ERIC BELANGER RE 12-13: STOLEN CAR

Eric Belanger signed a contract with the Edmonton Oilers in the summer of 2011, and mentioned the length of the deal as being key. Two years later, it must feel like a prison term.

 

Eric Belanger 10-11 (PHX) 

  • 5×5 points per 60: 1.85 (6th among regular forwards)
  • 5×4 points per 60: 2.05 (8th among regular forwards)
  • Qual Comp: 4th toughest faced among regular forwards
  • Qual Team: 5th best available teammates among regular forwards
  • Corsi Rel: 6.4 (4th best among regular forwards)
  • Zone Start: 46.6% (8th easiest among regular forwards)
  • Zone Finish: 49.4% (4th best among regular forwards)
  • Shots on goal/percentage: 127/10.2% (5th best among F’s >100 shots)
  • Boxcars: 82, 17-27-40
  • Plus Minus: +11 on a team that was +24

Eric Belanger 11-12

  • 5×5 points per 60: 0.64 (13th among regular forwards)
  • 5×4 points per 60: 4.32 (5th among regular forwards)
  • Qual Comp: 10th toughest faced among regular forwards
  • Qual Team: 7th best available teammates among regular forwards
  • Corsi Rel: -4.1 (10th best among regular forwards)
  • Zone Start: 43.2% (toughest among regular forwards)
  • Zone Finish: 48.9% (8th best among regular forwards)
  • Shots on goal/percentage: 118/3.4% (9th best among F’s >100 shots)
  • Boxcars: 78, 4-12-16
  • Plus Minus: -13 on a team that was -26

Eric Belanger 12-13

  • 5×5 points per 60: 0.66 (13th among regular forwards)
  • 5×4 points per 60: nil
  • Qual Comp: 10th toughest faced among regular forwards
  • Qual Team: 12th best available teammates among regular forwards
  • Corsi Rel: -19.9 (15th and last  among regular forwards) (-26.13 Corsi ON, 392nd out of 395 NHL regulars)
  • Zone Start: 33.3% (toughest among regular forwards)
  • Zone Finish: 45.5% (13th best among regular forwards)
  • Shots on goal/percentage: 0 goals on 31 shots
  • Boxcars: 26, 0-3-3
  • Plus Minus: -1 on a team that was -15
  1. What do these numbers tell us? His CorsiOn ranks among the worst in the NHL. He had a severe zone start, but there’s nothing in the numbers to suggest he’d earned an offensive role,  PP time or a push with the skilled guys. MacT said at the end of the year “We had a lot of guys that the best they were going to be in any given game was a non-factor” and for me Belanger’s at the very end of the roster.
  2. Did Krueger use him less than Renney? At even strength, Renney used him (11:11) about the same as Krueger (10:47) although Ralph used him more often in the defensive zone (makes some sense considering Gagner’s struggles and Horcoff’s injuries). On the PK, Renney (2:28) relied on him less than Krueger (3:08) and Renney was the only one of the two coaches to use Belanger on the PP (1:04 to 0:11).
  3. You thought he would recover. Sure did, but he needs a new start now. I think they’ll buy him out and he’ll get an invite.
  4. His reputation is better than that. His repuation WAS better than that.
  5. Is he worth buying out? They could send him to the minors, but why bother? Oilers options for buyout are Horcoff (they can’t buy him out because they need him), Hemsky (no way) and Ryan Smyth (ditto).
  6. Which of those do you think MacT will make it a priority to move? Probably Hemsky, if they’re looking to add a big winger to the top 6, their choices are deal Gagner or Hemsky imo.
  7. Back to Belanger. Why didn’t it work? Really good players–guys like Ryan Smyth–can still hit the fastball at 34 (Smyth scored 23 goals) and have a longer, slower coda than normal men. Horcoff isn’t a Smyth level (he was 34 this year and scored 7 goals in half a season) and will probably have one or two more years of reasonable boxcars. Belanger’s NHL bell curve began at 22, Horcoff’s at 21 and Smyth’s at 19. What we’re seeing now is the other end of the curve. No surprise that Belanger exits first.
  8. Is there anything left to say? Not really. A bad bet made by a bad team on a bad day.
  9. Bad day? They made bets on Cam Barker, Ben Eager and Darcy Hordichuk, same day.
  10. How many bad bets do good teams make in a year? I don’t know, maybe one or two. The difference of course is that good organizations address mistakes quickly and then move on. The Oilers haven’t done that in the past.
  11. What do you mean? I mean, the Kevin Lowe management plan is to set the team up in the summer and then wait until at least Christmas before changing anything major.
  12. The Oilers make lots of in-season adjustments. The hell they do, and when they make a mid-season trade it’s Billy Guerin for Anson Carter. No sir. Lock and load in the summer and ride that nag till it drops or the trade deadline.
  13. What will happen with Belanger? Please believe me when I say that I don’t give a rat’s ass.
  14. Why this song? It’s probably the saddest song in the Boss library, an absolutely hopeless hero who is caught in a loveless marriage with no way out and lacking the energy to find a better day. His only action is to steal a car, hoping to get caught each night as he drives around town.
  15. That’s pretty dark. Midnight.

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39 Responses to "ERIC BELANGER RE 12-13: STOLEN CAR"

  1. Lowetide says:

    If Ottawa 67s centre Sean Monahan or six-foot-seven London Knights defenceman Nikita Zadorov is there at No. 7, the Oilers are taking them.

    That’s from Jim Matheson
    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/edmonton-oilers/Edmonton+Oilers/8378828/story.html?cid=dlvr.it-twitter-ej_oilers

  2. Gerta Rauss says:

    per Oilers twitter:

    #Oilers prospects and @EdmOilKings Travis Ewanyk, Martin Gernat and David Musil have signed amateur tryout contracts with @OKC_Barons

  3. Lowetide says:

    That’s very cool, Gernat going down there and getting a taste before going home. Still think he’s a flight risk. :-)

  4. LMHF#1 says:

    Lowetide:
    If Ottawa 67s centre Sean Monahan or six-foot-seven London Knights defenceman Nikita Zadorov is there at No. 7, the Oilers are taking them.

    That’s from Jim Matheson
    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/edmonton-oilers/Edmonton+Oilers/8378828/story.html?cid=dlvr.it-twitter-ej_oilers

    Has there ever been a defenceman who produced so little in the OHL but was an impact NHLer?

  5. Gerta Rauss says:

    All 3 of them have interesting back stories. I want to see if Musil can skate (and compete) at the pro level, and Ewanyk could eat Pitlick’s lunch if he’s not careful. I hope you’re kidding about the flight risk.

  6. RickDeckard says:

    Lowetide,

    If Zadorov goes top ten that GM needs to be fired.

    LMHF#1,

    He’s this year’s Dylan McIlrath.

  7. Gerta Rauss says:

    I’m not sure what to say about Belanger that wasn’t covered above. I’d love to see him swapped for Vern Fiddler but if other GMs feel he’s done as an NHL player, he will be bought out.

    Maybe we can push him out in a deal that gives a team some cap relief and we get player(s) and salary coming our way.

    Either way, he has to go-I agree, when MacT made that statement about the bottom 6, he was referring to Belanger.

  8. Lowetide says:

    Rajala scores. Lordy 1-0 OKC

  9. Lowetide says:

    Marincin and Stretch with the assists.

  10. Gerta Rauss says:

    That sound you just heard was my playoff pool bottoming out. I loaded up on Bruins. Ouch.

  11. Lowetide says:

    Lander (Hartikainen, Marincin)

  12. RickDeckard says:

    Lowetide,

    I always think Stretch is a nickname for someone, usually Marincin.

    As for Marincin, I did some counting and he took 7 obstruction penalties in the first 23 games he played during the lockout. Since the lockout has ended he has taken 8 obstruction penalties in 53 games (including playoffs up to game 2 of this series). His shots per game has increased from 1.04 to 1.68. His points per game has increased from .391 to .453. No longer getting burned by NHLers or getting used to playing against men?

  13. RickDeckard says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    I had Ducks, Blues and Isles.

  14. Lowetide says:

    RickDeckard:
    Lowetide,

    I always think Stretch is a nickname for someone, usually Marincin.

    As for Marincin, I did some counting and he took 7 obstruction penalties in the first 23 games he played during the lockout. Since the lockout has ended he has taken 8 obstruction penalties in 53 games (including playoffs up to game 2 of this series). His shots per game has increased by .64 to 1.68. His points per game has increased from .391 to .453. No longer getting burned by NHLers or getting used to playing against men?

    That’s the question. Best to leave him in OKC one more year and give him the best chance to succeed.

  15. BlacqueJacque says:

    RickDeckard,

    Stretch = Gernat, no?

  16. Lowetide says:

    No. Stretch is a player from the ECHL. Unless you’re joking, then yes stretch would be an excellent nicknme for Gernat.

  17. rich says:

    Lowetide: That’s the question. Best to leave him in OKC one more year and give him the best chance to succeed.

    What he said.

  18. BlacqueJacque says:

    Lowetide,

    Oh.

    I really thought you nicknamed him Stretch. I’ve been reading it like that for months, now.

    Dibs on credit for the nickname, in that case. I wanna be the man who goes down in history calling Gernat “Stretch”. You know, my own wikipedia page, a couple of biographies, maybe even a movie about me.

  19. Lowetide says:

    “Is that the man they call Stretch?”
    “No, dear. That’s the man who called the man they call Stretch, Stretch.”
    “What?”
    “You know, he named him.”
    “Is it his Dad? His Dad is there and he named him Stretch?”
    “NO! He, uh never mind.”

  20. sliderule says:

    Horvat with two goals and the winner with one scone left in third.

    By my eyes and the stats he has put up in playoffs if Monahan isn’t there the oil have to take him.

  21. Gerta Rauss says:

    omg…my pool and the bruins are still alive..!!!

  22. RickDeckard says:

    Gotta love the CBC crying over the Canucks (about the boarding call/non-call) and then crying over there not being a penalty for throwing stuff on the ice. Leafs about to choke huge, can’t wait for their fans to shut up.

  23. SoxandOil says:

    Hey LT,

    Sorry I’m bored at work, and was just catching up on blogs and whatnot. Came across Cullen’s Off Season Game plans at tsn.ca , I found Colorados quite interesting. Where Edmonton seems to be building from the wings in, Colorado is going Centre out. Defence seems similar although Colorado has better depth at the NHL level Edmonton has more D prospects in the system. Edmonton also seems to be a little better off in goaltending depth but thats not saying much.

    With Edmonton and Colorado going to separate divisions in the fall I wonder if they might be good partners for a mutually benefical trade. If MacT wants to make a splash Statsny could be a target (I wonder if Statsny for Hemsky straight up would be enough) or a interesting prospect could be Michael Sgarbossa and the price tag could be a d prospect and a goalie something like Musil and Bunz.

    Sorry for getting sidetracked, love the OKC updates. Also love that Eager and Hordi were scratched tonight.

  24. Lowetide says:

    SoxandOil: Ryan O’Reilly would be a perfect fit.

  25. Lowetide says:

    Arcobello (Hotham) 3-0 OKC.

  26. Kris11 says:

    Belanger = Vanilla Useless.

    He should have been vanilla useful, as we thought. But sometimes a used car doesn’t work out, even when it look okay as you kicked the tires.

  27. Kris11 says:

    I hope Matheson is as ignorant about the Oilers’ plans as he is about, uh…, everything else.

    :)

  28. SoxandOil says:

    Agree but he can’t be traded until Feb right or whenever Colorado matched the offer sheet. Interesting thing there… Colorado matched on Feb 28th. Depending on when the trade deadline is he won’t be tradeable until after he 13/14 season and he is a RFA again.

  29. godot10 says:

    Expect a lot of disinformation about the Oilers intentions. Monahan or Zadorov could really mean Lindholm or Nurse, OR really mean Monahan or Zadorov.

    Smoke and fog is what the Oilers want to create about their intentions.

  30. Lowetide says:

    They didn’t mention Lindholm at all (Stu MacGregor) while making the ‘entry draft’ rounds last week. I think it’s a tell. I also think they believe Monahan goes to Calgary, but that’s the guy they really want.

  31. Derek says:

    That Toronto-Boston game is the most entertaining game I’ve watched since Boston eliminated Vancouver in the SCF.

    The Bruins are the knight in shining armor of the NHL.

  32. RickDeckard says:

    SoxandOil,

    Colorado has to qualify ROR at $6.5M so he’s in a pretty good spot.

  33. SoxandOil says:

    RickDeckard,

    You’re right. Either he jumps at the qualifying offer or he walks as a UFA.
    I wonder what a team would trade for the right to qualify him.

  34. Kitchener says:

    Just got home from doing “Leafs Nation” research. Findings:

    - It pales in comparison with Edmonton hockey fever.
    - Even a 3rd week in January game in Edmonton with the Wild in town has more energy than a Leaf Game 7 in Southern Ontario.
    - Even when the Leafs were up 4-1 in the 3rd, this place was barely into it by Alberta standards.
    - Even The Red Mile (worse than Woolerton SK, I realize; hhktput!) has about 50 times more emotional energy than Leaf Nation.
    - Even the hottest bar in Ontarioville on Game 7 doesn’t come close a standard game at Kelly’s on Jasper (R.I.P., so I hear…)

    Regardless of what the CBC or some paper reports, Leaf Nation is a dull blade.

    Oilers fans haven’t had a lot of wins to cheer about in recent years, but from one Oil fan to several others, never forget this simple truth: it is better to be an Oil fan at the worst of times than a Leafs fan at the best of times.

    Don’t get me started about Vancouver.

    Cross your fingers the Barons and Marlies make it through to the next round. The Barons got creamed last season, but hopefully times have changed.

  35. RickDeckard says:

    Kitchener,

    Here’s some Youtube of Leafs Nation showing their “pride”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIBiQPyYiBo
    Goals at 2:20 and 4:47

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veuxf_kqI1Q
    Goal at 2:50

  36. Kitchener says:

    RickDeckard,

    Ha! The result of those camera flashes from the front of the crowd will be front-page material for a year. Good find.

    The Leafs team have done several hockey things well and will likely keep improving, but the “TO hockey Mecca” stuff is the same B.S. as “call in the National Guard” when it snows 4cm in Toronto.

  37. Maggie the Monkey says:

    This song could also have worked for this RE breakdown:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2eWDP9Bj4Y

    “Between our dreams and actions there’s this world” gets stuck in my head sometimes.

    While the song is topical to the film and its soundtrack, the lyrics transcend the particulars of the story. An overbearing sense of being stuck with our past and the ties of responsibility that bind us to it relate to Belanger’s situation. I suppose it could work just as well for Eager, Petrell, Peckham, and a few others, too.

  38. RickDeckard says:

    Maybe the Leafs run Gardiner out of town? Nick Schultz + EDM 2013 second round pick

  39. bones says:

    Good song choice.

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