IT’S MORNING IN OILERS NATION

The process that will turn a collection of gifted kids, failed prospects, journeymen and tired old men into a winner begins today. MacT would like to take a bulldozer to the rear end of this roster but you can’t fire everyone–someone has to run the cash register and someone has to clean up in aisle three.

MACT TO DO LIST

  1. Sign Sam Gagner to a multi-year deal that has begins with a number in the 4′s.
  2. Get Paajarvi signed and then find a role that suits him (suspect it’s 3line).
  3. Deal Hemsky for immediate help (even if its a checker).
  4. Deal Horcoff or slot him into the 3line job for which he is actually ideal.
  5. Find a 2line L who can complement Gagner-Yakupov with puck retrieval, blocking out the sun, etc
  6. Find a 3line C and L to play with Paajarvi
  7. Find a 4line C to play with Smyth/Brown
  8. Decide on Lander/Belanger or other for 13F (and 14F if they go with 7D).
  9. Top 4 defender (a genuinely effective one, no ‘almosts or sortas’)
  10. Better blue depth (MacT has done this with Belov, plus Klefbom/Fedun/Marincin)
  11. Backup goalie
  12. AHL #1/NHL #3 goalie
  13. Sign Paul Ranger

The one thing I truly believe is that Craig MacTavish will make better bets than Steve Tambellini. Why? Well, part of it has to do with his ability to sell the ‘Alberta advantage’ or whatever they’re calling it this week. A recent example is Anton Belov, a player coveted by several other teams (including Pittsburgh) and I do think we can give at least some credit to MacT for the Harvey the Hound news item yesterday.

The other part of it is this: I’m absolutely certain Craig MacTavish will aim higher. Good lord–and not to be cruel–but when you go to market in search of a legit NHL defenseman and return with a guy your divisional rival recently bought out well that’s not good, sir.

SUNRISE

Let’s look at one of the positions of need–2line LW. The Oilers have (I believe) a possible option (Magnus Paajarvi) who may not bring enough lumber, and he was part of a very wobbly group last season in what can only be described as bizarro trio (Gagner-Paajarvi/Yakupov-Hemsky). If the Oilers go to market, how high can they fly?

If I’m looking for a complement to Gagner-Yakupov, I’d like a LW (you may want a center) who can work with those two and bring good possession numbers, have good to very good speed and be excellent at puck retrieval, standing in front of the net and being strong everywhere. It would be nice if he could win a faceoff but it isn’t a deal breaker.

Here’s my list of possibles from best to last:

  1. James Neal–Outstanding, probably out of range (asset cost)
  2. Dustin Penner–Possession stats are always good, he plays well with Gagner
  3. TJ Oshie–Buy low, he had an off-season but has been solid in the past
  4. Clarke MacArthur–A solid talent, UFA this summer
  5. Viktor Stalberg–An inexpensive option, effective against soft parade
  6. Matt Moulson–Foot speed the main concern
  7. Dainus Zubrus–Age is the major factor here

Your mileage may vary, and as mentioned maybe it’s a center coming in. The point is that when Edmonton had a challenge of the same importance in 2011 summer–a legit top 4D–they chose Cam Barker. That’s a poor bet leaving the station. I’m not an expert, but for me something happened to the Edmonton Oilers on the day Chris Pronger left town. They lost their way, they became an ‘aim low’ team, a team that either could not identify or could not convince quality players to join them.

All these number ones will help, but at some point an organization needs a man who’ll look the recruit in the eyes and sell him the vision. I sincerely believe that’s what we’re going to see this week. Finally, a vision. A plan. Not every bet will turn out, but every bet will have a chance.

CRAZY

As a draft nerd, I do have an appreciation for how boring some people find the NHL draft. My family tells me all the time, usually when I’m repeating the Jesse Niinimaki story to them (“yes Dad, we know, you went on the internet and couldn’t find anything on him and the men on tsn were speechless” and roll eyes) but there are some incredible things around the draft each season.

The 2010 entry draft had a possible bomb go off last night, as this appeared out of nowhere courtesy Canucks Army and hf boards. This may or may not be the Canucks final draft list, but let’s assume for the sake of argument it’s close to being the final draft for the draft. It LOOKS authentic based on what I’ve been told about teams and their lists: a tremendous amount of clutter, some stunning names up high and down low, and a few picks that border on crazy. Area scouts, saw him good, ‘Lyle, we haven’t taken a kid in Kenny’s territory since 1976 for Christ’s sake’ and ‘why did we bother to get a goalie scout if we’re not going to listen to the guy?’ are all in there.

One thing Oiler fans can take away is another opinion on their draft. Here’s the top end of the Oilers draft, with final number, the Bob Mckenzie number and then the Canucks list:

  • Taylor Hall. Drafted #1, Bob McKenzie #1, Canucks #1
  • Tyler Pitlick Drafted #31, Bob McKenzie #25, Canucks #47
  • Martin Marincin Drafted #46, Bob McKenzie #71, Canucks #51
  • Curtis Hamilton Drafted #48, Bob McKenzie #57, Canucks #54
  • Ryan Martindale Drafted #61, Bob McKenzie #58, Canucks #65

I don’t know that there’s any great revelation here, but it’s interesting all the same. The one pick that appears destined to come out of the second and third round (Marincin) was not loved by McKenzie but the Oilers and Canucks liked him well enough to have him squarely in round two.

Bob McKenzie’s list is released today, the Oilers have been fairly risk averse over the years (with notable exceptions) in the top 75:

2008 Oilers draft

  • Jordan Eberle selected #22 overall, ranked #29

2009 Oilers draft

  • Magnus Paajarvi selected #10 overall, ranked #10
  • Anton Lander selected #40 overall, ranked HM
  • Troy Hesketh selected #71 overall, unranked

2010 Oilers draft

  • Taylor Hall selected #1, ranked #1
  • Tyler Pitlick selected #31, ranked #25
  • Martin Marincin selected #56, ranked #71
  • Curtis Hamilton selected #48, ranked 57
  • Ryan Martindale selected #61, ranked 58

2011 Oilers draft

  • Ryan Nugent Hopkins selected #1, ranked #1
  • Oscar Klefbom selected #19, ranked #21
  • David Musil selected #31, ranked #41
  • Samu Perhonen selected #62, ranked #51
  • Travis Ewanyk selected #74, ranked HM

2012 Oilers draft

  • Nail Yakupov selected #1, ranked #1
  • Mitchell Moroz selected #32, ranked #56
  • Jujhar Khaira selected #63, not ranked

I think the Oilers may move down to the teens if there’s enough value there. Just a hunch. They have three picks in the top 60 but then they wait through the third and fourth rounds (a lot of value there) until they pick again.

THE LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

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This morning at 10, the Lowdown with Lowetide will be on Team 1260. We’ll talk about the MacT media conference this afternoon, the week ahead and the draft. Scheduled to appear:

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135 Responses to "IT’S MORNING IN OILERS NATION"

  1. Ca$h-Money! says:

    Oilers will get Lindholm with 7… or will pass on him. Poor Lindholm…. it sure seems like everyone is saying “yeah, he’s good… but I like someone else better”. Guy had an NHLe of 40! And is constantly described as 2 way… and has been clear with everyone (as have the people around him) that he’s a center.

    I really hope we get him.

  2. theres oil in virginia says:

    Thank god you’re awake. Damn east coast time! You know, if people aren’t “reading your blog posts”, making it a mile long isn’t going to help. (heehee – just teasing.)

    I don’t see how the Oilers will get Gagner for 4-point-anything. Couture’s extension will pay him $6M per year.

  3. DBO says:

    Dustin Nielson ‏@nielson1260 9m
    On the show this morning Dreger told us that MacTavish could end up being the most active GM in the next few days. Buckle up folks
    Retweeted by Lowetide

    why am I so excited about this? Get moving already!!!!

  4. slopitch says:

    I read the blog. I try to time the morning coffee around it!

    So many decisions to be made. Sometimes I start thinking about Oilers options and cant fall asleep. Cant imagine MacT sleeps more then 4 hours a night.

    I do wonder if Nichuskin slips to 7. He could be a decent 2LW by end of season. If I’m the Oilers I keep the pick and gamble he slides. If he doesn’t, then move the pick for help. I look at Chicago and I know we don’t have the D of Keith and Seabrooks caliber but Hall, Nuge, Ebs and Yak are gonna make some loud noise. And soon.

    As for your list: To me the order of importance is 1 & 9 followed by a huge gap then the rest. I guess the rest will happen and they are important. Its just that the rest offer more options that are fairly interchangeable.

  5. jonrmcleod says:

    Out of that list of FA forwards, I think Neal and Oshie are the most attractive options. But I’m guessing someone will offer Neal a crazy deal, and Oshie might prefer a U.S. team. I can also see Oshie getting a huge deal.

  6. jonrmcleod says:

    Disregard that above comment. I see now that Oshie isn’t a FA. Edit: And neither is Neal. (I guess I should have checked Capgeek before I commented.)

  7. Lowetide says:

    sorry, should have made clear. Some of those fellows are trade items.

  8. Lowetide says:

    Clutterbuck might be willing to sign a cap-friendly one-year deal, but he also has value on the trade market. One team hot after him is Edmonton; the Wild has talked to the Oilers about a deal that would include Minnesotan Tyler Pitlick.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/wild/212851501.html

    They’re breaking up the 2010 draft. Dammit! I’ll have to start obsessing over the 2011 draft!

  9. jonrmcleod says:

    What does everyone think of the Oiler’s rumoured interest in Pascal Clutterbuck? Edit: I see LT beat me to it. Not the greatest commenting day for me.

  10. VanOil says:

    I will tub thump as always for Shawn Matthias as 2LW. But more interesting from Florida is Kulikov, it was rumored he was available at the trade deadline. If Colorado do as they say and pass on Jones, does Florida take him and if so does Kulikov become available again? It will be an interesting week some calming jazz to start it of was a good call LT.

  11. DBO says:

    More smoke around Coburn. Now Clutterbuck and earlier Smith. That would be 3 interesting trades, that while not all of us would be happy with, but they would address a bunch of our needs, at reasonable prices and change the team a lot.

    To sum up:
    Hemsky for Smith (overpay, but a 3rd line centre with size, grit and enough skill)
    Pitlick for Clutterbuck (solid move if true. Depends maybe on deal Clutterbuck signs and the hug it out that has to happen with Hall. I hate CLutterbuck, unless he is on our team)
    ??? for Coburn – I speculated on Friday about wanting him. Mentioned Potter and the 7th for Coburn and the 11th. If that is the deal then great. Yes Coburn has flaws, but he is a decent price, with size and enough skill to play top 2 for us.
    Sign Gagner to under $5 mill per

    So if they did all of those:

    Hall-Nuge-Eberle
    ???-Gagner-Yak
    Paajarvi-Smith-Clutterbuck
    Smyth-???-Brown

    Coburn-Petry
    Smid-Shultz
    Shultz-Belov

    Solid start to the year. Better balance, although Horc at 3C would look nice, but I understand why he has to go.

  12. Truth says:

    I’d do Clutterbuck for Pitlick plus all day. I think he would be a great addition to the 3rd line, maybe one of the best possible additions they could do for the bottom 6. Excellent news.

  13. theres oil in virginia says:

    jonrmcleod,

    I like the idea of getting Clutterbuck. The guy’s a competitor and an actual hockey player. (Although, I do think it’s a joke that he doesn’t get called for more penalties. I also think that not calling those penalties leads to players – ahem, Taylor Hall, ahem – taking matters into their own hands.)

    Hall and Clutterbuck on the same team would be phenomenal. However, Clutterbuck for Pitlick + … that’s going to have to be a significant plus to swing that deal.

  14. sliderule says:

    This draft is supposed to be deep into second round.

    Could you ask Guy what centers will be there in that round who might fit with oil needs.

    You can never have too many center prospects

  15. speeds says:

    Q’s for Guy:

    (1) What kind of chance does he think there is Petan goes notably higher than he’s being projected? Top 10? Top 15?

    (2) If he had to pick a top rated player or two that’s likely to slide, who would that be? And who does he think might surprise and go notably higher than projected?

  16. markasread1199 says:

    Great post LT. I’m so excited for this off season. So many options! Just CRAZY. Awesome choice on the song too. Diana Krall can sing in my ear anytime she wants. Mercy.

    When the 8th overall comes are we going to be satisfied? If Monahan is there at 7 take him.

  17. Rondo says:

    DBO,

    Coburn is a good skater with very little offense and a decent defender . Philly should desperate for D-men , they have been horrible in that department. Giving up on Coburn should raise some red flags. He should be in his prime.

  18. bookje says:

    My Gagner prediction.

    4 years $4.8 per year.

    Move to wing

    Made Captain. (That’s my reach pick)

  19. Rondo says:

    Here is an article on Braydon Coburn

    http://flyersfaithful.com/2013/04/11/five-questions-fixing-the-flyers/

    “Trade Braydon Coburn. His overall level of play has gotten steadily worse over the last few seasons, but he is still well regarded among many clubs and has value. They probably could have gotten a better return if they moved him at the trade deadline, but of course, he was injured just like half of the roster.”

    Braydon Coburn is a $3,200,000 cap hit and overrated. With a seemingly high opinion around the league, Coburn would be a good trade piece before his $5,500,000 contract for the 2013-14 kicks in

  20. wheatnoil says:

    Ca$h-Money!:
    Oilers will get Lindholm with 7… or will pass on him.Poor Lindholm….it sure seems like everyone is saying “yeah, he’s good… but I like someone else better”.Guy had an NHLe of 40!And is constantly described as 2 way…and has been clear with everyone (as have the people around him) that he’s a center.

    I really hope we get him.

    I agree! I mean, an NHL-E of 40 is elite in any draft year, and a team could get him at 7? Or lower? That’s insane! Now, I accept the argument that the NHL-E equation for European leagues is out-dated, but even so, that’s tough to pass up on outside of the Top 5. He may not end up playing centre, true, but if Monahan’s not on the board…

  21. wheatnoil says:

    Rondo:
    Here is an article on Braydon Coburn

    http://flyersfaithful.com/2013/04/11/five-questions-fixing-the-flyers/

    “Trade Braydon Coburn. His overall level of play has gotten steadily worse over the last few seasons, but he is still well regarded among many clubs and has value. They probably could have gotten a better return if they moved him at the trade deadline, but of course, he was injured just like half of the roster.”

    Braydon Coburn is a $3,200,000 cap hit and overrated. With a seemingly high opinion around the league, Coburn would be a good trade piece before his $5,500,000 contract for the 2013-14 kicks in

    According to Behind the Net (min. 20 games played), Coburn had poor possession numbers (6/7 in RelCorsi) and faced middle-of-the-road competition, but he also faced the hardest zone starts by far (40.5% offensive zone) and had the worst PDO on the team. He was also trusted enough to lead the defense in 5 on 5 and PK minutes. The low PDO may lead to him being undervalued. For what it’s worth, a guy who gets the worst zone starts and leads the team in 5 on 5 and PK is at least trusted by the coach.

    I’d say he’s a good starting point for a defensive acquisition at least.

    (Edit: I should note that in the 2011/12 season, Coburn faced the strongest quality of competition and had a more middle-of-the-road zone start as well as a better PDO and was able to saw off pretty well even on the possession numbers… not bad given the quality of competition.)

  22. sliderule says:

    Over at oilers website they have some mock drafts from media guys.

    It will be interesting to see if they have any insight from talking to Stu and some of his scouts.

    They all had Lazar and Horvat higher than the bureaus.

  23. FrankenOil says:

    LT,

    Can you ask Guy for a list of WHL overagers available for the draft that he sees as being draftable? Brock Otten does a great job on his blog (OHL Prospects) for the OHL and I am wondering if there is an Andrew Shaw type in the WHL for us to consider. With the Oilers possibly dangling Pitlick, Harti bolting and the unfortunate passing of Pelss, OKC is going to need some forwards.

    Also, can you ask him if he’s heard anything on Stephane Legault, Edgars Kulda, Ashton Sautner or Cody Corbett being drafted? And if there is any word on a pro deal or invite for TJ Foster?

    Thanks!

  24. wheatnoil says:

    Hmmm… on further investigation, it appears Coburn has some concerning WOWY numbers. Players appear to have better possession numbers without him than with him. Even with zone-start adjusted CORSI, only 7 of 18 (min 25 minutes) players were better with Coburn than without. In 2011/12, the number is even worse with only 6 of 20 being better with Coburn. This last year his most common D-partner was Grossman and Grossman had a slightly better zone-adjusted CORSI Percentage without Coburn than with (48.9 vs 46.7). In 2011/12 his most common partner was Timonen, who also had a better corsi % without him than with him (55.8 vs 53.5).

    That gives me some pause for the pro-Coburn bandwagon. He’s still easily in the Oilers Top 4 (who isn’t?) but asset cost and future cap hit needs to be managed.

  25. gangplank says:

    LT why are you so bullish on Lazar and Horvat. Scott’s work over at C&B doesnt show them in a positive light.

  26. gangplank says:

    Interesting to see Dan Tencer and Stauffer both having either or both pretty high on their mock drafts

  27. Rondo says:

    wheatnoil,

    I think Coburn is that player fans in Philly hope they get rid of, they think he is overrated and hope other teams don’t know that.

    Every team has those types of players even Edmonton, fans know player x is overrated lets trade him.

  28. Jesse says:

    It’s funny… I’ve been feeling like this year if the Oilers don’t deal the pick it would be a shame if they came away with anything other than Monahan. But I was asking Corey Pronman about Nurse and he said he would prefer him over Griffin Reinhart. Last year we were discussing Reinhart as a possible 1OV (albeit a significant reach). Pronman said that Nurse was a much better skater than Reinhart as well. I think if the Oilers can get a player in a year that they “fell” out the top 5 that is essentially a top 5 pick in a regular year that’s gotta be considered a very nice selection.

  29. rickithebear says:

    sliderule: Could you ask Guy what centers will be there in that round who might fit with oil needs.

    MacT wants a pocession retention team.

    Pocession achieved in Ozone yields a shot 50% of the time.
    all others requiring O zone entry 37%.
    Thus faceoff are damn important!

    A 39% faceoff payer is a winger asked to play
    center.

    Hall-XXX-Gagner
    RNH-XXX-Eberle
    MP-XXX-Yakupov
    Smyth-XXX-Rajala

    Centers with High
    face-off %
    Takeaway/MIN
    Takeaway/Giveaway ratio

    Toews
    bergeron
    Halpern
    GORDON
    Vermette
    Datsyuk
    Statsny
    BELANGER
    Kopitar
    Kesler
    WEISS
    REASONER
    O’Rielly
    BOZAK
    E. Staal
    Goc
    Hanzal
    Dubinsky
    Kelly
    Boyle
    Couture
    Tavares
    Duchene
    K.WELLWOOD
    Johansen
    Z. Smith
    Pavelski
    Backes
    Zajac
    Filpula

    Ours
    Belanger 55%

    UFA
    Gordon 58%
    K. Wellwood 54%
    Weiss 53%
    Reasoner 53%
    Bozak 53%
    Filpulla 51%

    Rumored available
    Z.Smith 53%
    Dubinsky 52%
    R. johanssen 51%

    A while back there were constant complaints of taking centers.
    if you cannot win face-offs centers become wingers.
    Cogliano
    Gagner
    RNH 40% ?????

  30. sliderule says:

    gangplank,

    Scotts work was crap.

    He picked out draft spots that were confined then didn’t choose position just all forwards.

    Players like Bergeron,and Jordan Staal and Getslaf who had similar stats and position were left out.

    In his second part he used plus minus to discredit Horvat without considering zone starts ,,shut down center and who you are playing with.

    Same plus minus evaluation had Domi looking really good and he is considered by scouts as weak defensively and didn’t play much if any center.

    He went to a lot of work to prove junk in equals junk out.

  31. VanOil says:

    TSN is saying Samwise has been offered an extension, no details. #1 off LT’s to do list this morning.
    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426265

  32. Bag of Pucks says:

    LT circa 06.25.13 “The point is that when Edmonton had a challenge of the same importance in 2011 summer–a legit top 4D–they chose Cam Barker. That’s a poor bet leaving the station.”

    LT circa 07.02.2011 “The 11-12 season is probably a reasonable time to invest in a guy like Barker. He isn’t the top 4 option we were hoping for, but he should be better than he was a year ago.”

    I tend to agree with your former assessment of this transaction. The org was actively trying to finish low in the standings to accumulate high draft picks. The Barker signing was, as many described it at the time, a reasonable flyer on a player with draft pedigree in the hope that he’d find new life in EDM. More than anything, he was a warm pylon that fit the primary needs of keeping salary overheads low while ensuring the tank job.

  33. FrankenOil says:

    Kevin Paul Dupont ‏@GlobeKPD 10m

    Move all 3. RT @dy2ski:@GlobeKPD Besides obvious(not signing Horton) do you sign Ference or go w/rooks? Trade Sequin while value is highest?

    Anyone out there still believe the Oilers made the wrong call?

  34. rickithebear says:

    Of the top 30 Even min players wellwood played within the last 5 years only 3 had better results without him.
    Burrows and Hansen played with the Sedins on the wing.

  35. hunter1909 says:

    I couldn’t care less about anything to do with the Oilers right now, but happy as anything to change bandwagons once I understood that Seguin could claim to be on a team as great as the 1970-72 Orr/Esposito era Bruins, instead of preparing to be run out of Boston on a rail probably sometime during the next twelve calendar months.

    Hawks could score and by the end of the series Boston looked like a bunch of low skill grinders, and nothing else.

  36. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Wayne in the Black Hat. My kind of icon!

    The Searchers is phenomenal. Great flic for the summer nights.

    Allow me to recommend an often overlooked Wayne-Ford collaboration: “The Long Voyage Home” (1940). Wayne plays a Swede fairly convincingly and the whole ensemble cast is stellar (Lots of old Ford hands in there).

    Of note, Gregg Toland, the cinematographer on the picture used a lot of the same techniques (deep focus, etc.) that he made famous a year later in Citizen Kane

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Toland

  37. Truth says:

    FrankenOil,

    What was also interesting is the comments Seguin made post game yesterday regarding his hip injury.

    Joe McDonald ‏@ESPNJoeyMac 12h
    Seguin admits: “I’ve had same problems [hip] my whole life. I didn’t say anything last year, so I don’t want to say anything yet.”

    I’ll take Taylor Hall’s reckless style and injuries that go with it over Seguin’s congenital hip issues. Unfortunate for Seguin though, last year’s playoffs he looked excellent.

  38. jake70 says:

    Clutterbuck – I listened to a Hockey Central at Noon interview with him about a month ago. Discussing getting a deal worked out with Wild – He was pretty sure they would get something done, really liked playing and living there. Players always respond with those answers but his tone/delivery was pretty convincing/confident he wouldn’t be going anywhere. Things change however, ask Krueger.

  39. justDOit says:

    Thehockeywriters say that Letang is available at the right price, and with one more year at $3.5M would be perfect for the Oilers. That also means that he won’t come cheap, and he’ll be looking at a significant raise in ’14/’15 as a UFA (I think…).

    They suggest that Nashville is a good fit, but I have all the confidence in MacT to work some Sather-like magic.

    http://thehockeywriters.com/are-the-predators-in-on-letang/

  40. Captain Obvious says:

    Coburn is a solid player. He had an even shot differential with poor zone starts on a mediocre corsi team. He’s worth his contract. So long as the price isn’t too high this would be a very good get for the Oilers.

  41. jonrmcleod says:

    I keep hearing rumors about Seguin. The Bruins wouldn’t give him up, would they?

  42. Ryan says:

    No idea who he is, but Chris Nichols has been quoted about a deal involving Cal Clusterbuck heading to the Oilers: https://twitter.com/Nichols_NHLPool/statuses/349354303053496321

  43. spoiler says:

    http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/story/?id=426239

    Roy would take MacKinnon first, ranks Drouin second and Barkov third. Presumably Jones 4th.

    I’m laughing my ass off because I sent my list into LT this morning and that’s the exact order I have these players. I thought I was crazy ranking them that way…

  44. justDOit says:

    This is great stuff – and why I couldn’t wait for the SCFs to conclude. Breezeglovehand is getting bought out:

    http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=675163

  45. HugThePost says:

    LT,
    we all have our list of things we think MacT needs to get done this summer.

    But, even the most optimistic of us would probably admit it might take divine intervention for him to get the entire laundry list completed in one year.

    What would you define as a successful summer for MacT realistically speaking.

  46. Ryan says:

    HugThePost:
    LT,
    we all have our list of things we think MacT needs to get done this summer.

    But, even the most optimistic of us would probably admit it might take divine intervention for him to get the entire laundry list completed in one year.

    What would you define as a successful summer for MacT realistically speaking.

    The list does indeed look very long, the important part is starting at the top. i.e. 2 LW / top 4 D

  47. Jon K says:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426277

    Report: Kipper to retire, Flames in denial.

  48. Truth says:

    Ryan,

    I believe he is citing the same source and article as Stauffer, Michael Russo @Russostrib. This would be a significant step forward for the OIl, IMO.

  49. Ryan says:

    Truth,

    Yeah, it looks like he is. Sorry for the old news :)

    I always start reading the comments here from the bottom for some reason.

    Yeah, Clutterbuck’s a huge pain in the … Would be nice to see him in Oil silks. :)

  50. Ryan says:

    Truth,

    Yeah, it looks like he is. Sorry for the old news :)

    I always start reading the comments here from the bottom for some reason.

    Yeah, Clutterbuck’s a huge pain in the … Would be nice to see him in an Oilers jersy. :)

  51. justDOit says:

    Jon K:
    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426277

    Report: Kipper to retire, Flames in denial.

    Well, de Bow has looked like de Nile for a few days now.

  52. Truth says:

    If Seth Jones ever fell to Nashville they would be incredibly deep at D. Shea Weber and two other potential #1 D’s in Josi and Jones. It would be a perfect storm for a blockbuster with the Oilers.

  53. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Hey LT,

    The “Gimme Shelter” Montage (which Ron nicely called “Canada’s Winter Shelter”) was awesome!

    But did anyone else find the clips of the Leafs gratuitous? They got more play than even the Sens who actually lasted a lot longer and could have the right to command some stupid Canadian content bs.

  54. Jordan says:

    Truth,

    If the Oilers managed to find a way to trade with Nashville in that scenario and got Seth Jones…. would that count as 4 first overall’s in a row?

  55. Andropod says:

    Can anyone tell me which radio station or provide me with a URL to listen into today’s presser with MacT?

  56. godot10 says:

    Truth:
    If Seth Jones ever fell to Nashville they would be incredibly deep at D.Shea Weber and two other potential #1 D’s in Josi and Jones.It would be a perfect storm for a blockbuster with the Oilers.

    In that case, Jones falls to Carolina, IMHO.

    Scenario:
    1) MacKinnon
    2) Barkov
    3) Drouin
    4) Monahan
    5) Jones
    6) Lindholm
    7) Oilers take Nurse or Nichushkin, or trade Nichushkin to Philadelphia for Courturier, or Laughton and #11 for Nichushkin and the Oilers 2nd round.

    Nashville is taking a centre. I’ll bet a loonie on it.

  57. fifthcartel says:

    Andropod,

    It’ll probably be on the Oilers website, at 1pm I think. I’ll try and post a link when they set it up.

  58. justDOit says:

    Not to piss off LT, but I believe Stauffer will cover it: http://player.630ched.com/

  59. hunter1909 says:

    If MacT is anywhere near the horse trader either Sather(80′s) or even KLowe(Pronger) has been, then Seth Jones is coming to E-Town and will cause the Avs fits for the next decade.

    So far MacT has talked the talk(Lowe’s specialty).

  60. hunter1909 says:

    MacT trades the 7th pick away for a pair of late 1st rounders. Hilarity ensured for upcoming season.

  61. Beaker says:

    godot10: In that case, Jones falls to Carolina, IMHO.

    Scenario:
    1) MacKinnon
    2) Barkov
    3) Drouin
    4) Monahan
    5) Jones
    6) Lindholm
    7) Oilers take Nurse or Nichushkin, or trade Nichushkin to Philadelphia for Courturier, or Laughton and #11 for Nichushkin and the Oilers 2nd round.

    Nashville is taking a centre.I’ll bet a loonie on it.

    Read something on twitter where Poile was quoted as saying he would straight up take Jones if he was there at 4.

  62. Hammers says:

    LT , Now I know why I agree with most of your comments . Your a John Wayne fan as am I . Searchers one of the best cowboy films ever. Who are the assistant coaches goiing to be .Keep Smith add Acton & Maurice ???

  63. Hammers says:

    Also Bucky stays as a member of the old boys club but not as a coach .

  64. rickithebear says:

    Truth:
    Ryan,

    I believe he is citing the same source and article as Stauffer, Michael Russo @Russostrib. This would be a significant step forward for the OIl, IMO.

    Yes a player who late hits and has zero chance of those hits being allowed in olier silks.

    a wimp who rolled around on the ice and had to be carried off for a charlie Hoarse.

    We want to win a Cup.
    You know play in the final with two wrecked shoulders;
    Block a puck with your face kind of tough.

    If I am Hall who lays it all out on the line and that wimp comes in; I ask to be traded.

    Some people have not Clue!

  65. spoiler says:

    Here are the comments from Poile on Jones and the draft:

    http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/sports/predators-willing-use-first-round-pick-one-particular-defenseman

    Taking Jones allows them to divest themselves of the Weber contract either later this summer or over the next couple of years… and re-stock the Forward cupboard that way.

  66. LostBoy says:

    Is it really certain in everyone’s mind that next season will see Hall-Nuge-Eberle together? It’s a microscopic sample, but Yakupov went off the charts in the last handful of games playing with Hall (with, uh, Horcoff at C). Seems to me that if you’re thinking in pairs with a complementary third, Nuge-Ebs is a natural pair and Hall-Yakupov looks like the other. No disrespect to Gagner who I’d prefer to see signed long term, but the natural complements are a big PF LW for Nuge-Ebs and a big faceoff-winning R-hand C for Hall-Yak.

  67. spoiler says:

    1 hour ago

    @TSNRyanRishaug: Am told talks are progressing on the Gagner front, but still lots to get done. As @DarrenDreger reported earlier, multi year offer on table.


    Again not much there. I’m guessing there’s 3, 4, and 5 year offers on the table, all with different price points.

    Newport’s Pat Morris is Gagner’s agent, is he not?

  68. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Grapes must be losing his mind.

    MacT talking about importance of passing and possession over “dump outs”

  69. striatic says:

    sounds like the walkabout is over.

  70. Henry says:

    I have a ton of confidence in MacT. I hope he doesn’t talk to much with Lou though.

  71. striatic says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    MacT talking about importance of passing and possession over “dump outs”

    most refreshing thing he’s said in his brief tenure as GM.

  72. Lucinius says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Er… he’s already lost his mind.

    This’ll just get him foaming at the mouth.

  73. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    why don’t they bother to mic the questions at these things?

  74. spoiler says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Dump outs.

    I don’t think Grapes has too many problems with carrying the puck out of your own end, when and if you can.

    MacT made the same point in an earlier presser.

  75. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Loved MacT’s comments about late round picks… stick skill is key… higher up-side all through the draft. looking for a range of skill.

  76. striatic says:

    spoiler: I don’t think Grapes has too many problems with carrying the puck out of your own end, when and if you can.

    MacT was also saying that the 3rd and 4th line has to be able to do zone entry without chip and chase.

  77. justDOit says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    The Eakins presser had a mic for the questions, which I had hoped was the start of something beautiful.

  78. RMGS says:

    My optimistic interpretation (and projections) of the MacT presser:

    - the team’s keeping the pick at 7 and will choose Monahan or Lindholm
    - 89′s going to be signed to a five year contract
    - trades will trump UFA signings to fill the need for skilled two-way forwards with size in bottom 6
    - the Kaptain’s on his way out as soon as they find a taker
    - at least one of “The Untouchable” Buchberger and Smith is being replaced, and an associate coach is on the way as well
    - MacT would not have drafted Moroz, Ewanyk, etc, aka “picks projected to be role players, at best”

    The man’s singing (mostly) music to my ears!

  79. spoiler says:

    striatic: MacT was also saying that the 3rd and 4th line has to be able to do zone entry without chip and chase.

    All lines need to be capable of doing both, so the opposition D can’t key on one strategy.

  80. RexLibris says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Loved MacT’s comments about late round picks… stick skill is key… higher up-side all through the draft. looking for a range of skill.

    So we could assume that MacTavish would have taken Frk over Moroz?

    *^&#^@

  81. RexLibris says:

    spoiler: All lines need to be capable of doing both, so the opposition D can’t key on one strategy.

    Take that comment in combination with Eakins’ comment on a playbook approach to offensive zone entries and I think we may just be seeing the beginning of a thinking man’s team.

  82. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    spoiler:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Dump outs.

    I don’t think Grapes has too many problems with carrying the puck out of your own end, when and if you can.

    Maybe you missed the last decade where he has repeatedly praised the dump out up the glass and denigrated pass outs, cherry picking turnovers and seemingly forgetting that every single dump out is by definition a turnover, i.e., the exact opposite of what MacT just said he valued

  83. Truth says:

    rickithebear: Yes a player who late hits and has zero chance of those hits being allowed in olier silks.

    a wimp who rolled around on the ice and had to be carried off for a charlie Hoarse.

    We want to win a Cup.
    You know play in the final with two wrecked shoulders;
    Block a puck with your face kind of tough.

    If I am Hall who lays it all out on the line and that wimp comes in; I ask to be traded.

    Some people have not Clue!

    Clearly you haven’t played much competitive hockey. A severe charley horse is incredibly painful, especially to put any weight on it. I’ve broken a lot of bones, even playing hockey, and a bad charley horse is sometimes worse to immediately stand on. If you are concerned that Clutterbuck stayed down after getting a charley horse (that kept him out of the lineup for a number of games following) in the final minutes of a mean-nothing game than it is quite obvious you are reaching for reasons to justify your dislike for him.

    I guarantee you Hall is happier with Clutterbuck on his team than to play against him. Did you watch what happened just prior to the cup being presented last night? The teams have no problems shaking hands and giving eachother a quick hug mere minutes after wanting to take eachothers heads off. Again, clearly you’ve never played competitive hockey.

    Are there any stats for a star player’s appreciation of his GM putting together a team that will compete every night?

  84. spoiler says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Maybe you missed the last decade where he has repeatedly praised the dump out up the glass and denigrated pass outs, cherry picking turnovers and seemingly forgetting that every single dump out is by definition a turnover, i.e., the exact opposite of what MacT just said he valued

    Please re-read the “when and if you can” bit…. It must have slipped by.

    If you are in trouble in your own end, get the puck the frick out. Don’t think Quenneville had too many problems with the Stanley Cup Champions doing that last night. Giveaways in the neutral zone with the whole team between puck and net are far better than giveaways in your own end. Cherry doesn’t have the TV time to show all the smart efficient breakouts. He will however show goals resulting from bad decision-making.

  85. spoiler says:

    RexLibris: So we could assume that MacTavish would have taken Frk over Moroz?*^&#^@

    Yeah, I really don’t want to think too closely about that one either. Need both my ears to remain attached to my head, and I don’t think they’d survive the explosion. Loved Frk. And although he’s playing with two demigods, he still looks good this year. Frkin’ Detroit.

  86. spoiler says:

    @TSNBobMcKenzie: Reports suggest STL and Patrik Berglund on verge of one-year extension for $3.25M.

  87. wordbird says:

    agreed. Hall/Yak and… Nuge in the middle?

    which means who centres Ebs/Gags (assuming #89 moves to wing)?

    LostBoy:
    Is it really certain in everyone’s mind that next season will see Hall-Nuge-Eberle together?It’s a microscopic sample, but Yakupov went off the charts in the last handful of games playing with Hall (with, uh, Horcoff at C).Seems to me that if you’re thinking in pairs with a complementary third, Nuge-Ebs is a natural pair and Hall-Yakupov looks like the other.No disrespect to Gagner who I’d prefer to see signed long term, but the natural complements are a big PF LW for Nuge-Ebs and a big faceoff-winning R-hand C for Hall-Yak.

  88. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    spoiler: Please re-read the “when and if you can” bit…. It must have slipped by.

    If you are in trouble in your own end, get the puck the frick out.Don’t think Quenneville had too many problems with the Stanley Cup Champions doing that last night.Giveaways in the neutral zone with the whole team between puck and net are far better than giveaways in your own end. Cherry doesn’t have the TV time to show all the smart efficient breakouts.He will however show goals resulting from bad decision-making.

    Yes. I read it.

    And. there is a material difference between “options of last resort” and “vocational best practices.”

    The “dump out” for Cherry clearly falls into the latter category.

    No one is arguing that given a choice between two terrible options the least terrible option is better. This is a non-issue.

  89. striatic says:

    MacT says we are interested in guys 27, 28, 29 years old.

    so i ask you ..

    pick one LW:

    Guillaume Latendresse
    Viktor Stalberg
    Bryan Bickell
    Clarke MacArthur
    Valtteri Filppula

  90. gcw_rocks says:

    So if the wild buyout Gilbert then MacT should stay away because he was bought out by a divisional rival?

  91. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Interesting thing from the Torts presser.

    q: “have you ever heard of advanced stats websites like behindthenet.ca?”
    a: “no”

  92. striatic says:

    wordbird: which means who centres Ebs/Gags (assuming #89 moves to wing)

    Gagner shoots right. if he’s moving to the wing, it won’t be the left. Ebs already fills the RW slot.

  93. Captain Happy says:

    spoiler:
    @TSNBobMcKenzie: Reports suggest STL and Patrik Berglund on verge of one-year extension for $3.25M.

    There’s your Gagner comparable.

  94. spoiler says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Yes. I read it.

    And. there is a material difference between “options of last resort” and “vocational best practices.”

    The “dump out” for Cherry clearly falls into the latter category.

    Really, because you say so? Alrightey then.

  95. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Captain Happy: There’s your Gagner comparable.

    one year removed.

  96. godot10 says:

    spoiler:
    @TSNBobMcKenzie: Reports suggest STL and Patrik Berglund on verge of one-year extension for $3.25M.

    So that Doug Armstrong had the same problem with Bergland than Tambellini had with Gagner make him an idiot also? The Berglund contract pattern is identical to Gagner’s, with almost identical salary numbers.

    One of the smarter GM’s in the league couldn’t induce a player two years away from UFA status to sign a long term cap friendly home town discount.

  97. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    spoiler: Really, because you say so?Alrightey then.

    because he says so.

    what’s the objection here? You don’t think it’s a fair reading of Cherry? or you think the dump out game is really great?

  98. godot10 says:

    gcw_rocks:
    So if the wild buyout Gilbert then MacT should stay away because he was bought out by a divisional rival?

    The Wild are not in the Oilers division.

  99. spoiler says:

    Captain Happy: There’s your Gagner comparable.

    Yup, it looks dead on Gagner’s contract last year… same distance from UFA status. Kind of shows Tambo wasn’t such an idiot on that one.

  100. godot10 says:

    The Oilers are now relatively free to make deals with Minnesota and Colorado. Which means Paul Stastny does become a possible option, particularly if the Avalanche draft MacKinnon.

  101. spoiler says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: because he says so.

    what’s the objection here? You don’t think it’s a fair reading of Cherry? or you think the dump out game is really great?

    I think it is a horribly biased reading of Cherry. But then, I’ve seen him coach.

  102. Numenius says:

    wordbird:
    agreed. Hall/Yak and… Nuge in the middle?

    which means who centres Ebs/Gags (assuming #89 moves to wing)?

    You keep Nuge and Ebs together. Gags either plays between Hall/Yak, or drops to the 3rd line, or gets traded.

    Given how well Hall/Yak did with Horcoff on the first line, I don’t think it’d be necessary to insist on having an elite skilled and gritty 1st line center, as long as he wins faceoffs and is good with possession generally. Hall and Yak make up for any skill deficiencies.

    Makes me think keeping Horcoff for the role would be ideal (if he hadn’t asked for a trade).

  103. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    spoiler: I think it is a horribly biased reading of Cherry.But then, I’ve seen him coach.

    Fair enough.

    Maybe I took his hyperbole too seriously.

    I’ll be on the look-out for his praise of the passing and possession game in the future. Apparently, I missed it.

  104. spoiler says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Fair enough.

    Maybe I took his hyperbole to seriously.

    I’ll be on the look-out for his praise of the passing and possession game in the future. Apparently, I missed it.

    Just watch any clip he shows of Orr. Those clips are regular and frequent examples of such praise.

  105. striatic says:

    Numenius: Given how well Hall/Yak did with Horcoff on the first line

    small, small, small sample size you’re working with there.

    not something i’d want to bet a season on.

  106. striatic says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: I’ll be on the look-out for his praise of the passing and possession game in the future. Apparently, I missed it.

    i haven’t seen him praise breakout passes much, but he does seem to like skating it out.

    his philosophy behind breakouts seems to be to get the puck out of the zone as safely as possible. sometimes that means chipping the puck out. sometimes it means skating it out. sometimes it means short support passes. sometimes, most rarely, it involves longer breakout passes.

    the philosophy seems to be avoiding turnovers in danger areas at *all costs*, including the possible cost of turning the puck over in a less dangerous area.

  107. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    spoiler: Just watch any clip he shows of Orr. Those clips are regular and frequent examples of such praise.

    Indeed, but I’ve always understood his love of Orr (and his modern version, say Doughty) to be idiosyncratic to the player and his particular abilities and not a matter of coaching philosophy.

    Obviously, different talents and situations lead to drawing up different break out plays.

    MacT expressly discussed building a team with the ability to pass and/or carry out and into zones and maximize possession.

    That seems to me on first blush like quite the opposite of Cherry’s affinity for dump out on the glass hockey and dump in and chase hockey.

  108. justDOit says:

    spoiler: Just watch any clip he shows of Orr. Those clips are regular and frequent examples of such praise.

    I see those clips as praise of the best athlete to ever wear skates, not necessarily Cherry’s coaching philosophy. If someone could wade through the Coach’s Coroner vault and count how many instances he’s bellowed, “OFF THE GLASS AND OUT”, it would lead any sane person to suggest a puck possession game isn’t his forte.

  109. justDOit says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    You could write obits and they would seem rosey!

  110. Undisclosed_Personal_Reasons says:

    spoiler:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Dump outs.

    I don’t think Grapes has too many problems with carrying the puck out of your own end, when and if you can.

    MacT made the same point in an earlier presser.

    I think this a completely fair assessment.

  111. striatic says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Indeed, but I’ve always understood his love of Orr (and his modern version, say Doughty) to be idiosyncratic to the player and his particular abilities and not a matter of coaching philosophy.

    i think it relates to his philosophy in the sense that these players are able to exit the zone *safely* through the use of their skating skill.

    the philosophy being that so long as the puck isn’t allowed into a dangerous area, it doesn’t matter so much that you don’t have possession of the puck, so long as the puck is “safe”.

    you aren’t allowed to hit guys unless they have the puck. so i think part of why Cherry likes giving up the puck sometimes in the o-zone is because you get to hit and “wear down” the person collecting it.

    personally, i think this is a poor philosophy, but it is more of an overall philosophy than “chip it out, chip it in” even though the philosophy does lead to a lot of that.

  112. RexLibris says:

    Jon K:
    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426277

    Report: Kipper to retire, Flames in denial.

    That last bit is something of an altruism isn’t it?

  113. hunter1909 says:

    Trade garbage for Chris Stewart. Point out to the Blues what a floater he is.

  114. Numenius says:

    RexLibris: That last bit is something of an altruism isn’t it?

    Um. Not to be dick, but I think you mean a ‘truism’.

  115. Bar_Qu says:

    RexLibris: That last bit is something of an altruism isn’t it?

    Numenius: Um. Not to be dick, but I think you mean a ‘truism’.

    Unless he meant altruistic. Which is understandable since the Flames are in the habit of giving good things away without expecting anything back.

  116. jesse r says:

    Numenius,

    Well you could probably argue that there is some altruism in letting the Flames be in denial.

  117. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Truth: Unfortunate for Seguin though, last year’s playoffs he looked excellent.

    Tyler Seguin scored 3 goals in his first 2 career playoff games, & another 3 in his next 40.

  118. rickithebear says:

    Truth: Clearly you haven’t played much competitive hockey. A severe charley horse is incredibly painful, especially to put any weight on it. I’ve broken a lot of bones, even playing hockey, and a bad charley horse is sometimes worse to immediately stand on

    No i have not played competiitve Hockey. Summer league in PA. Yes!
    Can I skate all that well no!
    Ken Thompson did teach me to try to meet my hand on the other side of the skull.

    As for Charlie Hoarse.
    This is the pro’s!
    DMSO and pain injections deal with that in less than 24 hr’s

    in high level play you have the ability to blockout pain
    Like hobbling arounfd for a large portion of a half with a broken ankle.
    Adrenalin is amazing.
    Stitches on the bench for a cut or sidelines to reattach an ear till you can properly address it post game.

    A charlie hoarse!
    There is a reason some players with great talent do not make it.
    if you cannot handle pain you cannot properly train or compete.
    You r words say so miuch!

    I caught an elevated player in the ribs.
    I heard the crack.
    He was bent over!
    his captain came over said something i could not understand.
    He jumped up and jogged off the field.
    Talking with a player after the game,
    who understood the language.
    He told me what was said.

    “Get up you fucking pussy, you are embarrasing yourself and us.
    Be a man!”

    The Captain was correct!

    Clutterbuck was a disgrace!

  119. Bruce McCurdy says:

    striatic: the philosophy seems to be avoiding turnovers in danger areas at *all costs*, including the possible cost of turning the puck over in a less dangerous area.

    #1 reason why Boston could never, ever beat the Habs, who could play it both your way and their way. The latter always seemed to involve a whole lot of possession.

  120. fifthcartel says:

    MacT has got to give us something in the next day or two or else Oilers fans are going to go insane.

  121. Bruce McCurdy says:

    you can’t fire everyone–someone has to run the cash register and someone has to clean up in aisle three.

    ‘Lyle, we haven’t taken a kid in Kenny’s territory since 1976 for Christ’s sake’

    A couple more reasons why I love reading your blog, LT. You have a way with words. Wonderful writing and imagery.

  122. Bruce McCurdy says:

    fifthcartel:
    MacT has got to give us something in the next day or two or Oilers fans are going to go insane.

    Haha, I’ll say. I live blogged MacT’s presser and got ripped for not having any real news to report.

  123. Jordan says:

    fifthcartel:
    MacT has got to give us something in the next day or two or Oilers fans are going to go insane.

    Steve Tambellini holds a press conference, says nothing, and people are appalled because they think he’s an incompetent boob.

    Craig MacTavish holds a press conference, says nothing, and everyone eats it up and wants more.

    Is this Charisma? Eloquence? Style? Or are people just crazy?

    This is Oilers fans, so I’m automatically trained to look at the latter, but… is this just because he’s the silver fox?

  124. Doug McLachlan says:

    LT, you suggest Oshie as an option from St.Louis but I was wondering your thoughts on David Perron? He seems to have been underutilized by Hitchcock down the stretch and in the first round. I’ve always loved his game but am only going by “saw him good” observation here and not advanced stats.

    Your thoughts? If the choice is deal for Perron or sign UFA Penner, with his baggage in this town and MacT in particular, where do you go?

  125. justDOit says:

    rickithebear,

    If my foggy memory serves me, I believe Cam Neely left a playoff game after receiving a charlie horse from Ulf Sameulsson’s knee.

  126. gcw_rocks says:

    godot10,

    I think you are missing the point.

  127. rickithebear says:

    Now Truth,
    if he sat out to insure hall’s suspension.
    and the league said you better be hurt.
    i would buy that one.

    Now if he can handle the pain. clutterbuck has really goog takeaway to turn over ratio.
    Is Physical and will get you a good EVP count for a 4th line player.

    just not for big dollars.

  128. Bank Shot says:

    Jordan: Steve Tambellini holds a press conference, says nothing,and people are appalled because they think he’s an incompetent boob.

    Craig MacTavish holds a press conference, says nothing, and everyone eats it up and wants more.

    Is this Charisma?Eloquence?Style?Or are people just crazy?

    This is Oilers fans, so I’m automatically trained to look at the latter, but… is this just because he’s the silver fox?

    Mact’s press conferences are three times bolder.

  129. RexLibris says:

    Numenius: Um. Not to be dick, but I think you mean a ‘truism’.

    No you got it right, I mis-typed. Truism. Tautology might have worked as well, but logic isn’t exactly the Flames’ forte.

  130. justDOit says:

    A nice pic of the four Hawk Swedes with the Cup (don’t show Spector…)

    http://i.imgur.com/66ULnuu.jpg

  131. spoiler says:

    Canadian Press summary of MacT presser:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426311

  132. spoiler says:

    Bank Shot: Mact’s press conferences are three times bolder.

    With new and improved eye glow!

  133. G Money says:

    Bank Shot: Mact’s press conferences are three times bolder.

    He’s also, like, totally unflappable.

  134. Lowetide says:

    Doug McLachlan:
    LT, you suggest Oshie as an option from St.Louis but I was wondering your thoughts on David Perron?He seems to have been underutilized by Hitchcock down the stretch and in the first round. I’ve always loved his game but am only going by “saw him good” observation here and not advanced stats.

    Your thoughts?If the choice is deal for Perron or sign UFA Penner, with his baggage in this town and MacT in particular, where do you go?

    Like Perron, doubt he’s available.

  135. Ribs says:

    MacTavish Penner diss from today…..

    “There aren’t too many examples of offer sheets paying off. I don’t anticipate us making an offer sheet.” MacTavish.

    I don’t think he’s coming back.

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