FLAMES AT OILERS G41 (12-13) 13.4.13

As the days wind down on the season and the career of Oiler Ryan, I wonder if his thoughts turn to the next step, the next opportunity. A team that once banished him to Long Island might end up being the same team that lends a helping hand (should it be agreeable) to the other side of the game. Perhaps he’ll prefer to stay out of hockey for a time, furthering his other interests and watching his children grow up and become adults.

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I wonder too about Lennart Petrell, a man whose signing last summer may have been the harbinger of things to come. Petrell’s penalty killing and forechecking skills can’t outrun his ability to aid in sending the puck in the right direction–a malady that in fairness plagues his line and can’t be blamed on one soldier.

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I wonder too about Eric Belanger, Ryan Jones, Ryan Whitney, Nikolai Khabibulin, Ben Eager, Darcy Hordichuk, Andy Sutton. Some of these men have played or are playing their final games in the game’s best league, and will never see the NHL light of day again.

Losing is the kiss of death for older veterans who are role players–a man like Lennart Petrell can go back to SM-Liiga but Ben Eager’s concussions and Andy Sutton’s injury and Nikolai Khabibulin’s age all tell us their time is close.

And playing on a loser is no way to be remembered, but these men have no choice.

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As for the future, the cluster is strong and the future is bright and all that remains is finding the smaller parts that fit. So much has been done, and yet the obvious eludes the Edmonton Oilers. They need actual NHL players. Some of them are free agents, some of them are trades, some of them are waiver pickups.

This summer does not require broad strokes, but rather a finisher’s touch. They Oilers should not do the following:

  • fire the head coach
  • sign any of their free agents
  • force their 1st rd pick onto the roster
  • go chasing after whales, monsters or coke machines

And they should

  • find a legit top 4D who can calm Schultz the younger and serve as mentor
  • keep Nick Schultz as insurance for the new hire and to mentor the kids for one more season
  • find a line that works from the clay of Gagner, Hemsky, Paajarvi, Yakupov
  • find a veteran winger for Horcoff and the second line leftover to work on a third line
  • find a 4th line that the coach can count on
  • find a backup goalie who can play 20-25 games

WRECK ON THE HIGHWAY

There’s still part of the script to be written. The playoffs are long gone, but for a team that finished 30th, 30th and 29th in the past three seasons, a finish inside the top 20 should be the goal. A small victory? Yes. Let’s start with that.

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  1. BONVIE says:

    fuzzy muppet: Wake me up when the draft hits or they finally fire the idiots in charge. This is the single worst management team in the history of hockey. It’s unrivaled.

    This sounds like groundhog day for me i said that last year and the year before oh and the one before that.

  2. fifthcartel says:

    RickDeckard:
    Oilanderp,

    Barkov along with MacKinnon are the best players in the draft IMO. Drouin is too Eberly and Jones’s offense is massively overrated.

    Looking like we’re going to be closer to pick 1 than pick 10, I’m hoping for Monahan or Nurse/Zadorov. I think this place will explode if they draft another winger.

  3. BONVIE says:

    I wish we had done something at the trade deadline so we could have had two picks this year so we could have had a Rychel and a Monohan.

  4. asiaoil says:

    You go scorched earth on the front office, pro scouting and let Kruger pick his own assistants (guarantee you Smith and Bucky are gone), That’s a start.

    Starting July 1 you also need skilled size throughout the lineup and blow-torch the bottom 6 forwards and bottom pair defense. It was sickening to watch the defensive zone breakouts tonight and see Lenny Petrell as the only guy who felt like hitting anyone. With few exceptions these guys were playing to not get hurt and enjoy their summer.

    …..and finally. Watching Smyth laughing it up on the bench down 3-1 in the third was the final straw for me on this guy. He’s waiver wire early next season if he doesn’t change his attitude PDQ. Let him finish his career with that embarrassment or in OKC if he doesn’t give a shit anymore.

  5. BONVIE says:

    Man its too bad the guy that does the Oilers twitter didn’t get hit with the truth serum tonight. No sugar coating and excuses just tell it the way it is.

  6. fuzzy muppet says:

    The fact that the flames played last night only makes this more embarrassing.

    Kreuger didn’t even deny that the team “checked out”. And can you really blame them with all that help they brought in at the trade deadline? It was deflating as a FAN, let alone being on that team.

    Tambo and Lowe are making me hate the Edmonton OIlers, Fuck them and Darryl Katz too

  7. BONVIE says:

    asiaoil:
    You go scorched earth on the front office, pro scouting and let Kruger pick his own assistants (guarantee you Smith and Bucky are gone), That’s a start.

    Starting July 1 you also need skilled size throughout the lineup and blow-torch the bottom 6 forwards and bottom pair defense. It was sickening to watch the defensive zone breakouts tonight and see Lenny Petrell as the only guy who felt like hitting anyone. With few exceptions these guys were playing to not get hurt and enjoy their summer.

    …..and finally. Watching Smyth laughing it up on the bench down 3-1 in the third was the final straw for me on this guy. He’s waiver wire early next season if he doesn’t change his attitude PDQ. Let him finish his career with that embarrassment or in OKC if he doesn’t give a shit anymore.

    LOL you would pick Krueger to be your center piece, of a scorched earth rebuild on the coaching staff. Did Renney pick him lol.

    Guys there is this coach that has done wonderful things with the Swiss National team and they beat Canada once, I think we should bring him in as a part of the changing of our culture.

  8. RickDeckard says:

    asiaoil,

    Why keep Krueger? This is the only game in the middle of a 5 day stretch and he’s playing his 4th line in the last 10 minutes of a 3-1 game. He’s a good speaker and maybe a good teacher but he needs a coach above him to run the the bench and tell him what to teach.

  9. MrSmitty says:

    As a season ticket holder I am left with the dilemma. After 2006 I said I would never miss a playoff game live again. So I put my name down for tickets. Do I give my tickets up (they are pretty good seats) to send a message to Ownership that this BS must end. Or do I hold on to hope that eventually Katz will fire the lot of them and we will eventually compete??? Its a damned if you do damned if you don’t. ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHH fuck you Lowe and Tambo!!!!!

  10. asiaoil says:

    This mgmt group has gone through 4 coaches in 5 years. I cut Kruger some slack because:

    a) he’s smarter than the rest of the head office combined and will get better fast

    b) he’s been hamstrung by the roster trash the front office gave him

    c) he’s been hamstrung by the assistant coach trash the front office gave him, and

    d) he’s a new coach with a new system and team full of kids and veteran dunces that had no training camp and almost no practice time. Year 2 will be a lot better.

    So in my books Kruger gets a mulligan but what’s the front office’s excuse having failed to make the playoffs 8 out of 9 years now?

  11. BONVIE says:

    RickDeckard:
    asiaoil,

    Why keep Krueger? This is the only game in the middle of a 5 day stretch and he’s playing his 4th line in the last 10 minutes of a 3-1 game. He’s a good speaker and maybe a good teacher but he needs a coach above him to run the the bench and tell him what to teach.

    If you were going to battle and your life was on the line, would this be a man you would like to follow. Krueger reminds me more of a vaccuum salesman that could sell your grandma an upright when she already has a cental vac, or sell the senior citizens an outdoor swimming pool in Yellowknife. Or a bunch of Oilers fans a winning record if you just give him another season to asses the talent he has to work with, and have his players familiarize themselves with his system.

  12. asiaoil says:

    BONVIE: If you were going to battle and your life was on the line, would this be a man you would like to follow. Krueger reminds me more of a vaccuum salesman that could sell your grandma an upright when she already has a cental vac, or sell the senior citizens an outdoor swimming pool in Yellowknife. Or a bunch of Oilers fans a winning record if you just give him another season to asses the talent he has to work with, and have his players familiarize themselves with his system.

    Wise up kiddo – tank is on – he’s being told to play those guys. You think HE chose to play Nik tonight after DD had only played 1 game in 5 nights?

  13. Gret99zky says:

    Can’t wait until the offseason when we can all hit the reset button and talk about how awesome this team will be next year.

  14. oilersfan says:

    Mike Milbury is so relieved that TambiLowe are making him look like not the worst gm in modern nhl history.

  15. BONVIE says:

    asiaoil:
    This mgmt group has gone through 4 coaches in 5 years. I cut Kruger some slack because:

    a) he’s smarter than the rest of the head office combined and will get better fast

    b) he’s been hamstrung by the roster trash the front office gave him.

    c) he’s been hamstrung by the assistant coach trash the front office gave him, and

    d) he’s a new coach with a new system and team full of kids and veteran dunces that had no training camp and almost no practice time. Year 2 will be a lot better.

    So in my books Kruger gets a mulligan but what’s the front office’s excuse having failed to make the playoffs 8 out of 9 years now?

    a) Did they publish his IQ on the Oilers site? Or are your referring to his brilliant line matching when the Oilers play at home.

    b)Still a better roster than Renney had and he did not have the key injuries that Renney had to go through.

    c) Yes because the assistant coaches are the ones in charge there right….. they are the motivators. Hamstringers the hole bunch of them.

    d) I want my excuse for Renney back you stole it from last year, you just added no training camp and made it your own. Remember the experts they thought that no training camp would benefit the Oilers more than any other team because the core players were all playing NA hockey together in the best league available.

  16. BONVIE says:

    asiaoil: Wise up kiddo – tank is on – he’s being told to play those guys. You think HE chose to play Nik tonight after DD had only played 1 game in 5 nights?

    Ok tough guy…silly me I never noticed the tank was on. I guess Tambo only cc’d the memo to you cause your such a great Oiler fan.

  17. maudite says:

    asiaoil:
    This mgmt group has gone through 4 coaches in 5 years. I cut Kruger some slack because:

    a) he’s smarter than the rest of the head office combined and will get better fast

    b) he’s been hamstrung by the roster trash the front office gave him

    c) he’s been hamstrung by the assistant coach trash the front office gave him, and

    d) he’s a new coach with a new system and team full of kids and veteran dunces that had no training camp and almost no practice time. Year 2 will be a lot better.

    So in my books Kruger gets a mulligan but what’s the front office’s excuse having failed to make the playoffs 8 out of 9 years now?

    He gets a pass based strictly having the stones not ice the garbage he’s being fed as best he could. Eager or Hordi were sent out of town through WAIVERS!! Even when there was a waiver eligible player on the roster. Regardless of skill or team need, the one thing I’m quite certain of is that waiver players always go back first.

    Only thing that has changed in a few years in any of the patterns thus far exhibited in the confederacy of dunces.

  18. BONVIE says:

    asiaoil: Wise up kiddo – tank is on – he’s being told to play those guys. You think HE chose to play Nik tonight after DD had only played 1 game in 5 nights?

    PS …. could you please tell Tambi the next time he is going to tank the season to remember to sell off his veteran assests at the trade deadline for prospects and picks, it seems that he has overlooked this the past two tanks. You know trade deadline when a team that thinks they are going to the finals will pay two 2nd rounders for your 7th Defenseman(just cause they can never have enough depth on defense.)

  19. maudite says:

    BONVIE: a) Did they publish his IQ on the Oilers site? Or are your referring to his brilliant line matching when the Oilers play at home.

    b)Still a better roster than Renney had and he did not have the key injuries that Renney had to go through.

    c) Yes because the assistant coaches are the ones in charge there right….. they are the motivators. Hamstringers the hole bunch of them.

    d) I want my excuse for Renney back you stole it from last year, you just added no training camp and made it your own. Remember the experts they thought that no training camp would benefit the Oilers more than any other team because the core players were all playing NA hockey together in the best league available.

    I couldn’t see what the point of firing Renney was really. I’m not sure I like his line matching and these systems, but I’d give him another year. If they actually assemble a team next year see where he ends up. Hopefully they sit down and scrap the defensive system this summer. I don’t like it much.

  20. BONVIE says:

    maudite,

    This may come out of left field for ya but the GM is the one that sends guys to the minors. If the GM wanted to send the waiver eligible guy down the coach would have been playing Hordichuk or Eager or dress 7 dmen.

    The only message Krueger clearly sent was he wasn’t interested in dressing Peckham.

  21. BONVIE says:

    maudite: I couldn’t see what the point of firing Renney was really.I’m not sure I like his line matching and these systems, but I’d give him another year.If they actually assemble a team next year see where he ends up.Hopefully they sit down and scrap the defensive system this summer.I don’t like it much.

    Ouch that would really hurt if they stopped the musical chairs right when this clown is sitting in it.

  22. fuzzy muppet says:

    maudite,

    Before we scrap the defensive systems, maybe, just maybe, actually acquire more than 3 NHL defensemen?

    How many head coaches do they need to can before they realize the problem isn’t the coach??

    KILL THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE

  23. asiaoil says:

    BONVIE: PS …. could you please tell Tambi the next time he is going to tank the season to remember to sell off his veteran assests at the trade deadline for prospects and picks, it seems that he has overlooked this the past two tanks. You know trade deadline when a team that thinks they are going to the finals will pay two 2nd rounders for your 7th Defenseman(just cause they can never have enough depth on defense.)

    Hate to break this to you but the best way to tank is to KEEP crap like Whitney, Khabi and Jones on the roster. Nice try at trying to deflect the blame for this season away from mgmt.

  24. Wes Mantooth-11 says:

    Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo…………….Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

    Worst game this year.

  25. raventalon40 says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    maudite,

    Before we scrap the defensive systems, maybe, just maybe, actually acquire more than 3 NHL defensemen?

    How many head coaches do they need to can before they realize the problem isn’t the coach??

    KILL THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE

    Couldn’t agree more.

    If you have two variables being tested in an experiment, and you keep manipulating the one variable and other one is controlled…. and you keep getting the same response… the problem is probably the control.

    The controlled variable is Steve Tambellini and the shadow hanging over him.

    Hell, I’m not unconvinced that Lowe or MacTavish would be better GM’s at this point, at least in the interim, than Tambellini. All this talk about not wanting to piss away the season so that he wouldn’t send the wrong message to the kids, but doing nothing on trade deadline day to show that they meant business about making the playoffs.

    I’d rather fail and try than fail and not try.

    Now we have no shot at Jones and no shot at the playoffs. Are we trying to be the Calgary Flames? We need a few more serviceable NHL veterans so that it’s not so easy to key in on the guys like RNH, Eberle, Gagner and JSchultz. We’ve seen how effective Horcoff and Smyth are when they aren’t worn out but over the course of the last two seasons THEY DID wear down before the halfway point. More depth means that if these veteran guys can’t play 82 games any more at least there’s someone to step in and stop the bleeding.

  26. BlacqueJacque says:

    raventalon40,

    I’d throw MacT and Lowe into the “controlled variable” category.

    We absolutely have a shot at Jones, the way we’re playing. We’re only 3 points ahead of Calgary, 5 points ahead of Florida and Colorado.

  27. Hammers says:

    Biggest problem is Mr. Katz has been sold a bill of goods by his management team . I said 2-3 weeks ago we would pick between 5-8th spot not the 10-12 so many expected .If so many “FANS” can see it why not KATZ & co. Tambo has to go . Lowe should but won’t. Why is McT there as I see no impact . Kruegers system isn’t working and he obviously rates Pettrell a lot higher than any of us .Frustration .

  28. Hambone678 says:

    LT, you make these recommendations as though the Oilers have a management team willing or capable of doing something to improve the roster. I admire your optimism, but don’t you feel it’s just a little bit futile?

  29. Lowetide says:

    Hambone678:
    LT, you make these recommendations as though the Oilers have a management team willing or capable of doing something to improve the roster. I admire your optimism, but don’t you feel it’s just a little bit futile?

    Not at all. The current management group isn’t the asset, the players are. The young players on this team are extreme value. Kevin Lowe’s stated goal was 5 years, that’s from 2010. I don’t agree with it, but there you go. Steve Tambellini said they wanted to play meaningful games and be a buyer at the deadline.

    And they did it.

    In a very narrow view, the management group can tell us they’ve been successful. There were good things about this season–Dubnyk is bona fide, Schultz the younger, Yakupov.

    Good things will come out of this season. I don’t agree with the plodding process but there’s all kinds of good arrows.

  30. Hambone678 says:

    Lowetide,

    Will Hall and Eberle still be here to see 2015? My fear is that they will burn through the entry level contracts and never know what it’s like to not suck before they join another team.

  31. Lowetide says:

    Hambone: I believe this team should be winning soon, but need to tighten up the bottom of the roster.

  32. Ribs says:

    Lowetide: Not at all. The current management group isn’t the asset, the players are. The young players on this team are extreme value. Kevin Lowe’s stated goal was 5 years, that’s from 2010. I don’t agree with it, but there you go. Steve Tambellini said they wanted to play meaningful games and be a buyer at the deadline.

    And they did it.

    In a very narrow view, the management group can tell us they’ve been successful. There were good things about this season–Dubnyk is bona fide, Schultz the younger, Yakupov.

    Good things will come out of this season. I don’t agree with the plodding process but there’s all kinds of good arrows.

    I think you’ve hit it dead on here, LT. All is going according to plan.

    We can’t be mad about them not trading away young talent to fill the voids in the lineup because it’s not part of the plan (thank goodness). What we can be upset about, though, is their unwillingness to do the little things that are needed to give the team half a chance right now that would not ultimately hurt the future of the team in any meaningful way. Trading for a couple of serviceable defencemen at the deadline would not have costed much and would have improved the teams chances greatly.

    These guys should know how important playoff games are. They’ve been there. Even getting swept in the first round would have great value to a young team.

  33. Lowetide says:

    Ribs: I still think it costs Tambellini his job, though. Suspect he’ll be a casualty just as Renney was a year ago.

  34. Ribs says:

    Lowetide,

    It will be interesting to see what happens. Management’s group mentality leaves me to think that Tambellini sticks around as long as the plan is on track. We’ve got one more season of Lowe expectations and it should be difficult for the team to have a worse year than this one. That would mean he’s safe until next summer, at least.

  35. raventalon40 says:

    BlacqueJacque:
    raventalon40,

    I’d throw MacT and Lowe into the “controlled variable” category.

    We absolutely have a shot at Jones, the way we’re playing.We’re only 3 points ahead of Calgary, 5 points ahead of Florida and Colorado.

    More controlled variables ahead.

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