Penticton City Limits!

by Lowetide

We looked at the 2015 Penticton roster recently, it was a monster that included Connor McDavid, Leon Draisaitl, Darnell Nurse, Ethan Bear, Caleb Jones and others. There are 2,064 NHL games in the books for the 2015 Pentictons.

The following season, 2016, wasn’t quite as impressive. There are 1,352 games contributed from the Puljujarvi group. What about this season?

THE ATHLETIC!

PENTICTON 2016 ROSTER (PRE-TOURNAMENT)

  • RD Ethan Bear-Ethan Bear: “I’m a two-way puck moving defenceman, I can shoot, I can skate, I position myself well.”
  • RD Matt Benning-Kirk Luedeke, The Scouting Post: A defense-first guy who plays bigger and with an impressive physical edge for possessing pretty average size at 6-foot, 200+ pounds.
  • LD Caleb Jones-Genuinely excited to see his progress, Jones true ability was obscured by the scouting reports. He has a chance to enter pro hockey in 2017 as a bona fide NHL prospect if he can repeat the offense. As you may recall, he was given high marks for his speed, size and coverage before draft day.
  • LD Markus Niemelainen-His numbers don’t pop out at you, but this is a player who posted 26 assists on a team with a popgun offense. In his draft year, Niemelainen ranked No. 2 among Saginaw D in points.
  • L Tyler Benson-This is a player I am pulling for, as his draft year injuries cost him a lot of money at the draft.
  • L Drake Caggiula-Caggiula is an exciting option on the wing this year. He is a small forward.
  • R Jesse Puljujarvi-Every summer in Penticton, Oilers fans get to see a fantastic talent. This year, it is a mannish boy from Finland in a 6.03, 208 frame. Scott Cullen has projected him to go 75gp, 12-24-36 and I think that would be a terrific season for him. He is a somewhat unique talent for the Oilers skill lines-big, fast and a quick release.
  • R Patrick Russell-This will be a great chance to see a player who has substantial skills and a strong offensive resume in college. He should be a big factor in Penticton.

OILERS 2022 PENTICTON ROSTER

There is some impressive offense here, with two 40-goal men from junior (Tyler Tullio, Matvey Petrov), another junior who would have scored 50 if he played in 60 games (Xavier Bourgault, 36 in 43) and another pure scorer in college man Carter Savoie. The 2016 Pencticton rookies had four wingers and four defensemen who would play in the NHL, I think the 2022 Penticton crew could send a six-pack of forwards (and Broberg) to the NHL for at least one game.

There are some nice pieces here and my guess is we come away from Penticton convinced stardom awaits several of these young men. Be advised, from someone who knows via the school of hard knocks, this is a small, small sample and the ability to predict future success from this tournament is less than just listing where each was chosen in the draft.

PENTICTON AS A KID

It would be dark in Whonnock when Mom and Dad loaded us in to the back of the 1953 Ford, we’d get our blanket from bed (still warm) and a pillow, curl up and sleep until at least Hope. By the time we hit the canyon, my brother and I were awake, to scare the hell out of ourselves looking out the window. The Fraser Highway through the canyon had danger everywhere, including a nearby cliff that would spell instant death with one wrong move from the car’s operator. It didn’t help that my Dad was prone to outburts (“I told you to pee back at Hope! We’re not stopping!”) and signs along the road that meant well (“Watch for Falling Rocks”) but offered no real instruction about what to do if a falling rock was headed for your vehicle.

Getting to the Okanagan was fantastic if you were 10, because parents would buy baskets of fruit on the roadside, thinking they could eat some while setting up the campsite later. Of course my brother and I would eat several pieces of fruit and be sick shortly after arriving at camp.

The campsite setup for my family was basically a series of outrageous orders by my Dad (“bring me the ax!” or “how many times do I have to show you a three-sixteenths before you know what a three-sixteenths looks like?”) followed by calming words from Mom to me (“it’s okay, I don’t know what it looks like either”) or edgy words from Mom to Dad (“if you’re so smart why didn’t you take it over there?”) followed by a long period of no talking.

My Dad would whistle. Not melodic whistling, just drone whistling. It wasn’t one ounce musical, and there was no identifiable tune. Just a completely irritating noise. Once he set up the tent, which I believe saw various European countrysides during the war (based on the writing on the side), he would walk over to the Coleman stove (my Mom would have coffee on the moment we landed), pour a cup of coffee and say something like “this is the life.” If it rained, we’d play cards, if it was sunny there was usually something for kids going on in the campground. Supper would be something from the Hibachi (salmon on a Hibachi is pretty close to heaven) and probably more fruit.

My favourite memory of those 1960’s trips up the canyon was the sound of my parents voices at the end of the day, when my brother and I went to bed. They were calm, content, happy voices, maybe even planning something fun and exciting for the next day or for the house back home. I don’t really remember the details, only the contentment in those voices. It’s funny what you remember from your childhood.

LOWETIDE AND JAMIESON

It’s 10-2 today on TSN1260, we have a great lineup. Dom Luszczyszyn from The Athletic will join us to talk about the top 100 players in the NHL, and how close the battle for top spot is right now. We’ll be joined by Steve Lansky to talk Jays and Federer, and we’ll preview Elks-Roughriders and the Penticton series. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Friday!!

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106 and 106

The game of hockey on ice is back.

have mercy.

dessert1111

With the video quality and not recognizing all the numbers and the scrambly play it’s hard to get much of a read on the players but in general I thought the players played how I’d expect based on their experience/age and pedigree. The top line looked very skilled but let’s see how they look in NHL preseason.

The only minor down arrow for me was Philp since at his age he should be dominant if he was a good prospect but he’s coming from CIS so needs some time. On the flipside, I’d bet good money that Tullio becomes a regular NHLer. His game looks like it’ll translate very well. Looking forward to seeing him against higher competition.

One last thing that’s probably not a huge deal, but I noticed Savoie back checking pretty hard, which was nice to see given his reputation in his draft year. High upside guy.

NorwegianOiler

The “falling rocks sign” isn’t as much about the moment the rock falls, at which point it’s just a death lottery; but the fact that rocks that have fallen may already be in the road – so you ought to compensate for this going around bends, as there’s a higher chance here (than elsewhere) that rocks are blocking the path.

Victoria Oil

Elks win! Against a western conference team to boot. It’s a miracle!

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kgo

Holloway is going to force this team’s hand…20 games tops in the AHL and he won’t look back.

OriginalPouzar

I think he’s on the team by December.

He may force them out of camp but its a tough lineup to crack right now, isn’t it? Even if Foegele or Jesse gets moved there are enough established guys for the top 9.

With that said, given we know he’s going to play in the NHL this year, in order not to add $500K to his cap hit, he’ll be on the opening cap compliant roster submission so, even though his $925K likely works against him, he will be fit in to a cap compliant roster.

kgo

Even if he’s the 3rd best winger in camp he will get cut for seniority, cap, waivers, rookie reasons…But he will dominate the AHL and force a recall likely by December as you said.

kgo

I think Bourgaults’ best development path is a full AHL season, perhaps a call-up for skill guy injury, 5-15 games in the show.

OriginalPouzar

I anticipate this is exactly the plan.

kgo

Broberg looked fantastic with the puck on his stick, a little lost defending the front of the net, but very quick to collect loose pucks and win 50-50 battles…mostly up arrows to my eye…He’s going to get exposed a-la- Justin Schultz a few times…thankfully he’ll be 3rd pair, play only 30-50 games this year as he develops into a star..

OriginalPouzar

I hope he plays more than 30-50 games as 30-50 probably means he’s injured and/or struggling more than we hope or expect. There will be ups and downs for sure and, yes, he’s likely to get the odd night off here and there but I think he is likely to play pretty much nightly. I know Ryan Murray is in the mix but I think the plan is for Broberg to play. Getting used to an 82 game grind is part of developing as well, right?

kgo

I present to you, Kenneth Holland….and the most recent body of evidence, Evan Bouchard’s 2020-2021 season.

OriginalPouzar

Adam Larsson, Ethan Bear (coming off a season playing top pair) and Tyson Barrie vs. Darnell Nurse, Brett Kulak and XXXX (Ryan Murray).

Also, draft plus 3 vs. draft plus 4.

Also, 2021 season with no ability to get players up from the AHL team (practically).

Also, Tippet/Playfair vs. Woody/Manson.

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YYCOil

Great atmosphere in the rink today. Lots of hockey royalty walking around. Woody and Manson sat in the seats in the Oilers defensive end (for 2 periods) and shook hands and took pictures with everyone.

flyfish1168

Missed the game. I really wanted to see Schaefer and see how his skating compared to the other players. Did he look slow or was his pace of play pretty good for a big guy?

€√¥£€^$

He isn’t quick, straight-line speed is good after 2 or 3 steps. He is faster than Maroon, as an example.

OriginalPouzar

As he’s talked about the last two weeks (and as we saw late in the AHL season/playoffs last year), Holloway having NO issues shooting the puck – ripping it!

Material Elvis

He’s good. Got robbed on that one-timer.

TheTikk

Don’t mean to be rude, but who’s doing colour and is this his first time making language sounds with his face?

Material Elvis

He pronounced Bourgault’s first name Zah-vee-yay.

€√¥£€^$

His name is Jamie Thomas, Jets radio colour commentator. Not new to talking on the radio. His pronunciation and cadence is very odd, he almost stutters. I thought he was nervous, but I think this is his style.

We’ve been extremely blessed in Edmonton to have such good quality professional hockey talkers over the years.

https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/winnipeg-jets–cjob-announce-play-by-play-team-and-exclusive-programming/c-319832364

€√¥£€^$

Yes something was off there. The cloud guy was speaking much quicker in the third, but his volume was muted. Something funky was clearly going on there.

Material Elvis

I like Wanner’s game — there’s some potential there for sure. Holloway is a blazer; fast like Ryan McLeod. Savoie got filled in by Kubicek and Schaefer came over looking to fight him but the refs broke it up quickly (no fighting injuries this tournament please).

kgo

I just re-watched the 2022 BOA to get the juices flowing….one thing I didn’t realize was the game 5 OT winner developed directly from Nurse dump in. The flames stood him up at the blueline, he made the safe dump play into Connor’s corner, the defender won the race but got stripped within a half second…Connor up the wall to Drai, the rest is history….all from a GOOD OL FASHION DUMP N CHASE

Material Elvis

Carter Savoie is not just a scorer. Sweet feed for the first goal.

€√¥£€^$

I was able to catch the last 1:28, hopefully the entire game will be available later.

Material Elvis

The period was very similar to past tournaments. Very scrambly, disjointed play with a few nice individual moments. Bourgault’s skill is obvious; the Condors veterans are a step above (Hamblin and Kesselring were notable; Savoie had a chance in front of the net after a nice toe drag move and his PP assist was top quality; Schaefer looked like an 18 year old struggling with the pace; Kielb scored the goal and looks like a very smart player.

OriginalPouzar

Kielb was a revelation last season. He was on an ECHL deal and had to play on the Condors on a tryout when called up and, my goodness, did he ever kill it with the Condors last season.

€√¥£€^$

Wow this Jets guy sure is nervous…

€√¥£€^$

Aaaand it’s of course not working, haven’t seen a second of the game yet, iPad it is then ☹️

€√¥£€^$

I am watching the game on my smart tv via YouTube on OilersTV

Bulging Twine

That Schaefer kid is one big hombre

godot10

Hypothesis: Bettman leveraged his influence over the Kane settlement to suggest that Kenny should not attempt to recapture cap space on Keith’s retirement.

Can we subpoena all the texts,e-mails, letters, phone calls, and communcations between Bettman and Holland?

€√¥£€^$

I think the loudest voice regarding both situations would and should be the NHLPA.

Both are completely separate situations and in any fair and just system that has Union implications one such grievance should never be leveraged over the other. At a macro level this is (or should be) about fair compensation of NHLPA members, not individual teams or employers.

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OriginalPouzar

If anything should be grieved in this it should be the NHLPA “grieving” their boss in Donald Fehr for not ensuring the corollary of the cap recapture penalty is included in the CBA – there is nothing to grieve on not receiving a cap benefit vis-a-vis the recapture rules because its not provided for in the CBA.

This could have been a fail in the collective bargaining process but not in the current situation vis-a-vis Keith.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Sorry it I’m missing something here, but what’s the difference on legacy contracts like Keith’s compared to (say) that of Luongo?

Redbird62

Each of Florida and Vancouver had paid Luongo more while he played for them than the cumulative cap hit they recorded when he retired early so both had to have a cap recapture. Only Chicago paid Keith more in salary than reflected in their cap hit while he played for them before he retired.

OriginalPouzar

The cap recapture provisions of the CBA provide a cap hit penalty to a team where they have the player on a “front-loaded” portion of a deal where they had an aggregate cap hit of less than the aggregate amount of salary/bonuses they paid.

The provisions do NOT provide for the opposite, a cap benefit for a team who has a player that retires after they paid him more than his cap hit.

Chicago is getting dinged on Kane as per the provisions.

Nothing provides for the Oilers to benefit from the retirement (in addition to his cap hit coming off the books).

jp

The provisions do NOT provide for the opposite, a cap benefit for a team who has a player that retires after they paid him more than his cap hit.

I completely agree with this. I believe the initial mention of NHLPA here is because the NHL players as a whole are losing money from their salary pool in his cap recapture situation.

Whatever amount some are arguing should go to Edmonton (forgetting the exact number at the moment) is being lost from the salary pool.

Whether that money ($3.3M, was it?) should go to Edmonton is debatable. And I agree there are no provisions that say it should.

But what is more clear, I think, is that the NHLPA does/would have a legitimate case that that $3.3M should go to the players in some manner.

OriginalPouzar

Should it though? The player got paid more actual cash than their cap hit – more real money went to the players than the 50% allocated to that players individual cap, right?

jp

Yes, but Chicago is being forced to pay back the entirety of that difference (the difference between Keith’s salary and Keith’s cap hit for 21-22 and 22-23). So the players and owners are square regarding Keith’s contract based on Chicago’s cap penalty.

Yet the Oilers carried Keith’s full cap hit last year, so the total pool of money going to the players last season was reduced by $3.4M. I believe that’s on top of Chicago’s cap penalty, which in itself makes the players square with the owners.

Redbird62

Once Kane signed the multi year deal with Holland, he was going to be an Oiler no matter what happened in the arbitration. His old contract being re-instated and him being sent back to San Jose had almost no chance of happening. The outcome was only ever going to be about money, so there was no leverage for anyone to connect anything to the Keith retirement outcome.

McSorley33

Took a long time off for the summer and I come back to this piece of beautiful writing from
our gracious host.

Love LT’s family. Love the stories of his youth.

I can picture the campsite.

Thank you sir.

winchester

Awesome memory lane write up once again LT!

My dad had us kids convinced that “Falling Rock” was a bad Indian fellow that would throw rocks from the cliffs. Watching for him would pass at least ten minutes of the trip as we searched the cliffs to try and see him in case he was of the mind to hurl some rocks this day.

And the danged Enchanted Forest! For ten years dad would never stop, we gotta make time! (more like save $) Same with The Flintstones Park. Anyway, I always stop at the Enchanted Forest now, its a beautiful entertaining little stop and the kids love it.

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DieHard

Those 60’s trips just flashed great memories. Mom, Dad and 3 boys (I’m in the middle). From Edmonton to Kelowna and staying at Blue Bird Bay resort. Little cabins on the lake. Of course Kelowna is a lot different today plus the roads are a tad better too.

Gerta Rauss

For us old timers Pat from Black Dog Hates Skunks is writing over at Oilers Nation – a fresh post dropped this morning

Diablo

I’ve never him seen him so pumped about our team.

PennersPancakes

Those prospect wingers are something else. Without jinxing the team you have two near locks in Holloway/Bourg then 4 real prospects in Schaefer/Savoie/Tulio/Petrov.

It is going to be exciting seeing Tulio and Savoie in the AHL. Tulio is giving some serious gallagher vibes. 5th round picks, a couple inches and couple pounds in size, similar scoring and penalty rates, both insane motors and impressive fitness testing.

Gallagher was drafted in 2010 and was playing meaningful games in the NHL in 2012-2013. Just sayin

Reja

We need a pest in the line-up that’s defensively aware yet is a threat to score.

Harpers Hair

@frank_seravalli

Sounds like Evander Kane will receive a one-time payment from #sjsharks and the cap penalty for San Jose will be retroactively applied to last season’s salary cap.

#sjsharks ended last season with just under $5 million in space, according to @CapFriendly.

kelvjn

Does it implied he got less than 5M from SJ in compensation to make up the difference in earnings? 3 mil for last year and 1M for the next two year kind of deal?

Otherwise what would it mean for the eschew?

€√¥£€^$

It means that there is no impact on either team this season or moving forward. SJ had ample space to cover this amount in last years’ Cap Space. This was a very tidy piece of business, IMO. So it is a completely clean break for both parties and no impacts to our hometown team!

Harpers Hair

San Jose is paying Kane $2.5 million which is the difference between what they owed him and what the Oilers will be paying him on his new contract.
San Jose gets off very easy considering the cap hit is applied to last season.

Reja

Kane had San Jose by the short hairs. Everyone leaves the meeting happy, we are going to get full value on the Kane contract.

106 and 106

The watch for falling rocks sign is continually perplexing.

Other than screaming, is there any actionable advice when a boulder is coming at you?

Side

Stand perfectly still and watch the rocks change direction and hit the nearest coyote.

McSorley33

Gold. Pure Gold

elgruntus

grab an umbrella

TheGreatBigMac
€√¥£€^$

For those interested here is this years’ PTO List (Demers not on this list at the time of posting):

https://www.capfriendly.com/professional-tryouts/2022

Reja

I wonder who’s going to win or lose the Virtanen sweepstakes.

godot10

What is “winning” and what is “losing” in this case?

€√¥£€^$

Fanti confirmed as the starter tonight.

TruthHurts98

As a B.C. boy familar with those routes and having a dad yelling into the backseat while navigating though the guardrail section of termination. I love your vivid story telling and how it relates to hockey too. Cheers and thank you!

MushedPeas

Many family trips through the Rockies and Coastal mountains. My Pa’s from north of Saskatoon – hates heights and enclosed spaces. Quite something, as a kid, seeing his knuckles go white on some of those turns and passes.

Justthestatsman

I have some great memories from the camping days of my youth. For me it’s funny how the camping hardship stories become fond memories as the decades pass.

I probably should have persevered more with my own offspring and given them more camping opportunities (whether they liked it or not!)

The kid’s opposition to outhouses and my own fear them being eaten by wild animals often led us to make other vacation choices.

OriginalPouzar

Per Tony Brar:

Oilers Prospects lineup at Morning Skate:

Holloway – Hamblin – Bourgault 
Petrov – Philp – Tulio 
Schaefer – Engaras – Savoie 
Kambeitz – Dubinsky – Chiasson

Broberg – Wanner
Dorey- Kesselring
Kielb – Kemp

Unclear on G. Will confirm with Chaulk this AM.

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WOW!!!!!

Holy he’ll look at that RW depth.

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€√¥£€^$

This is fantastic! Clearly this is the “A Team”. Dorey is the only undrafted WHL invitee who I think has a shot at an NHL contract.

Cool to see that my view lines-up with the Oilers perspective.

Todd Macallan

Wow, I bet that lineup could win a few early preseason games even.

Side

Could probably win a few games against the worst DoD Oilers team, too.

Giggleplex

Wanner on the first pair is quite interesting. Seems like this kid just keeps on improving.

GB&Q

Patrick Russell, we hardly knew ye.

elgruntus

Remember that time he scored a goal….then didn’t? Damned offside rule ruined his career totals

Reja

I’m still pissed about that replay I believe that it was somewhere in a improbable streak of 10-11 replays lost in a row. That goal should of counted as well as many others in that streak. The only replay we ever won that was a toss up was the Coleman Goal where he admitted after that he tried to kick it in. The Makar Goal was pure utter nonsense if it was reversed where Nurse crossed the blue line in that fashion it would of been ruled offside, end of discussion.

€√¥£€^$

It was 16, I think, perhaps it got up to 19 or 21, details are foggy for me….

I am sure Bruce McCurdy remembers, he wrote an article referencing this phenomenon.

Reja

Every replay went against us how about the OT goalie interference on Connor whose Goal got squashed because Brian Burke buddy disallowed it. There was 90% of the league personal who are ex players that hated the OBC. The OBC showed no mercy and embarrassed them on many occasions. The only thing that turned the tide was Holland who had nothing to do with the beat downs the Oilers laid on the entire league in the 80’s.

stephen sheps

Is it wrong that when I saw the title of today’s post, I immediately went to the great Propagandhi album (and song, which ironically appeared an album later) Potemkin City Limits?

If Dustrock (or even more unlikely either Stevezie or Square Wheels) happen to log in today, I’m leaving this here for the 3 of you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b13fwMvvgl4

LT, that please keep these camping stories coming. I’m sure your kids have heard them 1000 times before, but one day they’ll look back on these stories and appreciate that you’ve been archiving your family’s history for them on the blog. You wrote a book on the Oilers history, but along the way it seems as though you’ve written your autobiography too… and it’s very good.

dustrock

nice one!!!

Saskie

When LT puts all these great childhood stories into a book I will be first in line to buy. It would be nice if sometime in the future LT took up a few spots on my book self.

Hockey Project

My childhood during the summer: waking up and hearing my father pump away at the Coleman, along with the smell of frying bacon.

buck yoakam

Ha!…how about the tulip bacon in the can…it was yummy! We travelled twice from edmonton to nova scotia and back with five to seven children and the folks…1958 ford ranch wagon with one of those suction cup roof racks with the tent and all our clothes in it…had to turn around once as we lost that on the highway (we were able to retrieve it though) There of us in the back with a few sleeping bags…those were the days (no seatbelts back then also! )

€√¥£€^$

Thanks for the memories LT!

I spent my first few years growing up in BC and then moved to my father’s rural Albertan hometown when I was 9. My mother’s father was a rural Albertan and her mother was from Saskatchewan, but she was born and raised in BC.

From Surrey we made a few memories driving towards Alberta and back, my father bought a brand new ‘74 Explorer, threw a canopy on it, tossed a big old sponge mattress in to the truck box and hooked up an intercom. Talk about luxury!

All 3 kids and the dog had a very comfortable ride. Both my parents smoked too much, so this arrangement spared me from the constant car sickness I was always dealing with in the old smelly Meteor and spared my parents from our constant noise.

Lots of fruit stand memories (found a large spider in the peach I was eating one time, I was horrified and fascinated at the same time), camping memories (like the time my naked younger brother danced inside the front of the open tent trailer door, the top half closed- he couldn’t see out, so thought no one could see him) and of course the fish.

Those we’re amongst the best of times of my childhood.

Todd Macallan

Which rural AB town was it that you moved to? I only ask because I have family in almost every one north of Red Deer, so I may know it haha.

€√¥£€^$

I grew up midway between Onoway & Calahoo. Went to school in Onoway.

OriginalPouzar

Wright said the weakest area of proposed depth is at center. Said it’s noted that they have McDavid, Drai, Nuge, McLeod and even Ryan and Shore. Then went on to talk about Philp having an opportunity to rise. Zero mention of Holloway as a center.

godot10

This perplexes me. One should assess Holloway’s potential as a centre, because it he can play centre, it opens far more options for the Oilers roster over time.

€√¥£€^$

The pressing need is at wing, it is easier for young player to make it as a winger in the NHL. He has a lot of track in front of him, perhaps this is where he lands in 2 or 3 years (see Draisaitl).

OriginalPouzar

Tyler Wright on Tulio: we’ve been hard in him with respect to fitness and conditioning and he tested at the top – he’s put in the work.

OriginalPouzar

Per Seravelli:

As @KevinWeekes reported, Evander Kane and #sjsharks have made progress on grievance settlement. It’s in the process of being papered.

Expectation is #sjsharks will have a salary cap charge and Kane will be due money from SJ.

Both sides mitigate all or nothing arbitration risk.

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Happy for Evander.

Reja

This is why he signed the discount in Edmonton plus he’s going to score many Goals this year.

Diablo

Trade Alert … trade completed by Edmonton and San Jose. Edmonton receives Evander Kane, and the Sharks eat 2.5 million of his salary per year for 3 years. Edmonton sends San Jose … a nice gift basket?

Reja

It’ll be interesting to see what Mikey has in store for the rebuild of the sharks. Same goes with Guerin in Minnesota.

Bank Shot

All of the top nine wingers in the projected lineup for this season are legit prospects. You can’t say that about the 2016 squad.

The current team should do pretty well this year. The C and D are pretty barren of legit prospects outside of Holloway and Broberg, but they still have an advantage there. They are mostly old.

Hamblin, Philp, Engaras, Kemp, Kesselring, and Kielb are all 22+, and older guys tend to show well in this tourney even if their upside is limited.

I’m excited to see Fanti play. Hopefully he can surprise us all. Holland has a short track record with goalie acquisitions with the Oilers but so far he’s batting 1000% (Smith, Forsberg).

meanashell11

We used to camp with my mother and her parents, dad was always working and could never make it. I remember once at Grouse Mtn, we were in the parking lot after taking the gondola to the top and walking down. My grandfather was in the backseat and my mom had the drivers door open. He had is hand around the, I guess it was a support for the roof between the front and back doors, and my mom slammed the drivers door shut. All he said was “Loraine, can you open the door.”

She had shut the door on his entire hand/fingers. Broke every one except the thumb. He never said a word…….

Brantford Boy

Ouch! Similar thing happened to me getting into the back of a minivan holding the door jam… no broken fingers, but excruciating pain!

meanashell11

Door jam, that’s it!

Brantford Boy

Between the front and back sliding door (door jam)… driver closed his door on my 4 fingers wrapped in his door while I was getting in the back. Anyway, I’m sure the car doors were much heavier and without the cozy padding sealing the door that I experienced in comparison with your grandfather… still hurt like hell!

Shaun VanAllen's mom

Your grandfather was one tough hombre.

Ancient Oilers Fan

Gramps must have been a farmer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni0YfrSK570

Reja

Lol.

meanashell11

He was a mechanic from Loon Lake, Sask!

Victoria Oil

Did the same thing to my older brother when I was 4 years old. Don’t think he ever forgave me for that.

OriginalPouzar

Hope the boys aren’t too hung over from Keith’s house last night.

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So many from this season that will/could/should play NHL games.

Of course, Holloway, Bourgault and Broberg are locks and likely locks for hundreds of games.

Schaeffer should play games but how many and how material is up in the air. I’d almost put Kesselring in that cateogry but I’m higher on him than most.

The likes of Fanti, Hamblin and Philp likely have at least a couple of NHL games in their career (perhaps this year) but could be no more than cups of coffee, or, we can see the next Arcobello and D. Ryan.

Petrov, Savoie, Tulio, Wanner, Kemp – really tough to know who will make it and who will not be able to……..

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Hearing that Broberg/Wanner will be paired up (from Wanner’s interview yesterday) and Stauff thinks:

Holloway/Bourgault
Savoie/Schaeffer
Petrov/Philp

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The value from Philp won’t be his offense, but has many skills. He has always been responsible defensively, so it is quite possible he ends up as a solid 4th line PKing RHC.

Scungilli Slushy

If he can be good at faceoffs at the nhl level he can up his chances a big whack

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He was above 50% in Seattle (I am pretty certain in glancing at the information from each GP, by eye I think he will land at around 54-55%), so I have found the raw data, but not his season average. I intend on crunching the numbers before game time, for my own interest, at least.

I will share this here, though.

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Brantford Boy

Amazing story LT, love it!

I spent the summers of my youth camping with my grandparents. Oh the lessons of life you learn. One I remember dearly, don’t tell your grandfather you lost his change on the way back from getting ice cream at the park office store (with arcade machine). It seemed like I spent an eternity sitting on the roof of that Ford LTD II with my legs dangling over the windshield driving slower than the posted 10km/h limit looking for the money I’d “lost” with a flashlight. We never did find it… yeah, I’m pretty sure he knew what he was doing.

Cahoon

Love the camping story LT. My grandma would organize a camp for a week once a year with all her kids and grandkids. Grandpa would insist that if we were camping it had to be in the bush, nowhere with power sites (that’s not camping), and would scoff at people bringing campers. The point of camping to him was roughing it. He was a WW2 vet and much of your descriptors for your dad sound like my grandpa. I want trout from the nearby river on the campfire so bad now hahaha. Folks if you have kids take them camping, there will be treasures memories for a lifetime.

LadiesloveSmid

I hear this Brogan Rafferty fellow could be a star, just one more year of seasoning