SHARKS AT OILERS G29 (12-13) 19.3.13

As we get closer to the trade deadline, we’re going to hear more “Oilers scouts at Washington game” tweets and stories. The Oilers are extremely unlikely to trade part of the future for help immediately, but I think they are probably looking to add some pieces long term if they are available. Things like:

  • A tough forward who can play on the skill line (Brouwer family).
  • A LH 2-way defenseman (Bouwmeester family).
  • A solid goaltender who can push Dubnyk without being miscast as backup (Bishop). Sens are looking btw.

Beyond that, I don’t really see the point in making a deal. All other spots either have an internal option or Edmonton would be better served in waiting until summer.

Summer is also a better time to offload impact players with term like Hemsky, but I’ve included him here because you never know and 83 is unlikely to be here for the long term (his replacement–Yakupov–is here). I suspect the Oilers will make a decision on Hemmer around the draft. Among the current Oilers who either have term left on their deal or will be RFA this summer, I can see the following being dealt:

  1. Ales Hemsky (UFA 2014): The Oilers were not getting strong offers for him a year ago (the rumored return was a 2nd and a 4th from Nashville).
  2. Ben Eager (UFA 2014): One year left at $1.1M and the concussion issues are a concern. Plus he’s been on waivers.
  3. Eric Belanger (UFA 2014): Makes $1.75M and might fill a need for a 4line C, faceoff guy and penalty killer.
  4. D Theo Peckham (RFA 2013): Forgotten man among the Oilers, but he’s a defenseman with NHL experience and that has value.

And here’s my UFA list:

  1. Ladislav Smid (UFA): Edmonton hasn’t signed him yet and that might mean there’s a gap between agent and team in terms of zero’s on the contract. Smid is going to get paid, the Oilers have to figure out if they want to be the team to pay him.
  2. Ryan Whitney (UFA): Defensemen always have increased value at the deadline, Whitney is a veteran and a team with depth who could play him on the 3rd pairing plus PP might want him for that role. My guess is they surprise everyone and get a 3rd rd pick for the veteran.
  3. Mark Fistric (UFA): I think the Oilers sign him in the next few weeks, it is clear they like Fistric plenty. However, if a team came calling and management were of a mind to trade him I doubt the club would get less than the pick they gave up for him (3rd rd pick).
  4. Ryan Jones (UFA): He’s coming off an eye injury, but his wheels are fine. An NHL team might want to increase their offense in the bottom 6F and have a guy who isn’t afraid to get his hands dirty, either.
  5. Nikolai Khabibulin (UFA): Hasn’t played in awhile, extreme longshot to play in another city at this point. Will the Oilers re-sign him?

Eric Belanger remains on IR. Story here.

Krueger unleashed part of his philosophy on the game yesterday, Terry Jones has the story here. I won’t quote the entire article (it’s a worthwhile read) but did want to grab two passages:

  • Krueger: “You need leaders physically. That is a skill that is not considered a skill by many people. For me it’s a huge skill, to be able to play physically, to be a physical presence, to wear down the other team’s defence.”

I have no argument with that statement, but the Oilers have employed physical players who can’t do many of the other things that contribute to winning: passing, taking a pass, staying in the proper defensive position, not taking dumb penalties, not getting out of position to make a big hit–those sorts of things.

One of the best things about the Krueger is that he’s culled the herd–Hordichuk and then Eager on waivers and in OKC–and credit too should be passed along to the Lowe trio for adding Fistric and Brown. Both appear to be better versions of a player type Edmonton feels they need in order to win. We’re a long way from Steve MacIntyre.

  • Krueger: “ There are things that are unmeasurable in statistics. Consistent gapping of the opposition Taking away of space. All of those things make the identity of what the Edmonton Oilers want to be.”

I think you’d be able to see positives in Corsi results over time, no? Either way, I understand the point he’s making and it certainly offers insight into his reasoning re: Yakupov in the third period. Read the situation, remember where you’re supposed to be.

Ralph Krueger is a man with a plan.

Two Oiler prospects who have emerged this winter–Jujhar Khaira and Dillon Simpson–will be the subject of an upcoming blog. Simpson turned 20 a month ago and is having a terrific year. When we discuss players turning pro, I think we can safely include him as a possibility based on merit.

San Jose has been struggling for awhile now, this would appear to be a winnable game for the Oildrop. I’ll tell you this: if they win tonight the standings have a chance to look a lot better in the morning:

standings mar 20

 

Colorado, Calgary and Nashville have the look of teams falling away, but a quick to game winning streak for any of these teams changes everything. The Oilers are 3-0-1 in their last 4, and if they can grab 10 points in their 7 games before the deadline (not too hard a task if they’re serious about making the post-season) they should arrive at the deadline in playoff contention.

I spoke with Jason Strudwick on the radio show last weekend about the deadline, and he told me adding a player at the deadline gives a club a tremendous lift, while offloading a key part of the team is difficult to overcome (obvious, but he put it in very specific terms–worth a listen).

Will they add a Ben Bishop? A Mark Streit? A Troy Brouwer? I think we’ll see the Oilers import and export between now and the deadline. No one can argue this team isn’t making every effort, and no one can suggest they are not getting results:

who's hot

 

Come on, Tambellini. You owe it to your Oilers to make a deal that improves their chances. God knows you owe it to the fanbase.

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  1. Lucinius says:

    Gret99zky,

    To be fair, RNH hasn’t exactly been at his last year’s mastery on the powerplay this year either.

  2. Lucinius says:

    Eberle needs to start practicing with a tennis ball if the puck tonight is any indication.

  3. hunter1909 says:

    Could someone please explain why the Sharks aren’t a SC fave this year? Their powerplay looks great. And they really know how to play defence.

    What gives?

  4. Derek says:

    SCORECOFF!

  5. Woodguy says:

    Oh Kaptain My Kaptain!

    o

  6. hunter1909 says:

    Even Horcoff can score, even Horcoff.

    If they make the playoffs, I’ll never say another word against him. Ever.

  7. VanOil says:

    The most improbable 3 man break in Oilers history.

  8. delooper says:

    They should make that a line, Horcoff-Schultz-Petrell!

  9. Lucinius says:

    Whiffcoff!!!!!

  10. wheatnoil says:

    We totally need to buy out that Dirty Russian!

  11. Kert says:

    delooper,

    I was surprised they got a shot, let alone a goal. :)

  12. dessert1111 says:

    Well I’m officially on the Petrell bandwagon. Keep this guy, he’s got offense, it’s just only short-handed!

  13. Rebilled says:

    Nick S. should play like he’s mad at the refs all the time.

  14. hunter1909 says:

    Kert: I was surprised they got a shot, let alone a goal.

    How many rushes has Horcoff taken that he DIDN’T score before that one? 2,300x?

    This is a game they cannot possibly lose, after the captain scores on a rush.

  15. Lucinius says:

    VanOil,

    Nah. Most improbable (of those currently in the line-up);

    Fistric carrying the puck in, the trailing Oiler as Nick Schultz and Smid as the Oiler on the far side (Horc’s spot on that goal) to bang the bugger in.

  16. hunter1909 says:

    This would be a classic playoff matchup.

  17. Ice Sage says:

    dessert1111:
    Well I’m officially on the Petrell bandwagon. Keep this guy, he’s got offense, it’s just only short-handed!

    To be fair, his assist did occur when short handed…

  18. Scotty LaDouche says:

    The San Jose D man could not have deflected that any better to Horcoffs stick.

  19. Lucinius says:

    I think the Sharks D are afraid of Hemsky. They keep backing away from him.

  20. Rebilled says:

    ‘Get out of my way Sharkfeces’ – Ales Hemsky

  21. Genjutsu says:

    The vets on this team suck ;)

  22. BlacqueJacque says:

    Wow, it’s like Magnus the Magnificent out there this period.

  23. fuzzy muppet says:

    Wonderful shift by 91. Takes it to the net twice and then breaks up the rush twice with back checks…

  24. delooper says:

    Lucinius,

    Ales Hemsky is well-known to be a bad-bad man.

  25. hunter1909 says:

    Hartski’s playing better tonight than I’ve ever seen/noticed before.

    Pajaarvi’s blossoming into an absolutely cool NHLer.

    Yaks is well…Yaks.

    Overall I’d say Kreuger’s doing a heck of a job developing these guys.

  26. Woodguy says:

    Lucinius:
    VanOil,

    Nah. Most improbable (of those currently in the line-up);

    Fistric carrying the puck in, the trailing Oiler as Nick Schultz and Smid as the Oiler on the far side (Horc’s spot on that goal) to bang the bugger in.

    I’ll turn that from improbable to impossible.

    Jones hangs back to cover for Fistric.

  27. VanOil says:

    Lucinius,

    Throw in Belanger watching from his own zone and you might be right.

  28. Lucinius says:

    BlacqueJacque,

    Both he and Hemsky are doing good things with the puck on the rush. They’re pushing the Sharks’ D back. I think they’re really scared of the speed of the Oilers if they’re in full flight.

  29. delooper says:

    Does anyone know how Hemsky got his neck stab-wound? Did he eat someone’s pet?

  30. hunter1909 says:

    Ryan Smyth gets a star tonight. Grumpy as anything.

  31. BlacqueJacque says:

    Lucinius,

    Agreed, the Sharks are probably being coached to play it safe.

    The amount of room that Stuart gave Hemsky in the first period there was absurd.

  32. Lowetide says:

    Krueger seems to have borrowed MacT’s blender for the evening.

  33. Gret99zky says:

    So nice that MPS got that sideburnectomy. Really changed his game.

  34. bluenotenorth says:

    BlacqueJacque:
    Wow, it’s like Magnus the Magnificent out there this period.

    Must have read WG’s article on how good he is.

  35. Lowetide says:

    delooper:
    Does anyone know how Hemsky got his neck stab-wound?Did he eat someone’s pet?

    Bar fight in the Czech as a young man. Maybe 2004 summer

  36. Gret99zky says:

    delooper:
    Does anyone know how Hemsky got his neck stab-wound?Did he eat someone’s pet?

    I heard it was one of those broken bottle bar fights. Not jk.

    Edit: LT beat me to it…….again.

  37. hunter1909 says:

    Petrell’s showing tonight why Kreuger’s the coach and everyone who posts in here is a rank amateur by comparison.

  38. Lucinius says:

    Lowetide,

    And they have the nerve to call him soft!

  39. Lowetide says:

    Plays like that one by Yakupov are the reason he sits in the third period.

  40. Woodguy says:

    RK put the 4th out right after Thornton was on.

    He’s learning.

    McLellan managed to get Joe out there 3 times vs. the 4th in the 1st

    Had him out against 6 too many times too.

  41. Lowetide says:

    Ryan Jones. Lordy.

  42. tcho says:

    Alright – let’s go boys!

  43. Gret99zky says:

    PP.

    Shoooooooooooot!

  44. hunter1909 says:

    Score. Please.

  45. Lucinius says:

    Need to score here. Badly.

  46. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers in the slot??

    The world really is round.

  47. VanOil says:

    Wrong Russian with the last second slapper.

  48. Gret99zky says:

    that last shot…..scoring chance or soiled sheets?

  49. hunter1909 says:

    Horcoff wants to help someone win that million dollars on “Safeway Score and Win”.

  50. Lucinius says:

    Wasted such an opportunity. Again. Fuck this powerplay. Its infuriating. Only Hemsky’s nice little pass into the middle was the only decent play there.

  51. Lucinius says:

    No shot from Yak has been also very annoying on the powerplay. He’s not even getting set for a one timer anymore.

  52. Lowetide says:

    Dennis King ‏@DKingBH 54s

    2nd period chances: 4-3; 1-1 ST. After 40 min: 11-8; 2-1

  53. Ribs says:

    I think I jinxed Eberle’s scoring chances back there. He coasted for most of that period, and looked like his hand was hurting coming off the ice on one play. Same hand he hurt earlier in the season?

  54. Genjutsu says:

    Woodguy,

    That one shift in the first when they were hemmed in the zone they laid several big hits on that line. The one that Fistric made Thorton his bitch. That kind of thing has an effect on old men like that as the game progresses. This is one instance that Corsi does not tell the whole story.

  55. dessert1111 says:

    Ribs:
    I think I jinxed Eberle’s scoring chances back there. He coasted for most of that period, and looked like his hand was hurting coming off the ice on one play. Same hand he hurt earlier in the season?

    He still has a broken finger I believe. Should be healed in a week or so

  56. delooper says:

    Wow, NHL Gamecentre can’t stop talking about the Penguins. Blah blah blah Crosby Penguins Crosby Penguins!!!

  57. JustWatt79 says:

    How can this be the sixth best PP in the league?

  58. hunter1909 says:

    Lucinius: No shot from Yak has been also very annoying on the powerplay. He’s not even getting set for a one timer anymore.

    No one’s really passing him the puck. Instead he gets it loose from somewhere, then always has to try to be a playmaker – almost as if he’s afraid to offend the others. During the period he made a great pass back to the blue line that the defenceman couldn’t handle.

    Yaks, always good fun.

  59. Genjutsu says:

    delooper,

    Well they are everything we hope to become.

  60. delooper says:

    Lowetide: Bar fight in the Czech as a young man. Maybe 2004 summer

    But did Hemsky initiate it by eating someone’s dog? I can’t let this go.

    Penguins! Penguins!! Yar!1! Penguins!!

  61. delooper says:

    Genjutsu:
    delooper,

    Well they are everything we hope to become.

    After a couple years of the 80′s Oilers kicking ass, it was trendy to hate them. It’s well past time for everyone to hate the Penguins. Fair is fair!!

  62. Woodguy says:

    Ribs:
    I think I jinxed Eberle’s scoring chances back there. He coasted for most of that period, and looked like his hand was hurting coming off the ice on one play. Same hand he hurt earlier in the season?

    14 is playing with 28

    That’s handicap enough

  63. Lowetide says:

    delooper: But did Hemsky initiate it by eating someone’s dog?I can’t let this go.

    Penguins! Penguins!!Yar!1!Penguins!!

    Almost all bar fights with hockey players returning home for the summer are the same.

  64. hunter1909 says:

    delooper,

    Hemsky/Smid are both badasses this season. Smid’s like a polar bear the way he wrestles the poor forwards meanwhile the refs think he’s playing clean.

  65. GordM says:

    See Redford!! We need a cool $100million just to fix the damn time clock.

  66. hunter1909 says:

    Justin Schultz channeling his inner Glenn Anderson tonight.

  67. steveb12344 says:

    The Flow!!!

  68. Woodguy says:

    Every time I beak floater, he scores.

    Nice play by Jones there.

  69. hunter1909 says:

    Jones just scored the back breaker.

  70. delooper says:

    Awesome Jones. Don’t let Gagner get all the goals, that contract-seeking hooligan deadbeat.

  71. Lowetide says:

    Jones effort finally pays off. Sign the man!

  72. Gret99zky says:

    Jughead Jones just stole Niemi’s hamburger.

  73. Genjutsu says:

    Jones!

  74. hunter1909 says:

    We’ve just seen the future of this team; Pajaarvi+Yakupov on the same line.

  75. delooper says:

    Iron Magnus Man.

  76. icecastles says:

    Niemmi’s going full Roloson.

  77. dessert1111 says:

    And you bastards want to trade Jones.

  78. hunter1909 says:

    That cowardly Shark dived. Whitney was just doing his job.

  79. Rebilled says:

    Whitney loves that spot for PIMS.

  80. Genjutsu says:

    I’ve noticed the Sharks D aren’t cute after the whistle when brown’s out

  81. OilLeak says:

    dessert1111:
    And you bastards want to trade Jones.

    And you don’t?

  82. VanOil says:

    hunter1909:
    We’ve just seen the future of this team; Pajaarvi+Yakupov on the same line.

    The Stable+The Havic. Scary for a decade. Barring some really poor management.

  83. hunter1909 says:

    Poor goal. Yipes.

    Now guys. Just pound the shit out of these assholes from California.

  84. Lowetide says:

    Petrell applying for the backup goalie job there.

  85. VanOil says:

    Will some one give Couture some love this summer so he stops killing the Oilers.

  86. GordM says:

    The dreaded 2 goal lead…makes way for the far more comfortable 1 goal lead???

  87. Wolfpack says:

    I have a feeling the Oilers might need one more goal to win this one. But boy, SJ looks like a different team from the one we played in week 1.

    Couture always scores against us.

    When I see Hemsky’s neck scar I think of Clint Eastwood in Hang ‘Em High. Hemsky needs to wear a neck guard just so he can pull it down and scare the opposition with an intense stare once in a while.

  88. dessert1111 says:

    They better not sit on this 1 goal lead, they are horrible at sitting on leads.

  89. hunter1909 says:

    I’m pretending Smyth is really a 53 year old Wayne Gretzky tonight, with a few numbers removed from 99.

    Great. Detroit red Woings game 2.0 !

    Guys, next time could you please just lose the game in the 1st period? It’s starting to get old for the fans, watching these 2 goal 3rd period leads turn into heartbreaking(for us fans at least) losses.

  90. dessert1111 says:

    OilLeak: And you don’t?

    No way, I’m a Jones-supporter! Good 4th line winger who can play up the line-up in spot duty. Hasn’t had a good year so far so hopefully he comes in under a 1.5 million cap hit. Problem is they’re spending too much on bottom line players as is.

  91. delooper says:

    Poop!

  92. Smarmy says:

    Everything about that was last place hockey.

  93. Scotty LaDouche says:

    Logan Couture is going to feast on the Oilers when theyre in his division.

  94. hunter1909 says:

    Scotty LaDouche,

    I probably hate Logan Couture more than any player in the world.

  95. hunter1909 says:

    Oh well, there’s the OT point to still play for!

  96. PunjabiOil says:

    That’s what happens when you not only have that much junk on the roster, but on the ice all at the same time.

    That’s on Tambellini.

  97. Wolfpack says:

    The book is out on Dubnyk. His blocker is really weak.

  98. Gret99zky says:

    Smyth needed to clear the puck on that last one.

  99. bluenotenorth says:

    Col 4 Dal 3

  100. hunter1909 says:

    dessert1111,

    I’d like to see: Ryan/Seth Jones + Justin+Nick Schultz all on the same ice together for the announcers.

  101. Lowetide says:

    Oilers should be home and dry but they really don’t have any depth at all. Dubnyk is hanging by a thread, the 4th line is a mess and the defense is running all over.

    If San Jose were any good they’d be ahead by 2 by the end of this one.

  102. tcho says:

    Okay, boys – time to get that momentum back.

  103. hunter1909 says:

    This is in effect, the playoffs.

  104. tcho says:

    Yakcity. Nice shift.

  105. gretzkytolemieux says:

    After following these comments game after game with much enjoyment, and then watching these third period collapses, I had to register and comment.

    Dubnyk has to make that save.

  106. Lowetide says:

    gretzkytolemieux:
    After following these comments game after game with much enjoyment, and then watching these third period collapses, I had to register and comment.

    Dubnyk has to make that save.

    Yes. Agreed.

  107. delooper says:

    A lot of “errant pass by Petry” and “Petry couldn’t pull the trigger” comments by the announcer tonight.

  108. godot10 says:

    gretzkytolemieux,

    SandersonToOrr

  109. hunter1909 says:

    These guys would be playoff terrors; since everything’s stripped down to the basics where talent and heart trump diving and being a Vancouver Canuck.

  110. dessert1111 says:

    Paajarvi steps in when Yakupov is getting harassed, that’s nice to see from him. Not to mention nice to see Yak throwing his weight around.

  111. Lowetide says:

    Avs did their job, Dallas loses. 8th place tie is there for the taking.

  112. hunter1909 says:

    Never saw Yaks make a hit before. I hope he picks his spots carefully, but it’s sensational to see yet another dimension to his rapidly forming genius.

  113. Gret99zky says:

    Taylor Fall

  114. VanOil says:

    Petrell taking Yaks spot for the win again

  115. gretzkytolemieux says:

    godot10:
    gretzkytolemieux,

    SandersonToOrr

    Touche

  116. FPB94 says:

    Sam Gagner’s riding high SH% but he definitely shoots more / has a better shot than last year. Love it.

  117. fuzzy muppet says:

    Kreuger really peeves me sometimes. Yak has a great shift in the third and then RK pines him for 37.

    Infuriating

  118. hunter1909 says:

    This is playoff elimination hockey.

  119. Gret99zky says:

    Smyth can’t clear the zone the.

  120. Lowetide says:

    Oilers are lucky to get a point tonight, even though they had a 3-1 lead at one point in the game. Holy hell the wheels fell off that period.

    WOW.

  121. tcho says:

    Man… that was an ugly stretch of hockey to close out the third.

    Oops. I promised myself I’d stay positive.

    I mean… Hockey is a game of momentum swings. The Oilers will bounce back for a 4-on-4 win in OT!

  122. delooper says:

    Petry doesn’t look 100%. Probably about 60-70%. I’m saying he left an organ or two at home.

  123. icecastles says:

    To Quote Han Solo (and pretty much every other character in the franchise), I have a bad feeling about this. Dubnyk is not looking his best. And really not confident on the odds for a shootout win tonight.

  124. hunter1909 says:

    Don’t you love Oiler defencemen in OT?

  125. tcho says:

    Lovely shift started by that great entry by 2.

  126. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers look really good tonight. They’re going to be getting harder and harder to beat from every game on.

  127. delooper says:

    icecastles:
    To Quote Han Solo (and pretty much every other character in the franchise), I have a bad feeling about this. Dubnyk is not looking his best. And really not confident on the odds for a shootout win tonight.

    But didn’t Jari Kurri blow up the Klingon homeworld right after that?

  128. crude says:

    Lot’s of guys are on their horses tonight. Too bad about the blown third frame. Fun game to watch.

  129. Woodguy says:

    From: @NateInVegas
    Sent: Mar 20, 2013 10:20p

    3rd period: #Oilers 3 #Sharks 7 (0-2ST) Whitney on the ice for 2 goals against, in the box for the 3rd. Got a PP assist though. Tough game.

    sent via web
    On Twitter: http://twitter.com/NateInVegas/status/314592299323637760

  130. Lowetide says:

    Dennis King ‏@DKingBH 20s

    Final chance totals: 15-18; 2-3 ST

  131. icecastles says:

    The Eber-laser.

  132. Lowetide says:

    Nice shot, 14.

  133. tcho says:

    crude,

    Agreed. Entertaining game, frustrating warts and all.

  134. asiaoil says:

    Well same issues blowing the 2 goal lead…..

    - who needs an extra center around right? We clearly need a dozen 6/7 dmen instead

    - speaking of dmen, our back line is just awful at moving the puck up ice to our forward at speed as many others have noted (SJS made us look awful in that regard)

    - Whitney has lost us how many games this year? Stupid penalty up 2

    - what the frack was the 4th line doing out with only 10 minutes left?

  135. Lowetide says:

    Well, that happened.

  136. Smarmy says:

    Can Couture score a goal without making a face that you’d make when someone shoves a log up your ass by surprise.

  137. gretzkytolemieux says:

    Man it hurts to love this team sometimes…

  138. Gret99zky says:

    Donkey balls.

  139. "Steve Smith" says:

    Lowetide,

    I find myself without a counterpoint.

  140. bluenotenorth says:

    Tough to pump and dump Whitney with that effort.

  141. fuzzy muppet says:

    It’s always one step forward, two-steps back.

    They should be 4-0 this homestand but they keep throwing Whitney out there to get abused.

    It’s a damn shame. They could have actually iced a playoff team and they shit it down their legs

  142. Genjutsu says:

    Gret99zky,

    Stop winnin’ for MacKinnon!

  143. gcw_rocks says:

    Son of a bitch!

    Oilers radio team roasting Petrell and Krueger for putting him out there instead of Yak

  144. dessert1111 says:

    aaaaand I’m out of scotch. fuck!!

  145. Woodguy says:

    This team has blown like 5-6 3rd period leads this year.

    So much talent up front and the assholes in the front office bet on Whitney’s ankle.

    Patience should be exhausted for them.

    2 and 5 are their best 2 and even they looked like a gong show at time tonight.

    Time to sit Whitney again.

    Just goddam awful and costing the team wins.

    Take the first offer you get for him.

    Take a 7th in 2015 draft, just get him gone.

    Assholes.

  146. Genjutsu says:

    Woodguy,

    They just want one more ace is all.

  147. hunter1909 says:

    Woodguy: So much talent up front and the assholes in the front office bet on Whitney’s ankle.
    Patience should be exhausted for them.

    Do you think they want Whitney, so he can run the breakout pass on power plays? He can’t really skate, but coming up alone from the back he understands where to pass the puck.

    Kind of fucked.

  148. Lucinius says:

    Horrible loss. Very winnable. Petrell horrid on the block attempt (if you’re going to block a shot you have the ensure you block it, especially if you’re literally right in front of your goalie); he should of been pined for that block attempt.

    Smyth with the horrible play on the other goal. Does drive me nuts to see our players on the boards in the defensive zone. They race to the boards and stop dead and then try to muck with the puck instead of moving the damn thing. Main culprits for this are the defense and the veterans.

    Knew the Oilers were going lose or get the shoot out in this one as soon as the Sharks got the second goal. Also knew once we hit the shoot out we were going to lose because Dubnyk is not good at shoot outs. He bits a bit early and is weak blocker and glove side.

    Good effort by a lot of players, but a few let them down, especially in the third and Krueger got out-coached or is just bad at coaching mid-third on with a slim lead. He trusts the wrong players.

    Oilers deserved the loss.

    But, hey. Dallas lost and we got a point.

  149. PunjabiOil says:

    The Detroit and San Jose games. Those could be the season.

    Saturday becomes must win now.

  150. asiaoil says:

    Genjutsu:
    Woodguy,

    They just want one more ace is all.

    The cap WILL NOT let them keep him even if they get him. This was the year to surround the kids with decent depth and all they got was Hordichuk and the front office sitting on their hands all season. Anyone still care to debate how taking Hall & Hammer off waivers was a bad idea? Of course when you fill the roster and AHL with garbage contracts that you can’t get rid of you have a great excuse to do nothing.

  151. hunter1909 says:

    Next game’s only St. Louis, ha ha.

  152. GordM says:

    If you told me they would go 3-0-2 in the five games after that Nashville debacle I would say please-and-thank-you. Admittedly the 2 blown leads are frustrating but lest we forget Kostitsyn served up a W…and we miraculously survived in the mad house on madison.

    Blues/Preds/Blues/Jackets….Oil need to grab 6 pts out of these possible 8.

    C’mon Katz and your money-bags….Whitney for Streit + Dipietro

  153. tcho says:

    hunter1909,

    Yep. Don’t like their chances.

  154. Lowetide says:

    “Steve Smith”:
    Lowetide,

    I find myself without a counterpoint.

    Ah hell what are you going to do? The Oilers were the better team but the goals against (on both sides) were the kinds of mistakes losing teams make.

    Howie Meeker used to say “kids, don’t play like the Leafs” and I’d laugh. Well, it isn’t as funny when it’s the town team.

  155. JustWatt79 says:

    Still thinking back to that 4 min PP that generated jack all. This one might have been put away earlier.

  156. hunter1909 says:

    Lucinius: But, hey. Dallas lost and we got a point.

    It’s already playoff style attrition; with points getting clawed from every hard fought game.

    The real question is: How much better can/will these Oilers play? Either they play even better, or else they’re just as likely to lose their next game, etc.

    Imo, they’re going to get better. A lot better. Why? Because Kreuger’s not losing games, he’s building a hockey team to play in the spring. We had to put up with similar in 2006, as paraphrased by our learned friend Woodguy.

  157. Dominoiler says:

    Havent seen anyone else with this take, but my first impression was that RK was talking more about a horcoffian type physicality.. He leads in a similar way to how smytty has always led, hard on the puck and willing to commit to winning puck battles.. He is a role model, leading by example as the captain and as a 2-way checker / scorer.. a player type that many young players are actively working to improve in their own game (harti, prv, petrell, then the wonder kids to an extent as well).. there is a physical commitment these players need to have in order to compete at the highest levels.. I think there is a connection between the pre-hawks game speech (as the article alludes), the winning streak (the improved play, improved physical commitment?!), and how the dirty russain has come back w a vengeance..

    Its a nice, pro-horcov, story line, in my mind at least..
    a nice change of pace, in that respect..

    PS. Love the edit function, thanks for the add

  158. Lowetide says:

    R.Krueger “We liked start of 3rd period and how we got a 3-1 lead but you can’t give anything to that team. We panicked on pk for 3-2 goal.”

  159. Lowetide says:

    R.Krueger “We’re very disappointed to lose shootout.It’s painful to lose 3-1 lead.We have to look at positive of pts. in 5 straight.”

  160. PunjabiOil says:

    The frustrating part is the holes were much easily fixable this off-season and what did Tambo do?

    Added 2 rookies, and replaced an injured Sutton with Fistric.

    That’s it.

    Fireable offense on a stand-alone basis.

    The Oilers management boils my blood.

  161. Zelepukin says:

    Missing Nuge big time.

  162. PunjabiOil says:

    All that said, if they get 6 out of the next 8 points, they have a decent shot to go on a run with their last 15 games, 9 being at home.

    Very, very, critical set of games coming up

  163. tcho says:

    On the bright side, that’s a pretty good effort considering their C was held together with bailing twine. (Not too many teams are going to lose their first line C without a hiccup)

  164. Lowetide says:

    “He was pretty good this morning.He started to feel worse around 2pm.We thought he could do harm to himself if he played”R.Krueger on RNH

  165. Dominoiler says:

    I really like the fistric pick up, so that is a positive point for tambo et al.. the other accusations I cant defend, tho..

  166. jb says:

    PunjabiOil:
    All that said, if they get 6 out of the next 8 points, they have a decent shot to go on a run with their last 15 games, 9 being at home.

    Very, very, critical set of games coming up

    Pretty sure it was just the fans that sped up the rebuild process.. I mean we’re close, but it’s not quite over… First year with our young guys filling out the top lines, while adding two elite rookies and some grit, it’s our first real competitve year I think, and it’s obvious they’re starting to flush out the weakest links.

    You can bet they won’t just re-sign Whitney and be happy going into next year.

  167. stevezie says:

    I don;t like benching Yak in OT, but I do understand that unless Horc is out there no matter where the faceoff takes place we are immediately defending.

    Man, hurting his knuckles might have been the best thing that could have happened to The Liar. He’s looked better since, non?

  168. Gret99zky says:

    jb:

    You can bet they won’t just re-sign Whitney and be happy going into next year.

    God I hope they don’t resign him. I sure as hell can see them doing it though.

  169. Zelepukin says:

    stevezie: Man, hurting his knuckles might have been the best thing that could have happened to The Liar. He’s looked better since, non?

    he’s looked luckier since.

  170. Ribs says:

    dessert1111: He still has a broken finger I believe. Should be healed in a week or so

    Oh wow, didn’t know that.

    Woodguy: 14 is playing with 28

    That’s handicap enough

    One of the times I noticed Eberle sort of floating around was when Jones was making some odd decisions on how he was pursuing the puck. Eberle was trying to read the play but could see Jones killing it before it even started. He just skated to the bench to change.

    ,,,And then Jones scores using the same chaotic method. *shrug*

    I guess Eberle did end up scoring…kind of…*not a jinx*

    How about the captain with 23:59 mins of ice time? Still some juice in the tank.

    Paajarvi with 21:35 icetime? With no SH time? Say whaaa? Didn’t look out of place at all.

    Wolfpack:
    The book is out on Dubnyk. His blocker is really weak.

    I think the book is in it’s 3rd printing. The good news is, the rest of his game is pretty danged decent.

  171. B S says:

    jb,

    Take it or leave it, but Tambi stated when the team announced a rebuild that Hall’s rookie year was going to be a development year. The team wasn’t expecting to compete for playoffs (intentional tank job in other words). The second year was supposed to compete for playoffs (this would be your 10-12th place finish, didn’t work like that), and the 3rd year the team was supposed to be a playoff team. We are in the 3rd year, and this does not look like a playoff team. They look better than last year, and could still finish just outside the playoffs, but it is clear that this team wasn’t given enough to make the playoffs by mgmt. For future reference, the team is supposed to be a Stanley cup contender by year five. If the team makes the playoffs this year they will be back on track with “the plan” but this should be an inside-the-bubble team (6-8 place) according to the rebuild plan.

  172. hunter1909 says:

    Ribs: Wolfpack:
    The book is out on Dubnyk. His blocker is really weak.
    I think the book is in it’s 3rd printing. The good news is, the rest of his game is pretty danged decent.

    It’s hardly Dubnyk’s fault when the team goes postal, leaving him hanging out to dry, instead of doing what Ralph says; namely: let the big ape see the freaking shots.

  173. refmaksy says:

    Two problems with the way the game went tonight. First, the penalty on Whtiney for interference was not a penalty, that player touched the puck and was about to pick up the puck and whitney played the body. Terrible call just like the high stick on brownie against detroit – a phantom call.

    Second problem is that Kreuger absolutely does not recognize a momentum shift and when he needs to call a time out. At the 3-2 goal, call the goddam time out and let’s have a conversation as a team about how we’re going to play the third period. Dump it, get it deep, go get it, play in their end. Instead, the 3-2 goal shook the confidence and then turn-over city started all over the place. Call the time out and that doesn’t happen.

    Maksy.

  174. Zelepukin says:

    Ribs: One of the times I noticed Eberle sort of floating around was when Jones was making some odd decisions on how he was pursuing the puck. Eberle was trying to read the play but could see Jones killing it before it even started. He just skated to the bench to change.
    ,,,And then Jones scores using the same chaotic method. *shrug*

    was this that play near the oilers bench just inside the blue? All I could think of was Ebs saying to himself, damn i miss my old linemates.

  175. OilLeak says:

    dessert1111: No way, I’m a Jones-supporter! Good 4th line winger who can play up the line-up in spot duty. Hasn’t had a good year so far so hopefully he comes in under a 1.5 million cap hit. Problem is they’re spending too much on bottom line players as is.

    Yep, let’s keep all the crappy players, this team is awesome. Let’s completely ignore the fact that Ryan Jones is about as effective as Mike Brown and Jones is playing with better players. In fact I’ll take Mike Brown over Jones, because at least Brown won’t be confused for a guy who has real talent and skill.

  176. vishcosity says:

    B S:
    jb,

    Take it or leave it, but Tambi stated when the team announced a rebuild that Hall’s rookie year was going to be a development year. The team wasn’t expecting to compete for playoffs (intentional tank job in other words). The second year was supposed to compete for playoffs (this would be your 10-12th place finish, didn’t work like that), and the 3rd year the team was supposed to be a playoff team. We are in the 3rd year, and this does not look like a playoff team. They look better than last year, and could still finish just outside the playoffs, but it is clear that this team wasn’t given enough to make the playoffs by mgmt. For future reference, the team is supposed to be a Stanley cup contender by year five. If the team makes the playoffs this year they will be back on track with “the plan” but this should be an inside-the-bubble team (6-8 place) according to the rebuild plan.

    So it sounds like “the plan” is behind a year, maybe. Bubble team doesn’t mean 6 – 8, it means 6 – 10, as in, near the playoffs, playing meaningful games in April. Still on track, seems to me.

    Tonight they played with an elite team, after playing a close one with Detroit, and beating Chicago at home. Sounds like they are well on track to being competitive inside the window of “the plan”.

    Clearly I think there is a plan, there has been a plan, and there continues to be a plan. Belanger not working out is hardly a fireable offense, Whitney was the #1 but broke, during the plan. They traded two key pieces for that #1 D, was originally named Lubomir, but now named Whitney and is unfortunately busted below the knees. Again, hardly a fireable offense. If he was healthy, and was pushing all the D down one spot, this team would be well on track as a bubble team, and the one piece so badly sought by this blog would actually have been in house the whole time.

    In the Grantland piece, KLowe expressed awareness and fatigue regarding the sphere, he did not suggest that he had an ace up his sleeve, as I’m sure we’d all hope. For the management team, this blog is probably exhausting, it is not an ace. And while it could be an ace, sadly its clearly not.

    For the crap feed available to me, I really enjoyed watching these kids skate past the Sharks, that the game wasn’t won in regulation I care very little. Adding one more quality draft pick would make me super happy, it would be the opposite of hinging the plan on one Ryan Whitney. While Yak seems a bonus, adding Barkov would be glory. Then if Sam walks, RNH is down, Horcoff is out, it doesn’t matter because the team can still compete against the Sharks. No bailer twine required. I can support this management team (specifically the one who collectively have not thrown away the Maggies for Streits) and back them all day for their ability to hold the line despite the constant denigration spouted here and around the sphere.

    Great game tonight, loved the game against the Wings, and had I seen the one in the madhouse, I bet I would have loved that even more.

    Lowe got his whale. That Hall comes with four super friends is hilarious. Good for Lowe, good for Tambo, y’all got my unconditional support for sure. Because despite what is normally stated here, I do see the plan, I’m all in, and I’ve supported it the whole way. I’ve been aware of Taylor since he was 16, two mem cup mvps, and they didn’t take Seguin. excellent. bravo. super stoked indeed.

    My fantasy team just traded all the STL goaltenders for one Rick Nash. If I was GM of a real club, I’d be those clowns in TB pre stevie Y. Glad Tambellini is better at the long view than me.

    Hold the line. that kids so young are taking it to Thornton or Datsyuk and coming up black is outstanding.

    I don’t care if they get the 8 spot this year. I want them to lock down the 1 spot, year after year.

  177. cabbiesmacker says:

    vishcosity,

    Thanks for the input Steve…errr Kev….err Craig

  178. Ribs says:

    Zelepukin: was this that play near the oilers bench just inside the blue? All I could think of was Ebs saying to himself, damn i miss my old linemates.

    Yep. Clear opportunity for a play but Jones was pretty clueless about how to go about making it happen.

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