HOMES FOR HORCOFF

In less than a decade, we’ve gone from “Shirts off for Horcoff” to “find a home for Horcoff” but at least we’ll have closure. And some NHL players. Right?

I have a theory about what’s happening here, and suspect Horcoff leaving is part of the Changing of The Guard we talked about a year ago now. Here’s what I think: the Oilers (pre or post MacT GM hiring) at some point discussed passing on the captaincy to the younger guard, and Horcoff–being a proud man and a leader–declined the opportunity (probably by asking for a trade).

In sport–as in business, and certainly in the military–the next step is clear and we await the act. Alea iacta est.

Lots of chatter about where Horcoff and Hemsky will end up, personally I think the main issue is that the Oilers need NHL players. Horcoff and Hemsky are two of them. Sending them out? Fine.

That adds to the list of players coming in.

Craig MacTavish is going to blow this thing up. I don’t think there’s any other way to frame these comments. Horcoff, Hemsky, Whitney, Khabibulin, Belanger, Eager, Petrell, Jones, Peckham, Fistric, others.

How many roster spots changing hands? I think we need to revise that number up.

(For the interview that inspired all the Horcoff-Hemsky chatter, check out Mark Spector’s interview in the Podcast section of Team 1260′s website.)

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  1. FTO says:

    Wow MacT really is going to blow this roster up, man is ever well spoken though hey? I love both those players but I guess there comes a time for everyone to go, he must have some centermen lined up if he’s going to trade our best defensive one right???

  2. leadfarmer says:

    Yeay, rebuild version … Oh wait which rebuild number are we on again?

  3. Rondo says:

    This is the new and improved rebuild the similarities are different this time.

  4. rickithebear says:

    His wife is from Lansing Area!

  5. DBO says:

    So yeah, this is exciting and scary all at once. As you mentioned LT, these are probably the two most reliable guys we’ve had for a while, and losing them will hurt. All about who they replace them with. IhOpe we get real NHLers. Even if they are younger, at least be real players.

    So who? Do we swap older player for older player with a similar deal but who fits a need? does that even make us better? And who would want them?

    Hemsky: One year deal means less risk. A team in the running is a possibility. Or a team looking for an offensive complement who needs to make it to the next level. Team i see for him that fits best is the Islanders. They need some help offensively, and Hemsky would not be asked to be the top dog, but would see more ice then he had here. They can certainly afford him, and could use a good push as they move into their new building in a few years. Who to get back? Well Neiderreitter would be solid. no idea if it would happen, but Erat got Forsberg, so maybe with Neidereitter’s tarde demand it would make sense for both (especially f we added a Pitlik or someone). And if it’s done asap, then you can make needed moves at the draft.
    Other option is Columbus. Dollars need to be equal, but they could use offensive help for Gaborik, and are close to playoffs, so maybe a Hemsky for Umberger deal works.

    Horcoff:
    - This is the hard one. The good part about his deal is that he is owed less then his cap hit. We may very well buy him out, but the Isles could work. Possibly Nashville, who has cap space, but not tons of dollars. Maybe for a young dman like Blum and some salary coming back , not sure.
    The other one may be Winnipeg. They have cap space, a solid group of kids and could use a vet 3rd line centre (so could we, so it annoys me he will be moved). Maybe for Burmistrov (who also requested a trade). Could work for both.
    Or perhaps Jersey. Who have a ton of cap space, almost no one signed next year, and Horcoff would fit the mold of what they like (vet two way guys, who get paid not much money compared to cap hit). Maybe it’s for the rights of clarkson, who knows. Maybe for Volchenkov who is overpaid, but a good stay at home dman. Dollars close to same (not saying I want it, but could be what we get)

    Lots of work for MacT. Hope he gets value and something we need.

    Hemsky and Pitlik for Neidereiter and the rights to Streit.
    Horcoff to Winnipeg for Burmistrov.

    I’d be happy with those two moves. younger yes, but lots of grit to go with skill. I expect we’ll need salary back, but who knows. Can MacT make some magic? here’s hoping.

  6. BlacqueJacque says:

    Hasn’t the horcster been a Mact favorite for ages? I have a hard time seeing Mac getting rid of him. Passing the captaincy on is one thing, but a trade verges on the impossible and a buyout would be a grave insult to a captain and Mac favorite. In fact, iirc, Mac was alleged to push to sign horc for the big money and term. That’s somewhat less believable now that we have such consistent and ample evidence of Lowe’s natural managerial incompetence, but Mac and Horc are a tandem in my mind.

    Also that leaves us without a third line centre.

  7. leadfarmer says:

    DBO,

    Who wouldn’t be happy with those moves other than the other team. The first one isnt that bad but I’m sure Snow would want someone better coming back than Pitlick, probably someone like Marincin.

    The second one, the HFBoards style one, would get you laughed at by the other GM. I could see something like Horcoff plus retain 1 mil per year salary to Florida for a 3rd.

  8. DBO says:

    leadfarmer,

    Agreed on most. But hey, never thought we’d get Pronger for 3 who we dealt. For a team who wants to push for a playoff spot, both guys can help. Maybe we do retain salary, but i think we could end up being surprised what we can get back.

  9. striatic says:

    BlacqueJacque: Hasn’t the horcster been a Mact favorite for ages?

    Nixon, China.

  10. prairieschooner says:

    Horcoff is a hard working 3 rd line centre who can hold his own when playing the toughs and is good in the face off circle. In recent years he has been forced to carry a heavy workload and his effectiveness can be measured when he returned from injury late in the season and the team started winning.
    So are we looking for a doppelganger just not named Horcoff ?

  11. Captain Happy says:

    leadfarmer:
    DBO,

    Who wouldn’t be happy with those moves other than the other team.The first one isnt that bad but I’m sure Snow would want someone better coming back than Pitlick, probably someone like Marincin.

    The second one, the HFBoards style one, would get you laughed at by the other GM.I could see something like Horcoff plus retain 1 mil per year salary to Florida for a 3rd.

    Florida already has a better version of Horcoff…Marcel Goc…cap hit $1.7 million.

  12. Spydyr says:

    Been saying for a while now I would not keep more then ten players off last years roster so eleven or more moves works for me.Centers and defense, the way a rebuild should be.A young goalie with a legit chance of taking over as number one would also be on my list .

    Blowed up real good.

    John Candy SCTV circa 1980′s

    Sure there is a clip of it somewhere on the interwebs.

  13. Lowetide says:

    striatic: Nixon, China.

    This is so brilliant, and it’s decades ago. Man. Nixon, China. Incredible

  14. Kris11 says:

    I can see wanting to move Hemsky. It makes sooooo much sense. You need D. You need to trade to get them. The Oilers are stronger at RW than anywhere else, and they’ll be spending too much cap room at F soon, so RW is where they need to sell to make trades for D. Granted, Hemsky’s cap hit and injuries are a problem, but that just means the returning Dman will likely have a similar cap or injury problem.

    In a way, with Eberle and Yakupov, you don’t need to replace Hemsky. He’s already replaced.

    But dealing Horcoff means you need to find a solid center who can play well in his own end, and PK, and take important draws, and play against the toughest opposition. Even with 5MM in cash, freed up from moving Horcoff (and they would need to take salary back), there is no guarantee that you find a center who can do all that. Risky move, especially for a club with two young players at 1C and 2C and (with Belanger certainly gone) absolutely no veteran backup.

    And now they’ve pretty much committed to moving Horcoff. I am sure he’d be happy playing for a while, but you don’t make a comment about a guy like that and keep him in he dressing room for long.

    Crazy stuff. If I were MacT, I’d have said something weaker like “Well, we do have to think about moving the veteran forwards to get the right players in return. But any team would want those guys -Hemsky and Horcoff- including us. It’s just a question of whether there is a deal that is good for us that includes those guys. But they aren’t untouchables, no. But they’re character guys who have a lot of good seasons.”

    But MacT, for no good outcome, said “We don’t want them anymore” which just makes it harder if you can’t move them.

    Unforced error.

  15. LostBoy says:

    MacTavish is couching this as these guys have given all they have to give to Edmonton and are basically worn down here but could be revivified elsewhere. And that’s likely true. But like he said in the Spector interview, these aren’t really “bold” moves, they’re obvious ones.

    If you look at what we’re paying to who and where we are versus the cap, it’s almost impossible to carry out the kind of meaningful overhaul of the roster MacTavish has promised without doing this. If at this point the third line is Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky (although Smyth is now more in a fourth line niche), you just CAN’T have $12.75m in cap hit tied up there.

    If the returners prior to additions look like this:

    ____/Nugent Hopkins/Eberle
    Hall/Gagner/Yakupov
    Paajarvi/Horcoff/Hemsky
    ____/_____/Hartikainen
    ____/Brown

    ____/J. Schultz
    Smid/Petry
    Belov/____
    Potter

    Dubnyk
    ____

    …then that’s already somewhere around $54.284m (assuming $5m for Gagner, $1m for Paajarvi, $0.75m for Hartikainen). If Nick Schlultz is not moved, then we’re at $57.784.

    You aren’t filling seven holes, including a top six forward and a top four (ideally top two) defenseman, for ca. $10m. Nah gah happen. If Nick Shultz is retained, you have to fill six holes, including a top six forward and top four defenseman, for ~$6.5m. That’s virtually impossible.

    Shedding these cap hits (and, imo, N. Schultz’s) is the obvious path. Yes, then there are 9 holes, but MacTavish will (potentially) be able to redistribute the cap hit in a way that makes more sense (with the moderately large hits not to third line players, but to the top six winger and top four defenseman).

    Moving these players is just what you have to do if you want to make the kinds of changes he’s promised. There really isn’t any other obvious option.

    No disrespect to Horcoff or Hemsky. It’s just time.

  16. LostBoy says:

    Kris11:
    And now they’ve pretty much committed to moving Horcoff. I am sure he’d be happy playing for a while, but you don’t make a comment about a guy like that and keep him in he dressing room for long.

    He did say he’d spoken with both players and they were basically in agreement.

    The fact that he was this startlingly explicit about them being finished in Edmonton has to indicate there’s about a zero percent chance either will be staying – he has to have his course of action, or at least palatable courses of action, already in his pocket.

    That said, I don’t think there should be high expectations for what comes back. These moves are about cap space, plain and simple.

  17. Mr DeBakey says:

    Horcov’s salary is $4 mm & $3 mm for the next two years.

    I could see the Isles taking one or either, probably not both.
    I wonder what the Oilers would have to add to get Okposo.
    Never mind.

    Bouwmeester for Hemsky makes some sense.
    or,
    Would the Make Believes trade Kulemin for HemskY?

  18. BlacqueJacque says:

    Oh, MacT said these things?

    I thought LT was just speculating.

    The internet in this camp is horrible.

  19. Lowetide says:

    BlacqueJacque:
    Oh, MacT said these things?

    I thought LT was just speculating.

    The internet in this camp is horrible.

    lol.

  20. Rebilled says:

    This was a nice part of that Spec/MacT interview:

    With the cap falling this season, and Edmonton well placed with plenty of spending room, a similar dynamic exists. Most GMs are expecting heightened movement of players for draft picks, starting at the upcoming National Hockey League draft.

    “There is going to be some of that this year, but it’s yet to have revealed itself completely,” MacTavish said, “We have to surround some of the former draft choices we’ve had with more depth.”

    Revealed itself completely?

    Sincerely,

    Darth MacTavish

  21. Vaclav says:

    By announcing to the league that Horcoff is available in a trade you’re appeasing the Horcoff camp if the need for a buyout should arise. ie they’ve done everything they can but can’t find a trading partner.

    Having said that I think Horcoff could be easily moved if some salary comes the other way. A $5.5M cap hit with only $1.75M-2.0M per season in actual dollars would be very attractive to a handful of teams.

  22. knighttown says:

    So this is fun reading as a fan but what possible good can come out of this. Possible bad outcomes are reduced negotiating power, disgruntled players and what could be the first salvo of a war of words. You could maybe argue that no damage was done but I ask again…

    How do today’s actions help this team?

  23. knighttown says:

    knighttown:
    So this is fun reading as a fan but what possible good can come out of this. Possible bad outcomes are reduced negotiating power, disgruntled players and what could be the first salvo of a war of words. You could maybe argue that no damage was done but I ask again…

    How do today’s actions help this team?

    Nothing more than speculation but I expect “refreshing honest guy” is gonna be his persona. This leads me to believe the absence of Elias Lindholm was not subterfuge.

  24. bookje says:

    MacT indicated that the dressing room has been a circus (a few times). Clearly he must see part of the problem being the captain. He also said the team can no longer be veterans and young guys, but that everyone will just be an Oiler. Seems like he is painting Horcoff with the same brush as Moreau?

  25. bookje says:

    Here is the quote – sounds like a lprinlem with leadership in the room.

    ““Sam Gagner has really developed into a leader here, the type of character we want. And that’s going to be important when I’m making the decisions that we have the type of culture in that room. We’ve had a few years of too much of a circus in there. And that’s going to change,” he also stated.”

    Thecaptainsamgagner???

  26. Lowetide says:

    Vaclav:
    By announcing to the league that Horcoff is available in a trade you’re appeasing the Horcoff camp if the need for a buyout should arise.ie they’ve done everything they can but can’t find a trading partner.

    Having said that I think Horcoff could be easily moved if some salary comes the other way.A $5.5M cap hit with only $1.75M-2.0M per season in actual dollarswould be very attractive to a handful of teams.

    Horcoff ‘camp’? There’s about 12 of us holding on and begging people not to boo him when his name is announced at Rexall. There is no Horcoff camp.

    None.

  27. Vaclav says:

    Lowetide: Horcoff ‘camp’? There’s about 12 of us holding on and begging people not to boo him when his name is announced at Rexall. There is no Horcoff camp.

    None.

    Ha. I meant him and his agent. It’s a small camp. More like a hut or a bivouac.

  28. fifthcartel says:

    The feeling has to be mutual, it’s even on the TSN front page (or was). Wonder if they get any useful additions for them.

  29. LostBoy says:

    bookje:
    Here is the quote – sounds like a lprinlem with leadership in the room.

    ““Sam Gagner has really developed into a leader here, the type of character we want. And that’s going to be important when I’m making the decisions that we have the type of culture in that room. We’ve had a few years of too much of a circus in there. And that’s going to change,” he also stated.”

    Thecaptainsamgagner???

    When he said that, I couldn’t get any feel for whether he meant there were any current shenanigans or if it was more of a commentary on a bunch of the stuff since the season he was dismissed. After that season he said something about the worst part of it was that “the culture took a hit”. So he’s been dissatisfied with it for a good long time. Then obviously the Souray thing. There’s maybe still been an age divide, as Krueger was explicit in the media about veteran roles needing to change after he got elevated. But I’d like to believe “circus” referred to the multiyear period beginning with the 2008-2009 season.

    I’m sure dropping Dany Heatley into the “culture” in the summer of 2009 would have cured everything.

  30. BlacqueJacque says:

    Lowetide: lol.

    I think you’ll admit we are in the standard playoff lull for Oilers news and you’ve been stretching for news :)

  31. Lowetide says:

    Vaclav: Ha.I meant him and his agent.It’s a small camp.More like a hut or a bivouac.

    Ah. Makes way more sense than how I read it. Age. It’s a beach!

  32. Lowetide says:

    BlacqueJacque: I think you’ll admit we are in the standard playoff lull for Oilers news and you’ve been stretching for news :)

    Actually, I’ve been thinking of refunding some of your subscription money. :-)

  33. Gerta Rauss says:

    I think they can move Hemsky.They may have to keep some salary, but that shouldn’t be a showstopper.

    I like St Louis as a trading partner-they could use a little creativity up front. Rex mentioned Carolina last night and there might be a fit there.

    Hemsky and Teubert/Peckham/pick should be attractive to a team looking for veteran scoring without much cap/dollars/term in exchange for a serviceable D.

  34. admiralmark says:

    I think we as fans have to consider the possibility that MacT’s planned moves are likely going to take place over the next “2 seasons”. I just cant see him being successful moving all those players out and fulfilling the list of needs coming back in one year. There are 29 other GM;s looking to upgrade their rosters that are going to hamper the speed of which MacT can move. I wouldn’t be surprised if this becomes too much to chew at once and a standstill in the standings occurs due to these inordinate # of moves attempted.

  35. Lowetide says:

    admiralmark:
    I think we as fans have to consider the possibility that MacT’s planned moves are likely going to take place over the next “2 seasons”. I just cant see him being successful moving all those players out and fulfilling the list of needs coming back in one year. There are 29 other GM;s looking to upgrade their rosters that are going to hamper the speed of which MacT can move. I wouldn’t be surprised if this becomes too much to chew at once and a standstill in the standings occurs due to these inordinate # of moves attempted.

    This. I think reasonable people can agree on the following as a center of the cluster:

    Nuge-Hall-Eberle
    Gagner-(scoring L)-Yakupov
    (checking C)-Paajarvi-(checking R)
    (checking C)-Hartikainen-(4line)
    (extra) (extra)

    Smid-Petry
    Schultz-Schultz
    (Belov)-Potter/Klefbom
    (extra)

    DD
    (backup)

    So, that’s a lot of change year over year. A LOT. He’s blowing it up, though. No reason to be so public if there was any plan to return Horcoff or Hemsky.

  36. Gerta Rauss says:

    admiralmark,

    Agree-I’ve been thinking the same thing lately. As the “to do” list has been getting longer and longer my expectations for getting it all done this summer has lessened somewhat.

  37. Gerta Rauss says:

    I’m not overly concerned about Mac T telegraphing his intentions for Horcoff-the league knows what he is at this point and what they are getting(a hard working veteran C with a poor contract)

    There might be a fit with another team looking to dump some salary(or buyout their player) and we exchange players and they buyout Horcoff instead.

    And if Mac T can’t find a fit anywhere they will use a compliance buyout.

    On that note, what do we know about JM Liles in Toronto..? He doesn’t bring the size Mac T is looking for but he’s a good skater and can put up points and work a PP. I liked his game when he was with Colorado.

    Toronto could then buyout Horcoff for less dollars*

    If Liles isn’t working out after 1 season(or they need the capspace) the Oilers could buy him out summer 2014 if it comes to that.

    *assuming Toronto didn’t want him on the roster

  38. slopitch says:

    I dunno about “blowing it up”. Horcoff and Hemsky were fairly average last year and by moving them, Oilers gain 10 million in cap space. I get that they were good soldiers but 3rd liners on the depth chart whose games are regressing (to my eye). I’d like to see how MacT spends the cap space before calling it another blowup.

    I’d target Florida for Horcoff and Columbus for Hemsky. Something like Horcoff for a prospect and the rights to Weiss. Florida has a ton of good prospects. Hemsky,7th for Tytuin, 14th or something.

    And I guess my last ramble for tonight is that given the oilers depth chart, they need forwards more then D. On D they need a top pairing player though which is harder to find. The shopping list is long.

    Make Hall captain.

    Also, commenting is crashing on the iPhone again. Or is it just me?

  39. bookje says:

    Horcoff buyout to free cap space to pick up buyout FA’s from other teams???

  40. Lucinius says:

    So very much that could go wrong here.

    Like Horcoff or not (and I do like the over-paid bastard) he’s very important to the team due to the fact he’s one of two centers we have that actually can play defensive hockey. Gagner, as good of a hockey player as he is, has been fairly useless defensively.

    By moving Hemsky and Horcoff… the Oilers take a massive risk that depends very heavily on who they get in return — especially since RNH likely won’t be ready at the start of the season or in game form (Hall took awhile to get into form with more time off).

    If they go.. I hope they end up somewhere nice.. some place they can win a cup. They both deserve to get out of the loony bin and see the promised land.

  41. asiaoil says:

    Horcoff ($7 million left over 2 years) for Umburger ($13.5 million over 3 years) makes some sense.

  42. Ryan says:

    Hey, I’ll give props to 2006, but…

    Horcoff is a marginally useful hockey player whose importance is an illusion created by Belanger, VV, and Gagner’s terrible defense.

  43. Lowetide says:

    Ryan:
    Hey, I’ll give props to 2006, but…

    Horcoff is a marginally useful hockey player whose importance is an illusion created by Belanger, VV, and Gagner’s terrible defense.

    It was 2013 when this team stepped into an elevator shaft when Horcoff went down. I’m all for out with the old, let’s just make sure ‘in with the new’ is a better mousetrap.

  44. Ryan says:

    Lowetide,

    With Horcoff, you’d have to wonder if there’s already a deal in place otherwise it’s hard to throw this out there unless they’re willing to buy him out. His is not a mobile contract.

  45. Lowetide says:

    Ryan:
    Lowetide,

    With Horcoff, you’d have to wonder if there’s already a deal in place otherwise it’s hard to throw this out there unless they’re willing to buy him out.His is not a mobile contract.

    Agreed. Great point. It makes sense if they’re secure in the knowledge it’s done/close to done and we’re waiting for the Stanley to be won.

  46. Ryan says:

    Lowetide: Agreed. Great point. It makes sense if they’re secure in the knowledge it’s done/close to done and we’re waiting for the Stanley to be won.

    Alan, no clue why but my gut’s telling me that he’ll pull an Islanders jersey over his shoulders next season. Might involve eating some of his actual salary…

    There’s still a useful player left, but not useful to cap team.

  47. Gerta Rauss says:

    asiaoil:
    Horcoff ($7 million left over 2 years) for Umburger ($13.5 million over 3 years) makes some sense.

    Scottie Upshall ($7M) works as well.

  48. PunjabiOil says:

    Umburger makes sense.

    Upshall can’t stay healthy, and doesn’t want to play in Edmonton (despite being a fort McMurray boy). He also sucks.

  49. PunjabiOil says:

    Horcoff has a full NMC clause until July 1, and after that, has a 10 team list.

    The 10 team list can still be restricting though. The list may just not include teams that are pressed to the cap and unlikely trade sources.

  50. Ribs says:

    I just keep replaying that moment in an Oil Change episode that aired this season where Krueger was calling out Horcoff and all he could do was sit there with his head down in silence. Not something you’d like to see from your captain.

    Horcoff hasn’t been placed into a position to succeed in a very long time. It will be nice to see him contribute better elsewhere.

    I sure hope MacTavish has some master plan for getting some centers that can play on this team. Trading away the most solid one on the roster could end up being very unwise.

  51. Wes Mantooth-11 says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    No and No.

    Both Upshall and Umberger have NMC and NTC so trading for them is slim to none.

    The Oilers have to get a little meaner, harder to play against and little more competitive all round.

    Umberger and Upshall don’t play that grind type game.

  52. Wes Mantooth-11 says:

    Just a continuation to Upshall, I would also think that any player that has been traded 6 times would throw up serious red flags.

  53. SoxandOil says:

    If Horcoff is on the way out then MacT’s offseason shopping list has at least 2 centers, ideally 3. Horcoff is still usefull on the 3rd line the only negative is his contract, unless his attitude is starting to change. I’d much rather Horc on the team then Belanger next season.

    We need more center depth not less. This is not the bold move you’re looking for.

  54. gcw_rocks says:

    I think its clear this is yet another re-build in the making. It should be shorter given the wunderkids, but as LT points out, you want MacT to trade Horcoff AFTER he has his replacement lined up, not before, in case an equivalent or better replacement is not available.

    I do not get why MacT would be talking about trading either player before having a deal done. He’s not dealing from a position of strength and this only makes it worse.

    Frankly, while its nice to hear a coherent GM, I am beginning to think MacT talks too much. Stop yapping and focus on doing. We are going to measure you by what you do or don’t do.

    Sigh. Oilers.

  55. RMGS says:

    Lowetide: No reason to be so public if there was any plan to return Horcoff or Hemsky.

    My concern is that the existing potential return for Horcoff and Hemsky is likely not very good. Given the important veteran roster spots these players fill, this is bad news. Unless MacT hoodwinks his counterparts (and showing his cards doesn’t help), I don’t see equivalent replacements coming back in a trade.

  56. RMGS says:

    gcw_rocks: Frankly, while its nice to hear a coherent GM, I am beginning to think MacT talks too much. Stop yapping and focus on doing. We are going to measure you by what you do or don’t do.

    This.

  57. Ca$h-Money! says:

    gcw_rocks,

    SoxandOil,

    He can’t really “stop yapping and focus on doing” because there isn’t much he can do right now. He can talk trades with other GMs and make agreements-in-principle, but I’m pretty sure the trade deadline is in effect until the cup is won. Unless of course his plan is to build an entire team from the KHL…. doesn’t appear to be the case thank god.

    The idea of culture change makes sense to me, especially if he feels it is keeping his young core from reaching the next level of their development (likely more Hall/Eberle than Yakupov). I hope he replaces them with competent players, and to this point he has seemed like a smart guy, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves me wrong.

  58. slopitch says:

    Frankly, while its nice to hear a coherent GM, I am beginning to think MacT talks too much.Stop yapping and focus on doing.We are going to measure you by what you do or don’t do.

    The Oilers are pretty aware that trades and trade discussions get leaked early and often. I don’t see it as dealing from a position of weakness, there are 29 teams to have conversations with. He’s likely told all of them before telling the media and has an idea of their value.

  59. Lowetide says:

    for me, the Horcoff/Hemsky chatter from MacT has to mean there’s something in the works. Brownlee has an item up on ON that states it pretty well.

  60. Wolfpack says:

    Horcoff’s contract will be a challenge. It will probably mean the Oilers will have to take back quite a bit of salary. And as has been mentioned here numerous times, what Horcoff brings is important to this team and needs to be replaced. Except for the ability to miss the net by six feet on a breakaway. That we’ve still got plenty of.

    With Hemsky, obviously his lack of durability is a concern but I do think that he has value. I looked at the teams that had the most trouble scoring last year that could really use some help at RW and I think Hemsky could find a home with:

    FLA – their RW depth is pretty bad and their scoring was brutal last year. Hemsky and Huberdeau would look pretty good on the same line.
    NSH – Hemsky has feasted against Nashville throughout his career.
    BUFF – the team might not want to take on the salary but they could sure use his offence.
    WPG – worst PP in the NHL last year.

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