POWER TRIO

I think we’re going to see some very interesting names this fall on NHL training camp rosters. For the Edmonton Oilers, I’ll be looking for enforcers, backup goalies and centermen. I’m hoping new coach Dalllas Eakins can find a 4line like Jim Dowd-Boyd Devereaux-Georges Laraque–not in one training camp but at some point during the season.

It’s a damn shame Tyler Pitlick isn’t ready to go, because someone like that in the Devereaux role (with Gordon eventually being Dowd) could be gaining valuable experience right now if he could piss a drop offensively.

speeds posted a great tweet earlier today:

speeds

This blog has had a long standing rule–don’t discuss three scoring lines! However, speeds idea runs in lock step with MacT’s 2006 spring lineup–offense and 2-way play on every line! Well, you need some Horcoff’s and Peca’s and Dvorak’s and that’s for sure, this lineup has some appeal:

  • Nuge-Hall-Eberle
  • Gordon-Perron-Hemsky
  • Gagner-Omark-Yakupov
  • Dowd-Devereaux-Laraque

What say you? Do we DARE discuss three lines that can power up?

 

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  1. blackdog says:

    Isn’t Eakins a real line blender or am I making that up? If he is then Omark may have a better shot at the roster than we think and a lineup like this may be a real possibility. Smyth, Joensuu, Lander, Jones being the rest of the roster to start up front (and Brown I guess) and then Eakins running with the hot hands/reacting to the score/opposition when filling out his lineup card and sending out his lines.

  2. Lowetide says:

    It’s going to be interesting, Pat. It’s been rolling around in my brain for a couple of days (since the Omark signing) that they will probably have to choose between Omark, Brown and Potter/8D. Love to see Omark on this team.

  3. spoiler says:

    I’d be happier if Marty Reasoner was coming to camp on a super cheap contract. Ideally, Lombardi, but doubt he’d sign for $1M or less. At some point one of these excess defensemen has to be turned into a decent 4th line center.

  4. Southern Oil says:

    Lowetide:
    It’s going to be interesting, Pat. It’s been rolling around in my brain for a couple of days (since the Omark signing) that they will probably have to choose between Omark, Brown and Potter/8D. Love to see Omark on this team.

    I’d love to see Omark on the club as well. Only because I want to find out if there is a player there. One of the things that management has done over the past number of years, is flush some guys before they know what they have – eg. Brodziak. That is a mentality shared by poor teams. I can’t help but think due to injuries in his second season, we weren’t able to confirm if Omark could grow in other areas of his game. Clearly he has talent on the O side of the puck. We’ll see if he has matured as a player this TC.

    I am also hoping that Eakins tries to utilize what he is given and mold the best team from those parts. I think we have the personnel here for three scoring lines. Why try to fight it? Why upgrade JFJ to the first line in the name of size? We don’t have a Lucic – most teams don’t – use what we have.

  5. spoiler says:

    Omark scares me. He cheats for O worse than Jones or Gagner. Worst I have ever seen anyone wearing an Oildrop this millennium cheat. If he can commit to the system, I’m fine with him making the team, as he has talent and is tough on the puck. But if he can’t, I have no problem with MacT running him through the waiver wire.

  6. Ralph_u says:

    I would love 3 scoring lines but would probably switch Perron and Omark and Gagner’s line would be the second.

  7. blackdog says:

    Lowetide,

    Will be a great tell on what Eakins is thinking and wants if Omark has a great camp.

  8. blackdog says:

    spoiler,

    based on MacT’s actions so far I would bet Lander will have some rope but not a lot. Remember too his comments that the bottom half of the roster has to provide some offence which as we know is Lander’s weakness.

  9. cabbiesmacker says:

    Interesting lines. You could group all three into one and nickname it the Sacrificial Lambs.

    Are the OIlers really believing they have a competitive top 9 just because the kids are maturing? NO pressure there at all. uh uh noooo. Maybe Perron was all they needed to get them over the top? The Omark talk isn’t actually drawing believers is it?

    And Gagner wearing the C in the middle of the flock to boot. Wow. Canucks – H. Sedin. Sharks – Thornton. Kings – Brown, Ducks – Getzlaf, Oilers – Gagner. One of these things isn’t even remotely like the others. It’s so perfect it’s almost Horcoffian.

    It’s not that the Oilers have two left feet as much as they consider themselves smart when they alternate which one to shoot themselves in. I honestly feel for the three #1′s + Eberle.

  10. speeds says:

    FWIW LT, I would still go after Prospal, or potentially Raymond depending on his health. I don’t feel the Omark signing blocks that additional signing.

  11. Lowetide says:

    speeds:
    FWIW LT, I would still go after Prospal, or potentially Raymond depending on his health.I don’t feel the Omark signing blocks that additional signing.

    Prospal would certainly help the group. I keep expecting to hear he’s signing with CBJ or retiring.

  12. Zipdot says:

    Southern Oil: I’d love to see Omark on the club as well. Only because I want to find out if there is a player there. One of the things that management has done over the past number of years, is flush some guys before they know what they have – eg. Brodziak. That is a mentality shared by poor teams. I can’t help but think due to injuries in his second season, we weren’t able to confirm if Omark could grow in other areas of his game. Clearly he has talent on the O side of the puck. We’ll see if he has matured as a player this TC.

    Yeah, man! I feel sort of the same way:
    * A couple of seasons ago, we wondered “what if Ryan Smyth were to return? How cool would that be? … But it would never happen …” – Asked and answered
    * Then we lamented together, “Oh, Mark… When he joins the Red Wings, we’re going to know definitively if we gave up too soon on a superstar or not.” Then when that didn’t happen, we bemoaned the conclusion that we may never really know about this kid. But wait, WHAT’S THIS??

    We actually had our questions answered in both cases. How weird is that!? We were able to, twice, step into that elusive alternate reality where “no way in hell” became “yes way in heaven!”

    Unreal. But very welcome to this observer!

  13. speeds says:

    How might that look?

    Hall-RNH-Eberle
    Prospal-Gordon-Hemsky
    Perron-Gagner-Yakupov
    Smyth-Lander/Arcobello-Jones/Omark,
    Omark/Jones, Joensuu, Brown to the AHL, carrying 7 D?

    Are there enough competent PKers in that lineup?

  14. Lowetide says:

    That LW depth chart is dreamy, and the right side is a killer.

  15. justDOit says:

    Ah Peca. Just the mention of his name brings back my man-crush for this guy. To me, the third most important player on that ’06 run. Finding another center half as good as Peca was would be something special!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkTd0-VooGQ

  16. speeds says:

    Lowetide:
    That LW depth chart is dreamy, and the right side is a killer.

    Prospal at 2.5M (which is what he made last year, if you could get him for less you do so), Brown, Potter, and Larsen in the AHL would leave EDM under the cap:

    http://www.capgeek.com/cap-calculator/roster/31553

    CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
    My Custom Lineup
    FORWARDS
    Taylor Hall ($6.000m) / Sam Gagner ($4.800m) / Jordan Eberle ($6.000m)
    David Perron ($3.813m) / Ryan N.-Hopkins ($3.775m) / Nail Yakupov ($3.775m)
    Vinny Prospal ($2.500m) / Boyd Gordon ($3.000m) / Ales Hemsky ($5.000m)
    Ryan Smyth ($2.250m) / Anton Lander ($0.900m) / Ryan Jones ($1.500m)
    Linus Omark ($0.600m) / Jesse Joensuu ($0.950m) /
    DEFENSEMEN
    Justin Schultz ($3.775m) / Ladislav Smid ($3.500m)
    Nick Schultz ($3.500m) / Andrew Ference ($3.250m)
    Jeff Petry ($1.750m) / Anton Belov ($1.525m)
    Denis Grebeshkov ($1.500m) /
    GOALTENDERS
    Devan Dubnyk ($3.500m)
    Jason Labarbera ($1.000m)
    OTHER
    Buried: Ben Eager ($0.175m)
    Buried: Philip Larsen ($0.100m)
    ——
    CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
    (these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
    SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,437,500; BONUSES: $9,150,000
    CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $685,000

  17. Joel Pepin says:

    So if Lowetide’s (and Speeds’s) lineup prediction is correct, and the rumors about Gagner are correct, then – yet again – we’ll have a 3rd liner Captain? :D

  18. Woodguy says:

    blackdog:
    spoiler,

    based on MacT’s actions so far I would bet Lander will have some rope but not a lot. Remember too his comments that the bottom half of the roster has to provide some offence which as we know is Lander’s weakness.

    Don’t forget about this:

    I wonder if they think he’s turned some kind of corner. Here are his splits this season:
    October through December: 27, 2-4-6 .222
    January through April: 20, 7-7-14 .700
    Playoffs: 8, 5-3-8 1.00

    LT on Lander here: http://lowetide.ca/blog/2013/07/lander.html

  19. Melman says:

    Wouldn’t O’Mark, Gags and Yak would get eaten alive defensively?

  20. Lowetide says:

    Melman:
    Wouldn’t O’Mark, Gags and Yak would get eaten alive defensively?

    You’d have to play them against the soft parade a little, but I don’t think Yakupov is going to be an elevator shaft and Gagner (last season aside) was improving steadily. Omark may or may not have improved, we’ll find out next month. NEXT MONTH!!!!!!!

  21. Racki says:

    I was thinking the same lines when I first heard about Omark being signed. I think it makes a lot of sense, especially since Gagner and Omark have already had some success together.

    IMHO, it lets Yakupov and co eat up the soft parade, and let’s Hemsky strut his stuff with good minutes… showcasing himself for a trade near the deadline (if the Oil wish to go that route). You have to figure the Omark-Gagner-Yak line will be scary in their own zone, but they should be quite effective in the other end of the rink.

  22. russ99 says:

    spoiler,

    The real question is was Omark really cheating, or was it part of his mental war against Renney and his shackling defensive system, who (along with Tambi) unfairly dropped him after his first camp, press boxed him after his second, then sent him down to get slew-footed OKC after he earned a spot both times in preseason.

    And of course Renney pigeonholed him as if he was just another Canadian 2-way player, head down, don’t do anything different and then cut ice time when he did.

    Again, if the Oilers let Omark be Omark and Eakins can succeed where Renney failed and alienated, the Oilers may be surprised in what they get.

  23. RexLibris says:

    Omark could develop into a LW 3rd line replacement for Hemsky, a more natural (and affordable) fit on the depth chart.

    I like Speeds’ suggestion of fitting Omark and Yakupov together on a (presumed) 3rd line. I’d been wondering about those two fitting well together with Omark’s abilities in the corners and his general strength as a setup man.

  24. Bank Shot says:

    We can call the Omark-Gagner-Yakupov line the GAG line. Goal against per game.

    I really hope the Oilers pick up Dan Cleary to play with Boyd and Hemsky.

  25. spoiler says:

    russ99:
    spoiler,

    The real question is was Omark really cheating, or was it part of his mental war against Renney and his shackling defensive system, who (along with Tambi) unfairly dropped him after his first camp, press boxed him after his second, then sent him down to get slew-footed OKC after he earned a spot both times in preseason.

    And of course Renney pigeonholed him as if he was just another Canadian 2-way player, head down, don’t do anything different and then cut ice time when he did.

    Again, if the Oilers let Omark be Omark and Eakins can succeed where Renney failed and alienated, the Oilers may be surprised in what they get.

    I’ve seen Omark play. Nothing about how he was treated was unfair. He deserved it.

    Guys, isn’t Prospal on record as saying the only NHL team he will play for is CBJ?

  26. speeds says:

    spoiler,

    I haven’t seen that, but perhaps I just missed it? There would be some sort of connection through Howson, no idea if that would be relevant in Prospal’s decision making process.

  27. Kitchener says:

    As a relative newcomer to lowetide.ca (12 months?), I’ve been mystified by the taboo around suggesting 9+3 instead of 6+6 when discussing forwards. Everyone pooh-poohs it as if it’ll never happen.

    9+3 makes by far the most sense:
    – drive opposing defensive co-ordinators batty
    – creates room for a couple of mid-level players on the top lines sheltered by the #1 overalls
    – creates a true soft parade for the 3rd unit (Omark, a great LW, and some center?) as the opposition’s top defenders need to rest eventually.
    – rearrange the lines for PP and PK using our true top 6 on PP and players from the 4th line, the 2 plumbers playing in the top 9, and one other guy on PK (Eberle/Gagner/___).

    I’m guessing MacT and Eakins will realize what they have and roll with it. Call it 9+3 or “a bottom six where there’s a threat to score” as you please, but it’s hard to imagine any other configuration for this team this fall. Semantic arguments are useless: the Oil will have a 3rd line that’s a serious threat to score this year.

  28. delooper says:

    Kitchener:
    As a relative newcomer to lowetide.ca (12 months?), I’ve been mystified by the taboo around suggesting 9+3 instead of 6+6 when discussing forwards.Everyone pooh-poohs it as if it’ll never happen.

    A taboo is the kind of thing you never even mention, not even in jest. 3 scoring lines is mentioned here so often (mostly in jest) it’s not so much a taboo, more of a bogeyman. The mysterious unknown!

  29. Lowetide says:

    The thing about 3 scoring lines is this: it’s been so long since the Oilers had SIX legit forwards, let alone 9. And they’ve set up their roster to hve a checking line most times.

  30. delooper says:

    Lowetide:
    The thing about 3 scoring lines is this: it’s been so long since the Oilers had SIX legit forwards, let alone 9. And they’ve set up their roster to hve a checking line most times.

    It seemed like not very long ago the only scoring threat the Oilers had was Hemsky. And when Hemsky was injured, my god that was awful. When we had no crawdads, we ate no crawdads…

  31. Hammers says:

    Never say never . 9 guys who get ice time & bottom 3 getting left overs like 6 minutes a game plus pk time . Face it who cares . Eakins , Acton , Smith , Buchberger and oh yea McT .

  32. delooper says:

    If this season turns out swell, you really ought to lead-off a lot of your threads with some good-old depression-era starvation songs. Are there any Ukrainian era folk songs about starvation and cannibalism from Stalin’s purge?

    Really stick our noses in the odors of the past. Remember, no… dwell in what it was like in the not-too-distant past. We don’t want to get all infected with that new-to-winning, plan-the-parade junk that they do in lesser towns like Toronto. When they introduce the new-and-improved Oilers, I want Hank William Sr. playing in the background.

  33. delooper says:

    I think this is a cover, but OCMS does a pretty-appropriate rendition.

    http://youtu.be/0Z8byDiSyIs

  34. hunter1909 says:

    Bank Shot: We can call the Omark-Gagner-Yakupov line the GAG line. Goal against per game.

    Funniest thing I’ve read all summer.

  35. DeadmanWaking says:

    If every team in the league adopted three skill lines, there’s about 90 guys with cement hands and all-world “skill” at making life difficult for other people who would be heading straight back to the bus leagues.

    If this group of guys wants to keep their job description off the heart-lung machine, they need to severely punish any team that dares to stray into 9+3 territory. If these 30-grit guys have a physical limit of delivering thirty bone-crushing infirmary-ward checks per season, twenty will be delivered according to game circumstance and the other ten will be head-hunting Omark and Co.

    A hard landing awaits those who show up to a Teamster’s rodeo astride a jetpack stabilized Penny Farthing.

  36. Oilking says:

    Hall – Nuge – Eberle take on the toughs.
    Omark – Gagner – Yakupov take on the softs.
    Perron – Gordon – Hemsky as the 2-way / occassional toughs line.
    Smyth – Lander – Jones for occassional shut-down and rest the other lines work.

    See Perron getting a lot of extra starts on Gagner’s line, with Omark playing less time when we want to protect a lead, when the zone start isn’t favourable, and away from home.

    Provided lander does OK or doesn’t have to play too much, this could be a playoff line-up.

  37. gcw_rocks says:

    I posted the same top 9 over at C’n”B when Omark was signed. Going with that line up would allow Eakins to run Hall-RNH-Eberle against the toughs, put Perron – Gordon – Hemsky against second toughs and perhaps less than favourable zone starts, and feed soft minutes to the defensively weaker Omark – Gagner – Yakupov, who we should expect to feast on those kinds of minutes.

  38. prairieschooner says:

    We are playing in a big physical division .
    I am not confident the Gagner smurf line will be successful night in night out

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