WILD AT OILERS G42 (12-13) 16.4.13

After the events of yesterday, it’s difficult to focus on the final games of the season. I will watch this evening in hopes of a much better effort and will look forward to hearing what the players say about the firing of Steve Tambellini and moving Craig MacTavish to the GM job. Honestly though, I’d rather they scrap the game and let MacTavish talk for 2 hours about what he’s going to do this summer.

I think the deadline was a poor one for Tambellini, but remain convinced the inertia at center contributed more to his firing. Horcoff and Belanger went down the same night and the GM did nothing–and the team lost and lost and lost again. The deadline offered the team a chance to offload some expiring contracts in Ryan Whitney, Mark Fistric, Nikolai Khabibulin and Ryan Jones.

Let’s take these one at a time:

  • Jim Matheson says he believes the Oilers could have gotten a 2nd round pick for Whitney, but I don’t think it’s true (or the club would have pulled the trigger). It’s far more likely other NHL teams’ pro scouts send back reports that suggested their club look elsewhere for deadline help. 
  • Fistric is a player Edmonton may some interest in keeping, I’d expect we’ll see more of him between now and the end of the season.
  • Khabibulin may have had a market for his services, which makes it impossible to justify his presence on the current roster.
  • Ryan Jones may have been offered around, but we don’t really know his league book value (it may be far less than one would expect based on his last two full seasons worth of offense. There are some warts and he did sustain an injury in the off-season).

Oklahoma City Barons defenseman Brandon Davidson, who returned after undergoing cancer treatment during the season, has been named the 2012-13 winner of the Fred Hunt Memorial Award as the American Hockey League player who best exemplifies the qualities of sportsmanship, determination and dedication to hockey.

Davidson was diagnosed with testicular cancer early in the season and returned to play three months after the initial diagnosis. In November, Davidson had the cancerous tissue removed and underwent one round of chemotherapy.

Following successful treatment, the 21-year-old Davidson returned to the Barons lineup in February.

MacT’s first move as GM was to improve team depth, as he recalled Teemu Hartikainen (why in hell he was in the AHL is a mystery) and Anton Lander as they get ready for a crazy schedule next week. I think the club may pull Whitney, Jones and Smithson out of the lineup as soon as tonight, the club might as well look at these fellows while they have a chance.

The Oilers are currently in 8th place in terms of draft order (if the season ended today). I think we can safely count out the following players (they’ll be off the board when they hit the podium):

  1. Seth Jones
  2. Jonathan Drouin
  3. Slava Barkov
  4. Nathan MacKinnon
  5. Sean Monahan

If any of those young men fall to #8, Oilers would no doubt grab them in a heartbeat. However, beyond that there appears to be a gap to the next group, and that might mean the club either trades out of their slot or deals the pick for a useful plug and play type. Among the group they would probably considerat #8:

  • Elias Lindholm, a 2-way center with skill. 
  • Anthony Mantha, a big powerforward who scored 50 in the QMJHL this season.
  • Valeri Nichushkin, a Russian winger with size (it would help if he was in the CHL).
  • Rasmus Ristolainen, a fine 2-way defender with size and skill.
  • Curtis Lazar, 2-way center with skill and physical element.
  • Nikita Zadorov, a mountain on defense who flattens forwards with a single bound.

 

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  1. Kris11 says:

    If you trade Gagner, Hemsky, and the first rounder, and you add UFA’s, and dump the passengers, can you make this a top 10 team?

  2. hunter1909 says:

    Eberle has to go to a finance company to borrow money at usurous interest?

  3. Captain Happy says:

    Kris11:
    If you trade Gagner, Hemsky, and the first rounder, and you add UFA’s, and dump the passengers, can you make this a top 10 team?

    No.

  4. OilLeak says:

    Scotty LaDouche:
    With the fifth overall pick, the Edmonton Oilers select…..

    Barkov!

    What? It could happen…

  5. fuzzy muppet says:

    OilLeak,

    Didn’t Barkov just have a major shoulder procedure???

  6. Lowetide says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    OilLeak,

    Didn’t Barkov just have a major shoulder procedure???

    He’s ALREADY an Oiler!

  7. RickDeckard says:

    Scotty LaDouche,

    Aleksander Barkov from Tappara in the Finnish Elite League.

    (presumably Calgary went off the board and drafted a HS kid again)

  8. bookje says:

    Smyth would be an ok 13th forward. No need to buy him out. Eager and Belanger?

  9. RickDeckard says:

    fuzzy muppet,

    Apparently he’s only out for 2 months. He’ll miss the WHCs but should be good to go by the draft.

  10. Amadeus says:

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  11. hunter1909 says:

    bookje: Smyth would be an ok 13th forward. No need to buy him out.

    What? And miss out on seeing him cry again?

  12. jonrmcleod says:

    Anyone think Petrell resembles Brienne of Tarth (Game of Thrones)?

  13. BlueNoteNorth says:

    bookje:
    Smyth would be an ok 13th forward.No need to buy him out.Eager and Belanger?

    Belanger first, then if you need more cap Smyth. Eager is a cheap bury at $0.175 cap hit.

  14. OilLeak says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    OilLeak,

    Didn’t Barkov just have a major shoulder procedure???

    He’s Perfect!

  15. regwald says:

    bookje:
    Smyth would be an ok 13th forward.No need to buy him out.Eager and Belanger?

    Wouldn’t it make sense to use the compliance buyout to save some $$ ?

    Eager makes $1.2M, Belanger $1.25M, Smyth $2.25 next season (actual $$, not cap hit). Why waste it on such small $$$ amounts ?

    Horc makes $4M, then $3M. They still need him next season, but will he look like Smyth the season after ?

  16. pboy says:

    My shoulder hurts just watching these guys.

    MacT is saying all of the right things. I hope he has autonomy to build the team that he’s talking about but I don’t want to see any of the Fab 5 get moved. Between Hemsky, Gagner, the 2nd rounder and a pool of other teams compliance buyouts, he should be able to bring in some new pieces. He also needs to get Kevin Lowe a fucking muzzle.

  17. regwald says:

    pboy:
    My shoulder hurts just watching these guys.

    MacT is saying all of the right things. I hope he has autonomy to build the team that he’s talking about but I don’t want to see any of the Fab 5 get moved. Between Hemsky, Gagner, the 2nd rounder and a pool of other teams compliance buyouts, he should be able to bring in some new pieces. He also needs to get Kevin Lowe a fucking muzzle.

    All he needs is some fancy LED lighting added to KLowes office and he will be mesmerized by the brilliance of this 6 cup rings and never leave his office again.

  18. regwald says:

    I think MacT just benched Gagner from the luxury box. He’s as a good as traded now !

  19. hockeyguy10 says:

    Woodguy,

    I follow Brian Lawton on twitter. He made a comment today about Suter getting no mention for the Norris after stepping out of the shadow of Weber. I commented to him that advanced stats would have told him Weber needed Suter more then Suter needed Weber. He asked what stats I was talking about,as he owned a tech company and was interested.I told him to go to behindthenet and hockeyprospectus.An hour later he posted the link to the story.

  20. hunter1909 says:

    regwald,

    Hire Henri Richard already.

  21. Lowetide says:

    man. With the exception of the 1line, Yak city, Horcoff and the recently recalled kids these other forwards are lost in the supermarket.

  22. RickDeckard says:

    regwald,

    The buyout can be used in 2013 or 2014,

  23. Lowetide says:

    hunter1909:
    regwald,

    Hire Henri Richard already.

    Shut it down. This is the one.

  24. regwald says:

    RickDeckard,

    My point is I don’t see a candidate for this summer as they Oilers could trade for a bad contract and a draft pick and buy out someone else’s garbage instead of saving $2.25M on Smyth.

  25. Zack says:

    Curious Lowetide, why no mention of Darnell Nurse? I think he’s another quality young prospect that would be great to have in the system. I would be happy with Lindholm, Nichuskin or Mantha based of the stats though.

  26. VanOil says:

    2nd period dreams for a brighter future during a boring loss to Minnie;

    Florida is unlikely to be able to keep both Stephen Weiss (UFA) and Shawn Matthias (RFA). Offer a 2nd round pick for Mattias rights. If they do not take it, sign Weiss.

    Trade Toni Rajala, a small talented winger unlikely to get a look with Oilers, to NYI for either Nino Niederreiter, a big strong skilled left winger that pushes Paajarvi for the second line spot, or Brock Nelson a big strong Center who pushes Lander for the third line center.

    Trade Hemsky and one of Germat or Marincin to NYR for Ryan McDonagh. Slats owes us one. Throw in Whitney or Jones rights if it helps.

    Sign old and reliable defenceman that buys Kelfbom time in the AHL

    Sign reliable backup goalie to push Dubbie.

    Draft the most talented center available, send them to the AHL.

    Do not sign any of our UFAs.

    Sign all of our RFAs

    I realize this leaves us overloaded with big strong centers. Move one too wing so we dress 5 in the NHL. If one of them beats Gagner out for the second line spot, trade Gagner at the deadline for whatever whole needs filled then. If Gagner plays like he does to night just give him a good spanking.

    Stop watching Minne and Phoenix games. It makes my eyes bleed. (this one is more of a note to self)

  27. FastOil says:

    hockeyguy10: benched

    Too bad there’s no finders fee, you deserve one

  28. Wes Mantooth-11 says:

    With the third overall pick in the 2013 NHL entry draft the Edmonton Oilers are so happy to select from the Edmonton Oil Kings Curtis Lazar.

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha because its true!!!!

    Barkov Pleaseeeeeeeedeeee!!!!!!!

  29. OilLeak says:

    Lowetide: It kills me to say it, but it has to be Smyth.

    His contract would still count against the cap would it not? 35 +

  30. Woodguy says:

    hockeyguy10,

    It depends on which year you look at.

    Sometime it looked like Weber was better, other years Suter.

    Often they were dominate together and better together than with anyone else.

    Makes sense when two very good D play together their numbers apart look worse.

  31. Lowetide says:

    Zack:
    Curious Lowetide, why no mention of Darnell Nurse? I think he’s another quality young prospect that would be great to have in the system. I would be happy with Lindholm, Nichuskin or Mantha based of the stats though.

    Nurse lacks enough offense imo to be considered top 10. Doesn`t mean he won`t go top 10, just that I don`t think he`s worth a top 10 selection.

    4-1 now.

  32. Ribs says:

    I admire MacTavish’s gusto but his talk of attracting players to the team that they couldn’t before concerns me. Who does he hope to attract this summer? Iginla? Horton? What’s left for forwards that fill the size category and have proven records of consistent play?

    Defence UFA’s aren’t all that special either by the looks of things.

    MacT’s got some work to do. I hope he knows what he’s getting himself into.

  33. Southern Oil says:

    Ribs:
    I admire MacTavish’s gusto but his talk of attracting players to the team that they couldn’t before concerns me. Who does he hope to attract this summer? Iginla? Horton? What’s left for forwards that fill the size category and have proven records of consistent play?

    Defence UFA’s aren’t all that special either by the looks of things.

    MacT’s got some work to do. I hope he knows what he’s getting himself into.

    He does have work to do. One of the things though that I took solace in with the recent events:
    - MacT is at least intelligent and a good interview
    – the management team are running out of chairs. If the music stops in another year or so – who else is there to blame?

  34. hockeyguy10 says:

    Woodguy,

    I always liked Suter better. So that’s what the stat’s told me. :-)

  35. regwald says:

    Nobody can tank like the Oilers when they set their minds to it. Top 5 pick on the way.

  36. FastOil says:

    regwald:
    I think MacT just benched Gagner from the luxury box. He’s as a good as traded now !

    In tribute to Woodguy – Because Oilers

    It is a poorly taken decision to bench Gagner, or Hemsky, or any bubble player. It’s a stupid move. If they as an organization do not know yet (everyone is the same as before, nobody is new here, including Howson) if they like them or not, %$^*()&*(_

    Easy, sweet, beautiful minutes, points rising, getting it done down the stretch, team guy. Why is it so hard for them to stop rubbing player’s noses in things and taking verbal and ice time payback when they don’t like a valuable player? It is hurting the team. Sit on it, maximize your position and move on. Grow up.

    Now is not the time to do anything but lose and maximize the top players that are on the bubble. MBA time MacT.

  37. Ducey says:

    Time to put in Bulin. DD is going to commit suicide soon.

    I mean how are the Oilers going to compete without Petrell?

  38. bookje says:

    The Oilers are professionals. They understand the value of the draft and will do what needs to be done. This is as spectacular of a finish I have seen from them in three years. In past years, their pride crept in and sometimes they tried. Last year it cost them 30th.

  39. VanOil says:

    regwald:
    Nobody can tank like the Oilers when they set their minds to it. Top 5 pick on the way.

    Agreed, but you must admire Nashville’s effort. They are swan diving in spectacular fashion. Tampa and Carolina are going to be tough to be worse than but we do have past form. The bottom there are already booking trips to Vegas.

  40. Ducey says:

    Looks like Smid might have a broken arm

  41. rich says:

    Oilers score – so what.

  42. geowal says:

    I wouldn’t expect much given the game situation, but I’ve never seen a group look so sad after scoring a goal. Totally deflated.

  43. Ducey says:

    Crap. We don’t need a comeback.

    Still its nice when your rookie dekes out Suter

  44. VanOil says:

    I would love if this team went all in to get Yakupov the rookie scoring title and the Calder. He will replay the love.

  45. BlueNoteNorth says:

    The Gagner pump n dump plan didn’t go too well tonight.

  46. Ducey says:

    Good effort by the boys with the empty net

  47. OilLeak says:

    BlueNoteNorth:
    The Gagnerpump n dump plan didn’t go too well tonight.

    Gagner was awful tonight, didn’t contribute much with Yak and Paajarvi either.

  48. MrSmitty says:

    Carolina, Nashville and Tampa need to win some games for us.

  49. Ribs says:

    Tom Gilbert with a very sneaky team best +3 on the night.

  50. Kris11 says:

    If Yakupov says something crazy in the post game or before midnight tonight, that’s a Yak-trick.

  51. Ducey says:

    So the boxscore says the Oilers only got 6 shots in the third. Thats hard to believe.

  52. RickDeckard says:

    VanOil,

    Considering what has happened to Myers, Mason, Skinner and Landeskog I’d be OK if he sat that one out.

  53. Lowetide says:

    1m

    “Whether we’re in the playoffs or not, we have to start winning some games and changing the mood in here.” – Taylor Hall

  54. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Great game. With the Philly win tonight we snuck into 7th. lose at least 5 of the last 6 and we’ve probably got a shot to sneak into the top 5 picks.

    fill the tank!

    oh… and Yak City… damn. Watching him is like having a second, different Taylor Hall. Amazing fun.

    Still can’t believe Gregor suggested trading him for Clarkson… nutty things people will do for “size!”

  55. VanOil says:

    RickDeckard,

    Good point I forgot about the Calder curse.

  56. PunjabiOil says:

    Taylor Hall looks fed up.

    They can’t be in this same position next year, or they will get Rick Nash’ed.

    They just can’t.

  57. VanOil says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Yakupovs sublime skill should mean he is never traded. But Oilers.

    Hopefully the Heart he is showing makes those who question his size come to {a better understanding}. (many edits to get the swear words out)

  58. PunjabiOil says:

    A frustrated Taylor Hall after the game: “We let Tamby down.” Says their play after trade deadline was “probably a big reason” for firing.

  59. Ribs says:

    The lines can sure look like crap without Hemsky in there. Just sayin’.

  60. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    VanOil:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Yakupovs sublime skill should mean he is never traded. But Oilers.

    Hopefully the Heart he is showing makes those who question his size come to {a better understanding}. (many edits to get the swear words out)

    Yak’s not huge, but he’s the classic definition of a guy that “plays huge” and he’s still got a lot of growing to do.

    anyone trading him for “size!” issues is going to hate watching him score and hit the hell out of them down the road.

  61. HBomb says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Yak’s not huge, but he’s the classic definition of a guy that “plays huge” and he’s still got a lot of growing to do.

    anyone trading him for “size!” issues is going to hate watching him score and hit the hell out of them down the road.

    For the love of all things orange and blue, do NOT trade Yakupov.

    People often look at me as if I have a second head when I say it, but I’d sooner trade Eberle than deal Yakupov. Seriously.

  62. stevezie says:

    Ribs:
    The lines can sure look like crap without Hemsky in there. Just sayin’.

    They looked screwed up if anyone of their top 7 go down. Fine team when at 100%, but Tambo never learned how to make a plan B, and that’s why he’s unemployed right now.

    Somehow this team went the season without losing a top 4 defender. Can you imagine if we had a six game stretch where Whitney, Potter and Fistric were all playing?

    Everybody’s got a plan until they get hit.

  63. LMHF#1 says:

    Yakupov the best of the group within two years? It is distinctly possible.

    Hey, that Brodziak guy sure can play. Wonder if he’d ever consider being an Oiler? No way he’s good enough though….

  64. Zelepukin says:

    LMHF#1: Yakupov the best of the group within two years? It is distinctly possible.

    I think he’ll definitely be the first to score 40+, lets just hope its for the Oilers.

  65. russ99 says:

    At this point I’m thinking that MacT pretty much has to buy out Horcoff and Smyth, not only for the cap savings but also to change the culture in the room.

    If there are no takers for Belanger and Eager in the offseason, they can always be released, as we’re not talking big dollars and they’re on the books for only one year.

  66. leadfarmer says:

    At least Nashville has injury issues that decimated their already thin forward corps. Oilers, no excuse.. Man, there are some truly terrible teams in the NHL this year that this team is still outside the top 5. Not only are we losing, we are not even competitiive in the games we are losing.

  67. leadfarmer says:

    I wonder if Yak is still happy to not be drafted by Columbus.

  68. ashley says:

    TheOtherJohn,

    Admittedly, I didn’t do a search, and that is more than I had recalled.

    However, a fair number of those 1OV players turned out marginal by pedigree, or had attitude/chemistry issues so I can see why they were traded.

    I don’t think any of our 1OV picks will be marginal, and there certainly isn’t any attitude/chemistry problem. So I would never trade any one of them. If we had picked Ryan Murray on the other hand…..

    I don’t know why RNH doesn’t get more love though. It’s not just that we need a center and he is a pretty good one. He is subtle, but very clever out there. He is astute defensively, and anticipation/hockey sense beyond his years. His stats are having an off year, but that will come. I think he may end up the best of the three, but Yak is going to make him earn that.

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