PS G7 OILERS V RANGERS

I had a great conversation with Jason Strudwick today on LDWLT, he made some excellent points about Steve MacIntyre and how effective he’ll be as an Oiler. Struds main point was this: MacIntyre is an outstanding fighter, and it’ll be difficult to find a dance partner because of it. Adding to the degree of frustration: the coach is going to tell his team NOT to fight MacIntyre, for two reasons: first, he doesn’t want his guys risking injury, and second, the Oilers are at a disadvantage with MacIntyre on the ice and not fighting.

My thanks to Jason for those nuggets, it really does put the entire thing into perspective.

Lots of news today: Omark on waivers (doubt he’s claimed but you never know), Grebeshkov is hurt and we’re getting semaphore signals from all media outlets re: Ryan Jones. Which means we can guess the final lineup.

OPENING NIGHT OILER ROSTER (PROJECTED)

  • Goal (2): Devan Dubnyk, Jason LaBarbera
  • Defense (7): Ladislav Smid, Jeff Petry, Andrew Ference, Justin Schultz, Nick Schultz, Anton Belov, Phil Larsen
  • Center (4): Taylor Hall, Boyd Gordon, Will Acton, Mark Arcobello
  • Left Wing (5): Ryan Smyth, David Perron, Jesse Joensuu, Ryan Hamilton, Ben Eager
  • Right Wing (5): Ales Hemsky, Jordan Eberle, Nail Yakupov, Mike Brown, Steve MacIntyre
  • IR: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sam Gagner, Denis Grebeshkov, Corey Potter

There’s every chance a trade or waiver pickup happens before opening night. Late reports have Sam Gagner out two months–the Oilers are going to make a move.

hadfield (1)

The Oilers search for Vic Hadfield has two candidates this fall. Jesse Joensuu has some nice hands, decent speed, plays with some grit and looks like he’s doing everything right. I had him pegged for the roster from the start, but he’s done enough and more since arriving here for camp. I’m less certain about Ryan Hamilton, who has size, grit and some skill but hasn’t delivered offensively and has been running in place over the last couple of days. I wonder if he’s done enough.

Big men with hands and speed. Is there any sport that has an abundance?

 CERTAIN OILERS (17)

  • Goalies (2) Devan Dubnyk and Jason LaBarbera
  • Defensemen (5) Jeff Petry and Ladislav Smid, Justin Schultz and Andrew Ferense, Nick Schultz
  • Centermen (2) Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (inj), Sam Gagner (inj), Boyd Gordon
  • Left Wing (3)  David Perron, Jesse Joensuu, Ryan Smyth
  • Right Wing (4) Jordan Eberle, Nail Yakupov, Ales Hemsky, Ryan Jones, Steve MacIntyre

 THE UNCERTAIN OILERS (11)

  • Goalies (none)
  • Defensemen (5): Anton Belov, Denis Grebeshkov, Corey Potter, Phil Larsen, Oscar Klefbom, Martin Marincin, Taylor Fedun
  • Center (3): Anton Lander, Mark Arcobello, Will Acton, Andrew Miller
  • Left Wing (2): Linus Omark, Ryan Hamilton, Ben Eager
  • Right Wing (1): Mike Brown

THE OUTSIDERS (8)

  • Goalies (4): Richard Bachman, Olivier Roy, Tyler Bunz, Ty Rimmer
  • Defensemen (6): Brad Hunt, Martin Gernat, Brandon Davidson, David Musil, Darnell Nurse, Joey Leach
  • Centermen (3): Ryan MartindaleCJ Stretch, Travis Ewanyk
  • Left Wing (5): Curtis Hamilton, Austin Fyten, Kale Kessy, Mitchell Moroz, Jujhar Khaira
  • Right Wing (4): Tyler Pitlick, Matt Ford, Derek Nesbitt, Cameron Abney

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  1. Moose says:

    On the nose by Struds. The only way this has any impact is if SMac and his coach are willing to throw caution to the wind in the way of instigator penalties and suspensions.

    His only hope is to MAKE the other team fight him. Run their stars or rag doll the guys who say “no thanks” to his offers to fight.

  2. delooper says:

    Moose: So basically, “The Code” is no more.

  3. theres oil in virginia says:

    Can somebody fill me in on Acton? I went to bed after the first period and thought he looked like dog-meat. I’m pretty sure he thought he looked like dog meat too (body language!). Did he look better in the next two periods? I know he scored, but…I’ve seen Mike Brown score too. Anyway, I wake up this AM and see multiple comments about how Acton secured a roster spot.

  4. jake70 says:

    Hall was just on That’s Hockey, likes the addition of SMAC. That pic of Gagner is ugly…ouch.

  5. delooper says:

    jake70:
    Hall was just on That’s Hockey, likes the addition of SMAC.That pic of Gagner is ugly…ouch.

    Has Hall ever not liked the addition of a player — or just fail to express an opinion on the addition of a player? There’s a lot of pressure to be polite. Every city always has the best fans…. etc.

  6. Lowetide says:

    3. Sounds like Edmonton’s decision to take Steve MacIntyre on waivers was made very late in the process, within maybe 30 minutes of the deadline. Would guess the Buffalo/Toronto brawl affected their thinking.

    Friedman’s 30 thoughts

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/hockey/opinion/2013/09/30-thoughts-leafs-feeling-most-pain-after-sabres-brawl.html

  7. RexLibris says:

    Skill, size and hands, huh?

    Okay, simple. The Oilers need to sign Adarius Bowman and put him on the wing.

  8. Lowetide says:

    14. The biggest argument against Edmonton’s decision is, “Why?” Nowhere in the CBA does a team have greater control over a player than after the entry-level deal. See: Subban, PK; Kadri, Nazem. The Oilers are seriously dabbling in analytics and one of the theories pushed by this analysis is that paying big money for scorers after the age of 31 is madness. Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins are heading into what are, statistically, the scoring primes of a player’s career, so why not pay them then? It’s a fascinating debate.

    This is re: Nuge. Friedman is incredible.

  9. fifthcartel says:

    This is an especially Oiler’s influenced 30 thoughts this week. Great read, and agreed on the point about the ‘Hall cap ceiling’ and the captaincy.

  10. BlacqueJacque says:

    Hasn’t Strudwick generally been pro-fighting and pro-enforcer? I’m kind of shocked by his comments.

  11. BlacqueJacque says:

    Lowetide,

    That was sort of my thought with the Hall/Eberle and now Nuge contracts. The Oilers are buying goodwill by paying players what they’re worth (or at least what they might be worth if things go well.) I presume this is in the hopes of getting favorable deals once the kids hit UFA status?

  12. Lowetide says:

    I love the part about not paying a scorer after age 31, but am saddened that Hemsky’s nearing that number. Has ANY Oiler player wandered longer in the wildnerness with little or no help? I hope he scores 700 points in his 30s.

  13. Karsa Orlong says:

    Moose,

    He pretty much did MAKE them fight last year in the AHL. Tries to fight everyone, including their goalie. The announcers were calling for him to be handcuffed lol.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGAdHcuJOkQ

  14. Dead Cat Bounce says:

    Lowetide:
    14. The biggest argument against Edmonton’s decision is, “Why?” Nowhere in the CBA does a team have greater control over a player than after the entry-level deal. See: Subban, PK; Kadri, Nazem. The Oilers are seriously dabbling in analytics and one of the theories pushed by this analysis is that paying big money for scorers after the age of 31 is madness. Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins are heading into what are, statistically, the scoring primes of a player’s career, so why not pay them then? It’s a fascinating debate.

    This is re: Nuge. Friedman is incredible.

    Friedman IS the smartest guy in the room.

  15. Dead Cat Bounce says:

    BlacqueJacque:
    Hasn’t Strudwick generally been pro-fighting and pro-enforcer?I’m kind of shocked by his comments.

    He is but he’s no dummy.

    SMac is not the answer to what ails the Oilers…team toughness is.

    You need tough guys who can play.

    SMac can’t play a lick.

  16. Racki says:

    Moose:
    On the nose by Struds. The only way this has any impact is if SMac and his coach are willing to throw caution to the wind in the way of instigator penalties and suspensions.

    His only hope is to MAKE the other team fight him. Run their stars or rag doll the guys who say “no thanks” to his offers to fight.

    This is exactly how it has to be done. Easier said than done though. But that game that we all fell in love with him.. well.. one of them.. vs. Calgary, when he ran Dustin Boyd. Exactly what he needs to do. He clobbered Dustin Boyd with a huge hit, then Brandon Prust comes to HIM and gets beaten (all things considered, Prust handled it well and I applaud him for that, for real).

    There really can’t be any invites to dance for MacIntyre to work here. He has to be willing to be suspended and the Oilers have to be willing to have him suspended. He’s making an NHL salary.. much better than the 1/6th he will make in the AHL. If he wants to stay here, that’s what it will take.

  17. jake70 says:

    delooper: Has Hall ever not liked the addition of a player — or just fail to express an opinion on the addition of a player? There’s a lot of pressure to be polite.Every city always has the best fans…. etc.

    So he doesn’t like the addition?

  18. Kris11 says:

    Dead Cat Bounce: He is but he’s no dummy.

    You need tough guys who can play.

    Like Brad Marchand pushing the Sedin twins around and them giving up?

  19. Dead Cat Bounce says:

    Kris11: Like Brad Marchand pushing the Sedin twins around and them giving up?

    Yes…just like that.

  20. delooper says:

    Racki:
    There really can’t be any invites to dance for MacIntyre to work here. He has to be willing to be suspended and the Oilers have to be willing to have him suspended. He’s making an NHL salary.. much better than the 1/6th he will make in the AHL. If he wants to stay here, that’s what it will take.

    Can the Oilers write him a contract that will give him performance-bonuses that are safe from suspensions? Some kind of bonus for Corsi-hours of hospitalization he creates on opposition players.

  21. Racki says:

    Lowetide:
    14. The biggest argument against Edmonton’s decision is, “Why?” Nowhere in the CBA does a team have greater control over a player than after the entry-level deal. See: Subban, PK; Kadri, Nazem. The Oilers are seriously dabbling in analytics and one of the theories pushed by this analysis is that paying big money for scorers after the age of 31 is madness. Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins are heading into what are, statistically, the scoring primes of a player’s career, so why not pay them then? It’s a fascinating debate.

    This is re: Nuge. Friedman is incredible.

    Really the Oilers are bang on with what they are doing. I forget who said it, but bridge contracts aren’t for big talent like Hall, Eberle, Nuge that are almost guaranteed to be great players. The Flyers likely regret their bridge contract with Giroux. The Habs will get bent over by Subban’s agent. Any team in the league would love to have a superstar player in their prime for $6M in a few years. That’s what these guys will be less than halfway through their contracts. You can’t get that kind of player for that price normally.

    Smart business by the Oilers even if there are some reporters out there that hate it (ex. that jackass out of Toronto.. well, one of them.. I forget his name).

  22. Racki says:

    delooper: Can the Oilers write him a contract that will give him performance-bonuses that are safe from suspensions?Some kind of bonus for Corsi-hours of hospitalization he creates on opposition players.

    LOL There is an advanced stat for everything now, isn’t there?

  23. Racki says:

    Lowetide:
    I love the part about not paying a scorer after age 31, but am saddened that Hemsky’s nearing that number. Has ANY Oiler player wandered longer in the wildnerness with little or no help? I hope he scores 700 points in his 30s.

    This isn’t 2006 anymore. Hemsky has a hell of a lot of help now. It’s up to him to get himself out of the wilderness now. The Oilers also spent a lot of time in the early/mid part of his career trying to pair him with guys that would work too.

    I think he’ll have a good year this year though. Him and Hall seem to be money (Even if the basic stats don’t say it just yet).

  24. delooper says:

    Marcinin has a 200% (goals to shots) shooting percentage. If he can sustain that and increase his shot total, he’ll be a heck of a player.

  25. stevezie says:

    delooper:
    Moose: So basically, “The Code” is no more.

    The “code” signalled the end of goons serving a purpose. I can defend hockey fights, but if you’re only going to fight people who are willing to fight you then no one is really getting punished. Take Raffi Torres, a fine fighter, If he drills your store and he turns down your heavy weight and fights your middle weight to a draw, well what just happened? Where’s the deterrent?

    Most dirty players are good at fighting and those that aren’t are good at saying “no”.

    We’ll see if John Scott was an aberration or the start of a new trend. I suspect that depends on how steep his Coach’s fine was, and on just how bad Steve Macintyre is. The league will be watching him.

  26. Racki says:

    delooper:
    Marcinin has a 200% (goals to shots) shooting percentage. If he can sustain that and increase his shot total, he’ll be a heck of a player.

    I think the Oilers should keep him up and add a good 90 goals to their total.

  27. delooper says:

    Obscure hockey trivia: who was the last NHL player to score two goals for every shot taken, and how long did the streak last?

  28. Lowetide says:

    #Oilers defence pairings will be Nurse-Larsen, Belov-JSchultz and Fedun-Petry with LaBarbera getting the start in net.

    Nurse-Larsen? Hoochie MAMA! Nice to see Fedun get a push.

  29. delooper says:

    Lowetide:
    Nurse-Larsen? Hoochie MAMA! Nice to see Fedun get a push.

    This is the Oilers way of **really** testing whether or not Nurse is ready for the NHL. There’s no reason to think he’ll be able to swim under these circumstances. So if he sinks, they can send him down and everyone will know why he didn’t make the team.

  30. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    I think we need to put the enforcer conversation to bed at least until one is iced and there is something tangible to talk about. I’ve gotten tired of thinking about it.

    ———–
    I hope Nurse shows well and like Costanza leaves on a high note back to jr. and doesn’t follow the team to OKC.

    I hope Belov kills it again and discovers that Jason Labarbara is somehow his long lost uncle and they become best friends.

    I hope Pitlick continues to eerily look and sound a little like RNH.

  31. Lowetide says:

    Forwards: Smyth-Hall-Hemsky, Perron-Arcobello-Eberle, Eager-Acton-Hamilton, Jones-Lander-Pitlick.

    Arcobello with the mammoth push, hope he scores 5. Hamilton needs to show well, and Jones needs a big game. I don’t think Pitlick can push any more, suspect this is his last showcase before heading down to the AHL.

    May he impress in OKC and return later.

  32. Maestro Fresh Mess says:

    Really excited to see Belov w/ JSchultz. Interesting pairings.

  33. VanOil says:

    Lowetide:
    I love the part about not paying a scorer after age 31, but am saddened that Hemsky’s nearing that number. Has ANY Oiler player wandered longer in the wildnerness with little or no help? I hope he scores 700 points in his 30s.

    To spin this another way, Hemsky is/will be an increasingly poor bet to pay as an elite scorer but a great bet as a solid two way player that still has the skill and speed to play up the line up.

    I would love for him to earn a 10M – 3 year deal so he lifts the cup in Edmonton. His vet presence would keep together one of the best trios of Right wingers in the league. Chemistry with Hall and able to play on shut down lines, scoring lines, PP, PK. If he could only punch faces and stop peeing in Mathesons Corn Flakes he would be a Hockey god.

  34. sliderule says:

    The oilers don’t need Mac unless you bring him up for specific games from AHL.

    The oilers need team toughness.Hall,Eberle, and all the rest of them have to go to scrums and get in the face of opponents.Instead of standing there quietly they have to give the face wash and at least act tough.

    This has to come from the coach.

    Come on Dallas make them walk the walk.

  35. VanOil says:

    Defensive depth and skill is exciting and odd.

  36. bookje says:

    delooper:
    Obscure hockey trivia: who was the last NHL player to score two goals for every shot taken, and how long did the streak last?

    Steve Macintyre – 2 goals!

  37. thejonrmcleod says:

    Another nugget from Friedman:

    “Finally on this topic: look at where the NHL thinks the cap is going. We’re talking the potential of $80 million in a few years. Let’s say five Oilers — Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Justin Schultz and Nail Yakupov — get that. Tying up approximately 30 per cent of the cap in those players is not bad business.”

  38. Racki says:

    thejonrmcleod:
    Another nugget from Friedman:

    “Finally on this topic: look at where the NHL thinks the cap is going. We’re talking the potential of $80 million in a few years. Let’s say five Oilers — Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Justin Schultz and Nail Yakupov — get that. Tying up approximately 30 per cent of the cap in those players is not bad business.”

    Why is this 30% math not making sense to me (if we’re talking about $6M each for each of those guys.. which I don’t think will happen in J. Schutlz’s case)? That’s 37.5% of the cap, if I’m understanding him (which I suppose is a very very approximate 30%). Still though, I have no problems with that number.

  39. BrazilianOil says:

    Anyone has a link?

  40. thejonrmcleod says:

    Racki,

    A rough estimate?

  41. VanOil says:

    Friedman’s 30 thoughts, Ferraro commentating on an Oilers game and LT’s blogs morning post drawing over two hundred comments with no significant Oilers news on the day.

    Hockeys back

  42. Racki says:

    Petry will earn no friends on that goal. Bad play behind the net.

  43. delooper says:

    Which d pair was out for that?

  44. Racki says:

    delooper:
    Which d pair was out for that?

    Petry for sure was one. Nurse is his partner, but I dont recall if he was on the ice at the time. Petry bungled that one though. He got covered quickly in the corner when he had the puck, went to fire it around behind the net and bounced it off the back of the net.. lost the race to the puck.. puck goes to the point, boom.. in the net.

  45. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Petry got stranded on an island there and looked like a goof.

    Then Lander got stranded back there….

    We are having trouble supporting the puck in zone-exits… big time.

  46. Lowetide says:

    some chaos so far by my eye, I think Petry messed up on the goal, and Larsen-Nurse were outmuscled down low. Lander tried to help but seemed a day late and a dollar short, and Jones isn’t quick enough.

  47. BlacqueJacque says:

    Alain Vigneault behind the Rangers bench is a really weird sight. The coach trade between the nucks and Rangers is probably my favorite non-Oilers story. It’ll be fun following both teams and coaches.

    Actually, Calgary’s likely struggles are probably a more fun story, but less interesting to the world at large.

  48. Lowetide says:

    Arcobello with a horrible play on the PP.

  49. Racki says:

    Nice tip by Hall!

  50. delooper says:

    Well Schultz still seems to have the PP majick.

  51. BlacqueJacque says:

    I was just about to say that it looks like Schultz has decided to not try his shot as often this season.

    Arco can go.

  52. Lowetide says:

    Hall (J Schultz, Hemsky). Sweet, glorious skill.

  53. hags9k says:

    Hemsky to Schultz to Hall beauty!

  54. Lucinius says:

    Nice goal there. Beautiful tip by Hall, great read by J. Schultz and good decision making by Hemsky to draw the two Rangers down and create an angle to open the passing lane.

  55. delooper says:

    If arcobello goes, is the plan to double-shift Hall every game, all game? 30 minutes a night might be difficult…

  56. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Hemsky stickhandles into a phoneboth, draws 3 guys in there with him, makes clean pass to Schultz at the point.

    Music.

  57. Racki says:

    Lowetide:
    Arcobello with a horrible play on the PP.

    That was a classic case of “gripping the stick too tight”. Just has to calm the nerves a bit..

  58. BlacqueJacque says:

    Lowetide,

    That was one of those Lidstrom type shots. Nik scored a lot from the point without relying on a booming slapper, I always thought his tippable, accurate shot was a better option than a Souray type of blast.

  59. Lucinius says:

    I actually hope Lander gets at least a little bit of a shot at playing with skill. He’s shown he can do it before, albeit in the AHL. Would like to see if he could do it at the NHL level on a temporary basis.

    Not thrilled with Arcobello at all. Some seem to like his play so far in the pre-season but I haven’t. He looks like the proverbial tweener.

  60. hags9k says:

    Y’all know Hemsky has never been my favorite Oiler but I must say he has looked very, very good this preseason. Maybe this is the year…

  61. VanOil says:

    Puck possession by the Oilers, Music

  62. Lowetide says:

    oh, this thing is going to swing!

  63. Racki says:

    I am in Belove. Almost Visnovsky-esque in his offensive abilities.

  64. delooper says:

    Belov continues to look good.

  65. BlacqueJacque says:

    Watching Hemsky with the puck and then Smyth with it is sort of a big contrast.

  66. Lowetide says:

    SWEET JESUS THAT WAS A BEAUTY!

  67. delooper says:

    What the hell was that?

  68. Lucinius says:

    Ah.. good times. Hemsky stick-handles and battles his way out of trouble with three Rangers on him and gets the puck to Smyth who loses it against one Ranger.

  69. BlacqueJacque says:

    Perron has crazy hands! Magnus who?!?! I have no reservations left about that trade.

  70. Lowetide says:

    Perron (Arcobello, Eberle). Nice play all around. Lordy.

  71. Racki says:

    I know it’s just pre-season but every time I watch Perron pot one I can’t help but feel giddy about that trade with St. Lou. This guy has finish. NHL goal scoring ability. Thank you very much.

  72. delooper says:

    That’s like the “zone pass deflection stretch play” or something.

  73. Lucinius says:

    Good pass there by Arcobello.

    Perron is the big thumbs up there, though. Both with the touch to get it to Arcobello and then the speed and coordination to get that bouncing saucer pass.

  74. hags9k says:

    Another nice one! Arco getting more done than Lander by miles to my eye.
    You have to have skills.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5wmParkppw

  75. thejonrmcleod says:

    Where did the rumour come from that said the Oilers offered Clarkson more money than the Leafs did? I saw on Twitter than Friedman said he doubts the Oilers offered Clarkson more than they gave Hall ($6 million).

  76. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    thejonrmcleod:
    Where did the rumour come from that said the Oilers offered Clarkson more money than the Leafs did? I saw on Twitter than Friedman said he doubts the Oilers offered Clarkson more than they gave Hall ($6 million).

    In part wasn’t it just MacT’s reaction to both the Clarkson and Schneids deals?

  77. Lowetide says:

    Skill skill skill. That’s the key here. It comes in waves!!! Ah hell can the season please start soon?

  78. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    What if Penner gets waived?

    putting the band back together?

  79. BlacqueJacque says:

    thejonrmcleod:
    Where did the rumour come from that said the Oilers offered Clarkson more money than the Leafs did? I saw on Twitter than Friedman said he doubts the Oilers offered Clarkson more than they gave Hall ($6 million).

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/edmonton-oilers/Edmonton+Oilers+coming+short/8637371/story.html

    “Clarkson would have made more money playing in Edmonton, but he wore a Leafs jersey as a kid. He had a tie to the team before he signed his seven-year, $36.75-million contract to play in Toronto.”

    The Oilers wouldn’t have to offer Clarkson more than they offered Hall. Clarkson is making 5.25×7.

    ah, original source was LeBrun from ESPN. http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/25983/clarkson-caps-strong-24-hours-for-leafs

  80. Lowetide says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    What if Penner gets waived?

    putting the band back together?

    I would absolutely LOVE it!

  81. Lucinius says:

    I’m just guessing, but I think the Oilers offered Clarkson something like 5.75×7 or 5.5×6.

  82. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide: I would absolutely LOVE it!

    1 year 2M.

    There’s your size with skill player. Play up and down the lineup. bam. love it.

  83. VanOil says:

    Can Penner win a draw? Ah who cares we are getting the band back together

  84. BlacqueJacque says:

    Lowetide: I would absolutely LOVE it!

    I can’t see MacT doing that move, ever. He was the original coach to put Penner in the doghouse.

  85. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide: I would absolutely LOVE it!

    Between MacTavish as GM and Eakins (fitness level) as coach, I think those might long odds.

  86. thejonrmcleod says:

    BlacqueJacque,

    I was thinking Clarkson was making over $6 million. Thanks.

  87. bookje says:

    Lowetide: I would absolutely LOVE it!

    Is there cap room or did Grebs use all that up?

  88. Racki says:

    If Penner was back on the Oilers, he’d have a long way to go I’m sure to meet Eakins’ fitness requirements… but I’d love to see him here if he gets the lead out of his ass. That would make Hall’s move to center permanentay (even with Nuge/Gagner back)

  89. Lowetide says:

    If taylor Hall can make it at center, the Messier comparisons will grow stronger.

  90. RexLibris says:

    Checked out the TSN fantasy draft today.

    Hall went in the 8th round. Right after Chris Kunitz.

    Hrmph

  91. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    bookje: Is there cap room or did Grebs use all that up?

    With players going down, IRed, or buried should be fine. but it would be tight.

    http://www.capgeek.com/oilers/

  92. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide:
    If taylor Hall can make it at center, the Messier comparisons will grow stronger.

    He’d just need to keep his elbows up.

  93. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    RexLibris: Between MacTavish as GM and Eakins (fitness level) as coach, I think those might long odds.

    With their language about skill etc. did you see SMac coming back?

    I’m not ready to write this off. I certainly think picking up Penner makes a lot more sense than SMac.

  94. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    RexLibris: He’d just need to keep his elbows up.

    and knees out?

  95. RexLibris says:

    Hall as a permanent center.

    Man oh man does that ever solve a problem this franchise has been trying to answer since 1990.

  96. delooper says:

    RexLibris: He’d just need to keep his elbows up.

    and break someone’s jaw with said elbows.

  97. RexLibris says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: With their language about skill etc. did you see SMac coming back?

    I’m not ready to write this off. I certainly think picking up Penner makes a lot more sense than SMac.

    Penner is a very good fighter. I remember him losing it on a Blues player (i think) after a dirty shot on Gagner and killing the opponent. First time I ever saw a real fire in his eyes.

  98. RexLibris says:

    delooper: and break someone’s jaw with said elbows.

    That’s a given. Not his fault if the guy ruthlessly headbutts Hall’s elbow.

  99. Racki says:

    VanOil:
    Can Penner win a draw? Ah who cares we are getting the band back together

    If I’m not mistaken, Penner took a decent few draws with Gagner and/or Cogliano out there with him and he was quite good at it (by my memory). I’m not so sure he can handle the d-responsibilities of a centerman while towing a piano around the ice, however. But Eakins also believes that the centerman doesn’t always have to be the first guy back.

  100. Lowetide says:

    Holy cow. David Perron has great hand eye!

  101. hags9k says:

    Holy shit Perron, save some for the reg season. Perfect timing from Petry.

    You can already hear the other teams’ coaches in the intermissions. Stay out of the box!

  102. Racki says:

    <3 Perron. NHLer folks. That's what these look like,

  103. RexLibris says:

    What’s Perron’s time of possession tonight? 0.5 miliseconds?

  104. BlacqueJacque says:

    Magnus, you couldn’t do that :/

  105. Lowetide says:

    Perron (Petry, Eberle) 5 pre-season goals for Perron now. He’s close to making the team!

  106. delooper says:

    Dang!

  107. RexLibris says:

    Now we keep an eye out for the goon squad.

  108. BlacqueJacque says:

    Bad rebound, meh defence.

    Smytty makes tape to tape passes with Rangers a bit too often. He just isn’t mentally quick enough to keep up with Hall and Hemmer and makes those panic passes.

  109. Lowetide says:

    Belov a little out of position on that sequence.

  110. Lucinius says:

    Bad rebound. Acton looking bad. Belov meh. 48 also meh on that goal against.

  111. delooper says:

    Perron might have to score 6 goals tonight, just to keep this game competitive.

  112. RexLibris says:

    That was a part of the weakness of the swarm system I was concerned about with this young, er, I mean developing team.

  113. B S says:

    wow, watching Hamilton skate is brutal. He looks more like me on the ice rather than a professional hockey player.

  114. "Steve Smith" says:

    Is there a point at which we start to worry about LaBarbera?

  115. Racki says:

    I think Swarm is just a coverup name for the Oilers real defensive strategy: “panic”

    Sounds a lot better than Chicken-with-its-head-cut-off Defense.

  116. RexLibris says:

    That last rush, three Oilers attacked deep in the offensive zone and each went a different direction to cut off passing angles. Beautiful.

  117. Racki says:

    David Perron is now dead to us for getting a penalty.

  118. RexLibris says:

    Racki:
    David Perron is now dead to us for getting a penalty.

    What are we? Leafs fans?!

  119. Lowetide says:

    “Steve Smith”:
    Is there a point at which we start to worry about LaBarbera?

    He’s not sharp but the coverage sucked.

  120. B S says:

    That was the wussiest holding penalty I’ve seen this pre-season.

  121. delooper says:

    Maybe a Perron hat trick is 2 goals and a holding penalty.

  122. RexLibris says:

    Mr. Chabot, please book some extra rebound control sessions for Mr. Labarbera and Mr. Rimmer.

  123. Lucinius says:

    Work that cardio, Hemsky!

  124. RexLibris says:

    delooper:
    Maybe a Perron hat trick is 2 goals and a holding penalty.

    Wasn’t that a Petr Sykora hat trick?

  125. thejonrmcleod says:

    The Eager-Acton-Hamilton line isn’t having a good game.

  126. Lucinius says:

    Lander has looked better than Arcobello and Acton defensively, so far.

    Man just needs to summon the offense from the ether!

  127. Lowetide says:

    Center ice is a mess.

  128. BlacqueJacque says:

    Goodness, that was some fast and fancy passing leading up to the Belov blast. The Rangers looked like they were standing still.

    Does Labarbera know where the puck is? Man, no wonder he never claimed a starter job.

  129. dessert1111 says:

    This is probably a long shot but does anyone know of bars in Victoria that show oilers games? I heard a myth of one but haven’t been able to find it.

  130. Lucinius says:

    Lowetide:
    Center ice is a mess.

    We just need to somehow merge a couple of them. Say put Arcobello’s offensive ability into Lander.

  131. Lowetide says:

    Bad time for LaBarbera to learn the backstroke

  132. jake70 says:

    I like the idea of skill on the PK.

    Penner – Imagine what a Penner at 75%Eakins-level fitness would bring you? Could be scary.

    Hope Hall and Hemsky don’t leave Smyth in the dust. Not sure his ability to react will fit.

  133. RexLibris says:

    jake70:
    I like the idea of skill on the PK.

    Penner – Imaginewhat a Penner at 75%Eakins-level fitness would bring you? Could be scary.

    Hope Hall and Hemsky don’t leave Smyth in the dust. Not sure his ability to react will fit.

    I think they are hoping Smyth can be a Holmstrom-light for half a season, not skate too far but just be in the right place at the right time to help ease Hall’s trial by fire at center.

  134. delooper says:

    Taylor Hall is a bad bad man.

  135. jake70 says:

    RexLibris: I think they are hoping Smyth can be a Holmstrom-light for half a season, not skate too far but just be in the right place at the right time to help ease Hall’s trial by fire at center.

    I should have been more specific. It was more in terms of quick give and go type plays in the O zone, not necessarily speed/skating.

  136. RexLibris says:

    Wow.

  137. Lowetide says:

    Acton and Hamilton on the 3 on 5 that might help both make the team. Ben Eager kills the puck and scores!

  138. Lucinius says:

    All I can say is;

    lol, Eager.

  139. Racki says:

    OMG The Ben Eager lasssser beam! Just what we expect from Ben Eager… goals in bunches, that guy……. *deadpan*

  140. delooper says:

    Eager!

  141. RexLibris says:

    jake70: I should have been more specific. It was more in terms of quick give and go type plays in the O zone, not necessarily speed/skating.

    Look on the bright side, you won’t have to worry about him skating offside when Hemsky and Hall try to gain the zone with the puck.

  142. Lowetide says:

    Eager (Smyth)

  143. BlacqueJacque says:

    Attaboy, big Ben! Happy for the guy, he really seems to have a good attitude since being sent down.

  144. B S says:

    heads up play by Fedun, so much steadier than Larsen, and still has some offensive accumen. Would really like to see him as the 7th d-man.

  145. jake70 says:

    RexLibris: Look on the bright side, you won’t have to worry about him skating offside when Hemsky and Hall try to gain the zone with the puck.

    Ah yes, true, silver lining.

  146. delooper says:

    Lowetide:
    Lander (Smyth)

    I’m still watching a commercial! No fair.

  147. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide:
    Acton and Hamilton on the 3 on 5 that might help both make the team. Ben Eager kills the puck and scores!

    3 on 5? LT, I know you’re bullish on Eakins’ PK system, but I’m not sure I’d characterize it as three Oilers ON five Rangers. ;)

  148. Racki says:

    Anyone else think “Oh it’s just Ben Eager, that won’t go in” on that chance? Woopsie.

  149. BlacqueJacque says:

    B S,

    Yeah I really don’t see Larsen’s slightly better offense offsetting his inferior defense. Fedun is solid all around.

  150. Kris11 says:

    I wouldn’t worry about Labarbera. Goalies look wonky in small samples and especially preseason. He is young and has a good record over a long period.

  151. jake70 says:

    I think it was Paajarvi last year, wasn’t supposed to play, dresses, then scores that beauty winner. Maybe a new strategy??

  152. RexLibris says:

    Serves us right for dressing this lineup of thugs and ne’erdowells.

  153. Lucinius says:

    delooper: I’m still watching a commercial!No fair.

    He totally got my hopes up.

    LT sucks.

  154. Racki says:

    Eakins thought process…

    Hmm.. bad pass by Arco.. I’ll have to tell him the bad news tonight..
    *time passes*
    Wow, what a nice pass by Arco, can’t wait to tell him the good news.
    *time passes*
    Geez, dumb penalty… I’ll have to tell him the bad news tonight.

  155. Lowetide says:

    Nurse a little exposed tonight, suspect he’s either on a plane tomorrow or travels to the DAL game and spends a couple of days before heading home. An outstanding TC.

  156. RexLibris says:

    Racki:
    Anyone else think “Oh it’s just Ben Eager, that won’t go in” on that chance? Woopsie.

    I was pretty sure he’d miss the net and it’d become a scoring chance the other way.

  157. RexLibris says:

    Good stop by Labarbera.

  158. Racki says:

    Lowetide:
    Nurse a little exposed tonight, suspect he’s either on a plane tomorrow or travels to the DAL game and spends a couple of days before heading home. An outstanding TC.

    I’d send him home just for the sole reason that he’s too scrawny. He’ll bulk up one day though. Pretty sure he’ll be a giant in a couple years.

  159. John Chambers says:

    Gotta love Belov. A bit a salt to the man’s game.

  160. RexLibris says:

    Belov clears the net after the whistle similar to Smid. Little tolerance for outsiders.

  161. Lowetide says:

    Outstanding pass by Belov to Schultz there leads to a terrific chance. That was pretty damn amazing.

  162. John Chambers says:

    Lowetide,

    How much of a gift from heaven would it be to have a 6’4″ smooth puck-handling defenseman with grit come over on a value contract.

  163. BlacqueJacque says:

    Lowetide,

    Belov is going to be our top pairing dman by Christmas.

    We have some really good depth now. Belov, Smid, Ference, Schultzo on the left side, and Schultzy, Petry, and Fedun on the right. No superstars, but a competent, legitimate NHL defence.

  164. Lucinius says:

    RexLibris:
    Belov clears the net after the whistle similar to Smid. Little tolerance for outsiders.

    My grandmother (who was Ukrainian, and thus more than a little crazy :) used to say that every Russian has more than a little of the devil in them.

  165. RexLibris says:

    Sather and Risebrough working and laughing together. Who would have thought that would happen twenty-five years ago?

  166. delooper says:

    Lucinius: My grandmother (who was Ukrainian, and thus more than a little crazy used to say that every Russian has more than a little of the devil in them.

    My family is from Chortkiv, in Ukraine. Which basically means “village of the devil” or “little devils” or “pixies” or something like that.

    But I prefer the other expression, “Every good Russian is a Ukrainian.”

  167. John Chambers says:

    Darnell Nurse — do NOT fight Derek Dorsett!!

  168. delooper says:

    That was a bland finish to the 2nd.

  169. Lucinius says:

    delooper: My family is from Chortkiv, in Ukraine.Which basically means “village of the devil” or “little devils” or “pixies” or something like that.

    But I prefer the other expression, “Every good Russian is a Ukrainian.”

    Man, my grandmother would have killed you for uttering that.

    She loathed Russians. Only good Russian was a dead Russian as far as she was concerned.

    I don’t think I can put her opinions of the Germans into words on this blog without it melting from the hate.

  170. bookje says:

    John Chambers:
    Lowetide,

    How much of a gift from heaven would it be to have a 6’4″ smooth puck-handling defenseman with grit come over on a value contract.

    He was the eighth highest-scoring defenseman in the KhL. Grebs was 120th. Which one do you think got a one-way contract.

  171. RexLibris says:

    If Stepan were my client, I’d advise him not to play overseas. Keep yourself open for an offer-sheet.

  172. delooper says:

    Lucinius: Only good Russian was a dead Russian as far as she was concerned.

    I don’t think I can put her opinions of the Germans into words on this blog without it melting from the hate.

    If you get a chance, visit Ivano-Frankivsk in Ukraine — it’s close to the Polish and Hungarian borders. There’s a part of town with WWII memorials. On one block there’s three memorials. One is to the Ukrainians that fought with the Soviets against the Germans. Another one is to the Ukrainians that fought with the Germans against the Soviets. And the third monument is to the Ukrainians that fought against both the Germans, and the Soviets, never taking a side. I don’t know any other place in Europe that would tolerate anything like that.

  173. John Chambers says:

    RexLibris,

    I can’t believe he hasn’t gotten one yet. There must be some code amongst the GM community. MacT certainly isn’t going to lay that on Slats.

  174. RexLibris says:

    Stick the cardboard cutout of MacIntyre to Hall’s back. Problem solved.

  175. RexLibris says:

    John Chambers:
    RexLibris,

    I can’t believe he hasn’t gotten one yet. There must be some code amongst the GM community. MacT certainly isn’t going to lay that on Slats.

    Here’s the $64,000 question: would you do it if you were Feaster?

  176. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Any word on Hemsky?

    Also, Belov looks amazing… but he also looks a little slow. I wonder if that will look worse over a larger sample, or if he just has really good instincts/positioning to make up for it…

    I’d take Larsen over Fedun at this point. But it is close. I think the waiver situation plus his wheels tilt it for me.

  177. Lowetide says:

    Any word on Hemsky injury?

  178. John Chambers says:

    RexLibris,

    Yep. All day long.

    You can never assume you’re going to finish last. You can never assume a guy you draft top-10 is going to work out as a top-line C. Besides, they just added three first-rounders.

    The guy is 23. Between him and Monahan they could be set up a C for a decade.

  179. RexLibris says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Any word on Hemsky?

    Also, Belov looks amazing… but he also looks a little slow. I wonder if that will look worse over a larger sample, or if he just has really good instincts/positioning to make up for it…

    I’d take Larsen over Fedun at this point. But it is close. I think the waiver situation plus his wheels tilt it for me.

    Agree on Larsen. Keep him for the year, move him at the deadline if you have to, but give Fedun a little more time.

    Seeing the Hemsky hit that they believe led to his leaving, it looked a bit like the Fistric hit from last year where he bruised his tailbone. Ferraro said he hit his head against the glass. Who knows.

    Belov I think speeds up. He covered more ice than this and did it well last year. Mobility isn’t likely an issue, more likely a bit of fitness and recuperation from travel.

  180. Lucinius says:

    delooper,

    She hated the Poles too.

    Only people she liked were Ukrainians.

    Only been to the Ukraine once and that was only for two weeks in Kiev. Absolute blast. The stories I could tell about being a bouncer at some of the bars there to pay for my lodgings.

  181. BlacqueJacque says:

    RexLibris:
    If Stepan were my client, I’d advise him not to play overseas. Keep yourself open for an offer-sheet.

    What do you think the odds of an offer sheet are? O’Rielly was just more proof that teams won’t let players walk. But boy, oh boy, do I wish the Avs hadn’t matched and Feaster and the Flames had gotten burnt with that recall waiver and lost all those picks and not gotten O’Rielly.

  182. RexLibris says:

    John Chambers:
    RexLibris,

    Yep. All day long.

    You can never assume you’re going to finish last. You can never assume a guy you draft top-10 is going to work out as a top-line C. Besides, they just added three first-rounders.

    The guy is 23. Between him and Monahan they could be set up a C for a decade.

    Me too. It allows Monahan to go back to junior, builds your team and likely makes the return closer to a 10th overall in a modest draft year. It also is mitigated because players like Cammalleri and Stempniak can be sold off for more picks at the deadline.

    I’d be putting one in right now, before anyone else does it.

    Then again, they won’t. Burke.

  183. Gerta Rauss says:

    0 for 3 on the TSN panel re:Oilers making the playoffs.

    I can’t say I disagree with them…I think they’ll be close but will come up short.

  184. John Chambers says:

    RexLibris,

    Also, I can’t believe Nonis and Sather take the risk, as close to the cap as they are, with Franson and Stepan.

    It actually makes no sense that a team like Nashville or Florida doesn’t use the offer sheet.

  185. RexLibris says:

    BlacqueJacque: What do you think the odds of an offer sheet are?O’Rielly was just more proof that teams won’t let players walk.But boy, oh boy, do I wish the Avs hadn’t matched and Feaster and the Flames had gotten burnt with that recall waiver and lost all those picks and not gotten O’Rielly.

    Not sure. GMs seem to wait a lot longer than fans would. See my thoughts on the matter as it relates to the Flames above.

  186. Racki says:

    Hemsky’s back! *cheers*

  187. delooper says:

    Lucinius:
    delooper,

    She hated the Poles too.

    Only people she liked were Ukrainians.

    Only been to the Ukraine once and that was only for two weeks in Kiev. Absolute blast. The stories I could tell about being a bouncer at some of the bars there to pay for my lodgings.

    I’ve been there twice, once to Kiev, Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk and skiing in the Carpathians (at Christmas) and another time in the summer, on a motorcycle trip. The motorcycle trip let me go visit the villages that my family came from. People seemed really open and accepting when I was there. Other countries like Romania and Hungary seemed to have a lot of fairly xenophobic people, but Ukraine was near-bubbly happy about foreigners.

  188. BlacqueJacque says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    I think they disrespect our goaltending too much. Dubnyk was a middle of the pack starter. I think if not for Kassian, we would make the playoffs. But no Nuge and no Gagner for a month and two months respectively is too much. There is still a chance, but it’s slim.

    I have no idea what the media and Mac are seeing in Arco. Yeah he made a couple nice passes, but otherwise isn’t having a strong game. Not what you need from a second line centre.

  189. RexLibris says:

    John Chambers:
    RexLibris,

    Also, I can’t believe Nonis and Sather take the risk, as close to the cap as they are, with Franson and Stepan.

    It actually makes no sense that a team like Nashville or Florida doesn’t use the offer sheet.

    But…would you want MacTavish to do it, cap notwithstanding?

  190. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Nurse* behind the net looking for an outlet. Jones presents himself, immediately falls under his own power. Nurse spins and goes the other way.

    *It may have been someone else. this feed isn’t the best.

  191. RexLibris says:

    Why has no forward given Petry a stick yet?

  192. delooper says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Nurse* behind the net looking for an outlet. Jones presents himself, immediately falls under his own power. Nurse spins and goes the other way.

    *It may have been someone else. this feed isn’t the best.

    Yeah, that was Jones.

  193. crude says:

    Just tuning in and takin’ the temperature on the blog here. What happened to Hemsky? He’s been hurt and is back already this game?

  194. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    well, that was a poor sequence.

  195. BlacqueJacque says:

    RexLibris,

    There’s no way the rags let Stepan go. He’s their number one. It’d be like the Oilers letting Eberle walk.

    Franson isn’t good enough to be worth pissing off the Leafs.

    Oilers haven’t generated a shot in like 10 minutes :\

  196. RexLibris says:

    Eberle is crying out for a decent center.

  197. delooper says:

    RexLibris:
    Eberle is crying out for a decent center.

    Maybe time to experiment with an Eberle-at-centre scenerio.

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