ENDLESS SUMMER

Craig MacTavish looks like a rookie GM this evening–returning a charter member of the failed bottom 6F and another veteran who couldn’t get this team above losing. It’s important to remember at this time that the GM did some good things early this transaction season, and the club has some reason to believe they’re heading in a good direction.

THE BIG MOVES

  1. D Darnell Nurse at the draft. Oilers never take defenseman, but this guy does have the look of being something special. A long way to go, but another building block for the future and combined with Klefbom, Marincin, Gernat, Simpson and others, the blue looks exceptional.
  2. D Andrew Ference, 4 years times 3.25M. Ference is a top 4 option. He was 4th among Bruins in EV TOI (17:06) and fourth in PK TOI (2:13) and will probably play similar minutes with the Oilers. Term is the concern, and there’s ever chance at least one of the years of this contract will be dead zone.
  3. C Boyd Gordon, 3 years times 3.0M. Gordon played 12 minutes a night at evens and 3 minutes a night on the PK, and should expect the same workload in Edmonton.
  4. R Ryan Jones, 1 year times 1.5M. Jones returns to the scene of the crime and the club badly needs for him to be better. In fairness to Jones, the eye injury was a major deal last season and he should post numbers resembling career average in the coming season.
  5. G Jason LaBarbera, 1 year times 1.0M. A nice contract for a solid goaltender, and it probably gives Devan Dubnyk some relief after a rocky month in the news. A little older than some of the other options, but this is a very good move.
  6. W Jesse Joensu, 2 years time $950k. 25 year old with size and a real chance to gain regular status. The Harski re-set. 6.04, 210. The Hockey News: Has great size and some scoring ability. Is aggressive on the forecheck. Can play either wing position effectively. Also has a little two-way upside.

CURRENT ROSTER

FORWARDS

  1. Taylor Hall 6M
  2. Jordan Eberle 6M
  3. Ales Hemsky 5M
  4. Sam Gagner 5M (est)
  5. RNH 3.775M
  6. Nail Yakupov 3.775M
  7. Boyd Gordon 3.0M
  8. Ryan Smyth 2.25M
  9. Magnus Paajarvi 1.7M (est)
  10. Ryan Jones 1.5M
  11. Jesse Joensu 950k
  12. Anton Lander 900k
  13. Mike Brown 737k

DEFENSE

  1. Justin Schultz 3.775M
  2. Ladislav Smid 3.5M
  3. Nick Schultz 3.5M
  4. Andrew Ference 3.25M
  5. Jeff Petry 1.75M
  6. Anton Belov 1.525M
  7. Philip Larsen 1.025M
  8. Corey Potter 775k

GOAL

  1. Devan Dubnyk 3.5M
  2. Jason LaBarbera 1.0M

That’s actually a complete roster, although I think we’ll see at least a couple of changes: Hemsky and Lander out, and two replacement players in among the forwards. If there’s a deal for a blue upgrade then I’m sure they’ll do it but the reality of the situation (the D upgrade is Ference, Belov, Larson) means we’ll have to hope there are better options next season. Klefbom may in fact be a saviour over the next 12 months. Look, the Oilers are going to be better because the impact kids will be a year older and better, but lordy people let’s aim higher.

MACT’S LIST

  1. Top 4 defender (signed Ference, that’s the big move this summer)
  2. Sign Sam Gagner to a multi-year deal that has begins with a number in the 4′s
  3. Get Paajarvi signed and then find a role that suits him (suspect it’s 3line).
  4. NHL goalie (LaBarbera was a nice option)
  5. Find a 2line L who can complement Gagner-Yakupov with puck retrieval, blocking out the sun, etc
  6. Find a 3line R Joensu is the option I’ll puck, but it would be foolish to exclude Ryan Jones based on salary
  7. Find a 3line C (Gordon an ideal fit)
  8. Find a 4line C
  9. Deal Hemsky for immediate help (even if its a checker).
  10. Deal Horcoff or slot him into the 3line job for which he is actually ideal. Continued to improve D depth.
  11. Decide on Lander/Belanger or other for 13F. Lander it is!
  12. Better blue depth (MacT has done this with Belov and Larsen, plus Klefbom/Fedun/Marincin)
  13. AHL #1/NHL #3 goalie Bachman is an outstanding solution
  14. Sign Paul Ranger (should have said ‘sign Marlies)

Gagner & Paajarvi need to be signed, a 2line W is needed for the second scoring line, 4C is not solved and we assume they want to deal Hemsky until they tell us otherwise. Five items left from a list of 14–MacT is almost finished, there’s still no move fans view as ‘bold’ and it’s early but it’s also late.

MINOR MOVES

  • C Will Acton: Strictly an AHL option based on his 19 points in 67 AHL games this past season. Brings size.
  • L Ryan Hamilton: I very much like this signing and will cheer like hell for him. He’s the new minor league all-star to cheer for, big and strong and older and lacking in footspeed. THN: Has good size and the ability to play a physical game. Works well in the corners. Can score goals and put up good numbers at lower levels.
  • G Richard Bachman: It’s important not to overlook this signing, Bachman is a goaltender with NHL experience and could certainly upset the pecking order with a strong training camp. 32 NHL games (.901SP) and 84 AHL games (.920) and I expect his actual ability is somewhere in between.

EPILOGUE

The Oilers have about $13M in cap space and Ales Hemsky (plus whatever portion of his contract they send away) with the following things to do:

  1. Sign Sam Gagner to a multi-year deal that has begins with a number in the 4′s
  2. Get Paajarvi signed and then find a role that suits him (suspect it’s 3line).
  3. Find a 2line L who can complement Gagner-Yakupov with puck retrieval, blocking out the sun, etc
  4. Find a 4line C
  5. Deal Hemsky for immediate help (even if its a checker).

At this point I count the draft, Ference, Gordon and LaBarbera as positives, and like the secondary signings of Hamilton and Bachman. I’m most concerned about center–I honestly feel MacT has that position as a target for improvement and they’re about halfway there–and a skill forward, where the options have dwindled and the trade route is really all that remains.

Has the team improved? Yes. The defense has offloaded Ryan Whitney and the forward group is brilliant and a year older. However, the window of opportunity is still open and this is no time to do nothing. God Almighty knows Oiler fans have learned that over and over and over again.

Every. Summer. This roster needs more help. Godspeed, Craig MacTavish.

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  1. Racki says:

    I know it’s way easier said than done, and I’m a broken record, but I’d say we need a #2C still. If that #2 becomes Grabovski, then I’d say we need to move Gagner for a big body with decent hands (a la Chris Stewart).

    Option 1 – acquiring big body for #2 LW:
    Hall Nuge Eberle
    TBD Grabovski Yakupov
    Paajarvi Gordon Jones
    Smyth PickOne Joensuu

    or

    Option 2 – acquiring big body for #2 C:
    Same as above but line 2 is:
    Gagner TBD Yakupov

    I really like Gagner, and I’m preferring a big body presence at C for #2.. but that is pretty hard to come by.

    So really, in all likelihood, it will probably wind up being:
    TBD Gagner Yakupov

    … with us aiming low and picking up a so-so big man for LW.

  2. Pablo Aimar says:

    Well I hope you are wrong because if Ference is indeed “the big move” of the summer then this team is in deep shit.

  3. Hall Awaits says:

    T.Hall / Nugent-Hopkins / Eberle
    Gagner / Grabovski/ Yakupov
    Paajarvi / Gordon / Joensuu
    Smyth / Z.Smith /Jones
    Lander, Brown

    Coburn / Schultz
    Ference / Petry
    Smid / Belov
    Larsen

    Dubnyk
    Labarbara

    Date to dream….

  4. Hall Awaits says:

    Hall Awaits,

    Dare*

  5. Lowetide says:

    Oilers have signed D Brad Hunt. Man they have a lot of blue now

    http://www.capgeek.com/player/2535

  6. Professor Q says:

    I have been wondering what all of this talk about portioning Hemsky’s contract…is that even possible? If so, how? Is it cap or real money, or both? Seems odd to me at first glance, but all of you rave about it.

  7. Captain Happy says:

    Lowetide:
    Oilers have signed D Brad Hunt. Man they have a lot of blue now

    http://www.capgeek.com/player/2535

    5’9′ 185.

  8. Lowetide says:

    Professor Q:
    I have been wondering what all of this talk about portioning Hemsky’s contract…is that even possible? If so, how? Is it cap or real money, or both? Seems odd to me at first glance, but all of you rave about it.

    PArt of the new CBA, Oilers could trade Hemsky and 2M of his cap to Ottawa for C Zack Smith and a 4th round pick.

  9. Professor Q says:

    Lowetide: PArt of the new CBA, Oilers could trade Hemsky and 2M of his cap to Ottawa for C Zack Smith and a 4th round pick.

    Merci! I do not really follow the CBA stuff anyways, but that does clarify things.

  10. Rosco says:

    Alex Pietrangelo
    Ryan McDonagh
    Karl Alzner
    Jared Cowen
    Chris Stewart
    Cody Hodson
    Zach Bogosian
    Blake Wheeler
    Adam Henrique
    Chris Tanev

    Hell of a list of restricted free agents and some on cap strapped teams. Time to be bold MacT or ice another loser like the last GM did…. And the GM before that (2006 not withstanding) #sadtrombone

  11. Professor Q says:

    Rosco:
    Alex Pietrangelo
    Ryan McDonagh
    Karl Alzner
    Jared Cowen
    Chris Stewart
    Cody Hodson
    Zach Bogosian
    Blake Wheeler
    Adam Henrique
    Chris Tanev

    Hell of a list of restricted free agents and some on cap strapped teams. Time to be bold MacT or ice another loser like the last GM did…. And the GM before that (2006 not withstanding) #sadtrombone

    Although I also thought he stated that he did not want to delve into Offer Sheets?

  12. Lowetide says:

    I vote McDonough or Pietrangelo

  13. supernova says:

    Signing jones isn’t that bad, I just wish he would hit more.

    Good contract, and if he doesn’t produce we can press box him or waiver wire him.

    When nystrom and halischuk get more money and more term I think they circled back to him.

  14. supernova says:

    Lowetide,

    What would you offer.

    For me on Pietrangelo I would go as high as 7.75 for 8 years.

    Unsure on McD

  15. Bar_Qu says:

    Isn’t part of MacT’s job to provide the sizzle? I mean, a GM is as much a part of the off ice entertainment as anything now, so when he promises ‘bold’ moves, this gets the faithful excited about the team for the off-season. Then when the reality of dealing with 29 other guys who overvalue their assets and won’t play nice kicks in, well you have a built in excuse for not succeeding in the plethora of moves promised.

    I never really believed 9 guys out and great new guys in was a realistic goal, but I stayed tuned to see if it was. And that was the point, IMO.

    Maybe they sign Grabbo to a big contract tomorrow & maybe they run with Lander after twisting in the wind thru August, I dunno (maybe the raft of D is for trading to Holmgren?). But, the team was never going to as stacked as we fans wanted it to be.

    The next step is for Eakins to succeed where Kruger,Renney,Quinn all failed before; to get a good product from an incomplete roster. Likely an outshot team next season, but with enough scoring to get close to the playoffs, making next summer the one where the UFAs want to come and play in the sun.

    The Long Game

  16. Captain Happy says:

    Lowetide:
    I vote McDonough or Pietrangelo

    STL has $8M in cap space with 24 players on the roster.

    It would take a massive contract to even get him interested and his agent says he’s not interested in signing an offer sheet.

    http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/stl130706.html

    McDonagh might work.

  17. Rosco says:

    Professor Q,

    Well in my mind he hasn’t lived up to his other statements so far, so why not continue the trend… I know it’s early and I do like a lot of the moves so far (incl. Jones b/c he’s good depth at the very worst). But the lack of production on bringing in that 2nd line LW and the 1st pairing D is makng me nervous, and the Clarkson info that has been out there , has been troubling to say the least.

  18. Bar_Qu says:

    BTW, that was not meant to be a defence of MacT, just my view of what has happened the last two weeks.

  19. Rosco says:

    Lowetide,

    I’d be over the moon for McDonagh… A lot of check marks in the right places for that player on this team.

  20. cabbiesmacker says:

    Pablo Aimar:
    Well I hope you are wrong because if Ference is indeed“the big move” of the summer then this team is in deep shit.

    Har. I like it.

    The big move is more than likely signing Gagner to $5,25 for 5 yrs. Then we can all breathe a little easier.

    Oh sure we’ll still suck like a Hoover up the middle and finish 10th in the West but….you just can’t rush a good thing right?

    I have the Oilers in the playoffs riiiiight around year 5 of Taylor Hall’s new contract.

    Excellent.

    The solution of course will be to hire more ex Oilers with zero qualifications. Perhaps Messier as the HC.

    It matters little. As long as our owner gets to lie on his side and run his Hot Wheels OIler’s bus around on his city roads bedroom carpet it’s all good.

  21. Racki says:

    Lowetide:
    Oilers have signed D Brad Hunt. Man they have a lot of blue now

    http://www.capgeek.com/player/2535

    Most definitely a signing for OKC (and then if we get lucky, he goes Torey Krug on us). Any help down there allows guys like Klefbom/Fedun to wander up here now and again. So thumbs up for this signing, albeit a minor one.

  22. cabbiesmacker says:

    Lowetide:
    Oilers have signed D Brad Hunt. Man they have a lot of blue now

    http://www.capgeek.com/player/2535

    Mike’s brother?

  23. striatic says:

    some analysis of forward depth, broken down by position as it currently stands.

    RW
    1st RW Jordan Eberle: One of the top three Wunderkinder, Corsi monster last year despite his drop in shooting percentage and goal production.
    2nd RW Nail Yakupov: Found his stride last year at RW, and what a stride it was. move to LW at your peril.
    3rd RW Ales Hemsky: If Ales Hemsky is your 3RW, you are well stocked at the position. Will probably end up traded at the deadline. Needs to prove he is healthy before trade value increases.
    4th RW Ryan Jones: Mediocre replacement 3rd liner should excel in the soft 4th line minutes. Has shown in the past he can put up points given little TOI.

    LW
    1st LW Taylor Hall: 2nd best LW in the NHL, if you count the votes correctly.
    2nd LW Magnus Paajarvi: The spot intended for Clarkson. Should be slotted 3rd LW, but he’s 6″3′ according to the Oilers website so he becomes the top 6 “Big Body” by default. The attempted Clarkson signing means the Oilers know they have a hole here.
    3rd LW Ryan Smyth: Should be slotted 4th LW. Simply doesn’t have the legs for the tough third line minutes.
    4th LW Jesse Joensuu: Should be slotted 13th F. Shoots left, listed as a LW on the Oilers site. Replaces fellow finn Lennart Petrell. A bit of a lab experiment.

    C
    1st C Ryan Nugent Hopkins: Assume he will be out for the first portion of the season. The third of the three Corsi Monsters on the team, he’s an Elite 1st Line C in a distinct class. Shoulder surgery should improve his shooting finish, but last year’s Corsi demonstrates his fundamentals weren’t off, just his arm.
    2nd C Sam Gagner: Sort of the reverse of RNH last year, all finish but constantly bleeding chances against. needs a much better defensive LW to compensate and go get the puck for him. His finish, o-zone playmaking and PP prowess demonstrates that if given softer minutes he’ll own the opposition.
    3rd C Boyd Gordon: The key to getting Gagner those softer minutes. With elite level fancy stats, he’s the reason the team can afford to keep Gagner as 2nd line C. Hopefully he brings Tipett’s systems play along with him and communicates it well to his line-mates.
    4th C Anton Lander: Should be in the AHL. His Corsi Rel last year was actually positive, 5th best on the team. I think there is a player here and we are seeing signs of it emerging, but he needs a bit more AHL seasoning.

  24. FastOil says:

    The Rangers are cap bound. They are short of RW talent.

    It seems to me multi-player (LT’s fave) trades provide cover for the GM because it typically is not possible to assess a win/lose scenario right off the bat.

    Eberle and Musil/Gernat for McDonagh and whatever salary dump that isn’t too onerous.

    I think Sather has to unload salary and is deep on D. A smaller deal for Staal (because he has destroyed his value) thinking short term would be something a smart GM in a position like MacT could also pursue. That being Hemsky etc.

  25. supernova says:

    cabbiesmacker,

    cabbiesmacker: Mike’s brother?

    Haha nice!

  26. striatic says:

    Needs:

    2nd LW: desperately needed to help support Sam Gagner’s weaknesses and push some other guys down the depth chart, most notably Ryan Smyth. There are no remaining UFAs that fill this role, and trading for a 2nd LW will require payment to a level the Oiler’s depth can’t supply. will have to wait until next year’s UFA class. I can’t see any temporary patches working here, so basically the Oilers’ next season evaporated before MacT’s eyes when they couldn’t get Clarkson to sign for this role.

    4th C: Anton Lander isn’t good enough yet. You can make an argument for signing Grabovski in order to push Boyd Gordon down the depth chart and solve the problem that way, but i’m unsure if that is the ideal long term solution. better to trade for a solid, more proven 4th C like Zach Smith as a temporary patch and then address the “sign Grabovski” need in next year’s UFA class with a better all around player/personality.

  27. cabbiesmacker says:

    Greg Campbell and Dan Paille came up in the last post when making reference to the Jones signing.

    Paille, 29, $ 1.3 per

    Campbell, 29, $1.6 per

    Jones, 29, $ 1.5 per

    The only difference being Paille and Campbell can actually play hockey.

    Good teams vs bad teams I guess.

  28. striatic says:

    FastOil: Eberle and Musil/Gernat for McDonagh and whatever salary dump that isn’t too onerous.

    i think this is very, very short sighted.

    keep Eberle and wait till next UFA class to bring in your defensive pieces. lots of quality D coming up UFA next summer, and no need to throw away Eberle to secure them. Plus lots of D prospects one year closer to making the team, plus J. Schultz moving up the depth chart.

    the team might get better next year but becomes much much much worse long term.

  29. Rondo says:

    The problem has been and is Sam Gagner is not a 2nd line center. He has been put in a position where he can’t succeed. Put him on the wing and find a 2nd line center. How many years are we going hear about Gagner not been able to do xyz.

  30. jbfuzz says:

    Lowetide,

    This is a trade of sorts that I’d be okay with, seeing as how they seem committed to moving Hemsky anyways. OTT might also be interested in depth blue (Potter?). The Jones contract in context: Nystrom 4 years, $10 million, Hendricks 4 years, almost $8 million. Those deals are hilarious.

  31. Big Dan says:

    Just noticed that Liam Reddox became a UFA! Since MacT is interested in resigning dead wood like Jones, I can’t believe he wouldn’t consider his old buddy to fill the 2nd line LW spot. :)

  32. Captain Happy says:

    Big Dan:
    Just noticed that Liam Reddox became a UFA!Since MacT is interested in resigning dead wood like Jones, I can’t believe he wouldn’t consider his old buddy to fill the 2nd line LW spot.

    Toby Peterson is also UFA.

    Giddyup :)

  33. striatic says:

    so if the Oilers want to trade, i think the pieces in play now are Ladislav Smid and Nick Schultz.

    Smid is my favourite Oiler but i think the wise move is to trade him now to a cap strapped team for a salary heavy LW.

    i’d rather move N. Schultz but i don’t think there is enough demand present to fill that 2nd LW hole with his return.

    The other team probably wants PRV along with Smid to help fill the LW hole they are making with the trade, but i think you play hardball with them and let the cap do its work.

  34. spoiler says:

    Is Ron Hainsey truly off-limits? Why is this guy not signed? Have I missed it? If no one will talk to him over CBA resentment, why hasn’t his agent gone public?

    Wouldn’t Ron Hainsey have been more helpful than Ference?

  35. Gerta Rauss says:

    striatic,

    I’m in no hurry to trade Smid-he’s a keeper as far as I’m concerned.

    I think N Schultz at $1.75M could be attractive to a cap strung team

  36. Captain Happy says:

    And you thought hockey was serious business.

    “SAO PAULO – Police say enraged spectators invaded a soccer field, stoned the referee to death and quartered his body after he stabbed a player to death.

    The Public Safety Department of the state of Maranhao says in a statement that it all started when referee Otavio da Silva expelled player Josenir Abreu from a game last weekend. The two got into a fist fight, then Silva took out a knife and stabbed Abreu, who died on his way to the hospital.

    The statement issued this week says Abreu’s friends and relatives immediately “rushed into the field, stoned the referee to death and quartered his body.”

    Local news media say the spectators also decapitated Silva and stuck his head on a stake in the middle of the field”

  37. dangilitis says:

    Lowetide,

    Oh that would be awful. Hemsky as a 3 million forward is a great deal for every team who trades for him. At 3 million per season, he provides as much hope and way more skill to a team as Clark MacArthur does for the same price.

    When you have a contract like Hemsky’s for one year you have to ask yourself why you would take on any salary for the next year. A trade for Smith and retaining 2 mil cap hit would be the equivalent of downgrading the forward position and bringing Smith for a “front loaded contract” of 3.9 (1.9 + hemsky’s 2) then 1.9 for an additional 3 years. And so you are committing to pay 2 million a season for 4 years for a 4th line center that could be replaced hopefully by Lander in 2 years??? That deal is wrong on so many levels. Smith is better than Lander, but there have to be better ways to find a 4th line center without giving up Hemsky.

    Ottawa is deep at left wing. Offer Hemsky at 4 million (retain 1) + 3rd rounder for Michalek (4.3 AAV). Then the Oil are paying 5.3 million to cover Hemsky’s retained salary + Michalek’s deal, while Ottawa shaves 0.3 million and improves RW depth significantly (Hemsky instantly #1 RW, Neil, Pageau, Condra) while still having a LW order of Ryan, MacArthur, Conacher.

  38. striatic says:

    I would look to trade Smid or Schultz to Vancouver for David Booth.

  39. striatic says:

    on second thought Vancouver doesn’t need Defensemen.

  40. 99thoilerfan says:

    striatic,

    Yeah, they have great goal tending, anyway…

  41. Gerta Rauss says:

    Booth is damaged goods(concussions)

  42. striatic says:

    i wonder if Buffalo would do Nick Shultz for Thomas Vanek.

    eh, i guess Vanek is more a move for picks at the deadline type guy.

  43. dangilitis says:

    Oh, and Copper N Blue ran an analysis on Grabo and concluded that he is great at scoring against weak competition but fails in tougher minutes. In essence, he is Gagner, only he seemingly has an attitude problem, is now commanding a UFA salary, and actually has a worse track record at defensive play. And some of you here want him as our 2nd line center? People ripped Nonis yesterday for letting Grabo go and keeping Bozak, but that is a similar action to what MacT would be doing if he signed Grabo as #2C and pushing Gagner out. If he could sign him to #3C dollars, then you sign him. Not as #2C.

  44. G Money says:

    striatic: some analysis of forward depth, broken down by position as it currently stands.

    Nicely done, sir!

    Food for thought in terms of trading partners to fill gaps, the following teams are in cap doo-doo:

    Kings, Canucks, Hurricanes, Sharks, Penguins, Flyers

    (I made the cutoff rather arbitrarily as needing to sign at least 3 players with < $1.5M each).

    Sharks, Penguins, Flyers are in VERY deep doo-doo, as they need to sign multiple players at less than league minimum to stay under the cap i.e. they HAVE to ship salary out.

  45. striatic says:

    G Money: Sharks, Penguins, Flyers are in VERY deep doo-doo, as they need to sign multiple players at less than league minimum to stay under the cap i.e. they HAVE to ship salary out.

    the problem with these teams is that many of their forwards have NTCs, or the salary heavy players they are willing to move would be RWs .. not LWs or Cs.

  46. striatic says:

    yeesh San Jose is a cap nightmare..

    why didn’t they use any compliance buyouts?

  47. commonfan14 says:

    Regarding the beginning of LT’s post, it’s important to remember that MacT had zero directly related experience for the GM job, and that Lowe gave it to him without even bothering to interview any other candidates (confirmed by Rishaug).

    I imagine MacT would have had trouble becoming even an assistant GM for any other team in the league, but here he just waltzed into the big chair with no questions asked.

    I’ve been trying to tell myself that maybe none of that matters and MacT really is the best man for the job, but in reality there’s no reason to think this is the worst move we’re going to see this offseason.

    As was pointed out in the last thread, he’s simply in over his head. It’s unfair to all involved.

  48. Gerta Rauss says:

    James Neal plays left wing-he would be a perfect fit at 2LW

    There might be something there if Pitt is willing to move him-the price would be steep,no doubt, but it would be bold

  49. rickithebear says:

    From the last post:

    Compared to the league average GF/60 GA/60
    Special teams:
    PK:
    Gagner #5 center 1.60 TOI 3.13 GA (+2.87) +6 GD
    Gordon center 2.55 toi 5.88 (+.12) +1 GD
    Smyth #8 wing 2.50 TOI 3.58GA (+2.42) +8 GD
    Jones 11-12 #15 wing 2.43 TOI 4.69 (+1.31) +4 GD
    N. schultz #18 D 2.42 TOI 4.12GA (+1.88) +6 GD
    A. ference 319 D 2.06 TOI 4.19 GA (+1.81) +5 GD
    J. Petry #20 D 3.26 TOI 4.22GA (+1.78) +8 GD
    L. Smid #2 D 3.14 TOI 4.78GA (+1.22) +5 GD
    PP:
    J. Schultz 2.96 TOI 6.75 (+.75) +3 GD
    J. Petry 11-12 1.26 TOI 6.51GF (+.51) +1 GD
    RNH 2.83 TOI 9.12 (+3.12) +12 GD
    Hall 3.00 toi 8.16 GF (+2.16) +9 GD
    Jones .83 TOI 8.13 (+2.13) +3 GD
    Gagner 2.52 TOI 6.98 (+.98) +3 GD
    Eberle 2.90 toi 6.92 (+.92) +4 GD
    Hemsky 2.49 toi 6.42 (.42) +1 GD
    Smyth 2.40 5.66 (-34) -1GD

    Maybe jones gets Horc’s front net role.
    Ryan smyth taught horcoff and Jones the role.
    teaching Jeansuu for the second unit role might be an option.

    Sp special teams wise R. Jones is a +7 GD player
    Give him horc minutes in front of the net.
    he is top 20 special teams player both ways.
    So while i listen to the even play concerns .
    There are few players who can make up for a negative even play but this guy can.

    Even Upper third Comp.
    10.98 toi 46% Zone Start.
    1.41 EVP/60 22 EVP 13G 9A
    1.78GF/60 (-.55) -8 GD
    2.03 GA/60 (+.30) +4 GD

    A smyth-XXX-Jones 4th line should be a in the +6 range for the season.

    He is not an NHL Player?
    Boys!
    Please!

  50. striatic says:

    Gerta Rauss: There might be something there if Pitt is willing to move him-the price would be steep,no doubt, but it would be bold

    Pittsburgh is close enough to having a full roster that they can do something like move Brooks Orpik for picks, replace him with Rob Scuderi, and then get a couple of league minimum guys to fill out the bottom of the roster and they will have a full roster.

    no need to trade Neal.

  51. G Money says:

    striatic,

    Still some opportunities I think. Yeah, LW is definitely a problem – maybe a reason why MacT was so willing to grossly overpay Clarkson.

    But … there are C’s available, and we do need a 3R if Hemsky is not sticking around (which seems likely). Listed below are some players that *may* be of interest to the Oilers below (they don’t have an NTC unless noted), from the four worst cap trouble teams.

    Also note that a roster heavily laden with NTCs can actually work to the benefit of the trading partner, since it restricts the trade options for a cap-trouble team.

    You can make the argument that the players below are not ones that these teams will want to give up, but you have to bear in mind, they *have* to give someone up, that someone has to have enough salary and cap hit to relieve the pressure, and the trade partner *has* to be willing to take that player and salary in exchange for picks and prospects.

    So it is probably inevitable that some good players will be moved, and quite likely at a substantial discount to a non-forced equivalent trade. That after all is why Pronger got traded to the Oilers way back when!

    Phi – Talbot (C), Coburn (D, NTC but is from W Canada)

    Pit – Sutter (C), Niskanen (D)

    SJS – Burish (C), Kennedy (RW)

    Car – Tlusty (RW), Sekera (D), Pitkanen (D)

  52. striatic says:

    it is teams like Carolina who are really screwed.

    5 million in cap space to sign 5 players, but they also really need to extend Jiri Tlusty and they have NTCs and NMCs all over the place.

    it is quite possible that all their players other than their top 6 will be AHL league minimum types, unless they move Semin for a bunch of depth pieces or something.

    craziness.

  53. striatic says:

    G Money: Phi – Talbot (C), Coburn (D, NTC but is from W Canada)
    Pit – Sutter (C), Niskanen (D)
    SJS – Burish (C), Kennedy (RW)
    Car – Tlusty (RW), Sekera (D), Pitkanen (D)

    like i said before, i think Pit moves Orpik for picks since recent acquisition Scuderi replaces him, and then they buy some league minimum grinders to fill out the roster and not play much or at all.

    as for San Jose, Burish isn’t the kind of guy you move to clear salary, and they JUST signed Kennedy so i don’t think either one is moving. They almost have a full roster so doing something like trading Brad Stuart for picks and bringing in some low paid D is their answer until the cap goes up next year and they can extend their stars. i don’t know what Torres’ NTC is like but maybe moving him is an option also.

    Carolina is in a hell of a bind. They were fortunate to get Khudobin on the contract they did but they are still in big trouble. I don’t see what they can do other than either move Semin for pieces, or fill out their entire bottom 6 with league minimum guys and suck all year long. so i think they are just going to suck this year.

  54. DeadmanWaking says:

    From the department of weird ideas in the aftermath the Clarkson snub: it’s contrary to the spirit of the CBA that a player taking a fiscal home town discount also advantages the receiving team on cap terms.

    Before the UFAs are free to negotiate, there could be a league-wide second price auction with a separate winning bid for each length of term which establishes the player’s cap hit for that term of contract.

    It would to work iteratively where each team submits a list of (salary,term) for a desired player. The bids go to the players who can accept the bid (which has no strings such as movement restrictions). This keeps the bidders at least vaguely honest. Or the player can reject the bid, but his cap hit for those terms can’t be less than the best offer received. This also keeps the players honest. Each team would be allowed to bid on a player at most one time. The iterations continue until no team wishes to bid on any further UFA. Players who have already accepted are off the market.

    For those remaining on the market, there would now be a public minimum cap hit for each term of contract for which that player received any offer. Players who later take a lower offer for some length of term still carry a cap hit as established in the auction round (the best offer for that term, or perhaps the second best offer as in a second price auction).

    The cap premium for players taking the homer could be equally divided as a cap increase to the other 29 teams (the exact algebra is not important, only that it exists). This would conserve total cap and total spending.

    In any case, no proposal with a footnote (*) reading “the exact algebra is unimportant, only that it exists and some clever person could work it out” has ever been accepted by the NHL, so this is just an interesting thought exercise in recognizing that the cap hit could be bent to represent market value even when a player refuses to assert market value for his wife’s reasons.

    The underspending teams would hardly care about carrying the cap premium (they might even find this advantageous). The Big Apple and the Big Drought would find their cap a little tighter without the wiggle room of homer discounts.

    The present system somewhat subsidizes a UFA’s lifestyle choice.

    Maybe this could be worked to allow a maximum of three iterations, where teams can submit multiple bids in each round, but must be prepared for every bid offered to be accepted in that round (and would need to have the cap room available to support this).

  55. striatic says:

    so maybe the Oilers try to get Raffi Torres out of San Jose for late round picks?

    that’d be .. hilarious.

  56. striatic says:

    Oilers could also do something like sign Vinny Prospal for one year for a stupid amount of money, just as a patch until next season.

    or maybe Brendan Morrow for two?

  57. Chris says:

    So can we resign Gagner…bring back Penner, Reasoner and Gilbert and call this a hockey team again? If he does it tomorrow MacT can call it “Tambo was an idiot” day.

  58. Chris says:

    Hall-RNH-Eberle
    Penner-Gagner-Yakupov
    Parjavi – Gordon Hemsky
    Smyth-Reasoner-Jones

    Smid-Petry
    Ference-Gilbert
    Shultz-Shultz
    Belov

    Dubnyk
    Labarbara

    It would be the most balanced line up we have iced in years.

  59. striatic says:

    yeah, so i think what i want is a one year, 2.5-3 million dollar contract [or whatever it takes to get him here] for Vinny Prospal.

    he can play with country mate Hemsky until the deadline, and then you flip them both to playoff teams for picks.

  60. striatic says:

    Hall-RNH-Eberle – 1stToughs+1stPP
    Paajarvi-Gagner-Yakupov – Soft+2ndPP
    Prospal-Gordon-Hemsky – 2ndToughs
    Smyth-Lander-Jones

    Smid-Petry
    Ference-J.Schultz
    N.Schultz-Potter
    Belov

    Dubnyk
    Labarbara

  61. coolwasabi says:

    It’s scary how signing Grabovski to a 2-3 year deal would almost immediately improve the situation significantly.

    - would give us more depth at C.
    - would PERHAPS make Gagner expendable if the return (top-4 D or big winger) is there… and there’s little reason to think it wouldn’t be.

    I’d also welcome trading N.Schultz for a 2nd round pick and then (ironically) picking up Tom Gilbert to take his place…

    Come on MacT. DO SOMETHING. The moves have been solid if not boring on paper. But so were many of Tambellini’s….

  62. striatic says:

    coolwasabi: I’d also welcome trading N.Schultz for a 2nd round pick and then (ironically) picking up Tom Gilbert to take his place…

    i don’t like the idea of replacing a Left Shot D with a Right Shot D.

  63. mustang says:

    signing Grabo spells the end for Gags, Grabo would never sign here to be a 3 line center, If your not talking second line I really cant see him signing here. He’s going to want around 4.75 + and first to second line minutes, does that work for Edmonton?

  64. striatic says:

    Grabovski is a non starter since the Oilers missed him on waivers.

    he isn’t going to sign here. doubt he signs with any western team, to be honest.

  65. Andropod says:

    Did MacT pass on Grabovsky due to his negative impact on team chemistry?

    Also, I read that Kruger forced Jones to play a different style last year. So if Jonesy is allowed to pla within his natural style, can we reasonably expect a return to prior form?

  66. Ryan says:

    Lord help us if the big moves this summer only include signing an aged top 4 d, Gordon, Jonesu-a 4rth liner who had a tough time cracking the roster on the Islanders, and bringing back the tub thumper.

  67. sliderule says:

    Lowetide,

    Ottawa only has four D signed two rfa and a UFA.

    They have to be thinking to improve by trade.Z smith for Schultz works for me.

    Six foot two and 212 lbs and put up good points when slotted at two center.

  68. Acumen says:

    I said it yesterday, but if I keep saying it maybe MacTavish will notice. The universe speaks to him, after all.

    Nick Schultz for Ryan Malone. By my eye it makes a tonne of sense for both teams. If he works out, we have a top 6 traffic cop, if somewhat overpaid, for the next two years to pin at Nuge and Eberle’s hip. If it doesn’t we compliance him next summer. Tampa is really hurting on D, and Tambellini himself told us Yzerman likes Schultz.

    As for the RFA D, sign me up for a strong push for Bogosian. He’s behind Buff and ahead of Trouba on the right side so I could see his exit being a bit more feasible. I wonder if Hemsky, Marincin, and the 1st is good enough. 3 for 1.

    Ference-Bogo
    Smid-Schultz
    Belov-Petry
    Larsen (or Potter)

    looks like a playoff D corps to me.

  69. fifthcartel says:

    Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer 7m

    St. Louis now have 14 NHL forwards and still need to sign Chris Stewart who gives the team “balls” as per a source close to the team…

    Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer 5m

    …the Blues also likely have an internal team cap…in otherwords something has to give up front with the likes of a Perron or Oshie

  70. Kris11 says:

    St. Louis paid a first for Bowmeester.

    Could we get him for next year’s second and a cheaper Dman (hopefully not Smid or Petry, which would be overpay.)

    Maybe a second, a third, and N. Schultz.

    Solves all their cap problems and gives them some picks, and Schultz ain’t bad.

    It is a terrible deal, but I might move next year’s first for Bowmeester. Just to get some wins now, maybe you do a bad deal.

  71. Kris11 says:

    I can see the Blues really wanting MPS. Cheap, young.

    I’d hold fast and not give him up.

    I wonder if they would like Hemsky if we kept 2MM of his cap hit.

  72. gcw_rocks says:

    You have to be a true optimist to consider Joensu as a NHL forward at this point. He has not proven he is an NHL regular even in fourth line duty. Lander needs more time on the farm as well. If the Oilers go into cap with those two penciled into the staying rotation than MacT is not a material improvement over Tambo, which is pretty fucking sad.

    team needs real NHL players not wannabes. It also needs value contracts to make sure they have cap space to sign RNH, Schultz, and Yak, not to mention Petry and probably Dubnyk, assuming he doesn’t tell MacT to shove it.

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