THE 2013 NHL COMBINE LIST

The NHL combine list is out today, and that gives Oilers fans a chance to preview what the scouts are looking at this year. Since 2010, Edmonton has plucked 17 names from the combine list, representing 63% of their overall list (17/27). 10 of the 27 selections in those three drafts came after #100 overall, and the Oilers have drafted only three players inside the top 100 in this period who did not attend the combine (Jeremie Blaine, Dillon Simpson, Erik Gustafsson.

The Combine invite list is here.

Corey Pronman’s top 250 is here.

I decided to cross check the two lists, assuming there would be massive cross over, and was surprised to find there’s a wide gap–even though Pronman’s is 250 deep! Now, I know there are some reasons for this (Corey includes re-entries, and he is very open about not covering off some of the tier 2 leagues) but the disconnect is massive.

Let’s begin with the players on Pronman’s top 100 that are not invited to the combine:

  • #45 L Anton Slepyshev Salvat Yulaev-KHL
  • #46 L Juuso Ikonen Blues-SM-Liiga
  • #50 L Peter Cehlarik Lulea-SEL
  • #55 L Viktor Arvidsson Skelleftea-SEL
  • #56 L Sergei Tolchinsky Sault Ste. Marie-OHL
  • #58 D Will Butcher USA Under-18-USHL
  • #59 L Taylor Cammarata Waterloo-USHL
  • #61 C Lucas Wallmark Skelleftea-J20 SuperElit
  • #74 L Tyler Motte USA Under-18-USHL
  • #77 L Anthony Louis USA Under-18-USHL
  • #78 D Wilhelm Westlund Farjestad-SEL
  • #80 L Tyler Hill Hotchkiss-US High School
  • #81 R Arturs Kuzmenkovs Metalurgs Liepaja-Belarus
  • #82 R Filip Sandberg HV71-J20 SuperElit
  • #84 R Sven Andrighetto Rouyn-Noranda-QMJHL
  • #86 C Miro Aaltonen Blues-SM-Liiga
  • #87 D Carl Dahlstrom Linkoping-J20 SuperElit
  • #88 D Jan Stencel Vitkovice-Czech Extraliga
  • #90 D Anton Cederholm Rogle-SEL
  • #92 D Ahti Oksanen Boston University-Hockey East
  • #95 D Niklas Hansson Rogle-SEL
  • # 96 L Trevor Moore Tri-City-USHL
  • # 97 C Tyler Kelleher USA Under-18-USHL
  • #98 D Emil Djuse Sodertalje-Allsvenskan
  • #99 C Greg Chase Calgary-WHL
  • #100 D Dean Kukan Tingsryd-Allsvenskan

Incredible. 26 players on Pronman’s list weren’t invited. As I mentioned above, some of them (like Slepyshev) are re-entries; only one is in the KHL but there are 9 from Sweden and that’s a pretty strong hockey country. What’s more, there are 6 USHL kids and another from USA high school hockey! I haven’t gone back to see if this has sustain year over year, but this seems like a lot of disagreement. It begins at Juuso Ikonen (he’s a 1995, small skill winger) who scored 13-13-26 in the SM-Liiga this season at age 17. Surprising result.

Now, we move on to combine invites that didn’t make Pronman’s top 100. Fortunately, since he goes 250 (!!!!!) deep, we have very few players without a number hanging beside their name.

Pronman has the following invitees outside the top 100:

  • #101: C Yan-Pavel LaPlante
  • #103: D Teemu Kivihalme
  • #104: C Adam Tambellini
  • #105: D Mason Gaertsen
  • #107: R Nicholas Baptiste
  • #108: L Gabriel Paquin-Boudreau
  • #110: L Zachary Sanford
  • #113: G Juuse Saros
  • #114: C Sean Malone
  • #116: L Remi Elie
  • #120: C Kurt Etchegary
  • #121: L Myles Bell
  • #124: C Avery Peterson
  • #127: G Erik Comrie
  • #128: D Mitchell Wheaton
  • #137: C Jeremy Gregoire
  • #149: D Tyler Lewington
  • #150: G Philippe Desrosiers
  • #160: G Spencer Martin
  • #177: D Spenser Jensen
  • #212: G Eamon McAdam
  • Not Ranked: L David Pope
  • Not Ranked: D Alexandre Coulombe
  • Not Ranked: D Dylan Labbe
  • Not Ranked: D Antony Florentino
  • Not Ranked: C Avery Peterson
  • Not Ranked: D Ty Stanton

And 27 going the other way (101 invites). Now, Corey has been up front about tier 2 stuff (he did say a scout helped him on Tambellini) and most of the guys who missed are taken care of by about 130. He doesn’t rank Pope or Coulombe, but that’s likely because he didn’t see them–I’d rather that than some weird slotting based on something other than valuable information.

Anyway, I’d like the NHL to invite 20 more Euro’s and 10 more Americans next year. That is all.

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12 Responses to "THE 2013 NHL COMBINE LIST"

  1. Rondo says:

    Zadorov is not looking like the player I read about. Only 2 games but

  2. sliderule says:

    The scouts had to love Horvats game.

    Wins face-offs kills penalties and tilts the ice.

    This guy is the big solid center the oilers want

  3. oilgreg says:

    sliderule:
    The scouts had to love Horvats game.

    Wins face-offs kills penalties and tilts the ice.

    This guy is the big solid center the oilers want

    I saw the game on Friday, and my thoughts were ‘over-rated’;
    a) he is not as fast as Lazar
    b) he does not hit the way Lazar does
    In a direct comparison, I would take Lazar, who most lists (Eastern-based I would guess) is ranked lower.
    He is solid though … crushed a d-man who was attempting an open-ice hit on him.

  4. Kitchener says:

    The Oilers WILL draft for team need, especially with a new GM. However, I predict it’ll be by POSITION, not height/weight.

    Thus, the first 3 picks will likely be a combination of: 1 C, 1 G, 1 D.

    They’ll take fliers in the later rounds, but:
    - leaving this draft without a solid C prospect is idiotic
    - leaving this draft with more than 1 top D prospect is idiotic
    - it’s time to bring another high-end goalie prospect into the system
    - using high picks on RWs for this team is idiotic

    Why only 1 top D pick? The opportunity cost is too high, given Simpson, Marincin, Gernat, Klefbom, Musil…

    I’d be happy if the first three picks are 2 Centers and 1 Goalie. Whatever the average failure rate for drafted Centers is, we should cover the odds to ensure at least 1 useful C.

  5. oilgreg says:

    Rondo:
    Zadorovis not looking like the player I read about.Only 2 gamesbut

    Again, watched him live. Covers the ice well, moves the puck well, & is good prepositionally. I came away impressed. Still, with the seventh pick, gotta go with draft history and take offence.

  6. oilgreg says:

    Kitchener,

    I agree with taking the two centers (if they are the BPA), but lets save the goalie for the fifth-to-seventh rounds … past drafts tell us the odd of finding a goalie there are just as good as early in the draft.

  7. Chris Hext---formerly EasyOil--- says:

    Really intrigued by Myles Bell, kid was fairly highly rated until his car accident in his first draft eligible year, and seems to have reinvented himself as a quality forward. Would be worth a late pick if he’s still around I reckon.

  8. sliderule says:

    oilgreg,

    He is definitely not as good a skater as Lazar but neither is Barkov..

    His straight ahead speed is good as I saw when he scored on breakaway on PK in OHL final.

    He is at least 10 lbs heavier than Lazar and has the build to play at 215 lbs

    He scored all the big goals in OHL final and was MVP .

    Smart ,kills penalties ,wins face-offs and unlike other so called centers like Lazar Domi and Lindholm actualy plays center not the wing

  9. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    “Anyway, I’d like the NHL to invite 20 more Euro’s and 10 more Americans next year. That is all.”

    On that point… I noticed as well that the combine list seems to ignore Europe and the States a bit… and it got me wondering if something like “travel” might be an issue… or perhaps people were invited but for one reason or another turned it down (maybe they don’t have any intention of pushing for NHL work?)

    That’s probably stretching… but that’s what occurred to me initially… though the truth is probably a lack of exposure to other hockey markets.

  10. Rondo says:

    oilgreg,

    Thanks, It is difficult watching a D-man on TV .

  11. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    oilgreg: Again, watched him live. Covers the ice well, moves the puck well, & is good prepositionally. I came away impressed. Still, with the seventh pick, gotta go with draft history and take offence.

    funny… I posted about prepositions just the other day :)

    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/113187/grumpy-grammarian-dangling-preposition-myth#

  12. dessert1111 says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    You’re a linguistics professor at Columbia?

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