THROUGH THE PAST, DARKLY

Ten years ago this summer, I published a top 20 list at hfboards (along with maybe 30 other people). It’s interesting to look back and see the rankings, who covered the bet, who failed, and who absolutely astonished with an NHL career.

SUMMER 2003 LIST

  1. Jarret Stoll (641, 126-209-335)*
  2. Jani Rita (66, 9-5-14)
  3. Marc Pouliot (192, 21-36-57)
  4. Raffi Torres (630, 134-121-255)*
  5. Jesse Niinimaki
  6. Jeff Deslauriers (62, 3.24 .901)
  7. Doug Lynch (2, 0-0-0)
  8. Kenny Smith
  9. Matt Greene (466, 11-52-63)*
  10. Mikhail Joukov
  11. Ivan Koltsov
  12. Brock Radunske
  13. Colin McDonald (52, 8-10-18)
  14. MA Bergeron (490, 82-153-235)*
  15. Ty Conklin (215, 2.69 .906)*
  16. Fredrik Johansson
  17. JF Jacques (166, 9-8-17)
  18. Dwight Helminen (27, 2-1-3)
  19. Tony Salmelainen (70, 6-12-18)
  20. Kalle Olsson

Oilers had 5 successful players from this 20 (Stoll, Torres, Greene, Bergeron, Conklin) and would get another who wasn’t listed at all (Fernando Pisani). There’s only one first round pick (Torres) in the group and the club traded for him. All of the Oiler first rounders (Rita, Pouliot, Niinimaki) failed.

Can you identify the 5 successful players from this year’s top 20?

  1. Darnell Nurse
  2. Oscar Klefbom
  3. Martin Marincin
  4. Marco Roy
  5. Martin Gernat
  6. Jujhar Khaira
  7. Anton Slepyshev
  8. Bogdan Yakimov
  9. Toni Rajala
  10. Dillon Simpson
  11. Anton Belov
  12. Taylor Fedun
  13. Jackson Houck
  14. Mitchell Moroz
  15. David Musil
  16. Brandon Davidson
  17. Mark Arcobello
  18. Andrew Miller
  19. Greg Chase
  20. Kyle Platzer

Are there 5 players who stand out as likely successes on this list for you? I’ll go out on a limb and pick Nurse, Klefbom, Marincin, Roy and Khaira. What’s your ‘top drawer’ list?

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A few things about this list from 2003 ring true, like ‘if you haven’t established yourself as a legit prospect by age 22 you’re in trouble–unless you’re an NCAA grad’; that item and a few other things have been established over the years, I always publish a ‘farm workers’ post every spring and summer to review the things we think we think are true. I wrote this in May, figured it was worth a review.

FARM WORKERS 2013

  1. Men who are over 30 and come out of the minors to establish (0r re-establish) themselves are pretty much a thing of the pastYou’ll find the odd goalie or defenseman but unlike the orginal 6 era very few teams have enough depth and free agency makes it impossible to keep them on the farm. Which is a good thing.  BARONS 12-13: Yann Danis (31) got into three games, perfectly matching hockey’s past. 
  2. Pretty much everyone who is in the AHL past (say) 21 has some issues and is going to do some meandering (this is universal from 1965 through 2009)Barons 12-13: If we exclude Hall and co from the lockout, you bet. Even guys like Paajarvi are working on something (although he’s made solid progress, a reflection of the wisdom of keeping most of your prospects in the AHL for a  significant portion of their entry level deal). 
  3. We shouldn’t expect Rob Schremp to play more career games than Sam Gagner or Andrew Cogliano.Whatever that line in the sand is, that line sticks. BARONS 12-13: I think Paajarvi is going to have a long career, but that’s a guess and he has certainly played enough in the AHL (72 games now) for there to be a gap in GP compared to kids who never played in the minors. 
  4. No minor league regular is likely to do anything incredible like play in 1,000 NHL gamesIt is a rare thing for a player to spend a couple of seasons in the minors and then go on to a 1,000 NHL game calibre career. Barons 12-13: Paajarvi’s played 163 at age 21, he’s certainly ahead of most AHL players at that age. I think he might be that rare item, but we’re still a little ways from knowing if he’ll be an everyday player on a contending team. Let’s mark him down as a possible outlier and check back  each season until he’s 25. If he’s 400+ games by then, I think he’ll have a good shot at 1,000 NHL game. 
  5. If you haven’t established yourself as a prospect of interest by 22 you are in troubleThe players who have graduated to useful NHL careers have at least played some NHL games by the end of their entry level deals. Barons 12-13: Sure, agreed. I think Paajarvi, Hartikainen, Marincin, Lander and now Rajala have done enough to be considered NHL prospects. Pitlick, Hamilton, Pelss, Davidson, Roy, Bunz etc are not yet there but have at least a little time.
  6. Exceptions are college menPlaying 4 NCAA seasons means turning pro at 22, meaning a “late start” for some quality prospects. Barons 12-13: The obvious recent examples are Jeff Petry and this past season Justin Schultz, I think Taylor Fedun is probably on the outside looking in but that’s not established. Young C Andrew Miller wil be a player to follow from this category next season. This is an area Edmonton should be extremely aggressive in moving forward, it’s a great way to increase the depth of that 20-22 year old organizational cluster. 
  7. A large group of players on the current team could be described in the “tweener” divisionHistory tells us we’ll have our answers on men like Schremp, Spurgeon, Roy and Reddox very soon. It also tells us we already have our answer on Colin McDonaldBarons 12-13: Last time it was Hartikainen, Omark, etc and now it’s Cornet, Arcobello, Rajala, Lander. Interesting that Colin McDonald changed the answer. Good for him. 
  8. If we make a list of the minor league RFA’s each summerwe can probably as a group pick the cuts and be fairly closeThat 50 man list gets a haircut every summer. Barons 12-13: Obvious flushes would appear to be Antti Tyrvainen, Alex Plante, Niko Hovinen, Colten Teubert. They haven’t completely cut ties with Linus Omark, but that’s likely to happen this summer too.  
  9. Daniel Cleary, Fernando Pisani and Jason Chimera became productive players in the toughest league on the planet. THEY are the stars in this studyBarons 12-13: Hartikainen, Lander and maybe down the line guys like Marincin are the ones with the best chance to find their way. The AHL is a lot about grinding the flaws out of the players and making them into useful role players for NHL coaching staffs. Play the role, keep the job. Ad-lib like Taylor Hall? See you in OKC. Oilers have passed on skilled men like Schremp and Omark over their recent history, mostly because the really talented offensive forwards don’t spend any time in the AHL. 
  10. For Rob Schremp fans, there’s exactly ONE pure offensive player who made it: Mike WaltonBarons 12-13: Omark didn’t make it, we’ll see about Rajala. The odds are stacked against him in all kinds of ways, not the least of which is the ridiculous NHL depth chart on the wings. 
  11. The future NHLERS are……..If I’m a betting man, these are the winners from the current group to be the new Cleary and ChimeraBarons 12-13: I choose Paajarvi, Lander, Hartikainen and Marincin. I know that’s a lot (four), but Paajarvi is a 10th overall selection, Lander and Marincin are second rounders and Hartikainen is one of those guys who beat his draft number. He’s 52 games into an NHL career that should never have happened based on where he was selected (6th round). 

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49 Responses to "THROUGH THE PAST, DARKLY"

  1. Ducey says:

    Five successful players

    1. Nurse
    2. Marincin
    3. Kharia
    4. Belov
    5. Chase
    6. Moroz
    7. Pitlick
    8. Houck (I don’t count well)

    Not convinced on Klefbom because of the injuries.

  2. Lowetide says:

    Have to say the two guys I wanted to include were Slepyshev and Chase. If that Yakimov kid ever works out, holy hell. He reads like a modern Pete Mahovlich!

  3. russ99 says:

    My 5 are:

    Nurse
    Marincin
    Klefbom
    Musil
    Miller

  4. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    If successful means 150gp for D; 200 for F, I think these folks clear with ease (barring freak injury):

    Darnell Nurse
    Oscar Klefbom
    Martin Marincin

    these guys have a great shot:
    Martin Gernat
    Jujhar Khaira
    Anton Belov
    Anton Slepyshev
    Bogdan Yakimov
    (I haven’t dinged the Russians for KHL. If they want to play in NA, they play in the NHL I’m betting)

    these guys have a limited shot:
    Marco Roy
    Toni Rajala
    Dillon Simpson
    Greg Chase

    The rest will need magic to make it:
    Taylor Fedun
    Jackson Houck
    Mitchell Moroz
    David Musil
    Brandon Davidson
    Mark Arcobello
    Andrew Miller
    Kyle Platzer
    (the centers probably have a slight edge here)

  5. Radman says:

    My list:

    1) Nurse ( Hunch he might end up ahead of S Jones)
    2) Khaira
    3) Klefbom
    4) Marincin (with another team?)
    5) Chase

  6. sliderule says:

    Ducey,

    I think the concern over Klefboms injuries are overblown.

    In 2010-11 he played 49 games and 2011-12 59 games.

    Last year he got run from behind and suffered the shoulder injury.

    Other than that he has been relatively injury free for a defenceman.

    This is especially significant because he has been mostly playing against men not kids

  7. jp says:

    Nurse
    Klefbom
    Marincin
    Belov
    Moroz

  8. borisnikov says:

    I wonder if Fedun holds any resentment towards Nystrom. He had a shot that year, with how bad the oil blue was, and Nystrom stole it away. 2 years flushed down the toilet and opportunity lost. I hope he still gets a chance somewhere.

  9. jfry says:

    Lt, why so high on Roy? The new map?

  10. russ99 says:

    sliderule:
    Ducey,

    I think the concern over Klefboms injuries are overblown.
    In 2010-11 he played 49 games and 2011-12 59 games.
    Last year he got run from behind and suffered the shoulder injury.
    Other than that he has been relatively injury free for a defenceman.
    This is especially significant because he has been mostlyplaying against men not kids

    Understandable, but IMO Marincin is way ahead of him development wise (and only a year and a few months older) plus he should impact the Oilers roster earlier and at a more developed level than Klefbom.

    IMO, if he adds more muscle and gets more physical in the AHL this year, I think Marincin will eventually play more NHL games than Klefbom.

  11. sliderule says:

    russ99,

    I really like Marincin and you have to think he will get at least 10 games in NHL this year.

    He looks like he may have more offensive upside than Klefbom and was able to calm his defensive game down in playoffs.

    Klefbom had a fantastic WJC in 2012 and a very good playoff that spring.

    If one or both of them can eventually be a top four it would be more than we can expect considering our luck with prospects.

  12. oilgreg says:

    1. Nurse
    2. Klefbom

    Talent & skill will carry these two guys through to meaningful careers.

    3. Marincin

    Large, steady defencemen are worth their weight in gold. Marincin is on his way to learning the ‘steady’ part. We just need his weight to be on the other side of 200 lbs.

    4. Moroz

    Tough, fights, and enough skill to play on the fourth-line.

    5. Chase

    Has the attitude needed to get under the skin of the opposition. Just what we need in the bottom six!

    My big hope is that one of the two Russians (Anton Slepyshev / Bogdan Yakimov), turns out to be a top six player. Both would be better.

  13. D says:

    LT,

    I would have been just fine if Bergeron and Conklin didn’t make that original list :)

    From the current group, Nurse, Marincin, Klefbom, Belov and Yakimov.

    Following up from yesterday, although not top 20, I’m keeping my fingers crossed on Bunz.

  14. oilgreg says:

    Thanks LT for all your posts this summer.
    I spent six weeks in Europe, and enjoyed your afternoon posting with my morning coffee, and your morning post with a chilled bottle of white. Thanks to you and the regular bloggers on Lowetide, I was able to keep up-to-date on all things Oilers!

  15. yellow p0ne says:

    1.Nurse
    2.Marincin
    3.Rajala
    4.Houck
    5.Chase

  16. "Steve Smith" says:

    LT, you should probably spend more time reminding people that you had Jani Rita ranked ahead of Pouliot.

  17. russ99 says:

    sliderule,

    Agree, out of our 5 good defensive prospects, we should get at least 2-4 good NHL players. IMO, Musil could shock everyone and turn into another Matt Greene.

    I really like that the org has stockpiled a bunch of quality defenseman prospects.

    Too bad we couldn’t do the same for forwards, thanks to Tambi and his never-ending search for the next Lucic.

  18. Manitoba Oilers says:

    1.Klefbom
    2.Nurse
    3.Marincin
    4.Yakimov
    5.Slepyshev
    ——————————————-
    6.Belov
    7.Rajala
    8.Chase
    9.Gernat
    10.Kharia
    11.Roy

    All will make it but not with the oilers

  19. denny33 says:

    Nurse.

    Klefbom

    Both 1st round selections …

    And after years of futility -and earning the privelage of selecting near the top of the 2nd round at some point some people in here will ask our scouting department for the odd result in later rounds.

    Compared to the previous drafts – 2013 was very, very deep – we need to see results from our scouting department from later rounds.

    Tough to build a team through just 1st round picks – need some success in later rounds.

    According to hockey’s future – the most talented goalie in the draft was had in the 2nd round. Some nice players ( on paper ) taken in the 2nd round this year.

  20. Jordan says:

    The best bets today:

    1 – Anton Belov – He’s arrived at the NHL, he’s a complete package. Highly under-rated.
    2 – Toni Rajala – Has NHL skill, and is playing in the 2nd best league in the world. Will play 400+ games with another team.
    3 – Oscar Klefbom – Likely to start his NHL career this year or next – the GM likes him, which will be enough for 100+ games. Injuries a concern to more.
    4 – Martin Marincin – Needs some seasoning, but size, skill, skating and a mean streak give him as much of a chance as any Dman can ask for.
    5 – Martin Gernat – Almost the same as Marincin, except he’s been injured and is a year younger. Further away.
    6 – Darnell Nurse – Still a long road to go. Injuries are a concern, simply because of style of play – Every player is 1 bad injury away from retirement – since he’s new, he’s got longer to go without getting hurt. If he makes it, he’ll play over 1k.

    The fair bets today:

    7 – Anton Slepyshev – Overager playing overseas. How will he perform in NA? Will he come over?
    8 – Jujhar Khaira – Has shown he can handle the NCAA – how does he stack up in the WHL? Can he produce against the best youth in the world? If so, how much?
    9 – Marco Roy –
    10 – Bogdan Yakimov – If he learns to skate, he’s got a birght future. Still a long road to go. Injuries are a concern, simply because of style of play – Every player is 1 bad injury away from retirement – since he’s new, he’s got longer to go without getting hurt.
    11 – Dillon Simpson – Until he starts playing pro, I can’t help but question his ceiling as a player.
    12 – Kyle Platzer – Interested to see how he performs this year in a larger role. Has potential, and already a tone of desire. Still a long road to go. Injuries are a concern, simply because of style of play – Every player is 1 bad injury away from retirement – since he’s new, he’s got longer to go without getting hurt.
    13 – Greg Chase – Lots of positives floating around him, despite his selelction number. I’m basing this entirely off of what smater people are saying. Still a long road to go. Injuries are a concern, simply because of style of play – Every player is 1 bad injury away from retirement – since he’s new, he’s got longer to go without getting hurt.
    14 – Jackson Houck – Still new and shiny, and seems to have a lot of gumption to go with some scoring skill. Still a long road to go. Injuries are a concern, simply because of style of play – Every player is 1 bad injury away from retirement – since he’s new, he’s got longer to go without getting hurt.

    The long-shot bets today:

    15 – Mitchell Moroz – Does he have the skill and speed to play in the NHL?
    16 – David Musil – Will his skating ever be good enough to play in the NHL?
    17 – Brandon Davidson – Overcame hell to come back to pro. Not sure there’s enough here to be more than a Tweener
    18 – Mark Arcobello – Size will keep him from meaningful NHL employment
    19 – Andrew Miller – Newer than Arco, 2-way C lacking size. Hmmm… where have we heard this before?

  21. Wolfie says:

    Nurse, Klefbom and Marincin should all have careers.

    I’m very high on Khaira. I read about him in a Vancouver paper just before the draft. The columnist also suggested that the Canucks would likely take him at some point. After the Oilers snagged him and seeing the other glowing reports I think this guy is going to have an impact.

    Slepyshev would probably round out my top 5

    I think there’s a good chance 10 of these guys have careers. Roy, Gernat and Yakimov all have high ceilings. Belov will get a chance this year and if he impresses will be in the league for awhile.

    After that, I think the rest of the list will really struggle to get any traction.

  22. fifthcartel says:

    Anaheim signs Fistric.

  23. wheatnoil says:

    fifthcartel:
    Anaheim signs Fistric.

    Poor replacement for Souray (not that there are a lot of better options out there). This is good news for the Oilers. Anaheim is a team they’re going to have to beat to make the playoffs and the loss of Souray for 6 months is going to hurt the Ducks.

  24. Woodguy says:

    Interesting stuff on Stauffer’s show:

    -May have been mentioned, but Steve Smith was on yesterday and said they are changing the dzone coverage system from man to a zone. A “swarm” coverage system where they overload the puck.

    -Eakins will change up the neutral zone system. Smith said that Eakins “didn’t know what RK was trying to do” thanks to Tyler, we understand that now.

    -Bob has Will Acton making the club as 4C and Lander starting on OKC.

    -Had Hordichuck on yesterday and said that he thinks Pitlick has more tools to make the NHL than Harski did, specially skating and “desire”

    Also,

    Russ, Klef is ahead of Marincin in terms of development

    Consider the SEL as same or superior to AHL and Klef’s been there since he was 17.

    I like Marincin, but Klef is ahead..

  25. Jesse says:

    I think the Ducks are likely to fall hard. Obviously the Souray injury is going to hurt them but they had the 5th highest PDO in the league last year, and lost Ryan this offseason as well. Penner is likely to have a good season for them based on poor percentages last yaer despite good possession numbers, but if he doesn’t they’re going into this season minus a lot of the good players they had last year. Really hoping the Oilers can pass them this year.

  26. Hammers says:

    Klefbom , Marinchin,Belov , Slepyshev , Yakimov . Probables but no gurantees ; Nurse Musil & Gernat . With other teams Rajala, Fedun , Simpson .

  27. Woodguy says:

    Marincin has experience on the small ice, but Klef won”t take too long to figure it out.

  28. justDOit says:

    wheatnoil: Poor replacement for Souray (not that there are a lot of better options out there). This is good news for the Oilers. Anaheim is a team they’re going to have to beat to make the playoffs and the loss of Souray for 6 months is going to hurt the Ducks.

    Souray injured? That really is too bad. That’s a very tough injury to come back from – especially for a player pushing 40. Here’s hoping for the best…

  29. dessert1111 says:

    My five bets, just for fun:

    Klefbom
    Nurse
    Marincin
    Houck
    Arco

    Houck gets in for range of skills and character; he seems like the type of guy who makes it as a role player.

    Arco has a range of skills too and proven offensive ability at the pro level. And he can play any forward position. Although if he doesn’t make it this year I reserve the right to change my bet :D

  30. Gerta Rauss says:

    Nick Schultz would look good in an Anaheim uni-maybe we can pry Winnick from them.

    Not sure if Beauchemin will be ready for the start of the season either.

  31. slopitch says:

    I’ll play…

    Nurse, Klefbom, Yakimov, Kharia, Moroz. I think its easy to pick the top 2 ranked prospects but they fit need so well.

    Oh, and Marincin has a career in another jersey.

  32. Factotum says:

    1. Belov
    2. Klefbom
    3. Nurse
    4. Marincin
    5. Roy

  33. denny33 says:

    Woodguy,

    Yes, read that in the Journal blog. …very interesting. It would appear RK ‘s system was very very different than most. In particular, the neutral zone – which almost begs the question what was RK trying to accomplish in the Neutral zone?

    Have a strong feeling along with Dellow’s work and reports of how silly RK’s system was -that the Oil might be poised for a comeback year. Although, I said that last year with your elite young stars playing AHL hockey while most of the NHL was on the couch.

    Regarding Klefbom, I believe it was Bruce McCurdy that reported Klefbom’s skating at the procspects camp was MILES ( my words ) ahead of his prospect peers.

    Really think Klefbom plays this year and is solid. Also, I think Eakins might be just what the young oilers need at this time….

    It must be summer, I am feeling optimistic…..

  34. fifthcartel says:

    Nurse
    Klefbom
    Marincin
    Chase
    Houck

  35. russ99 says:

    Woodguy,

    Klefbom played 44 games the last 2 years. Marincin played 75 games in the AHL, not including playoffs.

    Most people agree that playing against men in the SEL is pretty much akin to the AHL, but the AHL has the smaller ice and a tougher game.

    Also, Klefbom played on a low icetime SEL pairing, and Marincin had massive icetime the second half of last season and into the AHL playoffs.

    I’m pulling for both of them, but Marincin is ahead in my book, despite MacT’s “saw him good” of The Bom.

  36. Numenius says:

    1. Belov
    2. Nurse
    3. Roy
    4. Klefbom
    5. Khaira

  37. Numenius says:

    I’ll play too. Here is my top 5 in the order of NHL games played over their careers:

    1. Nurse
    2. Roy
    3. Klefbom
    4. Belov
    5. Khaira

    I put Belov at 4. but I think he’ll be the first to start a lengthy NHL career. He simply won’t get in as many games as the others due to his age and the Russian factor, but he’s ready and will surprise everyone. Nurse will play the most games. Despite his physical play, he’s a tank and will just keep going. Roy will be next in terms of games played as a quality, skilled top 6 forward. Klefbom will be solid but won’t play as many games due to injury. Same with Khaira.

    I leave out Marincin because I saw him bad (defensively) at the beginning of last year and have doubts about the extent to which he can overcome his defensive weaknesses. He’ll make the NHL for awhile, likely for a different team, but will never break the top 4.

    Of course, I hope and cheer like hell that they all far exceed my estimations and do it in Oil silks.

  38. Ca$h-Money! says:

    I think Nurse, Klef, Marincin, are freebies.

    Khaira because I like him more everytime I see something from him. He just comes across as a kid with a good head on his shoulders, and the frame to make an impact.

    Davidson because there is no kick-in-the-pants quite as effective as a brush with a serious illness. At the end of the day, my thought is usually that the difference between a borderline NHLer and a decent AHLer is almost entirely drive…. and I’ve seen a number of people take big steps forward in life after a brush with cancer. Could be a great story and as someone who has lost too many loved ones to cancer already I’m cheering like hell for him.

  39. Numenius says:

    Numenius:
    1. Belov
    2. Nurse
    3. Roy
    4. Klefbom
    5. Khaira

    Sorry, this was a brain cramp. Please ignore.

  40. Numenius says:

    Ca$h-Money!:

    At the end of the day, my thought is usually that the difference between a borderline NHLer and a decent AHLer is almost entirely drive….

    Agree with this.

  41. theres oil in virginia says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Nick Schultz would look good in an Anaheim uni-maybe we can pry Winnick from them.

    Not sure if Beauchemin will be ready for the start of the season either.

    Make sure to send the dog whistle too.

  42. Woodguy says:

    russ99:
    Woodguy,

    Klefbom played 44 games the last 2 years. Marincin played 75 games in the AHL, not including playoffs.

    Most people agree that playing against men in the SEL is pretty much akin to the AHL, but the AHL has the smaller ice and a tougher game.

    Also, Klefbom played on a low icetime SEL pairing, and Marincin had massive icetime the second half of last season and into the AHL playoffs.

    I’m pulling for both of them, but Marincin is ahead in my book, despite MacT’s “saw him good” of The Bom.

    Solid reasoning.

    I still have Klef ahead, but see your point.

  43. rickithebear says:

    They signed Fiistric to 1YR 900K

    Souray:
    played 16 min with 1st comp forwards facing 3rd comp opposition.
    he was 1.02 Pt/60 and 1.87GA/60
    he played 2.32 min of PK and was well below average 8.24 PKGA

    Fistric
    Played 13 min with 2nd Comp forwrds facing 2nd/3rd Comp opposition
    he was 1.10 Pt/60 and 1.47 EVGA/60 (7th best GEVGA in game)
    he played 2.06 min of PK with 3.49 PKGA/60 (11th best in Game)

    So far:
    Fistric faced tougher comp with worse teamates and produced more offensively @ even and had an elite GA.
    Fistric was one of the best Pk Dmen in the game and far superior to Souray.

    Souray was Anaheims 3option for PP dmen.
    Will be replaced by Vatanen for 3rd option.
    Fistric does not playon the PP.

    Yes! Souray will be missed with Fistric replacing him?

  44. Numenius says:

    I seem to remember reading that the Oilers offered Fistric a $1.5 million multi-year contract earlier this year.

    If that’s true, he must be kicking himself and/or his agent.

  45. DeadmanWaking says:

    The ants are marching this morning, but I’m back to being needlelessly busy so just a quipie:

    The Phthesauri ‘Phthalm, number Eve Twelfths-Twained:

    The word is my playpen; I shall not want. It maketh me snorkel indigo phlegm and leadeth me beside schnapps zephyr.

    A little explanation is in order. In the Phthesauri number system, eve twelfths-twained is denoted IZZ^I0: one rose shy of a fulsome bouquet to the power of beget naught.

    Okay, a leetle more splaining is still in order.

    Z, standing for 12, (pronounced “zed”) comes from the Babylonian fifth (a Babylonian fiffifth shot glass–aka a square fifth or a zz-toss–is just shy of two fingers).

    IZ is formally “zeve” for the eve of Z, but commonly spoken “izzy” meaning a brick shyrt of a load–it got that name because everyone is always muttering “izzy gonna?” at the first sight of a rope or a rail or parallel bars. Easy does it on the zz-toss, or you’ll find yourself arcing Arabian arabesques or bent-over Babylonian balustrades.

    ZI=13 (pronounced “zebo”) is the irascible claybaker’s dozen and the sixth Thibonacci number. The previous Thibonacci number is pronounced “ga zebo”, meaning “the one before zebo” having the value eight. This makes it clear that “eve” designates the previous counting number, whereas “ga” designates the previous sequence item. Thirteen has powerful mystical significance in Phthesaurian culture. “ga zebo” is sometimes spoken to mean “stop while you’re ahead”. With the full pause “ga ga” means “I fully intend to drink both breasts parched to pancakes, so serve ‘em up in either order”. Spoken briskly it means “you dress funny”.

    A dozen zz is a doozy, just a finger shy of thirty ounces: 12*60*(1/5)^2. A double doozy is thus 4% shy of the entire skin. Pulling a “double doozy” is claiming not to have drained the whole thing when everyone knows you only missed a pathetic dribble, which is still on your shirt. This begins in infancy.

    In modern terminology eve twelfths-twained works out to 23 reciprocated. The old notation can be quite confusing. twelve-twain = 24. eve twelve-twain = 24-1 = 23. (eve twelve-twain)th is thus 1/23. But in speech the “th” binds to the root quantity even though it’s calculated last. This kind of thing is why languages die.

    As it happens, a fiffifth bears no relation to fiffiffiffifth, the drinking of human pâté through a long straw–the d’d’d’riveting impetus of hasty towers with more windows than doors.

    Italian zefiro already meant “west wind” from Latin and Greek zephyrus; this may have influenced the spelling when transcribing Arabic ṣifr.

    I didn’t actually know that “zef” meant “west”. Zefiro Division? Well, that can be debated another day. Left up to me it might become the Şifyr Division. To my mind a “ṣifyr” (with the unfledged cedilla) is a chinook that forsakes the alpine beeline breeze-line, coursing Vancouver-Calgary via Dallas just to avoid a few hills.

    __^^^—-

    You know, it just occurred to me that the nature of a leaning tower of copious ferment with more windows than doors could have some bearing on the tradition of praying to the east (first imposed on the upper decks).


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    One day Gack woke up at the base of the edifice and said to himself–while brushing himself down–”you know, towers really should lean, and downwind, too, if at all possible.”

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    Remember people, I’m just posting a quipie here. Please Honour The Fine Thread. It’s a good one. No really–I mean that seriously, even though my native language exists in negative gravitas. So let me repeat that again for emphasis: PHTFT. No really! I’m trying to be serious. Sheesh. Please Honour The Fine Thread.

    The word is my playpen, I shall not want.

    Brought to you by the number five.

  46. prairieschooner says:

    DeadmanWaking,

    Sometime no matter how hard we try………….

    Brought to you by Gary Bussey

  47. regwald says:

    I know this might be silly, but I really like this group of young dmen.

    Nurse, Klefbom, Marincin, Gernat and Musil and to make an even half dozen, I will pick Slepyshev

  48. Rebilled says:

    justDOit,

    ….and Pronger too. Really hope he’s ok.

    1. Nurse
    2. Belov
    3. Marincin
    4. ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬ Klefbom is gonna prove me wrong♩ ♪ ♫ ♬.
    5. Khaira

  49. jp says:

    “Steve Smith”:
    LT, you should probably spend more time reminding people that you had Jani Rita ranked ahead of Pouliot.

    Rita really looked like a can’t miss. Even if the scoring didn’t develop he had the size and speed and 2-way game to be a 3rd liner at worst. But no.

    theres oil in virginia: Make sure to send the dog whistle too.

    Or hold onto it for when the ducks come to town.

    Numenius:
    I seem to remember reading that the Oilers offered Fistric a $1.5 million multi-year contract earlier this year.

    If that’s true, he must be kicking himself and/or his agent.

    I was thinking that too. Oops! In hindsight I’m glad the Oilers didn’t sign him given all the others that have been brought in (that is, I prefer the new additions over Fistric).

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