OILERS SIGN ANDREW MILLER

The Edmonton Oilers got a win today, signing skill F Andrew Miller from Yale. The undersized player was a sought after free agent and could be a plug and  play if he can make the grade come fall. He is an older prospect (24) so there’s a small window of opportunity.

  • Corey Pronman: The 24 year old center is a classic small, skilled college player. Miller displays above-average qualities in terms of his speed, puck skills and overall offensive instincts. In his Senior season especially he showed the ability to consistently create scoring chances and keep the play flowing in the right direction.
  • United States of Hockey: The captain of the newly-crowned national champions, Miller has had success at just about every level he has played. Downgraded because of his size over the years, Miller never got picked up in the draft despite being a consistent offensive producer. He never finished with fewer than 35 points in a season over his four year career in Yale and is a former USHL MVP, having posted 82 points in his last season in the top junior circuit in the U.S. At 5-8, 170, his size may concern some NHL GMs, but his outstanding offensive capabilities could make him a savvy pickup for Edmonton. He scored a career best 18 goals, including the overtime game-winner in the national semifinal against UMass-Lowell. He also added 23 assists to tie for the team lead with 41 points.

Miller is listed as a  right-winger, and a guess would have him here on the depth chart:

  1. Jordan Eberle
  2. Nail Yakupov
  3. Ales Hemsky
  4. Mike Brown
  5. Toni Rajala
  6. Andrew Miller
  7. Tyler Pitlick
  8. Cameron Abney

Ryan Jones is UFA, and there are at least a couple of LW’s (Paajarvi, Hartikainen) who can play either side–plus some centermen. Of course, the pro roster is going to see some changes, so depth charts are a moving target.

How big a signing is this one? No idea. I can say that it is very encouraging to see the Oilers pursue college players and it is very clear this has been a priority in recent years. As an example, here are the college signings by Edmonton over the last 3 years:

  1. March 8, 2011: Oilers sign Taylor Fedun from Princeton.
  2. March 19, 2011: Oilers sign Tanner House from Maine.
  3. March 31, 2011: Oilers sign Hunter Tremblay from University of New Brunswick.
  4. July 1, 2012: Oilers sign Justin Schultz from Wisconsin.
  5. April 17, 2013: Oilers sign Andrew Miller from Yale.

So far, only Schultz has played for the Oilers, but Fedun is progressing and could find his way to the NHL at some point in time. Miller is 5 months younger than Fedun, so his time is soon.

Miller’s NHLE (82, 16-21-37) is perhaps the most encouraging item. I’d guess he’ll be a top 20 prospect on the summer list.

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  1. TheOtherJohn says:

    Geez LT

    After last nights game not sure Miller might not fit above Mike Brown on the depth chart

  2. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    The impatience continues.

    The call ups and now this. MacT has done a fair bit since he took over considering he can’t trade or buy-out anyone yet.

    I’m trying to imagine a world where Miller and Omark play the wings on the 4th line and the collective head of the “size!” folks explodes.

  3. Lowetide says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    The impatience continues.

    The call ups and now this. MacT has done a fair bit since he took over considering he can’t trade or buy-out anyone yet.

    I’m trying to imagine a world where Miller and Omark play the wings on the 4th line and the collective head of the “size!” folks explodes.

    I was thinking about that today. If the Oilers are signing this guy, then Omark would certainly be a consideration, right? Of course, Omark wasn’t exactly stellar without the puck and we don’t know if this guy can play a more complete game.

  4. regwald says:

    So ? is he 5′ 8″ or 5′ 10″ ?

    Omark, Arcobello and Miller would be a smurfy kinda fourth line don’t you think ?

  5. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    regwald:
    So ? is he 5′ 8″ or 5′ 10″ ?

    Omark, Arcobello and Miller would be a smurfy kinda fourth line don’t you think ?

    The Oilers twitter feed said 5’8″ then corrected to 5’10″… at any rate, the guy isn’t huge.

    I’m not one who particularly cares about that… can he play? is the only question. But as LT mentions… signing this guy is maybe a tell from MacT that they are open to new things

    or is it that the coke machine drawer is finally considered full?

    Or, maybe he’s the only college guy they could get to go to the prom with them and they didn’t want to be left out and look like no one loves them.

    Or, maybe MacT is simply “impatient” and making the first moves he sees.

    at any rate, I hope this is a sign Omark gets another shot at the NHL with us. he’s an easy upgrade on nearly half our roster right now.

  6. Lowetide says:

    I suspect this is less “MacT pulls the trigger” and more “young Miller made up his mind today.” Unless we find out the offer was increased in the last 24 hours or something along those lines.

  7. meanashell11 says:

    My son plays lacrosse at Connecticut College with Miller’s younger brother. From what I have been told Miller is very excited to be signed by the Oilers and had a number of other options. He choose the Oilers.

  8. Kris11 says:

    I choo-choo choose you.

    Ha.

  9. Lowetide says:

    That was a great episode. I wish I knew Lisa Simpson, she’s pretty cool.

  10. Kris11 says:

    Great news that Miller wanted to be here.

    It’s a good move. Kid could be a decent top 9 forward, and he isn’t that young (an 88 birthday), so the learning and developing into an NHL’er will happen fast, if it happens at all, and he’ll be able to play with the cluster.

    The more and more I think about it, the Oilers need to move the first rounder this year to get a top Dman.

    Then sign better depth players and make a decision on moving one of Hemsky and Gagner for a little more help on D. (Or trade Hemsky or Gagner plus the first, for the best Dman possible.)

  11. Woodguy says:

    Nice to see that with Rajala in OKC and now this Miller signing that the org hasn’t given up on skill without size.

    Shows their minds aren’t as closed.

  12. RickDeckard says:

    I thought the Oilers were already up against the 50 contract limit?

  13. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    That was a great episode. I wish I knew Lisa Simpson, she’s pretty cool.

    steer clear of the moral scold.

    RickDeckard:
    I thought the Oilers were already up against the 50 contract limit?

    kicks in next year one presumes.

  14. Hammers says:

    Good on um . Think outside the box . You never know . Like the signing .

  15. eidy says:

    Sounds good….. Now what about Gernat.

    Howson included him in talking about the future today. Interview with Gregor over at oilers nation.

    I suspect we pass on jones squared now from quinnipac.

  16. Maestro Fresh Mess says:

    Is he a winger or centre ? I had originally heard he was a centre.

  17. Lowetide says:

    The bio and descriptions call him a R but I’ve also read C on twitter tonight.

  18. Woodguy says:

    Lord Bob linked to a great article on twitter.

    http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/04/17/soul-of-a-new-machine-anatoli-tarasovs-fancystats/

    Well worth a read.

  19. supernova says:

    i like these type of signings, the undersized forgotten players that have produced at colleges.

    I hope one of them turns in to a Martin St. Louis light or even a Cory Conacher.

    Tampa got good trade value in Conacher.

  20. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Woodguy: http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/04/17/soul-of-a-new-machine-anatoli-tarasovs-fancystats/

    I like this part:

    By passing constantly, even when it was apparently unnecessary, Tarasov found that he could sustain team possession for much longer than by relying on individual puck carriers. Moreover, the constant shifting of geometry confused and exhausted opponents from any country, as they found themselves chasing the puck from one angle to another. He trained his players to pass creatively, abruptly, and frequently, and judged the recipient of a pass to be just as responsible for its quality as the player who made it. When one player has the puck, he said, the other four should be trying to “mastermind” different possible passes for him, positioning themselves to provide more good options than the opposition can properly cover. It makes sense, intuitively: change the angles often enough and the lanes will appear. When he found that his high pass counts correlated with his victories, he made the metric an essential part of his policy.

    “apparently unnecessary”; “confused and exhausted opponents”

    haha!

  21. Lowetide says:

    That’s exactly what they did to Ken Dryden in 1972. If you look at Dryden in that series, he’s completely beaten by the time thing were done in Vancouver. He simply played the likely angles and it had worked so well against the Bruins in 1971.

    But the Russians always had one more pass. I don’t recall the SP for that series but would guess Esposito was better than Dryden by some distance.

    And that Tretiak was very good, especially in NA.

  22. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    How many passes does it take to reach the “Bobby Clarke is going to break your ankle” threshold?

    5? 3? 0?

  23. wheatnoil says:

    I’m not sure that we can take too much out of this one move. It may be a sign of things to come, a return of Omark and more, or it could be a single blip… the Oilers signing a free agent that many other teams were interested in as well. We know Tambellini was looking for size first, poise second, and skill a distant third over the last couple years (Kessey, Brown, Fistric, Moroz, etc etc). MacT’s M-O remains to be seen. At the very least, MacT doesn’t feel the Oilers have too many smaller forwards. One wonders, would MacT have made the Reider trade?

  24. Smarmy says:

    wheatnoil:
    . One wonders, would MacT have made the Reider trade?

    I’d say he’d have plenty of influence as much as three weeks ago so I’ll say yes.

  25. HiddenDarts says:

    Way, weh, whey off topic here, but watching the Jackets-Ducks game. You wanna see a team with some try, check the BJs. Absolutely unbelievable effort. Sadly, it’s one of those games where the Ducks just “casually make the play” and look like geniuses.

    Bonus detail: Cogliano still has the Meatball Hands. Not a beauty. Fast… lovable, but not so much with the hands…

  26. Lois Lowe says:

    I think this is a typical Oilers signing in a lot of ways. They really like the “big brain” types and a kid that goes to Yale would have that by reputation at the very least. Unlike those uncouth louts from Dartmouth. ;)

  27. dessert1111 says:

    If he plays C, it might spell the end of Arcobello’s time. Unless MacT really doesn’t mind having two small skill centres in the pipeline roughly the same age, which he might not.

  28. Woodguy says:

    Lois Lowe:
    I think this is a typical Oilers signing in a lot of ways. They really like the “big brain” types and a kid that goes to Yale would have that by reputation at the very least. Unlike those uncouth louts from Dartmouth.

    Good call on the “big brain”

    From Matty’s piece:

    But Oilers’ GM Craig MacTavish likes what he sees from Miller, who plays centre or the wing. “He’s not big but he’s strong on the puck and he’s got great hockey sense. He’s a real cerebral player,” said MacTavish. “He’s got the puck the whole time. He scored an overtime goal against my alma mater (Lowell-Mass, in the NCAA semi-final), going five-hole, then in the final buried the third goal (4-0 win), going five-hole again. “

    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/04/17/edmonton-oilers-sign-yale-captain-andrew-miller/

  29. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Not to mention Arco is out of Yale (maybe he had a connection) and Fedun is a Princeton guy, right?

    The Oil is stocking up on Ivys.

  30. hockeyguy10 says:

    I see Mr.Lucic is now on the 4th line in Boston. 10:53 in ice.0 shots,14 shifts,the same # of shifts as Thornton.Scheduled to get 6 mil next year. Maybe the Bruins use the compliance buy out on him if his play doesn’t improve.

  31. VanOil says:

    Tonight is the first night I have ever cheered for Kiprusoff may he leave the NHL in a blaze of glory that cost Calgary MacKinnon.

  32. FastOil says:

    While Miller is a skilled now heroic player, is he going to crack the top 6? At his size there is almost 0 chance, and if he does, it will likely be with another team.

    Waste of a signing. This type of decision making is what causes the Oilers to not develop enough players within the system. If you select players that have the most marginal chance of making the NHL, guess what, most don’t.

    If you’re gambling, the Khaira pick makes more sense – a big skilled mean guy from lower leagues. Diamonds in the rough, not gold specks in the pan when the nuggets are gone. I am disappointed MacT did this. Same old.

  33. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    FastOil: If you’re gambling, the Khaira pick makes more sense

    Fortunately, they don’t have to choose. They can have both prospects.

    Buffalo and Calgary won tonight.

    the tank keeps on rolling!

  34. Captain Happy says:

    HiddenDarts:
    Way, weh, whey off topic here, but watching the Jackets-Ducks game. You wanna see a team with some try, check the BJs. Absolutely unbelievable effort. Sadly, it’s one of those games where the Ducks just “casually make the play” and look like geniuses.

    Bonus detail: Cogliano still has the Meatball Hands. Not a beauty. Fast… lovable, but not so much with the hands…

    Here’s a fun fact.
    Nail Yakupov has 11 goals.
    Andrew Cogliano has 12 goals.

  35. VanOil says:

    Romulus Apotheosis
    the tank keeps on rolling!

    If Edmonton lands a 2nd franchise center in this draft due to our skill at tanking and Calgary rallies out of range the pain of the last seven years might be worth it.

  36. Lois Lowe says:

    FastOil:
    While Miller is a skilled now heroic player, is he going to crack the top 6? At his size there is almost 0 chance, and if he does, it will likely be with another team.

    Waste of a signing. This type of decision making is what causes the Oilers to not develop enough players within the system. If you select players that have the most marginal chance of making the NHL, guess what, most don’t.

    I disagree on two fronts: first, why does he have to make the top 6 to play on the Oilers? I would say that right now the Oilers are searching for players for the bottom 6; and a guy who is 24 may be able to step in and play AHL minutes next year, possibly 20-25 games in the NHL. The Tyler Bozaks of the world are the kind of top-end comparable we’re looking at with this kid. Likely he’s a depth forward. Second, how does he have a marginal chance at the NHL? He’s farther along the development path than Hamilton, Pitlick and many of the kids in OKC, just because he’s not played pro hockey doesn’t mean he can’t. Schultz, Arocbello and Fedun have shown that.

  37. PaperDesigner says:

    hockeyguy10:
    I see Mr.Lucic is now on the 4th line in Boston. 10:53 in ice.0 shots,14 shifts,the same # of shifts as Thornton.Scheduled to get 6 mil next year. Maybe the Bruins use the compliance buy out on him if his play doesn’t improve.

    Or just trade him and a second to Edmonton for Yakupov. Nobody is more Lucic-type than Lucic. In fact, is there a non-Lucic Lucic-type?

  38. dangilitis says:

    I know smart analysts put more stock into other stats besides +/-, but I was looking at the worst – numbers in the league and found an interesting list:

    D Erik Gudbranson FLA 31 0 4 4 -21 0 0 0 45 47 0.00 18:42
    D Brian Campbell FLA 42 7 17 24 -20 6 0 2 12 60 11.67 26:36
    C Jeff Skinner CAR 37 12 10 22 -19 5 0 0 24 144 8.33 18:22
    C Jordan Staal CAR 42 9 17 26 -19 1 0 1 28 106 8.49 19:56
    D Filip Kuba FLA 39 1 7 8 -17 0 0 0 20 46 2.17 21:25
    D Justin Schultz EDM 42 6 15 21 -17 4 0 1 6 75 8.00 21:33
    D Bruno Gervais PHI 37 1 5 6 -17 0 0 0 10 49 2.04 17:07
    C Olli Jokinen WPG 43 7 7 14 -16 0 0 0 12 81 8.64 17:26
    R Drew Stafford BUF 42 5 9 14 -16 0 0 0 19 111 4.50 16:54
    C Craig Smith NAS 40 3 6 9 -15 1 0 0 18 74 4.05 13:44
    L Mike Cammalleri CGY 40 12 16 28 -15 4 0 3 16 92 13.04 17:49
    D Nick Schultz EDM 42 1 6 7 -14 0 0 0 22 30 3.33 18:42
    D Mark Streit NYI 43 6 19 25 -14

    Not surprising to see some of the worst teams in the league as offenders, and often players who play a great deal of time per game. But you look around at some of those names and shake your head trying to explain it. Erik and Justin are going to both be mighty good, although they may not be lights out D-men. But those +/- have to improve, you would expect. Skinner and Staal are perplexing, but I suspect they are asked to take on harder lines than older bro and Semin? Skinner’s concussions seem to be taking their toll early, which is a real shame as he has amazing skill. But those +/- values don’t jive with the types of players we think those 2 are. Cammalleri seems to show more heart than his teammates, even before the Iggy trade, and he has some skill to go with that drive, so a bit surprising that he is the lone Flame at the bottom here. Nick Schultz – sorry, won’t be sad to see him go and I would be impressed if the Oilers got a D-men who can actually play any side of the game in return (as he can do neither – interesting in his comments previously implying that some Oilers are more worried about personal stats, because he clearly is not concerned about his, and I don’t see him playing the team game either. If this was a knock on J Schultz, he has left his partner out to dry way too often as expected for a veteran who should be showing his younger namesake the ropes. What’s even more scary is that Klefbom was recently quoted as saying he has been studying Nick’s game – I would much rather he didn’t. And then there’s Streit. I haven’t watched a lot of him this year, but his game has always struck me as a bit like Souray’s. Speaking of which, where is Souray on the +/- list? Oh, shit…. K Lowe, maybe he could have helped us this year. What’s that? Oh, your pride was hurt and you know more about winning than Souray, so you cut him a cheque in the past few years to play against the team…

  39. FastOil says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Fortunately, they don’t have to choose. They can have both prospects.

    Buffalo and Calgary won tonight.

    the tank keeps on rolling!

    Nice job by the competitors for the draft.

    What if they burn a contract on our highly skilled highly unlikely to play 5 NHL games cerebral talent?

    When the good college NHL prospects are gone (plus you already signed the best last time), you have 50 contracts and need vets to support the guys who the guy you picked can never replace, it’s time to say next year we’ll try again.

    There is no point in signing Miller, it’s a disservice to him and the team, if he has any ambition. And if he doesn’t why sign him in the first place? This is just like Tambellini, a poorly thought out situation that the smart teams weren’t interested in. I expect more from MacMBAneedmoreNHLplayers.

  40. fuzzy muppet says:

    FastOil,

    I agree. I can’t wait until next year when players that can fill an actual hole on the team pass through waivers because they are maxed out on contracts, again.

    Don’t get me wrong, I wish the kid the best but how does this help fill a need anywhere on the roster?

    Omark 2.0 at best. I hope I’m wrong

  41. HiddenDarts says:

    No one’s paying attention, despite the fact that everyone should. Jackets win. Pure heart, A literal exercise in what the Oilers are missing.

  42. eidy says:

    I am so cheering for Columbus. it would be so awesome for them to sneak in and NYR to not. I would give up one spot in draft to see them pick first with NYR’s pick

  43. dangilitis says:

    Oh, and just wanted to point out that Brodziak, in spite of his 2 goal performance last night, is -13 and in contention for worst +/- on a very good Minnesota team. Interesting that people keep pointing out what a loss he was for the Oilers. I see him as a player that a competent GM should easily be able to replace, and the price tag and term Minnesota paid for him are too high, in my opinion.

  44. Ribs says:

    dangilitis: n (as he can do neither – interesting in his comments previously implying that some Oilers are more worried about personal stats,

    Did he say that recently? Holy crap. We hear that every freaking season!. Who are these guys? Why are they still around?

  45. RickDeckard says:

    Captain Happy,

    Yakupov is 7 years younger than him. That’s like asking why Nathan MacKinnon has less goals than Mike Brown.

  46. VanOil says:

    PaperDesigner: Or just trade him and a second to Edmonton for Yakupov. Nobody is more Lucic-type than Lucic. In fact, is there a non-Lucic Lucic-type?

    It could be argued that this years Lucic is a non-Lucic Lucic-type. Big, tough, and hands of stone. Maybe even Lucic Lucic-type players have a short ‘prime’ of there careers. 1 or 2 shifts a season Lararque beat 3 players and went all world roof daddy. There could be an inverse relationship between size and toughness with longevity of skill. Big tough NFL running backs come to mind. Bring on more Hobbits!

  47. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    FastOil,

    fuzzy muppet,

    The problem with the 50 man is not skilled players who score, are mature and apparently defensively reliable, i.e., Miller.

    The problem with the 50 is useless facepunchers like Abney, Hordichuk, Eager, etc. A lot of those guys are coming of the lists this year. There will be plenty of room for a guy like this.

    The problem with the tank job is going to be games in hand and taylor hall. We’ve got a few games in hand on most of our competitors right now, which gives them the lead. Plus, we’ve got Taylor Hall…. we need to find a way to depress him for 2 weeks.

    someone send him pictures of sad kittens.

  48. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lucic is so last season.

    I want Jamie Benn if we are selling the farm for a power forward.

  49. Lois Lowe says:

    dangilitis,

    Campbell, Skinner, Staal, Schultz and Camalerri also score many of their points on the powerplay which skews their +/-.

  50. Kitchener says:

    VanOil:
    Tonight is the first night I have ever cheered for Kiprusoff may he leave the NHL in a blaze of glory that cost Calgary MacKinnon.

    Amen. .947 sv% and the stupid Flames just moved out of the top 4 picks. 5 shutouts down the stretch would be epic.

    Pros of signing Miller:
    – increases the likelihood that 1 fewer vet forward is returning
    – worst-case scenario: 24 yr-old talented winner in OKC
    – best-case scenario: the Rieder loss (smallish forward with upside) is mitigated
    – “sought after” means we can likely trade him later if needed, freeing up the roster spot

    Cons:
    – one more contract on the books

    At first glance, this is a small positive step.

  51. FastOil says:

    Lois Lowe: I disagree on two fronts: first, why does he have to make the top 6 to play on the Oilers? I would say that right now the Oilers are searching for players for the bottom 6; and a guy who is 24 may be able to step in and play AHL minutes next year, possibly 20-25 games in the NHL. The Tyler Bozaks of the world are the kind of top-end comparable we’re looking at with this kid. Likely he’s a depth forward. Second, how does he have a marginal chance at the NHL? He’s farther along the development path than Hamilton, Pitlick and many of the kids in OKC, just because he’s not played pro hockey doesn’t mean he can’t. Schultz, Arocbello and Fedun have shown that.

    Lois I don’t question anything about the quality of this player except that he may be the smallest yet. MacT spoke of grit and skill. He knows you need grit, and this guy makes Marchand of the Bruins look formidable. Not a bottom 6′er.

    He has such a small chance of the NHL despite his skill at some point they (who allegedly let Tambellini call the shots and then made exactly the same type of signing after failing to land the NHL calibre guys) have to stop doing this. He may be a superstar some day, but when you’re playing the low odds you have to go for the most chances at the safest bet (which in the NHL is plays a full game 6’1″ 205 lbs, stats established as NHL average).

    The difference between top and bottom line players on a good team (with a very few exceptional exceptions) should only be the ability to produce points. Passing, skating, enough physicality, drive, consistency should all be there. Using players with large gaps in their game is the territory of the teams like the Oilers. Oh.

    Corey Potter for example is doing this now (possibly always). Big enough, not spectacular, moves the puck forward.

  52. FastOil says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    FastOil,

    fuzzy muppet,

    The problem with the 50 man is not skilled players who score, are mature and apparently defensively reliable, i.e., Miller.

    The problem with the 50 is useless facepunchers like Abney, Hordichuk, Eager, etc. A lot of those guys are coming of the lists this year. There will be plenty of room for a guy like this.

    The problem with the tank job is going to be games in hand and taylor hall. We’ve got a few games in hand on most of our competitors right now, which gives them the lead. Plus, we’ve got Taylor Hall…. we need to find a way to depress him for 2 weeks.

    someone send him pictures of sad kittens.

    Put him at centre, he’ll have a personal challenge and the learning curve will keep his production at least close to flat.

  53. hunter1909 says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Any rational follower of Canadian hockey in 1972 knew that Kharlamov had to go. Clarke probably saved the world from nuclear war or something.

    In 2013, I’ll bet that every French/British general sends tanks to the hypothetical 1940 Ardennes.

  54. "Steve Smith" says:

    FastOil: …and this guy makes Marchand of the Bruins look formidable. Not a bottom 6′er.

    The difference between top and bottom line players on a good team (with a very few exceptional exceptions) should only be the ability to produce points.

    Sure thing, chief.

  55. hunter1909 says:

    FastOil,

    Yes, but this assuages the father David Bauer element that permeates hockey. Small, skilled players going up against bigger stronger meaner players, with the refs standing by to control the game with the tenacity of NWO security forces.

    Naturally this doesn’t really exist in a game where refs pretty well can do whatever they like. See the 2011 Canucks for proof of this “outrageous” theory.

    Captain Happy: Here’s a fun fact.
    Nail Yakupov has 11 goals.
    Andrew Cogliano has 12 goals.

    Cogliano has been playing in the NHL for the past 5 years and on average scores 14 goals per 82 game season. Therefore, Yaks has 10 percent of Cogliano’s experience.

    Here’s another “fact”. You’ve got just as many goals this season as Bobby Orr!

  56. hunter1909 says:

    dangilitis,

    If nothing else, Oiler fans love their retreads.

  57. hunter1909 says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Lucic is so last season.

    Incredible that fans of loser teams actually think Boston’s going to flush this guy without insane compensation, or that power forwards don’t generally end up with chronic injuries and wash out by 30 or so. Oilers have Taylor Hall, and Yaks – a combination of speed, skill and grit that would, in a perfectly sane universe gain an entire top six of Lucics.

    To place this on a proper(Chinese philosophy) footing:

    “Many err by seeking what is far, instead of what’s near”.

  58. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide: That’s exactly what they did to Ken Dryden in 1972.

    Dryden always stunk against the Reds.

  59. FastOil says:

    “Steve Smith”:
    Sure thing, chief.

    I’m responding late and find it hard not to retort to your dickish “chief”. No need for you to comment back about me mentioning it, my father is a lawyer, I understand.

    Isn’t it your thought that all player’s jobs are to score? How can they all score a lot and be on the same team? Or should there be good and bad players?

    The difference I meant being no non-skaters, those foreign to touching a puck with their stick, lacking any kind of sense of spatial recognition, guys who apparently haven’t played organized hockey before, you know what I mean.

    So it seems you support signing this player, and if you do perhaps you could say why and how this shows a change in style and contract management for the better? Does he have any chance of playing more than a game or two for the Oilers or any NHL team?

    How many diminutive former Oiler players are on other NHL teams other than Cogliano? Seems there are a few typical sized players that have stuck. Given they signed Miller, what chance is there he doesn’t waste a contract, again?

  60. speeds says:

    dessert1111:
    If he plays C, it might spell the end of Arcobello’s time. Unless MacT really doesn’t mind having two small skill centres in the pipeline roughly the same age, which he might not.

    Arcobello is 4th in AHL scoring, hard to imagine he isn’t helping the AHL team. Why would EDM get rid of him even if they doubt he’ll be an NHLer?

  61. Marc says:

    Lois Lowe: I think this is a typical Oilers signing in a lot of ways. They really like the “big brain” types and a kid that goes to Yale would have that by reputation at the very least. Unlike those uncouth louts from Dartmouth.

    Ooh. Low blow.

    At least our fight song isn’t based on made up words (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boola_Boola)

  62. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    FastOil: Put him at centre, he’ll have a personal challenge and the learning curve will keep his production at least close to flat.

    I like this a lot.

    this. and sad kittens.

    hunter1909:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Any rational follower of Canadian hockey in 1972 knew thatKharlamov had to go. Clarke probably saved the world from nuclear war or something.

    In 2013, I’ll bet that every French/British general sends tanks to the hypothetical 1940 Ardennes.

    I take it you’re more of a “Green Berets” kind of guy than a “Paths of Glory” kind of guy?

    hunter1909: Dryden always stunk against the Reds.

    “better dead than red”

  63. Marc says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Not to mention Arco is out of Yale (maybe he had a connection) and Fedun is a Princeton guy, right?The Oil is stocking up on Ivys.

    Given this, I would keep an eye on Tyler Sikura
    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=76371
    He’s a 6’2” undrafted center who led Dartmouth in scoring as both a freshman and a sophomore

  64. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Marc: Given this, I would keep an eye on Tyler Sikura
    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=76371
    He’s a 6’2” undrafted center who led Dartmouth in scoring as both a freshman and a sophomore

    interesting. always hard to say whether these guys mid-degree want to finish school or jump ship to the AHL. I’d guess they’d leave for the NHL, but playing in college with your buddies and ladies your own age everywhere is probably more attractive than the AHL with 2 years left in your degree.

  65. godot10 says:

    FastOil: Nice job by the competitors for the draft.

    There is no point in signing Miller, it’s a disservice to him and the team, if he has any ambition. And if he doesn’t why sign him in the first place? This is just like Tambellini, a poorly thought out situation that the smart teams weren’t interested in. I expect more from MacMBAneedmoreNHLplayers.

    You do realize the main reason the Oilers season went up in smoke is because they had no centres when Horcoff, Lander, and Belanger all went down in the space of a week?

    Cory Conacher got Tampa a solid backup goaltender, who might emerge as a #1.

    A top US college player just means that one doesn’t have to sign an top six AHL vet to an NHL contract to make sure the AHL team is competitive. It means the Oilers don’t have to worry if Arcobello want to look for an organization where he will have a better NHL shot.

    The 50-contract limit is not really a difficult limit if one doesn’t sign useless players like Hordichuk and Eager. Or if one is decisive with prospects coming off of their entry levels deals.

  66. godot10 says:

    speeds: Arcobello is 4th in AHL scoring, hard to imagine he isn’t helping the AHL team. Why would EDM get rid of him even if they doubt he’ll be an NHLer?

    Don’t qualifying offers have to be one way deals? So Arco will be an extremely expensive AHL player next year if the Oilers qualify him. So they won’t. They will try negotiating a new 2-way deal with him, or an AHL only deal, but Arco will also be free then to look for an organization where he will have a better NHL opportunity.

  67. leadfarmer says:

    I am wondering if in an effort to get a Lucic type the oil completely overpay for Lucic who is not even a Lucic type player. They should find the next Lucic type player or even a step below. That Glencross guy would fit the bill, scores, hits, kind of mean to play against, but how would the oil ever get their hands on a guy lke that. Its not like he fell in their lap and they let him go or anything.

    Capt Happy to be Trolling the Oilers. The problem with making a team of midgets a few years ago was that someone was going to get a decent midget for cheap and I am surprised more teams that lacked skill didnt pounce. The Ducks got a decent player for cheap that had no future with the Oil, just like some team will with Gagner next year. He would fit well in a good defensive team that lacks scoring that can make up for his deficient defensive play. Phoenix, Nashville types.

  68. leadfarmer says:

    Smyth is showing us why you dont sign a 35+ player to more than a 1 year contract especially when you know you are the only team he wants to play for. I think my preseason prediction that he is done after the year will come true.

    Columbus has a great team game and definitely plays better than the some of their parts. I hope they make the playoffs and take down a team in the first round. I think I’m the only one on here that didnt think they would end up dead last but I never expected them to be in a playoff race.

    Is this team going to go the Columbus rebuild model? Hope not.

  69. FastOil says:

    godot10: Don’t qualifying offers have to be one way deals?So Arco will be an extremely expensive AHL player next year if the Oilers qualify him.So they won’t.They will try negotiating a new 2-way deal with him, or an AHL only deal, but Arco will also be free then to look for an organization where he will have a better NHL opportunity.

    True, Conacher brought a return after they gave him a really good shot in the NHL. What frustrates me is that the Oilers history suggests they won’t do that, and Tampa was willing to part with their great rookie and they need young offensive talent, why?

    Perhaps as you said Miller is for the AHL with Arcobello maybe leaving, except Miller seems to be RW. I think I would rather see Pitlick play those minutes (even less well) because he has a much better chance at playing for the Oilers in a meaningful way. Just seems a lot like a Tambellini move after failing to land the NHL prospect guys. I was hoping for a different tack.

  70. speeds says:

    godot10: Don’t qualifying offers have to be one way deals?So Arco will be an extremely expensive AHL player next year if the Oilers qualify him.So they won’t.They will try negotiating a new 2-way deal with him, or an AHL only deal, but Arco will also be free then to look for an organization where he will have a better NHL opportunity.

    No, QO’s don’t have to be one way deals. In certain circumstances, players that had a one way contract are even eligible for two way QO’s.

    Arcobello does have to clear waivers this fall though.

  71. Нинтендо⁶⁴ says:

    The beauty of college UFA prospects is that they don’t clog up the 50 spots for years like drafted prospects. The fork in the road is much closer. This signing is the least of the headcount issues.

  72. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Нинтендо⁶⁴:
    The beauty of college UFA prospects is that they don’t clog up the 50 spots for years like drafted prospects. The fork in the road is much closer. This signing is the least of the headcount issues.

    well said.

  73. Reg Dunlop says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Not to mention Arco is out of Yale (maybe he had a connection) and Fedun is a Princeton guy, right?

    The Oil is stocking up on Ivys.

    Maybe the oil are planning an off-season production of Love Story.

  74. BONVIE says:

    Lowetide: I was thinking about that today. If the Oilers are signing this guy, then Omark would certainly be a consideration, right? Of course, Omark wasn’t exactly stellar without the puck and we don’t know if this guy can play a more complete game.

    No kidding, this blows me away. Our top skill outside the NHL Rajalla, Omark, Arcobello, and Lander all on yhe small size, and it’s obvious we lack a bit of size on our NHL roster already.

    This just makes no sense.

  75. Lois Lowe says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: interesting. always hard to say whether these guys mid-degree want to finish school or jump ship to the AHL. I’d guess they’d leave for the NHL, but playing in college with your buddies and ladies your own age everywhere is probably more attractive than the AHL with 2 years left in your degree.

    I think anyone who has the opportunity to get an Ivy education would have the good sense to see that process through. Professional hockey careers are short at best, and a reputable degree can actually take you somewhere in life. A friend of mine from elementary school got a full ride to Brown to be a backup goalie and he’s working in finance now in NYC as a result.

  76. dessert1111 says:

    speeds: Arcobello is 4th in AHL scoring, hard to imagine he isn’t helping the AHL team. Why would EDM get rid of him even if they doubt he’ll be an NHLer?

    Only because it seems like a very Oilers thing to do. I certainly don’t think they should. Maybe things really have changed in the organization, and if that’s the case, it’s cause for celebration.

  77. gcw_rocks says:

    leadfarmer,

    I said the same thing last summer. Really stupid to sign him to a 2 year deal. But, Oilers.

    The thing I don’t like about Miller is his birth certificate. The other free agents being snapped up are 21 to 23 and we grab the guy turning 25. Sigh.

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