RED WINGS AT OILERS G27 (12-13) 15.3.13

If the Edmonton Oilers were facing an expansion draft this summer, would it be difficult to choose 1 goalie, 5 defensemen and 9 forwards who represent the heart of the current cluster?

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If we assume that Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Nail Yakupov and Justin Schultz are protected automatically from the draft (along with the 2011 and 2012 draft class as a whole), can we put together a typical 9-5-1 draft list without losing anyone of use? It’s a fun exercise and does speak to the depth in any organization.

  1. G Devan Dubnyk
  2. D Jeff Petry
  3. D Nick Schultz
  4. D Theo Peckham
  5. D Taylor Fedun
  6. D Colten Teubert
  7. C Sam Gagner
  8. C Shawn Horcoff
  9. C Anton Lander
  10. L Taylor Hall
  11. L Teemu Hartikainen
  12. L Magnus Paajarvi
  13. R Ales Hemsky
  14. R Jordan Eberle
  15. R Mike Brown

Wow. Not a lot of depth, even if you add ufa’s Smid and Fistric on the blue and Ryan Jones up front. Lots of work, Mr. Tambellini.

Edmonton is moving west next season. The new realignment is discussed here. I can’t really get excited about this, the NHL has long since taken the fun out of it for me. Why in hellacious acres can’t they leave things the hell alone? Detroit wants to go east, bring Winnipeg here and no one is going to watch Columbus if they’re shitty so what division they play in doesn’t matter.

Right?

Lordy.

This Mike Brown story is kind of hilarious. Toronto deals him and steps into the elevator shaft. Meanwhile, the Oilers have responded since he scored that goal.

PLEASE for the love of God cheer Shawn Horcoff. Even if its just to drown out the booing, and to remind people of the blocked shot using his face in Detroit spring 2006.

The Oilers are a hot streak away from being in contention for the playoffs, and of course a losing streak away from being in the basement. I’ve always felt this team would blow past the middling crowd (which in the west is far from middling) the moment Taylor Hall found that “next” gear. I think he’s close (point-per-game) and he’s the key down the stretch. This could be fun!

dawgbone

 

That’s a funny tweet from dawgbone. It’s true, the Oilers brass is saying things like “we wanted to be in contention for a playoff spot” so the sun is out for the suits. However, as db says, the Hockey Gods seem to enjoy watching the Oilers fall right on their ass when they get above the event horizon and begin shooting for something that matters.

I wrote about college free agent Dan DeKeyser over at Oilers Nation about a month ago, saying:

  • Dan DeKeyser is probably the top college free agent in this year’s class, and he would be an excellent addition for the Oilers. The stay-at-home defender has good size, is an excellent skater and at 22 is a mature prospect. All 30 teams are apparently interested but the Detroit Red Wings may have the inside track (this is based on last spring’s rumblings).

Now I see Richard Cloutier has an article up on the same subject (with much more detail). It’s an interesting item, and as we get close to these college free agents signing it’s something to keep in mind.

Devan Dubnyk has a .958SP in his last two games. You know that won’t continue (unsustainable) but I do think he’s giving the Oilers every chance to win. His .916SP ranks him mid-pack and his 4×5 SP (.922) has him near the top. We should expect some regression, especially on 4×5.

I see Keegan Lowe signed his entry level deal yesterday, good for him. He had a strong year in 12-13, and hopefully he can carve out a career; can’t imagine how tough it must be to follow in the footsteps of a famous father.

The Oilers have some work of their own to do on this front, with Martin Gernat and Tobias Rieder still unsigned. I talked to Guy Flaming on the radio show a couple of weeks ago, and he suggested they might sign Gernat and then send him to Europe. The feeling I got from Guy was that Gernat is too “raw” for AHL calibre opposition. Interesting take.

I don’t have much to say about tonight’s game. The Oilers don’t play well against Detroit, haven’t since Orgrodnick based on memory. It’s time to sit back and cheer for the town team. Go you Oilers!

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  1. Smarmy says:

    I’d love to see a hatty from Hall and 5 point nights for Nuge and J. Schultz but reality says they lose this game because this is the Oilers and it’s what they do.

  2. tcho says:

    I only caught the tail end of the game in Cowtown, but the Wings looked very mortal. No semblance of the puck possession machine we’re used to seeing…

    Goilers!

    *clapclap*

  3. Wolfie says:

    Now’s as good a time as any to get on a roll. Now that the lineup is in relative good health maybe they can string a few together.

    For those that have been taking issue with management for not addressing the lack of depth at centre when Horcoff went down, I think you have to look around the league and see that acquiring anything of need is basically impossible. There have been a ton of injuries around the league. Detroit has lost a number of defencemen and haven’t been able to make a deal to plug holes. Ottawa has lost their best forward, best defenceman and best goalie and haven’t made a deal to plug those holes. Kesler in Vancouver… The list goes on.

    I’m sure GMs would love to patch those holes with trades but the reality is the best solution is probably the one that is forced upon them. Move people up the depth chart and ride it out.

    I know the frustratioin is based on inaction from management in the past but reality suggests making trades is just not that easy in this league. End of rant.

    Go Oilers!

  4. Halfwise says:

    It’s been 20+ years since I could look at the Oilers on game day and think “they’ll probably win this” as opposed to “crap, wouldn’t it be great if they could get a point out of this, never mind two points?”

    Wouldn’t mind if they could go back to generating those old thoughts. But it won’t be this season, and the blame for that lies with management.

    Willingly poor at building a roster? Shame on them, and on us fans for our misplaced loyalty. Inadvertently poor, compounded by bad luck? Shame on them for not addressing the weaknesses. Crafting a dynasty while appearing to be incompetent in the short term? How crafty, how very very crafty.

    I have an old-fashioned belief that winning leads to more winning. Losing just leads to recruiting problems, injuries and bad bounces.

    More actual NHL players, please, with a balance of skills, temperament and physicality, and an unquenchable will to win.

  5. DBO says:

    PBOY mentioned a lineup yesterday that had Smyth with Nuge and Ebs and and Lander at 4c. Any word on Lander coming back up? I would like that lineup. It also shines a light on the fact that Jones and Belanger can go byebye. Both will have some value so move em on.

    Issue becomes Whitney and Shultz the elder. Msm talking Whitney extension is scary, but at say $2 mill for 2 yrs I can live with it. Shultz is different. If, and I pray they do, they sign Smid then Shultz is your 3rd pairing LD. Is Fistric a cheaper but equal option? If so, can you peddle Shultz for a RD upgrade on Potter?

  6. regwald says:

    Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

    Based on my conversations with NHL clubs, consensus top 3 college free agents are: DeKeyser, D, WMU; Sustr, D, UNO; Laganiere, RW, Yale.

    Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

    DeKeyser generally considered to be head and shoulders No. 1 guy in this college UFA class, which is considered average, at best, this yr.

    Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

    Kellan Lain, a 6-foot-6 centre from Lake State, may be one of first college free agents to sign with NHL team, maybe within next 48 hours.

    Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

    The Oakville, Ont., native is getting a lot of interest from Western Conference teams, including ANA, DET, PHX and VAN, amongst others.

    IN case you didn’t see McKenzie’s tweets last night on the College FA crop.

  7. Wolfie says:

    One other thing… The Oilers have played at least 2 less home games than everyone else in the conference and as many as 6 less as compared to some teams. Their road record is pretty comparable to all but the top 2 or 3 teams in the conference.

    If they can win a couple in a row here at home that puts them right in the mix. Detroit and Phoenix have both played 16 home games and only 11 on the road. Both have brutal away records. Minnesota is also in that boat having played 14 at home.

    The Oilers simply need to be better at home. The oppurtunity is there to take a big step forward.

  8. Racki says:

    I’ve always been a huge Horcoff backer. Won’t be at the game tonight, but every time I’m there I feel like I have to shut up a fan who’s razzing him. I think a lot more people like him than people would think, but the annoying people are always the loudest. I don’t think people quite get it.. you raz the other team, not our team…. ahh, Canadian fans.

    I’m not so sure how much of the last 2 games being winners was Horcoff’s magical doing, but I will definitely enjoy this moment.

  9. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    “The Oilers have some work of their own to do on this front, with Martin Gernat and Tobias Rieder still unsigned. I talked to Guy Flaming on the radio show a couple of weeks ago, and he suggested they might sign Gernat and then send him to Europe. The feeling I got from Guy was that Gernat is too “raw” for AHL calibre opposition. Interesting take.”

    That makes me wonder whether that would have been a smart option for Marincin and whether Rieder might take the same route?

    At any rate, I can’t imagine not inking them.

  10. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Wolfie: For those that have been taking issue with management for not addressing the lack of depth at centre when Horcoff went down, I think you have to look around the league and see that acquiring anything of need is basically impossible…. Kesler in Vancouver… The list goes on.

    Of course, if they hadn’t traded Hodgson for magic muscles and IRed Malholtra they’d look a lot better at C even without the perpetually injured Kessler.

    also, they could have got Connolly for nothing. probably a better option than Lander, VDV or Arcobello.

  11. Captain Obvious says:

    I’m pretty surprised that lowetide doesn’t like realignment. The current setup is the worst of all possible worlds. I specifically hate the meaninglessness of divisions. Why have divisions at all if they don’t have effect anything but schedules?

    For the regular season, realignment brings back divisions in a semi-meaningful way. Now it matters how your competitors do which, in turn, gives meaningful context to scoreboard watching. It would be even better if there was no wildcard. It makes the competition less abstract. Instead of an abstract race to a set number of points, you are competing against concrete teams, the points matter less, where you are in the standings matters more. This is how it should be.

    This concreteness is then repeated in the playoffs. You have to beat your division to advance. This embodies the competition and makes it more visceral. This is, once again, as it should be.

    Realignment is the best thing the NHL has done in years. The only thing that would be better would be awarding three points for a regulation win.

  12. Ice Sage says:

    Detroit missing Lidstrom now and are vulnerable if Oilers hit them early with speed.
    Adios, Hockeytown, welcome back Murder City.

  13. Wolfie says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Really? Connolly? The same guy who couldn’t crack the Leafs lineup at Centre? One of the few teams in the league that have less depth at the position than the Oilers. Arnott has bounced around a couple of places and been passed on as well.

    I think that’s a case of the grass is greener on the other side.

  14. leadfarmer says:

    I’m amazed at how many people have come towards supporting a 3pt win system. I remember years ago when I would bring it up with people and being laughed at that I should go watch soccer.

  15. BlacqueJacque says:

    tcho:
    I only caught the tail end of the game in Cowtown, but the Wings looked very mortal. No semblance of the puck possession machine we’re used to seeing…

    Goilers!

    *clapclap*

    Tge Wings DOMINATED the Flames for two periods. The only reason they lost the game is Gustavsson sucking while Kipper stood in his head.

    1. We are not going to face Gustavsson.
    3. The Wings are rested, motivated, and angry.

  16. Lucinius says:

    There are aspects of the realignment I don’t like. Not overly thrilled with our division, but figured it’d shake out that way.

    One thing I love about realignment, however, is playing the other conference teams twice each year.

    As for tongiht’s game.. Oilers have a chance to win. But I’m betting Howard stands on his head and Datsyuk.. well, is Datsyuk. Hoping for a big game from Hemsky, Yakupov and Paajarvi. Mainly because I love watching those three play (I find them more enjoyable to watch than the RNH, Hall, Eberle trio).

    Also hope Smid somehow body checks Tambellini into signing him.

  17. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Wolfie:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Really?Connolly?The same guy who couldn’t crack the Leafs lineup at Centre?One of the few teams in the league that have less depth at the position than the Oilers.Arnott has bounced around a couple of places and been passed on as well.

    I think that’s a case of the grass is greener on the other side.

    Or, the grass is worse on this side. Toronto wouldn’t be the first team to undervalue a player, especially one with injury history.

    He would have cost us nothing to give a shot. low risk, addresses a need. and probably an upgrade on group we had in the offing.

    point being… there’s no need to give mgt. a get out of jail free card here. things could have been done.

    ps. this line of thought is hardly a ringing endorsement of Connolly. that should be obvious.

  18. bookje says:

    Captain Obvious,

    Once you hit 50, you are required to hate any change in anything ever.

  19. Нинтендо⁶⁴ says:

    bookje,

    Even when things change back.

  20. spoiler says:

    Wolfie: Now’s as good a time as any to get on a roll. Now that the lineup is in relative good health maybe they can string a few together.

    For those that have been taking issue with management for not addressing the lack of depth at centre when Horcoff went down, I think you have to look around the league and see that acquiring anything of need is basically impossible. There have been a ton of injuries around the league. Detroit has lost a number of defencemen and haven’t been able to make a deal to plug holes. Ottawa has lost their best forward, best defenceman and best goalie and haven’t made a deal to plug those holes. Kesler in Vancouver… The list goes on.

    I’m sure GMs would love to patch those holes with trades but the reality is the best solution is probably the one that is forced upon them. Move people up the depth chart and ride it out.

    I know the frustratioin is based on inaction from management in the past but reality suggests making trades is just not that easy in this league. End of rant.Go Oilers!

    This, this, so this.

    I love LT, but his insistence on this point is bizarre and seems out of character to me. It holds the Oilers to a standard that no one in the entire league has been able to achieve.

  21. Нинтендо⁶⁴ says:

    Captain Obvious,

    +1. And scoreboard watching was dreadful watching a whole conference ladling out Bettman points. This change is the next best thing to losing the Bettman point.

    Even better than 3 points would be giving 1 point to the shootout winner and none to the loser. If you needed a regulation or 10 minute overtime win to get the full 2 points teams would play hard to avoid ties!

  22. Wolfie says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Or, the grass is worse on this side. Toronto wouldn’t be the first team to undervalue a player, especially one with injury history.

    He would have cost us nothing to give a shot. low risk, addresses a need. and probably an upgrade on group we had in the offing.

    point being… there’s no need to give mgt. a get out of jail free card here. things could have been done.

    ps. this line of thought is hardly a ringing endorsement of Connolly. that should be obvious.

    I’m not trying to be a management apologist but there are so many factors to take into consideration. Using Connolly as an example it may seem like a low risk type of move and from here it might seem like an easy move to make. However, when we consider might all be involved in a decision on Connolly it doesn’t seem that straightforward.

    1. Injury history (which may impact the Oilers ability to insure him)
    2. Does he even want to play
    3. If he does, does he want to play for the Oilers?
    4. How much money does he want.
    5. He hasn’t played much in a long while. Will he be in shape?
    6. Is he even NHL calibre anymore?

    Not to mention contract limits, if he’s seeking term….

    All of the things come into consideration and from the outside it’s easy to say do something…. but when all things are considered it makes the decision a little more complicated.

    Besides he’s still under contract to the Toronto Maple Leafs at $4.75 M. He has 9 pts in 17 AHL games. No screaming hell for a guy who made his name scoring in the NHL.

  23. Ice Sage says:

    BlacqueJacque: Tge Wings DOMINATED the Flames for two periods.The only reason they lost the game is Gustavsson sucking while Kipper stood in his head.

    1.We are not going to face Gustavsson.
    3.The Wings are rested, motivated, and angry.

    You forgot: 2. Dubie > Howard

    The wings folded like Lowetide at Kenny Rogers’ table when that 3rd goal got scored vs Cal (which itself was a clinic in how NOT to backcheck) this is something I havne’t seen from them in 20 yrs. They have holes now and less-smart players now and here’s to RFK exploiting them (which he couldn’t in the first 2 games).

  24. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Wolfie: I’m not trying to be a management apologist but there are so many factors to take into consideration.Using Connolly as an example it may seem like a low risk type of move and from here it might seem like an easy move to make.However, when we consider might all be involved in a decision on Connolly it doesn’t seem that straightforward.

    1. Injury history (which may impact the Oilers ability to insure him)
    2. Does he even want to play
    3. If he does, does he want to play for the Oilers?
    4. How much money does he want.
    5. He hasn’t played much in a long while. Will he be in shape?
    6.Is he even NHL calibre anymore?

    Not to mention contract limits, if he’s seeking term….

    All of the things come into considerationand from the outside it’s easy to say do something…. but when all things are considered it makes the decision a little more complicated.

    Besides he’s still under contract to the Toronto Maple Leafs at $4.75 M

    he was waived. there is no issue about 3 or your interest in contract limits/term etc.

    he’s in his last year of a contract. we could have walked away at the end of this year, or simply waived him.

    his only “cost” is Katz’ wallet.

    the injury concerns are real. whether he wants to play seems like a red herring. He’s played this year in the AHL, I see no reason to believe he wants to retire.

    Most players in his position would welcome coming into a new team with an opportunity to play and turn career around.

  25. Clay says:

    tcho:
    I only caught the tail end of the game in Cowtown, but the Wings looked very mortal. No semblance of the puck possession machine we’re used to seeing…

    Goilers!

    *clapclap*

    The end of that game was quite misleading. Detroit beat Calgary heavily about the hands and face for the first 40 minutes, but the results didn’t show. Basically, Kipper had his best game of the season, and The Monster couldn’t stop a beach ball. Calgary got 5 goals on 22 shots.

    Detroit isn’t the same this year, but it’s still an organization with a winning mentality, and a lot of pride. Still, I think with last change, the Oilers should be able to out-pace them tonight.

    4-2 Edmonton.

    I really want MacKinnon or Jones, but I’m tired of cheering for a loser even more.

    Cheercoff!

  26. jake70 says:

    5-3 Edmonton wins. MPS with 2.

  27. Bar_Qu says:

    Adam Hall is available on waivers.

    Don’t know the player, but since the Oilers collect Ryans and Schultzes could they collect Halls too?

  28. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    looks like Connolly is mixing it up!

    http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1375271

  29. Lois Lowe says:

    I like the realignment, I think that the slight advantage to playing in the West is offset by the far easier travel in the East. I also like seeing every team play against the Oilers; as a kid my favorite team was the Devils (I really like cheering for losers apparently) and my parents on a number of occasions bought me tickets for my birthday/Christmas when they played the Oilers. It’s a shame that fans don’t see Crosby, Malkin and all of the stars that play in the East very often.

  30. justDOit says:

    Bar_Qu:
    Adam Hall is available on waivers.

    Don’t know the player, but since the Oilers collect Ryans and Schultzes could they collect Halls too?

    Willis has a good piece about A Hall on ON.

  31. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    justDOit: Willis has a good piece about A Hall on ON.

    http://oilersnation.com/2013/3/15/should-the-edmonton-oilers-claim-adam-hall-off-waivers

    another freebie C. Not sure how you don’t chase him considering our lack of depth at the position

  32. justDOit says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Easy – 49 contracts and they might want to go hunting in the US college FA fest. It’s times like this where the Hords signing starts to look even worse, and that’s difficult to get my head around.

  33. Bar_Qu says:

    justDOit,

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Yeah, I see Willis yakking him up on twitter too. Absolutely perfect pick up for 30 days ago. Before trading for Brown. Or bringing up binder twine and duct tape to fill holes as centres dropped like freshmen at a pub-crawl.

  34. spoiler says:

    Ice Sage: Detroit missing Lidstrom now and are vulnerable if Oilers hit them early with speed.Adios, Hockeytown, welcome back Murder City.

    Bankrupt City. They’re now a ward of the State of Michigan. They’ve been bulldozing city blocks for months because they can’t afford to police them or provide basic utilities. Boy, were the homeless mad.

  35. Lois Lowe says:

    Can someone please explain to me how the NFL can just waive players under contract? It seems so wrong to me and as far as I know, no other major league allows teams to unilaterally decide not to pay a player who has an enforceable contract.

  36. justDOit says:

    spoiler,

    I read a while ago that Detroit was going to turn off approx 2500 street lights to save money, and that the public schools resembled ‘One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest’. Very sad.

  37. justDOit says:

    Lois Lowe:
    Can someone please explain to me how the NFL can just waive players under contract? It seems so wrong to me and as far as I know, no other major league allows teams to unilaterally decide not to pay a player who has an enforceable contract.

    Not really an explanation, but thems the rules. I agree, it seems like a low blow to just be able to rip up a contract that the team signed in good faith.

  38. franksterra says:

    spoiler,

    That may be so but the Oilers have also done far more than many teams to get themselves to the miserable point where such a trade is needed. As the consequences of their choices (or lack thereof) come home to roost in the form of very thin depth at C and roster holes visible from space for several years running, they’ve put themselves in a position where the remedies get harder and harder to achieve. Det, Van and Ott are all superior teams and are by and large weathering their losses, whereas for us even 1 or 2 injuries is often catastrophic.

    If we’re asking the Oilers management to achieve an ‘impossible’ standard it’s because they’ve dug themselves into an ‘impossible’ hole.

  39. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    you’re going want to check this out if you are interested in Detroit’s decline:

    http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1882089,00.html

    anecdote: I was at Comerica Park (beautiful BTW) a few years ago with some friends. We’d go to Tiger games all the time down from London, Ont. We were used to the delapitated building, empty lots, aimless people, etc.

    What shocked us though was watching the skyline beyond the game literally catch fire mid game. One of the buildings across the street (abandoned) started spewing smoke and then flames out the windows of a high rise… needless to say the slow and shoddy Fire response combined with the insane visuals left a striking impression.

  40. cabbiesmacker says:

    Lois Lowe:
    Can someone please explain to me how the NFL can just waive players under contract? It seems so wrong to me and as far as I know, no other major league allows teams to unilaterally decide not to pay a player who has an enforceable contract.

    I don’t believe contracts in the NFL are guaranteed but I’m certainly open to correction. Same goes for the CFL as well. There could be a cutoff point during a season where they have to be honoured for the full year though. I dunno.

    Player isn’t performing? Adios. That’s how it should be.

  41. Bar_Qu says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Wow. Just, wow.

  42. BlacqueJacque says:

    NFL contracts aren’t guaranteed. That’s why signing bonuses are usually so big relative to the contract.

  43. DBO says:

    Hall makes too much sense as a waiver pickup. if contracts are an issue, then trade someone for him. Steckal just got traded to Anaheim to clear a spot, you know, making smart moves to clear spaces.

    Hall is 3 years younger, more physical, much bigger and has the same PK abilities, while being as good if not better then Belanger at faceoffs. If you plan on having a tougher, grittier player for 4th line duties, and one who can play both centre and RW, then you flush/trade/dump Belanger and Petrell. This makes too much sense, so we will absolutely not do it because Ryan Smyth out of position is a better choice.

    Willis has a great post at ON as to why we should. Simple moves makes us better. We can upgrade 4C and could have upgraded out 3 RD with Montador the other day making us a deeper and better team (or just brought up Clark). But because we are dumb with our contracts (Petrell, Hordichuk, other minor league nobody’s) we won’t/can’t do what we need with little tweeks. Toronto just showed Tambo what to do, deal depth players to clear space.

    http://oilersnation.com/2013/3/15/should-the-edmonton-oilers-claim-adam-hall-off-waivers

  44. spoiler says:

    franksterra: That may be so but the Oilers have also done far more than many teams to get themselves to the miserable point where such a trade is needed. As the consequences of their choices (or lack thereof) come home to roost in the form of very thin depth at C and roster holes visible from space for several years running, they’ve put themselves in a position where the remedies get harder and harder to achieve. Det, Van and Ott are all superior teams and are by and large weathering their losses, whereas for us even 1 or 2 injuries is often catastrophic.

    If we’re asking the Oilers management to achieve an ‘impossible’ standard it’s because they’ve dug themselves into an ‘impossible’ hole.

    It takes time and space to turn a supertanker around without running it aground. There are no quick fix solutions to issues of depth. Patience is required. In actuality, it should be obvious to all of us that this team won’t be at the level of depth of the Bruins, Detroit, Sens, Hawks, etc until the generation BEHIND Hall, Nuge and Ebs comes along. If management can get this boat to that point, depth should finally be self-perpetuating.

    Tambo was dead-on with his initial evaluation of the team, when he first arrived, in that there were very few worthwhile NHL players anywhere on the roster. The NHL roster has to be fixed first and then the organizational roster. They have attended to the former by draft which was really the only strategy open to them (although I would have preferred they started with defensemen, but I doubt this community would have had the patience for that even slower tactic, or patience for not choosing BPA).

    So I disagree… From here on in, the remedies should become easier and easier to fix. They’re certainly easier to fix now then they were 2007-10.

  45. Нинтендо⁶⁴ says:

    Bar_Qu:
    Adam Hall is available on waivers.

    Don’t know the player, but since the Oilers collect Ryans and Schultzes could they collect Halls too?

    A new twist on having Hall at Centre.

  46. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Bar_Qu:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Wow. Just, wow.

    “And you shall say God did it”

    that’s a killer line on that East Methodist Church.

    of course we don’t need that “old time religion” to contemplate decadence and decay.

    The case of Detroit — both its boom and bust — really showcases the precarious nature of success and the dangers of collective failure and institutional collapse.

  47. bookje says:

    justDOit: Not really an explanation, but thems the rules. I agree, it seems like a low blow to just be able to rip up a contract that the team signed in good faith.

    Not really, because the contract (or the agreement it is under gives them the right). The NFL players could probably take a stand and say that they want that changed, but the owners would then have to pay each player less to cover for the losses they would have from buyouts and contract burying.

  48. stevezie says:

    spoiler,

    It wasn’t that we should have replaced Horcoff- you’re right that is hard to do. We could have, whoever, probably improved on either Belanger or VDV. VDV was, at best, our sixth line centre. No other team had even a fifth liner we could have snapped up?

    Adam Hall was that untouchable then?

  49. Bar_Qu says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    A good lesson to all of us self-satisfied types here in Alberta – here but for the grace of strong natural resource prices go I ….

  50. stevezie says:

    For the record I feel about Hall the way the rest of you seemed to feel about Hamrlik. How in God’s green can we pass up on this?
    Maybe we call Stevie Y and tell him we’ll take Hall if he trades us a 7th for VDV and a seventh. Voila, problem solved. Heck add Tanner House and I’lll give him a 6th.
    The roster limit is negotiable. In what was does a dirt cheap, expiring contract NHL centre not make Edmonton a better hockey club? Oh yeah, he can play the wing too.

  51. justDOit says:

    bookje,

    I don’t follow the NFL, but I can imagine that it’s more difficult to manage rosters that big with so little revenue (smirk). The ability to just cancel a contract smells bad to me. If NFL managers are anything like NHL GMs, one minute they’re falling over themselves to offer huge contracts to players with one good season, and the next minute they’re looking for ways to get out from under those same contracts.

    Unless the player does something to warrant expulsion from the league, this amounts to little more than a ‘get out of jail free’ card for management. As someone else mentioned here, this capability has shaped how most contracts look in the NFL (higher signing bonuses), which I guess is some consolation for a player who shows up for practice and is told that they don’t have a job any more – sometimes for no other reason than another player came along who the coach values more.

  52. gogliano says:

    Bohologo:
    This site projects the Oilers have a 13% chance to make the playoffs.
    http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

    Of course, this could change given some wins, but my understanding is that it’s not just the number of points out of 8th, but also the number of teams to pass that makes a difference.

    Its 50/50 method has us at 22.9%. I think it is too early for the weighting formula to be very accurate (e.g., it weights the Oil with a -12 goal differential but it is possible their true value is a +0 goal differential team, especially with a 3C), so I think the 50/50 might be a better ballpark figure here.

  53. justDOit says:

    Bar_Qu:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    A good lesson to all of us self-satisfied types here in Alberta – here but for the grace of strong natural resource prices go I ….

    We just have to keep all those free energy ideas buried in the mysticism of internet conspiracies!

  54. G Money says:

    Clay: The end of that game was quite misleading.Detroit beat Calgary heavily about the hands and face for the first 40 minutes, but the results didn’t show.Basically, Kipper had his best game of the season, and The Monster couldn’t stop a beach ball.Calgary got 5 goals on 22 shots.

    Detroit isn’t the same this year, but it’s still an organization with a winning mentality, and a lot of pride.Still, I think with last change, the Oilers should be able to out-pace them tonight.

    4-2 Edmonton.

    I watched the first/mid part of the game, and the Flamers actually were badly outplayed, but scored 5 goals on their first 16 shots. Two were good goals, three stunk. The last 7 shots from Cgy were after Detroit packed it in. Gustavsson was TERRIBLE, Kipper was good, the Flames stunk, the Red Wings were way better, but ultimately the goalie differential outweighed the team differential.

    So no-one should use the Cgy result as an indicator for tonights game – the Red Wings are still a very dangerous team, and if Howard had been in net for Detroit in Cowtown, I suspect Det would have won easily.

    There are a couple of saving graces though:
    - Even when they were dominating, the Red Wings still had a surprising number of giveaways and gave up a high number of odd man rushes. That never happened in the Lidstrom days. If the Oilers have their skating legs tonight, there is a chance
    - In general, the Wings seem weaker on the road than at home

    If Dubey has a good game and the Oilers put forth the same [skating, hitting, puck retrieval] effort as they did in Colorado, this is a very winnable game.

    If either of the above is not there, the Wings will walk away with this one – and we’ll be back to the wailing and gnashing of teeth that occurred after the last spanking in Detroit.

  55. spoiler says:

    stevezie: It wasn’t that we should have replaced Horcoff- you’re right that is hard to do. We could have, whoever, probably improved on either Belanger or VDV. VDV was, at best, our sixth line centre. No other team had even a fifth liner we could have snapped up? Adam Hall was that untouchable then?

    Why didn’t the Canucks or the Sens improve their bottom of the roster when they moved everyone up a spot, if it was so easy and cheap?

    We also know that the prognosis on return for Horcoff changed part way through the injury, contributing to the decision process.

  56. BlacqueJacque says:

    Just a little note from last game. When you look at this graph, you can see why Ryan O’Reilly wanted his money and thinks he’s better than Duchene.

    O’Reilly ate the Oilers alive. Petry, Smid, Whitney, Schultz – just victimized. Not one Oiler in the positives.

  57. spoiler says:

    justDOit: We just have to keep all those free energy ideas buried in the mysticism of internet conspiracies!

    Hopefully no one looks up at the sun.

  58. OilClog says:

    DBO:
    Hall makes too much sense as a waiver pickup. if contracts are an issue, then trade someone for him. Steckal just got traded to Anaheim to clear a spot, you know, making smart moves to clear spaces.

    Hall is 3 years younger, more physical, much bigger and has the same PK abilities, while being as good if not better then Belanger at faceoffs. If you plan on having a tougher, grittier player for 4th line duties, and one who can play both centre and RW, then you flush/trade/dump Belanger and Petrell. This makes too much sense, so we will absolutely not do it because Ryan Smyth out of position is a better choice.

    Willis has a great post at ON as to why we should. Simple moves makes us better. We can upgrade 4C and could have upgraded out 3 RD with Montador the other day making us a deeper and better team (or just brought up Clark). But because we are dumb with our contracts (Petrell, Hordichuk, other minor league nobody’s) we won’t/can’t do what we need with little tweeks. Toronto just showed Tambo what to do, deal depth players to clear space.

    http://oilersnation.com/2013/3/15/should-the-edmonton-oilers-claim-adam-hall-off-waivers

    Montador has played 1 game since a concussion last season… he was never going to improve anything for the Oilers, ever.

    Adam Hall though.. I’d send Belanger anywhere, yesterday to get this done.

  59. DBO says:

    OilClog,

    I disagree. Yes he just returned from concussion (so an injured player fits our team!) but he is a huge upgrade on Potter. A year ago he would have been top 4 for us, and having a 3rd pairing of Shultz and Montador would be solid and the kind of 3rd pair playoff teams have. Instead we have an AHL player playing real minutes.

  60. OilClog says:

    BlacqueJacque,

    Looks like that line had a good game altogether.. other then the losing part. Watching the game though, Duchene was definitely more dangerous then O’Reilly was.

    Duchene can be #1 center, O’Reilly will never but anything but a #2 on a quality team. They’re a very good 1&2 combo down the middle, but when they try to play their run and gun style against a team like the Oilers.. Well our 1&2 are much better suited for that game play, as the 3-1 season series suggests.

    O’Reilly’s lack of high end offense will pretty much mean he’ll never get that big big contract, he’ll get paid but not like a Duchene would get on the open market, imposing offense gets you paid more, no matter what you think you’re worth. Good luck O’Reilly.

  61. OilClog says:

    DBO,

    I disagree.. we’ve seen what Concussions do to a guy(Eager). Montador playing in 1 game since then tells you that he’s isn’t all there, or Chicago never puts him on waivers especially with the playoff run they could have, you keep all the able body defense you can get your hands on.. Especially a guy that could be top 4. Last year, yes Montador is no doubt a huge upgrade, but with what’s gone on recently, he’s not an upgrade for the Oilers in this shortened season. We need help yes, but there is help out there hitting the waivers wires that has been playing games this year. Montador’s current situation leaves him battling with Pecks, Potters, and the rest of them down the line.. I’d give Montador camp invite in the fall.. that’s about it. We have one contract spot left, hopefully it goes to a healthy body. We don’t need anymore “well maybe’s”

  62. DBO says:

    So other then hopefully dumping Belanger, and moving or not re-signing Petrell and Jones, what do we need to fill in our lineup for next year? Now that the coaching staff has embraced the 3 scoring lines, and some semblance of balance, what do we need? And will the Org still push for more size?

    Hall-Horc-Hemsky
    ??? – Nuge – Eberle
    Paajarvi – Gagner – Yakupov
    Smyth – ??? – Brown
    Hartikainen

    So 4th line centre is needed = Lander fills it right now, and a guy like Adam Hall would be nice as a 12th/13th forward since he can play wing or Centre, kill penalties, take faceoffs. Pick him up already.

    Now 2/3 LW is a question. Hartikainen may get there one day, but he is at this moment not good enough. Is it a Penner? Clowe? Whatever they do it almost certainly will be a “power/big forward”.

    On defense Smid resigning would be welcome, but we still need an upgrade at 3 RD, and a LD if they do not re-sign Whitney. And i do not want a kid in there unless it is one of those 22 year old college dmen who can slide in and play much better then a 20 yr old Klefbom.

  63. hunter1909 says:

    Hunter1909′s take: On the next 22 games and their most likely outcome which rests 100% entirely on the shoulders of Taylor Hall, Assistant and Captain in waiting, which is not important yet until these clowns make the playoffs and Hall knows that until he achieves this he’s not getting considered league wide for a whole lot considering what all but the blindest/stupidest Oiler fans have known since before the draft even: He’s already a top NHL star player.

    Before they left Dodge I’d counted on a certain number of points, which they failed to get, yet their 2-0-0 record since the midway mark of this 24+24 double mini-season particularly with the rise of Magnus Paajarvi, who now gets called by a real name, now that he’s suddenly rising up to(good enough to play on the same team as Taylor Hall) NHL player status.

    Tonight’s Game: Detroit are reeling from Datsyuk’s newly minted lame duck status which instantly propels them into glorified Calgary Iginla’s status, imo. Since I’m backing Hall with every ounce of fan hope I possess, I’m predicting at least a OT loss, and a probably 2 point night for all of you loser gamblers out there.

    Not that I would ever bet money on this rigged wheel of nonsense.

    Give me a talkative poker player instead; or better yet two talkative poker players; or even better than that three talkative poker players.

    Prediction: Oilers win/OT loss

  64. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Looks like the big Russian is really climbing up the lists:

    http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=11343

    This kind of heavy competition for the top 4-6 spots bodes well for the Oil if they manage to collapse (very likely)

  65. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Looks like BUF burned a year off the ELC for nothing:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=418266

    was it worth it?

  66. BlacqueJacque says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    You know, on then one hand, they made a mistake, but on the other, they fessed up to it and seem to be dealing with it.

    There was a time when Yakupov vs Grigorenko was hotly debated.

  67. BlacqueJacque says:

    Oh crazy, Barkov has a wicked late birthday. Sep. 2 ’95! Pretty much as late as you can get.

    He’s totally sneaking into the top 4 and is a dark horse for the top 3.

  68. justDOit says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Looks like BUF burned a year off the ELC for nothing:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=418266

    was it worth it?

    Well it looked like a good move at first, to keep him with the big club, but I was surprised that both he and Galchenyuk made opening night rosters. Especially for a center, which is a tougher position to break into than wing.

    But I’m guessing that a fire sale of sorts will commence shortly in Buffalo, and it’s probably best to spare the kid from that kind of upheaval on the team.

    I’d really like to see a ‘wild-card’ rule of sorts for players like this who need better competition than junior, but aren’t old enough for the AHL. It would allow every team to pick one player every two years or so that could be assigned to the minors, circumventing the age restrictions.

  69. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    BlacqueJacque: Oh crazy, Barkov has a wicked late birthday. Sep. 2 ’95! Pretty much as late as you can get.
    He’s totally sneaking into the top 4 and is a dark horse for the top 3.

    MacKinnon is apparently one day older.

  70. regwald says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Looks like the big Russian is really climbing up the lists:

    http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=11343

    This kind of heavy competition for the top 4-6 spots bodes well for the Oil if they manage to collapse (very likely)

    I see that Lazar is now #11 here and Domi falling back – he’s #28. They seem like they are the opposite ends of the yo-yo … one goes up, the other falls.

  71. justDOit says:

    http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=4&id=221043&lang=en&navid=DL|EDM|home

    Anyone else having trouble with the RK pregame video? It gets about half way through and then abruptly ends mid-sentence. I’ve tried reloading the page and flushing the port cache, but nothing.

  72. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    justDOit: Well it looked like a good move at first, to keep him with the big club, but I was surprised that both he and Galchenyuk made opening night rosters. Especially for a center, which is a tougher position to break into than wing.

    But I’m guessing that a fire sale of sorts will commence shortly in Buffalo, and it’s probably best to spare the kid from that kind of upheaval on the team.

    I’d really like to see a ‘wild-card’ rule of sorts for players like this who need better competition than junior, but aren’t old enough for the AHL. It would allow every team to pick one player every two years or so that could be assigned to the minors, circumventing the age restrictions.

    he could have played in the KHL or another Euro league.

  73. Clay says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Looks like the big Russian is really climbing up the lists:

    http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=11343

    This kind of heavy competition for the top 4-6 spots bodes well for the Oil if they manage to collapse (very likely)

    Wow, N’crushcan at #2? I wish I had more to go on than his WJC games, but that goal he scored on Canada certainly was impressive, in a Rick Nash sort of way.

    If the Oilers get a top 5 pick, and assuming Seth Jones is gone, it’ll be interesting to see if they go with one of the other big Dmen in the top ten ahead of one or more of Drouin, MacKinnon, Barkov, or Nichushkin.

  74. BlacqueJacque says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: MacKinnon is apparently one day older.

    Yup. But it doesn’t have to be MacKinnon who slides. I mean, say that Florida drafts Jones first, Columbus goes with MacKinnon. Do the Oilers get a small winger or a big centre? 6’2, 205lbs of Sep. 2 1995 Barkov vs 5’11 176lbs of Drouin on the left wing?

    Perhaps the aversion to picking defencemen too high reigns at the draft, with Drouin going to Florida, MacKinnon to Columbus, and Calgary goes with Barkov and fills a need that’s been there since Nieuwendyk departed town. Seriously, that’s how long it’s been since they had a really good top-line pivot.

  75. justDOit says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: he could have played in the KHL or another Euro league.

    Yes, but he’s already played in NA junior leagues, so that suggests that he (or his handlers) want him to play the NA game.

  76. Captain Obvious says:

    Mackinnon and Barkov are the top two players in the draft. Age matters. A lot.

  77. godot10 says:

    OilClog:
    BlacqueJacque,

    O’Reilly’s lack of high end offense will pretty much mean he’ll never get that big big contract, he’ll get paid but not like a Duchene would get on the open market, imposing offense gets you paid more, no matter what you think you’re worth. Good luck O’Reilly.

    O’Reilly through UFA status will earn $3.5 million, $6.5 million, $6.5 million, $6.5 million if he stays healthy, because he has to be qualified at $6.5 million. $23 million dollars over the next 4 years. As much as Tavares on his 2nd contract, and he gets to UFA status a year sooner. Hall gave up 2 UFA years and only got $250K more per year.

    If one considers the time value of money, or discounted cash flows, O’Reilly has a headstart in career earnings over Tavares and Hall.

  78. godot10 says:

    NFL contracts are not guaranteed. They are basically a series of linked one year contracts. Signing bonuses are guaranteed money, and teams have some flexibility in spreading the cap impact of the signing bonus over the length of the contract. The length of an NFL contract is basically just an means for an NFL team to manage its salary cap. All the matter is really guaranteed money. Tom Brady didn’t take a raise in his recent restructuring, but he basically guaranteed every dollar of the money he will receive from the Patriots over the next 5 years. The last three years technically aren’t guaranteed, but I think all he has to do is pass a physical every year to make it guaranteed.

    The current years NFL contract becomes guaranteed for the current season if you are on the roster after the final cuts before the first game of the season.

  79. denny33 says:

    Clay,

    I am with Clay…. someone posted the odds of us making the playoffs – really low. At this point, I think we should be focusing on the draft and next year.

    Detroit is 9th in the west and has a terrible record on the road. As many people – including LT have mentioned – some glaring holes in their roster.

  80. denny33 says:

    Lois Lowe,

    That is what makes the NFL Great…..

    Owners can correct their GM’s mistakes…..

    HELLO Sean Horcoff. Eric Belanger. etc, etc,

  81. denny33 says:

    BlacqueJacque,

    I saw that the other day….that high in the draft and he is one of the youngest.

    Big upside in Barkov…..let’s play Danis for a few games and focus on scouting this draft.

    Since LT mentioned the list – I have been researching Barkov and it would be impossible to defend our 3 centre’s with balance. Impossible

    Most teams are lacking in their 2nd defence pairing…3rd pairings on most teams is close to atrocious….

  82. raventalon40 says:

    Can other teams make a case of collusion between Anaheim and Toronto? All these deals that they make… are you telling me nobody could outbid Anaheim for Ryan Lasch and a 7th round pick to get David Steckel?

  83. FrankenOil says:

    Per Mirtle:
    James Mirtle ‏@mirtle
    Islanders sign Colin McDonald to a two-year contract extension.

  84. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    justDOit: Yes, but he’s already played in NA junior leagues, so that suggests that he (or his handlers) want him to play the NA game.

    that’s true and with a Russian you’d worry about the allure of all that $$$ over there in the K.

    Still leaving a euro player in the big leagues in Europe for a couple of years seemed to work for Detroit.

    I’m really not sure why a team would ice a 18 year old unless they absolutely couldn’t deny the talent, i.e., most 1st overalls… and even there the player should have to force the issue.

  85. Doug McLachlan says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    I don’t think Grigorenko would be able to go to the KHL as he has a valid CHL contract with Quebec.

    Recall that this issue arose with Yakupov during the lockout. He was only able to go to the KHL when his contract with Sarnia was deemed to be invalid. I’d expect that the contract with Quebec would stand up better.

  86. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Doug McLachlan:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    I don’t think Grigorenko would be able to go to the KHL as he has a valid CHL contract with Quebec.

    Recall that this issue arose with Yakupov during the lockout.He was only able to go to the KHL when his contract with Sarnia was deemed to be invalid.I’d expect that the contract with Quebec would stand up better.

    that kind of inter-league contract issue is way beyond me.

    I guess the question would be… if he can’t go to Europe (or is it just the K?), why can he go to the A or NHL?

    It is interesting that BUF sent him down to jr rather than the A.

  87. cabbiesmacker says:

    jake70:
    MPS with 2.

    If that happens tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Magnus Paajarvi’s life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted.

  88. RickDeckard says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    He has to get IIHF and CHL clearance to play in another league. The NHL and the CHL have a deal in place that allows for players to go to the AHL after their season is over.

    Another deal states that a player in his 18 or 19 year old season can’t be assigned to the AHL before their CHL team is done their season. That’s why it was NHL or Red Deer for RNH.

  89. stevezie says:

    spoiler,

    I would say their competent play even without their excellent centres shows that they had stronger organizational depth than Edmonton did. If they were running VDV an Belanger I think it is likely David Steckel, or Adam Hall, or whomever would have been shifted.

    In fairness to Tambo he is right not to mortgage the future to try and “win now”, but I wish he put a higher premium on winning at all. I think Ottawa’s refusal to tank when everyone said they should and subsequent return to competence suggests their is value in teaching your team to compete and win.

  90. RickDeckard says:

    Captain Obvious,

    Agreed. Jones is nearly a year older than both but and isn’t blowing either away enough to make him the top pick.

  91. sliderule says:

    This is a great draft to be in top five.If you are oilers you could end up with a franchise defenceman or center.
    As to age for the 1994s look at how they did last year and were they would have been drafted.Hall and Yak would have been in the mix for number one the year before they were eligible.

  92. dessert1111 says:

    Romulus, you still in London? I’m from Windsor and witnessed/experienced the downfall of the Detroit/Windsor metro area. Would go to Detroit often for concerts and things like that, and our downtown was filled with Detroit people drinking and gambling. When they took an economic hit, Windsor collapsed likewise.

  93. delooper says:

    I lived in Rochester for a couple of years. It wasn’t hit as hard as Detroit but it took a comparable hit at the same time — Kodak, Xerox and Bausch and Lomb were all HQed in Rochester and were all doing very poorly at the time. So Rochester was more of a white-collar high-end tech town. There’s this street in Rochester called Lyell ave — still to this day if I see some random bizarre-shooting incident news report from the states, it seems half of the time the report is from Rochester and it’ll have taken place on Lyell ave.

  94. DBO says:

    Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
    Ekman-Larsson. 6 year ext. 5.5 AAV

  95. Captain Obvious says:

    RickDeckard,

    This appears to be a great draft. Anybody but Jones should be our mantra. Two rules of first round drafting. Never take a dman with a top pick. Always pay attention to age.

    I’m not too concerned about this draft because I think someone else is going to take Jones before the Oilers. After that, if they draft high enough they can’t fail to get a top player. Anywhere in the top five is near a #1 overall in other years.

  96. commonfan14 says:

    sliderule: Hall and Yak would have been in the mix for number one the year before they were eligible

    Isn’t this true of Jones last year too?

  97. DeadmanWaking says:

    Even if its just to drown out the booing, and to remind people of the blocked shot using his face in Detroit spring 2006.

    In one of the media scrums after the game (maybe the next day) MacT was asked about this play where Horcoff was sliding face first through the shooting lane for the William Tell shot block (Adam’s apple). He replied, “I was thinking ‘A life well lived’”. Genius. One more telling Tell that MacT is not an idiot: in a split-second cognitive moment of “been there, done that” he plows right though denial. anger. bargaining, depression all the way to acceptance.

    Cognition and emotion run on parallel tracks. Emotion is usually a bit of a milk run, stopping in ten different burbs of New Brunswick to transact a single passenger coming or going. Cognition, however, is capable of going: Screw New Brunswick–we can make Montreal to Halifax five hours quicker. “But what if President Obama is clicking his heels in Miramichi? We could get in a lot of trouble,” the lizard complains.

    If a person has the life experience that their Express Bus usually gets the job done, you see this very quick thought progression from Alive to Burial. If a person has mainly experienced that forsaking the Milk Bus for the next bus over–that sure looks like an express bus–then happily drooling on the adjoining head rest until, with a gut-wrenching waking shock of no-salt-air, the driver flushes him onto the desolate 3:00 A.M. transfer platform in beautiful downtown Kenora, it will be a long time coming before the next attempted milk-run evasion. Of course, one can always make pretense we wanted to visit Kenora in the first place because of the famous … uh … big nature untrammeled–uh … by the grace of desolate remoteness. (This is why no-one trusts the glib.)

    [Writer's aside: I suspect I've never written the word "untrammeled" before, as I confine this kind of thing to cliché for effect. But who cares? The triple word score here is to fit "untrammel" into a sentence and not have it stick out like Conrad Black at a Legionnaires' pot-luck dinner. Even my spell checker is alarmed at the thought: it approves of "untrammeled" but underlines "untrammel" in harsh, wavy red; surely that nice word is not what you meant. This would be all fine and good if I had manually enabled "Crash Davis mode" to save me from myself. Sadly, the warrior against cliché suffers many outrageous slings and arrows.]

    While trying to turn that last phrase in a different direction I dredged this up from the Al Gore: Military Terms of the Modern Era

    PALACE GUARD
    that group of absolutely loyal defenders who are more dedicated to the military than to the country, believing that protection of the military is the same as protection of the nation, and that making the military look good is the same as making the nation look good; from that ancient coterie of trusted BODYGUARDs, such as eunuchs, also called “Praetorian Guard”. This myopic trait is characteristic of LIFERs, who willingly excuse or cover-up military mistakes, expecting reciprocity for their sacrifices, and who are often disillusioned by the disregard of such an impersonal institution.

    Recall that I do actually like Don Cherry. And I like David Allen, too, despite my sarcasm yesterday. A blind-spot does not a bad person make.

    The movie not finally named I’m Pat Fucking Tillman interviews exactly such a dismissed General emotionally at sixes and sevens over having been thrown under the bus for putting up a good face on friendly fucknut fire. Unlike MacT, this fellow (the General, not the fucknut) has definitely boarded the emotional Milk Run in his futile quest to make his peace with sucks-shit reality. He’s traveling from A to B with all the guile of an infant fresh from the crib newly introduced to the other twenty-four colourful wooden blocks.

    BTW, that resource I’ve quoted is a thing of beauty. It’s neither a dictionary, nor a thesaurus, but it sure knows the sweat-drenched ropes.

    Okay, that’s all I can write today with my game-day “Deep Thought” restraining-bolt lock-nut torqued down with mil-spec perfunction.

  98. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    dessert1111,

    I’m in Toronto now. Haven’t been back to Detroit since I left London. The ball games here are cheap and a subway ride away… but the stadium and the atmosphere is crap by comparison.

    I’ve been to Windsor a few times… the small downtown was nicer than I expected to be honest, but that is not exactly a city “on the march!” I recall seeing a lot of “rub and tugs”

    delooper,

    Never been to Rochester, but a friend of mine was from Albany so I managed to see a fair amount of up-state… Ithica and Saratoga Springs were both really nice… the rest was basically one long view of regional economic depression.

    Buffalo is a like a clean ghost town.

  99. spoiler says:

    I’m stuck in a calgary bar… Does anyone know which of the Shaw 300 channels the SD version of this game is on?

  100. striatic says:

    shame to see Calgary beating up on Nashville.

    i hope the predators can turn things around.

  101. Lowetide says:

    Gene’s prop budget annually can’t be over $30.

  102. DBO says:

    spoiler,

    might be 302.

  103. striatic says:

    Principe is slowly making his case for the HHoF.

  104. spoiler says:

    DBO:
    spoiler,

    might be 302.

    Thx bro. That would be the HD one though, is it free tonight?

  105. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    I’ve got the DET feed. miss gene.

    but they are really talking up Horcov… someone appreciates him!

  106. DBO says:

    spoiler,

    Should be, it’s the Oilers blackout channel for Sportsnet. Don’t have Shaw anymore, but that was the one (been in Calgary for 2 years)

  107. spoiler says:

    Yup, its there, thanks DBO.

  108. Lucinius says:

    Yay, Hall. Love that first line.

  109. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    I, a grown man, alone in my house, just yelled “supernova”….

    weird and wonderful experience.

  110. VanOil says:

    Detroit commentator is not sure what happened. Hall happened.

  111. Lowetide says:

    Hall the wrangler.

  112. Rebilled says:

    Hall’s wallet is the one that says Bad Mother Fucker.

  113. wheatnoil says:

    Hall creates something out of nothing. The guy’s a freaking beast.

  114. wheatnoil says:

    This new Eager is a little more fun to watch than the last one.

  115. striatic says:

    Brown’s hit looked dangerous .. just a little closer to the boards and that’s head trauma.

  116. delooper says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:

    Never been to Rochester, but a friend of mine was from Albany so I managed to see a fair amount of up-state… Ithica and Saratoga Springs were both really nice… the rest was basically one long view of regional economic depression.

    Buffalo is a like a clean ghost town.

    Rochester and Buffalo have a similar feel, Buffalo is a tad more blue-collar, and larger.

    Ithaca and Saratoga, eh? You almost hit all the nice towns in upstate NY but there’s a few others. In the finger lakes there’s a lot of cute little towns, like Watkins Glen and Rome. It’s a great area to tour around on a bicycle, stop in at vinyards.

    Regarding the announcers talking up Horcoff it’s the Michigan connection.

    Nice goal Mr. Hall. Just walked right in there.

  117. BlacqueJacque says:

    Hall fantastic and I really like Brown. He may be my irrational, against-all-statistical-evidence favorite.

    Hell, what if the meatheads are right? What if Brown is the reason the Oilers are winning and Leafs are losing? Maybe there’s some mystical aura about him?

    Also, it’s really impressive seeing how the Oilers are keeping up with a motivated, rested Detroit team playing its starter.

  118. Lowetide says:

    Dillon Simpson with a goal, Jujhar Khaira with a goal, McCarron assist, Rieder 2 assists.

  119. VanOil says:

    Even Hemsky is on the bench yelling SHOOT.

  120. BlacqueJacque says:

    Did I just see Horcoff rob Datsyuk?!

  121. striatic says:

    what is Rieder’s PPG this year now?

  122. Lowetide says:

    WHERE is the crowd?

  123. striatic says:

    the crowd is probably a little rusty.

  124. DBO says:

    Lowetide,

    twitter says LRT issues. I assume its true since twitter never lies

  125. hunter1909 says:

    What a nice easy game for the OIlers.

  126. hunter1909 says:

    Red Wings broadcasters very impressed by young Oiler’s speed – hands and feet have been mentioned with awe lol.

  127. DBO says:

    trade that bum

  128. BlacqueJacque says:

    Heh, Filppula is the Wings first Finn?! The team with all those Swedes and Russians and probably some other dirty Euros didn’t have a Finn for that long?

  129. hunter1909 says:

    Wings are like Monty Pythons’ Black Knight. They can’t imagine being anything but a top tier, feared and respected juggernaut – instead of the second rate, mediocre bunch of hacks we’re getting tonight.

  130. BlacqueJacque says:

    Oh jeez Laddy you’ve got Nuge and Eberle on the rush with you and you shoot?

  131. hunter1909 says:

    Wing’s announcers practically chanting the names of various “big” Wings…the usual tired and soon leaving for Russia suspects….like they’re going to make it all happen and somehow help make these mediocre Old Wings into scoring sensations.

  132. BlacqueJacque says:

    “What are you going to do, bleed on me?”

    The entire scene makes my stomach hurt with laughter.

  133. hunter1909 says:

    Healthy in the Taylor Hall department Oilers make the playoffs; otherwise it’s no way.

  134. sliderule says:

    Rieder with three assists .Zharkov with goal and assist.

  135. VanOil says:

    One of the #13′s playing tonight has some skill.

  136. hunter1909 says:

    Red Wings really showed the Oilers what’s what just before the period ended, before retiring to the dressing room down 0-1.

  137. danny says:

    It never really occurred to me before, and maybe its the Newfoundlands finest (India Beer) speaking… but Eberle has always been lauded for his offense and when that slows down people worry about his contract.

    Is it possible Eberle has been the bus driver for the kid line in advanced stats that love them? It just seems like he is a possession machine and always making smart plays to keep the play inside the offensive zone. Granted he has defensive warts, but thats a lot of saw him bad in certain aspects.

    He just feels like a guy that you just expect to make a play and keep posession alive. It’s not the norm for a kid. As dynamic and talented 83 has been, ive never felt that about him.

    Ok time for another India.

  138. Lucinius says:

    Decent, but not great period.

    Oilers needed to cash on one of their powerplays. Anytime you get out of a period ahead of the Wings its a decent period, though.

  139. khildahl says:

    DBO:
    Lowetide,

    twitter says LRT issues. I assume its true since twitter never lies

    It’s true. Much like the Oilers, when one of the four C’s isn’t working properly, the whole goddamned system breaks down.

    Also, the traffic on 118th is backed-up farther than the line behind Dustin Penner at a pancake house.

  140. gogliano says:

    Our powerplay has really turned terrible. Fancy Dan disease or something. Not sure what happened to RNH’s pp wizardry from last year, either. Oileritis still the problem (shoulder injury)?

  141. Lowetide says:

    sliderule:
    Rieder with three assists .Zharkov with goal and assist.

    This is very good.

  142. sliderule says:

    Nuge has got to be hurting .I have seen him get his stick knocked out of his hands three times in last few games.
    Looks to be playing careful.

  143. dessert1111 says:

    Why hasn’t Rieder been signed yet? Should we be worried? According to the Rangers Report blog, other NHL teams are interested and he needs to be signed by June by Edmonton. Would they trade him? I hope they sign him very soon, he’s centring the first line in Kitchener, ahead of Faksa who is their 2C.

  144. striatic says:

    dessert1111: Why hasn’t Rieder been signed yet? Should we be worried? According to the Rangers Report blog, other NHL teams are interested and he needs to be signed by June by Edmonton.

    what’s the rush?

    why fill up a roster spot before the summer when some people come off of it?

  145. sliderule says:

    He probably wants more than fourth rounder.We need money to resign Petrell so we may not be able to sign.
    Seriously if they let him walk they haven’t learned anything.

  146. striatic says:

    DET broadcast team comparing Hall’s moves to Datsyuk’s.

    that’s rather generous, but nice to hear nonetheless.

  147. SK Oiler Fan says:

    RK needs to get Hall out there more. He’s a raging bull tonight.
    MP wirh another nice drive to the net!

  148. BlacqueJacque says:

    Ah, poked away :(

  149. fuzzy muppet says:

    One foot from the net and Hall passes. christ

  150. BlacqueJacque says:

    fuzzy muppet,

    Replay showed a good poke by Howard.

  151. striatic says:

    SK Oiler Fan: MP wirh another nice drive to the net!

    last year he cuts in and gets tangled up on the backhand into the goalie.

    i think he’s a little more explosive this year and is able to cut in a little earlier than he could before.

  152. striatic says:

    J. Schultz with a great shift there. End to end collecting his own chip in.

  153. BlacqueJacque says:

    He’s stronger, too. Able to lean in on defencemen better.

  154. BlacqueJacque says:

    Oh good gravy Hemsky do you know our end-boards or what?

  155. hunter1909 says:

    Petrell shows his Gretzkyesque skills for all to see.

  156. fuzzy muppet says:

    fuzzy muppet,

    Missed that… thanks

  157. delooper says:

    Wow, Hemsky is about the best play-with-myself player I think I’ve ever seen.

  158. striatic says:

    BlacqueJacque,

    definitely. last two years on that play the D-man pushes him into the goalie.

  159. Lucinius says:

    Hemsky; Master of the ‘Almost’.

  160. VanOil says:

    This period is so entertaining I have barely touched my ruby red Guinness. Thank goodness for commercials.

  161. hunter1909 says:

    VanOil,

    I haven’t had a drink in 8 days.

  162. SK Oiler Fan says:

    What a rush! Took 4.3 seconds to get from DD to Howard

  163. BlacqueJacque says:

    Huh, a good decision by Potter. Here, Potter, have a compliment.

    Let that hold you over until Easter or so.

  164. Lucinius says:

    Potter, Potter, Potter…..

  165. delooper says:

    I’m a Honda guy now! No more Detroit!

  166. VanOil says:

    hunter1909:
    VanOil,

    I haven’t had a drink in 8 days.

    I will drink the gallon (8) tonight in honor of your will power.

  167. hunter1909 says:

    Dubnyk > Ty Conklin.

  168. VanOil says:

    The other #13 has quick hands too.

  169. BlacqueJacque says:

    Tootoo had enough, huggy beared Brown but the linesmen let Brown keep going … because they hate Tootoo? Hahahaha

  170. striatic says:

    Petrell is a very frustrating player.

    has the Hockey Sense to get to the right spots, but none of the tools to capitalize on his positioning.

  171. russ99 says:

    You go Browny!

  172. BlacqueJacque says:

    Magnus with a beautiful little backcheck and then makes his way to the front of the net.

  173. delooper says:

    MPS is growing up soooo fast!

  174. Lucinius says:

    Nice tussle by Brown.

    Paajarvi continues to show he might just have gotten “it”.

  175. SK Oiler Fan says:

    89 has made a bunch of nice little plays tonight

  176. striatic says:

    seeing Renney on the ‘wrong bench’ is weirding out my wife.

    me too, honestly.

  177. delooper says:

    “a lot of young, goooood-looking hockey players.” Detroit feed talking about Edmonton.

  178. Danenbaum says:

    Well, I’d say Potter has earned himself a benching.

  179. hunter1909 says:

    Potter would put Bobby Orr to shame with that move.

  180. Lucinius says:

    Hot damn!

  181. BlacqueJacque says:

    GAGNER! Hall does all the hard work, Yakupov picks it up and Gagner puts it away.

    A new line, mayhaps?

  182. striatic says:

    Yak + Hallsy 4eva

    sorry ebs.

  183. delooper says:

    The Gagner-Yakupov PANIC!

  184. BlacqueJacque says:

    striatic:
    seeing Renney on the ‘wrong bench’ is weirding out my wife.

    me too, honestly.

    I wanted to say that but didn’t want to look weird. It’s too soon! He looks unchanged.

  185. VanOil says:

    Yak, celly for DD the other night was great, for Gagner tonight great. I love this kid.

  186. SK Oiler Fan says:

    That’s just all outworking the opponents there. Love it. Nice to see it happening to the wings for a change

  187. hunter1909 says:

    Where’s Bertuzzi? In jail?

  188. BlacqueJacque says:

    Yup, seems to be a new line. 4-89-64.

  189. BlacqueJacque says:

    hunter1909:
    Where’s Bertuzzi? In jail?

    Lingering injury of some sort.

  190. bookje says:

    Why do people call Tambellini Mr. Dithers?

    It looks to me like he traded every player on the team from 2 weeks ago.

  191. hunter1909 says:

    Just a nice, easy home game against patsy opposition. It’s no harder than a practice.

  192. delooper says:

    Hall-Yakupov-Gagner is a line now?

  193. Lowetide says:

    Man. This team has some things!

  194. BlacqueJacque says:

    I am so impressed by these Oilers, I’m almost no longer ashamed to admit I’m an Oilers fan.

  195. delooper says:

    I’d go Hall-Yakupov-Hemsky. Call it the ballistic line.

  196. BlacqueJacque says:

    delooper:
    Hall-Yakupov-Gagner is a line now?

    It was for about 2.5 shifts. I just saw 4-10-83 again at the end, though.

  197. danny says:

    Nothing against the player, but considering the numbers, 89 should be getting the Chris Stewart trade high consideration about now.

  198. delooper says:

    Lowetide:
    Man. This team has some things!

    A lot of young gooooooood GOOOOOD looking…. hockey players.

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