PANTHERS AT OILERS, G24, 13-14

When it comes to quality additions over the summer, the contest for Oiler winner comes down to David Perron versus Boyd Gordon. Perron’s offense and agitating have been terrific, but Boyd Gordon has been a perfect fit and more.

WHAT DID THE OILERS NEED HIM TO DO?

They needed Boyd Gordon to be the man in the middle. Penalty-kill, own zone starts, tough opposition, take care of Luca Brasi when needed; he’s done it all so far and then some. Gordon’s appeal is that he can plug into any line needed and deliver as required. He’s been a delight offensively as a for instance, while also delivering in areas like penalty-kill and faceoffs. Boyd Gordon, perfect fit.

VOLLMAN SLEDGEHAMMER

forwards 13-14

Gordon has severe zone starts, is facing tough competition and has been a Godsend. Jordan Eberle is the only forward able to post a blue bubble and Ryan Smyth is having a nice season. A bit of a zone start push for Yakupov, no? Perron, Hemsky, Nuge, Hall, they’re all bunched together there in what seems to be a team with three two-way lines. As good as Gordon has been, he needs some help over there in the shutdown quadrant. I expect Smyth and Perron will mosey over as the season wears along.

FORWARDS EVEN STRENGTH TIME ON ICE

  1. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 17:00
  2. Taylor Hall 16:59
  3. Jordan Eberle 16:32
  4. David Perron 16:24
  5. Sam Gagner 15:47
  6. Ales Hemsky 14:29
  7. Mark Arcobello 13:41
  8. Nail Yakupov 13:11
  9. Ryan Smyth 11:44
  10. Boyd Gordon 11:22
  11. Ryan Jones 9:14
  12. Jesse Joensuu 8:14
  13. Will Acton 5:34
  14. Luke Gazdic 5:33

Coach Eakins is rolling those kids pretty strong and didn’t waste any time getting Gagner into the deep end either. Hemsky rounds out the top 6F TOI at even strength (this is nhl.com) and then Arco-Yakupov are the bridge players to the 3 and 4 lines. Smyth-Gordon are playing close to 4 minutes a night each on the special teams but they can play a little less at evens if the top 2lines are pushing. Jones/Joensuu are the utility forwards and Acton-Gazdic give the team a Toronto Maple Leafs ‘Mama, we’re all Crazee Now” feel.

 CORSI ON (BTN)

corsi on forwardsEberle’s the only Johnny Cash so far this season, but bench press is second and all of Perron, Hemsky and Nugent-Hopkins are below -5. After that, we have Gagner, Smyth, Yakupov, Hall and Jones in the ‘they need to post blue bubbles’ pile and then after that you’re either Boyd Gordon or we’re not happy.

QUALITY OF COMPETITION (BTN)

quality of comp forwardsI don’t think there’s much surprising here, would have thought the Nuge and Gagner’s numbers would be switched but then again Gagner was playing with Hall much of the last 10 games. Perron and Hall are having nice seasons considering, Smyth too imo. This team would have done Yakupov a massive favor by giving him a veteran like Horcoff (and or Kulemin) in an effort to improve him quickly. I wonder how much Hall and Ebs were helped by Horcoff? Some of that contract money might be well spent by spoiling old #10 next time they’re in Dallas. The toughest CorsiRel belongs to Gagner, who was well short of 100% these games. I think that’s on the coach—and it definitely had an impact.

5×5/60 (BTN)

  1. Taylor Hall 2.32
  2. Mark Arcobello 2.25
  3. David Perron 2.22
  4. Jordan Eberle 2.16
  5. Ryan Smyth 1.92
  6. Will Acton 1.70
  7. Ryan Jones 1.62
  8. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 1.58
  9. Boyd Gordon 1.39
  10. Ben Eager 1.19
  11. Ales Hemsky 1.13
  12. Luke Gazdic 1.08
  13. Sam Gagner 0.79
  14. Nail Yakupov 0.67
  15. Jesse Joensuu playing Teemu Hartikainen 0.00

Hall’s Hall, he’s always pushed the river at even strength. Arcobello has been solid this season and is miles more productive than Gagner (although Samwise is getting his points and chances—he’s not there but is close). After that, Perron & Eberle are having fine starts and Ryan Smyth is playing well thank you; Will Acton has been making some use of those 5 minutes a night and then we’re down to wondering a little about Nuge and a lot about Hemsky, Gagner and Mr. Yakupov.

We can make reasons for all of them, but Sam Gagner hurt the team coming back too soon, Hemsky isn’t earning 5 large at even strength and Yakupov needs to have more games like Tuesday. Understand, I love all three players but if we’re being honest this disaster of a season falls on some forwards as well as the blue and the goalie and the coach and the general manager.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

deneuve1Big game tonight, Oilers have a chance to win three in a row against a team they’ve beaten earlier this season. Scheduled to appear:

  • Matt Henderson, Hockeybuzz.We’ll preview the Oilers-Panthers are try to find a #1 defenseman not named Ehrhoff.
  • Rob Soria, Oil Drop. We’ll talk about keepers for next year and Bryzgalov’s debut.
  • Kirk Luedeke, Red Line Report. The Bruins side of the Seguin-Eriksson deal and the 2014 draft.
  • Guy Flaming, Pipeline Show. Nurse for the WJ’s and the 2014 draft.

10-1260 and @Lowetide_ we’ll also talk Grey Cup!

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  1. Lloyd B. says:

    Not sure how long this 5 forward concept works on the PP ….but…wow…it is awesome when it works !!! Maybe…just maybe…this becomes the “norm” in the league and it opens things up.

  2. Nuckout says:

    G Money:
    Fair to say Gags and Yak have turned the corner?

    From the coulda-shoulda department:Tom Gilbert is better by far than any current Oiler defenseman at calmly retrieving the puck and making a good exit pass.

    Gilbert is the kind of calm and non-chalant player Jultz wants to be.

  3. VanOil says:

    Chris:
    Apparently the Oilers found lightning in a bottle down in Calgary. I don’t know who this team is but I am enjoying seeing a team other than the Oilers being made to look foolish and inadequate.

    The Legend of LTs Wall of Fuck second intermission rant in Calgary grows. There will be ballads by the morning.

  4. Kitchener says:

    (fictional conversation amongst Oil coaches):

    1: Let’s put our top five players on the 1PP
    2: What happens to 2PP when 1PP gets tired?
    1: They’ll score in under 70 seconds guaranteed.

    That 1PP is awesome. So much puck movement and a shooter in every position. It’s like we finally got the cheat codes working on EA sports.

  5. OilClog says:

    gr8one: I’d feel a lot better if we were actually beating good teams…

    That being said, I’ll take this for now!

    They’re doing what good teams do, beat down bad teams.

  6. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Gagner… man. guy needs something. put a turnip in his pillow at night, I hear that helps.

    So… who put the turnip in 89′s pillow?

  7. hunter1909 says:

    Chris: Apparently the Oilers found lightning in a bottle down in Calgary.

    Maybe when Ference was beating up that Flame – somehow the other Oilers knew he was symbolically beating the living daylights out of each and every one of them.

  8. G Money says:

    VanOil:
    Wow Florida announce crew brigs up the Oilers are currently on a 14-0 goal run stretching back to the third in Calgary.

    Worth noting: bad teams, yes, but it’s one thing to light up Yogi Berra, its another to chase the defending Vezina champion, and follow it up by lighting up the guy second on the all-time save percentage list…

  9. Andy P says:

    OilBuzz: Never giving up on puck battles, tape-to-tape passing, solid goaltending, good coverage, maintaining possession, functioning powerplay…Is it safe to cheer again?

    Not yet. Just enjoy the moment.

  10. fuzzy muppet says:

    Looks like Dubnyk is back. yikes

  11. OilClog says:

    Arco would of made the play lol

  12. G Money says:

    Upshall is trying to one-upshall Perron

  13. Chris says:

    I’m willing to accept imperfection from Dubynk his numbers for the last couple games have been Vezina caliber. But I feel he owes us more of this granted that he started the season leaving a large brown stain all over the crease.

  14. VanOil says:

    I may have mentioned this before but I like #18 with the Panthers

  15. Pouzar says:

    Potter hasn’t been good

  16. Lowetide says:

    Well, if this season goes according to script the Oilers will now give up 28 unanswered goals.

  17. hunter1909 says:

    So. As soon as I semi praise Dubnyk, they allow 1 goal, and start a fire drill??

  18. Nuckout says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    Looks like Dubnyk is back.yikes

    That’s 13 unanswered goals. I think Dubey’s off the hook for a bit.

  19. G Money says:

    I have only seen Potter bad this game. Not just the horrible giveaway, but all kinds of doofus plays.

    Frickin’ love that goddamn Frenchman!!!!

  20. justDOit says:

    hunter1909:
    Wtf happened to Dubnyk? I’ll freely admit to knowing next to nothing compared to these NHL people, but he’s playing like a brick wall

    Seems to be moving better, for one.

  21. hunter1909 says:

    Saved by the bell.

  22. Nuckout says:

    G Money:

    Frickin’ love that goddamn Frenchman!!!!

    Cet homme est faite d’or!

  23. Chris says:

    I was glad that the Oilers acquired Perron as my impression was he was much better than Parjarvi but I never really expected him to be this good. He’s been a force to be reckoned with thus far this season.and the fabled “hard to play against”.

  24. justDOit says:

    Overall, I like the way this game is going – win or lose. There have been many moments when I could hear, ‘Sweet Georgia Brown’ while watching, and it wasn’t because the Oilers were running a fire drill – they were running the Panthers’ show!

  25. Chris says:

    David Perron is the new Stan Weir.

  26. justDOit says:

    btw: Some of the commercials on the Panthers’ feed are worth the price of admission. Their hockey analysts are also not afraid to talk nicely about the Oilers – highlighting a nice stick lift by Ebs in the slot.

  27. GordM says:

    Gordon goes 91% (10 of 11) through 2. Puck possession (or lack thereof) has such an impact on this team.

  28. G Money says:

    Nuckout: Cet homme est faite d’or!

    Et ses mains sont faites de soie et d’acier!

  29. G Money says:

    justDOit,

    Its nice to not be the Generals for a change!

  30. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    So… let’s see if we can do that whole 60 minute thing.

  31. Nuckout says:

    G Money: Et ses mains sont faites de soie et d’acier!

    David Perron, vous êtes mon héros.

  32. Andy P says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    So… let’s see if we can do that whole 60 minute thing.

    Yes Please!

  33. justDOit says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    So… let’s see if we can do that whole 60 minute thing.

    Ed Zackley.

  34. G Money says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    So… let’s see if we can do that whole 60 minute thing.

    Five seconds to register the first shot … Good start! How many periods have we seen this team get into the double digits in MINUTES before registering a shot?

  35. VanOil says:

    Perron pissing off a lady byng winner, good. Too many men on the PP, bad.

  36. jp says:

    Great to see the Oilers doing well again tonight (the usual qualifications apply: bad opponent and such, but it’s still nice).

    I’ve been too busy to follow the threads much lately. Has it been noted that Eakins looks no happier when the team is winning?

  37. G Money says:

    No wonder they put Smac on waivers, looks like we found our new enforcer.

  38. VanOil says:

    Yak telling jokes in the Box. Bad boy.

  39. Chris says:

    Dumb penalty but at the same time I don’t mind seeing Upshall getting punched repeatedly in the face.

  40. jp says:

    The Fla announcers want 2 for roughing, 2 for instigating and 5 for fighting for Ference on that… Hoping/expecting a 4 min PP. Huh.

  41. G Money says:

    Acton is not a good player.

  42. Nuckout says:

    jp:
    Great to see the Oilers doing well again tonight (the usual qualifications apply: bad opponent and such, but it’s still nice).

    I’ve been too busy to follow the threads much lately. Has it been noted that Eakins looks no happier when the team is winning?

    Eakins looks like a man who’s been through hell and back, he’s got this “I’ve seen things man, thiiiinngs” sort of look. He’s turned the corner.

  43. OilBuzz says:

    LOL@ Upshall’s whiplash

  44. Chris says:

    Eakins looks like he’s recieved a stay of execution but he’s rather worried about how the appeal may go.

  45. Chris says:

    Ah hell the refs are trying to get Florida back into this game.

  46. Kitchener says:

    Zebras cheering for Panthers.

  47. RexLibris says:

    G Money:
    Acton is not a good player.

    Not terrible for a 4th liner on a weaker team, but when you have an Arcobello in the wings it does raise some questions.

  48. hunter1909 says:

    Ference earning his C by teaching the cubs what it takes to win.

  49. Lowetide says:

    This is what is called letting a team back into the game. Lordy.

  50. RexLibris says:

    Should’ve toe-dragged, Hall.

    ;)

  51. Chris says:

    But hey the goaltending and penalty kill are better. Its nice not to wince at every shot.

  52. RexLibris says:

    Back to one-and-dones.

  53. pboy says:

    No one at Rexall is ever going to have to scream SHOOT at Perron.

  54. G Money says:

    RexLibris:
    Back to one-and-dones.

    In their defense, it was a one-and-done with a player in front of the net… Nice to see.

  55. hunter1909 says:

    Yakupov + Hemsky play like communists.

  56. RexLibris says:

    That Jackman trade surprised me. I would’ve thought the Flames could get more in a month or two.

  57. RexLibris says:

    G Money: In their defense, it was a one-and-done with a player in front of the net… Nice to see.

    True, but the loss of possession means that planted player has to get on his horse, and given that that player is most likely Sam Gagner, well…

  58. Kitchener says:

    pboy,

    TOURNER

  59. justDOit says:

    Yeah, they’re letting the Cats back into it, but DD is making some timely saves, and I’m impressed with the effort overall. Enjoyable game. Puck movement has been so crisp, you could bounce a W off it. Nice.

  60. justDOit says:

    RexLibris:
    That Jackman trade surprised me. I would’ve thought the Flames could get more in a month or two.

    Doesn’t matter when they claim SMac off waivers. Poor Gadzooks – I knew him well…

  61. G Money says:

    Man, that Mathias would look good in copper and blue…

  62. pboy says:

    Oilers had a lull but playing much better now.

  63. pboy says:

    G Money,

    Seconded

  64. G Money says:

    Yak is a beast out there…

  65. gr8one says:

    How long before that idiot kid that keeps jumping up to ham for the camera whenever the pucks in the oilers zone gets forearm shivered?

  66. RexLibris says:

    G Money:
    Man, that Mathias would look good in copper and blue…

    He is one of the rumoured players on offer. So what is the reasonable price? Musil and a pick? Lander +?

  67. Nuckout says:

    They’re falling back into some old defensive woes, and they’re scared to screw up. Time for a patented random Eakins time out.

  68. OilBuzz says:

    gr8one:
    How long before that idiot kid that keeps jumping up to ham for the camera whenever the pucks in the oilers zone gets forearm shivered?

    My thoughts exactly

  69. Kitchener says:

    Someone needs to fight Upshall to get him back in the box, but without the extra 2. He’s looking like trouble.

    What I like about Yak’s recent “revival” is the passes. Yeah, he has a good shot, but it’s his vision & quick passing that kills opponents. At least, in the OHL.

  70. G Money says:

    In the books. SQUEEEEEEEEEE

  71. pboy says:

    Ebs is a patient little prick.

  72. Lowetide says:

    Eberle (Nugent-Hopkins, Hall) repeat

  73. RexLibris says:

    Hall took a stick in the face to get that puck across the red line. Good for him.

  74. G Money says:

    RexLibris: He is one of the rumoured players on offer. So what is the reasonable price? Musil and a pick? Lander +?

    Yes please!

  75. Rebilled says:

    Healthy roster + 2 games = 11 goals + 2 wins.

  76. G Money says:

    gr8one:
    How long before that idiot kid that keeps jumping up to ham for the camera whenever the pucks in the oilers zone gets forearm shivered?

    I dig your curmudgeonry!

  77. RexLibris says:

    Here’s hoping a cantankerous Panthers squad skates into the Saddledome tomorrow night.

  78. Kitchener says:

    What a beautiful EN goal. Vintage 4-93-14.

  79. G Money says:

    Nuckout:
    They’re falling back into some old defensive woes, and they’re scared to screw up. Time for a patented random Eakins time out.

    This is what “score effects” looks like from the other side.

  80. Chris says:

    We healthily outshot our opponent, the special teams looked great, the goaltending was good. Who is this team? Can we keep them?

  81. RexLibris says:

    G Money: Yes please!

    Given the Versteeg pricetag I don’t think those are unreasonable starting points.

    Tallon loves (LOVES!) draft picks, so a prospect and a 4th rounder for Matthias seems doable. Depends on the market. But trading him across the continent allows the Panthers to not see him again that often and the Oilers to bulk up in the Beefcake Division.

  82. G Money says:

    RexLibris,

    If that works, MacT needs to camp outside Tallon’s hotel room and make sure the Panthers leave town down one Mathias.

  83. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide,

    Given your comments after the Smid trade about MacTavish and loyalties to “his” players I think we need to extend that to prospects as well.

    Marincin, Gernat, Lander, Musil, even Khaira and Moroz could all be more available than they might have been under Tambellini.

    It opens up some interesting trade options for this team.

  84. RexLibris says:

    Well, game’s over. Back to shovelling.

  85. Nuckout says:

    Dammit, why couldn’t this turnaround happen 5 games ago??

    What are the odds of drawing in to 8th by the end? 90-1?

  86. Pouzar says:

    God I hope Ebs retires an Oiler. Never understand why he is in every single trade proposal Oiler fans throw out.

  87. Numenius says:

    Great game. Some lapses here and there and an untimely penalty by Nick Schultz in the 3rd, but well done overall.

    The Florida announcers were hoping for a 3rd period like last time when the Panthers came back, but nope, not this time. This is a different team.

  88. Kitchener says:

    Chris,

    Only if they keep the moustaches.

  89. jp says:

    Kitchener:

    What I like about Yak’s recent “revival” is the passes.Yeah, he has a good shot, but it’s his vision & quick passing that kills opponents.At least, in the OHL.

    Agreed. But my favorite part is he’s backchecking like a demon. I guess Eakins got the memo, er, or, ahh… Anyway, everyone seems much happier now, which is great.

  90. G Money says:

    Yak first guy back to give Dubie high fives. Love that kid.

    Another year and the Nuge might be ready to start shaving.

    .960 sv % for Dubie.

  91. VanOil says:

    RexLibris,

    As a long time Matthias booster I would like to point out he was way cheaper last February when Dithers did nothing during our month with out Centers escapade and then traded for the wrong Panther. But yes Mattias is a big Center/Left winger with off the cart compete levels. He scored the goal of the year last year http://youtu.be/06_yLWdWXlE

  92. Numenius says:

    VanOil:
    RexLibris,

    As a long time Matthias booster I would like to point out he was way cheaper last February when Dithers did nothing during our month with out Centers escapade and then traded for the wrong Panther. But yes Mattias is a big Center/Left winger with off the cart compete levels. He scored the goal of the year last year http://youtu.be/06_yLWdWXlE

    I could be persuaded about this Matthias character. But where would he fit into the lineup? 4th line centre seems a little low. Maybe 3rd line RW Pisani type who can move up and down the lineup?

  93. Gerta Rauss says:

    RexLibris:
    Lowetide,
    Marincin, Gernat, Lander, Musil, even Khaira and Moroz could all be more available than they might have been under Tambellini.

    It opens up some interesting trade options for this team.

    *cough*Klefbom*cough*

  94. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Joensuu looks like he’s gained a bit of weight. Fat face… maybe he was packing it in while nursing his back…

    Bullets Over Broadway anyone?

  95. VanOil says:

    Numenius: I could be persuaded about this Matthias character. But where would he fit into the lineup? 4th line centre seems a little low. Maybe 3rd line RW Pisani type who can move up and down the lineup?

    3d line left winger that take draws for his small center (Gagner) against the beasts of the west seems about right.

  96. Gerta Rauss says:

    Numenius: I could be persuaded about this Matthias character. But where would he fit into the lineup? 4th line centre seems a little low. Maybe 3rd line RW Pisani type who can move up and down the lineup?

    Gagner to the wing and one of the other RW are traded for a D man.

    I could live with Mathias/Gordon as 2/3 C

  97. Woodguy says:

    G Money: This is what “score effects” looks like from the other side.

    This is a great game to show what score effects look like:

    Overall CF%

    Oilers 47.6%
    Panthers 52.4%

    CF% Close (close is defined as within 1 or tied in first or second, and tied in the 3rd)

    Oilers 57.9%
    Panthers 42.1%

  98. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    DD up to .89579 on the season and climbing.

  99. hunter1909 says:

    My advice is to run to the bookies and stick everything you want to gamble with on Oilers to make the playoffs.

    They still have 3/4 of the season left, provided they can keep this up(I say they can).

  100. Thinker says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Might as well move gagner if you want him at RW, he is easily the worst of hemsky, eberle, and yakupov.

  101. Logan91 says:

    They should trade that horrible Yakupov kid, hey guys?

    Would definitely open up more cap space to sign Potter to a 7 year 35M contract.

  102. Woodguy says:

    Doobie .948 in last 5 games.

    Think you have to start him vs CHI.

  103. G Money says:

    Only half-facetious question: do we still hate Eakins?

  104. Gerta Rauss says:

    Thinker,

    I agree 100% but MacT has stated publicly he won’t trade Gagner this year,and his NTC kicks in July 1, so Gagner is part of the plan, short term anyway.

  105. Thinker says:

    In other new, can we start a petition to shave eberle’s stache. It’s terrible.

  106. Racki says:

    Thinker:
    In other new, can we start a petition to shave eberle’s stache. It’s terrible.

    Nuge makes Eberle look like Magnum P.I.

  107. TeeVee says:

    Belov reminds of the overgrown tough friend when you’re a kid. I loved how after Ebs scored the EN, Belov skates over to the group and pats them all on the top of the head and looks like he’s at least a foot taller.

    Also loved after he flattened Gudbranson how he stood calmly beside him with an emotionless look on his face.

  108. Numenius says:

    hunter1909:
    My advice is to run to the bookies and stick everything you want to gamble with on Oilers to make the playoffs.

    They still have 3/4 of the season left, provided they can keep this up(I say they can).

    Who are you and what have you done with Hunter?

  109. jp says:

    VanOil:
    RexLibris,

    As a long time Matthias booster I would like to point out he was way cheaper last February when Dithers did nothing during our month with out Centers escapade and then traded for the wrong Panther. But yes Mattias is a big Center/Left winger with off the cart compete levels. He scored the goal of the year last year http://youtu.be/06_yLWdWXlE

    Off the cart compete levels. I like it!

    VanOil: 3d line left winger that take draws for his small center (Gagner) against the beasts of the west seems about right.

    Yeah, there’d certainly be a spot for him on the 3rd line. He’s no FO virtuoso though – 40.2% this year and 44.1% last. Looks like he’s no better than Gagner in that regard.

  110. Woodguy says:

    G Money:
    Only half-facetious question: do we still hate Eakins?

    Smart people never did.

  111. Caramel Obvious says:

    Woodguy: This is a great game to show what score effects look like:

    Overall CF%

    Oilers 47.6%
    Panthers 52.4%

    CF% Close (close is defined as within 1 or tied in first or second, and tied in the 3rd)

    Oilers 57.9%
    Panthers 42.1%

    It’s also a great game to show why Fenwick or simply shots is better than Corsi.

    Oiler Corsi %:48
    Fenwick: 53
    Shots: 61

    Which do you think is more representative of what really happened?

  112. Numenius says:

    VanOil: 3d line left winger that take draws for his small center (Gagner) against the beasts of the west seems about right.

    Yeah, I should have said LW. Thought he was a right handed shot at first. 3rd line up or down as needed makes sense.

    If his faceoffs aren’t so good, as per JP, there’d be no rush to make him a C. He also has less offence than Gagner, so putting him at 2C would be pushing it.

  113. Caramel Obvious says:

    Will Acton is not a good penalty killer. So what does he do exactly?

    I’ve been a big Eakins supporter but the fourth line remains a serious blind spot. I’m willing to accept it between games because I like everything else but watching Acton flail around on the penalty kill of a reasonably close game is painful.

  114. VanOil says:

    Caramel Obvious: It’s also a great game to show why Fenwick or simply shots is better than Corsi.

    Oiler Corsi %:48
    Fenwick: 53
    Shots: 61

    Which do you think is more representative of what really happened?

    Also a great game to suggest shot stats are informative but do not tell the whole story. According to extraskater Yak had 0 shots, 0 missed shots, 0 blocked shots. But I thought he had an OK game and given his ice time so did his coach. Man, I wish he would shoot more.

  115. spoiler says:

    Numenius: Who are you and what have you done with Hunter?

    That is definitely Hunter. Through and through.

  116. Numenius says:

    In case anyone was still wondering if the Western Conference is tougher than the East, the 8th place team in the West (i.e. team with the last playoff spot) has more points (LA with 31) than the 1st place team in the East (Boston with 30).

    Ho Li Fuk.

  117. spoiler says:

    VanOil: Also a great game to suggest shot stats are informative but do not tell the whole story. According to extraskater Yak had 0 shots, 0 missed shots, 0 blocked shots. But I thought he had an OK game and given his ice time so did his coach. Man, I wish he would shoot more.

    Agreed. Yak was doing the hard work retrieving the puck tonight, and the flow of play was going through Gagner in front instead. Which is why it’s important to use the Corsi numbers we have available and not individual shot totals. The work will show up.

  118. "Steve Smith" says:

    VanOil: Also a great game to suggest shot stats are informative but do not tell the whole story. According to extraskater Yak had 0 shots, 0 missed shots, 0 blocked shots. But I thought he had an OK game and given his ice time so did his coach. Man, I wish he would shoot more.

    True, but most statheads emphasize a team’s shots (for and against) while the player is on the ice, not an individual player’s shots.

    To now ignore what I just said, David Perron had nine shots. Nine. Jesus. Forgive me, Finnish Hockey Gords, but I really don’t miss Pajaarvi at all at this point.

    Finally, the Falmes now have a worse goal differential in 22 games than the Oilers have in 24. This is a bottom tier team, but it’s not the worst team in the west.

    Edit: I see that Spoiler beat me to my first point. But he didn’t immediately disregard it as effectively as I did, so I’m calling this a Steve Smith win.

  119. MrDooman says:

    So, since we traded Smid. Calgary got worse, we got better?

  120. VanOil says:

    "Steve Smith": True, but most statheads emphasize a team’s shots (for and against) while the player is on the ice, not an individual player’s shots.

    To now ignore what I just said, David Perron had nine shots.Nine.Jesus.Forgive me, Finnish Hockey Gords, but I really don’t miss Pajaarvi at all at this point.

    Finally, the Falmes now have a worse goal differential in 22 games than the Oilers have in 24.This is a bottom tier team, but it’s not the worst team in the west.

    Edit: I see that Spoiler beat me to my first point.But he didn’t immediately disregard it as effectively as I did, so I’m calling this a Steve Smith win.

    Agreed. But can we also agree to ask those Finnish deities to make Yak should shoot more.

  121. Hammers says:

    Well Lt your last 3 articles .J.schultz ; Perron & Gordon . Time to give some time to Belov and Ference . .Anyone out there who doesn’t realize McT improved this team must have his head up his ass . Just hoping he finds another 4 players in the next 6 months like the ones he added in the last 6 months . He needs to sign Belov ASAP as well as J . Schultz . We need to add not subtract .Give this team a top 2 “D” and another winger for Smyth’s replacement and a real 4th line center and we will be on our way .

  122. spoiler says:

    I wish we were playing Buffalo next. We have played three pretty bad teams and can’t rely too heavily on this streak being a turning point. Still the doctor couldn’t have ordered a better cure than these three teams… therapy for what ails them.

    There has been a change to their approach. Sure they’ve been banging the crease, have the powerplay In a good flow, finally put the kids together, are taking more shots, and getting more second and third shots. Doobie has rediscovered his game…

    But what has been striking to me since about the middle of the Flames game, onwards, is the amount of puck support they’re giving to each other. By my eye, there has been way fewer long passes… The forwards are coming back to give the D a short pass option, they’re often proceeding up the ice with linemates again giving good easy options. This means better decisions with the puck, because there are better options. Better puck management.

    I’ve seen the wingers come down behind the goal line more often, to make it easier on the Dman digging the puck off an opponent behind the net. Rather than waiting half way up, ready at any minute to bolt the friggin zone. Followed by a cross ice pass to the other blue line that’s picked off because a nine year old could see it coming.

    That kind of crap seems to be mostly gone now. It will be interesting to see how they do against a team that can really battle, like the Hawks, but if they can at least maintain their commitment to supporting the puck and their teammates, they should suck a lot less.

  123. "Steve Smith" says:

    VanOil: Agreed. But can we also agree to ask those Finnish deities to make Yak should shoot more.

    I believe you’re thinking of the Finish Deities.

  124. Woodguy says:

    spoiler:
    I wish we were playing Buffalo next.We have played three pretty bad teams and can’t rely too heavily on this streak being a turning point.Still the doctor couldn’t have ordered a better cure than these three teams…therapy for what ails them.

    There has been a change to their approach. Sure they’ve been banging the crease, have the powerplay In a good flow, finally put the kids together, are taking more shots, and getting more second and third shots. Doobie has rediscovered his game…

    But what has been striking to me since about the middle of the Flames game, onwards, is the amount of puck support they’re giving to each other. By my eye, there has been way fewer long passes… The forwards are coming back to give the D a short pass option, they’re often proceeding up the ice with linemates again giving good easy options. This means better decisions with the puck, because there are better options.Better puck management.

    I’ve seen the wingers come down behind the goal line more often, to make it easier on the Dman digging the puck off an opponent behind the net. Rather than waiting half way up, ready at any minute to bolt the friggin zone.Followed by a cross ice pass to the other blue line that’s picked off because a nine year old could see it coming.

    That kind of crap seems to be mostly gone now.It will be interesting to see how they do against a team that can really battle, like the Hawks, but if they can at least maintain their commitment to supporting the puck and their teammates, they should suck a lot less.

    Nailed it.

    A the forwards don’t seem to fly the zone nearly as often.

    Supported exits with 2-3 passes in the dzone were rare, but in the last 2.33 games has been more the norm.

    Its like they finally get that offence flows from defence.

    Pretty exciting if this talented group finally gets that.

  125. sliderule says:

    With a defence featuring Schulz ,Schultz ,Ference and occasionally Larson we will continue to get killed on the cycle
    In the third the panthers were playing keep away and Schultzs couldn’t do anything but tackle them to try to break it up.
    Meanwhile down on the farm we have Nelson healthy scratching Klefbom and Marinicin two of our bigger prospects and giving premium ice time To Fedun another small defenceman..

  126. Ducey says:

    sliderule:
    With a defence featuring Schulz ,Schultz ,Ference and occasionally Larson we will continue to get killed on the cycle
    In the third the pantherswere playing keep away and Schultzs couldn’t do anything but tackle them to try to break it up.
    Meanwhile down on the farm we have Nelson healthy scratching Klefbom and Marinicintwo of our bigger prospects and giving premium ice time To Fedun another small defenceman..

    You mean Tayor Fedun, the guy that went 1G 2A +2 with 7 shots last night? (Marincin played too).

    Nice win by OKC last night, 6-1. Brossiot had a nice start – stopped 35 of 36. Ewanyk and Lander each with a pair of goals. Showed some grit too. 54 PIM for the team. Heck, there was even a Curtis Hamilton sighting.

  127. Lowetide says:

    AHL coaching staffs do scratch players for poor performance, but it’s important to remember that they also HS them because of the rotation system (when they have too many D they usually rotate the HS, with an eye to playing ‘ahl veterans’ as designated under the rules).

  128. sliderule says:

    Ducey,

    That’s the guy.Like I said getting premium time.

    It wasn’t Marcinins turn to sit but he has sat which doesn’t make sense from a development point .

    Smaller D can handle AHL forwards but Fedun and Larsen get manhandled at Nhl level.

    Are we developing in ok city or is Nelson looking for a job?

  129. godot10 says:

    sliderule:
    Ducey,

    That’s the guy.Like I said getting premium time.

    It wasn’t Marcinins turn to sit but he has satwhich doesn’t make sense from a development point .

    SmallerD can handle AHL forwards but Fedun and Larsen get manhandledat Nhl level.

    Are we developing in ok city or is Nelson looking for a job?

    How many useful players did Springfield produce?

    Nelson has produced:

    Petry
    Schultz
    Paajarvi
    Arcobello
    McDonald

    on the verge
    Fedun
    Lander
    Pitlick
    Hartikainen
    Omark
    Rajala

    on normal progression
    Marincin

  130. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Lowetide: Well, if this season goes according to script the Oilers will now give up 28 unanswered goals.

    This made me laugh. Win one, lose two has been Oilers pattern for years, but these extreme streaks of goals for/against have never been quite as bizarre as this season. How the hell does The Worst Goal Differential Team In The League score 14 straight?

  131. sliderule says:

    godot10,

    Actually Springfield produced quite a few with over 100 games played in nhl.
    Peckham ,Dubnyk,Schremp,Reddox,Pouliot,,JFJ, and even Bodie.

    Petry and McDonald both played some in Springfield.

    Ebs played in playoffs and was given premium time and it helped his transition to nhl.

    I just don’t see the same push for our prospects from Nelson

  132. spoiler says:

    Woodguy: spoiler:
    I wish we were playing Buffalo next.We have played three pretty bad teams and can’t rely too heavily on this streak being a turning point.Still the doctor couldn’t have ordered a better cure than these three teams…therapy for what ails them.
    There has been a change to their approach. Sure they’ve been banging the crease, have the powerplay In a good flow, finally put the kids together, are taking more shots, and getting more second and third shots. Doobie has rediscovered his game…
    But what has been striking to me since about the middle of the Flames game, onwards, is the amount of puck support they’re giving to each other. By my eye, there has been way fewer long passes… The forwards are coming back to give the D a short pass option, they’re often proceeding up the ice with linemates again giving good easy options. This means better decisions with the puck, because there are better options.Better puck management.
    I’ve seen the wingers come down behind the goal line more often, to make it easier on the Dman digging the puck off an opponent behind the net. Rather than waiting half way up, ready at any minute to bolt the friggin zone.Followed by a cross ice pass to the other blue line that’s picked off because a nine year old could see it coming.
    That kind of crap seems to be mostly gone now.It will be interesting to see how they do against a team that can really battle, like the Hawks, but if they can at least maintain their commitment to supporting the puck and their teammates, they should suck a lot less.

    Nailed it.

    A the forwards don’t seem to fly the zone nearly as often.

    Supported exits with 2-3 passes in the dzone were rare, but in the last 2.33 games has been more the norm.

    Its like they finally get that offence flows from defence.
    Pretty exciting if this talented group finally gets that.

    Thanks Woodguy. I have spent time more closely watching these last three games, rather than posting somewhat humourous in-game epigrams here, and I wanted to comment on that and see if others were seeing the same things. It’s impossible to have good puck management without good options available. During the first twenty games, we rarely had good options available.

    I’m wondering if average pass length is another one of those metrics we wish we had, like the Battlestat.

    The number of ten foot passes, especially on the Oiler side of centre ice, seems to have blossomed.

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