RED WINGS AT OILERS G27 (12-13) 15.3.13

If the Edmonton Oilers were facing an expansion draft this summer, would it be difficult to choose 1 goalie, 5 defensemen and 9 forwards who represent the heart of the current cluster?

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If we assume that Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Nail Yakupov and Justin Schultz are protected automatically from the draft (along with the 2011 and 2012 draft class as a whole), can we put together a typical 9-5-1 draft list without losing anyone of use? It’s a fun exercise and does speak to the depth in any organization.

  1. G Devan Dubnyk
  2. D Jeff Petry
  3. D Nick Schultz
  4. D Theo Peckham
  5. D Taylor Fedun
  6. D Colten Teubert
  7. C Sam Gagner
  8. C Shawn Horcoff
  9. C Anton Lander
  10. L Taylor Hall
  11. L Teemu Hartikainen
  12. L Magnus Paajarvi
  13. R Ales Hemsky
  14. R Jordan Eberle
  15. R Mike Brown

Wow. Not a lot of depth, even if you add ufa’s Smid and Fistric on the blue and Ryan Jones up front. Lots of work, Mr. Tambellini.

Edmonton is moving west next season. The new realignment is discussed here. I can’t really get excited about this, the NHL has long since taken the fun out of it for me. Why in hellacious acres can’t they leave things the hell alone? Detroit wants to go east, bring Winnipeg here and no one is going to watch Columbus if they’re shitty so what division they play in doesn’t matter.

Right?

Lordy.

This Mike Brown story is kind of hilarious. Toronto deals him and steps into the elevator shaft. Meanwhile, the Oilers have responded since he scored that goal.

PLEASE for the love of God cheer Shawn Horcoff. Even if its just to drown out the booing, and to remind people of the blocked shot using his face in Detroit spring 2006.

The Oilers are a hot streak away from being in contention for the playoffs, and of course a losing streak away from being in the basement. I’ve always felt this team would blow past the middling crowd (which in the west is far from middling) the moment Taylor Hall found that “next” gear. I think he’s close (point-per-game) and he’s the key down the stretch. This could be fun!

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That’s a funny tweet from dawgbone. It’s true, the Oilers brass is saying things like “we wanted to be in contention for a playoff spot” so the sun is out for the suits. However, as db says, the Hockey Gods seem to enjoy watching the Oilers fall right on their ass when they get above the event horizon and begin shooting for something that matters.

I wrote about college free agent Dan DeKeyser over at Oilers Nation about a month ago, saying:

  • Dan DeKeyser is probably the top college free agent in this year’s class, and he would be an excellent addition for the Oilers. The stay-at-home defender has good size, is an excellent skater and at 22 is a mature prospect. All 30 teams are apparently interested but the Detroit Red Wings may have the inside track (this is based on last spring’s rumblings).

Now I see Richard Cloutier has an article up on the same subject (with much more detail). It’s an interesting item, and as we get close to these college free agents signing it’s something to keep in mind.

Devan Dubnyk has a .958SP in his last two games. You know that won’t continue (unsustainable) but I do think he’s giving the Oilers every chance to win. His .916SP ranks him mid-pack and his 4×5 SP (.922) has him near the top. We should expect some regression, especially on 4×5.

I see Keegan Lowe signed his entry level deal yesterday, good for him. He had a strong year in 12-13, and hopefully he can carve out a career; can’t imagine how tough it must be to follow in the footsteps of a famous father.

The Oilers have some work of their own to do on this front, with Martin Gernat and Tobias Rieder still unsigned. I talked to Guy Flaming on the radio show a couple of weeks ago, and he suggested they might sign Gernat and then send him to Europe. The feeling I got from Guy was that Gernat is too “raw” for AHL calibre opposition. Interesting take.

I don’t have much to say about tonight’s game. The Oilers don’t play well against Detroit, haven’t since Orgrodnick based on memory. It’s time to sit back and cheer for the town team. Go you Oilers!

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  1. bookje says:

    Woodguy was right, Brown has totally been a boon for the Oilers and Toronto is deflated without him.

  2. Lucinius says:

    delooper,

    Don’t think so. Think it happened because of how Paajarvi got some extra minutes due to Brown being in the box, so he double shifted Hall.

  3. hunter1909 says:

    That 2 goal lead again, I’m terrified of it.

  4. delooper says:

    Lucinius:
    delooper,

    Don’t think so. Think it happened because of how Paajarvi got some extra minutes due to Brown being in the box, so he double shifted Hall.

    Ho hum. I want to see THE BALLISTIC LINE.

    Gimmie!

  5. BlacqueJacque says:

    If this were an 82-game season, Gagner would be on pace for 33 goals.

  6. delooper says:

    hunter1909:
    That 2 goal lead again, I’m terrified of it.

    Now imagine how scared you’ll be with the dreaded three goal lead!

  7. hunter1909 says:

    Brown is wonderful. Pajaarvi is making uber plays I wouldn’t trade him for that 36 year old clapped out Wing myself, boy do the Wings ever look like a spent, washed up, and well deserving 9th place hockey team.

    They’re history.

  8. striatic says:

    if a Hall-Gagner-Yakupov line can produce sustainably, it opens up some tantalizing possibilities down the lineup.

  9. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Nice period, especially 91 and 4.
    Potter doesn’t belong out there. A game like this happens way to fast for him

  10. dessert1111 says:

    striatic: what’s the rush?

    why fill up a roster spot before the summer when some people come off of it?

    He won’t count to the 50 man limit while in Junior, just like Musil doesn’t.

    I can buy him wanting more than 4th rounder money. I would too, he’s ahead on the depth chart of first rounders.

    Really, he’ll be on an ELC, so they can’t be that far apart. If 100,000 is the reason why they lose him, I’ll tear my hair out. Not only that, but he’s made the transition to centre excellently, which is where the Oilers have the least amount of depth. They still have some time, but the Oilers always make me nervous.

  11. gogliano says:

    BlacqueJacque: It was for about 2.5 shifts.I just saw 4-10-83 again at the end, though.

    Think it was temporary due to Brown but they looked like a nice tandem. Horc-Hemsky-Hall is a pretty legit line though.

  12. BlacqueJacque says:

    Very impressive effort.

    Red Wings should be motivated – they’re in 8th and every point matters so much more, they’re just starting the road trip and this could be a second loss in a row, they’re relatively rested after 3 days off in Detroit before flying out to Calgary and then having a day off after the loss there. They’re playing their starter, after Gustavsson let them down.

    And the Oilers are kicking their teeth in on the shot clock.

  13. Gerta Rauss says:

    I wonder what a 3 game winning streak feels like.

  14. squeezboks says:

    I haven’t seen the Oilers get consistent zone exits like this in a while. Great support by the forwards.

    Eberle, when he comes down on the left wing, always seems to post up on the half-wall. Detroit has recognized and consistently pressures him with two, usually leading to a turnover. He should change it up and drive to the corner and/or line mates need to recognize the pressure better and move in for that 5 footer.

  15. delooper says:

    Once Jeff Petry hits puberty he’ll be a force on the blue line.

  16. dessert1111 says:

    striatic:
    if a Hall-Gagner-Yakupov line can produce sustainably, it opens up some tantalizing possibilities down the lineup.

    If they keep this together, Detroit will probably try to give that line a tougher matchup. I think the Gagner line has benefited from the RNH line taking a tougher matchup. Gagner et al should be able to destroy most 3rd lines if you’re going power vs power.

  17. hunter1909 says:

    Petry looks like he’s been visiting Fuhr Uni. Explains the drop off in play.

  18. Lowetide says:

    I think the key now is to get Brown on one of those scoring lines.

  19. hunter1909 says:

    Surprised no one mentioning the football player’s son CFL on ice play Taylor Hall made to set up that goal.

    It’s basically Hall saying “I’m walking here” to rest of the NHL.

    We should ask Woodguy to set the over/under on Hall becoming an unstoppable force.

  20. dessert1111 says:

    Lowetide:
    I think the key now is to get Brown on one of those scoring lines.

    What are you drinking tonight LT? ;)

  21. danny says:

    danny,

    Forgot to add the obvious caveat, when you have a front office capable of winning a trade.

  22. gogliano says:

    Looks like Calgary is doing us a regulation win favor tonight.

  23. hunter1909 says:

    dessert1111,

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  24. delooper says:

    Gogliano: What’s a Calgary?

  25. Lowetide says:

    dessert1111: What are you drinking tonight LT? ;)

    Crown Royal. My sister-in-law is a bad influence.

  26. hunter1909 says:

    I don’t suppose Oilers win streak, and my incredible eight days away from alcohol in all forms have any correlation.

    I might try staying like this for a little while longer, just to see if it works. Fuck St Paddy’s; especially after that time I ended up crawling up the street on my hands and knees to get home, and many other irish leprechaun themed adventures too numerous for this blog.

  27. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    I think the key now is to get Brown on one of those scoring lines.

    RK channeling Renney’s Petrell decision from last year?

  28. delooper says:

    Ithaca and Saratoga, eh? You almost hit all the nice towns in upstate NY but there’s a few others. In the finger lakes there’s a lot of cute little towns, like Watkins Glen and Rome. It’s a great area to tour around on a bicycle, stop in at vinyards.

    Naples NY is pretty cute, too. Cuter than Rome or Watkins Glen.

    Mexico NY is not so nice.

  29. Lowetide says:

    Dennis King ‏@DKingBH

    2nd period chances: 10-4; 0-1 ST. After 40 min: 15-7; 1-2

  30. Bos8 says:

    Neh, go to a nice Centennial right out of High River. A smooth rye, who’d ha thunk it.

    Met a pretentious lady who only drank Crown and Coke. A fitting end I thought.

  31. khildahl says:

    Lowetide: Crown Royal. My sister-in-law is a bad influence.

    As soon as I figure out how to upload booze through the internet, I’ve got some Van Winkle to send you.

  32. Lowetide says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: RK channeling Renney’s Petrell decision from last year?

    I’m just kidding. If Krueger changes the top 9 he’s a numbskull.

  33. hunter1909 says:

    delooper: Mexico NY is not so nice.

    I can’t imagine why.

  34. BlacqueJacque says:

    Bos8,

    Another Centennial fan! My go-to, with scotch and cognac being reserved for special occasions.

  35. hunter1909 says:

    Dubnyk needs a cool nickname, like “The Undertaker”.

  36. danny says:

    A pseudo-stat that always intrigued me, and by pseudo, I mean something I conjured up in my head… but how much of a seasob is dependant on how well your opposition has been playing when you face them. Ive long considered creating some sort of script to calculate a value that takes an opponents previous and post wins/losses into consideration. I remember distinctly a few stretches where the Oilers have played multiple teams in the midst of hot streaks.

    Its a luck/variance thing… but much like the shootout, id imagine there would be an expected value based on teams true winning percentages versus teams that are playing within a streak.

    I know its maybe useless in terms of stats due to small sample sizes, but its a real thing nonetheless. Sometimes you get teams at the right time, sometimes you dont. Sometimes it happens in bunches.

  37. striatic says:

    hunter1909: Dubnyk needs a cool nickname, like “The Undertaker”.

    my wife calls him “The Pierogie Monster”, because he is a Ukranian giant, but i don’t suppose that meets the criteria for “cool”.

  38. Lucinius says:

    Ugh.

    Oilers cannot play like this; protecting the lead.

  39. BlacqueJacque says:

    Dubnyk didn’t have much of a chance on that. Just a good play by Filppula.

  40. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Horc got caught in a bad spot there

  41. bookje says:

    Terrible play be Whitney

  42. hunter1909 says:

    The Undertaker needs to lay off the formaldehyde after that goal.

  43. striatic says:

    uh oh.

  44. hunter1909 says:

    That goal has me knocking back water like a drunk.

  45. BlacqueJacque says:

    Ryan Whitney is pretty low on my list of defenders I want facing Datsyuk.

  46. hunter1909 says:

    Another penalty kill broken heart served up by the Undertaker.

  47. khildahl says:

    Looks like the teams both switched back to their regular jerseys in the intermission.

  48. SK Oiler Fan says:

    That’s at least 3 times red wing dmen have set themselves up for a face plant into the glass. Do coaches teach this now?

  49. hunter1909 says:

    3-1 or 4-2 score tonight.

  50. hunter1909 says:

    khildahl,

    The Undertaker probably just doesn’t like his save % getting too high – hence the odd soft looking goal.

  51. hunter1909 says:

    One day they’re going to call penalties to goalies for freezing the play.

  52. Lucinius says:

    God damn it, Horcoff..

  53. khildahl says:

    hunter1909:
    khildahl,

    The Undertaker probably just doesn’t like his save % getting too high – hence the odd soft looking goal.

    Seriously, calling him that really makes me want to see him tombstone one of the Wings.

  54. hunter1909 says:

    Refs suddenly appear to be on “Let’s help the visitors” mode.

  55. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Fin interfetence all over the place!

  56. boopronger says:

    Yup, gagner is the same as wellwood. Whoever said that is an idiot.

  57. hunter1909 says:

    Brown’s playing on the PK!??

  58. Lowetide says:

    That play by Nuge there might be the play of the game.

  59. striatic says:

    hunter1909: Refs suddenly appear to be on “Let’s help the visitors” mode.

    tends to happen when the wings are in town.

  60. hunter1909 says:

    The Undertaker shuts the door – again.

  61. Rebilled says:

    Thought #91 was gonna make me envelop this Jameson.

  62. BlacqueJacque says:

    boopronger:
    Yup, gagner is the same as wellwood. Whoever said that is an idiot.

    I believe it was a dashing silver fox.

  63. khildahl says:

    striatic: tends to happen when the wings are in town.

    I’ll always remember one of the Oilers’ D getting an interference penalty at the Detroit blueline when one of their forwards backed into him in the ’06 series.

  64. delooper says:

    Dubnyk could be called The Big Vareneki.

  65. hunter1909 says:

    Dubnyk’s starting to get into the opposition heads – they know that 1 goal they got was a fluke they can’t duplicate, meanwhile the Undertaker buries their chances and throws them headlong into the grave.

  66. Bos8 says:

    delooper:
    Dubnyk could be called The Big Vareneki.

    What, he’s so big he’s plural?

  67. BlacqueJacque says:

    Heh, Gagner took Franzen into the boards and kept him there. Things I never thought I’d see, #932.

  68. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Wings still smart – realize refs have put whistles away and play accordingly. Zebras continue to be inconsistant

  69. Lucinius says:

    Lack of scoring on the powerplay haunting us again.

  70. striatic says:

    Smid v. Datsyuk

    Smid prevails.

    ‘gonna miss that guy.

  71. delooper says:

    Taylor Hall is the cordless power drill that never loses its charge.

  72. wheatnoil says:

    Hall showing why he’s Copper ‘n Blue’s Top player under 25 for the Edmonton Oilers tonight.

  73. khildahl says:

    That’s an awful awful call.

  74. Rebilled says:

    No, it didn’t

  75. delooper says:

    striatic:
    Smid v. Datsyuk

    Smid prevails.

    ‘gonna miss that guy.

    No way Smid is traded. No way!

  76. SK Oiler Fan says:

    FFS no way wings deserved 5 pps tonight

  77. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers toying with the wings, like baby lions play with those little deer their lion mother catches for them.

    Oh great, another Oilers penalty. 3 in a row? par for the course?

  78. BlacqueJacque says:

    WTF are we in Detroit? What’s all that cheering?

    Ah… nm. I get it. Good job, Petry.

  79. PunjabiOil says:

    Mike Brown – great fucking acquistion Tamby.

  80. striatic says:

    khildahl: That’s an awful awful call.

    it was chintzy but legit.

  81. Lucinius says:

    Petry……… WHY!?

  82. khildahl says:

    Petry, with an assist to the zebras.

  83. Henry says:

    Bettman was a basketball guy. Refs well trained to call the score and the standings.

  84. wheatnoil says:

    Hmmm… so how much of the last 5 minutes can Krueger keep Hall on the ice?

  85. khildahl says:

    striatic: it was chintzy but legit.

    Reply showed the stick was a good six inches away from his face.

  86. striatic says:

    brutal.

    dammit petry.

  87. striatic says:

    khildahl,

    you don’t need to hit the face for high sticking.

  88. hunter1909 says:

    The dreaded 2 goal lead strikes again.

  89. gogliano says:

    khildahl: Reply showed the stick was a good six inches away from his face.

    Yeah, but his face whipped back. How could it do that if the stick didn’t hit it?

  90. danny says:

    Tom Poti is American.
    Petry is American.

    Edmonton hates America.

  91. khildahl says:

    striatic:
    khildahl,

    you don’t need to hit the face for high sticking.

    The rule is ‘contact above the height of the shoulders’. Considering the face and head are the only thing up there, yeah, it kind of does have to hit there.

  92. striatic says:

    while we are at conspiracy theories .. isn’t Petry from Detroit?

  93. SK Oiler Fan says:

    F off, that’s not icing.

  94. hunter1909 says:

    I hope this makes it to OT, or else I’m going to look like a total…

  95. danny says:

    We could still get 2 points so pissing away the extra point against Det is no big deal its not like we are competing with them for the final playoff spot or anythi….. aww fuck

  96. squeezboks says:

    officiating is a joke. again.

  97. striatic says:

    khildahl,

    face isn’t head.

  98. gogliano says:

    Det runs an amazing amount of interference.

  99. Rebilled says:

    gogliano,

    If it’s tying, own goal. It definitely wasn’t a penalty. See: Oilers

  100. "Steve Smith" says:

    Somebody told the Oilers about the transition game; it’s replaced the crying game. Not sure whose penis it is.

  101. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Oh yah, it’s incredible. Van does it to. Helps win games if you’re good.at it and you’re viewed as a veteren team
    gogliano:
    Det runs an amazing amount of interference.

  102. khildahl says:

    striatic:
    khildahl,

    face isn’t head.

    I’m not sure that’s relevant as Brown’s stick was in front of the guy’s face, therefore clearly not touching any part of his head.

    Oh well. It was a given it was going to happen at some point.

  103. Lowetide says:

    Gagner made a nice block there.

  104. "Steve Smith" says:

    It feels like Pajaarvi’s going to score the winner. If it goes to the shootout, put him in.

    (You know what stat tells me to do that? Fucking intuition, that’s what stat.)

  105. Rebilled says:

    The girlfriend just asked why MacTavish was behind the Red Wings bench.

    I told her it was Renney and they hired him after they saw his beard.

  106. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Fk oilers deserved the full 2 poits IMO. 2 early casual PPs hurt

  107. striatic says:

    this is terrible.

  108. Lucinius says:

    Well, I counted 31 missed calls on the Wings, 19 on the Oilers.

    Average from what I’ve seen in games is around 10 for one team and + or – 5 for another.

  109. hunter1909 says:

    Bring back tie games.

    2-2 leave it at that.

  110. delooper says:

    I’d put Smid in the shootout queue.

  111. "Steve Smith" says:

    hunter1909,

    I’ve got a friend who refers to the hockey game, followed by the mini-hockey-game, followed by the skills competition. He’s going to be a great old man.

  112. hunter1909 says:

    Wings animated Oilers looking at the score/clock lmao as if they’re already beaten.

  113. hunter1909 says:

    A highly interesting stat comparison would be comparing 4 on 4 OT to 5 on 5 regular, probably it’s already being done wtf do I know.

  114. hunter1909 says:

    Candy assed play, players scared of the shitehead refs.

  115. delooper says:

    Icing in OT! Wusses!

  116. "Steve Smith" says:

    Bah.

  117. Lowetide says:

    Man. Filthy Russian.

  118. hunter1909 says:

    I wonder but I’m pretty sure there are a few Lowetide posters who think that’s a fine idea.

  119. BlacqueJacque says:

    Fuck you too, refs.

  120. Rebilled says:

    see: Oilers

  121. dessert1111 says:

    well what the fuck was that

  122. striatic says:

    Petry has got to be very disappointed tonight.

    just a brutal game for him.

  123. danny says:

    I love how Gagner pasted Franzen on the game winning goal. And by pasted I mean ghosted. Good times.

  124. Lucinius says:

    Wings dominated the Oilers in the third period on, but they need to buy the refs dinner, and the Oilers need a smoke; they got fucked.

  125. GordM says:

    That’s a rough two plays for Petry.

    PPs in the third…DET 3, OIL 0…sounds ’bout right

  126. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Jagr… damn his eyes!!!

  127. Mark-LW says:

    Fuck you Petry.

  128. hags9k says:

    I can’t believe how pathetic this team is with a lead. There was never a doubt this was an OT loss from the first shift of the 3rd. This club is a joke. Wake me in 2016.

  129. "Steve Smith" says:

    Petry playing to his contract.

  130. Lucinius says:

    Well.. Oilers lost a game they needed to win to drive for playoffs. Still not “out of it”, but man. Oilers had chances galore to end this one before the third period even began. Inept and predictable powerplay and too many “almosts”.

  131. SK Oiler Fan says:

    FS. Zebras brought the wings back into this one. Oilers stopped skating, going to the net, and girecheck in the 3rd. Petry way to casual with Datsyuk. Needed to be tighter to him at the blue line.
    Always thought DD could get away with taller shoulder pads. Still wouldn’t have stopped that snipe though.

  132. Lucinius says:

    Also, someone needs to send the refs a copy of 60.2 in the rule book.

  133. Lowetide says:

    Dennis King ‏@DKingBH

    Final chances: 18-11; 1-3 ST

  134. elgruntus says:

    danny:
    I love how Gagner pasted Franzen on the game winning goal. And by pasted I mean ghosted.Good times.

    it’s all about “gap control”…can’t get too close, now

  135. squeezboks says:

    You can hang this one on the officials. I have said it all along. One sided officiating is bench poison. You feel like you can’t play with any intensity because you will get pinned with a nothing call. It’s like playing through quicksand. Garbage.

  136. Gret99zky says:

    Oilers didn’t deserve to win this game. They played 2 good periods then tried to protect the lead instead of playing their game.

    We’ve seen this time and time again.

  137. striatic says:

    and Calgary won.

    dammit.

  138. Lowetide says:

    I think Babcock outcoached Krueger badly, especially in the third period. Krueger had a nice game going but all of the moves he made in the third backfired on him. The top 3 lines were terrific through 2, I just don’t get tightening so early and going into a prevent defense.

    Petry had a tough game, sure. But Krueger had a tougher one.

  139. sliderule says:

    You can’t blame the refs.Last time I looked we led the NHL in penalty minutes.

    That’s partly poor players but it’s also coaching.Well coached teams don’t take penalties in offensive zone and have players leave their feet on the check which is an easy call for ref.

    The oiler management doesn’t think we play tough enough so players try to respond.

    We wore out our PK as per usual.

  140. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    I think Babcock outcoached Krueger badly, especially in the third period. Krueger had a nice game going but all of the moves he made in the third backfired on him. The top 3 lines were terrific through 2, I just don’t get tightening so early and going into a prevent defense.

    Petry had a tough game, sure. But Krueger had a tougher one.

    a couple of times I saw Babcock let the fourth lines play each other just long enough for the puck to get deep into the EDM zone and then suddenly you’d see TooToo or someone else peel off and Hey! there’s 13 against 13!! yea

  141. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    besides… what this team needs is a good losing streak to finally, hopefully, kill off the dead weight… win too much and you’re stuck with KL and ST…

    ahh hell, we’re stuck with them regardless. crap.

    Seth Jones?

  142. hags9k says:

    Oilers 4×4 strategy…Wait for line change, pass up and gain center, corner dump, change lines. REPEAT.

    Why was Eager, I mean Brown on the ice with 6 left to go up 1?

    40 really good minutes flushed by thinking that by some miracle we would tonight find a way to play effective defensive hockey. Haven’t been able to count on locking down a tight lead since Peca Pronger and Roli skipped town.

    Bedshittin for Nikishkin.

  143. jimbones100 says:

    Lowetide:
    I think Babcock outcoached Krueger badly, especially in the third period. Krueger had a nice game going but all of the moves he made in the third backfired on him. The top 3 lines were terrific through 2, I just don’t get tightening so early and going into a prevent defense.

    Petry had a tough game, sure. But Krueger had a tougher one.

    Agree 100 percent. Taylor Hall questioned why they sat back in his post game interview. Ralph was playing like he didn’t trust his team and was scared to lose. From Management down to coaching this organization is futile. Hall, Gagner, Horcoff and Magnus were all great tonight.

    The D were just throwing it off the glass in the third and therefore we couldn’t get anything going.

    Ralph is quick to tell us the Oilers lost because the players did not play to his system. Is he going to own this tonight and tell us his coaching was horseshit?

  144. danny says:

    Nonetheless… it’s rejuvenating, in a very small sense to be watching a game that means something (in a very small sense) again. Player development is the throne of kings, but competing is the meat of the masses. We have the prime cuts. Time to feast. Smarten up Katz.

  145. Gret99zky says:

    Jonathan Willis‏@JonathanWillis
    ‘Which is why I benched Yakupov for Brown for a while there in the third.’ RT @JasonGregor: “Our mandate is never to sit back.” Krueger

    I call bullshit Krewgs. You tried to shut the Wings down in the 3rd instead of what was working in the 1st and 2nd. C’mon Ralph, take responsibility for your own poor coaching decisions.

  146. delooper says:

    The Oilers played a pretty decent game. They should be happy getting the point.

  147. OilClog says:

    delooper,

    No, they shouldn’t. They went into the 3rd with a two goal lead!!! Horrible.. Price of a rookie head coach in a shortened season.. ouch.

  148. bookje says:

    hunter1909:
    Bring back tie games.

    2-2 leave it at that.

    Why do you hate hockey so much?

  149. bookje says:

    Lowetide:
    I think Babcock outcoached Krueger badly, especially in the third period. Krueger had a nice game going but all of the moves he made in the third backfired on him. The top 3 lines were terrific through 2, I just don’t get tightening so early and going into a prevent defense.

    Petry had a tough game, sure. But Krueger had a tougher one.

    I agree and I am glad they lost because of it. It’s called ‘learning your lesson’. One thing I HATED about MacT as coach is his constant discussions about how making a mistake cost them the game. Players frequently said they were scared to make a mistake. I am pretty sure that about every third word out of MacT’s mouth in the last 3 years of his coaching was ‘mistake’.

    It’s a mistake to worry too much about trying to be perfect because perfect isn’t possible. Play your game and make the other guys make ‘mistakes’.

  150. Gret99zky says:

    Dennis King absolutely crucifying Krewgs on twitter.

    Can Tambi hire another coach? After letting 3 go already and hiring a rookie?

    we wait…

  151. Thinker says:

    I hate to count them out, but barring a miracle the season is over.

    So let me share with you my plan for next year. Keeping in mind my plan isn’t the one Tambo settled on.

    Katz
    MacTavish-Howson Tambo gonzo
    Lindy Ruff Too good of a coach to pass on. I like Krueger, but he has to match lines. So keep him as assistant

    Hall Nuge Ebs The team pure and simple
    Paajarvi gagner Yakupov 1a. Should be good enough to tread water
    Penner Barkov Andy MacDonald Big scoring line
    Smyth Lander Hartikainen Defensive specialist line. should pop a couple as as result of hard work
    Brown Modern day enforcer type. Can play a little.

    Gardiner Schultz Jr. mirror youth movement of forward line one
    Petry Visnovski stud second line able to move the puck
    Smid Schultz Sr. shutdown pairing
    Fistric The muscle

    Jimmy Howard (Number one til Fuhr 2.0 arrives)
    Dubnyk- 1A

    Deadline/ off season Departures (traded though, I want value)
    Hemsky
    Jones
    Horcoff
    Belanger
    Petrell
    Plante
    Teubert
    Vande Velde
    Whitney
    Potter
    Peckham

    *Note: Roster is only built with UFA’s and first rounder. Potential a useful player could be found in one of the above deals.

  152. jimbones100 says:

    Thinker,

    Have you been watching much hockey the last few years? You want to flush Horcoff and add another 19 year old center? That is a lottery team right there. This team needs more NHL players not less.

  153. Schitzo says:

    gogliano:
    Det runs an amazing amount of interference.

    To this day, watching Chelios and Schneider run picks during the ’06 playoffs will spike my blood pressure to unhealthy levels.

  154. danny says:

    Getting outcoached by Babcock is nothing new… but the outcry is kinda new… Renney was putting his troops in terrible situations pretty regularly. the outcries were fairly subdued… and fair enough, so were the expectations of Renney’s roster. Regardless, armchair critic and all such that I am, it’s fair from my standpoint to say that if you want to lay losses at a coaches foot, use the term coaching, and not the name Krueger… because in terms of what youre attacking right now, hasnt changed much from last season.

    Hockey sense tells me what these men have been doing is wrong.
    Common sense tells me I don’t understand certain nuances of coaching such direction.

    Fact tells me that nobody in the oilers front office have proven any ability to recognize and employ any such strategy. So… back to Krueger. Isn’t he an assistant coach for Chicago now? Let’s blame him!

  155. Woodguy says:

    danny:
    Getting outcoached by Babcock is nothing new… but the outcry is kinda new… Renney was putting his troops in terrible situations pretty regularly. the outcries were fairly subdued… and fair enough, so were the expectations of Renney’s roster. Regardless, armchair critic and all such that I am, it’s fair from my standpoint to say that if you want to lay losses at a coaches foot, use the term coaching, and not the name Krueger… because in terms of what youre attacking right now, hasnt changed much from last season.

    Hockey sense tells me what these men have been doing is wrong.
    Common sense tells me I don’t understand certain nuances of coaching such direction.

    Fact tells me that nobody in the oilers front office have proven any ability to recognize and employ any such strategy. So… back to Krueger. Isn’t he an assistant coach for Chicago now? Let’s blame him!

    I think Mike nails in his post.

    http://www.boysonthebus.com/2013/03/16/game-notes-oilerswings-mar-15/

    There’s an outcry now because if they play the way they did in the first 2, they probably win.

    RK didn’t give them that option by getting his two worst possession players out more than everyone else.

    He also didn’t put 10″s line out against Datsyuk once in the 3rd.

    Being killed in match ups at home is inexcusable for a NHL head coach.

  156. knighttown says:

    Agreed on Parkatti’s article. One of the best I’ve read in years. Datsyuk is so much better then every other Wing I’d employ almost a Tikkannen strategy against him…a basketball box-and-one. To have Horcoff/Hall/Hemsky play zero shifts against him in the 3rd is crazy.

    (Krueger looking at shift charts after 2nd)
    Dammit! Babcock keeps putting Datsyuk out against Gagner.

    (Bucky)
    Ralph, you got an 18 year old Ruskie on that line. He can’t handle that matchup.

    (Both scratch chins working toward a solution)
    Can’t get Renney to convince Mike to match Datsyuk with Hall can we? (Guffaws and snorts). Lets put Brownie up there to add a veteran presence.

  157. knighttown says:

    A few randoms:

    1. They are so close to figuring out this three scoring lines thing. They are out shooting and out chancing and have become tougher to match up against. You just know that the “lesson learned” is that more grit or experience is needed in the top 9 and 56 will be out for 28/13 or even 20. 64 might be out too at which point we’ve gone fully loco.

    2. Ralph quoted as saying Fistric was ready to go but he didn’t want to mess with a lineup that just won. I fucking hate this line of thinking. This isn’t witchcraft. Why don’t you evaluate each players performance and make personnel decisions based on that? Cause Taylor Hall went supernova Corey Potter gets to play every night. 56/37/20/28/13/94 should be fighting every day in practice to get in or stay in the lineup. Same with 45/44/24/6.

    3. When you are a terrible team having a player that creates nothing but gives up nothing is a plus. Because you are terrible, by nature your other players are giving up far more than they are creating. However, if you want to be a good team you can’t employ players who’s only purpose is to remove 10 minutes from the clock against easy opposition. The best case scenario with 37 is that 10 minutes will pass with nothing bad happening. If you had a team of 37′s you’d never win a game. You might lose a few 0-0 games in the shootout but you’d never win. Now if 37 can make the jump to being an elite shutdown player who can delete Datsyuk then that adds some value but I see no signs of that.

  158. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Woodguy: I think Mike nails in his post.

    http://www.boysonthebus.com/2013/03/16/game-notes-oilerswings-mar-15/

    There’s an outcry now because if they play the way they did in the first 2, they probably win.

    RK didn’t give them that option by getting his two worst possession players out more than everyone else.

    He also didn’t put 10″s line out against Datsyuk once in the 3rd.

    Being killed in match ups at home is inexcusable for a NHL head coach.

    Really? That’s a firing offense right there. Wasn’t that impressed with Zetterberg last night. Datsyuk was always going to be the guy they needed to check. We’ve hadto suffer through how many rookie players, now we have to suffer through a rookie head coach? Dpesn’t help that Renney was whispering in Babcocks ear all night: This is who’s coming next. Dammit this franchise needed Hitchcock

  159. gogliano says:

    I’ll repeat my broken record:

    Chances are closer to 20% right now by the 50/50 method. Weighting has its advantages but the sample is still on the small side. The preferable method is up for debate, though, and we are getting closer to a large enough sample for the weighting method (I prefer the 40 game mark).

    But 56 points is the guarantee mark for a playoff spot. Using the weighting method, SPS has these odds at the point marks:

    56 – 99.6%;
    55 – 97.0%;
    54 – 87.1%;
    53 – 64.3%;
    52 – 34.6%;
    51 – ~12%.

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