OILERS TRADE MIKE BROWN TO SAN JOSE

Oilers have traded Mike Brown to San Jose for a 4th round pick, as per Joanne Ireland of the EJ. It’s a 2014 selection, meaning the Oilers 4th rounder (now with Toronto for Brown) has been replaced by the San Jose selection in the same round. Edmonton now has a pick in each round but the 2nd (Paajarvi trade) which is owned currently by St. Louis.

Ireland reports that Ben Eager is on his way to Montreal to join the club.

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  1. Clarence Oveur says:

    Good.

  2. Ben says:

    Man. So nervous about the other shoe…

  3. TeeVee says:

    Freeing up contract space is a good thing. Somethins a brewin.

  4. Racki says:

    I was a fan of Brown initially, but really, he’s the “non-factor” MacT often talks about. Gazdic wooed me for a bit, and he too falls in that category.. but I at least see him as a better playing version of MacIntyre. It is OK to have one guy like that.

    I have to wonder about some of these moves though…. Brown moved when the team is missing forwards.. Fedun supposedly recalled.. now Eager recalled…

    I wonder a little bit if the Oilers freed up a slot in order to make a multi-player trade. They could just be trying to keep an extra slot handy though, who knows. But I really do wonder if there’s more coming..

  5. fifthcartel says:

    Eager, Fedun, and Pitlick recalled? Interesting…

  6. Dead Cat Bounce says:

    Why did SJ do this?

    They need Brown like Helen Keller needs reading glasses.

    Must be more coming.

  7. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    mentioned it in the last thread… This doesn’t look like a Wilson move.

    They have Pelech already. Do they need another facepuncher to protect Hertl?

    At any rate, this is a fantastic bottom of the roster bit of tinkering. Finally reducing the number of contracts and enforcers. Getting a 4th is real value for this player too.

  8. LMHF#1 says:

    I repeat: Victory! WHOOOO!

    So glad that A) he’s gone and B) he brought something back.

  9. Zelepukin says:

    A strange one from both ends. San Jose, best team in the league right now, acquires a 4th liner from one of the worst teams in the league?

  10. Racki says:

    The one good thing about Ben Eager being recalled is perhaps the Canadiens can get a better look at him in action with Prust out… wouldn’t mind losing that contract too.

  11. regwald says:

    And this takes the Oilers back to 48 contracts. Some flexibility.

  12. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Dead Cat Bounce:
    Why did SJ do this?

    They need Brown like Helen Keller needs reading glasses.

    Must be more coming.

    Just checked, they sent Pelech down:

    http://sharks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=687778

    looks like they don’t have a facepuncher on the team without him I don’t think. Not sure Brown is an upgrade.

    They are tight on the 50 man and cap too… curious.

  13. OilClog says:

    Wow, can’t believe we got something for him!

  14. KSC10032 says:

    I wonder — did SJ owe the Oilers some “future considerations” from some past
    trade?

    Sometimes such “considerations” take this form.

  15. JAG-041 says:

    oh no…
    does this mean they’ve traded Eberle?
    or is Eberle legitimately hurt?

  16. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    God, this sounds like drivel:

    “”He is a player with tremendous character, knows the Western Conference well and brings a tough, physical ingredient to our lineup.”

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=434731

    This is the same GM that traded away Murray and Clowe and uses Corsi to track junior players?

  17. Dead Cat Bounce says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    God, this sounds like drivel:

    “”He is a player with tremendous character, knows the Western Conference well and brings a tough, physical ingredient to our lineup.”

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=434731

    This is the same GM that traded away Murray and Clowe and uses Corsi to track junior players?

    Wilson isn’t stupid.

    He’s up to something.

  18. Racki says:

    I’m surprised there was no Wilson speech like “The addition of Mike Brown will ensure our stars go unpunished!”.

  19. Racki says:

    Dead Cat Bounce: Wilson isn’t stupid.

    He’s up to something.

    This seems rather unlikely… what could he possibly be up to by acquiring Mike Brown? Not to say Wilson isn’t the good GM you say he is (I would say the proof is in the pudding here)… just I don’t think there’s a scenario in any logical mind that says “acquire Mike Brown so that I can….”.

    ….. flip him to the Habs for a 3rd rounder?
    ….. subcontract him to provide security at my new restaurant I just opened?
    ….. show Couture how to grow a moustache?

  20. KSC10032 says:

    This also further explains the Pitlick recall, as t can be seen as like for like, with the further bonus that Pitlick can also play centre.

    I don’t know @ Pitlick as any kind of a secondary thug (a la Brown), but he may have a wider skill set even without any more offense.

  21. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    KSC10032: Sometimes such “considerations” take this form.

    One of the pre-chosed forms?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjzZhTS_xa0

  22. jamang says:

    I gauruntee the oilers did not trade eberle. as Eakins said “quite arguably our best forward” he has been their best forward. hemmer or yak will go before eberle. id go and cheer for Colorado (my other favorite team) for good unless we brought back serious assets. a real kings ransom

  23. Zelepukin says:

    Racki: This seems rather unlikely… what could he possibly be up to by acquiring Mike Brown? Not to say Wilson isn’t the good GM you say he is (I would say the proof is in the pudding here)… just I don’t think there’s a scenario in any logical mind that says “acquire Mike Brown so that I can….”.

    ….. flip him to the Habs for a 3rd rounder?
    ….. subcontract him to provide security at my new restaurant I just opened?
    ….. show Couture how to grow a moustache?

    My money is on moustache. SJ probably has some big Movember marketing campaign they need help on.

  24. Racki says:

    Dead Cat Bounce: Wilson isn’t stupid.

    He’s up to something.

    Let me just reiterate, there is no chapter in the Guide To Good GM’ing (forward by Scotty Bowman) that says “acquire 4th line plug from basement dweller”, I don’t believe.

    If anyone is up to something, I’d say it’s MacT.

  25. Dead Cat Bounce says:

    Racki: This seems rather unlikely… what could he possibly be up to by acquiring Mike Brown? Not to say Wilson isn’t the good GM you say he is (I would say the proof is in the pudding here)… just I don’t think there’s a scenario in any logical mind that says “acquire Mike Brown so that I can….”.

    ….. flip him to the Habs for a 3rd rounder?
    ….. subcontract him to provide security at my new restaurant I just opened?
    ….. show Couture how to grow a moustache?

    Actually, it’s quite likely.

    Although Door #3 makes the most sense on the surface.

  26. JAG-041 says:

    I’m just worried because of the Eager rumour and both he and Eberle didn’t skate today
    I think the return would be QUITE handsome for Eberle for sure but it wouldn’t mean I’d like it

  27. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Dead Cat Bounce: Wilson isn’t stupid.

    He’s up to something.

    No one said he is stupid. Around here and elsewhere you’ll find him very well respected. You don’t need to hold his hand on this.

    Looks to me like an incredibly stupid move that can only be explained by the seemingly unending fascination with these kinds of players throughout most of the league.

    What is really confounding though is why Brown over Pelech?

    The only “other shoe to drop” I can think of that would involve Brown is the team feeling unsatisfied with Pelech’s willingness to punch things and that they perhaps have gotten freaked with people running Hertl and believe like so many others that facepunchers help in this area.

  28. Dead Cat Bounce says:

    Racki: Let me just reiterate, there is no chapter in the Guide To Good GM’ing (forward by Scotty Bowman) that says “acquire 4th line plug from basement dweller”, I don’t believe.

    If anyone is up to something, I’d say it’s MacT.

    There is also no chapter in the Guide to Good GM’ing that says acquire a player who can’t play but brings some toughness when you already have a big, heavy team that needs none of the above.

  29. Zelepukin says:

    Racki: Let me just reiterate, there is no chapter in the Guide To Good GM’ing (forward by Scotty Bowman) that says “acquire 4th line plug from basement dweller”, I don’t believe.

    If anyone is up to something, I’d say MacT.

    Which seems like a weird approach. MacT picks up phone, asks if they want our facepuncher/stach twirler for….whatever you have? No way a GM wouldn’t squeeze MacT on what he is giving up if it seems like a contract dump and say yes but to a 5th rounder.

  30. Bulging Twine says:

    Nice little trade by MacT. Brown doesn’t have the puck possession skills that MacT wants, they have a player (Eager) who can do pretty much the same job, and it clears out a contract.

  31. Racki says:

    Dead Cat Bounce: There is also no chapter in the Guide to Good GM’ing that says acquire a player who can’t play but brings some toughness when you already have a big, heavy team that needs none of the above.

    I’m not disputing that at all .. I’m disputing your claim that Wilson in all his infinite GM wisdom has something planned by acquiring Mike Brown (not sure why you’re trying to distract from this).

    If it’s so “likely” he has something planned.. throw out your best guess as to what he can now plan on doing post-Mike Brown acquisition?

  32. Dead Cat Bounce says:

    Sean Monahan with his 6th goal and 9th point.

    #killingit

  33. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    With Burns shaving his beard:

    http://sharks.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=93407&navid=DL|SJS|home

    adding some much needed facial hair was probably a top priority.

  34. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    I can’t tell who is more pissed off at these Flames. Everyone else or Feaster.

    He keeps trying to lose and they keep winning somehow. Mind you, the LAK have a lot of time left to sort this game out… and wow there’s a shortie, right on cue 2-2, 3:20 left in the second.

  35. Bar_Qu says:

    Dead Cat Bounce:
    Sean Monahan with his 6th goal and 9th point.

    #killingit

    Despite the SH%, the kid is making a believer out of me.

  36. wheatnoil says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Nice little trade by MacT.Brown doesn’t have the puck possession skills that MacT wants, they have a player (Eager) who can do pretty much the same job, and it clears out a contract.

    I think Gazdic is the one that does a similar job. I’m not thrilled with Gazdic as a player, but I do think he makes both Brown and SMac obsolete. I wonder if MacT was shopping Brown ever since they picked up Gazdic and finally found a taker.

    It IS strange though. What’s Wilson up to? Give it long enough and a Brown-or-equivalent will come available via waivers. So why give up the 4th?

    Hell, I’ll stop looking a gift horse in the mouth. I’ll take it! Good deal MacT!

  37. Racki says:

    Gotta Monahand it to Monahan.. he’s a pretty good player. Would have loved to have been able to draft him, but I’m pretty sure the Oil will be very happy with their choice too.

  38. gr8one says:

    Dead Cat Bounce:
    Sean Monahan with his 6th goal and 9th point.

    #killingit

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57dzaMaouXA

  39. TeeVee says:

    Racki,

    “Gotta Monahand it to Monahan”

    You should be ashamed of yourself!

  40. jp says:

    Wow. Removing Brown from the lineup and the 50 man list is nice. Getting a draft pick for him is great. Pitlick/Eager is a lateral move at worst.

    MacT. He does things. I like it!

    And re: the Fedun recall. 2 things:

    1) Could they actually plan on playing Grebs on the wing? It sounds crazy, but his main weakness is chaos in the D zone. He’s got some skill, some size and can play a physical game. And they have lots of comparably skilled depth on the back end to replace him. Maybe he could be a decent 3/4 line winger… There’s probably nothing to it, but I’d really like to see Eakins give it a try. It might just work out.

    2) Is there something up with N.Schultz? Is he hurting? Headed out of town? Even if Grebs were to play the wing Fedun makes 7D. Could just be for depth on the road, or someone else could be questionable for the game. But if Fedun plays over N.Schultz tomorrow something is definitely up – they gave him a letter what, 3 weeks ago?. I’ve got a feeling we may not see Sr. in an Oilers uniform again. We will see.

  41. Racki says:

    TeeVee:
    Racki,

    “Gotta Monahand it to Monahan”

    You should be ashamed of yourself!

    hahaha.. I am truly ashamed. And to think I give Gene Principe a hard time for all his groaners.

  42. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    wheatnoil: I think Gazdic is the one that does a similar job. I’m not thrilled with Gazdic as a player, but I do think he makes both Brown and SMac obsolete. I wonder if MacT was shopping Brown ever since they picked up Gazdic and finally found a taker.

    They may well have been shopping him the day SMac became available on waivers. MacT has no loyalty to Brown (Tambo trade) and we know he was irked by the empty cupboard at the draft.

  43. fifthcartel says:

    Haha, I know probably not the most reliable source but hey, why not?

    Tracy Lane ‏@TreenasOil Protected account 11m

    Brown to the sharks is a contract move expect the unexpected

    Tracy Lane ‏@TreenasOil Protected account 1m

    Smid likely involved in trade

  44. Ribs says:

    Tracy Lane ‏@TreenasOil Protected account 10m
    Brown to the sharks is a contract move expect the unexpected

    Tracy Lane ‏@TreenasOil Protected account 30s
    Smid likely involved in trade

    Here we go….

  45. wheatnoil says:

    fifthcartel:

    Tracy Lane ‏@TreenasOil Protected account 1m

    Smid likely involved in trade

    Wait a minute… LT IS FUSSY BRITCHES!!!

  46. jp says:

    fifthcartel,

    Damn, this could be big. Let’s hope it’s not for Miller.

    Clearing out contracts suggests the mythical 3 for 1…

  47. Zelepukin says:

    oh shit. Please not be Ebs please not be Ebs.

  48. jp says:

    wheatnoil,

    Nice.

    Fits with the 3 for 1 narrative as well.

  49. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    jp: 2) Is there something up with N.Schultz? Is he hurting? Headed out of town? Even if Grebs were to play the wing Fedun makes 7D. Could just be for depth on the road, or someone else could be questionable for the game. But if Fedun plays over N.Schultz tomorrow something is definitely. They gave Sr a letter not so long ago. I’ve got a feeling we may not see him in an Oilers uniform again. We will see.

    If N. Schultz is gone by tomorrow I wouldn’t be surprised. We’ve said all Summer/Fall he’s the odd man out here, with Smid knocking on the same door possibly.

    The other thing about the call ups is look for Fedun to sit. Eakins has shown he doesn’t have a problem calling up players to sit.

  50. jp says:

    Zelepukin:
    oh shit. Please not be Ebs please not be Ebs.

    And Smyth?

    I honestly hadn’t considered the Ebs thing seriously until now though…

    Edit: if a trade was in the works and everyone knew it, Eakins wouldn’t have called Eberle maybe their best player. I’m sure of that. I think.

  51. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    fifthcartel:
    Haha, I know probably not the most reliable source but hey, why not?

    Tracy Lane ‏@TreenasOil Protected account 11m

    Brown to the sharks is a contract move expect the unexpected

    Tracy Lane ‏@TreenasOil Protected account 1m

    Smid likely involved in trade

    Shit burgers!!

    Schultz not Smid. Schultz not Smid. Schultz not Smid.

  52. Lucinius says:

    No.. please don’t trade Smid!

    We don’t have anyone to replace his style of play! Well, Ference, sorta, but its not the same.

  53. Racki says:

    Guys seriously… I can’t believe some of you follow that person still. About as reliable as Eklund. You get something right once or twice by fluke, and suddenly everyone believes everything you say as true.

  54. Bar_Qu says:

    Racki:
    Guys seriously… I can’t believe some of you follow that person still. About as reliable as Eklund. You get something right once or twice by fluke, and suddenly everyone believes everything you say as true.

    Quoted for truth

  55. justDOit says:

    Sitting on a glut of skull-fracturers, I think the return MacT got of a 4th for Brownie (doin’ a hell of a job…) is almost robbery. Those puzzled by Wilson’s actions can count me in.

    I just hope that LoweMacHow isn’t clearing room for Tootoo.

  56. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Racki:
    Guys seriously… I can’t believe some of you follow that person still. About as reliable as Eklund. You get something right once or twice by fluke, and suddenly everyone believes everything you say as true.

    But, boobs!!!!

    (this should also be quoted for truth!)

  57. wheatnoil says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Shit burgers!!

    Schultz not Smid. Schultz not Smid. Schultz not Smid.

    I think the problem here is that Smid has value that I don’t think Schultz has. Hey, maybe they’re getting a defenseman back and Smid is playing the Brewer role. Dare to dream?

    After a few months that included: firing Krueger, trading for Perron, picking up SMac on waivers, trading Brown, letting Rajala go, and signing Omark… I’ve basically given up trying to predict what MacT is going to do. I didn’t see any of that coming.

  58. Racki says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: But, boobs!!!!

    Hmm, I’ll give you that one. Although you really could just Google those up instead.. :P But yes.. magnificent boobs.

    I will say I think the guy behind this account is piecing things together.. spot freed by trading Brown… Fedun recalled (allegedly)……. defenseman on the move, and something interesting coming this way?

  59. dangilitis says:

    Dead Cat Bounce:
    Why did SJ do this?

    They need Brown like Helen Keller needs reading glasses.

    Must be more coming.

    This is an Oilers blog, not a SJ blog. If you want to talk about your love for Wilson, then move along to a SJ website. You’re deviating from your usual Oilers bashing.

  60. Racki says:

    justDOit:

    I just hope that LoweMacHow isn’t clearing room for Tootoo.

    You, sir, just ruined my night.

    dangilitis: This is an Oilers blog, not a SJ blog. If you want to talk about your love for Wilson, then move along to a SJ website. You’re deviating from your usual Oilers bashing.

    While DCB/DSF is a pain in just about everyone’s ass, I’m pretty sure it’s kosher to talk other teams here.

  61. gr8one says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: But, boobs!!!!

    (this should also be quoted for truth!)

    Indeed, QFT.

  62. gr8one says:

    Racki: You, sir, just ruined my night.

    And this.

  63. gvblackhawk says:

    Lucinius,

    Smid and Nick Schultz are third pairing defensemen at this point. And both are overpaid for their skill sets. Neither are crucial to the success of the Oilers. Let’s not get too choked up here.

  64. Young Oil says:

    Eberle isn’t going anywhere. Not for any price. With Hall and Gagner injured, there is no way they trade him. He has been far and away the best Oiler this season, he’s +5 on a team that’s -10, tied for the team league in points, and is arguably the most loved, most famous, and best Oiler. He has pulled up every single teammate who has played with him this year.

  65. Jaw17 says:

    Guys maybe MacT is a just collecting face punchers because he knows he can trade all of them for a fourth rounder a piece! Genius! Also there’s this from an article over at fearthefin “Brown is terrible. Like, really awful. Over the past five seasons, his teams have earned just 43.8% of the shot attempts with him on the ice at even-strength (good for 390th among 399 qualifying forwards over that span)”

  66. gr8one says:

    If Schultz being one the players that gets to wear the alternating “A” on occasion is any clue as to how they are valued by the organization than that could be a small clue as to which one might be considered as trade bait.

  67. alice13 says:

    I don’t follow how the Brown move anticipates a ’3-for-1′ follow-on trade.
    A 3-for-1 doesn’t need any openings on the 50-man roster, it Creates them.

    (Yes, that math stuff again)

  68. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    The twitters search for “oilers” reveals just how insane the fanbase truly is. You really lose touch here at LT’s. The vast majority of those tweets are pissed we just “lost” Brown.

  69. Bank Shot says:

    MacT is just making space to acquire Sergei Shirokov from the Canucks for picks.

    That kid is really going to be something special! Just ask Dead Cat Bounce.

  70. Racki says:

    My guess is that MacTavish is about to trade Nail Yakupov for 1/3 of the Florida Panthers.

    Ease up guys.. I’m just kidding.

  71. Jaw17 says:

    alice13,

    cap space

  72. Racki says:

    alice13:
    I don’t follow how the Brown move anticipates a ’3-for-1′ follow-on trade.
    A 3-for-1 doesn’t need any openings on the 50-man roster, it Creates them.

    (Yes, that math stuff again)

    Easy there, Math-wiz.. I’m pretty sure they mean trading 1 guy and getting 3 in return.

    Or, 3 for the price of one, if you will… (not to say that’s what’s happening.. just saying that is a possible scenario).

  73. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    alice13:
    I don’t follow how the Brown move anticipates a ’3-for-1′ follow-on trade.
    A 3-for-1 doesn’t need any openings on the 50-man roster, it Creates them.

    (Yes, that math stuff again)

    Agreed. If they are connected, this deal probably impacts the other marginally… small amount of cap room, roster spot, etc.

    Also, the 3-for-1 doesn’t always involve all roster players. Often some moving parts are unsigned prospects, picks.

    FWIW, I don’t think this was a case of waiting on MacT to pull the trigger. If he was going to trade Brown tonight, he was probably willing to do it a month ago. My bet is Wilson returned the call made ages ago.

  74. gr8one says:

    alice13:
    I don’t follow how the Brown move anticipates a ’3-for-1′ follow-on trade.
    A 3-for-1 doesn’t need any openings on the 50-man roster, it Creates them.

    (Yes, that math stuff again)

    Have you considered the possibility that we’d be the team getting the three and not the one?

  75. justDOit says:

    Bank Shot:
    MacT is just making space to acquire Sergei Shirokov from the Canucks for picks.

    That kid is really going to be something special! Just ask Dead Cat Bounce.

    I believe it was Shirokov that I saw in a Nucks/Oilers prospect game in Leduc a few years back. The kid who ran that game went by the name of Eberle – and it wasn’t even close.

  76. Gerta Rauss says:

    alice13:
    I don’t follow how the Brown move anticipates a ’3-for-1′ follow-on trade.
    A 3-for-1 doesn’t need any openings on the 50-man roster, it Creates them.

    (Yes, that math stuff again)

    ha…I was just about to post the same thing.

    I could see a Smid for Coburn deal here if/when the other shoe drops.I’m not endorsing such a move,I’m just sayin’ that that’s the kind of deal I could see happening. Maybe some other pieces involved.

  77. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Racki: Easy there, Math-wiz.. I’m pretty sure they mean trading 1 guy and getting 3 in return.

    Or, 3 for the price of one, if you will…

    The classic LT “3-for-1″ works the other way, ie. the Pronger trade.

  78. gr8one says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    The twitters search for “oilers” reveals just how insane the fanbase truly is. You really lose touch here at LT’s. The vast majority of those tweets are pissed we just “lost” Brown.

    I know, right? Brew toll.

  79. Racki says:

    gr8one: Have you considered the possibility that we’d be the team getting the three and not the one?

    *mind explodes*

  80. Racki says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: 3 for 1

    Damn you guys and your running jokes here..

  81. Dead Cat Bounce says:

    SciencePorn ‏@SciencePorn

    The last two speakers of the Mexican language Zoque are both in their seventies and refuse to speak to one another.

  82. justDOit says:

    gr8one: Have you considered the possibility that we’d be the team getting the three and not the one?

    The ’3 for 1′ harkens back to the trade that brought in ‘The One Who Shall Not Be Named’ to Edmonton. Brewer, Lynch and Woywitka for Lauren Pronger’s husband.

  83. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    gvblackhawk:
    Lucinius,

    Smid and Nick Schultz are third pairing defensemen at this point.And both are overpaid for their skill sets.Neither are crucial to the success of the Oilers.Let’s not get too choked up here.

    I don’t necessarily disagree. But I prefer Smid to Schultz and I’m not convinced MacT is all-in on the a puck moving defence.

    Matty and others (who may very well be wrong or projecting) have very recently suggested the team was looking for a defensive defender, 3rd pairing, who wrecks things… i.e, in the Fistric/Peckham mold. If that is the case, it’s unlikely MacT trades both as he may well have a strong affinity for this genre.

  84. Dead Cat Bounce says:

    Megalodon @MegalodonBOC

    Re: Mike Brown. Sharks clearly felt they needed an anchor to make things fair to the other teams in the league.

  85. alice13 says:

    Sorry, LT’s mythical 3-for-1 is of the 3-out, 1-back variety, that’s what I thought was being floated.
    I get that vacating Brown’s chair creates some valuable wiggle room for other and lesser incarnations.

  86. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Dead Cat Bounce:
    Megalodon @MegalodonBOC

    Re: Mike Brown. Sharks clearly felt they needed an anchor to make things fair to the other teams in the league.

    Ha!

    Next they’ll be handing out participation ribbons to the away teams!

  87. Racki says:

    alice13:
    Sorry, LT’s mythical 3-for-1 is of the 3-out, 1-back variety, that’s what I thought was being floated.
    I get that vacating Brown’s chair creates some valuable wiggle room for other and lesser incarnations.

    Yah my bad.. I just started being a regular in these parts, so I’m not up to all the running bits you guys have here.

  88. WillyMayhem says:

    The 3 for 1 trade MacT should have made was to trade the whole Oilers 4th line out of town for a bag of pucks. Great site LT. Read daily but post semi biannually.

  89. PunjabiOil says:

    Good news on the Hall front. Level 1-2 MCL sprain. Will be out 3-4 weeks.

    Could have been worse.

    Source: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/search.php?searchid=23102741&pp=25

    That guy has a history of posting accurate information before released to public.

  90. Lowetide says:

    PunjabiOil:
    Good news on the Hall front.Level 1-2 MCL sprain.Will be out 3-4 weeks.

    Could have been worse.

    Source:http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/search.php?searchid=23102741&pp=25

    That guy has a history of posting accurate information before released to public.

    I’m not sure how anyone can know before the MRI? That was posted 24 hours ago.

  91. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    PunjabiOil: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/search.php?searchid=23102741&pp=25

    That says yesterday 9:40 pm. So… assuming mountain time, that means it was posted at 9:40 on the 20th, way before anyone would be in a position to know.

    If they are on EST, it would be just a few hours ago and could be from Hall’s MRI/doctor’s visit today (which was said to be for today or tomorrow).

  92. PunjabiOil says:

    It’s past midnight eastern time. Hence ”yesterday” is actually today – October 21st.

  93. Racki says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: That says yesterday 9:40 pm. So… assuming mountain time, that means it was posted at 9:40 on the 20th, way before anyone would be in a position to know.

    If they are on EST, it would be just a few hours ago and could be from Hall’s MRI/doctor’s visit today (which was said to be for today or tomorrow).

    Not to say this is legit, but that was posted today at 9:40 (edit, 8:40, rather).. it’s just the server time is an hour ahead… so it thinks it’s the 22nd now (12:30 on the 22nd.), evidenced by the last post in the Pitlick thread (or the most recent post you can find there, really.

    So with that in mind, it was posted at 8:40PM today.

  94. Chris109 says:

    Brown trade frees up a spot to claim MPS when he hits waivers from St. Louis

  95. Oilanderp says:

    Brown was a soldier doing a job no one else wanted to do around these parts. Good job, Brownie. As a reward, go to California! Good luck, mustachioed one (sail on).

  96. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    First NHL trade in nearly a month apparently:

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=675589&navid=nhl:topheads

    It’s drier than cracker out there and MacT pulled a 4th rounder for Brown. I’m still in shock.

  97. Colonel Obvious says:

    The Brown trade is inexplicable. And yet it has happened twice. The world is a strange place.

    In the last thread some people were talking about the Penguins–Avalanche game. If any of you didn’t watch it all you need to know is that the Penguins absolutely kicked the shit out of the Avalanche. The Avalanche were dominated worse than the Oilers any game this year. A complete, and total, shit kicking.

    If that is the kind of game that gets people talking about playing together as a team, blocking shots, shot quality, etc., then some people are hopeless. The Avalanche were terrible. Dreadful. There are no words for how one sided the game was.

    It is amazing how much the feeble minded have their perceptions altered by outcome bias.

  98. Racki says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    First NHL trade in nearly a month apparently:

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=675589&navid=nhl:topheads

    It’s drier than cracker out there and MacT pulled a 4th rounder for Brown. I’m still in shock.

    This is the biggest blockbuster trade since the season started!

  99. Zelepukin says:

    Colonel Obvious:
    The Brown trade is inexplicable.And yet it has happened twice.The world is a strange place.

    In the last thread some people were talking about the Penguins–Avalanche game.If any of you didn’t watch it all you need to know is that the Penguins absolutely kicked the shit out of the Avalanche.The Avalanche were dominated worse than the Oilers any game this year.A complete, and total, shit kicking.

    If that is the kind of game that gets people talking about playing together as a team, blocking shots, shot quality, etc., then some people are hopeless.The Avalanche were terrible.Dreadful.There are no words for how one sided the game was.

    It is amazing how much the feeble minded have their perceptions altered by outcome bias.

    this is total bullshit. I watched the entire game. Pittsburgh is definitely a better team than Colorado, but this was not a shit kicking in a fashion that was worse than any Oil game this year.

    It takes more than just your goalie to shut-out the best offensive player/ probably line and shut-down the 3rd best PP in all 7 attempts. Colorado blocked a ton of shots and only had 1 giveaway, the whole game. They had their chances but in no way did they play a sloppy game.

  100. Hammers says:

    The real question is why has Fedun been called up . Just to replace Grebs / Nultz or is a real trade in the works . Hoping for Cobourn or a Campbell maybe Smid & another asset say Garnet or Musil a 2 for 1 .Still think the trade is for an upgrade on “D” .

  101. Colonel Obvious says:

    Zelepukin,

    I watched the entire game as well and all I can say is you must be a blind squirrel.

    They blocked a ton of shots because the puck was in their end the entire game.

    They had one giveaway because they never had the puck.

    The went entire periods without any shots.

    The Avalanche were dominated in every way. If the Oilers stole one the other day against the Senators (and they did) it was a tiny theft, a bit of shoplifting. This was robbing from King Tut’s tomb.

  102. jp says:

    alice13:
    I don’t follow how the Brown move anticipates a ’3-for-1′ follow-on trade.
    A 3-for-1 doesn’t need any openings on the 50-man roster, it Creates them.

    (Yes, that math stuff again)

    It doesn’t. My bad as I believe I started the 3 for 1 talk tonight.

    In my excitement over the real or imagined Eberle/Smid/Brown/Schultz/Eager/Pitlick/Fedun moves 3 for 1 inexplicably and temporarily got switched to 1 for 3 in my head. I was still thinking of it in the 3 Oilers for 1 star kinda way, just got the clearing roster space thing backwards. Trade talk really does make us crazy. By the time I realized it was too late to edit. Sorry for the confusion!

  103. jfry says:

    If we’re thinking of trading for the three for one pie in the sky you’d probably want to give some eastern team/s an opportunity to see these players in the show once or twice. Pit lick, fedun and eager seem like the exact type of sweeteners other teams might be sniffing around.

    The idea of having a fourth line of hockey players has become a bit mind blowing because oilers

  104. G Money says:

    Sorry guys, but I *have* to take credit for this one.

    At 8:11pm, I posted the following: But the fourth line is still the hateful piece of sh*t that I expected it to be before the season, and I blamed Tubthumper Jr, Gasdick, and Nepotism Boy in equal measure.
    But the last game, where Acton played some shifts with real hockey players – those shifts, he actually *looked* like an NHL player. Make a pass, take a pass, skate, all those oddities.
    I’ve now revised my thinking – Acton may actually be a decent 4C, but Brown and Gazdic are truly even more excrement-like than I thought. (And I feel bad saying that, because both of them at least put out an honest effort each night, but poo is poo).

    At 8:15 pm, the Oilers tweeted that Brown had been traded.

    Coincidence? I think not.

  105. spoiler says:

    If this was just a case of Wilson finally returning MacT’s call after the Gazdic pickup, then it is more likely there are no followup moves.

    I suspect that isn’t the case though. The rumour mill has been heating up and there sounds like there are a few teams willing to make trades, and with our cap space, I’d think MacT would be all over any chance to improve the team. Something has to shake loose.

    Tootoo seems the obvious target and he would be an upgrade on Brown, Sharks couldn’t take Tootoo because of cap space issues.

    But that doesn’t explain Smid rumour or our plethora of Dmen. Plus Potter is skating with the team and will be going to OKC soon for conditioning, which means a roster spot.

    I would be okay with something like Smid + Larsen for Coburn. Not so much for Myers.

  106. G Money says:

    Lucinius: No.. please don’t trade Smid!

    Schultz Sr is poo!

    You’re welcome.

    Any minute now …

  107. Zelepukin says:

    Colonel Obvious:
    Zelepukin,

    I watched the entire game as well and all I can say is you must be a blind squirrel.

    They blocked a ton of shots because the puck was in their end the entire game.

    They had one giveaway because they never had the puck.

    The went entire periods without any shots.

    The Avalanche were dominated in every way.If the Oilers stole one the other day against the Senators (and they did) it was a tiny theft, a bit of shoplifting.This was robbing from King Tut’s tomb.

    and yet they won, but not because they were dreadful like you originally mentioned. They converted once and then played a shutdown game probably the best they could given how dominated they were in the dots. Add that to their penalty issues and the fact Crosby played almost half the game, its no wonder they never had the puck. Pittsburgh played a very intense, smart game.

    I agree with you that they were dominated but they were not terrible or dreadful like you said. Giguere played amazing but he also didn’t have to make a lot of acrobatic saves/ unrealistic gamesavers. For the most part the Avs cleared the lanes well for him to be aggressive on shots or got in the lanes and made the blocks. You throw Dubs in there and half those shots have shitty rebounds and frantic D searching for pucks instead of picking up Sid creeping on the goal line.

  108. Colonel Obvious says:

    Some numbers on the Penguins–Avalanche game.

    Corsi: 72-29
    Fenwick: 50-18

    And it was worse than this until the last five minutes of the game. The Avalanche didn’t even have a shot attempt towards the net until about 15 minutes of the first period.

    That’s an asskicking. And it wasn’t all powerplays, though I’m not sure why you would discount powerplays since they were earned by totally dominating the play. At even strength the Avalanche had a 35% Corsi and Fenwick percentage.

    For comparison’s sake in the horrible Canucks game the Oilers lost the Corsi battle 74-55 and Fenwick 55-35.

    So the Avalanche were outplayed by possession numbers every bit as bad as the Oilers were against the Canucks. It was that bad by eye as well.

  109. spoiler says:

    Oh and trading Brown for what he cost is a beautiful move by MacT. Cost-free rental. Gotta like it.

  110. Colonel Obvious says:

    Zelepukin,

    If you agree the Avalanche were dominated, I will agree they played well.

  111. stevezie says:

    I just finished watching that Pens game on tape delay, and Colorado got the shit kicked out of them.

    Now, credit to the Avs, if you’re going to get the shit kicked out of you you might as well block all the shots the other team takes. They did a great job of mitigating the shit-kicking. Honestly, that’s a good team attribute.

    The Pens PP was fantastic. Saying they went 0-7 on the pp is a great example of telling a true story without telling the whole story.

    Giggy was very good.

  112. PaperDesigner says:

    Colonel Obvious:
    Some numbers on the Penguins–Avalanche game.

    Corsi: 72-29
    Fenwick: 50-18

    And it was worse than this until the last five minutes of the game.The Avalanche didn’t even have a shot attempt towards the net until about 15 minutes of the first period.

    That’s an asskicking.And it wasn’t all powerplays, though I’m not sure why you would discount powerplays since they were earned by totally dominating the play.At even strength the Avalanche had a 35% Corsi and Fenwick percentage.

    For comparison’s sake in the horrible Canucks game the Oilers lost the Corsi battle 74-55 and Fenwick 55-35.

    So the Avalanche were outplayed by possession numbers every bit as bad as the Oilers were against the Canucks.It was that bad by eye as well.

    I was really excited, personally, because I had Varlamov in my hockey pool. And then realized that Colorado had started Giguere. *Sigh*

    Has Colorado been riding percentages all season, or was this a one-off?

  113. stevezie says:

    Brown. Oh Yeah Brown. I really loved that moustache. I wish him well because of it. Great trade.

    Racki: ….. subcontract him to provide security at my new restaurant I just opened?

    Sometimes I just have tell someone I thought they were funny. Well played.

    “Ireland reports that Ben Eager is on his way to Montreal to join the club.”

    At first I assumed we had traded him too. I wish, Eager sucks. His skating seduces people into looking past his results. He is like a Brown who can’t fight. CO is given to hyperbole, but when he inevitably calls Ben Eager useless he will be the bangest of bang on.

  114. PaperDesigner says:

    Colonel Obvious:
    Zelepukin,

    Ifyou agree the Avalanche were dominated, I will agree they played well.

    Certainly. I mean, all “well” has to mean is “a heck of a lot better than any of us would do against the Penguins”, and yes, the Avalanche played very well indeed!

  115. stevezie says:

    PaperDesigner,

    They did a good job of being dominated, which usually means well-coached but under-talented. I’m not sure that applies to this team so I will suspend judgement until I see a second game.

  116. PaperDesigner says:

    Eberle, Marincin and Smid for Ekman-Larsson and a pick?

    I’d do it.

  117. PaperDesigner says:

    stevezie:
    Brown. Oh Yeah Brown. I really loved that moustache. I wish him well because of it. Great trade.

    Sometimes I just have tell someone I thought they were funny. Well played.

    “Ireland reports that Ben Eager is on his way to Montreal to join the club.”

    At first I assumed we had traded him too. I wish, Eager sucks. His skating seduces people into looking past his results. He is like a Brown who can’t fight.CO is given to hyperbole, but when he inevitably calls Ben Eager useless he will be the bangest of bang on.

    I could be wrong, but I think Ben Eager is a member of the prestigious “been a part of an NHL fourth line based on merit club”, a fraternity that has not boasted Gazdic or probably Acton amongst its members. He is probably the best hockey player of the three.

    I will say the roster churns pretty fast under MacTavish and Acton. Does anyone else remember as many recalls, demotions, and moves before we reached November? I don’t.

  118. stevezie says:

    PaperDesigner,

    I remember a semi-recent study of Colin Fraser which argued that most 4th liners will look good on a good team’s 4th line and bad on a bad teams’ 4th line. I don’t know; I am willing to entertain arguments that Eager has not always sucked, and even that he will not always suck. However, to my ignorant eye, he really sucked for the Oilers.

    Gazdic is not a great player, but he at least does the marginal things that are supposed to balance out his shortcomings. Feel free to say they don’t balance out anything, but at least he does them.

    I think Eager has these same shortcomings but does nothing to balance them. It’s not just fighting, I don’t see him banging, crashing or agitating. He is just there, quietly sucking. He might be a better hockey player than Gazdic, but that isn’t good enough to do as little as Eager does and draw a big-league paycheque.

    PaperDesigner: I will say the roster churns pretty fast under MacTavish and Acton. Does anyone else remember as many recalls, demotions, and moves before we reached November? I don’t

    Nope. Especially of guys who showed up but never played. It’s neat.

  119. 719 says:

    N. Shultz to Tampa Bay? We all know how highly Yzerman speaks of the man.

    Seriously though, the rumor is Buffalo, Florida, Philadelphia and Edmonton are the teams most wanting to make a move right now. Potential trade targets for the Oilers as I see it:

    T. Myers – Buffalo

    B. Campbell – Florida

    W. Simmonds, S. Coutourier and B. Coburn – Philadelphia

    …we wait and see.

  120. Cobbler says:

    Racki,

    FWIW, an MRI is not required for an MCL diagnosis. Any doctor worth his salt should be able to diagnose the degree of injury on the spot or the day after. The MRI is just being used to confirm, get a visual on the extent of damage.

    Excellent move by MacT with the Brown trade. If nothing else happens he has more flexibility to move salary back and forth from the AHL or to complete other moves.

  121. Gret99zky says:

    Wilson must have backed into MacT’s car in the parking lot and this was the “we don’t have to call the insurance company, do we?” deal.

    If you didn’t know the dent was there you can’t even see it.

  122. DeadmanWaking says:

    G Money: Gasdick

    Doug Wilson: Last and least, about Brown. [Looks at watch.] Damn it’s late. Already after eight, and I promised the wife. Do we have our final assessment?

    Assistant: Traffic seems light tonight. If you avoid the bridge, you might squeak in under the wire.

    Doug Wilson: Not that. About Brown. Do we have our assessment?

    Assistant: Pretty much.

    Doug Wilson: Pretty much?

    Assistant: You know that promising research assistant, the new one we hired just a few weeks ago? He just walked out the front door and put his head into the public fountain, not one minute ago.

    Doug Wilson: The baby-faced ginger from Baastan I put in charge of monitoring the Brogueosphere and The Twitter? Comes with the territory. He’ll be back.

    Assistant: Not this one, I don’t think. He didn’t even corral his tie. It flopped straight into the goose poop flotilla. I dare say that’s one tie who’s seen the end of overtime around these parts.

    Doug Wilson: Brown?

    Assistant: Green, usually. That stuff just wicks up …

    Doug Wilson: Moving on. About Brown?

    Assistant: Oh, yeah. I think we should trade our fourth to Buffalo for a fifth and a useful player.

    Doug Wilson: Heh heh. So do I. But we don’t have Buffalo on the phone, we’ve got Buffalo North, where the buffalo once roamed with frozen balls. He’s not offering a fifth, and we’re not even sure this player is useful.

    Assistant: No way we get a new guy up to speed before Halloween. Why do we always end up with some fresh-faced kid from Boston? We’re on the wrong coast. You know that, don’t you? Anyway, maybe not the best time to fill that post. Movember is almost upon us. I say we act now on what we have, or screw it.

    Doug Wilson: Can he take a regular spin in garbage time? Does he get his nose dirty?

    Assistant: Oh yeah. Brown’s golden. A man with a wick like that doesn’t kneel down for a twirly.

    Doug Wilson: Well then, let’s do it. We’ve got bigger fish to fry.

    Assistant: And better fish. Just thinking about those goldfish in the public fountain for three minutes puts me off my dinner for half the drive home.

    At 8:15 pm, the Oilers tweet that Brown had been traded.

  123. Lowetide says:

    DMW: Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

  124. DeadmanWaking says:

    Damn, it should have been after seven. I’m losing my touch.

  125. rich says:

    @ DMW – that prose didn’t even require a 2nd cup of coffee to get thru. That is better than the ad copy I read daily.

    Bravo.

  126. russ99 says:

    Nice move to get a pick back for what’s become a redundant piece, especially when MacIntyre comes back.

    Still, worried about who’s out when the other shoe drops.

    Eberle is hopefully coincidental. The wouldn’t trade Ebs (or Yak) with Hall out for an undetermined time, would they?

    But we probably could get some nice pieces for Eberle/Smid….

  127. TheGreatMutato says:

    DeadmanWaking:
    Assistant: Green, usually.That stuff just wicks up …

    Wonderful. Thanks for that =)

  128. tubes says:

    Is anyone else listening to Rishaug on 1260 right now? He’s upset about this trade?? I thought he was smarter than that…

  129. Nuckout says:

    MacT comes away like a bandit again. I mean seriously, think about it.

    Acquired for a 4th round pick last year, got roughly a half seasons use out of him, and shuffles him off for a 2ND round pick. MacT should pitch a reality show to A&E called “Flip that 4th liner”. Watch as Mac T picks up a sleeper 2nd round pick, or uses that in a trade.. It’s a SLIGHT gamble, but the odds are great.

    I would bet the farm that this ISN’T part of a bigger deal. Trimming the fat.

    What has brown done this year that Gazdic or Eager or SMac couldn’t pull off? A couple of fights? Any man worth his salt can grow a mustache.

    Oilers won this deal, full stop.

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