoxious shirts say “No Fatties”. However, when it comes down to it, this team has to find a way to win regardless of minor line-up changes. Getting a win in Dallas does not give the team the ability to take it easy the next game and not learn from its mistakes. There are still significant deficiencies in the roster and in the way the Oilers play, including (but not limited to) defensive zone break-outs, sustained offensive pressure (first line excluded), and avoiding stupid penalties. If they can’t correct at least ONE of these three concerns, then it will take a good amount of luck to make it into the playoffs.

  47. bookje says:

    GordM:
    Very funny if true.Reporter believes O’Reilly would have had to clear waivers if RFA offer sheet was not matched.COL would have the picks, CLB could pick up O’Reilly, Feaster fired:

    I don’t believe that is the case. Under the old CBA that was not the case so unless something has changed it is probably a mis-interpretation.

    Edit – OK, after looking at the article, I am far less certain. Damn, I wish that would have happened.

  48. denny33 says:

    Lowetide,

    I could be wrong – but there seems to be a small disconnect between people’s attitude on RK – which I deem to be generally positive – versus his decision making vis-a-vis MPS.

    I respect everyone’s opinion on MPS and I know he is adored in this setting…

    Again, I am no fan of Petrell – but last night he just matched the Entire output of MPS in one night.

    MPS is one of the most awkward players I have seen in a long time. ( Mats Lindgren anyone ? )

    He has been asked to switch to a defensive role because he has no offensive instincts at all…Zero.None. Zip.

    He has zero hockey sense. Never seen a guy over-skate the puck so much. Or recover it from between his skates.

    He falls to the ice a lot – reminds me of Mark Scheifle here in Winnipeg ( young Bambi ) . He is trying to be physical but it is simply not in his nature, And you can tell.

    I realize he he is trying hard and he is very focused on being the 3rd guy high…and maybe there is a role for that kind of guy but he is turning 22. I just don’t know what people see in him.

    Tangent – Chris Vandevlde

    My two cents – and I know Horcoff is injured – but #54 stands out as having no discernible skills qualified for the NHL. In my opinion, very few teams in the NHL would ice a Vandevlde . Just happy when he can get it to the red line.

    Winnipeg Jets are not a good team but they picked up 6’4 200 pound 4th line centre – James Wright.
    off waivers and he is not flashy at all. But his size and ability have been a pleasant surprise. He wins puck battles along the boards. ( James Wright is Canadian who played in the ‘W’ )

    Again, I realize I am swimming against the tide here. But I would submit RK is obviously seeing something in MPS game he does not like.

  49. bookje says:

    denny33,

    I give RK some leeway here because MPS is a young player and RK may be trying to get him to do something (i.e. go to the net?). So, its possible MPS is both playing well AND not doing something the coach wants, but that he would play even better if he was following the coaches marching orders.

  50. Нинтендо⁶⁴ says:

    GordM,

    bookje,

    Either PA would have got an exemption from the NHL or the NHL would have nullified the signing. Not a chance the Jackets got the player.

  51. denny33 says:

    42 percent body fat,

    Agreed.

    More importantly. What to do about Clowns in games that might get lopsided. Besides Benn – Simpson should not be allowed to fight our LEADING goal scorer. Simpson was allowed to skate off the ice…wow. Especially someone with the size of our Sam Gagne.

    Note: See Calgary’s recent acquisition.

  52. Woodguy says:

    VAN claims Sestito

    *whew*

    Weird to give up Volpatti but pick up Sestito, unless they wanted Volpatti to clear….

  53. denny33 says:

    jonrmcleod,

    Mark Spector is one of a thousand voices saying that…mine included.

  54. Woodguy says:

    denny33,

    Again, I am no fan of Petrell – but last night he just matched the Entire output of MPS in one night.

    Petrell got two game winning goals last night?

    Cool!

  55. GordM says:

    Нинтендо⁶⁴,

    Unfortunately we’ll never find out. Dale Tallon didn’t catch a break with his RFA mis-up (different circumstances). Even if CGY did end up with the player after a ruling, Feaster looking like even more of an idiot would have been just fine by me.

  56. Нинтендо⁶⁴ says:

    Woodguy,

    So Oil tried to claim the guy the Dys waived, and the Dys claimed the guy the Oil passed on? Wonder which mgmt group is smarter?

    (or does the tie go to whoever passes when Tallon passes?)

  57. denny33 says:

    RMGS,

    I am telling I have 20/20 vision and I cannot see Yak’s shots they are so fast!

    This kid is going to light it up in a few years and if he would be paired with RNH – unstoppable.

    RNH will know how to find him for one-timers….

  58. RMGS says:

    denny33: He has been asked to switch to a defensive role because he has no offensive instincts at all…Zero.None. Zip.

    Many things with which to disagree in your post vis-à-vis MPS, but I’ll just select this one. He scored 15 goals and 34 points as a rookie two years ago. He was, is, and will be a better hockey player than Petrell.

  59. RMGS says:

    denny33:
    RMGS,

    I am telling I have 20/20 vision and I cannot see Yak’s shots they are so fast!

    This kid is going to light it up in a few years and if he would be paired with RNH – unstoppable.

    RNH will know how to find him for one-timers….

    This post, on the other hand, I agree with entirely! :-)

  60. Нинтендо⁶⁴ says:

    GordM,

    Reasonably certain this would have just been some extra post lockout housekeeping when the NHL+PA twigged to it.

  61. DeadmanWaking says:

    The other interesting question: After you die, if you meet God, what’s the first thing you’d like to hear him say? JM said something pithy and bland while also confessing to being an atheist.

    My answer, being me, is less pithy and less bland. Here my optimal meet-God first sentence, God speaking:

    Christopher Hitchens
    made me an offer
    I couldn’t refuse
    and you
    are invited.

    Pure poetry.

    Now either this means CH has arranged a gated community by-invitation-only in the heavenly realm for people who think for themselves (because God really does have a sense of humour), or CH has negotiated a pillowy shack on the outer fringes to afford himself a somewhat greater buffer zone from people who don’t think for themselves in exchange for writing out “God is Great” with squeaky chalk on a green tinged black-board 10,000 times per day for the rest of eternity. Fair price. Almost a bargain.

    Since childhood I’ve always sort of suspected God’s first sentence would be “Well really, on the evidence and counter-evidence, I wouldn’t have believed in me, either, but psssst don’t tell anyone I said that out loud.”

    I’ve never called myself an atheist officially. The version that came to me yesterday is this: Supposition plus faith does not equal virtue. I’m not opposed to either supposition or faith. I’m mainly opposed to the invisible fabric of virtue. How about we base virtue in the here and now on things we can really see both with our eyes and instruments, and postpone the afterlife until if and when it claims us? Or would that take the purpose out of this whole afterlife thing altogether? God created heaven so that we would obey: he’s all about carrot and stick and resistance to change.

    I guess I should wrap this one up by stating explicitly that I’m not running up this flag to start a debate. This was my honest internal answer after viewing the Actors’ Studio clips. If a humourless God exists, I know I’m in for it. Chill people, the big guy has it down–noisy earthly assistance not required.

  62. RMGS says:

    I haven’t gone through all of last night’s posts, but did others also notice that the Oilers sat back in the neutral zone more? The one-man passive forecheck was more in evidence compared to the “full press” the team’s employed at EV under coach Krueger.

  63. oilersfan says:

    I do not know how to find the information that changes “corsi” into “relative corsi”. I understand that Belanger and Fistric have terrible corsi numbers, but I am wondering how does this adjust for the quality of competition and the zone starts? it seems to me every time Belanger and Fistric are on the ice they are taking a faceoff in their own zone against the other teams’ best line. Shouldn’t it be expected they are badly outshot?

    Also, similar question for Gagner and Hemsky…does this explain their terrible absolute corsi?

    Last question…how could the Oilers only have a corsi of 34 last night when their official shots on net were 38? They never missed the net or had a shot blocked? I have never heard of this?

  64. cabbiesmacker says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: We’ve all been there.

    You’re in a store (you’re not sure why, what they sell, or whether you need any of it),

    people are madly grabbing at merchandise (you’re not sure who these people are, they don’t look familiar, or part of your historical circles of influence and yet, they seem to know something. You suspect their behavior must be instructive. The fact that you feel so unfamiliar with your surroundings and company compounds a budding sense within you that you must join the herd… they know something!),

    slowly, the environment takes hold of you, you casually pick up a box of something amidst a collection of hands clawing at the same display of goods, pawing your hands and shirt cuffs in the same action (you’re overcome by alternating feelings of disgust and attraction at the scene you gradually become a part of. The object, now semi-secured in your hands, becomes precious to you),

    … … …

    you return home, gather the family and display your prizes across the dining room table (you feel an overwhelming sense of accomplishment concerning your bounty and savings),

    you are greeted by a series of vacant and bemused glares and the wife mumbles something under her breath that sounds distinctly like, “you’re … idiot,” (your feelings of pride and victory ebb sharply, you cast a suddenly wary eye towards your prizes and you feel your moral character hollowing),

    the family unceremoniously shuffles out of the room, you are alone with your prizes (you feel shame).

    what have you bought?

    who even knows.

    You didn’t mention 50 inch waist stretchpants, other life form cashiers, and 500 lb people dragging flatbed carts of Oh Henry’s but you just described any trip I’ve ever made to Costco very nicely

  65. cabbiesmacker says:

    spoiler:
    Why does no one tell me when it’s Acid Friday?

    I’m too old to drop acid… What do old men drop instead?

    Dead mostly

  66. Hammers says:

    Woodguy you have another who feels the same way about Magnus . If they trade him it will bite them in the ass .Play him with Gags

  67. oilersfan says:

    DeadManWalking, where did that post come from? was there a discussion on another forum about God and the afterlife? And who is JM?

  68. bookje says:

    oilersfan:
    DeadManWalking, where did that post come from? was there a discussion on another forum about God and the afterlife? And who is JM?

    I interpreted it as having to do with RK and PRV and it made perfect sense. However, I suspect he clicked paste on the wrong blog page.

  69. RMGS says:

    oilersfan:
    I do not know how to find the information that changes “corsi” into “relative corsi”. I understand that Belanger and Fistric have terrible corsi numbers, but I am wondering how does this adjust for the quality of competition and the zone starts? it seems to me every time Belanger and Fistric are on the ice they are taking a faceoff in their own zone against the other teams’ best line. Shouldn’t it be expected they are badly outshot?

    Also, similar question for Gagner and Hemsky…does this explain their terrible absolute corsi?

    Last question…how could the Oilers only have a corsi of 34 last night when their official shots on net were 38? They never missed the net or had a shot blocked? I have never heard of this?

    The Vollman graphs would help, but I believe that Gagner-Hemsky aren’t facing top opposition (though they’re not slouches, either). Also, the Corsi number you cited is for play at evens.

  70. tubes says:

    denny33:
    Lowetide,

    I could be wrong – but there seems to be a small disconnect between people’s attitude on RK – which I deem to be generally positive – versus his decision making vis-a-vis MPS.

    I respect everyone’s opinion on MPS and I know he is adored in this setting…

    Again, I am no fan of Petrell – but last night he just matched the Entire output of MPS in one night.

    MPS is one of the most awkward players I have seen in a long time. ( Mats Lindgren anyone ? )

    He has been asked to switch to a defensive role because he has no offensive instincts at all…Zero.None. Zip.

    He has zero hockey sense. Never seen a guy over-skate the puck so much. Or recover it from between his skates.

    He falls to the ice a lot – reminds me of Mark Scheifle here in Winnipeg ( young Bambi ) . He is trying to be physical but it is simply not in his nature, And you can tell.

    I realize he he is trying hard and he is very focused on being the 3rd guy high…and maybe there is a role for that kind of guy but he is turning 22. I just don’t know what people see in him.

    Tangent – Chris Vandevlde

    My two cents – and I know Horcoff is injured – but #54 stands out as having no discernible skills qualified for the NHL. In my opinion, very few teams in the NHL would ice a Vandevlde . Just happy when he can get it to the red line.

    Winnipeg Jets are not a good team but they picked up 6’4200 pound 4th line centre – James Wright.
    off waivers and he is not flashy at all. But his size and ability have been a pleasant surprise. He wins puck battles along the boards. ( James Wright is Canadian who played in the ‘W’ )

    Again, I realize I am swimming against the tide here. But I would submit RK is obviously seeing something in MPS game he does not like.

    Couldn’t agree with you more. Sometimes it’s more than just the underlying stats. MPS doesn’t win puck battles, he cheats for defense, can’t make a hit to save his life and is scared to go in the corners. He has great speed and a decent shot, but he is a soft player who always leaves you wanting more. If you can teach him how to play physical and win some damn one on one battles maybe there’s a player there.

    I realize that most of the posters here think that teams don’t need grit or a tough guy (that can play a little) to win but if you ask the actual players on the team, I’m thinking they would like someone tougher and a bit crazy.

    Didn’t Hemsky and some others request a tough guy years ago because it made them feel more comfortable?

    As much as the game has changed you still need someone players who will make the talent feel secure and safe. Regardless of what all of us keyboard warriors think, if the players are scared out there they won’t perform there best.

    One can argue that you shouldn’t have those types of players on your team but they fact is not everyone is a Taylor Hall. If you wear down the opposing players enough, they will back down. They become scared to go in the corners to retrieve pucks and give the puck up a second earlier then they should. For as little hockey sense as a guy like Eager has, he scares the oppositions dmen.

    Now how far out to lunch do you think I am?

  71. tubes says:

    RMGS: Many things with which to disagree in your post vis-à-vis MPS, but I’ll just select this one.He scored 15 goals and 34 points as a rookie two years ago.He was, is, and will be a better hockey player than Petrell.

    He was a better player two years ago too.

  72. denny33 says:

    oilersfan,

    Eric Belanger does take some defensive zone faceoffs…but as David Staples pointed out he is a 3rd line centre he is facing weak opposition – and he still can’t score.

    On a positive note for Belanger – he almost had a shot on net. Even on his break away…very close.

    Too many PP’s on both sides but as I predicted – on the road – I feel some coaches are going to target
    the Gagner / Hemsky line. A few last changes were used to get the Benn line against. them….

  73. denny33 says:

    tubes,

    Great post on the effect of tough guys…

    I remember Sean Horcoff give a dissertation on the Steve McIntyre effect. it was very long and it has to do with the warm blanket of security the team felt. This was from a guy that played US college hockey.

    We can debate the issu all we want. – player intimidation is still a factor in hockey. Just ask the players…

  74. RMGS says:

    “…our power play was disappointing.” – Coach Krueger

    Giving the “pass the puck into the net” PP unit the vast majority of the time and forgetting that he has a “world class” one-timer on the bench for three 5 on 3 PPs.

    Look in the mirror, coach!

  75. RMGS says:

    Tom Gazzola ‏@TomGazzola Whitney, Peckham in. Potter (head) Fistric (elbow) out.

    Ok, victory’s officially in doubt. Triple-shift Hall to compensate.

    :-)

  76. "Steve Smith" says:

    denny33:
    jonrmcleod,

    Mark Spector is one of a thousand voices saying that…mine included.

    That’s a very odd thing to admit.

    oilersfan:
    I do not know how to find the information that changes “corsi” into “relative corsi”.

    Relative Corsi is just the player’s Corsi minus the team’s Corsi when the player is not on the ice. It is “relative” only to the team’s overall performance, not to zone starts or quality of competition, which don’t factor into it (despite being, as you say, highly relevant). As RMGS said above, Vollman’s a good starting point for considering those factors.

  77. Halfwise says:

    Forgive me for being so accommodating of the status quo. I have high hopes for MPS despite what feels like a flat or declining trajectory, and high hopes for RK despite the brief time I have been watching what he does. Maybe I am just wired to rationalize things.

    But here is what I see about RK: he makes his expectations clear, then he gets people to commit in relation to those expectations, then he holds them to those commitments.

    I think Whitney is in the doghouse in part because he misled RK as to his ability to perform, and partly for his actual performance. Whitney misled us fans, too, in that interview about the new 100%. Same for Teddy Peckman and his conditioning — if a guy disrespects his obligations to the team then everyone needs to see the consequences for that guy. This is tough love and it’s going to make the team better every year if RK is given the time and authority to keep applying it. The whole room is watching, along with the farm team.

    With MPS, we don’t know what commitments he has made to RK, nor what RK has committed to MPS. But those commitments are further complicated by Paajaarvi’s waiver status, which is a precious commodity and which (I would bet) RK and Paajaarvi have discussed in detail. It doesn’t do RK any good to have MPS carry stories of unfairness to OKC.

    We don’t know what commitments MPS has made to RK about physical play; what delights me (when MPS does something assertive out there) might fall short of what he and RK have agreed is required.

    I think RK’s choices are the best he can see against the long term objectives of building a team that wins and the short term objectives of winning games while having some flexibility in the system.

    The way this team was designed in the off-season, if both Horcoff and Jones had been on the ice since day 1 this short season, RK’s team would have more points and MPS might still be waiting in OKC (along with VDVD and Lander) for a call-up. The fact that MPS is on the margins today does not signify that the end of the world is near.

  78. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    RMGS:
    Tom Gazzola ‏@TomGazzolaWhitney, Peckham in. Potter (head) Fistric (elbow) out.

    Ok, victory’s officially in doubt.Triple-shift Hall to compensate.

    What the hell with fistric? this is the first I’ve heard anything. any thoughts on what did it last night?

  79. Captain Obvious says:

    denny33:
    jonrmcleod,

    Mark Spector is one of a thousand voices saying that…mine included.

    As a professional educator who deals with all different kinds of human beings I have to say that Spector is an impossibly stupid human being. You can run a very good NHL team simply by doing the opposite of what he says. if you find yourself agreeing with Spector you have a serious, serious problem.

  80. denny33 says:

    RMGS,

    No kidding…..the guy with the laser beam for a shot must have been losing his mind on the bench….

    Dallas crew also pointed out that our PP numbers were deceiving – ie – we don’t do nearly as well on the road. I think we saw evidence of that last night. Which goes to the point …

    Let’s try Yak on the 5 on 3′s….not sure why he would not be the first choice…

    Interesting test tonight to see how our small forwards deal with the size of the Blues….

  81. delooper says:

    denny33:

    Let’s try Yak on the 5 on 3′s….not sure why he would not be the first choice…

    I suspect the main concern with Yakupov is turnovers. He’s been giving up some really bad ones recently, sometimes multiple times in a play. If Yakupov makes less egregious turnovers he’ll probably get more PP time.

  82. VanOil says:

    Woodguy: Whiskey and lots of it.

    Checks Whiskey reserves, 1/3 of a bottle. Not nearly enough off to the Liquor store I go, I was thinking of Haggis for dinner tonight anyway’s and it sacrilege not chase it with a wee dram ~ at least according to Christopher Hitchens.

    Mr. Deadmanwalking Agreed with your assessment of MS turn of the century decent in one of Dante’s circles of hell. I tend to show intent to injure towards phones and chairs as desks fight back.

    Agreed all the more with: “I must say I’m getting a special pleasure these days out of Bruce’s game summaries over at Cult. He seems to have suffered a mid-season stroke (or at least a strike-through cluster). I highly approve.”

    My biggest question for the night is if the Nuge is starting to learn face offs. The team as a whole have shown out bursts of competence in this area over the last week. I had little hope of Nuge figuring it out until he had two good shoulders and a few more years under his belt. If he has, or even if he is on his way, well he is a very special talent.

    I so want to see a frame by frame replay of Yak’s vapor post/net shot.

    Dallas commentators were very complementary of Eberle blocking a shot with his belly last night. Another sign of true team toughness. These kids will figure it out and I would happily take a 4-0 spanking from Chicago in the first round as part of the learning curve as playoff hockey is as foreign as winning in Dallas.

  83. denny33 says:

    Captain Obvious,

    I am newer so I can see Mark Spector seems to cause people to have physical pain…I am not that familiar with him

    But I don’t think he is a lone wolf calling for the Oilers to add more size and grit.

    Outside of Edmonton – pretty common stuff about the oilers need more size and grit… Only this year has Mike Keenan amped up the verbiage

    In fact, we have evidence our own Oiler management is after more ‘size and grit’…

    I think the messenger is still breathing – shoot him again!

  84. hunter1909 says:

    Captain Obvious: As a professional educator who deals with all different kinds of human beings I have to say that Spector is an impossibly stupid human being.

    The first comment has zero to do with the alleged conclusion, and score another one for freshman philosophy class.

    Must have been a hard week. What with all that educating.

  85. crude says:

    oilersfan:
    DeadManWalking, where did that post come from? was there a discussion on another forum about God and the afterlife? And who is JM?

    Ha

  86. RMGS says:

    delooper: I suspect the main concern with Yakupov is turnovers.He’s been giving up some really bad ones recently, sometimes multiple times in a play. If Yakupov makes less egregious turnovers he’ll probably get more PP time.

    I imagine you’re not referring to the dangers of turn-overs on a 5v3, so maybe the coach is using PP time for the rookie as a carrot. But, if results matter, he needs to put his 5.49 PP/60 (young) man and his shot out there. Yakupov’s achieved that number with the 10th most PP TOI/60.

  87. delooper says:

    RMGS: I imagine you’re not referring to the dangers of turn-overs on a 5v3, so maybe the coach is using PP time for the rookie as a carrot.But, if results matter, he needs to put his 5.49 PP/60 (young) man and his shot out there.Yakupov’s achieved that number with the 10th most PP TOI/60.

    I suspect they’re worried about 5v4 and 5v3 situations. The key in 5v3 is maintaining posession. So even a minor turn-over is a big headache, likely resulting in having to fetch the puck in your end-zone. Yakupov has two problems to deal with 1) his team-mates aren’t quite used to his passing and it’s sometimes a little over-the-top in terms of pepper content and 2) he makes some too-dangerous passes for NHL level hockey. In 5v3 situations I suspect the coach is more worried about (1) than (2).

  88. justDOit says:

    Better get this out of the way now.

    I love listening to the blues, and I think St. Louis is a fine, fine city.

  89. BlacqueJacque says:

    GordM:
    Very funny if true.Reporter believes O’Reilly would have had to clear waivers if RFA offer sheet was not matched.COL would have the picks, CLB could pick up O’Reilly, Feaster fired:

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2013/03/01/calgary_flames_fortunate_colorado_avalanche_match_ryan_oreilly/

    Talk in Calgary seems to be he could or at least should get fired over that.

    Losing a 1st and a 3rd for nothing, or watching him play in the AHL for $3M (including a $2.5M bonus) while Iginla, Cammalleri, Bouwmeester and Kipper aged another year.

    The media smells blood and is circling.

    Not a good sign for Jay.

  90. tubes says:

    Captain Obvious: As a professional educator who deals with all different kinds of human beings I have to say that Spector is an impossibly stupid human being.You can run a very good NHL team simply by doing the opposite of what he says.if you find yourself agreeing with Spector you have a serious, serious problem.

    Well you know what they say about teachers…

    To say that Spector, who has basically analyzed and written about sports for 25+ years and deals with hockey minds much more experienced (and smarter when it comes to the sport) is an “impossibly stupid human being”, makes you look even worse.

    Don’t get me wrong – I think he’s got some absolutely asinine beliefs too but he’s probably forgot more about the sport then most of us know. He’s paid to follow and analyze the sport that we do on blogs for free (mostly). He does research, he talks to gifted hockey minds and we just listen on the radio and criticize.

    I rarely listen to him anymore because I’d rather listen to Stauffer, but Spector is far from stupid.

  91. Minister D- says:

    Where’s the angst? Ok, there’s at least a 50/50 chance that the Oilers lay an enormous egg tonight, making the Pint off Whyte a very sad (sadder?) place. Above the low tinkle of half-empty beer glasses and the occasional tittering of the UFC girl, only the wind…

  92. BlacqueJacque says:

    Minister D-,

    Second game of a back-to-back, on the road following a big, hard effort in Dallas, lost your statistically best defensive defenceman and your #6, forced to play Gimpy and Frumpy in their stead.

  93. RMGS says:

    delooper: I suspect they’re worried about 5v4 and 5v3 situations. The key in 5v3 is maintaining posession. So even a minor turn-over is a big headache, likely resulting in having to fetch the puck in your end-zone. Yakupov has two problems to deal with 1) his team-mates aren’t quite used to his passing and it’s sometimes a little over-the-top in terms of pepper content and 2) he makes some too-dangerous passes for NHL level hockey. In 5v3 situations I suspect the coach is more worried about (1) than (2).

    The risk of a turn-over on a 5v3 versus the reward of the Yakupov one-timer is one-sided, imo. As I’ve seen it (and in limited time), the rookie has excellent puck control skills on the 5v4 PP off the right half wall. I can’t see how, specifically, on a 5v3 this would change.

  94. Clay says:

    denny33:
    Captain Obvious,

    I am newer so I can see Mark Spector seems to cause people to have physical pain…I am not that familiar with him

    But I don’t think he is a lone wolf calling for the Oilers to add more size and grit.

    Outside of Edmonton – pretty common stuff about the oilers need more size and grit… Only this year has Mike Keenan amped up the verbiage

    In fact, we have evidence our own Oiler management is after more ‘size and grit’…

    I think the messenger is still breathing – shoot him again!

    Spector is the nutcase who rails all day about how the Oilers show no grit, then when Hall gets chippy and takes a run at a guy who is ALWAYS taking runs at Oiler players, he stands there in the post game scrum and says “Oh hey Taylor. That hit sure was out of character for you. What was going through head?” All the while he’s wearing that vacant, smarmy grin. When Hall asks him if he’s implying that he shouldn’t have made the hit, Spector suddenly finds his shoelaces quite interesting.

  95. Woodguy says:

    jimbones100:
    Lowetide,

    I thought Jones was very effective last night on the 2nd line. He was excellent in winning puck battles on the forecheck and went to the net very well. Did you see something I did not?

    Also I too would like to see 91 play and do well but why are we oppossed to seeing a good prospect get additional developmental time in the AHL?We have been requesting more depth on the team to allow our prospects to develop and now that we have it I am confused with the complaints?

    I don’t believe you can make a strong case that 91 or Ladner has excelled at the AHL level and need tobe promoted. In fact I will make the argument that the best thing for the entire Nordic line is to play big minutes in the AHL.

    Woodguy/Lowetide can you help me understand?

    I’ll take a crack at it later today if I can.

    Travelling and on the crackberry which makes it near impossible to grab all the info.

  96. BlacqueJacque says:

    Clay: Spector is the nutcase who rails all day about how the Oilers show no grit, then when Hall gets chippy and takes a run at a guy who is ALWAYS taking runs at Oiler players, he stands there in the post game scrum and says “Oh hey Taylor.That hit sure was out of character for you.What was going through head?”All the while he’s wearing that vacant, smarmy grin.When Hall asks him if he’s implying that he shouldn’t have made the hit, Spector suddenly finds his shoelaces quite interesting.

    Please tell me you have a link to that!

  97. Rocknrolla says:

    “I sincerely hope all those old timey Dallas Stars were in town last night to enjoy the game. If I knew Mike Keane’s email address I’d send him the boxscore. Go home, Keane!”

    Love this LT…funny how there is still that deep rooted hatred of the wretched stars….proof that playoffs create rivalries. Looking forward to the re-alignment because of this.

    Nice to be smiling today.

  98. regwald says:

    Woodguy: Sestito

    They only sent down Volpati because they needed the roster space. Since then, I believe Kesler is on IR with the broken foot. So, it came down to a timing issue.

    Sorry, don’t know who came off IR that they needed Volpati’s roster spot.

  99. Mr DeBakey says:

    I think [Spector has] some absolutely asinine beliefs too but he’s probably forgot more about the sport then most of us know.

    That is absolutely incorrect.
    He is not more knowledgeable about sports, or hockey, than most of the commenters here.
    And his skill is not analysis; it’s the ability to crank out 750 words arranged entertainingly.

  100. crude says:

    About Yak on the 5v3, I bet if they needed the goal he would have been out there at the end. But, They were up 5-1 in the dying minutes of the third. Kreuger maybe felt that Nail needed the bench more than the glory.

  101. Kris11 says:

    “Well you know what they say about teachers…”

    That, for the most part, they are hard working, underpaid, dedicated, incredibly valuable members of society?

    Or you mean the offensive jibe about “those who don’t, teach.”

    Give teaching a try some time if you think you can do it well, day in and day out,

    Or just stop talking. Maybe that would be better.

  102. Captain Obvious says:

    tubes,

    In a business as insular as sports reporting the fact that someone gets paid for their analysis is not evidence of the quality of their insight. That insularity breeds incompetence and prejudice is made clear every time guys like Spector or Stauffer open their mouths. They are automatic mouthpieces who make preprogrammed utterances devoid of intelligence or even meaning. They aren’t human beings, they are automata. What they say is irrefutable because to their words refer to neither things nor reasons. At best, they are expressions of sentiment and expressions of sentiment can not be argued with.

    Worse than all of this, though, is that they are craven and corrupt human beings who abuse their position to push their personal agenda and attempt to destroy careers. They aren’t merely incompetent beasts devoid of speech, they are bad human beings who have no place in civil society.

  103. eidy says:

    enjoyed the game last night. nice to have a little puck luck for a change and thought dubnyk plated quite well.

    as for tonight, I hope they get another 2 points and start to build a little momentum. I don’t know if it is all the talk of needing to add players/grit and the team isn’t as confident as a group. As a rule, they have not looked very sure of themselves lately and I think the other team smells blood. Against Chicago the other day it did not seem that the chicago D feared us at all. They pinched at every opportunity.

    Potter on the other hand barely crossed the red line and was backing out of the zone (even while on the powerplay) whenever Chicago got near the puck.

  104. Henry says:

    Note to self: don’t get on Captain Obvious’ bad side.

  105. hockeyguy10 says:

    Captain Obvious,

    hmmmmm…..someone stating their opinion as though it was factual…where have I seen that before??

  106. Ribs says:

    TSNBobMcKenzie
    NHL is having a disciplinary hearing tomorrow with DAL’s Jamie Benn for his crosschecking major last night vs. EDM.

  107. BlacqueJacque says:

    Ribs,

    I hope a suspension results. I was starting to worry the league wasn’t even going to look at it.

  108. bookje says:

    Woodguy: I’ll take a crack at it later today if I can.

    Travelling and on the crackberry which makes it near impossible to grab all the info.

    Slacker – and don’t forget my list of NHL players who have taken contracts below their qualifying offers after having sat out in a contract dispute in previous years while their dad rants on blog sites about how people undervalue his son.

    Oops, I think I may have left the brake off my goalposts and they may have rolled a little…

  109. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    crap… missed this a couple of weeks ago:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/arts/music/donald-byrd-renegade-jazz-trumpeter-dies-at-80.html?_r=0

    In his 1998 Cornell lecture Mr. Byrd said he had been inspired by musicians who changed music, notably John Coltrane.

    “I met him in the 11th grade in Detroit,” he said. “I skipped school one day to see Dizzy Gillespie, and that’s where I met Coltrane. Coltrane and Jimmy Heath just joined the band, and I brought my trumpet, and he was sitting at the piano downstairs waiting to join Dizzy’s band. He had his saxophone across his lap, and he looked at me and he said, ‘You want to play?’

    “So he played piano, and I soloed. I never thought that six years later we would be recording together, and that we would be doing all of this stuff. The point is that you never know what happens in life.”

    check him out:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myHPE5ivOUo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBLJAM7jPUQ

  110. delooper says:

    Cornell and the Ithaca area has a pretty neat music scene, and music history. Moog (of the synthesizer, rather than the goalie) lived in Trumansburg and a lot of Cornell students were very influenced by him.

  111. FPB94 says:

    If I had to insult someone eloquentely I would hire Captain Obvious.

  112. "Steve Smith" says:

    FPB94,

    My rates are better, and Captain Obvious has, um…poop…for brains.

  113. spoiler says:

    Captain Obvious:

    What they say is irrefutable because to their words refer to neither things nor reasons.At best, they are expressions of sentiment and expressions of sentiment can not be argued with.

    Pot… Kettle.

    Is there a commentator here who these words describe better than yourself?

    90% of your posts are categorical statements followed by insults, strung together with no reasoning at all.

    I hope to gord you don’t educate anyone with the vituperation you consistently display here. You come across as very bitter and hateful, in a way that could seriously damage a student.

  114. FPB94 says:

    Spoiler: Everyone here is really bitter. EVERYONE

    Steve Smith: I like vicious people.

  115. Clay says:

    There may have been some truth to the story that the Flames could’ve lost O’Reilly to waivers. It’s apparently due to a rule that a player who plays in the KHL must clear waivers if he want’s to play in the NHL in the same season, or some such.

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2013/03/01/calgary_flames_fortunate_colorado_avalanche_match_ryan_oreilly/

    BlacqueJacque: Please tell me you have a link to that!

    I’m trying to find one, but the Nazis here at work throttle any streaming video back to the point where it’s almost pointless. I know it was his post-game interview from the Minny game, and it was the Sportsnet feed. If you search back on the Oilers website for that scrum, it may be there.

  116. Kris11 says:

    I agree with Captain Obvious (I strongly suspect he isn’t really a Captain, though).

    And I think the hyperbole in his negative rhetoric is warranted, but could come down just a notch or two, though.

  117. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Captain Obvious:
    tubes,

    In a business as insular as sports reporting the fact that someone gets paid for their analysis is not evidence of the quality of their insight.That insularity breeds incompetence and prejudice is made clear every time guys like Spector or Stauffer open their mouths.They are automatic mouthpieces who make preprogrammed utterances devoid of intelligence or even meaning.They aren’t human beings, they are automata.What they say is irrefutable because to their words refer to neither things nor reasons.At best, they are expressions of sentiment and expressions of sentiment can not be argued with.

    Worse than all of this, though, is that they are craven and corrupt human beings who abuse their position to push their personal agenda and attempt to destroy careers.They aren’t merely incompetent beasts devoid of speech, they are bad human beings who have no place in civil society.

    this seems appropriate:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gL3P377BQA

  118. spoiler says:

    FPB94:
    Spoiler: Everyone here is really bitter.EVERYONE

    Steve Smith: I like vicious people.

    I blame the communists. Ie… ALL of you. Except Hayek. I’m guessing he isn’t pinko.

    ;-)

  119. Kris11 says:

    FPB,

    Do people insult better in French? I’ve always suspected that we English as a first languagers don’t insult well, but the French can do it better in the French language. Am I wrong. (My French sucks butt, and your English is fantastic, so you would be in a good position to evaluate.)

  120. delooper says:

    Kris11,

    Quebecois tend to use church words when they get emotional. France-French are more like the anglo-saxon world when it comes to insults — it’s more performance-oriented, like sexual slanders or insults against peoples’ intelligence.

  121. FPB94 says:

    Kris11,

    I guess it depends. English is much more practical, French is much more specific, descriptive. If I had to crush a man’s soul it would probably be with French. I must say it’s really hard to have good insults in French without being adept of the language, where English would have more small ways of nailing your sentence.

    I must admit that CO’s rant was quite delightful though.

  122. delooper says:

    I’ve always thought the Missisipi-Georgia-Alabama type insults were the most annoying. “Well isn’t she precious?” the deliberately soft compliment.

  123. Mr DeBakey says:

    “I waive mai private parts at your auntie. Now go away or I’ll taunt you a second time.”

  124. FPB94 says:

    delooper,

    Backhanded compliments definitely hit hard =P.

  125. BlacqueJacque says:

    Clay,

    Sweet, thanks for pointing me the right way, I found it.

    http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=4&id=204188&cmpid=embed-share-video

    About 45 seconds in.

    Spector: “That’s out of character for you, why at that point in the game are you throwing such a hard hit?”

    Hall: “I dunno – you obviously don’t think I should’ve, eh?”

    Spector: “No, no no…”

    Hall: “No?”

    Spector: “… that’s not what I’m saying.”

    For extra comedy, watch to the end of the video where Matheson is asking a question. Everyone around Matty has digital recorders, microphones, cameras… Matty is furiously scribbling in his notebook, the lead threatening to ignite the paper.

  126. godot10 says:

    Woodguy:
    VAN claims Sestito

    *whew*

    Weird to give up Volpatti but pick up Sestito, unless they wanted Volpatti to clear….

    “Oilogosphere-renowned genius” Mike Gillis screwed up. He didn’t wait for the medical results on Kessler before putting Volpatti on waivers.

  127. delooper says:

    BlacqueJacque,

    Yeah, that was a weird interaction. You rarely see awkward moments like that in interviews, where either a player or reporter tries to hold the other’s view to account. Man, I miss Randy Gregg.

  128. sliderule says:

    Sorry to all you MPS fans out there but he is a trading pawn in waiting for the oilers.

    The oiler honchos feel that he is just not aggressive enough and has no finishing skill.

  129. Dipstick says:

    As far as insults go, I’m partial to German. Nothing like “Dreck Sau” or “Schwein Hund” in French or English. You have to be really mentally deranged to dream those up.

  130. Derek says:

    godot10: “Oilogosphere-renowned genius” Mike Gillis screwed up.He didn’t wait for the medical results on Kessler before putting Volpatti on waivers.

    Compared to the recent work of Feaster, Sherman, Tambellini and Fletcher, this is nothing. The NW has got some Mickey Mouse GM-action going on.

    I can’t wait for Dellow’s take on the O’Reilly fiasco.

  131. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Kris11:
    FPB,

    Do people insult better in French? I’ve always suspected that we English as a first languagers don’t insult well, but the French can do it better in the French language. Am I wrong. (My French sucks butt, and your English is fantastic, so you would be in a good position to evaluate.)

    Are you inspired to say that because of this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs

  132. Romulus Apotheosis says:


    BLACQUEJACQUE
    : For extra comedy, watch to the end of the video where Matheson is asking a question. Everyone around Matty has digital recorders, microphones, cameras… Matty is furiously scribbling in his notebook, the lead threatening to ignite the paper.

    That’s big TJ, not matty.

  133. godot10 says:

    I think Paajarvi has improved his standing with Krueger in particular an awful lot in the course of 5 weeks. Renney treated him like the plague, a non-entity.

    True, Paajarvi could well be part of a trade package for a defenseman, but if Hemsky is the guy who goes, and Yakupov moves up the roster, a spot opens up for Magnus.

    Krueger has found the good-Eager, and even though Paajarvi is a far better player than good-Eager, Krueger likes having good-Eager in the lineup.

    Petrell is a PK specialist, and Krueger wants the him in the lineup too. A spot for Paajarvi also opens for either him or Hartikainen if the Oilers do not re-sign Petrell.

    Jones really has Paajarvi’s spot at the moment. Jones is extremely likeable, but over time, I think it is probable that he will disappoint.

    And well Ryan Smyth is old.

    I think Paajarvi has regained his edge over Hartikainen because of his versatility. Hartikainen cannot really skate with the top 6 guys, and can’t PK, or be a puck transporter on a lower line.

    So Paajarvi has to be patient, waiting for
    1) to be traded for a D
    2) for Smyth to retire (100 games away)
    3) Hemsky to be traded for a D
    4) Petrell not re-signed
    5) Jones found wanting.

  134. Woodguy says:

    As much as I want the whole ROR to be laid in the lap of CAL management stupidity (it would be nice to see someone besides EDM not understand the CBA or MOU), its not cut and dried.

    http://offsidesportsblog.blogspot.ca/2013/03/flames-oreilly-waiver-issue-open-to.html?spref=tw&m=1

  135. Derek says:

    Woodguy:
    As much as I want the whole ROR to be laid in the lap of CAL management stupidity (it would be nice to see someone besides EDM not understand the CBA or MOU), its not cut and dried.

    http://offsidesportsblog.blogspot.ca/2013/03/flames-oreilly-waiver-issue-open-to.html?spref=tw&m=1

    Yea I get that completely. TSN and SNET are reporting it was a huge blunder on both GM’s part, but other corners of the interweb are reporting it all falls into a sort of gray area. I don’t speak legalese like the majority of hockey fans or analysts for that matter, so when a situation like this comes to pass I typically keep an eye on Tylers blog for some clarification and maybe a bit of snark.

    All these interpretations are based off of the old CBA are they not? I’m glad to have hockey back, but why would GM’s be making moves and acting as if it were business as usual if they don’t have access to the new CBA to consult before hand?

  136. spoiler says:

    TSN on ROR

    Also, doesn’t this mean Visnovsky should have been put on waivers? Didn’t he play after the start of the season?

  137. godot10 says:

    Woodguy:
    As much as I want the whole ROR to be laid in the lap of CAL management stupidity (it would be nice to see someone besides EDM not understand the CBA or MOU), its not cut and dried.

    http://offsidesportsblog.blogspot.ca/2013/03/flames-oreilly-waiver-issue-open-to.html?spref=tw&m=1

    That analysis conveniently ignores the next line in the MOU which modifies/restricts the meaning of “a”. The MOU suggests that a trade is required.

    All Players on “a” Club’s Reserve List and Restricted Free Agent List will be exempt from the
    application of CBA 13.23 Waivers in the case of a mid-season signing.
    For further clarity, if Club A trades such a Player to Club B and Club B signs the Player to an SPC,
    such Player will be exempt from the application of CBA 13.23.

  138. godot10 says:

    spoiler:
    TSN on ROR

    Also, doesn’t this mean Visnovsky should have been put on waivers? Didn’t he play after the start of the season?

    I don’t think Visnovsky’s played. He was going to, but then didn’t.

  139. Gerta Rauss says:

    godot10: I don’t think Visnovsky’s played.He was going to, but then didn’t.

    Yeah, that’s right. He wanted to, and initially I think his KHL team was going to let him, but when the story broke that Vis was not reporting to the NYI the KHL team changed its tune and honored the NHL contract(and didn’t let him play)

  140. Marc says:

    Woodguy,

    The thing is, in legal terms the interpretation of that clause MOU is a toss up – it could be interpreted in the Flames favour, but the arguments the other way are just as strong, or stronger. That equates to a HUGE risk in a game with very high stakes.

    Feaster was essentially flipping a coin – heads and his 25th place team loses first and third round picks in a deep draft but gains a first line center, tails and his 25th place team loses first and third round picks in a deep draft and gains nothing. Or the coin rolls down the drain and everything stays as it is.

    The negligence is that Feaster not only took the risk, he didn’t even realise that he was gambling.

    How many times have people on here excoriated Tambo for signing (Khabi) or trading for (Whitney) players with injury histories, who subsequently turned out to be horrible signings because of injury? Tambo doesn’t get a free pass because the signings could have been good if the players had stayed healthy. They were risky deals when he made them and so the failure of the deals lies with him.

    Feaster deserves all the criticism for making a deal that posed an incredible risk to the long term prospects of the Flames and even moreso, for demonstrably not realising how risky the deal actually was.

  141. Woodguy says:

    6 and 24 in, 44 and 45 out.

    44 with “day to day” head injury

    45 with “day to day” elbow injury. Apparently inflamed elbow.

    This game has so many variables.

    One thing you can count on is that the Oilers will have many less shots, attempted shots, and missed shots than STL.

    Hope the unsustainable 4v5 SV% holds up and the 5v5 SH% continues to regress to the mean.

  142. Truth Movement says:

    Some good comments about Spector. That moments with Taylor Hall was just so satisfying. A guy being caught in his own hypocrisy. My take on Spector is that he’s a great personality, but a terrible analyst. He always seems so uninformed, talking out of both sides and generally landing on the wrong side of the argument. Still, he’s got a good demeanor for a radio show.

  143. DBO says:

    The Feaster screw up is awesome. Screw you Flames. And for those wondering, it only applies to players whose rights you don’t already have, so you can re-sign your own players and they don’t have to clear waivers, but it protects teams from offer sheets for players playing overseas.

    Any word on the forward lines? Paajarvi drawing in perhaps?

  144. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Truth Movement: My take on Spector is that he’s a great personality

    I’m not seeing/hearing the personality you are.

  145. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=658086&navid=nhl:topheads

    looks like Shanahan is thinking fine… deserves a game at least, but still a fine is way more than I was expecting.

    Also… no word on Nystrom… douche may have slipped by the law.

  146. Derek says:

    Oh god, why am I not on twitter?

    @FakeOilersGM

    I wonder if my $5M cap hit Ales Hemsky extension is still the “funniest thing” @nhlflames “has heard in a long, long time”.— Steve Tambellini (@FakeOilersGM) March 1, 2013

  147. bookje says:

    Woodguy:
    As much as I want the whole ROR to be laid in the lap of CAL management stupidity (it would be nice to see someone besides EDM not understand the CBA or MOU), its not cut and dried.

    Let’s be clear though, Calgary sucking in the general sense still stands as being cut and dried. There is no question about it.

  148. 42 percent body fat says:

    guys we can laugh at them all we want, but lets hold all the biggest laughs when the finish 9th in the conference again and trade down there pick.

  149. hunter1909 says:

    Whitney’s not really playing, right? Kreuger already knows starting the games with 1 defenceman missing is worth having two Whitneys.

  150. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    hunter1909:
    Whitney’s not really playing, right? Kreuger already knows he’s better off starting the games with 1 defenceman missing is worth having two Whitneys.

    It’s a mind game with RK and 6. He’s going to scratch him at the last minute. You watch.

  151. hunter1909 says:

    I like Louis as an Oilers announcer.

  152. hunter1909 says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    I’d play Yakupov on defense before Whitney.

    Of course all Ryan has to do is leave for another team and in no time at all he’s healthy and right back up there, ala Souray.

  153. tcho says:

    I suspect it’s going to be about composure, patience, and sticking with the game plan tonight for the Oil. Tough for a younger team. Quick, short, accurate passes clearing our end and moving through the neutral zone (the team has the talent to do it), and hopefully we get at least a Bettman point.

  154. Lowetide says:

    The cover photo is the cover photo because it is wonderful:

    1. Hall and Hemsky are the heart of the matter for 12-13 and
    2. those Kings uniforms against the Oilers whites is beautiful.
    3. There’s a guy in the background we should acquire. Again.

  155. delooper says:

    Dipstick:
    As far as insults go, I’m partial to German.Nothing like “Dreck Sau” or “Schwein Hund” in French or English.You have to be really mentally deranged to dream those up.

    German family names are hilarious. How on earth would someone acquire the name Schweinsteiger?? What would you have to do to get that name??

  156. VanOil says:

    Nystrom’s dirt baggyness last night reminded me of what I thought about our defensive depth coming into this season. I thought Teurbert and Fedun would be call ups. With Fedum get at least the cup of coffee he deserves in the show due to Nystrom robbing him of one last year.

    Teubert is looking like he would be lucky to get in an AHL game. The those square wheels he has been skating on seem to have fallen off.

    Fedun looks to be our #10 defenseman after Clarke. Even with Nystrom’s help last night he might not get his cup of coffee. When you have defensive depth this deep you ain’t shoveling your blasting might be to Oilers way, but that’s still a hill (slag heap) to climb.

    I can’t see keeping both of Teubert and Fedun next year. With Kelfbom, Germat, Musil and Bigos looking for AHL work next year throw in the other prospects like Marincin that have higher up sides are already down there, have more years left on ETL contracts and the it is looking bleak for them. Not what I would have figured 6 weeks ago.

  157. "Steve Smith" says:

    VanOil,

    This prompts my fortnightly reminder that Brett Clark is not actually Oilers’ property, and that the Oilers would need to sign him, not just call him up.

    (I mean, I assume he’d accept basically any NHL contract that was offered, so it shouldn’t be a difficult matter, but still.)

  158. prairieschooner says:

    VanOil,

    Van Oil
    Haggis is best served with some Drambuie drizzled over it
    If no Drambuie then Glayva
    If no Glayva a blended whisky
    If no blends available take a single malt in a shot glass hold it close to the haggis so the vapors can spread then knock the malt back and quickly eat the haggis.
    This public service announcement comes to you courtesy of the Sargeants Mess of The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 1st battalion when they were stationed in Stirling Castle

  159. Lowetide says:

    “Steve Smith”:
    VanOil,

    This prompts my fortnightly reminder that Brett Clark is not actually Oilers’ property, and that the Oilers would need to sign him, not just call him up.

    (I mean, I assume he’d accept basically any NHL contract that was offered, so it shouldn’t be a difficult matter, but still.)

    Same as Lingling, it’s just a different form to fill out.

    http://lowetide.ca/blog/2010/03/oilers-sign-linglet.html

  160. VanOil says:

    Lowetide,

    Whitney for Penner, I would even through Teubert in as a sweetener. Solves LA’s defensive injury problems. Do you think they will trust us on Whitney’s health???

    Joking aside I would welcome Penner back, as it was the wife not the pancakes that hurt him last year. He would be a good top 9 forward for us. I think MacT would kibosh it though despite the fact he would thrive under RK.

    Wow with gems like Lingling how did we ever finish so low in 2010

  161. Lowetide says:

    VanOil:
    Lowetide,

    Whitney for Penner, I would even through Teubert in as a sweetener. Solves LA’s defensive injury problems. Do you think they will trust us on Whitney’s health???

    Joking aside I would welcome Penner back, as it was the wife not the pancakes that hurt him last year. He would be a good top 9 forward for us. I think MacT would kibosh it though despite the fact he would thrive under RK.

    Place Penner on the Gagner line and roll this out:

    Nuge-Hall-Eberle
    Gagner-Penner-Hemsky
    Horcoff-Smyth-Jones
    Belanger-Hartikainen-Yakupov

    I’d put Paajarvi in Jones slot beginning in the fall. Men that’s not too damn bad.

  162. fuzzy muppet says:

    This is a winnable game. No Macdonald, Steen, or Tarasenko. come on boys!

  163. Woodguy says:

    jimbones100:
    Lowetide,

    I thought Jones was very effective last night on the 2nd line. He was excellent in winning puck battles on the forecheck and went to the net very well. Did you see something I did not?

    Also I too would like to see 91 play and do well but why are we oppossed to seeing a good prospect get additional developmental time in the AHL?We have been requesting more depth on the team to allow our prospects to develop and now that we have it I am confused with the complaints?

    I don’t believe you can make a strong case that 91 or Ladner has excelled at the AHL level and need tobe promoted. In fact I will make the argument that the best thing for the entire Nordic line is to play big minutes in the AHL.

    Woodguy/Lowetide can you help me understand?

    Can’t get at it tonight.

    Will do it though.

  164. khildahl says:

    Haha.

    Sportsnet had to go back to the Cogliano years to find footage of Whitney playing well.

  165. VanOil says:

    Lowetide: Place Penner on the Gagner line and roll this out:

    Nuge-Hall-Eberle
    Gagner-Penner-Hemsky
    Horcoff-Smyth-Jones
    Belanger-Hartikainen-Yakupov

    I’d put Paajarvi in Jones slot beginning in the fall. Men that’s not too damn bad.

    I’d buy that line up even with the Paajarvi demotion. If anything that line is too gritty and experienced for an Oilers fan to recognize. Might even compete for a playoff birth plus the kids could look at his two shinny rings.

  166. Derek says:

    Truth Movement:
    Some good comments about Spector. That moments with Taylor Hall was just so satisfying. A guy being caught in his own hypocrisy. My take on Spector is that he’s a great personality, but a terrible analyst. He always seems so uninformed, talking out of both sides and generally landing on the wrong side of the argument. Still, he’s got a good demeanor for a radio show.

    My take on Spector is that he’s a great personality

    Spector…great personality

    AAAGUHGUHF!#$!@%$!@#!@#

  167. hunter1909 says:

    What’s that Oiler’s color guy on?

  168. VanOil says:

    I forgot Panger commentated for the Blues. Will give him a try versus Louie for a bit.

  169. Lowetide says:

    Nice movement so far, no real chances but the Russian appears to try on any line he plays on.

  170. hunter1909 says:

    Just saw Whitney, Peckham, and Yakupov all on the ice together. Yipes.

  171. VanOil says:

    Panger is already telling me Messier passed on the job thats why RK got it.

  172. fuzzy muppet says:

    Oilers Defense can’t make a pass. Nick Schultz has 3 giveaways by my count already

  173. VanOil says:

    Shot totals not looking strong for the Oil. Hopefully they just holding out against a home town rush… or it could be a long night

  174. fuzzy muppet says:

    Even Justin Schultz can’t pass right now.

  175. hunter1909 says:

    Obvious Katz’s operation figures Oiler fans are all on his meds, because the patter emanating from the broadcast team + sledgehammer Canadian advertising doctrine…

    As a viewer you don’t get any time to think, it’s all just one great bombardment. Reminds me of Verdun.

  176. Lowetide says:

    man that was a stupid play. Oilers in control and the blue ices it seconds before crossing the center line. Stoopid. didn’t catch the player though.

  177. fuzzy muppet says:

    93 just can’t hit the fucking net to save his life

  178. Lowetide says:

    Nuge needs a new sight.

  179. VanOil says:

    hunter1909:
    Obvious Katz’s operation figures Oiler fans are all on his meds, because the patter emanating from the broadcast team + sledgehammer Canadian advertising doctrine…

    As a viewer you don’t get any time to think, it’s all just one great bombardment. Reminds me of Verdun.

    I am enjoying the Blues telecast. They are amused by everything.

  180. fuzzy muppet says:

    ugly, ugly start

  181. Derek says:

    Man there was 6 blues on the ice there for like 2 minutes.

    Edit: Looks like they got it eventually.

  182. leadfarmer says:

    Anyone have a feed? Would like to watch some of the game at work.

  183. hunter1909 says:

    VanOil,

    Good call. Just switched it’s great.

  184. fuzzy muppet says:

    They have no legs at all. It’s affecting their brains too. Belanger looks horrible

  185. Derek says:

    Eric Belanger with his second horrifying giveaway of the night.

  186. Lucinius says:

    Smid is surprisingly excellent at disturbing breakaways.

    Powerplay looks horrid again with stupid combinations of personnel.

    Figures.

  187. leadfarmer says:

    Thanks LT, but this stupid work computer wont let be download the plugin.

  188. VanOil says:

    hunter1909:
    VanOil,

    Good call. Just switched it’s great.

    They are surprisingly informed about the Oiler’s for a US or Any broadcast team. Plus admitting that the Blues had 6 skaters on the ice twice endeared them to this biased Oiler fan.

  189. fuzzy muppet says:

    Schultz! They should than Doobie for keeping them in this game

  190. Derek says:

    Hahaha so ugly. Oilers score a goal on their third shot of the period with 2:29 remaining.

  191. fuzzy muppet says:

    Sorry it was Hall!

  192. fuzzy muppet says:

    WHITNEY!!!!!!!!!!!

  193. Derek says:

    …And again on their fourth shot.

  194. Lowetide says:

    Hall (eberle, Schultz)

  195. Lucinius says:

    Hall! Nice to see him score after he screwed up an offensive rush.

  196. hunter1909 says:

    Now That’s a Goal!

  197. Lucinius says:

    Whitney!

    Makes up for his horrid work on the powerplay.

  198. fuzzy muppet says:

    pump and dump!

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