PLAYGROUND NEXT TO A SEWER SYSTEM

The Edmonton Oilers made a lot of bets this summer, and some are looking very good (Joensuu, Belov) while others are looking like 30 minutes out of 60 (Grebeshkov).  The Joensuu item is a big deal, because if he’s  any good at all that sets up the top 9F well.

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THEFT!!! (BOYS ON THE BUS TRAINING CAMP CORSI NUMBERS)

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Here’s the deal: This chart is direct theft from Parkatti, so click here and read the original. I wanted to post it because this is a killer graph top to bottom. There are a few things I want to point out, beginning at the top:

  1. Jesse Joensuu arrived in camp with a one-way deal but there’s still work to be done. He did the work and now is set to begin the season with a regular shift and possibly some powerplay time. Terrific pre-season.
  2. Ryan Smyth. How many times in the last few years has he had linemates like Hall and Hemsky?
  3. Ales Hemsky. Ha! He’s got miles and miles left.
  4. Anton Belov. He’s improved every game, might end up being the bargain of the year.
  5. Nail Yakupov. Despite one insanely bad game he’s a killer. And a kid.
  6. Lander beat Acton by quite a bit. The roster final pretty much follows the shot differential except here. Eakins ‘go with what you know’ helped Acton in my opinion.
  7. Cameron Abney.
  8. Ryan Hamilton beat Ryan Jones.

Anyway, that was a pretty cool wrap on training camp, wanted to have it for future reference. Hope you don’t mind, Michael.

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 THE CERTAIN OILERS (16)

  • Goalies (2) Devan Dubnyk and Jason LaBarbera
  • Defensemen (5) Jeff Petry and Ladislav Smid, Justin Schultz and Andrew Ferense, Nick Schultz
  • Centermen (2) Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (inj), Sam Gagner (inj), Boyd Gordon
  • Left Wing (3)  David Perron, Jesse Joensuu, Ryan Smyth
  • Right Wing (4) Jordan Eberle, Nail Yakupov, Ales Hemsky, Ryan Jones, Steve MacIntyre

Ryan Jones is on waivers this morning, and Renaud Lavoie suggested last night there are a couple of teams looking at claiming him. I think the Oilers will be fine with it either way, his cap hit off the books gives them a little more wiggle room. I’m always surprised when someone puts in a claim, one would think if you’re willing to do that then a 7th rd pick is worth knowing you’ll get the player for certain. Either way, Jones not being on the team means there’s room for one more player. He is the only player (so far) I projected onto the opening night roster who won’t be on it.

 THE UNCERTAIN OILERS (9)

  • Goalies (none)
  • Defensemen (4): Anton Belov, Denis Grebeshkov, Corey Potter, Phil Larsen, Oscar Klefbom, Martin Marincin, Taylor Fedun
  • Center (2): Anton Lander, Mark Arcobello, Will Acton, Andrew Miller
  • Left Wing (2): Linus Omark, Ryan Hamilton, Ben Eager
  • Right Wing (1): Mike Brown

There are 7 spots left now (based on 16 names above) and 9 men here. If we IR  Grebeshkov and Potter, that’s your 23 man roster ladies and gents. Long on big men, long on unproven men. Would you rather have Ryan Hamilton than Ryan Jones? Ben Eager over Lennart Petrell? Will Acton over Eric Belanger?

 THE OUTSIDERS (1)

  • Goalies (0): Richard Bachman, Olivier Roy, Tyler Bunz, Ty Rimmer
  • Defensemen (0): Brad Hunt, Martin Gernat, Brandon Davidson, David Musil, Darnell Nurse, Joey Leach
  • Centermen (0): Ryan MartindaleCJ Stretch, Travis Ewanyk
  • Left Wing (1): Curtis Hamilton, Austin Fyten, Kale Kessy, Mitchell Moroz, Jujhar Khaira
  • Right Wing (0): Tyler Pitlick, Matt Ford, Derek Nesbitt, Cameron Abney

One man standing, and he hasn’t played a game. I know Hamilton had an injury late last season so one wonders if he’s going to be placed on long term IR or eventually sent down to OKC. Either way, this time off isn’t good for Hamilton and his career, and there’s a chance the club just walks away at some point.

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OPENING NIGHT LINEUP

  • L1: Hall-Smyth-Hemsky
  • L2: Arcobello-Perron-Eberle
  • L3: Gordon-Joensuu-Yakupov
  • L4: Acton-R Hamilton-Brown
  • D1: Smid-Petry
  • D2: Ference-J Schultz
  • D3: N Schultz-Belov
  • SG: Devan Dubnyk
  • BG: Jason LaBarbera
  • Scratches: D Phil Larsen, L Ben Eager, L Steve MacIntyre

That’s my guess, you may have some differing ideas and please post. I do think the club will want to add a 5th C option, but they may wait until the Nuge is ready. They have enforcers in all weight classes, that seems to be a bit of a luxury.

The bottom line is this: the Oilers have (when all forwards are healthy) probably 10 forwards who can play with skill, and three guys who aren’t going to be moving the puck in a good direction. At some level, there’s a point in the forward roster that can best be described as putting a playground next to a sewer system. I don’t think the club will carry three enforcer types all year long, or even for long.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

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This morning at 10, we have a busy lineup today. Scheduled to appear:

  • Tom Lynn from Veritas Hockey. We’ll talk about the business of hockey, the agents role in placing players and the activity levels at this time of year in terms of roster changes. 
  • Scott Cullen from tsn. Baseball season, hockey stories and tsn’s top 50.
  • Patricia Teter from Artful Puck. Patricia has been at Barons camp and will pass along the latest.
  • Ryan Van Bibber from SB Nation. We’ll talk Rams-49ers.
  • Ryan Batty from Copper and Blue. We’ll talk Ryan Jones on waivers, the bottom of the F roster, and playoff expectations in light of the injuries.

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105 Responses to "PLAYGROUND NEXT TO A SEWER SYSTEM"

  1. RMGS says:

    How about Arcobello between Joensuu and Yakupov being fed soft minutes and Gordon with Perron and Eberle sharing the toughs with the Hall line?

  2. Fixall with Rexall says:

    Somebody claiming Jones would really open the door to a trade but I’m a bit more skeptical that it doesnt happen. I don’t see anybody needing what he brings for what he costs when I’m sure every organization must have a cheaper in house option.

  3. Lowetide says:

    OKC Barons roster has Joel Broda wearing #13, Hamilton’s number with the Barons.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlxzSmUsZtlXdEo4bWNWWkE4UUkzeEpFbHNkTzdiZFE#gid=1

  4. goldenchild says:

    That 4th line looks to be worse than last years’ albatross but I guess the hope is that Eakins runs the top 6 or 7 guys enough that it wont matter much. I agree on Smyth looking good with better linemates but I just dont see how he can be expected to play top 6 minutes all year long, seems like a lot to ask. Im guessing they hope he can get them 6 weeks or so and when Nuge and Gagner come back Smyth will see his minutes dramatically drop.

    One thing I found really intersting was a comment Ferraro had about Yakupov that I think he attributed to Eakins which was that he is such a dynamic singular player that it doesnt really matter that much the types of players you play with him, he will still create offense.
    All off season everyone has worried about playing Yak in top 6 but I think in Eakins ‘pairs’ he has Yak with Gordon 5×5, which allows Hemmer to slide up with Hall. I like it. when Nuge and Gagner are back you can run your top 9 as

    Hall-Nuge- Hemsky
    Perron-Gagner-Eberle
    Smyth/Joensuu-Gordon-Yak

    Btw NHL GM’s and coaches, if you think Taylor Hall is the 39th best player in the NHL you are doing it wrong.

  5. Woodguy says:


    Lander beat Acton by quite a bit. The roster final pretty much follows the shot differential except here. Eakins ‘go with what you know’ helped Eakins in my opinion.

    I just had a quick look at the games and a significant portion of that difference between Lander and Acton may be attributed to line mates.

    Acton had games with Eager and Brown on more than one occasion and Lander was never saddled with them.

    I think it was a lot closer than the corsi suggests, but agree with you that Eakin picked the guy he new and the other guy was waiver exempt.

  6. slopitch says:

    Morning LT!

    I’m really warming up to the idea of leaving Hall at C all year. After seeing him test drive this pre-season, to me it makes sense to leave him there for one reason – get him the puck more. According to Vollman’s pass metric, Hall is one of the very best in the league at distributing the puck. (AND he’s a speed demon who can burn you wide. What an player!) Anyways, if you can go Hall, Nuge, Gagner, Gordon up the middle regularly and combine them when needbe (late in games, the PP ect) I think the team is better off. Id be fine with Perron as the top line LW and Smyth is a stop gap. I guess the key is that a guy like Dupuis was a fairly average player till he played in Pittsburgh. Burrows was fairly average as well early before suiting up with the Sedins. Hall and Nuge aren’t Crosby and Malkin but to me they will soon be making players around them better. Oilers are loaded on RW and finding complementary players on LW should be doable.

    I still think Klefbom is here by xmas. Just keep you head up and stay healthy son. It would be ideal as well to bring him in to allow Nurse to make the team if ready next year. Dont want to have 2 rookie D in the lineup.

  7. Fixall with Rexall says:

    Yakupov was just autocorrected to ‘takeover’ on my iPhone…..seriously. It knows.

  8. zatch says:

    Boy, I do not love that forward lineup. Some guys will behitting waivers more soon, and the Leafs are still in a bind though, so that’s something.

    As an aside, why are so many people insistent that Thorensen would want to leave the KHL, where he is the regining scoring champion, in his prime and on the biggest team attendence-wise in that league to most likely take a significant paycut to play 4th line minutes on the Edmonton Oilers? Or are people sort of basing it on his original stint here?

  9. Woodguy says:

    Fixall with Rexall:
    Somebody claiming Jones would really open the door to a trade but I’m a bit more skeptical that it doesnt happen. I don’t see anybody needing what he brings for what he costs when I’m sure every organization must have a cheaper in house option.

    I think guys like Jones get picked off waivers much more often than guys like Omark.

    Jones has a 3rd line player reputation and can kill penalties.

    Omark needs the soft line winger minutes, and every team in the league reserves that spot for their own kids that they are developing.

    Usually there is a much longer list of players trying to earn 2RW then 3/4RW.

  10. HeavySig says:

    What interests me this morning is which of our esteemed MSM scribes is going to pose the question to Eakins that everyone is dying to know?

    “What were the results of Steve MacIntyre’s fitness tests?”

    Obviously his conditioning rank in comparison to the other Oiler forwards will be the major determining factor in how many minutes he plays.

  11. denny33 says:

    Further to our discussion yesterday about our bottom – 6….

    Anyone notice our centre’s down near the bottom of the list…

    Will Acton and the defensive guru Boyd Gordon find themselves in Mitch Moroz,Ty Bilke country…

  12. j says:

    From my perspective, the poor showing of our bottom 3/6 last year was a result of poor coaching/systems play and overall effort levels. Jones is a perfect example of that – he skates without purpose and rarely disengages a player from the puck. Will this year’s version be any better? With Eakins behind the bench and MacT in the rafters, you can almost guarantee that the bottom 6 (or 3 depending upon how the roster lines up) will be relentless, hard to play against, and play within a certain structure. It really isn’t rocket science. I just don’t think it has been a priority for the last few coaches as there were so many other issues to contend with. Our top 2 lines will rival many of the league’s best. This gives the coaches the luxury of focusing on other areas of need. We wait…

  13. Woodguy says:

    I can’t link right to it, but go here: http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/

    and keep clicking “next” until you find Eakins’ post game RAW comments after the Rags game.

    The amount of gold he lays out there is exceptional.

    His pre-game RAW is good as well.

  14. Mr DeBakey says:

    Interesting to note that the crappy Grebeshkov is ahead of both Schutzs, the Golden Fedun and Laddy on that combined Corsi list.

  15. thebiggestmanintheworld says:

    R Hamilton and Acton look like the usual suspects on our bottom six……hot garbage

    I know it won’t be hard to outperform last year’s roster, but betting that these guys will be anything more than ‘non-factors’, is really same old, same old, IMO….

    Based on two injuries and no depth, we now have the possibility of having Arcobello, Acton, R Hamilton, Brown and/or MacIntyre on our opening night roster…

    You can’t win a playoff spot in Oct, but you can do a lot to lose one…

  16. Henry says:

    Did Omark clear waivers?

  17. Botts182 says:

    LT,

    What do you think about Smyth and Yak changing places on L1 and L3?

    Would love to see Yak play with Hemmer and Hall. Both great players to dish the puck to 64.

    This would, in my opinion, give you are 3rd line of gordon-smyth-jonesuu who have some skill and can muck things up.

  18. bookje says:

    Woodguy:
    I can’t link right to it, but go here: http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/

    and keep clicking “next” until you find Eakins’ post game RAW comments after the Rags game.

    The amount of gold he lays out there is exceptional.

    His pre-game RAW is good as well.

    “You are asking me about his hands, you want me to talk about his hands? He’s got a left one and a right one”

    Nice. In other words, stop asking stupid questions and/or questions in stupid ways.

    What I really like is that Eakins is willing to spend 10-15 minutes chatting and he gives a lot of information.

  19. M Parkatti says:

    LT – don’t mind you linking at all, have at it!

    I’d also caution against saying Lander clearly outplayed Acton. We’re talking about a sample of 5 games, obviously, but WG’s points about being saddled with worse players is probably accurate, but it’s not like Lander playing with guys like Pitlick and Jones is that massive a leg up, and he certainly hasn’t been playing with scorers.

    I guess, overall, I’m just a bit saddened by us not placing better bets for the 4L (which turn into 2L, 3L pretty quickly when injuries hit). There are guys out there (at least, were guys) available that have track records you can rely on. The discussion of Acton vs Lander kind of misses the point a bit. Both those guys have massive question marks, and would easily be upgraded by taking a guy like Mueller/Grabbo/Boyes and any number of other NHL veterans as depth. We relied on Eakins’ biases here on hiring Acton and giving him an NHL roster spot. It’s fine to trust your coach, but this is a 26 year old NHL rookie. Lander also has not shown enough to be considered an NHL player, though he had some good signs last year, but not good enough to be gifted a spot. Both are not scorers at the AHL level. These are the kinds of players that good teams just don’t hand out spots to for free.

  20. Woodguy says:

    Mr DeBakey:
    Interesting to note that the crappy Grebeshkov is ahead of both Schutzs, the Golden Fedun and Laddy on that combined Corsi list.

    Of course he is.

    People only remember give aways, not good solid unspectacular plays.

    I’m of the opinion that forwards drive corsi and D are more or less passengers unless they are really good or really bad.

    Also,

    Starting to hear on the call in shows lots of people calling Petry “soft” and “Gilbert part 2″

    I really dislike a large number of Oiler fans.

  21. Woodguy says:

    Botts182:
    LT,

    What do you think about Smyth and Yak changing places on L1 and L3?

    Would love to see Yak play with Hemmer and Hall. Both great players to dish the puck to 64.

    This would, in my opinion, give you are 3rd line of gordon-smyth-jonesuu who have some skill and can muck things up.

    Eakins has said he loves 94 with 4 and 83 and that 94 is the Oilers best player on the boards.

    Eakins also wants to run 3 scoring lines, so I expect him to spread the shooters around.

  22. thebiggestmanintheworld says:

    Woodguy: Of course he is.

    People only remember give aways, not good solid unspectacular plays.

    I’m of the opinion that forwards drive corsi and D are more or less passengers unless they are really good or really bad.

    Also,

    Starting to hear on the call in shows lots of people calling Petry “soft” and “Gilbert part 2″

    I really dislike a large number of Oiler fans.

    All of those dman have played pretty under-whelming….

    Grebs has looked awful, save a couple ten-bell passes.

    Petry needs to cut his hair…..

  23. Truth Movement says:

    Woodguy: Of course he is.

    People only remember give aways, not good solid unspectacular plays.

    I’m of the opinion that forwards drive corsi and D are more or less passengers unless they are really good or really bad.

    Also,

    Starting to hear on the call in shows lots of people calling Petry “soft” and “Gilbert part 2″

    I really dislike a large number of Oiler fans.

    Anyone calling Petry soft has noeither watched the games or looked at stats. Petry more than held his own in the “sandpaper stats” department. But no, we’ve got mouth breathers like Spector saying the team has “too many Petrys.”

    Man Oilers fans can be dim.

  24. goldenchild says:

    M Parkatti: .The discussion of Acton vs Lander kind of misses the point a bit. Both those guys have massive question marks, and would easily be upgraded by taking a guy like Mueller/Grabbo/Boyes and any number of other NHL veterans as depth. .

    This is really a great point and the Jones signing can probably lumped in here too, giving him 1.5MM so early in the summer when better options were available and he really had no leverage, Oilers would of been much better off singing guys mentioned above but also guys like Raymond who ended up on PTO’s, in fact Jones probably should of been a PTO candidate himself.

  25. Lowetide says:

    Whenever people are critical of Petry, I think back to Gilbert and rememebr the line “this is why we can’t have nice things!”

  26. Jordan says:

    Truth Movement,

    Woodguy,

    Much of the old guard MSM who report on the Oilers cater to the ignorant.

    And by catering to them, and creating these fallacies that the Oilers’ problems have been about toughness and compete and all of this rubbish that obscures the truth, it reinforces this belief, and spreads it to others.

    But people like the easy answers. The same stories their parents told them. Its so easy to accept. Why look at what the actual issues are when you could just pull on one of Spectors or Matheson’s stories like a warm blanket and know that the team’s issues are all about not having enough face punchers and mountain men?

    The only thing that will cure this illness is winning with good players. That is very likely to happen this year. Be patient my friends – the dark ages are nearly behind us.

    MacTEakins has seen the light of the three scoring lines, and will lead us to the second season!

  27. russ99 says:

    Henry:
    Did Omark clear waivers?

    Yep, re: Twitter –

    Eric Rodgers ‏@ericrsports
    So Omark is cleared and on the way. Probably will be at camp tomorrow. #OKCBarons

    Glad he’s reporting, seems like he’s going to work for his callup, instead of bailing to Europe. This will help the Barons too, they’re light on skill.

    Jones has a few hours left on waivers. Despite his appeal, I don’t see anyone taking on that salary, unless there’s a team out there with no cap concerns.

  28. denny33 says:

    So many messengers – fortunately, there are more than enough bullets around….

    Keep shooting boys….

  29. GriffCity says:

    Truth Movement,

    But Petry IS soft. He is so soft it makes me sick in fact. I do like his occasional offensive flare he shows but generally speaking he is as soft as a bag of milk. In his own end he looks very weak, loses battles for the puck and cant clear the front of the net. I was at the game vs the Rangers where he had the puck in his end, fanned on his first pass attempt up the ice, tried to go D to D behind the net, banked the puck off the side of the net with no pressure on him, NYR picked up the puck, passed it wide open out to the point, shot, 1-0 Rangers. It was a joke of a play, not even in junior B or Mens league do u see a play like that let alone the NHL. I tried hard to be a Petry supporter, i really did. His constant mistakes and weak play however is extremely evident to anyone watching who knows defense. The truth of the matter is that in the past he was one of the oilers only offensive minded defensemen. Now with J Schultz and maybe Belov, he is far less important. In fact I like the play of Larsen thus far WAY more than Petry. Larsen is a better skater, equally as offensive if not more so but still a bit soft – like Petry. In honesty, Fedun had a good camp and by rights should not have been cut. He didnt make any mistakes, how do you cut him? Its obviously about contracts but still, he played well. If Petry wants to earn any respect in this league he should stop hitting people like hes ringing a doorbell and start playing with more tenacity in his own end.

  30. Fixall with Rexall says:

    I’m fine with 94 on the first line for now. He really has earned it, and with the injuries as they are, Eakins does need to spread out its top nine a bit. I would much rather him slot in like this than play center because he just looks old in so much open water. He has a history of quick starts. We need one this year.

  31. denny33 says:

    Re: Jeff Petry

    No question Jeff is one of our best defenceman and probably our best all around defenceman.

    Save for the top 1% – all players have faults. Including Taylor Hall.

    I remember Dan Petry talking on the subject during a in-game interview…..very interesting.

  32. Bag of Pucks says:

    Lowetide:
    Whenever people are critical of Petry, I think back to Gilbert and rememebr the line “this is why we can’t have nice things!”

    Nice things? Tom Gilbert is currently mulling over a tryout offer from one of the worst teams in the league cos he couldn’t stick with his hometown team.

    Tom Gilbert’s career path since leaving the Oilers should reinforce an important point – the Oilers were cellar dwellars for a number of years because we had a crap ton of lousy players on the roster – Gilbert among them.

    Fans pining for the stellar play of Tim Gilbert remind me of car ‘enthusiasts’ who rate the Delorean as a classic.

  33. goldenchild says:

    GriffCity,

    Ha brilliant satire! you should change your name to ‘Fake Team 1260 Caller’.

  34. godot10 says:

    Mr DeBakey:
    Interesting to note that the crappy Grebeshkov is ahead of both Schutzs, the Golden Fedun and Laddy on that combined Corsi list.

    Well…one has to look at the Corsi, and the Nielson plus/minus. Grebeshov’s Corsi may be fine, but some of those shots against may be big errors he is personally responsible for leading to goals. There is NOT one stat that rules them all. One has to look at more than one set of statistics and in proper context.

  35. Henry says:

    russ99,

    Thanks Russ.

  36. Henry says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Gilbert just needs a flux capacitor. He’ll be back.

  37. Woodguy says:

    Jordan:
    Truth Movement,

    Woodguy,

    Much of the old guard MSM who report on the Oilers cater to the ignorant.

    And by catering to them, and creating these fallacies that the Oilers’ problems have been about toughness and compete and all of this rubbish that obscures the truth, it reinforces this belief, and spreads it to others.

    But people like the easy answers.The same stories their parents told them.Its so easy to accept.Why look at what the actual issues are when you could just pull on one of Spectors or Matheson’s stories like a warm blanket and know that the team’s issues are all about not having enough face punchers and mountain men?

    The only thing that will cure this illness is winning with good players.That is very likely to happen this year.Be patient my friends – the dark ages are nearly behind us.

    MacTEakins has seen the light of the three scoring lines, and will lead us to the second season!

    Easkins asked the media why they keep trying to push Smyth down the roster the other day.

    It has to be killing some of these guys that Smyth and Hemsky are with Hall on the top line.

    Eakins also said that “we are very, very fortunate that Ales is on the team”

    He’s snappy and he trolls the local MSM.

    Pretty sure I’m in love.

  38. Hammers says:

    Woodguy:

    Lander beat Acton by quite a bit. The roster final pretty much follows the shot differential except here. Eakins ‘go with what you know’ helped Eakins in my opinion.

    I just had a quick look at the games and a significant portion of that difference between Lander and Acton may be attributed to line mates.

    Acton had games with Eager and Brown on more than one occasion and Lander was never saddled with them.

    I think it was a lot closer than the corsi suggests, but agree with you that Eakin picked the guy he new and the other guy was waiver exempt.

    Totally agree and said the same thing yesterday . Lander looks & plays like an NHL player but doesn’t show that bite or magic and Acton is just not an NHL player .

  39. 719 says:

    Hello,

    What I haven’t noticed is anyone talking about the cap situation (besides Bruce McCurdy briefly) with all the injuries that have hit us. Right now the Oilers are at the cap of 64.3 million because of the LTIR situation. (They are actually over, but the LTIR situation makes them cap compliant).

    If all the young guns hit their bonuses (unlikely I know) the Oilers could be hit with a penalty of up to 4.9 million! Obviously that is not going to happen with RNH out, and J. Schultz and Yakupov unable to hit their full bonuses (some are near impossible). Still if things don’t change and we don’t trade or demote some guys soon, we could easily be in for a 1-2 million cap overage charge next year. If the cap stays the same (as many sites are calculating it to do) then we could be in a real cap crunch with Petry, Belov and J. Schultz needing to be signed.

  40. BaconWrapped says:

    russ99,

    Is the waiver wire online somewhere?

  41. GriffCity says:

    goldenchild,

    I dont get it….Sorry i dont listen to talk radio

  42. godot10 says:

    M Parkatti:
    LT – don’t mind you linking at all, have at it!

    I’d also caution against saying Lander clearly outplayed Acton.We’re talking about a sample of 5 games, obviously, but WG’s points about being saddled with worse players is probably accurate, but it’s not like Lander playing with guys like Pitlick and Jones is that massive a leg up, and he certainly hasn’t been playing with scorers.

    I wasn’t paying extremely close attention, but wasn’t Lander playing mostly with guys who didn’t make the team…Jone, Pitlick, Omark, whereas Acton was playing with guys who did make the team, Eager, Hamilton, and Brown, and Lander still out Corsi’ed Acton?

    Familiarity with Acton over Lander’s general blandness. I have no issue with Eakins decision. Lander will get a more offensive role in OKC. It is better for his career at this point playing in the top two lines in OKC than with goons on the 4th line in Edmonton.

  43. Woodguy says:

    thebiggestmanintheworld: All of those dman have played pretty under-whelming….

    Grebs has looked awful, save a couple ten-bell passes.

    Petry needs to cut his hair…..

    Yeah, this is the stuff I’m hearing.

  44. Racki says:

    Jones clears. No surprise. Wonder how many like this how many hate this

  45. Woodguy says:

    GriffCity:
    I think it was a lot closer than the corsi suggests, but agree with you that Eakin picked the guy he new and the other guy was waiver exempt.

    Mix in a paragraph once in a while.

  46. НИНТЕНДО⁶⁴ says:

    Jones clears. AHL is the right place for him to recover from whatever the injury did to his game and sort out the game he’ll need to stick on an NHL roster somewhere.

  47. spoiler says:

    I don’t think the Oilers wanted to trade Jones. I think they would rather have him in OKC as a depth option in case of injury or in case one of their present bets like Hamilton don’t work out or in case they trade an enforcer.

    Let’s keep in mind that without the SMac pickup, Jones is probably still on this roster. And probably more useful.

  48. spoiler says:

    spoiler: I don’ think the Oilers wanted to trade Jones. I think they would rather have him in OKC as a depth option in case of injury or in case one of their present bets like Hamilton don’t work out or in case they trade an enforcer.Let’s keep in mind that without the SMac pickup, Jones is probably still on this roster. And probably more useful.

    That last “probably” was for Woodguy.

  49. thejonrmcleod says:

    Woodguy,

    I loved the beginning of the post-game raw.

    Reporter: “Could you start by talking about the hands that David Perron has?”

    Eakins: “He has a right hand and a left hand.”

  50. GriffCity says:

    Racki,

    I like this..Any word on if Omark has cleared as well?

  51. godot10 says:

    НИНТЕНДО⁶⁴:
    Jones clears. AHL is the right place for him to recover from whatever the injury did to his game and sort out the game he’ll need to stick on an NHL roster somewhere.

    A doctor has come to see one of his patients in a hospital. The patient has had major surgery to both of his hands.

    “Doctor,” says the man excitedly and dramatically holds up his heavily bandaged hands. “Will I be able to play the piano when these bandages come off?”

    “I don’t see why not,” replies the doctor.

    “That’s funny,” says the man. “I wasn’t able to play it before.”

  52. theres oil in virginia says:

    goldenchild,
    Woodguy,
    Very nice work. Much appreciated.

  53. spoiler says:

    So, does Hall go on the All-Star ballot as a Center and a LWer?

    Bwahahahahaha!

  54. Mr DeBakey says:

    godot10: Well…one has to look at the Corsi, and the Nielson plus/minus. Grebeshov’s Corsi may be fine, but some of those shots against may be big errors he is personally responsible for leading to goals. There is NOT one stat that rules them all. One has to look at more than one set of statistics and in proper context.

    No kidding. Not one stat?
    I’m just pushing back against the narrative that’s developed around here.

    ***
    I was wondering how long it would take the knuckledraggers to turn on Petry after Gilbert left.
    So, its about 60 games. Nice

  55. RexLibris says:

    719,

    I agree that it could become interesting with Nugent-Hopkins’ new deal kicking in and Dubnyk needing a new contract. However, as much as Belov looks good I’m not entirely convinced he’s here next season. Klefbom, Marincin, Davidson or Fedun could replace him. And Nick Schultz is almost certainly going to be gone by the deadline (barring injury). Then there is the question of Hemsky. New contract or deadline deal? The Oilers could, emphasis on could, on trade deadline day move out $8.5 million dollars. Not suggesting they should, just that the cap situation can change rapidly in short order.

    I wouldn’t get too concerned about the cap situation right now, these things are very fluid and I suspect that the Oilers have some options ready should it come to it.

  56. Racki says:

    GriffCity:
    Racki,

    I like this..Any word on if Omark has cleared as well?

    I never heard boo on him. Too small time I guess. But he cleared. We would have heard he was claimed by now.

    FYI, speaking to the group…
    No word just yet that Jones was assigned to OkC. I think he should be.. But still a chance he stays here and they were just trying to find a new home.

    I hope he goes to OkC and finds his game again and comes back the player of a couple years ago though

  57. zatch says:

    I can’t see Acton sticking more than 10-12 games. I think that will be enough time for him to fall on his face and for someone, probably Lander to get the callup. Either that or a trade/signing, which seems less likely by the day.

  58. Racki says:

    Not that this is much surprise, but just for the sake of being sure…

    Joanne Ireland reports that Jones will report to OkC.

  59. steveb12344 says:

    zatch,

    Pretty much no chance that Nuge misses more than 10-12 games, if that.

    I would also bet Gagner will be back with a faceshield long before 2 months. I would bet 5-6 weeks max.

    We’ll be fine people. While it might be nice to pickup an upgrade at C, I doubt there is much out there that would be enough of an upgrade to make a lot of difference.

    Maybe someone unexpected becomes available on waivers, but other than that I’d say we’re probably looking at status quo for now.

  60. Oilanderp says:

    Sewer system indeed. I think this team is still on the outside looking in, I wonder who the coach and GM will be next year?

  61. Kitchener says:

    I’m still happy with the Jones signing. Without Jones in the mix, the story line entering camp would have been “OMG, there are no proven bottom 6 wingers.” As it turns out, fortunately, Joensuu panned out and Smyth still has legs, so the worst case scenario now is that Jones gets called up later in the year to cover injuries.

    I believe the term is “depth.”

  62. wheatnoil says:

    719:
    Hello,

    If all the young guns hit their bonuses (unlikely I know) the Oilers could be hit with a penalty of up to 4.9 million! Obviously that is not going to happen with RNH out, and J. Schultz and Yakupov unable to hit their full bonuses (some are near impossible).Still if things don’t change and we don’t trade or demote some guys soon, we could easily be in for a 1-2 million cap overage charge next year.

    More decisions will be made soon. When Potter and Grebeshkov return from IR, the Oilers have to lose two more players, likely defensemen (or one D & one forward). That clears up cap room as well.

  63. wheatnoil says:

    I’m unhappy with the bottom 3, but thrilled with the top 9 (minus Arcobello, but am okay with it if it’s only a few games before RNH is back). I’m pretty thrilled with the D and in the absence of a true #1, I think it has the potential to be a great defense-by-committee set-up. I’m thrilled that they’re 7 deep in D and still have Grebs and Potter to figure out what to do with. I am also thrilled by the first call-up options for the wings (Jones, Omark), defense (Fedun, Potter & Grebs on IR), and even centre (Lander is a great first call-up option).

    If this team could trade a D (Potter? Larsen? N. Schultz?) for a depth centre to play on the 4th line and demote Brown or Eager & end this SMac experience, I think I’d have very few complaints about this roster. N. Schultz may not be moveable due to the cap, but Larsen & Potter have reasonably small cap hits and may fetch a depth centre for a team looking for depth D.

  64. Clay says:

    Does anyone know if Larson would have to clear waivers to go to OKC? Because that’s the one choice so far that I have issues with – Larson over Fedun. I will admit that I’m partially biased (as I think most Oiler fans are), and want to see Fedun succeed after that injury, but I honestly think he’s the better defensive option than Larson (that Corsi chart backs it up a bit).

    Also – “Playground next to a sewer system” – does it make me childish to laugh at vague vagina references?

  65. russ99 says:

    wheatnoil,

    Partially clear cap room. Via Capgeek, any one-way contracts buried in the minors still count against the cap with roughly $800K discounted. So we’re still on the hook for approx. $600K for Jones, which is why I was hoping someone would claim him.

    The good part is there’s no more reentry waivers, so we don’t risk losing Jones or Omark when we call them up.

  66. fifthcartel says:

    Jim O’Brien on waivers, wonder if they put a claim in.

  67. wheatnoil says:

    Clay:
    Does anyone know if Larson would have to clear waivers to go to OKC?Because that’s the one choice so far that I have issues with – Larson over Fedun.I will admit that I’m partially biased (as I think most Oiler fans are), and want to see Fedun succeed after that injury, but I honestly think he’s the better defensive option than Larson (that Corsi chart backs it up a bit).

    Yeah, Larsen has to go through waivers. The only D on the Oilers right now that doesn’t is Belov.

  68. wheatnoil says:

    russ99:
    wheatnoil,

    Partially clear cap room. Via Capgeek, any one-way contracts buried in the minors still count against the cap with roughly $800K discounted. So we’re still on the hook for approx. $600K for Jones, which is why I was hoping someone would claim him.

    This is true and you’re right, that would’ve been the bonus for the Oilers if there was a waiver claim. On D, Potter can be demoted with no cap penalty (clearing up $775K). Larsen would carry $100K (clearing up $925K). Grebeshkov would carry the same $575K as Jones does currently, (clearing up $925K as well). Two of those three will have to go down once Grebs & Potter return from IR. Given Potter hasn’t played all training camp, I think it’s likely he doesn’t get picked up and I think Grebs might go unclaimed as well. IMHO, Larsen has the best chance of getting snapped up by another team in waivers.

  69. russ99 says:

    I think we’re at our 50 contract limit too, so we have to remove a player to add one.

    Not sure how easy it would be to remove one under the new CBA without a trade.

    It’s rosters issues like this that make me really miss the waiver draft.

  70. spoiler says:

    wheatnoil: This is true and you’re right, that would’ve been the bonus for the Oilers if there was a waiver claim. On D, Potter can be demoted with no cap penalty (clearing up $775K). Larsen would carry $100K (clearing up $925K). Grebeshkov would carry the same $575K as Jones does currently, (clearing up $925K as well). Two of those three will have to go down once Grebs & Potter return from IR. Given Potter hasn’t played all training camp, I think it’s likely he doesn’t get picked up and I think Grebs might go unclaimed as well. IMHO, Larsen has the best chance of getting snapped up by another team in waivers.

    Potter will start out with a conditioning assignment to the Barons, while they figure out what they are going to do, and assuming all other Dmen remain healthy.

  71. TheOtherJohn says:

    LT

    Thanks for attaching MP’s Boys on Bus chart. Read them every game night. Small smaple size but very interesting.

    Not surprising Jones cleared waivers. He could not latch onto one of 14 slots on a team that was 24th last year with a horrible bottom 6 F. Add to that that he is paid too much money to play on a teams 4th line or PB. Reminds me of people aganizing over whether Stortini or JDD being claimed off of waivers….”will he clear”? Yes, of course he will .

    Smytty is having a legitimate renaissance playing with 2 of our strongest players. Maybe he’s capable of keeping it up. I do not think so off of last year and the second 1/2 of 11/12 but maybe

    I have come around on Fedun. A real good piece to have in OKC for call ups. Not as flashy as Larsen but a real good guy to have in your 8 slot. Allows Marincin and Klefbom to spend a complete season in OKC playing 20+ minutes a night PP & PK

    Expect first 10 games will show that runing Arcobello and Acton are not NHL centres but the decision to run with young cheap options in the 4C slot was made by the GM in July

    Gordon will be just fine. Have not seen his D zone starts but suspect the # would be in the low 60′s

  72. wheatnoil says:

    russ99:
    I think we’re at our 50 contract limit too, so we have to remove a player to add one.

    Not sure how easy it would be to remove one under the new CBA.

    Nurse and Khaira being assigned to Juniors slides their contracts to next year, so the Oilers have 48 contracts, according to Capgeek.

    spoiler: Potter will start out with a conditioning assignment to the Barons, while they figure out what they are going to do, and assuming all other Dmen remain healthy.

    True. If they keep Grebs up to run 8 D, maybe SMac is waived? Eager? Brown? The conditioning stint buys them 14 days for Potter anways.

    ———-
    Things could be worse for the Oilers cap situation:

    Claude Loiselle says Leafs will probably carry fewer than 23 players at start of season— Mark Masters (@markhmasters) September 26, 2013

  73. Racki says:

    fifthcartel:
    Jim O’Brien on waivers, wonder if they put a claim in.

    Seems like a giant upgrade on Acton, even if his nhl numbers aren’t great yet. I’d do it. I suspect loyalty will hinder MacT and Co here.

  74. Zipdot says:

    Hmm, as directed, I checked out Michael’s site. I see that on the “teams with the most goons” list, the Canadian teams are lowest on the list. All these goons… America is responsible for goon culture!!!!!

  75. BlacqueJacque says:

    Anyone else excited to see Vigneault vs Torts tonight?

  76. Truth says:

    Petry is a good hockey player and will only become better. Him and Gilbert are not in the same ballpark, IMO. Petry has made a few mistakes this year (in preseason), but it is most easy to notice the mistakes in those who have the puck more often than those that don’t. He is trying to carry the play out of the D zone and typically does a good job of it.

    The Oilers will have an issue when Grebeshkov gets off IR. MacT likes him as a mentor to Yak and is probably considered a comfort to have in the lineup for Belov. I would also allow Grebeshkov some time to adjust to the NA ice again. Potter will be placed on waivers immediately after he’s off IR. He was Renney’s pet project and does not fit in with MacT wanting a “mobile” defense. My numbers would look good playing the point on the PP with RNH on the ice.

    My guess is that one defenseman is injured prior to either Grebeshkov or Potter coming off IR and they won’t be handcuffed. When they do become handcuffed Potter goes to OKC and takes up Klefbom’s and Marincin;s valuable minutes. Carrying 7 healthy D and one injured is probably sustainable throughout the season. It is the Oilers.

  77. zatch says:

    Is there a trade market for Potter?

  78. rickithebear says:

    rickithebear says:
    September 26, 2013 at 12:07 pmfrom last post.

    Center FO% diffrence in pocession
    51/49 4.1%
    52/48 8.3%
    53/47 12.8%
    54/46 17.4%
    55/45 22.2%
    56/44 27.2%
    57/43 32.6%
    58/42 38.1%
    59/41 43.9%
    60/40 50%

    On average 57 FO
    Roughly 22oz-13nz- 22dz
    therre are on average 29 shots per team.
    58 shots per game.
    24 shots are generated from the 57 face offs.
    The other 34 shots are generated from 90 free flow pocessions.
    we know on average from Dz & nz Fo wins and free flow there is .375 shots per pocession
    We know there are .5 shots per OZ FO win.

    Gordon 57% +32.6%
    Hall 54% + 17.4%
    Gagner 45.7% -18.8%
    RNH 39.2% – 55.1%
    Acton ?
    Arcobello ?

    Horcoff averaged 18.4 face-offs a game from 8-9 to 12-13.
    The second best was 13.4
    Boyd gordon Avg 16.1 FO with Phoenix.

    with 49 minutes of EV
    I would Expect
    XXX-Hall -Hemsky 14.25min
    Perron-XXX-Ebs 14.25 min
    Jeonsuu-XXX- YAK 13 min
    PK 5.5min
    PP 5.5 min

    1 draw per minute.
    1 would hope for 19 draws from hall and Gordon
    Hall 14-15 Even 4-5 PP
    Gordon 14-15 even 4-5 PK
    This should make us 4 shot differential better.

    with the 15 best forwards in the leaue averagung 16.5 even minutes.
    15 to 15.5 even from our 6 best Fwds would not be unusual.

  79. Woodguy says:

    Lines and pairings at practice:

    Smyth-Hall-Hemsky
    Perron-Gordon-Yakcity
    Joensuu-Arcobello-Eberle
    Smac-Acton-Brown (also know as the “oh fuck they’re on the ice” line)

    Extra line: Eager-RNH (in no-touch jersey)-Hamilton

    Pairings:

    Smid-Petry
    Ferrence-J.Shultz
    Larsen-Belov

    Extra D N.Shultz

    Seriously, Eakins better be giving that 4th line one shift in the offensive zone every period and that’s it.

  80. Woodguy says:

    Powerplay units:

    Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 21m
    #Oilers PP units today as per @Bob_Stauffer are Smyth-Hall-Hemsky-JSchultz-Yakupov and Joensuu-Arcobello-Eberle-Perron-Belov.

  81. RMGS says:

    Racki: Seems like a giant upgrade on Acton, even if his nhl numbers aren’t great yet. I’d do it. I suspect loyalty will hinder MacT and Co here.

    I don’t know if he’s a “giant” upgrade. His usage indicates his team was outshot when he was on the ice against soft competition playing fourth line minutes.

    http://somekindofninja.com/nhl/usage.php?f1=2012_s&f2=5v5&f3=&f5=OTT&f4=C%2BLW%2BRW&f7=&bubbleType=corsiRel&yAxis=qoc&update-filters=Update+Results

    Then again, he’s actually played in the NHL.

  82. wheatnoil says:

    Woodguy:
    Powerplay units:

    Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 21m
    #Oilers PP units today as per @Bob_Stauffer are Smyth-Hall-Hemsky-JSchultz-Yakupov and Joensuu-Arcobello-Eberle-Perron-Belov.

    Four forwards on each. Smyth & Joensuu take the front of the net I imagine. Some pretty damn good skill on each. Should be fun!

  83. Andropod says:

    Woodguy,

    Smac-Acton-Brown (also know as the “oh fuck they’re on the ice” line)

    That would be the sentiments by fans on both sides I think.

    But I do recall that Dallas was one team that ran us last year so let’s see whether this deterrent works early on – Brown starts, Acton holds, Smack hits, D do crowd control.

  84. Woodguy says:

    Smyth-Hall-Hemsky
    Perron-Gordon-Yakcity
    Joensuu-Arcobello-Eberle

    Tyler mentioned that he can see RNH slide right into Arco’s spot when he gets back.

    Makes a lot of sense and had 2 dangerous lines, and will keep RNH away from first pairing D.

    3 scoring lines.

    Unicorns have been sighted!

    Woot!!

    I’d even be ok with Eager-Acton-Hamilton as the 4th line

  85. RMGS says:

    Woodguy:
    Powerplay units:

    Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 21m
    #Oilers PP units today as per @Bob_Stauffer are Smyth-Hall-Hemsky-JSchultz-Yakupov and Joensuu-Arcobello-Eberle-Perron-Belov.

    Somehow, these PP units may be better deterrents than the NUCLEAR DETERRENT.

  86. RMGS says:

    Howson on Stauffer’s show almost letting it slip that Jones may be on the trade block. He hasn’t been assigned to OKC, and it’s unlikely he stays with the big club. Is a buyout another option?

  87. Andropod says:

    RMGS,

    After a pounding by SMac the other dude becomes an UNCLEAR DETERRENT

  88. oilinthepeg says:

    Any chance Gags will be on the wing when he gets back?

    Hall – Gagner – Hemsky
    RNH – Perron – Eberle
    Gordon – Joensuu/Smyth – Yak ?

  89. godot10 says:

    spoiler: Potter will start out with a conditioning assignment to the Barons, while they figure out what they are going to do, and assuming all other Dmen remain healthy.

    Nope. One has to be on the 23-man roster to go on a conditioning stint. If Potter is sent to OKC, they will put him on waivers, rather than waive Larsen. UNLESS….they might waive one of the goons, instead, put Potter on the roster, and then send him on a conditioning stint. OR somebody gets hurt, opening a window to put Potter on the roster, so he can be sent on a conditioning stint.

    Ditto for Gresbeshkov coming off IR.

  90. Truth says:

    RMGS: Somehow, these PP units may be better deterrents than the NUCLEAR DETERRENT.

    Hopefully both. The gameplan of the Canucks was to knock out the PP as a deterrent all season long by making sure a few of the players will be on the IR, not on the PP. The theory, right or wrong, is that they need the Nuclear deterrent to keep the PP players in the game (physically and mentally).

  91. Truth says:

    godot10,

    Is there any concern at all Potter gets picked up off waivers? There are much better d-men out there on PTO’s and unsigned as of today. The Oil could only be so lucky that he gets picked up and they are removed from the roster spot, salary, and playing time for the developing kids on the farm.

  92. Jujhar says:

    Truth: godot10, Is there any concern at all Potter gets picked up off waivers? There are much better d-men out there on PTO’s and unsigned as of today. The Oil could only be so lucky that he gets picked up and they are removed from the roster spot, salary, and playing time for the developing kids on the farm.

    ditto for grebeshkov considering we were the only team intrested in bringing him back to the NHL.

  93. RMGS says:

    Woodguy: Pairings:

    Smid-Petry
    Ferrence-J.Shultz
    Larsen-Belov

    Extra D N.Shultz

    N. Schultz as extra D may happen more often than not this season. My sense is that Coach Eakins is impressed with Larsen and Belov. Both are different types of puck movers – Belov has size and perhaps a mean streak while Larsen has incredible wheels and can rush the puck.

    It would be another gutsy move by the coach; Schultz is an actual NHL D.

  94. spoiler says:

    godot10: Nope. One has to be on the 23-man roster to go on a conditioning stint. If Potter is sent to OKC, they will put him on waivers, rather than waive Larsen. UNLESS….they might waive one of the goons, instead, put Potter on the roster, and then send him on a conditioning stint. OR somebody gets hurt, opening a window to put Potter on the roster, so he can be sent on a conditioning stint.Ditto for Gresbeshkov coming off IR.

    Yep.

    Truth: godot10, Is there any concern at all Potter gets picked up off waivers? There are much better d-men out there on PTO’s and unsigned as of today. The Oil could only be so lucky that he gets picked up and they are removed from the roster spot, salary, and playing time for the developing kids on the farm.

    However, it would be nice to have as much depth on the blueline as possible if we make the playoffs, so hopefully he makes it through. That, IMO, would be better than losing him to waivers.

  95. Hammers says:

    RMGS: I don’t know if he’s a “giant” upgrade.His usage indicates his team was outshot when he was on the ice against soft competition playing fourth line minutes.

    http://somekindofninja.com/nhl/usage.php?f1=2012_s&f2=5v5&f3=&f5=OTT&f4=C%2BLW%2BRW&f7=&bubbleType=corsiRel&yAxis=qoc&update-filters=Update+Results

    Then again, he’s actually played in the NHL.

    So has Lander but it seems Acton is the choice. In the old days a kid with his dad as coach had to be way way better than the others in the same position . I just don’t see Actom lasting unless he gets under 5-6 minutes a game .

  96. spoiler says:

    Hammers: So has Lander but it seems Acton is the choice. In the old days a kid with his dad as coach had to be way way better than the others in the same position . I just don’t see Actom lasting unless he gets under 5-6 minutes a game .

    I think you will see Acton playing up the line up near the end of periods for own zone face offs, if Hall and Gordon just had shifts… taking Arco’s spot on his line.

  97. PDO says:

    There are two types of people in this world…

    First there is the regular, normal folk who list their forwards LW – C – RW.

    Then, there’s a crazy breed that LT is slowly multiplying throughout the land who go C – LW – RW.

    Anyway… the line change by Eakins is a smart one that I hope sticks until 93 is back. Neither 57 – 62 – 14 nor 6 – 27 – 64 could play the toughs, but 57-27-64 can play the toughs and 6 adds some much needed size to 62 and 14.

  98. rickithebear says:

    Woodguy: I just had a quick look at the games and a significant portion of that difference between Lander and Acton may be attributed to line mates.
    Acton had games with Eager and Brown on more than one occasion and Lander was never saddled with them.

    (Quote) (Reply)

    —————————————————-
    rickithebear says:
    September 24, 2013 at 10:24 am

    looking at our forwards over the 6 games:
    15 GF 10GA

    GF
    Jeonsuu 4: 3 w/ arco: 2 w/ pitlick
    Perron 4; 3 w/ Gordon 3 w/ Ebs
    Ebs 4; 3 w/ Perron 2 w/ gordon
    Gordon 3; 3 w/ perron 2 w/ ebs
    Arco 3; 3 w/ Jeonsuu 2 w/ pitlick
    Hall 3; 2 w/ Smyth; 2 w/Hemsky; 1 w/ Jeonsuu
    Yak 3; 1 w/ lander 1 w/ Arco 1 w/ Ham
    Lander 2 1 w/ jeonsuu 1 w/ yak
    Smyth 2 2 w/ Hall 2 w/ Hemsky
    Hemsky 2 2 w/ hall 2/ w/ Smyth
    pitlick 2 2 w/ jeonsuu 2 w/ Arco

    GA:
    Hamilton 4 2 w/ yak 2 w/ gagner
    Yak 4 2 w/ ham 2 w/ (omark)
    Arco 3 (2 w/ omark) 1 w/ Ham
    Acton 3 (2 w/ (brown eager) 1 w /(ebs and perro)
    Ebs 2 1 w/ Ham 1 w/Acton
    Gagner 2 w/ Ham
    Brown 2
    Eager 2
    Jeonsuu 1
    pitlick 1 w/ Ham
    ———————————————-
    line 1 & 5 GF
    Jeonsuu 4GF 3 w/ Arco
    Arco 3; 3 w/ Jeonsuu 2 w/ pitlick

    Line 2-4 GF
    Perron 4GF 3 w/ Gordon 3 w/ Ebs
    Ebs 4GF 3 w/ Perron 2 w/ gordon
    Gordon 3GF 3 w/ perron 2 w/ ebs

    Line 6, 9 & 10 GF
    Hall 3GF 2 w/ Smyth; 2 w/Hemsky; 1 w/ Jeonsuu
    Smyth 2GF 2 w/ Hall 2 w/ Hemsky
    Hemsky 2GF 2 w/ hall 2/ w/ Smyth

    line 4 of GA
    Acton 3GA (2 w/ (Brown Eager)

    Corsi is a measure of pucks directed.
    GA and Gf is a measure of successful pucks directed.
    Players vary in there aproach to directing pucks.
    No better pairoducks GF is eberle and hall.

    hall is a direct route player who shoots whenever logically possible.
    He takes 3.4 shots/gm and has a 11.9% shooting %
    in an 80 game season he should take 272 shots and get 32G

    Jordon Eberle chooses to get in tighter to the box. a higher probability area based on Mr. Langes fine work .He generates 2.5 shots/gm with a 16% shoting %
    in an 80 game season he generates 200 shots and 32G

    Are they directing the same # of pucks @ the net.

  99. Andropod says:

    So for anyone who has not yet memorized the entire Oilers roster, here is the translation:

    Anyway… the line change by Eakins is a smart one that I hope sticks until Nuge is back. Neither Perron – Arc – Eberle nor Joensuu – Gordon – Yak could play the toughs, but Perron – Gordon – Yak can play the toughs and Joensuu adds some much needed size to Arc and Eberle.

  100. thejonrmcleod says:

    Bob MacKenzie just said that Joe Colborne might be on the trading block. A good fit for the Oilers?

  101. Numenius says:

    PDO:
    There are two types of people in this world…

    First there is the regular, normal folk who list their forwards LW – C – RW.

    Then, there’s a crazy breed that LT is slowly multiplying throughout the land who go C – LW – RW.

    Anyway… the line change by Eakins is a smart one that I hope sticks until 93 is back.Neither 57 – 62 – 14 nor 6 – 27 – 64 could play the toughs, but 57-27-64 can play the toughs and 6 adds some much needed size to 62 and 14.

    Speaking of which, LT, I’ve been wanting to ask: Is there a reason you list forwards C – LW – RW (I mean, in addition to the pure joy of exerting power on us your loyal readers)? I’ve been searching for one in vain, unless it’s perhaps that the C should be first because he’s the defining feature of the line.

  102. spoiler says:

    PDO: There are two types of people in this world…
    First there is the regular, normal folk who list their forwards LW – C – RW.
    Then, there’s a crazy breed that LT is slowly multiplying throughout the land who go C – LW – RW.

    You would think that someone who relies so heavily on pictures and movies for his blog would choose the visual way of portraying the lines…

    It’s kind of like helmets, and the instigator penalty, and no touch icing… eventually the world changes. Don’t have to rely on a pre-television way of doing things any more.

  103. НИНТЕНДО⁶⁴ says:

    spoiler: eventually the world changes. Don’t have to rely on a pre-television way of doing things any more.

    I’ll demand that Lowetide cease and desist with C-L-R when a goal scored with 2:30 on the scoreboard ceases to appear at 17:30 on the scoresheet.

  104. Oilanderp says:

    rickithebear,

    Wow man that’s a lot of data. A lot of work there no doubt. Much appreciated except for one thing:

    WHAT IN THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!?!?!?

    Please spend 1/3 of the time researching in public relations. Thanks. I swear to god I will just start typing numbers if you don’t.

  105. Racki says:

    I don’t think Lander really showed better than Acton. More importantly, Lander needs development time and is young. With Acton, what you see is what you get. Send the asset back to the AHL for more seasoning and better opportunity to learn via good TOI.

    Edit: doing this Internet thing on a cell phone is difficult. Sorry for digging up an older thread. Didn’t realize I was in an old topic. Lol

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