PERRON MRI, LARSON ETA, OILERS DOA

The hits keep on coming like top 40 radio in mid-summer. The Oilers–already missing Taylor Hall, Ryan Smyth, Jesse Joensuu and Ryan Hamilton from the portside–will very likely be without David Perron for a time. His neck isn’t getting better and he’s headed for an MRI; this doesn’t sound like something that’s going to go away overnight, and further drives the mood downward.

Not to be left out, the blueline also has a problem–with only 6 defenders in camp Justin Schultz has come up with an injury (Adam’s rib) and the team has recalled Phil Larsen. He’s part of the return for Shawn Horcoff and may make his Oiler debut against Detroit tomorrow night.

Healthy Oilers have been instructed to “just sit there–don’t do one damn thing” until game time tomorrow.

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  1. Canadas Jamaican says:

    Still no Omark call-up?

  2. stevezie says:

    And if I laugh at any mortal thing, ‘Tis that I may not weep.

  3. Lowetide says:

    Canadas Jamaican:
    Still no Omark call-up?

    I don’t think he’s made his way out of the panic room.

  4. Gret99zky says:

    Somebody out there has a full collection of Oiler voodoo dolls, a loaded pincushion, and a shitload of malice.

  5. Canadas Jamaican says:

    Lowetide: I don’t think he’s made his way out of the panic room.

    LOL…well put…I’m not a huge fan of the diminutive Swede…but at this point anyone with a contract and a pulse should be considered

  6. stevezie says:

    Canadas Jamaican,

    I maintain this is not the very end of the world. If Omark keeps producing like this* a call-up is inevitable. The longer it takes the more established his track record will be and, in theory, the more opportunity and responsibility he will be given. And the more in the swing of things he will be, I guess.

    *If he can’t keep producing like this the N ain’t the league for him anyway.

  7. bendelson says:

    “Healthy Oilers have been instructed to “just sit there–don’t do one damn thing” until game time tomorrow”

    And yet somehow Petry develops a pubis problem…

  8. Lowetide says:

    Marco Roy scored in the first period of his first game. I’m delighted.

  9. D says:

    All teams get injured. Some teams have the depth to deal with injuries, others don’t. The Oilers don’t fit in either category because there is no evidence that they are a team.

  10. pboy says:

    This is reparations for the ’80s.

  11. TheOtherJohn says:

    Perron is a tough little SOB and plays with such an edge. He will be missed.

    Lots of teams missing important pieces of their team. Expect Ottawa missing Karlsson, Spezza and Anderson last year for a huge chunk of shortened season and they just kept winning. Pittsburgh missed Crosby & Letang for 25% of last season and Malkin for 33%. Forgot, it’s only Oiler injuries that count.

  12. Jon K says:

    The Hockey Gods are testing the Oilers as God tested Job. The good news? It ends. The bad news? Not soon.

    Though to be fair, there is other goods news: I live within walking distance of several liquor stores.

  13. Jon K says:

    D:
    All teams get injured.Some teams have the depth to deal with injuries, others don’t.The Oilers don’t fit in either category because there is no evidence that they are a team.

    Show me a team that has the depth to deal with injuries to five (!!!) LWers. This season is quickly becoming silly.

  14. godot10 says:

    Omark doesn’t care. He came back to because he is a UFA next summer. He will get a better contract if he has been playing in North America, even if it is in the AHL.

    OKC winters are warmer. And Todd Nelson isn’t a dick! -)

  15. Hammers says:

    TheOtherJohn:
    Perron is a tough little SOB and plays with such an edge. He will be missed.

    Lots of teams missing important pieces of their team. Expect Ottawa missing Karlsson, Spezza and Anderson last year for a huge chunk of shortened season and they just kept winning. Pittsburgh missed Crosby & Letang for 25% of last season and Malkin for 33%. Forgot, it’s only Oiler injuries that count.

    One difference is first it was centers we lost but now 4 wingers who play the same side ( Don’t count Hamilton ) . Being an Oiler fan can be exhausting . It is what it is so they must deal with it .

  16. godot10 says:

    The most amazing thing is that Paajarvi got injured first! -). Exactly, how could that happen.

  17. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    If the Oilers take what’s his doodle out of LA (Ellerby), I expect a four-page item from Matheson. He must be breathless right now.

    Carrying this forward:

    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/11/01/would-oilers-be-interested-in-la-defenceman-keaton-ellerby-off-waivers/

    The last item is interesting… Not Tyutin, but Nikitin?

    Stauffer said the same thing the other day:

    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/10/30/oilers-insider-bob-stauffer-weighs-in-on-dallas-eakins-nail-yakupov-ales-hemsky-andrew-ference-and-more/

    Did he play opposite Belov in the World’s last year? And they would certainly know each other from Avangard.

    http://www.capgeek.com/player/1794

    27 and a UFA. What does that take?

  18. Woodguy says:

    D:
    All teams get injured.Some teams have the depth to deal with injuries, others don’t.The Oilers don’t fit in either category because there is no evidence that they are a team.

    Show me a team with the depth on LW to over come all 4 starting LW from game one being injured.

    None.

    How much more?

    None more.

    None more black.

  19. Woodguy says:

    pboy:
    This is reparations for the ’80s.

    What do we need to sacrifice for Gord to be appeased?

  20. Woodguy says:

    Jon K: Show me a team that has the depth to deal with injuries to five (!!!) LWers. This season is quickly becoming silly.

    Didn’t see you post this Jon.

    Sorry for the repeat.

  21. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    Marco Roy scored in the first period of his first game. I’m delighted.

    Wasn’t he invited to the SS before he’d even played a game?

    yes, yes, he had:

    http://www.chl.ca/article/qmjhl-announces-2013-subway-super-series-roster

  22. TheOtherJohn says:

    Hammers: One difference is first it was centers we lost but now 4 wingers who play the same side ( Don’t count Hamilton ) . Being an Oiler fan can be exhausting . It is what it is so they must deal with it .

    Come on. Pittsburgh lost their best 2 centers for 30% of last season and their 25 minute a night D quarterback for a 1/4 of the season and made the playoffs. Ottawa lost their #1C for bulk of season, their 28 minute a night D man and their #1 goalie …. Playoffs.

    In Edmonton it joins long road trips/travel along with luck as reason why we are struggling

  23. Woodguy says:

    Don’t know where the Ellerby stuff went, but despite Matheson and Spector urging with every fiber of their being, MacT isn’t claiming him.

    They have 4 better than him in OKC let alone the Oilers.

    Jon Willis (who is in OKC and reporting on their home games), said with Grebs and Potter down the Baron’s 3rd pairing could match up with most AHL 1st pairings.

  24. Dead Cat Bounce says:

    Woodguy: What do we need to sacrifice for Gord to be appeased?

    Kevin Lowe.

  25. D says:

    Jon K,

    Woodguy,

    No doubt that the Oil has been decimated on LW. But a few teams that made the playoffs last year had more man games lost to injuries than the Oilers.

    The Los Angeles Kings have a bit of depth teamwide and could lose significant depth on the LW and survive. For the Kings, losing that depth on RW is a whole different ballgame though.

  26. art vandelay says:

    Somebody out there has a full collection of Oiler voodoo dolls, a loaded pincushion, and a shitload of malice.

    Guilty as charged.

  27. cabbiesmacker says:

    pboy:
    This is reparations for the ’80s.

    Which does not explain Montreals reparations for the 70′s.

  28. cabbiesmacker says:

    Jon K: Show me a team that has the depth to deal with injuries to five (!!!) LWers. This season is quickly becoming silly.

    You meant 2.5 “actual” LW’s didn’t you? I see Taylor Hall and David Perron and…..well ok Smytty’s here and there…but after that? A guy that showed well in ONE NHL game this year and a huge MEH?

    Oilers have zero depth beyond their NHL game day 1 starting lineup.

    Excellent management.

    Smarter than all the rest.

    Bold.

  29. cabbiesmacker says:

    godot10:

    OKC winters are warmer.And Todd Nelson isn’t a dick! -)

    Toddy needs to brush up on his Oiler history and tradition. Then and only then will he be considered worthy of standing behind their NHL bench.

    Bucky and Owngoal got it down pat. Acton’s here because he’s the only asst. they could find that could make Lowe look follically luxuriant.

  30. Woodguy says:

    art vandelay:
    Somebody out there has a full collection of Oiler voodoo dolls, a loaded pincushion, and a shitload of malice.

    Guilty as charged.

    I love that you’re posting more often.

    You tend to use new material when you post more often.

    It’s refreshing.

  31. VanOil says:

    I have got through reading tonight’s blog post/injury report by listening to an Album that NME recently rated as the greatest of all time. The Smiths The Queen is dead I think they may be using fancy stats to overate it or its just riding impossibly high PDO #s but this track seemed relevant:

    The Smiths – I Know It’s Over ~ http://youtu.be/5sQPZ9dD9v8

    Great new Marco is back playing and producing, at least until his next injury.

  32. VanOil says:

    cabbiesmacker: Toddy needs to brush up on his
    Bucky and Owngoal

    Bucky and Owngoal need there own under ground comic book series. It could have its plots ripped from the headlines and mathematical in-jokes galore. It would be very Dark Humor indeed.

  33. bendelson says:

    cabbiesmacker,

    Just curious…

    Has Owngoal been Owngoal since the owngoal or has Steve Smith out Steve Smith’d Steve Smith – I mean Owngoal?

  34. cabbiesmacker says:

    VanOil: Bucky and Owngoal need there own under ground comic book series. It could have its plots ripped from the headlines and mathematical in-jokes galore. It would be very Dark Humor indeed.

    Kevin Smith could probably help there and the poor bastards an Oiler fan so voila.

    What superpowers would those two have though?

    Bucky – the ability to chew down trees? Save big $$ on Management swizzlesticks and provide low cost splints for LW’ers

    Owngoal – the ability to do things from behind? Pooches not Benches

    As a Duo – the power to render blueliners impotent and insure AHL’ers stay AHL’ers

  35. Lowetide says:

    Roy now 1-1-2 in his season debut. No score after 1 in OKC, Olivier Roy had a nice period according to JW.

  36. cabbiesmacker says:

    bendelson:
    cabbiesmacker,

    Just curious…

    Has Owngoal been Owngoal since the owngoal or has Steve Smith out Steve Smith’d Steve Smith – I mean Owngoal?

    The real Steve Smith is the LT Owngoal. Or is it one goal? I forget.

    But I bet Owngoal doesn’t mean what Steve Smith thinks it means.

  37. Lowetide says:

    Roy now 1-2-3.

  38. cabbiesmacker says:

    VanOil: Bucky and Owngoal need there own under ground comic book series. It could have its plots ripped from the headlines and mathematical in-jokes galore. It would be very Dark Humor indeed.

    I see them in a dim room, halo lit lit by one small candle while Eakins voice crackles through an old RCA Victor tube radio. P
    HUddles close and poring over swarm system bibles with afghans spread across their laps and feet snug in burgundy leather slippers with the sheepskin lining like my grandfather wore. Eating imported scones and quaffing dark tea. High fiving and polishing one anothers foreheads as they make one brilliant realization after another. Now and then the sound of “you remember when Gretz…?” breaks the silence.

  39. cabbiesmacker says:

    6- 0 Washington over Philly in the second. Something plus something for Wayne Simmonds?

  40. Lowetide says:

    Roy now 1-3-4.

  41. DeadmanWaking says:

    How many teams even have a player they wouldn’t trade for 60 games of Sid and three rounds of the playoffs?

    Gebus, if your mother is Dolly Parton and your warmth cocoon has its own micro-climate, she could feed you with one … uh … I mean if you were a blind puppy in there, you’d believe you were third on the depth chart after twins and one day when you were six years old you’d clamber up onto a kitchen chair to gaze fondly into your mother’s eyes and innocently ask, “what happened to my older brother and sister?” and Dolly would go “sweet child, wherever did you get that idea?”

  42. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    Roy now 1-3-4.

    Lordy!

  43. striatic says:

    Omark hurt in OKC.

    BWAHAHAHAHA-sob.

  44. striatic says:

    cabbiesmacker:
    6- 0 Washington over Philly in the second. Something plus something for Wayne Simmonds?

    That is a seriously good idea, buying low on Simmonds.

    Problem is, I don’t think the Oilers have anybody PHI would want. Smid maybe? I just can’t see a deal working out, since PHI is going to want help yesterday, not picks and prospects.

  45. Andy P says:

    Good test of the depth MacT put in during the summer! But why are the injuries mostly to our really good players?

  46. TheOtherJohn says:

    MacT did not assemble depth and the draft picks that should be there 08/09/10 aren’t there. Also think small top 6 is a factor. Perron plays hard but he’s only 200 lbs

    DMW

    If you think Pitt would trade you Crosby for Hall they would not. And that is with knowing that bad concussions are forever injuries. 21 points in 13 games

  47. Woodguy says:

    Ryan Dittrick ‏@ryandittrick 3h
    #Oilers MT @40oz__ (Jackson) Houck had an incredibly slow start to the year, but he’s scored 5G 4A in the past 5 games for the Giants.

    Nice to see him rebound.

    He was one of the better ones in Penticton from what I read.

  48. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Woodguy:
    Ryan Dittrick ‏@ryandittrick 3h
    #Oilers MT @40oz__ (Jackson) Houck had an incredibly slow start to the year, but he’s scored 5G 4A in the past 5 games for the Giants.

    Nice to see him rebound.

    He was one of the better ones in Penticton from what I read.

    Good.

    IIRC, one of the question marks surrounding the player was the Giants… aren’t they terrible to middling or something?

  49. FastOil says:

    The narrative on size is weird. Same everywhere stats oriented. I was flayed back in the day by bloggers (not LT), for saying the Oilers need to be bigger, that call for the same thing now. Boo.

    A 200 lb player is not small if it is true. Unless he’s really tall. 6′ 200 lbs is a substantial human being. The problem is really small players and how much stronger the opponent is. If you don’t understand this you are likely smaller as a person I am sure.

    I don’t care anymore about how big anyone is. I care about what – excuse the crudity – what swings between their legs. Being smaller and substantially weaker can be made up for with high quality play, fight, attitude and sacrifice. However, without those things it is not worth it to employ an undersized player that isn’t an insane offensive threat. Not good, insane. More than JS. Off the hook.

    There is a lot of comfort zone I would abandon for one million US. Nice to see the light go on for Ryan Jones. We’ll see how bright that light burns.

  50. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Good to see the refs upholding the gold standard:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/flyers-capitals-engage-linebrawl-featuring-ray-emery-vs-015001655–nhl.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    How is that ref that lets Emery man-handle and un-willing Holtby not fired an hour ago?

    How many of you think the average Oiler fan would prefer the Oilers were the Flyers over the Caps in this scenario?

  51. jp says:

    striatic:
    Omark hurt in OKC.

    BWAHAHAHAHA-sob.

    Seriously?! Wow. This is really impressive. Not that Omark is the savior or anything, but the guy has shit luck. That’s 2 Oilers seasons (for him) in a row where he was producing and looking like a top call up option, then gets injured. I feel a little bad for him.

  52. Gerta Rauss says:

    You have to laugh if you’re a fan of this team-if you take it too seriously you won’t sleep at night.

    Justin Schultz has come up with an injury (Adam’s rib)

    A M*A*S*H reference LT?

    One of my favorite episodes.. You sent all the way to Chicago for ribs,and NO coleslaw?

  53. Big Oil Truck says:

    TheOtherJohn,

    No disrespect, but those 2 teams played in Eastern Conference
    and the Oilers are not that lucky. See- record eastern vs western conference.
    And Oilack depth.

  54. sliderule says:

    Oliver Roy with 15 saves on 21 shots is that not 70 percent save percentage.

    I don’t know who has been picking our goalie prospects but we need a shakeup .

  55. Lowetide says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    You have to laugh if you’re a fan of this team-if you take it too seriously you won’t sleep at night.

    Justin Schultz has come up with an injury (Adam’s rib)

    A M*A*S*H reference LT?

    One of my favorite episodes.. You sent all the way to Chicago for ribs,and NO coleslaw?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KIsbOYj97M

  56. stevezie says:

    striatic,

    I keep telling you guys, Arcobello and Marincin for Simmonds and a pick makes a lot of sense for both teams. I think. If in ten games they both still two forwards have the same ppg they have now I’m withdrawing the offer.

  57. TheOtherJohn says:

    Big Oil Truck:
    TheOtherJohn,

    No disrespect, but those 2 teams played in Eastern Conference
    and the Oilers are not that lucky. See- record eastern vs western conference.
    And Oilack depth.

    Big Oil Truck:
    TheOtherJohn,

    No disrespect, but those 2 teams played in Eastern Conference
    and the Oilers are not that lucky. See- record eastern vs western conference.
    And Oilack depth.

    None taken. The Oilers have played 3 teams in the Western Conference: Phx, VCR, LAK 2 of whom greatly outshot us (Corsi) and we have been pummeled by the EC. So which is it? Terrible conference? And yet Ottawa outplayed and out shot us when we played them. And Pitt played about 25 minutes against us and won

  58. TheOtherJohn says:

    The narrative on size is really really simple: A good big man beats a good small man.

    If you want to put it in context: look at the size of the Canadian Olympic team in 2012. A roster full of large players. Not Coke machines. Big bodies that can play.

  59. Lowetide says:

    Jackson Houck scored again tonight, 18, 8-5-13

  60. wuthering says:

    Does Perron’s neck injury have anything to do with Matt Greene’s throat punch? If so, that was one impressive hamfist to the jugular. Good thing there are no penalties for that action; nor anything that Willie Mitchell does every shift.

  61. Henry says:

    stevezie:
    striatic,

    I keep telling you guys, Arcobello and Marincin for Simmonds and a pick makes a lot of sense for both teams. I think. If in ten games they both still two forwards have the same ppg they have now I’m withdrawing the offer.

    Do you know the terms on Wayne’s NTC? It seems like everyone likes him and so do I. But why would he want to come here if he can control his destiny?

  62. Henry says:

    striatic:
    Omark hurt in OKC.

    BWAHAHAHAHA-sob.

    Is this serious?
    Otherwise they have to bring him up.

  63. Hammers says:

    TheOtherJohn: Come on. Pittsburgh lost their best 2 centers for 30% of last season and their 25 minute a night D quarterback for a 1/4 of the season and made the playoffs.Ottawa lost their #1C for bulk of season, their 28 minute a night D man and their #1 goalie …. Playoffs.

    In Edmonton it joins long road trips/travel along with luck as reason why we are struggling

    Lets not include luck in the equation . Injuries are part of hockey & all sports but it is odd when you loose the same position type of players . It seems over the last 5 years the Oil has had an abnormal batch of injuries but not the true depth to deal with it . Hell we may not dress the best lineup without any injuries . Debateable question I know . Like it or not you must admit we have started this season on an unusual type and amount of injuries to key players .

  64. Gret99zky says:

    It’s a conspiracy, man.

    No playoffs until the new rink is ready.

    Also, tinfoil hats 20% off until the full roster is healthy.

  65. G Money says:

    - Perron, eh? I thought the Gords would take Eberle next, but I guess Perron/Omark is an equally vicious nut punch

    - Anyone read this article on the swarm? (http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/11/01/dallas-eakins-swarm-defence/). Suggests that the swarm has been used – effectively – by Nelson in OKC for the last three years. Given the players unfamiliarity with it, it doesn’t seem likely it’s true. The timing of the story also seems suspicious. Where’s my tinfoil hat?

  66. G Money says:

    Schultz for Larsen might actually be a blessing.

    Therefore: Petry is toast.

  67. Ribs says:

    G Money,

    I just wish we had a decent example of this system working somewhere in the NHL. You can feast on weaker players in the AHL, but does it work in the big leagues? So far I’m not convinced.

    “The next step is for teams to develop systems on how to break the swarm.”

    Well, win a puck battle in your feet and there’s guys waiting in the slot to score a goal. Not really all that difficult.

    I’ve seen lately that they’ve been trying to avoid the swarm (doubling up along the wall) if possible. The defencemen are getting rid of the puck as soon as they retrieve it in the corner and are creating a completely new wave of chaos (Hi Petry!).

    It sure feels like it’s the hardest way possible to move this team along. Why can’t they play the same game everyone else is playing and have the supernovas outperform the other teams? Isn’t that what we’ve suffered so long for to see?

    As always, I hope for the best…

  68. bookje says:

    G Money,

    I don’t think Nelson is inclined to do anything to defend the guy the Oilers hired instead of him. The swarm is a reasonably common defensive approach, just not the most common approach. Stop eating tin foil!

  69. bookje says:

    So, is this the same situation as last year when Tambellini failed to do something to fill the injury related gap at centre? Does MacT need to trade a third round pick for a mid level Left Winger?

  70. Woodguy says:

    bookje:
    So, is this the same situation as last year when Tambellini failed to do something to fill the injury related gap at centre? Does MacT need to trade a third round pick for a mid level Left Winger?

    No.

    Hall, Smyth and Joensuu should all be back before the end of the 4 game road trip, so its short term uber pain.

  71. Woodguy says:

    G Money,

    Given the players unfamiliarity with it, it doesn’t seem likely it’s true

    Only Dman on the roster who played for Nelson is J.Shultz and that was for about 40 games as a rookie.

  72. Woodguy says:

    wuthering:
    Does Perron’s neck injury have anything to do with Matt Greene’s throat punch?If so, that was one impressive hamfist to the jugular.Good thing there are no penalties for that action; nor anything that Willie Mitchell does every shift.

    I would think that it has everything to do with Greene’s punch.

  73. godot10 says:

    Woodguy:
    G Money,

    Given the players unfamiliarity with it, it doesn’t seem likely it’s true

    Only Dman on the roster who played for Nelson is J.Shultz and that was for about 40 games as a rookie.

    Jeff Petry played 41 games for Todd Nelson.

  74. theres oil in virginia says:

    G Money: Suggests that the swarm has been used – effectively – by Nelson in OKC for the last three years.

    godot10: Jeff Petry played 41 games for Todd Nelson.

    That’s what I was thinking too, but I think they’re referring to the last three years when the swarm may have been in use in OKC.

  75. PerryK says:

    Woodguy:
    Don’t know where the Ellerby stuff went, but despite Matheson and Spector urging with every fiber of their being, MacT isn’t claiming him.

    They have 4 better than him in OKC let alone the Oilers.

    Jon Willis (who is in OKC and reporting on their home games), said with Grebs and Potter down the Baron’s 3rd pairing could match up with most AHL 1st pairings.

    From what I have seen of Ellerby (3 games last year), he is very impressive. WG, I am certain that we do not have anyone better in OKC. He has good size, defensive chops and moves the puck very well. Also, at this point in his career, he is cheap. We can always flush him without any real impact. Who knows if he works out, we can move both Nultz and Smid.

  76. godot10 says:

    theres oil in virginia:
    That’s what I was thinking too, but I think they’re referring to the last three years when the swarm may have been in use in OKC.

    The Barons have only been in OKC for three years (and a month).

    Petry was there for about half of the first of those three years.

  77. theres oil in virginia says:

    godot10: The Barons have only been in OKC for three years (and a month).

    Petry was there for about half of the first of those three years.

    Yeah, that’s right! Wow, that seems like a lifetime ago.

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