OKC V TEXAS 5.4.13

The Oklahoma City Barons have done what they’re supposed to do: spend the winter allowing the cream to rise to the top. The best prospects in OKC? A 2nd rounder from 2009, another from 2010, and a bunch of guys taken after round 3 (or undrafted).

Here’s a look at the best players in OKC, with their ranking in my winter top 20 in brackets.

  1. (#4) D Martin Marincin (33, 3-9-12). Got off to a crazy start playing alongside Justin Schultz (18, 3-8-11 +12) but fell to earth in December (10, 0-2-2 -4) before settling in as a solid second-third pairing option (33, 3-9-12 +10) since the new year. Overall, I think it’s been a very good year for the 2-way defender; more work to do–have to iron out the chaos–but he’s on track.
  2. (#5) L Teemu Hartikainen (10, 3-8-11). I believe the Oilers should have traded Ryan Jones and inserted this guy. He’s spending his final games in the minors, Harski won’t clear waivers in the fall and he’s too valuable to lose for nothing. There’s not a hockey fan alive who can name 14 better forwards in this organization. He’s at 48 NHL games, ready to graduate from my list and get a full NHL season in 2013-14.
  3. (#11) C Anton Lander (18, 6-7-13). I find the Oilers behavior excruciating when it comes to handling Lander. Leave. him. alone. Lander may or may not be an NHL player at some point, but he lost a season in 11-12 to being overwhelmed by the NHL and quite a bit of this year to NHLers being in OKC. For crying out loud, let him play!
  4. (#18) D Taylor Fedun (32, 4-12-16). This is a guy who really did lost an entire year (to an injury) but has shown well during his debut AHL season. Fedun’s undersized but not terribly so (6.0, 190) and has some nice things on his resume. Edmonton has invested plenty in him and it looks like there could be a player here. Certainly his performance this season warrants a return to the OKC blueline.
  5. (#25) C Mark Arcobello (35, 11-18-29). He’s convinced me that he can play, and I do believe an NHL career is possible. Arcobello impressed a great deal when thrust into the 1line C rule in OKC, centering NHL wingers. He flourished, and could gain some traction with the NHL team if the Oilers move out a center over the summer.
  6. (#26) L Toni Rajala (31, 10-22-32). Small winger has done more to help his career than anyone in OKC this season. Started in Stockton because of all the NHLers in OKC, and just kept working. Now? He’s facing an uphill climb, but man is he on the radar.
  7. (#29) L Phil Cornet (28, 11-14-25). Similar to Rajala in that he’s a long shot, but if an AHL winger keeps scoring 20+ goals a season someone is going to take a long look sooner or later. Cornet’s story is unlikely to be written with the Oilers, but one suspects we’ll hear about him down the line.

There are a large number of young players who have fallen away this season, or continued their slide (Pitlick, Hamilton, Teubert) during the 2012-13 year. Among the players who I haven’t listed above who could still have NHL careers (Pelss, Davidson, Martindale, Roy) I don’t think any improved their ranking during the year. Some of that is due to injury (Pelss, Davidson) but for the rest it’s been hard nose the highway. Finally, the arrows:

  • UP ARROWS: Marincin, Hartikainen, Lander, Fedun, Arcobello, Rajala, Cornet
  • ARROWS IN BETWEEN: Pelss, Davidson, Martindale, Roy, VandeVelde, House
  • DOWN ARROWS: Pitlick, Hamilton, Teubert, Tyrvainen, Plante, Abney

And from last season:

  • UP ARROWS: Arcobello, Cornet, Hartikainen, Paajarvi, Tremblay, Omark, Plante
  • ARROWS IN BETWEEN: Pitlick, VandeVelde, House, Tyrvainen, Hamilton, Teubert
  • DOWN ARROWS: Tulupov, Martindale, Motin, Abney

First rounders Teubert and Plante, second rounders Pitlick and Hamilton and third rounder Abney are going the wrong way.

ahlsta

 

The famous phrase “don’t look back, someone might be gaining on you” applies to the Barons. Keep on truckin’, gents.

In the three seasons OKC has been sending players to the NHL, they have graduated:

  • 2010: Jeff Petry, Linus Omark, Colin McDonald
  • 2011: Magnus Paajarvi
  • 2012: (my guess) Teemu Hartikainen, Anton Lander

I think Todd Nelson and the Barons are producing useful players at a good clip. Do you agree?

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52 Responses to "OKC V TEXAS 5.4.13"

  1. Gerta Rauss says:

    When the Smithson trade was announced I was certain that Jones would be gone in the following hour and Harty would be called up. It made so much sense.

    And maybe they tried(the Bishop trade).

    Either way, he’s pencilled in for my roster fall of ’13.

  2. Lowetide says:

    Yeah, I think they had in mind to add Bishop. Which makes complete sense, and I’m pleased they targeted him. I’m also not surprised Ottawa went with the Tampa Bay package–that was a helluva price they paid.

  3. Lois Lowe says:

    I am impressed with what the Barons have done this year. The biggest thing that they seem to have learned is that you need good AHL vets on the team to help the kids develop properly. We’ll start to see the truly talented prospects finding their way up the depth chart this way and I think it’s the first step to the “Detroit model” prospect development. It’s going to be interesting to see who gets, or keeps, a contract this summer.

  4. Bar_Qu says:

    Lowetide,

    The want of reliable goaltending makes GMs go mad. Either they overpay or they lose all perspective a la Bob Clarke.

    At least there is some reliability in that position for Edm/OKC. I know Bishop would’ve been good, but I believe in DDs play and that he can maintain it, with an average back-up. And there looks like some light in the prospect Gs too. Crooked arrows, but whaddyagonnadu?

  5. Lowetide says:

    Bar_Qu: I agree Dubnyk is the starter, I think he’s had a fine season. I just want a quality backup and someone who can push the #1, maybe even step in when the starter is flagging. If Bishop becomes a quality #1, then you deal him for a handsome price.

    Dubnyk is the better goalie imo.

  6. Southern Oil says:

    Lowetide:
    Bar_Qu: I agree Dubnyk is the starter, I think he’s had a fine season. I just want a quality backup and someone who can push the #1, maybe even step in when the starter is flagging. If Bishop becomes a quality #1, then you deal him for a handsome price.

    Dubnyk is the better goalie imo.

    I am pleased as well that they targeted Bishop but am also pleased they didn’t pay the price TBay did. That’s too much IMO but great asset management from Murray in Ottawa. It would be nice if our crew could take some lessons from that.

  7. Lowetide says:

    Oklahoma City Barons ‏@OKC_Barons 3m

    #OKCBarons D-Pairs: Marincin-Fedun, Davidson-Stafford, Deck-Plante. Danis in net with Niko Hovinen backing up

  8. Lowetide says:

    Oklahoma City Barons ‏@OKC_Barons 4m

    #OKCBarons lines: Cornet-Arcobello-Cheechoo, Rajala-VandeVelde-Hartikainen, Hamilton-Martindale-Pelss, Tyrvainen-House-Eager

  9. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    The Lander situation is nutty.

    It’s like having a long distance relationship in your 20s. You don’t waste your prime development years sitting on the bench. you have to get out there and play.

    on the other hand… I’ve been arguing with Gregor about Whitney over at ON. One little nugget I’ve discovered that I can’t recall being mentioned is that this year and last his shots per game have been hurled down the elevator shaft:

    http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/w/whitnry01.html

    his career avg. is 1.47. last year .80; this .79.

    I don’t know how telling this stat is. I gather it is no where near as informative as his corsirel… still though, it’s quite a drop.

    my guess is TOI is strongly at play here as well as the amount of time he plays in his own end these past few years.

    Can’t find SOG/60 anywhere.

  10. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    Bar_Qu: I agree Dubnyk is the starter, I think he’s had a fine season. I just want a quality backup and someone who can push the #1, maybe even step in when the starter is flagging. If Bishop becomes a quality #1, then you deal him for a handsome price.

    Dubnyk is the better goalie imo.

    that’s basically what OTT did. They picked him up cheap as insurance and dealt him high.

  11. leadfarmer says:

    Ha, Eager is playing 4th line in the AHL, Time to hang it up. I disagree on the down arrow on Abney, he is doing as expected.

  12. leadfarmer says:

    MEaning nothing. I agree with you on Lander. He should be packaged with a label that says do not open before 2015.

  13. Lowetide says:

    Rom: Yes, good teams can find good goalies and turn them over for plus assets. Or, go find a worthy Euro free agent
    http://oilersnation.com/2011/5/11/fasth-train

  14. Lowetide says:

    TweetNeal just sent out that Kristians Pelss is back tonight. Very good news!

  15. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide: http://oilersnation.com/2011/5/11/fasth-train

    Oh LT… why don’t they read your damn posts?

    also, what’s going on with college procurement… is everyone after Dekeyser not worth a look?

    they can’t all be on the 4 remaining teams can they?

  16. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide:
    Bar_Qu: I agree Dubnyk is the starter, I think he’s had a fine season. I just want a quality backup and someone who can push the #1, maybe even step in when the starter is flagging. If Bishop becomes a quality #1, then you deal him for a handsome price.

    Dubnyk is the better goalie imo.

    Maybe you can pry Frederick Andersen from ANA.

    Put up a .932 this year in 45 games for Norfolk.

    Hiller in under contract for 1 more year and Fasth for 2 more years.

    I’m not sure that Fasth takes Hiller’s job. Fasth has .924 and Hiller a .908 this year, HIller is still a career .917.

    I’d poke around for sure.

  17. Lowetide says:

    Crap. 2-0 already.

  18. Lowetide says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Oh LT… why don’t they read your damn posts?

    also, what’s going on with college procurement… is everyone after Dekeyser not worth a look?

    they can’t all be on the 4 remaining teams can they?

    Guys signing now are probably getting a chance to burn off a season of eligibility. Oilers can’t offer that, because they are at 50 contracts.

  19. Maestro Fresh Mess says:

    A disappointing bunch for the most part. Not so magnificent bastard?

    I would have offered Hemsky for Bishop. I would have been pleased if Khabby was dealt for Scrivens. I would have been satisfied if he was dealt for a third rounder.

    Quite disappointed we got nothing for Omark, unless Ralph has indicated to ST that he thinks he could coach him and they decide to sign him.

  20. Lucinius says:

    Not a great first period for the Barons. Smothered to death.

    Tyrvainen did have a nice big hit.

    And the dog is the best part of the Oil Kings opener!

  21. sliderule says:

    Zharkov with a goal 5 to 2 Belvedere .

    Don’t want him to be too good as a fourth rounder we will trade for crap that will sign for minimum.

  22. Lowetide says:

    Sliderule: That’s my worry with Gernat. He can re-enter the draft, suspect his agent is asking for higher dollars.

  23. sliderule says:

    LT
    As Gernat was drafted out of Europe do they have extra time to sign him?

  24. Lowetide says:

    Hamilton (Deck)

  25. Lowetide says:

    sliderule:
    LT
    As Gernat was drafted out of Europe do they have extra time to sign him?

    Excellent question. I’ll check.

  26. prairieschooner says:

    sliderule: LTAs Gernat was drafted out of Europe do they have extra time to sign him?

    My info is pretty well the same as yours LT
    If he goes back in the draft he would be picked much much higher which I think would mean he would get more bonus money anyway.
    Hopefully the Oilers don’t feel the need to make a statement with a promising 6’5″ dman

  27. Lucinius says:

    Really liking Marincin’s game tonight so far.

  28. Lucinius says:

    Well, shit. St. Louis wins over Columbus. Furthermore, Detroit is leading Colorado 2-1 at the end of 2 periods.

  29. Lowetide says:

    Cornet (Arcobello) tied 2-2 late.

  30. VanOil says:

    I don’t find this list when taken as a whole disappointing. Individual prospects yes, it is a shame Teubert did not turn into a rugged shut down style defensemen that would bridge the gap for a couple years when more talented prospects could replace him.

    If you go by a 1in3 or even a more conservative 1in5 rule of prospects working out I see an OK(C) future that is fairly rosie.

    On Defense, even behind Kelfbom who might never see OKC, I could see 2 of the 7 of Taylor Fedun, Martin Marincin, Dillon Simpson, Martin Germat, David Musil, Kyle Bigos, Brandon Daivdson working out an becoming regular NHL players. Some like Fedum might only be marginal but others have top 4 potential. I would love it if the Oilers were less panicked (bad) and brought one up every 2nd year after at least 2 years pro.

    For winged coke machines there are way to many to list. For my own sanity I hope one works out so they stop picking, trading for and other wise wasting time on these. (I am very proud not swearing here)

    We are week as an organization at talented centers and goalies. I hope we use all our upcoming picks on these as they take long to develop. Sadly I am sure it will be coke machineitis until Lowe feels less emasculated. Imagine giving Todd Nelson 3 full years to work with a talented center to get him NHL ready, Calder here we come.

    Fkn Blues won

  31. Lowetide says:

    Lucinius:
    Well, shit. St. Louis wins over Columbus. Furthermore, Detroit is leading Colorado 2-1 at the end of 2 periods.

    That Detroit game is the big one. Oilers need them to lose three in a row.

  32. Lucinius says:

    Lowetide,

    Agreed. Wishing we played them, really put in the hands of the team instead of having to score board watch this much.

    A lot to be angry about with the Oilers this year (largely management-wise), but its very nice to be score board watching for anything but vengeful spite.

  33. Lowetide says:

    House scores very late, major goal for the Barons 3-2 with about 15 seconds left.

  34. Lowetide says:

    house (VandeVelde)

  35. Lucinius says:

    Well…. odd win by the Barons. That Texas goalie was largely outstanding and then lets in a very soft one to give the Barons the much needed win.

  36. MrEd says:

    Love the OKC updates. Thanks LT.

    On the side: Noticed Cogliano has his 12th tonight. What’s more amazing than that is that he has yet to miss a game in his entire professional career. Atta boy right?

  37. VanOil says:

    Looks like OKC should make the playoffs with games in hand over Milwaukee and Rockford. Not looking good for the Oilers with Detroit winning. Those mid March losses to DET, SJS, and STL are looking like the nails in the coffin. 2 of those 3 were winable on the night, giving up leads in the third I recall.

  38. eidy says:

    The old cba was 2 years for Europeans.

    New one I think says 4 years for 18 or 19 year olds. I don’t know if it begins with this draft

  39. Lucinius says:

    Well, Colorado tied it up.13:30 to go.

  40. Lowetide says:

    Moroz scores for the Oil Kings, 3-0 over Medicine Hat.

  41. VanOil says:

    Dekeyser is looking like he is the real deal. He would have looked even better as an Oiler.

  42. Lucinius says:

    Red Wings have gotten real lucky in the third. Three or four times the Avs have almost scored.

  43. Lucinius says:

    Red Wings eke out at least a point.

    I think I saw more turn overs from Datsyuk in that third period than I normally see in a year from him.

  44. VanOil says:

    Lucinius:
    Red Wings eke out at least a point.

    I think I saw more turn overs from Datsyuk in that third period than I normally see in a year from him.

    Agreed Datsyuk has been a surprisingly high event player tonight.

    edit: Way to high event

  45. Lucinius says:

    God damn Wings win.

  46. Ducey says:

    Lowetide:
    Moroz scores for the Oil Kings, 3-0 over Medicine Hat.

    Ewanyk too. Both +3.

  47. VanOil says:

    I just found the center I want the Oilers to draft. Alex Wennberg, watch this clip he literary scores with his ass, making him the perfect Horcoff replacement. http://youtu.be/TROT5u_971s

  48. Ice Sage says:

    Grim night of scoreboard watching for Oiler fans. I did smile when I saw this handmade sign in the stands of the Hitmen-Rebels game “THANKS TO YOU SUTTERS (the flames are in the gutters)”.
    Brent was scowling

  49. nelson88 says:

    Roy with another nice game for the W. If he can take the Thunder deep in the playoffs it would be a positive step in erasing the “choke” monicker in big games.

  50. godot10 says:

    Gernat can probably go over and play two years for the Slovak team in the KHL, prepare for the Olympics, and secure his future earning a million dollars, and then come back on a max 2 year ELC as a UFA.

    Why not do that rather than play for $40K for two years in the AHL? And be tied to one team till 27?

    True, the Oilers will probably release Marincin and him for the Olympics anyway.

    The Oilers won when Justin Schultz decided to use the rules to his advantage. Why should we condemn the Oilers for being unable to sign a player who has the ability to beat the system designed to keep him underpaid and force him to play for a particular team?

    Like Rieder, Gernat has options. Under the old CBA, where one had to sign Europeans in two years, late round drafted Europeans who overperform signficantly have the ability to beat the draft system.

  51. godot10 says:

    The thing is, the Oilers shouldn’t burn bridges with Gernat if he uses the system to his advantage.

    Gernat is now familiar with the organization and Edmonton. In two years, Marincin might be on the Oilers squad. The Oilers will be a rising hockey team, and will likely still be one of Gernat’s options.

  52. godot10 says:

    Maybe the Oilers even have a nudge-nudge wink-wink deal with Gernat. The Oilers don’t really have room for Gernat in OKC next year anyways. And they don’t want to set a precedent signing a 5th round draft pick to 1st round money.

    So you let him go to Europe for two years, with the understanding that there is a 2-year (probably max) ELC waiting for him. True, he will have the choice of every other team also in two years, but it is not like the Oilers have any leverage.

    “If you ‘love’ somebody, set them free.”

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