PREDATORS AT OILERS G28 (12-13) 17.3.13

The Edmonton Oilers begin the day tied for 24th in the NHL standings. They are an improved season year over year but there’s an outstanding chance to move up the overall standings and push for the second season. One hopes the organization feels a need to reward their fans for their long suffering.

I’m not sure which team needs the W more, but the Predators are having a helluva time on the road and Edmonton should not be happy with their home record. If the Oilers can win tonight and grab points from the two games this week things should look better by the weekend. That takes us to just over a week from the deadline and perhaps there’s a chance to add someone who can help now and in the future:

  • Drew Stafford is available based on reports and that’s a big winger for a skill line. He’s a $4M cap hit for the next two seasons and is having a poor year (everyone in Buffalo outside Vanek is having a poor year) but might be an interesting addition. What would he cost? Are the Oilers a better team with Hemsky-Eberle-Stafford-Yakupov than they are now?
  • Ryan Clowe is also available, he’s UFA at the end of the year and I can’t imagine the Oilers would be willing to give up anything but a draft pick for a rental. At 30, Clowe might be at the end of his time as a top 9F option (he hasn’t scored yet this season) but if the price is right Edmonton would do well to consider him.

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If the Oilers plan on moving Yakupov to his natural position and adding to the blueline via trade, I suspect Ales Hemsky is vulnerable to trade. Is that a good idea? I don’t think it is. In terms of offense, Hemsky’s skills create an enormous number of chances for his line, and he’s certainly finding a way to impact things (mostly on the PP this year). If you look at the 5×5/60 numbers among forwards, and assume the Nuge will climb back to top 6 eventually, who are you going to move:

  1. Taylor Hall 2.60
  2. Sam Gagner 2.26
  3. Ales Hemsky 1.70
  4. Nail Yakupov 1.58
  5. Magnus Paajarvi 1.47
  6. Jordan Eberle 1.47
  7. Ryan Smyth 1.24
  8. Shawn Horcoff 1.21
  9. Lennart Petrell 0.97
  10. Ben Eager 0.89
  11. Eric Belanger 0.78
  12. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 0.76
  13. Ryan Jones 0.57

Would I deal Hemsky? No damn way. I admittedly get stubborn on players, but my list of “must keep” forwards goes like this:

  1. Hall
  2. Nuge
  3. Yakupov
  4. Hemsky
  5. Gagner
  6. Eberle
  7. Paajarvi

Yes, Paajarvi. He won’t be expensive (and the rest of that list will be, believe me) and the Oilers have suffered through the growing pains so let’s keep him around to enjoy the good times.

So, you ask, how are the Oilers going to find a big body for their top 6? Well, I think Hartikainen could help in that area and also believe we’re at a point where Taylor Hall can be considered ‘bona fide’ and no longer in need of protection (save for pre-game skate). Also, I think it is established that the cost of adding a protector who can also play hockey is so dear that it’s impossible to attain, so beyond trading for a guy like Stafford the options are limited. Better to see if Harski can fill that role methinks.

And for heaven’s sake keep Hemsky and Gagner. The wasted money won’t be on those contracts, it’ll be on the goalie they’re bringing in to push Dubnyk or some other free agent signing. If the Oilers need to unload salary, Nick Schultz is the answer not Hemsky–and I don’t think there will be a cap crunch this summer anyway.

ASK RALPH

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Today, we begin a new feature called “Ask Ralph” in which a question about the roster is asked and we get to the bottom of the coach’s thinking. Today’s question: who do you consider to be your top 6 forwards? We begin by looking at this season’s even strength time-on-ice totals (10 games or more):

  1. Jordan Eberle 15:52 (up 1.5 minutes from one year ago)
  2. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 15:43 (up 1 minute from one year ago)
  3. Taylor Hall 15:05 (identical to one year ago)
  4. Sam Gagner 14:31 (identical to one year ago)
  5. Ales Hemsky 12:57 (down 2.5 minutes from one year ago)
  6. Nail Yakupov 11:31 (rookie)

Ryan Smyth was in last year’s top 6, he’s at 11:18 this season and that is down 3 minutes from a year ago. Ralph is running the kids, looking for goals, and he believes those #1 overalls, Gagner, Eberle and Hemsky are his best bet. The best argument for trading Hemsky is that Yakupov is going to be an impact player sooner than later (we all see it), and if he’s going to play RW the club will be dealing Eberle or Hemsky. The age of the cluster dictates Hemsky is vulnerable.

One interesting item: since Horcoff has returned, it’s the Nuge who has seen his icetime reduced. That injury is impacting him, suspect he’ll have surgery as soon as the playoff hopes fade to zero. I suspect that by the end of the season we’ll see Horcoff in or close to the top 6 in even strength minutes.

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Signing Sam Gagner (and Ladislav Smid) should be a priority for the Oilers in the coming days and weeks. Let’s assume that the club signs those two players:

  1. G Devan Dubnyk ($3.5M)
  2. backup undecided
  3. D Ladislav Smid ($4.5M)-estimate
  4. D Nick Schultz ($3.5M)
  5. D Justin Schultz ($3.775M)
  6. D Jeff Petry ($1.75M)
  7. D Oscar Klefbom ($1.275M)
  8. D Corey Potter ($775k)
  9. undecided
  10. C Shawn Horcoff ($5.5M)
  11. C Sam Gagner ($5M)-estimate
  12. C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins ($3.775M)
  13. C Eric Belanger ($1.75M)
  14. C Anton Lander ($900k)
  15. L Taylor Hall ($6M)
  16. L Magnus Paajarvi ($2M)-estimate
  17. L Ryan Smyth ($2.25M)
  18. L Teemu Hartikainen ($1M)-estimate
  19. L Ben Eager ($1.1M)
  20. R Jordan Eberle ($6M)
  21. R Ales Hemsky ($5M)
  22. R Nail Yakupiv ($3.775M)
  23. R Mike Brown ($737k)
  • 2013-14 CAP: $64,300,000
  • Estimate above: $63,859,000
  • That would leave $441,000 for a backup goalie and a top 4D. The Oilers are going to deal someone, now or at the deadline.

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  1. delooper says:

    This is all a ploy to get Petrell more ice time.

  2. Lowetide says:

    Dubnyk channels Parent.

  3. spoiler says:

    Doobs was something else during that flurry. Stood in tough.

  4. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Wow DD and that’s charging on yip.

  5. Lowetide says:

    Maturity issue there, Oilers were looking to score an EN goal and forgot about playing D.

  6. jp says:

    I know Whitney has been better lately, and that it’s a 2 goal lead. But Whithey out there to protect the lead? Really?

    Pump and dump? I hope so, but I kinda doubt it.

  7. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Some guys cheating for the empty netter on thatshift

  8. Rebilled says:

    .500! 10th place! 2 points out!

  9. GordM says:

    Lowetide,

    Concur. That weak sweep by Hall at the NSH blueline was very selfish. Tried a low-percentage poke check to get into the O-zone for an EN goal…easily could have taken position and likely possession.

    But a W is a W!!!! Goilers!

  10. spoiler says:

    SK Oiler Fan: Some guys cheating for the empty netter on thatshift

    For about three shifts. They were cheating during the PK too.

  11. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Biggest Hall impression – Gags getting mowed down.

    Got back up like he had already had 6 pints O Guiness and half a tankard of some kind of Glen.

  12. Thiru says:

    spoiler: For about three shifts. They were cheating during the PK too.

    2 points out!

  13. crude says:

    During that frenzy where Dubey “channeled Parent” who was the Oil D-man repeatedly pounding the face of the Nash plater till his helmet came off? I like that.

  14. Numenius says:

    Nice to see Ebs back.

  15. spoiler says:

    crude: During that frenzy where Dubey “channeled Parent” who was the Oil D-man repeatedly pounding the face of the Nash plater till his helmet came off? I like that.

    It was sort of a dual effort by Smid and Petry. Smid gave him the extra shot.

  16. spoiler says:

    We went from a 6.4% chance if we lost that game outright, to a15,2% chance by winning outright. That’s a huge swing and keeps us in the realm of passing a couple of teams if we can string a few wins together.

  17. Lowetide says:

    spoiler: It was sort of a dual effort by Smid and Petry. Smid gave him the extra shot.

    That’s straight out of the Jason Smith “hit it until it stops moving” playbook

  18. Kris11 says:

    Oilers need a top 4 Dman and a vet top 6 left wing to make playoffs, because Whitney and Smyth and Jones and Belanger and N Schultz aren’t able to succesfully fill those roles.

    They have all cap room necessary and could even take a bad contract to buy it out in the summer. Could also sell picks and prospects.

    So obvious but Tambellini is dumbz.

  19. BlacqueJacque says:

    Anybody notice the lack of complaints about Gagner’s speed this season?

  20. pboy says:

    It’s amazing how quiet the Rexall crowd is now. I’m sure it’s the decade of losing but here’s hoping that the new building + a solid team brings the energy back. After the Oilers had those 2 great shifts were they pinned the Preds in their own end, the crowd barely acknowledged it.

    Nice to see MPS keep it going tonight. He’s such an important player for us going forward.

  21. wordbird says:

    Kris11:
    Oilers need a top 4 Dman and a vet top 6 left wing to make playoffs, because Whitney and Smyth and Jones and Belanger and N Schultz aren’t able to succesfully fill those roles.

    They have all cap room necessary and could even take a bad contract to buy it out in the summer. Could also sell picks and prospects.

    So obvious but Tambellini is dumbz.

    A good GM would bring in 8s or 9s to help out our Jacks and Kings.

    Stumbellini’s better at “Go Fish” than at poker: “Have you got any 3s?”

  22. B S says:

    wordbird,

    Or the version I play with my friends “Go F@#$ yourself” I imagine it would explain why none of the GMs want to trade with him. Imagine getting that kind of response when you call up the OIlers GM asking if he has any 3s or 4s.

  23. Lowetide says:

    BlacqueJacque:
    Anybody notice the lack of complaints about Gagner’s speed this season?

    He looks faster.

  24. Ice Sage says:

    Lowetide: He looks faster.

    Luckily not everyone takes him seriously yet, even deciding to pit stop at the bench on the backcheck – man did he have a lot of time and space on that play.
    Good win, grinding it out vs. hypnotic team.

  25. Bos8 says:

    Ice Sage: Luckily not everyone takes him seriously yet, even deciding to pit stop at the bench on the backcheck – man did he have a lot of time and space on that play.
    Good win, grinding it out vs. hypnotic team.

    That was straight out funny. Talk about a blonde moment.

  26. Kris11 says:

    Yeah, the best pieces of news this season are:

    1. Dubnyk is at least decent
    2. MPS will be a solid top 9 option for a career, and could be excellent
    3. Gagner really does have elite offense, even if the rest of his game is up and down, as of now
    4. J Schultz really does have elite offense, even if the rest of his gane is up and doen, as of now
    4. Eager was waived
    5. Hordichuk was waived
    6. Early returns on young Yak look as good as expected or better
    7. RNH looks like an all around excellent player, not just an offensive guy
    8. Taylor Hall isn’t injured and seems to be protecting himself a bit better

    Bad news this season:

    1. Whitney sucks as bad as we thought, even if he can hold his passing game partly together now
    2. N. Schultz is a 3rd pairing D who is getting worse
    3. One of Hemsky or Gagner or both is apparently having an unexpectedly awful effect on Corsi
    4. Krueger can’t line match or coach very well technically, despite being liked
    5. Smid is unsigned and looks like he won’t be back
    6. Petry isn’t a top 2 Dman, and maybe won’t ever be
    7. The forward prospects in the AHL and junior are very middling.
    8. Klefbom has real injury problems
    9. Eberle’s SH% wasa little bit illusory
    10. Petrell and Jones and Brown and Potter and are all pretty poor 5×5 even compared to awful players of their cap hit.
    11. Smyth needs to go see the vet one more time.

    But none of it matters because you need a good GM to minimize the bad and maximize the good, so the Oilers will continue to suck poop.

  27. Ribs says:

    Lowetide: He looks faster.

    Que the yearly ankle injury. Great!

    Had a hell of a game tonight. I really hope he doesn’t play his way out of Edmonton the way he’s going.

  28. Kris11 says:

    If my list is correct, trading Eberle for a Dman is the smartest possible move, especially while there is still a perception that Eberle is as great or better than the other super kids.

    But maybe my list is wrong. They say Eberle is hurt, and he is shooting more this season. So whatever.

  29. Thiru says:

    Kris11:
    Oilers need a top 4 Dman and a vet top 6 left wing to make playoffs, because Whitney and Smyth and Jones and Belanger and N Schultz aren’t able to succesfully fill those roles.

    They have all cap room necessary and could even take a bad contract to buy it out in the summer. Could also sell picks and prospects.

    So obvious but Tambellini is dumbz.

    I’ll go against the grain here a little bit and suggest that they will be fine provided they stay healthy. Certainly another dman would be a tremendous help, but the real key is the return of 10.

    His presence allows everyone to be bumped down a peg in terms of responsibility and quality of opposition. If you want to talk about an acquisition that will put the team over the top, his return is probably it.

    Horcoff, and the emergence of Taylor Hall, is far better than anything any team in the playoff race will add by the trade deadline.

  30. tcho says:

    Kris11:
    Yeah, the best pieces of news this season are:

    1. Dubnyk is at least decent
    2. MPS will be a solid top 9 option for a career, and could be excellent
    3. Gagner really does have elite offense, even if the rest of his game is up and down, as of now
    4. J Schultz really does have elite offense, even if the rest of his gane is up and doen, as of now
    4. Eager was waived
    5. Hordichuk was waived
    6. Early returns on young Yak look as good as expected or better
    7. RNH looks like an all around excellent player, not just an offensive guy
    8. Taylor Hall isn’t injured and seems to be protecting himself a bit better

    Bad news this season:

    1. Whitney sucks as bad as we thought, even if he can hold his passing game partly together now
    2. N. Schultz is a 3rd pairing D who is getting worse
    3. One of Hemsky or Gagner or both is apparently having an unexpectedly awful effect on Corsi
    4. Krueger can’t line match or coach very well technically, despite being liked
    5. Smid is unsigned and looks like he won’t be back
    6. Petry isn’t a top 2 Dman, and maybe won’t ever be
    7. The forward prospects in the AHL and junior are very middling.
    8. Klefbom has real injury problems
    9. Eberle’s SH% wasa little bit illusory
    10. Petrell and Jones and Brown and Potter and are all pretty poor 5×5 even compared to awful players of their cap hit.
    11. Smyth needs to go see the vet one more time.

    But none of it matters because you need a good GM to minimize the bad and maximize the good, so the Oilers will continue to suck poop.

    Great list. Agreed almost 100% on the positives. I’d say a bit premature on some of the negatives though.

    1. Whitney does seem to be improving a bit. Doesn’t look like he’ll ever be a 1-2 again.
    5; Who knows? Despite the solid (and understandable) strain of pessimism in the Oilogosphere, the “reading of tea leaves” near consensus that Smid won’t be resigned baffles me.
    6. Really? Ready to call it so soon, eh?
    9. Which segment of time is the anomaly? Let’s wait and see…
    11. Ouch. He’s definitely lost a bit from his game (by eye), but let’s have some allowance for: a) odd season/small sample size, b) his linemates thus far, and, c) being asked to play C.

  31. crude says:

    Kris11:
    If my list is correct, trading Eberle for a Dman is the smartest possible move, especially while there is still a perception that Eberle is as great or better than the other super kids.

    But maybe my list is wrong. They say Eberle is hurt, and he is shooting more this season. So whatever.

    This is exactly my thinking. Exactly.

  32. Bank Shot says:

    Perhaps Nick Schultz looks bad at times because Justin never, ever is back in a position to cover when Nick steps up on a play.

    Perhaps?

    He’s got the best corsi out of all Oilers defenders and the worst on ice sv%. Is luck making him look bad, or is it something else?

  33. asiaoil says:

    We have to pass SJS and PHX and both are reeling and have tonnes of road games to end the year. Next game is big – very big.

    They need some help at the deadline but just as much it should be about helping next year as well. Clear out some crap…Whitney, Peckham, Potter, Belanger, Eager if possible, and see about making a big score for a top pair dman. I’d be willing to see what Eberle and N Schulz would bring back. We do have extra depth at RW, just a fact, but I don’t like Eberle’s contract much either. I do like Stafford in BUF – having a rough shooting season but he’s big and is still driving play in the right direction this year: OFF Zone Start 52.7 / OFF Zone Finish 56.1. A 2nd line of MPS Gags Stafford seems good to me with the wings making up for Gags lack of size. Could buy low here.

    TamboMacLowe’s time to be a real GM or go home – no reason this squad can’t make the playoffs – but just like 2006 the GM sat on his hands and ignored obvious needs. They may not be as lucky this year.

  34. gogliano says:

    My guess is that if you polled LTers on who should go of the 5 superkids, Eberle would draw a majority (and not merely a plurality) vote. Pretty remarkable given what he has accomplished in this league. Love the player but he is getting paid and perception might be greater than reality across the league. And J. Schultz is too precious as the one dman in the group.

    But I’d keep them all as well as Hemsky and Gagner. I like Speeds’ suggestion that clearing out the flotsam makes sense regardless of playoff position; now is the time for this kind of thing. But as for whale hunting for a D man I just doubt it will turn out well.

    But, like AO, if I was inquiring about value it would Eberle.

  35. PDO says:

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=660720

    Felt I should post this here.

    Nothing else to add besides 2 pts out.

    *clap clap*

  36. spoiler says:

    The Bettman point and the lack of point differentiation in the standings is putting a kibosh on trades right now. GMs don’t know if they’re buyers or sellers with pretty much every team a small winning street from the top 8 or better. I don’t think it is going to look much better in a couple of weeks, and that could put a real freeze on movement.

    Thank your Uncle Gary, kids.

  37. bookje says:

    I went to the game with my cousin and I thought I would share my thoughts from the game.

    Shut the fuck up man, I would like to spend a bit of time watching the game and paying attention to it as opposed to listening to every problem in your life and everyone you know’s problems

  38. "Steve Smith" says:

    bookje,

    9/11 was not an inside job, you conspiratorial lunatic.

  39. spoiler says:

    This week holds four off days. This is an important week for Krueger, Smith, Buchy and the gang. There hasn’t been a lot of time for mid-season practice and systems work, but here’s their chance. Zone exits and entries still look like their biggest problem. Defensive coverage in their full court press system, tied for the biggest.

    So far this team has taken a step forward on special teams. At 5 on 5 they’ve taken on higher levels of comp but have been unable to saw off down the line up. Balancing the scoring talent amongst the three lines should help,..

    I also think the horrific hex on the Nuge’s stick has cost us quite a few goals and possibly 3-4 points in the standing, depending on when the goals came. He was fiddling with his sticks behind the bench tonight… if he can reverse that mojo, same with Hall, we should have a better winning percentage in the season’s second half.

    And if Paajarvi can continue to channel his inner Ryan Smyth, well, wow.

    Gagner has been battling more down low in his own zone these past few games. He needs to keep that up. Not cheat so much.

    “Lieutenant Dan” Whitney looks like he has figured out his new set of legs. Building new habits, new angles/lines,new gap control. Right now it is pretty tempting to bring him back on less money as a thrid pairing powerplay specialist. I’d actually be tempted to have him play 3RD so he can’t be beat wide or to the loose puck in the corner so easily. He seemed to pivot fine to his right tonight.

    Thought Jones played like shit this game.

  40. Thiru says:

    Bank Shot:
    Perhaps Nick Schultz looks bad at times because Justin never, ever is back in a position to cover when Nick steps up on a play.

    Perhaps?

    He’s got the best corsi out of all Oilers defenders and the worst on ice sv%.Is luck making him look bad, or is it something else?

    This is a pretty interesting point.

    Schultz is dead last in PDO, and his CorsiON is the highest amongst Oiler d-men (excluding Peckham). For a defensive-minded D, he also takes relatively few penalties (0.7/60min; Smid and Fistric are around 1.4, for reference).

    Given that the Schultzes are seeing middling to poor comp, you would think that his PDO will rebound a bit, especially with the bottom-6 forwards now showing some signs of life.

    Cool!

  41. Genjutsu says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    Yep there are PLENTY of examples of steel framed buildings collapsing due to fire.

    Hundreds of them.

    No there really are.

    In real life, it happens all the time.

  42. B S says:

    Thiru: This is a pretty interesting point.

    Schultz is dead last in PDO, and his CorsiON is the highest amongst Oiler d-men (excluding Peckham). For a defensive-minded D, he also takes relatively few penalties (0.7/60min; Smid and Fistric are around 1.4, for reference).

    Given that the Schultzes are seeing middling to poor comp, you would think that his PDO will rebound a bit, especially with the bottom-6 forwards now showing some signs of life.

    Cool!

    Quality over quantity. When N. Schultz gives up a chance against, it’s usually a doozy. Often he turns it over with a pass across the neutral zone. Given that Justin is typically up on the play, that gives the other team a prime opportunity.

  43. Genjutsu says:

    Thiru,

    Nick is fine player. Stats guys forget to look up sometimes.

  44. Thiru says:

    spoiler:
    This week holds four off days.This is an important week for Krueger, Smith, Buchy and the gang.There hasn’t been a lot of time for mid-season practice and systems work, but here’s their chance.Zone exits and entries still look like their biggest problem. Defensive coverage in their full court press system, tied for the biggest.

    So far this team has taken a step forward on special teams. At 5 on 5 they’ve taken on higher levels of comp but have been unable to saw off down the line up. Balancing the scoring talent amongst the three lines should help,..

    I also think the horrific hex on the Nuge’s stick has cost us quite a few goals and possibly 3-4 points in the standing, depending on when the goals came.He was fiddling with his sticks behind the bench tonight… if he can reverse that mojo, same with Hall, we should have a better winning percentage in the season’s second half.

    And if Paajarvi can continue to channel his inner Ryan Smyth, well, wow.

    Gagner has been battling more down low in his own zone these past few games.He needs to keep that up. Not cheat so much.

    “Lieutenant Dan” Whitney looks like he has figured out his new set of legs. Building new habits, new angles/lines,new gap control. Right now it is pretty tempting to bring him back on less money as a thrid pairing powerplay specialist. I’d actually be tempted to have him play 3RD so he can’t be beat wide or to the loose puck in the corner so easily.He seemed to pivot fine to his right tonight.

    Thought Jones played like shit this game.

    Agreed on Whitney.

    I understand the imperative to use this year’s deadline to cast out the dead wood, but if Whitney is useful (and Kreuger’s usage of him over the past little while suggests that he is), why not keep him around and try to win some games? Same goes for Smyth.

  45. godot10 says:

    Kris11:
    Oilers need a top 4 Dman and a vet top 6 left wing to make playoffs, because Whitney and Smyth and Jones and Belanger and N Schultz aren’t able to succesfully fill those roles.

    They have all cap room necessary and could even take a bad contract to buy it out in the summer. Could also sell picks and prospects.

    So obvious but Tambellini is dumbz.

    Teams looking for a top 4 defensemen at the deadline.

    St. Louis, Detroit, Minnesota, LA, NY Rangers, Philly, Pittsburgh.

    The price of a top 4 defensemen at the deadline is going to be outrageous, which is why the Oilers are probably at least listening to offers for Smid, and are actively considering offers for Whitney.

  46. Ducey says:

    asiaoil:
    We have to pass SJS and PHX and both are reeling and have tonnes of road games to end the year. Next game is big – very big.

    They need some help at the deadline but just as much it should be about helping next year as well. Clear out some crap…Whitney, Peckham, Potter, Belanger, Eager if possible, and see about making a big score for a top pair dman. I’d be willing to see what Eberle and N Schulz would bring back. We do have extra depth at RW, just a fact, but I don’t like Eberle’s contract much either. I do like Stafford in BUF – having a rough shooting season but he’s big and is still driving play in the right direction this year:OFF Zone Start 52.7 / OFF Zone Finish56.1. A 2nd line of MPS Gags Stafford seems good to me with the wings making up for Gags lack of size. Could buy low here.

    TamboMacLowe’s time to be a real GM or go home – no reason this squad can’t make the playoffs – but just like 2006 the GM sat on his hands and ignored obvious needs. They may not be as lucky this year.

    I don’t like Stafford. A big body who has never used it (one hit a game in his career) and is noted for periods of disinterest. He has tools but I think he would flop here like Eric Cole. 9 pts so far this year is not worth $4 million a year.

    The only reason his name keeps coming up is that Jim Matheson is friends with his dad.

    I’d much rather the Oilers go after a guy like David Clarkson in the offseason, who likely will be a UFA.

  47. Bar_Qu says:

    bookje,

    “Steve Smith”,

    Well played.

    Genjutsu,

    There is a backstory to those two guys comments you are likely not aware of.

    I agree on N. Schultz with you.

  48. bookje says:

    Genjutsu:
    “Steve Smith”,

    Yep there are PLENTY of examples of steel framed buildings collapsing due to fire.

    Hundreds of them.

    No there really are.

    In real life, it happens all the time.

    Yeah Steve, how many other times when passenger jets hit 100 story buildings did they collapse? None, zero, zilch, nada. Think about it!

  49. godot10 says:

    Jordan Eberle has been snakebit this season, yet he is still basically in the top 70 point scoring forwards in the league, safely in first line scoring territory.

    Even so, some comparables.

    Jordan Eberle 20 points
    Bobby Ryan 21 points
    Max Pacioretty 22 points
    Tyler Seguin 22 points
    Zach Parise 22 points
    Marion Hossa 23 points
    Nick Backstrom 24 points
    Daniel Sedin 24 points
    Ilya Kovalchuk 25 points

    Some of you guys are freaking out about 4 or 5 points off of the pace of last year based on a 28 game sample size.

    28 GAME SAMPLE SIZE FOLKS

    You guys are throwing Eberle under the bus for a 28 game sample size. Last year he was getting super favorable zone starts. This year he isn’t. He is playing much more minutes this year.

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