PS G6 OILERS V JETS

Linus Omark was drafted in 2007 summer, but didn’t come across the pond until 2010 fall. That season, Edmonton welcomed Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle and Magnus Paajarvi to pro hockey and so Omark’s impact was made far less than it might have been in 2008 or 2009. It began a long period of “bad timing” for Omark that continues to this day.

Omark arrived in this training camp with a new contract, good things to say and singing Kumbaya, but the results haven’t been there yet. Tonight he has a chance–it might be his final chance–to show management he’s earned the opportunity. He’s also showcasing for employment elsewhere in the NHL, and with the Oilers adding Steve MacIntrye via waivers today that’s one less spot open for a winger.

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LIKELY DEPTH CHART TODAY (WINGERS)

  1. Jordan Eberle
  2. David Perron
  3. Nail Yakupov
  4. Ales Hemsky
  5. Ryan Smyth
  6. Jesse Joensuu
  7. Ryan Hamilton
  8. Ben Eager
  9. Steve MacIntyre
  10. Linus Omark
  11. Ryan Jones
  12. Mike Brown
  13. Tyler Pitlick
  14. Curtis Hamilton

My guess is the Oilers keep 2G, 7D, 5C and 9 wingers–meaning Omark is still in this race but outside the cut line. I have the “certain” W’s (7 in total) underlined, I think there are 2 jobs available and that Jones, MacIntyre, Eager, Omark and Brown all have a chance. The one thing that has changed: Ryan Jones may have played his way off the roster (although the race isn’t over yet).

STARTING LINEUP

  • L1: Hall-Smyth-Hemsky
  • L2: Gordon-Omark-Yakupov
  • L3: Lander-Jones-R Hamilton
  • L4: Arcobello-Joensuu-Pitlick
  • D1: Ference-J Schultz
  • D2: Smid-N Schultz
  • D3: Belov-Larsen
  • G1: Devan Dubnyk
  • G2: Jason LaBarbera

Players underlined need to have good performances tonight, I think Omark needs to be the best LW on the ice (not an impossible task). Ryan Jones is behind compared to where he entered this fall, I suspect he’ll have a good night tonight. Arcobello received kind words from the management today, I think they add a center this week from outside the organization.

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THE ENFORCER

I’ve been driving around this afternoon trying to think of something clever to say about the Steve MacIntyre but nothing rhymed. I’m not going to ramble on about the move, but will say that it doesn’t jive with the stated possession verbal of the early and mid-summer. It’s a reaction, and I would dearly love to know if they had an actual player on their list and if they will pursue another option.

I don’t see the enforcer role on this Oilers team being a large role. By the way, word on the street is Zack Kassian got 5 regular season games as a suspension for the Gagner injury, that’s about 4 more than I felt he’d get for it. I think the Oilers adding Steve MacIntyre is a bigger item than the length of the Kassian suspension.

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 FINAL THOUGHT

Well, we’re through MacT’s first summer now, and I think he did well. I like the draft very much, and the additions of Boyd Gordon, Andrew Ference, David Perron, Jason LaBarbera and Jesse Joensuu. If I can pause one more moment, I’d like to say it could have been perfect if he’d:

  • Signed Grabovski
  • Shot whoever talked him into MacIntyre.

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  1. thejonrmcleod says:

    Yukio,

    I don’t think J. Schultz is playing in this game.

  2. Lowetide says:

    RexLibris: I’m going to imagine a young Sophia Loren when I hear that. A little gift to myself.

    lush.

  3. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy,

    Bingo. This day feels like it has taken forever to get here.

  4. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide,

    I learn from the best. ;)

  5. Andropod says:

    Woodguy:
    Its about time the Edmonton MSM has figured out Jones.

    Its not that he’s playing worse.

    Its that he’s no longer better than the other slugs at the bottom of the roster and now that some of those slugs are gone he’s exposed.

    I always liked Jones but I think you nailed it Woodguy.

  6. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    RexLibris: I’m going to imagine a young Sophia Loren when I hear that. A little gift to myself.

    It’s hilarious to think that by today’s standards those beauties of yesteryear are a far cry from “slender.” We’ve got a fucked up visual culture

    my favorite Italian Bombshell of the era is Gina Lollobrigida:

    http://www.ginalollobrigida.com/images/cinema/personaggi/personaggio4-4.jpg

  7. delooper says:

    Do any of you have a sense for which teams out there that would maybe try to pick-up Omark on waivers?

  8. Lois Lowe says:

    For the person wondering why Yak is playing so much; Eakins knows both (a) he wants to play every game, and (b) that he’s the player who has bought in to the coach’s philosophy the most. I can just see young Nail saying, “Coach. My coach.”

    I am seeing Belov, Fedun, and Pitlick good. Jones, Eager, and Arco bad.

  9. Lucinius says:

    On the center issue..

    I’d say Acton makes it. Personally I have Lander ahead of Arcobello. Arcobello just isn’t impressing me this pre-season.

    Minor difference between the two, to be fair, but I just see Lander as a smidgeon better.

  10. RexLibris says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    I was going to take LT to task for never, so far as I recall, including the gold standard of beauties in my opinion – Audrey Hepburn.

    Agreed on the standards of today. I’m not too specific about aesthetic standards of body shape, but seeing what passes for “plus-size” today makes me shudder.

  11. Ribs says:

    How bout that toe save! dooby dooby doooooo

  12. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Can they undress Jones and Omark and dress someone else for the 3rd? I’ve seen enough.

  13. RexLibris says:

    I actually like what Larsen did there. May not be big, but found a way to use his body effectively, even if it did bring a penalty.

  14. Yukio says:

    thejonrmcleod,

    I was going on LT’s starting lineup, I thought so though.

  15. BlacqueJacque says:

    Woodguy:
    Its about time the Edmonton MSM has figured out Jones.

    Its not that he’s playing worse.

    Its that he’s no longer better than the other slugs at the bottom of the roster and now that some of those slugs are gone he’s exposed.

    I normally defend Jones, and I think he has more offense than Pitlick and Acton combined, but that’s a fair assessment.

  16. Kris11 says:

    I was just imagining a young Sophia from Golden Girls.

  17. RexLibris says:

    The puck retrieval system looked stalled there.

  18. RexLibris says:

    @LT

    Back to the Pitlick/Maltby comp, Maltby had 19 pts in 68 gp his first season with the Oilers, his draft +2 year.

  19. Woodguy says:

    Lucinius:
    On the center issue..

    I’d say Acton makes it. Personally I have Lander ahead of Arcobello. Arcobello just isn’t impressing me this pre-season.

    Minor difference between the two, to be fair, but I just see Lander as a smidgeon better.

    I have Lander ahead 5v5, 4v5 and Arco ahead 5v4.

  20. RexLibris says:

    Brown for Kane. That’s a tradeoff I’ll take all day long.

  21. Lowetide says:

    RexLibris:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    I was going to take LT to task for never, so far as I recall, including the gold standard of beauties in my opinion – Audrey Hepburn.

    Agreed on the standards of today. I’m not too specific about aesthetic standards of body shape, but seeing what passes for “plus-size” today makes me shudder.

    She’s awesome, agreed.

  22. Lucinius says:

    Woodguy,

    Why do you have Arcobello ahead 5v4?

    I’m not arguing, just curious as I haven’t seen Arcobello do much good 5v4 (nor Lander for that matter).

  23. Bulging Twine says:

    Jones seems to be knocked off the puck easier than I remember.

  24. Bulging Twine says:

    (C) Mark Olver (COL) on waivers.

  25. Ribs says:

    I can’t believe both Brown and Eager haven’t grabbed anyone to pummel yet. The GM just picked your replacement up on waivers. Do something. They can’t be this clueless.

  26. Kris11 says:

    I meant Dorothy, and by young I meant 60.

  27. Woodguy says:

    Lucinius:
    Woodguy,

    Why do you have Arcobello ahead 5v4?

    I’m not arguing, just curious as I haven’t seen Arcobello do much good 5v4 (nor Lander for that matter).

    Made a couple nice seam passes in this game 5v4.

    Played it well in OKC last year.

    Not Lander’s strong suit.

  28. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Audrey… wow! what a face.

    Not a bombshell in the T and A pinup girl sense… but a stone cold killer of a face. gorgeous.

  29. delooper says:

    Bulging Twine: Mark Olver

    Would he be an improvement on any of the hopefuls?

  30. Kris11 says:

    Is Pitlick heavier. He is hitting a ton and winning puck battles.

  31. Kris11 says:

    WIth no Gagner and RNH, will they run power plays with no natural center?

  32. Bulging Twine says:

    delooper: Would he be an improvement on any of the hopefuls?

    On Lander. I like Acton’s game tonight though. Olver does play Eakins hustle style.

  33. Ribs says:

    delooper: Would he be an improvement on any of the hopefuls?

    Nope.

  34. Kris11 says:

    Arco looks not NHL ready on the PP to me.

  35. hunter1909 says:

    Jokinen being his usual wily self.

  36. SK Oiler Fan says:

    If there were no j Shultz, Larsen might make the team. I like his skating and puck distribution. smooth player.

  37. Lois Lowe says:

    Arco has had a better 3rd, I also have liked Acton’s game.

  38. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    This is a cover right? of “Photograph” def leppard?

    what’s that all about? just play the original.

    also, remember when that guy dissed Bowie and said LT should play something classic like Def Leppard… that was awesome.

  39. RexLibris says:

    Looking over Olver at Behindthenet and I don’t see anything that recommends him over our in-house options for a 4C right now.

  40. hunter1909 says:

    Happy to see the Jets back in the West.

  41. hunter1909 says:

    Poor Omark. Jokinen’s out there!

  42. delooper says:

    hunter1909:
    Happy to see the Jets back in the West.

    Next, Pheonix moves to Saskatoon!

  43. hunter1909 says:

    I’m pretending it’s the WCF.

  44. "Steve Smith" says:

    hunter1909:
    Happy to see the Jets back in the West.

    Honestly, Winnipeg playing in the southeast has been maybe my favourite thing about the NHL for the past couple of seasons. It’s like when the CFL had eight teams, fully one quarter of which had the same name. That they spelled that name slightly differently just made it that much more awesome.

  45. SK Oiler Fan says:

    the offence might never be there, but pitlick sure works his bag off. good on the fore check, good stick. we’ll see him on the 4th line at some point this year.

  46. hunter1909 says:

    delooper: Next, Pheonix moves to Saskatoon!

    I’d drink to that!

  47. hunter1909 says:

    Good move by Jones. *ducks for cover*

  48. RexLibris says:

    delooper: Next, Pheonix moves to Saskatoon!

    My God! what would Rider fans be like in a hockey rink? *shudder*

  49. hunter1909 says:

    Jets look satisfied to lose.

  50. Bulging Twine says:

    speeds:
    If you were MacT, do you waive Grebeshkov thinking it’s more likely he clears than Larsen?

    for sure

  51. delooper says:

    Omark has the look of death on him.

  52. hunter1909 says:

    lol

    Fun Game.

  53. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Well Beloved made the team. Omark didn’t. too bad, I liked his game last go around. I don’t think he’s in good enough shape.

  54. Bulging Twine says:

    Omark – end it. Done. ugh. aggravating watching him, hoping he does something and….no.

  55. Bulging Twine says:

    Acton was good tonight. I thought.

  56. hunter1909 says:

    Just think:

    If they only had Yakupov, fans would still be jumping for joy, instead of Hall,Eberle, RNH, J Schultz, Belov(lol), Gagner(get well soon, now you can read Lowetide all you like), Nurse, Boyd, Hemsky, plus others like Dubnyk who appears solid with a solid defence, well wot a surprise!

    Yakupov’s like a Soviet player from the 1972 Super Series.

  57. Zipdot says:

    Old Tyler Puckluck was looking good tonight.

  58. Bulging Twine says:

    Belov staking claim to that #6 spot.

  59. hunter1909 says:

    Ovechkin demands a deadline trade to Edmonton, lol.

  60. "Steve Smith" says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Belov staking claim to that #6 spot.

    I don’t even think there’s a question, at this point – who else could you plausibly slot in ahead of him?

    Edit: By which I mean partly that Belov has been good in his two games, but mostly that nobody else looks anything like an every night NHLer. As others have noted, Fedun’s probably the next best, and he probably doesn’t make the team.

  61. BlacqueJacque says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Belov staking claim to that #6 spot.

    He’ll be our best or second-best right-shooting dman by the end of the season. No disrespect to Petry.

  62. delooper says:

    “Steve Smith”: ld st

    Okay, Belov is not staking a claim, Belov **seized the position**.

  63. Lowetide says:

    Pitlick probably gets sent out here in the next couple of days but he’s played well this pre-season.

  64. gvblackhawk says:

    RexLibris,

    Go to an Oilers game and you will find out.

  65. fifthcartel says:

    Who possessed Tyler Pitlick tonight?

  66. 719 says:

    Jonesuu, Larsen, Belov, Pitlick and Fedun all impressed today.

    Arcobello and Acton were average.

    Jones, Lander and Omark are in trouble. Lander and Omark could be demoted as soon as tomorrow morning.

    Dubnyk let in another soft goal, it can be forgiven though as he made several quality stops.

  67. RexLibris says:

    Zipdot:
    Old Tyler Puckluck was looking good tonight.

    And has the cheekbones of a young Craig Simpson.

  68. Lowetide says:

    719: I’d put Acton in the “impressed” category. And of course Dubnyk was excellent..

  69. Jon K says:

    Not the most interesting game, but a few things to note. Stories include an effective game by Acton, Belov establishing consistency at an NHL 5-6 role (and a bit of a mean streak), and Dubnyk looking sharp with the exception of the lone GA. On a sad note, this game could have been Omark’s last in the NHL.

  70. RexLibris says:

    Looks like those Flames might only be one piece away from being a contender this year.

  71. gvblackhawk says:

    BlacqueJacque,

    Even though Belov is a left-shooting defenseman?

  72. Lowetide says:

    gvblackhawk:
    BlacqueJacque,

    Even though Belov is a left-shooting defenseman?

    He prefers playing right side.

  73. 719 says:

    gvblackhawk:
    BlacqueJacque,

    Even though Belov is a left-shooting defenseman?

    He plays right though. Was paired with Ferrence most of the night and the pairing was very effective.

  74. 719 says:

    Lowetide:
    719: I’d put Acton in the “impressed” category. And of course Dubnyk was excellent..

    You are probably right, he did have the nice tip in off the Belov shot and was finishing his checks.

  75. Andropod says:

    RexLibris,

    Which piece?

  76. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Well I’m starting to see what all these experts who see something in Pitlick see.

    I’m going with the haircut being the catalyst in turning his game around. Of course, once he saw that Jones praised his “flow” he pretty much had to distance himself from that calamity:

    Edmonton OilersVerified account
    ‏@EdmontonOilers
    Davidson and Pitlick with the curls –> RT @yakcitybelieve Who (other than yourself) has the best flow on the team? (Jonesy) #OilersQA

  77. RexLibris says:

    The swarm defence leaves an interesting opening. It allows for the potential of a pass to an open man, sometimes in the high slot. This may not happen often, but it does put a fair bit of trust in the ability of the goaltender to read and react to the play perhaps across the crease with little or no immediate defensive help.

    While I like the strategy, it could result in goals against by more talented teams and it would seem to imply that the coaching staff at least has some confidence in Dubnyk’s ability to make a solid first save and control/cover the rebound.

    Or am I reading it wrong?

  78. gvblackhawk says:

    Lowetide,

    My comment was tongue-in-cheek. I think he is a lock for the right side bottom pairing, btw.

  79. godot10 says:

    The Oilers only have 5 healthy centres. The fifth centre will be the last cut, or not cut at all.

    Why send Pitlick out? Nobody is going to claim the guys who would have to be waived to keep Pitlick, and one really doesn’t care if the guys who would be waived get claimed.

    The greater structure, speed, and intensity of an NHL game may be better for Pitlick than the AHL game.

  80. RexLibris says:

    Andropod:
    RexLibris,

    Which piece?

    Some of the verbal from FN after their win tonight. Meant in sarcasm, but there are always true believers.

    ;)

  81. Bulging Twine says:

    Only played two games but that is an incredible pick up by MacT if Belov is that good. Didn’t cost anything.

  82. RexLibris says:

    Wiese response – perfect!

  83. "Steve Smith" says:

    Andropod:
    RexLibris,

    Which piece?

    The roster.

  84. Bos8 says:

    On the play prior to the Acton goal, Belov did the same with Lander – a hard pass just off the net. Offensively he reads the ice very well. Calm in his own end. I think he’s vaulted over the bottom pairing and into the higher ranks, already. All of a sudden the RD is looking strong.

  85. Ribs says:

    I liked Belov’s game but I’m glad to hear that Eakins sees the same mobility issues I was seeing. He looks like he makes good reads and is quick with the puck when he gets it, so it’s something I think that can be overcome with time.

  86. 719 says:

    godot10:
    The Oilers only have 5 healthy centres.The fifth centre will be the last cut, or not cut at all.

    Why send Pitlick out?Nobody is going to claim the guys who would have to be waived to keep Pitlick, and one really doesn’t care if the guys who would be waived get claimed.

    The greater structure, speed, and intensity ofan NHL game may be better for Pitlick than the AHL game.

    I would hope the Oilers’ keep the best players up regardless of waiver eligibility, to quote Woodguy “but Oilers”

  87. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Eakins can’t seem to get over Acton’s poor performance in the FO dot.

    Someone get him the boxsheet:

    http://oilers.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/boxscore?id=2013010065

  88. hunter1909 says:

    Jon K: On a sad note, this game could have been Omark’s last in the NHL.

    I’m not sad.

    Omark is sad. He probably tries to badmouth everyone, like last time when he couldn’t keep his big mouth shut.

    Pot, meet kettle.

  89. RexLibris says:

    Eakins evaluating – giving chances, cutting ice time based on performance, elevating and demoting players.

    Tambellini evaluating – TBA

  90. 719 says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Only played two games but that is an incredible pick up by MacT if Belov is that good.Didn’t cost anything.

    This

  91. Lowetide says:

    Did Fedun get hurt? His icetime appeared to be off compared to mid-game.

  92. RexLibris says:

    “Steve Smith”: The roster.

    When I saw the “which piece” question I suddenly had a flash of the Scarecrow from Oz sitting in the Flames pressbox. I wonder why?

  93. hunter1909 says:

    Jon K,

    Omark will be fine.

    He will return to the Swiss League, and be a big hockey star in Zurich maybe.

    Wherever he goes, he will get a chance to star in an inferior league. He will get laid a lot.

  94. Lois Lowe says:

    I think that Cory Potter is in a heap of trouble. Belov is a clear upgrade. The jury is out on Larsen and Grebs still.

  95. RexLibris says:

    Claude Noel reminds me of Anthony Bourdain. But without the cool, edgy charisma.

  96. Kris11 says:

    Yeah, if I were Eakins, I’d send down Jones, Eager, and Omark and Grebeshkov, Ultimately, Brown is useless too with Smac around. Pitlick needs to go back for some seasoning, but looking better long term. Losing any of the waiver eligible guys is not such a loss because you can bring in someone else’s player from waivers, which might be a win if you can get a decent C. I might keep Pitlick up for another game as a reward.

    Lander-Acton-Arcobello is a close race still, IMO, with Acton looking the best tonight, but not a clear win.

  97. RexLibris says:

    Lois Lowe:
    I think that Cory Potter is in a heap of trouble. Belov is a clear upgrade. The jury is out on Larsen and Grebs still.

    Wow. I’d completely forgotten about Potter. I guess that speaks volumes.

  98. Ribs says:

    Lowetide:
    Did Fedun get hurt? His icetime appeared to be off compared to mid-game.

    I noticed that too. It looked like he was getting screwed over when penalties hit.

  99. RexLibris says:

    Kris11:
    Yeah, if I were Eakins, I’d send down Jones, Eager, and Omark and Grebeshkov, Ultimately, Brown is useless too with Smac around. Pitlick needs to go back for some seasoning, but looking better long term. Losing any of the waiver eligible guys is not such a loss because you can bring in someone else’s player from waivers, which might be a win if you can get a decent C. I might keep Pitlick up for another game as a reward.

    Lander-Acton-Arcobello is a close race still, IMO, with Acton looking the best tonight, but not a clear win.

    I’d keep Acton. Lander needs to develop and Arcobello doesn’t look like he is going to be more than an AHL level talent. Having him in OKC helps that team which, in turn, helps the prospects there.

  100. Lucinius says:

    Really surprised at Omark this camp, honestly. He is a much better player than we are seeing which makes it all the more surprising. Doesn’t deserve to make the team and that’s shocking, considering the injuries and Hall moving to center.

    His game really isn’t where it used to be, when it should have improved.

    Belov, however, looks pretty good for a guy who just got over here and is likely still sleep deprived and getting used to the smaller ice and pace of the NHL.

  101. Kris11 says:

    Yeah Belov has some mobility issues, which will keep him from being a star, but he is clearly capable of playing 3rd pairing minutes, which is good enough.

  102. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    Did Fedun get hurt? His icetime appeared to be off compared to mid-game.

    I don’t think so… I think Eakins was trying things out.

    Him and Nultz both only played like 16 mins each

    http://oilers.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/boxscore?id=2013010065

  103. Lowetide says:

    Eakins: “I grabbed him (Pitlick) after the 2nd and asked him if he wants to play in NHL, and if so keep playing like that.”

  104. Bulging Twine says:

    RexLibris:
    Eakins evaluating – giving chances, cutting ice time based on performance, elevating and demoting players.

    Tambellini evaluating – TBA

    He cut Jones ice time

  105. RexLibris says:

    Bulging Twine: He cut Jones ice time

    I just find it interesting to contrast Eakins’ evaluating with Tambellini’s.

  106. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide:
    Eakins: “I grabbed him (Pitlick) after the 2nd and asked him if he wants to play in NHL, and if so keep playing like that.”

    Sounds a lot like what we’ve heard about Nurse this TC as well.

  107. gvblackhawk says:

    Kris11:
    Yeah Belov has some mobility issues, which will keep him from being a star, but he is clearly capable of playing 3rd pairing minutes, which is good enough.

    Belov has looked more than competent on the PP, too. Perhaps he gets a look on the second unit.

  108. Romulus Apotheosis says:
  109. Bulging Twine says:

    RexLibris: I just find it interesting to contrast Eakins’ evaluating with Tambellini’s.

    Oh. I thought you were referencing something Eakins said tonight. Well, he did play Jones only 10:48. Good for # 10 F

  110. Zipdot says:

    Yak has -15 of those Corsi things… That’s bad, right?

  111. wheatnoil says:

    Lowetide:
    Fedun, Omark off the pace

    http://www.boysonthebus.com/2013/09/23/game-stats-oilersjets-sept-23/

    How did Yakupov have ZERO positive corsi events that entire game? Wow.

    Edit: In that, Yakupov always looks like he’s making things happen when he’s on the ice, that I’m surprised he could possibly go through a game without a positive corsi event.

  112. Ribs says:

    Zipdot:
    Yak has -15 of those Corsi things…That’s bad, right?

    Yea, they should totally cut that bum. ;)

  113. delooper says:

    Zipdot: e

    Corsi isn’t meant to be read in game-by-game isolation.

  114. BlacqueJacque says:

    Zipdot:
    Yak has -15 of those Corsi things…That’s bad, right?

    I don’t know if I’d say that, exactly.

    I’d say “Yak with two barely capable AHLers against Winnipeg’s best” has a -15. And he still looked better than the numbers suggest, at least based on the 15-20 minutes of game I bothered watching.

  115. Lowetide says:

    Yakupov’s line was up against pretty good competition tonight. That’s a terrible number, but we’ve remarked all evening about Omark and you need some help to make some plays. Yakupov is still a kid, he’s not going to push the river against good top line and pairing NHL veterans.

    Yet.

  116. BlacqueJacque says:

    Lowetide,

    He will if you give him Gagner and Perron or at least Gordon and Smyth, not… Omark and whatever other AHL reject the Oilers foisted upon him tonight.

    Is it too much to ask to see Yak with Nuge and Hall, or at least Perron-Hall-Yak?

  117. delooper says:

    BlacqueJacque:
    Lowetide,
    He will if you give him Gagner and Perron or at least Gordon and Smyth, not… Omark and whatever other AHL reject the Oilers foisted upon him tonight.

    Is it too much to ask to see Yak with Nuge and Hall, or at least Perron-Hall-Yak?

    It’s pre-season and Yakupov appears to be looking for some challenges… so… yes.

  118. wheatnoil says:

    delooper: Corsi isn’t meant to be read in game-by-game isolation.

    Corsi can be read in game-by-game isolation, but it should be taken for what it is: an indication of possession for a single game. Yakupov did not push the river this game. No big deal.

    For Omark, though, it is a big deal. He’s got to make every game count and so far he hasn’t made any game count. It’s too bad really. I’m rooting for him. Hopefully he can tear up the AHL and be better when he gets called up (assuming he doesn’t get snapped up on waivers).

  119. OilFire says:

    Lineup getting pretty clear:
    (Smyth-Yak)/Hall/Hemsky
    Perron/Gordon/Eberle
    Joensuu/Arco/(Yak-Smyth)
    Hamilton/Acton/(Brown-Eager/other)

    [Smyth/Yak could go either way, but I think most likely Yak gets most o-zone starts on both 1st and 3rd lines]
    Only contentious point here is Arco, but I’m pretty sure Arco gets the first set of games at 3C – he has a pretty good pass and creativity, something the other candidates absolutely do not have (MacT seems to see him this way too from his comments).

    D is pretty obvious as to top 6 (Belov!), not sure yet who they’ll keep for the extras, but I’m not too worked up about it as the split between the top 6 and the extras means they won’t play apart from injuries.

    Omark and Lander are out of the picture. Too bad about Omark, he was strong with possession and decent at puck battles last go-round, but is just getting beat at every battle. Both could get callups and show well later, but they’re gone and depending on lady luck to give ‘em a chance now.

  120. striatic says:

    was it just me or did Dubnyk quietly have a pretty good game?

    as always, slagged during the broadcast for the one soft goal.

  121. Racki says:

    One-way ticket to Oklahoma coming up for Linus Omark

    On the good front, pretty good game by Tyler Pitlick, I thought. I’m not keen on him at all, but he was all over the ice, and threw his weight around. I’m sure he’ll get sent down soon, but he at least showed he wants to be here. Should have started with that earlier though.

    Also Jesse Joenesu (sp?) was great tonight. What a big guy with some decent skills and a whole lot of hard work. I also thought the Eager-Acton-Brown line was superb. Best I’d seen a line like that play in a while, but of course they were just playing mostly Jets scraps. Still, a little promise that kind of line can work.

  122. Racki says:

    striatic:
    was it just me or did Dubnyk quietly have a pretty good game?

    as always, slagged during the broadcast for the one soft goal.

    The “usual” stinker, yes, but he stopped many that should have gone in. Very good game. I thought for sure the Jets would tie it up.. several times, but he weathered the storm.

  123. Ryan says:

    Breaking news: Linus Omark placed on waivers.

  124. Racki says:

    @realshanejones Oiler Jesse Joensuu says Oilers a perfect fit. “Compared to my previous training camps with the Islanders, this is like night and day.”

    This is awesome to hear. And damn, this guy is actually pretty good. Surprising the hell out of me so far. Sleeper signing??

  125. striatic says:

    wheatnoil: Hopefully he can tear up the AHL and be better when he gets called up (assuming he doesn’t get snapped up on waivers).

    i doubt he gets snapped up. pro scouts couldn’t have liked what they saw and while he might play himself into shape i don’t think there are many teams willing to wait that out with him playing regular minutes.

    that said, i do think there’s a decent chance he plays himself into shape and tears up the AHL. he’s done it before and has looked good when recalled in that situation.

  126. Lowetide says:

    Ryan:
    Breaking news:Linus Omark placed on waivers.

    Source?

  127. Ryan says:

    Racki:
    One-way ticket to Oklahoma coming up for Linus Omark

    On the good front, pretty good game by Tyler Pitlick, I thought. Also Jesse Joenesu (sp?). I also thought the Eager-Acton-Brown line was superb. Best I’d seen a line like that play in a while, but of course they were just playing mostly Jets scraps. Still, a little promise that kind of line can work.

    Hey Racki!

    Yeah, Joensuu looks like a player. For that matter so does Belov and possibly Acton. Belov can really move the puck well and looks pretty physically strong.

    Watching the Oilers faces stream during the intermission… I did notice one thing. Most of them looked pretty cut with the exception of Linus Omark who looked more like me than the rest of the Oilers. If Omark showed up for camp cut like a couch, that’s on him.

    One of the few positives of the Gagner injury is that Arcobello will get the opportunity of a lifetime. I’ve been rooting for his unlikely chance to play in the NHL since last year.

    Stauffer keeps hinting that Jones could get cut… That’s obviously music to the ears for everyone at C&B.

  128. Ryan says:

    Lowetide: Source?

    Sorry, not actual news. Was just stating what I think will happen.

  129. Lowetide says:

    Ryan: Ah, gotcha.

  130. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Bob and Jack said Omark wasn’t eligible for waivers yet… is that true?

    I vaguely recall him maybe crossing the games threshold last time under Renney… but maybe it was just talked about.

    I’m pulling for him.

    Bad timing though… I expect he’ll be in solid shape come february and there won’t be any more spots on the roster by then.

  131. Racki says:

    Ryan: Hey Racki!

    Yeah, Joensuu looks like a player.For that matter so does Belov and possibly Acton.Belov can really move the puck well and looks pretty physically strong.

    Watching the Oilers faces stream during the intermission… I did notice one thing.Most of them looked pretty cut with the exception of Linus Omark who looked more like me than the rest of the Oilers.If Omark showed up for camp cut like a couch, that’s on him.

    One of the few positives of the Gagner injury is that Arcobello will get the opportunity of a lifetime.I’ve been rooting for his unlikely chance to play in the NHL since last year.

    Stauffer keeps hinting that Jones could get cut…That’s obviously music to the ears for everyone at C&B.

    I’ve been a Jones supporter over the years, but the sad fact is he’s had a bad camp. He’s in there with Linus Omark as the two players who haven’t backed up their talk in the least. I feel bad for Jones though, as I think he’s a good “blue collar” player, but he just isn’t doing the job.

    I think Arco makes the team. There really isn’t a lot of competition for that extra center spot.

  132. Oilanderp says:

    How can Yak have no positive corsi events? I know for a fact he blasted a few one-timers from the point on the powerplay…..

    Oh and if you wiki Randy Jones it reads that he is a player for OKC. They are about to get two Randy Jones’!

  133. rickithebear says:

    Racki: This is awesome to hear. And damn, this guy is actually pretty good. Surprising the hell out of me so far. Sleeper signing??

    Sleeper?
    Cause national team scouts for Finland, Sweden, Russia, Slovakia are crap.

  134. Racki says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Bob and Jack said Omark wasn’t eligible for waivers yet… is that true?

    I vaguely recall him maybe crossing the games threshold last time under Renney… but maybe it was just talked about.

    I’m pulling for him.

    Bad timing though… I expect he’ll be in solid shape come february and there won’t be any more spots on the roster by then.

    Per Capgeek’s waiver calculator:

    “LINUS OMARK IS NOT EXEMPT FROM WAIVERS.”

    The media has gotten this wrong before too (Brule.. who might have been more the fault of Olczyk telling them he wasn’t waiver eligible).

    He’s played 65 games, the cutoff for him would be 60 games.

  135. Ryan says:

    Belov is a really intriguing player… Sample size and scrubs playing factored in, his passing skills look elite. He’s not afraid of launching some long stretch passes either.

    He certainly looks the part of a power play monster / offenseman.

    What did you guys think of Belov in terms of specifics?

  136. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Oilanderp:
    How can Yak have no positive corsi events?I know for a fact he blasted a few one-timers from the point on the powerplay…..

    Oh and if you wiki Randy Jones it reads that he is a player for OKC.They are about to get two Randy Jones’!

    Corsi is only really useful and thus only counted at 5×5.

    5×4 and 4×5 you know who has possession of the puck by and large. It’s at 5×5 that you want to track the events.

  137. Lowetide says:

    Oilanderp:
    How can Yak have no positive corsi events?I know for a fact he blasted a few one-timers from the point on the powerplay…..

    Oh and if you wiki Randy Jones it reads that he is a player for OKC.They are about to get two Randy Jones’!

    5×4 events.

  138. Oilanderp says:

    Ahhhh yes… even strength. Thanks. I’m going over here to sit in the corner now.

  139. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Racki: Per Capgeek’s waiver calculator:

    “LINUS OMARK IS NOT EXEMPT FROM WAIVERS.”

    The media has gotten this wrong before too (Brule.. who might have been more the fault of Olczyk telling them he wasn’t waiver eligible).

    He’s played 65 games, the cutoff for him would be 60 games.

    thanks.

    I’d put his chances at 50/50 to be picked up. Either way I think he plays some NHL games this year somewhere barring injury.

  140. Oilanderp says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    It would be funny if Pittsburgh claimed Omark. I hear they have a contract spot open.

  141. Ryan says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: thanks.

    I’d put his chances at 50/50 to be picked up. Either way I think he plays some NHL games this year somewhere barring injury.

    that’s all fine and good, but what’re your thoughts on Belov? :)

  142. Racki says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: thanks.

    I’d put his chances at 50/50 to be picked up. Either way I think he plays some NHL games this year somewhere barring injury.

    I don’t typically knock on Oilers players, but a) I’d be stunned if he was claimed and b) I think it would be a blessing in disguise (perhaps for both sides) if he was claimed. I think he’s good for OKC, but I don’t see him as much of a help for the big club.. especially if he keeps playing like he has this pre-season.

  143. Racki says:

    I almost wrote off Ben Eager, but I think this was his best game in a long time. Looked effective out there (as did the whole line). Prototype game for that type of line. Brown mucks it up with Kane a bit, takes him off the ice. Acton scores a goal on a good shift by the group. They were on ice for the goal against, but we know that was just an awful goal… stinker on Dubnyk’s part.

  144. delooper says:

    They probably have to give Omark one more shot. I doubt they’d send him down this early. As Eakins said in his post-game scrum, they’re letting evaluation go to the end. I bet he’ll get a shot in the final pre-season game.

  145. Colonel Obvious says:

    I was at the game and I have to say picking a team based on a couple of preseason games is a fools errand. The competition level is very uneven, the performance of your teammates is very uneven, and it is a small sample size. Nobody places any credence in two random regular season games and that is far more indicative than the lackluster garbage I watched tonight.

    That said, certain things stand out:

    Arcobello is miles ahead of Lander and Acton as a hockey player if you think scoring goals is part of playing hockey.

    Belov is an NHL quality hockey player. Fantastic pick up.

    Larsen is a great skater. He absolutely should make the team.

    Omark did nothing. That said, Omark has a track record which should count more than a couple of games. Hockey is the kind of game that you have to let come to you. It didn’t come to him and he isn’t good enough to take over games. But we knew that already. Even in a game where he did absolutely nothing he still made more good, small, plays then someone like Ben Eager.

    If you thought Omark was invisible there are no words for Ryan Jones. I’m not sure he touched the puck all game. Completely useless.

  146. LMHF#1 says:

    LT – That was apparently Joensuu that Eakins was talking to after the second, not Pitlick.

  147. jp says:

    Lowetide:
    Did Fedun get hurt? His icetime appeared to be off compared to mid-game.

    I believe he was demoted to OKC mid-game.

    delooper:
    They probably have to give Omark one more shot.I doubt they’d send him down this early.As Eakins said in his post-game scrum, they’re letting evaluation go to the end.I bet he’ll get a shot in the final pre-season game.

    I don’t know what he could possibly do in 1 more game to earn a spot on the team. Odds were stacked against him to start (in terms of player type sought for the bottom 6), and he’s shown nothing positive. He might get another game, but honestly it’s kinda meaningless at this point.

    LMHF#1:
    LT – That was apparently Joensuu that Eakins was talking to after the second, not Pitlick.

    Pretty certain it was Pitlick. Eakins loved Joensuu too, but the quote was about Pitlick.

  148. delooper says:

    I’m pretty sure I saw one good Omark play. He got possession of a puck once, in the defensive zone. The puck cleared the blue line thanks to him. But he got knocked down far more often than he did on his first trip to Edmonton. It looks like he’s lost his puckhound.

    I guess I think between what they know Omark could do previously, and the effort they put in to bring him back, they’ll probably try to give him one more game. Even if he doesn’t make the team, it’ll give him a chance to audition for waivers. I guess it doesn’t seem to me like there’s a whole lot of competition going forward. The pre-season narrative seems fairly set, unless SMacIn has turned himself into a player that can take and make a pass.

  149. jp says:

    OilFire:
    Lineup getting pretty clear:
    (Smyth-Yak)/Hall/Hemsky
    Perron/Gordon/Eberle
    Joensuu/Arco/(Yak-Smyth)
    Hamilton/Acton/(Brown-Eager/other)

    [Smyth/Yak could go either way, but I think most likely Yak gets most o-zone starts on both 1st and 3rd lines]
    Only contentious point here is Arco, butI’m pretty sure Arco gets the first set of games at 3C – he has a pretty good pass and creativity, something the other candidates absolutely do not have (MacT seems to see him this way too from his comments).

    D is pretty obvious as to top 6 (Belov!), not sure yet who they’ll keep for the extras, but I’m not too worked up about it as the split between the top 6 and the extras means they won’t play apart from injuries.
    Omark and Lander are out of the picture.Too bad about Omark, he was strong with possession and decent at puck battles last go-round, but is just getting beat at every battle.Both could get callups and show well later, but they’re gone and depending on lady luck to give ‘em a chance now.

    I pretty much completely agree with this. Arcobello hasn’t necessarily been better than the other C candidates, but is the only guy who has any skill. They can’t run Acton or Lander in the top 9.

    Jones is in there with Brown/Eager/etc. and they might keep Lander up as part of the rotation. No idea how that will play out, but Hamilton has made the team.

    100% sure Belov has made the team, and 99% sure he’s in the opening night roster. Fedun has been excellent, but Larsen probably stays since he’s got some real skill and might be lost if they send him down. They could still keep Grebs too, but he hasn’t earned it. I think he goes back to the KHL rather than to OKC.

    That lineup above sure transforms with even one of Gagner/RNH in it…

  150. jp says:

    delooper:
    I’m pretty sure I saw one good Omark play.He got possession of a puck once, in the defensive zone.The puck cleared the blue line thanks to him. But he got knocked down far more often than he did on his first trip to Edmonton.It looks like he’s lost his puckhound.

    I guess I think between what they know Omark could do previously, and the effort they put in to bring him back, they’ll probably try to give him one more game.Even if he doesn’t make the team, it’ll give him a chance to audition for waivers.I guess it doesn’t seem to me like there’s a whole lot of competition going forward.The pre-season narrative seems fairly set, unless SMacIn has turned himself into a player that can take and make a pass.

    He might well get another game, I just don’t see how he could possibly make the team at this point. It sure is weird that he hasn’t brought any of the magic we remember back with him. Just nothing. I’m still convinced he’s a better player than he’s shown, but he’s done himself no favors for getting picked by another team. Looks like he’ll replace Rajala in OKC. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if we see him later in the season, but I suspect he heads back to Europe if he hasn’t seen the light of day by New Year.

    Expectations for SMac remain low. But given that he’s present, the knowledge that Eberle/Hemsky/Yakupov will play in his place for most of the game is at least a little bit comforting.

  151. LMHF#1 says:

    jp:
    Pretty certain it was Pitlick. Eakins loved Joensuu too, but the quote was about Pitlick.

    Wouldn’t be the first time TSN was wrong, but that was what was on Sportscenter.

  152. jp says:

    LMHF#1: Wouldn’t be the first time TSN was wrong, but that was what was on Sportscenter.

    Yeah, they f’ed it up. Eakins is asked about Pitlick at about 1:15:
    http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=4&id=446936&lang=en
    Gushed about Joensuu right after that.

  153. BlacqueJacque says:

    Re: Eakins comments on Pitlick, as well as the acquisition of SMac.

    Well, today pretty much dealt a death blow to MacT’s theory that every forward has to be a threat to score.

  154. wheatnoil says:

    BlacqueJacque:
    Re: Eakins comments on Pitlick, as well as the acquisition of SMac.

    Well, today pretty much dealt a death blow to MacT’s theory that every forward has to be a threat to score.

    Agreed on SMac, but disagree on Pitlick. Eakins said that if he wants to play in the NHL he has to play the way he has in this game… where he put up an assist.

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