OKLAHOMA, OKLAHOMA, OKLAHOMA, OK!

In the fall of 2000, Kevin Lowe was a new GM, Craig MacTavish a new coach and Claude Julien was the new coach of the minor league club in Hamilton.  The Bulldogs had a few new hires and some guys who were considered prospects.

That club won only 28 games, but the prospects who turned out (Shawn Horcoff, Jason Chimera, Fernando Pisani) enjoyed solid careers and some of those guys helped the Oilers on their Stanley run. A quick look at the Bulldogs 2000-2004 gives us a nice group of talented NHLers:

  • 2000-01: Daniel Cleary-58 games in Hamilton (22-52-74) in 99-00 and then an NHL career that continues to this day (869 games)
  • 2000-01: Dan Lacouture-70 games in Hamilton (23-17-40) in 99-00 and then an NHL career (337 games)
  • 2000-01: Shawn Horcoff 24 games in Hamilton (10-18-28) in 00-01 and then an NHL career that continues to this day (796 games)
  • 2000-01: Scott Ferguson 42 games in Hamilton (3-18-21) in 00-01 and then an NHL career (218 games)
  • 2002-03: Jason Chimera 77 games in Hamilton (26-51-77) in 01-02 and then an NHL career that continues to this day (71o games)
  • 2002-03: Fernando Pisani 41 games in Hamilton (17-15-32) in 02-03 and then an NHL career (462 games)
  • 2002-03: Alexei Semenov 37 games in Hamilton (4-3-7) in 02-03 and then an NHL career (211 games)
  • 2003-04: Marc Andre Bergeron 66 games in Hamilton (8-31-39) in 02-03 and then an NHL career that continues to this day (490 games)
  • 2003-04: Ty Conklin 38 games in Hamilton (9.14 2.55) in 02-03 and then an NHL career (215 games)
  • 2003-04: Jarret Stoll 76 games (21-33-54) in 02-03 and then an NHL career that continues to this day (641 games)

I’ve listed them by the season they became NHL players, and stopped at the end of the 02-03 minor league season (Edmonton moved away from the Bulldogs for 03-04 when the Toronto Roadrunners came into being). In that 4 season span, Edmonton graduated 10 NHL players of 200 games or more, and 6 of those guys played 450+ games in the big leagues.

After that the Oilers had a team in Edmonton for the lockout and then the EIG loaned out their players and nothing rhymed for a long time. Beginning in 2010-11, Todd Nelson joined the organization and the Oklahoma City Barons were the new mint. Among the players who have played there and then graduated to the NHL in three seasons are Jeff Petry, Linus Omark and Teemu Hartikainen. You could stretch it and include Magnus Paajarvi, Anton Lander and Justin Schultz, but that isn’t in keeping with the spirit of the list above.

In 10-11, the Oilers top prospects in OKC were Petry, Omark, Ryan O’Marra, Alex Plante. The following season it was Mark Arcobello, Phil Cornet, Teemu Hartikainen, Colten Teubert, Tyler Pitlick. This past season’s top Barons prospect list looks a little stronger–Arcobello, Hartikainen, Toni Rajala, Martin Marincin, Taylor Fedun–but it remains to be seen if they’ll have any NHL impact.

The Barons under Todd Nelson appear to be heading in a very good direction–not as strong as Hamilton’s at the turn of the century, but there are some good signs. This current playoff run is another example. (Barons photo courtesy Rob Ferguson. All rights reserved).

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36 Responses to "OKLAHOMA, OKLAHOMA, OKLAHOMA, OK!"

  1. Ca$h-Money! says:

    Go Barons!

    I’ve cancelled my TV effective the end of this week. Save myself a few hundred bucks over the summer as I hammer through the fine programming available on US netflix. Wouldn’t mind finding a way to stream these games directly to my TV if anyone has any ideas.

    Also, on a side note, it will be pretty cool if Chicago wins tonight. Bos/Pit LA/Chi in the final four: the last four stanley cup winners. Nice to see that kind of consistency, hopefully someday the Oilers will be in that kind of position.

  2. russ99 says:

    Ca$h-Money!,

    That would be awesome. Two grindy clutch-grab style teams and two primarly dynamic offensive teams. We’ll see what direction the copycat league goes after this cup is awarded.

    Needless to say, I’m pulling for a Chicago – Pittsburgh final.

    LT: I can’t look at that Pete Townshend album cover without thinking about this. Great album though…

    I’m hoping the Oilers invest a little more in OKC next year, since most of the vets have expiring contracts, and the new crop coming in from the CHL will need some veteran help.

  3. melancholyculkin says:

    The consensus seems to be that the Oilers drafting under Prendergast was weak, but that’s a strong group of players who emerged. How much credit goes to Prendergast, and how much to men like Julien and others involved with the Bulldogs?

    Evaluating a scouting staff is very much a fools errand.

  4. TheOtherJohn says:

    Not really sure that Omark and Hartikanen represent players that have graduated to the NHL.

    I am looking forward to see which of Stu MacGregor’s, the artist formerly known as the Magnificent Bastard”, picks have meaningful NHL careers. I expect it will be a much smaller number than Oiler fans think but time will tell.

    Arcobello and Fedun are Petry’s age so if they are graduating to the show they better hurry

    At this point in time I would seriously look at stealing the LAK head of amateur scouting because he’s getting the job done – at the NHL level

  5. Woodguy says:

    russ99:
    Ca$h-Money!,

    That would be awesome. Two grindy clutch-grab style teams and two primarly dynamic offensive teams. We’ll see what direction the copycat league goes after this cup is awarded.

    Needless to say, I’m pulling for a Chicago – Pittsburgh final.

    LT: I can’t look at that Pete Townshend album cover without thinking about this. Great album though…

    I’m hoping the Oilers invest a little more in OKC next year, since most of the vets have expiring contracts, and the new crop coming in from the CHL will need some veteran help.

    I’m hoping for a CHI-PIT final so that we can stop hearing about “big, heavy teams with a top 5 goalie wins cups” and we can change to “fast, big teams with average goal tending wins cups.”

    Fits the Oilers mould better.

    Chicago Model 4EVA!

  6. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Here’s an idea for a post, or a radio topic: Stockton and/or the Umbrella.

    I’d be interested to hear about both Stockton in its own right (i.e., the players, coaches, league, playoff success, etc.) and how it fits within the overall scheme of the Oilers (how integrated its ownership, management, development, etc is; how essential is having an ECHL team to the overall success of NHL teams in today’s world).

    I’d also be interested in hearing about the umbrella business model (i.e., from the Oilers down to OKC, Stockton and Oil Kings… and whoever this Capitals baseball team is that the Oil have on their website) in terms of both developing sports talent up the chain of command and as a business enterprise (something like what is the cost/benefit of having so many teams working in coordination; does Stockton, for example, make or lose money? how much does it matter if they achieve other goals, ie., develop Roy and Bunz?).

  7. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    melancholyculkin:
    The consensus seems to be that the Oilers drafting under Prendergast was weak, but that’s a strong group of players who emerged. How much credit goes to Prendergast, and how much to men like Julien and others involved with the Bulldogs?

    Evaluating a scouting staff is very much a fools errand.

    Have you been reading LT’s KP vs MBS series?

    http://lowetide.ca/blog/2013/05/mbs-vs-kp-round-two.html

    it’s an interesting review of the facts. I think LT is pretty fair and he seems pretty upfront that the Niinimaki pick overshadows a lot of good KP did elsewhere.

  8. Rondo says:

    OT

    LT,

    I was listening to the interview with Kyle Woodlief by Bob Stauffer yesterday. He asked Kyle about the top 6 players , he left out Elias Lindholm which is odd because the Oilers don’t talk about him either.

    Kinda begs the question.

    Sounds like he will be the top player left at 7.

  9. regwald says:

    Woodguy,

    My sentiments as well. Go Hawks and Pens !

  10. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Woodguy: I’m hoping for a CHI-PIT final so that we can stop hearing about “big, heavy teams with a top 5 goalie wins cups” and we can change to “fast, big teams with average goal tending wins cups.”

    Fits the Oilers mould better.

    Chicago Model 4EVA!

    Not to mention it would be infinitely more fun to watch.

    I’m EST so it’s later… but with all the Oiler games this year I haven’t struggled to stay awake for late games… yet… these LAK games have been deadly boring to watch.

  11. Henry says:

    Could be that the guy tracking the best is Nelson. He seems to be able to make soup out of whatever is in the fridge.

  12. ashley says:

    Woodguy,

    I, too, would love to see an end to the size fixation.

    None of those final 5 rosters including DET look any different size-wise vs the Oilers current roster.

    On the other hand, all of those rosters look a LOT different skill-wise vs the Oilers current roster.

    The whole size thing has got to be one the silliest things we have ever debated on this blog.

    I’m holding out hope that our management team is smarter than the average MSM guy who keeps lobbying for trading skill for a coke machine.

    I thought this would be Gagner’s fate, but it seems MacT sees value in Gagner’s skill despite being one inch shy of the magical 6’0″ threshold.

  13. Smarmy says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Here’s an idea for a post, or a radio topic: Stockton and/or the Umbrella.

    I’d be interested to hear about both Stockton in its own right (i.e., the players, coaches, league, playoff success, etc.) and how it fits within the overall scheme of the Oilers (how integrated its ownership, management, development, etc is; how essential is having an ECHL team to the overall success of NHL teams in today’s world).

    I’d also be interested in hearing about the umbrella business model (i.e., from the Oilers down to OKC, Stockton and Oil Kings… and whoever this Capitals baseball team is that the Oil have on their website) in terms of both developing sports talent up the chain of command and as a business enterprise (something like what is the cost/benefit of having so many teams working in coordination; does Stockton, for example, make or lose money? how much does it matter if they achieve other goals, ie., develop Roy and Bunz?).

    I would bet that if this stupid 50 contracts thing didn’t exist the ECHL would be a more viable tool for player development.

    As it stands right now it pretty much only seems to serve goalies and if as a player you get put there it usually spells the end of your career. (Excluding what the Oilers did with it this year having Rajala, Cornet and Davidson get some reps there.

    To lend to a baseball analogy I’d like to see Junior/NCAA serve as the low A of the minor leagues with the ECHL being high A/AA and the AHL being the AAA.

  14. TheOtherJohn says:

    No one is advocating coke machines. No one. Ok, maybe Spec

    Kopitar, Carter, Joe Thornton, Marleau, Backes, Chris Stewart, Toews,Hossa, Sharp, Saad Kunitz, Iginla, Morrow, Malkin……… not small men.

    All larger than all but Hall in our top 6

  15. rickithebear says:

    you need 2 players a year from draft year to age decline (31) to cycle thru a roster.
    you hope to retain a strong top 6 for 7-10 years.
    you need your first picks to hit.
    to have players slot in the 3-6 on cheaper contracts.

    you need 1 player from the last 6 rounds to role into the bottom 6
    ages 24-28 on cheap contracts (Less than 1M)
    your 6-9 Fwds are often the diffrence in cup runs.
    Ie. Pisani, Bickell, Penner, Moen, Talbot, Brouwer,
    Cornet (23)
    Pitlick (22)
    Martindale (22)
    Kessy(20)
    McCarron (21)
    Ewanyk (20)
    Moroz (19)
    Any of these?

  16. knighttown says:

    Interesting conversation in the last thread and LT getting some grief for his effervescent praise of MBS. I think the reason many of us like Stu’s performance isn’t that he’s better and finding good players, it’s that he’s safer. Stu MacGregor picks the players we would pick and that feels better. Even a guy like Speeds, probably our best draft guy, has a post up saying that picking Pitlick in the second round and having him bust is much better than picking Moroz in the second round and having him bust. But really, is it any better?

    The job of the scouting department and the GM is to find the best players available at the draft. Scouting services lists are but one of the vast array of tools at a GM’s disposal to suss out which guy is the best but for Christ sakes, it’s far from infallible.

    So Stu’s strategy is to be pretty conservative in the early rounds. He’s grabbed sliders like Paajarvi and generally drafted guys where they are slotted like Pitlick, Lander, Eberle and Hamilton. We liked those picks because they were the picks we wanted and they were consensus and it always feels good to do what the crowd does.

    The previous regime departed from the crowd more often and nothing is going to get you despised more than thinking you are smarter than everyone else. Do pick Jesse Niinimaki at #14 when he’s not in the Top 100. Don’t pass on Parise.

    The reality is, these guys are paid well to be smarter than everyone else. If they aren’t then why not send a GM up to the podium with Bob McKenzie’s consensus list or the Redline report. We can’t fall into the trap of evaluating a head scouts performance based on how closely he holds to conventional wisdom. He should go off the board when he thinks the player off the board is better than the one on the board and deal with the consequences when he’s wrong. Failing to take risks guarantees a life of mediocrity.

    Remember, the LA Kings picked Thomas Hickey 4th overall. You have to take the really bad if you want the really bad.

  17. ashley says:

    TheOtherJohn:
    No one is advocating coke machines. No one. Ok, maybe Spec

    Kopitar, Carter, Joe Thornton, Marleau, Backes, Chris Stewart, Toews,Hossa, Sharp, Saad Kunitz, Iginla, Morrow, Malkin……… not small men.

    All larger than all but Hall in our top 6

    Skill equal, size is preferable. I don’t disagree with that.

    However, you look at your list of players and see “big men”. I look at your list of players and see “sublime skill”.

    I could easily add Kane, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Mike Richards, Dustin Brown, Marchand, and Crosby and suddenly you’d have a size scattergram, with the common thread of skill tying these variably sized men together.

    If you carefully pick your data points, you can prove just about anything.

    The yearlong “trade Gagner for size” was never going to net anyone on either of our lists. It was going to get us Stalberg or something similiar. That was my issue with it.

  18. TheOtherJohn says:

    Ashley

    Please stop with the coke machine references. Nobody is advocating for them

    Crosby, Richards, D bag Brown are all as big and at least as physical as Taylor Hall……. the biggest player in our top 6. The rest of our top 6 do not play physical. No one in our top 6 (not even Hall) is as hard on the puck as Datsyuk.

    We aint winning zip with T Hall as the biggest and most ohysical player in our top 6

    One of the really good enforcers in the late 70′s and early 80′s was a guy called Terry Ruskowski. 5’8″ 175-180 lbs. You can be tough and small. Domi was as well. Peca was very physical (on occasion blowing guys up) but we have none of those type guys in our top 6

  19. Ice Sage says:

    ashley: Skill equal, size is preferable. I don’t disagree with that. However, you look at your list of players and see “big men”. I look at your list of players and see “sublime skill”. I could easily add Kane, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Mike Richards, Dustin Brown, Marchand, and Crosby and suddenly you’d have a size scattergram, with the common thread of skill tying these variably sized men together.If you carefully pick your data points, you can prove just about anything.The yearlong “trade Gagner for size” was never going to net anyone on either of our lists. It was going to get us Stalberg or something similiar. That was my issue with it.

    ^^^ This.

    the other thing that the selective critics fail to mention is age – Nuge is better than Datsyuk was at his age, etc. etc.

    Skill trumps all – if a good player can use his size to be great, bring him on. Otherwise, you better have the skill players to make the big players effective (who do Lucic, Kassian & Brian Boyle get the puck from again?)

  20. nelson88 says:

    ashley,

    Team size is a misleading indicator. DD and Peckham can easily skew those stats.

    What the Oilers do not have is a skilled C that also has size. As your list demonstrates the only 2 “contenders”; and I will include SJ and St. Louis in that phrase, that don’t have a skilled C (or in some cases 2) with size are Detroit and Boston. Both of those teams make up for it by having two of the best “small” all around C’s in the league who are very hard on the puck. Datsyuk and Bergeron. Big believer RNH will be in the same realm as those two but likely not until 3 – 4 years down the road.

  21. nelson88 says:

    Bergeron is listed as 6’2, 191 lbs. Didn’t think he was that big.

    Torts fired.

  22. nelson88 says:

    Go Barons!

    As flawed a stat as it maybe the plus/minus (regular season and playoffs) for Rajala and Harti are crazy good.

  23. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    I think we need to add a distinction to the worry of those of us wary of “size!”

    first a caveat… I can’t recall anyone expressing an uneasiness over the search for size saying anything like size/toughness/strength on the puck/etc aren’t valuable.

    Now… the worry is really two pronged:

    1) drafting and enforcement: ie. that the team will waste either picks chasing phantoms (Abney), or roster spots on the useless (SMAC)

    2) subtraction by size addition: ie. that the team will overpay on $, term and/or assets going the other way in a trade for skilled size (see the outlandish trade ideas, like Yakupov for Clarkson)

    The concern isn’t that size is without value, but that it is wildly overvalued by many.

  24. Vaclav says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    But, but, but it was for a signed Clarkson. Man o man Gregor got defensive about that one.

  25. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Not to mention it would be infinitely more fun to watch.

    I’m EST so it’s later… but with all the Oiler games this year I haven’t struggled to stay awake for late games… yet… these LAK games have been deadly boring to watch.

    Agreed
    Brent Sutter Hockey – bang it up the wall, bang it in to the zone, send your big bodies to the net , get 1 or 2 garbage goals / game = win. Works if you have a goalie stopping 95-100% of the shots against. Kings also have a plethora of skill, but it’s not showcased to the max with Sutter behind the bench. I’m surprised the players have bought into it for this long, but I guess if you’re winning…

    The Oilers vs Sharks and Hawks were the fastest, most skilled games that I saw this year. Now the Sharks play the Kings and you get a rugby game. The announcers can’t even tell when the puck goes in becasue there’s 10 bodies in the crease. No wonder Bob Cole announces Goal! 15 seconds after the next faceoff.

    I’m all for making the nets larger now. I’m going to guestimate 90% of the goals scored in this year’s playoffs would be considered garbage goals. That’s fine to a point – I get it – the playoffs are a war between men – it’s supposed to be a grind. After a while though every goal looks the same. A goal in the playoffs results from zone time and an unexpected bounce. Most of the goals aren’t even touching the back of the net anymore. There’s just no scoring on first shots opportunities. Bring on the bigger nets cause the goalies will cry if their equipment shrinks. Rant over

  26. OilClog says:

    SK Oiler Fan: Agreed
    Brent Sutter Hockey – bang it up the wall, bang it in to the zone, send your big bodies to the net , get 1 or 2 garbage goals / game = win. Works if you have a goalie stopping 95-100% of the shots against.Kings also have a plethora of skill, but it’s not showcased to the max with Sutter behind the bench. I’m surprised the players have bought into it for this long, but I guess if you’re winning…

    The Oilers vs Sharks and Hawks were the fastest, most skilled games that I saw this year. Now the Sharks play the Kings and you get a rugby game. The announcers can’t even tell when the puck goes in becasue there’s 10 bodies in the crease. No wonder Bob Cole announces Goal! 15 seconds after the next faceoff.

    I’m all for making the nets larger now. I’m going to guestimate 90% of the goals scored in this year’s playoffs would be considered garbage goals. That’s fine to a point – I get it – the playoffs are a war between men – it’s supposed to be a grind. After a while though every goal looks the same. A goal in the playoffs results from zone time and an unexpected bounce. Most of the goals aren’t even touching the back of the net anymore. There’s just no scoring on first shots opportunities. Bring on the bigger nets cause the goalies will cry if their equipment shrinks. Rant over

    No, lets not make the nets bigger. How about we get the officials to start calling the endless amounts of interference that is going on. New NHL was suppose to be free of the clutch and grab, guess that’s done with. It’s a shame, we would be seeing some amazing skilled goals being scored that hit the netting.

  27. B S says:

    TheOtherJohn,

    You appear to have a misconception about our top 6. Taylor Hall is the tallest regular in our top 6. He is not the largest (Gagner is 200lbs, IF we consider Paajarvi he’s 6’03″ and 208 lbs, and has as many hits as Hall), and Hall is not the most physical; everyone in the top 6 except Hemsky (if we assume Hall, Nuge, Ebs, Yak, Gagner, Hemsky is our top 6) has more hits than Hall this season (Yakupov has the most, Gagner the next highest). It seems to me that Gagner is our biggest most physical player in our top 6 (biggest, hits, and fights).

    In fact, looking at the stats it’s pretty clear that our top line (the only + line on the team for shots and scoring chances) was pretty sparing with the hits, probably because they were too busy getting the puck and scoring. Compared with Detroit and Chicago though, the Oilers were regular goons (Toews and Hall both had 24 hits this season) Edmonton had 1060 hits this season, Detroit 865, Chicago 840 hits. Yakupov would have been tied for 7 in Chicago, he’s tied for 9th in Edmonton. Being physical isn’t the Oilers problem, skill (or lack there of) is. Until the oilers have the skill to play in the NHL, size is secondary.

  28. spoiler says:

    TSN’s Off-season Game Plan is up. I think Cullen is actually starting to read Oiler blogs as part of his research as this plan seems much better reasearched than last years’.

  29. B S says:

    Hell, looking at the top 10 in points for the playoffs the only players significantly bigger than Hall or Gagner are Horton and Iginla.

  30. mike.c33 says:

    OT: To determine if Dubnyk is part of the problem, I calculated the average shots against per game of all NHL goaltenders that played at least 24 games during the 2012-13 regular season.

    Dubnyk faced 1132 shots in 38 games this season. He faced the sixth highest number of shots in the league in at least two fewer games than all the goaltenders above him on the list. His average shots against per game was 29.79. Only three goaltenders averaged more shots against than Dubnyk: Braden Holtby (31.19), Ryan Miller (31.75), and James Reimer (30.15). Two other goaltenders were in Dubnyk’s range: Kari Lehtonen (29.17) and Semyon Varlamov (28.77).

    Baseline:

    Devan Dubnyk (EDM) 38GP, 14W-16L-6OT, 2.57 GAA, 0.920 Sv%

    Averaged more shots against per game than Dubnyk:

    Braden Holtby (WSH) 36GP, 23W-12L-1OT, 2.58 GAA, 0.920 Sv%
    Ryan Miller (BUF) 40GP, 17W-17L-5OT, 2.81 GAA, 0.915 Sv%
    James Reimer (TOR) 33GP, 19W-8L-5OT, 2.46 GAA, 0.924 Sv%

    “In the range”

    Kari Lehtonen (DAL) 36GP, 15G-14L-3OT, 2.66 GAA, 0.916 Sv%
    Semyon Varlamov (COL) 35GP, 11G-21L-3OT, 3.02 GAA, 0.903 Sv%

    I found that Dubnyk’s stats compare favorably to Holtby’s so I looked at how Holtby performed in the playoffs.

    Braden Holtby (WSH) 7GP, 3G-4L-OT, 2.22 GAA, 0.922 Sv% (29.29 SA per game)

    Holtby is tied for 9th amongst playoff goalies in GAA and 11th in Sv%. I believe this confirms what we already know: Dubnyk is an average NHL goaltender.

    I looked at 29 goaltenders for this study. On average, they faced 27.38 shots per game.

    Using shots against is the controlled variable and goals against average is the responding variable. If Dubnyk faced the average number of shots per game (27.38), his GAA would be 2.19. Good for 11th in the league. Still average, but on the good side of the bell curve.

    My conclusion: Upgrade the D-corps, revert to a zone coverage defensive system (instead of man-to-man), and reduce the number of shots on net!

  31. RickDeckard says:

    Does anyone else feel that a penalty isn’t enough of a deterrent anymore? Players realize that the best teams score on about 1/5 PPs and refs are reluctant to actually call penalties so they commit them without caring.

    Make interference and hooking come with misconducts, that will open up the game.

  32. sliderule says:

    I have been critical of Stu mostly because of some of his second round picks.
    I relooked at the drafts from 2008 to 2010 and depending on how these prospects advance it may not be all that bad but it’s not real good. I based this on arrows not NHL games played as other than first rounders and Lander no one has played in NHL but they have played in AHL.
    Ist round picks 3/3 100 percent NHL average 65 percent
    Second rd picks 2/5 lander and Marcinin 40 percent NHL average 28 percent
    Third round 0/3 zero percent NHL average 19 percent
    Fourth round to seventh 2/10 twenty percent Roy and Davidson NHL average 10 percent.

    Of the second rd and lower picks we should get 1.5 out of second .6 out of third and one player out of four to seven for a total of 3.
    I think Lander and Marcinin will get their 200 games.
    It’s all on projections but of Roy and Davidson I think it’s extremely unlikely we will get one player.

    The first round picks are solid and if Roy and Davidson can pull themselves up to level of Lander and Marcinin we could look back on this and say Stu did OK not great but OK.

  33. nelson88 says:

    sliderule,

    No Harti? Oversight or you don’t think he will get to 200 games?

  34. sliderule says:

    nelson88,

    Thanks my oversight for sure makes the bottom group look a whole lot better

  35. gcw_rocks says:

    Barons are up 3-0?

    1st Period-
    1, Oklahoma City, Eager 1 (Hotham), 7:14.
    2, Oklahoma City, Green 4 8:25.
    3, Oklahoma City, Cornet 2 (Davidson, Cheechoo), 16:35.

    Sweet!

  36. gcw_rocks says:

    Barons win. 4-1 final. Talk in the post game if the Griffins are going to get a boost of players now that the Wings are out.

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