SHARKS AT OILERS G21, 13-14

The MacT media meeting yesterday took the pressure off the players and re-set the season for the fanbase. We may not like it, but from the sounds of things additions will come when and if they make sense, not as a reaction to losses piling up, pressure from owner or fan. I’m not certain we can believe it 100%, but it’s also true we’re unlikely to see the team make a large, risky trade soon after MacT’s words yesterday.

SAMPLER

  • “I don’t view another first round draft choice as what we need. Whether I can get suitable value for that remains to be seen.”
  • “The blueline needs to be improved upon… Do we need a big stud defenceman? It would help immensely.”

So, there’s a trade offer sent 29 times via the wonder of the media avail. That pick as it currently stands has a great deal of value, and the Oilers can probably go to market now and get any number of guys who can help (Brian Campbell, Michael Del Zotto, Christian Ehrhoff, maybe even Braydon Coburn) but MacT suggests he’d like a player in his entry level deal.

Jared Cowen? Dougie Hamilton? Ryan Murray? Griffin Reinhart? Brendan Dillon? Dan DeKeyser? Erik Gudbranson? Jonas Brodin? Adam Larsson? Jake Gardiner? I don’t know I’m sure. However, the list isn’t a long one–an entry level defenseman with top pairing potential. It shouldn’t be too hard to track down which of these names are worthy.

THE OAKLAND SEALS

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 (L-R: Ernie Hicke, Bobby Sheehan, Reg Leach)

The San Jose Sharks have a fascinating history, one that dates back to the Oakland Seals. The Gund family had minority ownership (Mel Swig majority) at the time the club moved to Cleveland and became the Barons. Swig sold his shares to the Gunds during that period, and then the problems with the Cleveland lease and Minnesota ownership were solved when John Ziegler merged the two teams in Minnesota with the Gund men taking ownership of the team (complicated).

By about 1991, the Gunds decided they would move the North Stars back to the Bay area, but Ziegler blocked it. He did agree to grant the Gunds an expansion franchise after they sold the North Stars.

That franchise became the San Jose Sharks.

THE BIG HERTL

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Tomas Hertl was mentioned on this blog heading into the 2012 entry draft (here and here) and it looks like the Sharks have pulled a Couture (again). This kid has it all: the Bossy hands, the Shutt nose for the net and a million dollar smile. Don Cherry will hate him forever because he apparently ended Marty Biron’s NHL career (Marty would be starting in the NHL for another 15 years if Hertl hadn’t celebrated that night), but I love the kid. More youthful enthusiasm, please. More celly as the kids say.

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Barons are in action tonight, it should mark the debut of Ilyz Bryzgalov in Oilers (well, close) colors. If Bryz plays well I’d bet he gets called up tomorrow morning but this might take a little longer.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

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10 this morning on TSN 1260. Scheduled to appear:

10-1260 via text, @Lowetide on twitter.

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  1. Gerta Rauss says:

    I can’t watch this anymore.

    I’m going make some soup and watch a few things on the PVR.

  2. bookje says:

    MacT will stand by Eakins , but I don’t know if Katz will if they are blanked through tomorrow night.

  3. bookje says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    I can’t watch this anymore.

    I’m going make some soup and watch a few things on the PVR.

    Don’t go for soup!!!!

  4. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Woodguy:
    The Oilers are frogurt.

    The Frogurt is also cursed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_pqnsKWlpc

  5. Dominoiler says:

    Haha.. oilers..

  6. pboy says:

    This is like a kids soccer game, no one in the crowd cares who wins, they just want to see one home goal.

  7. fuzzy muppet says:

    It’s amazing how awesome they look when the other team stops playing! Go team!

  8. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    bookje:
    MacT will stand by Eakins , but I don’t know if Katz will if they are blanked through tomorrow night.

    C’mon now, we’ve got records to break here! Don’t jinx it.

  9. gr8one says:

    It’s just comedic now.

  10. hunter1909 says:

    I think the problem is: We’re expecting the 1971 Bruins.

  11. bookje says:

    Wow, the oilers have been all over them for the last 7 minutes. Any minute now , they are going to score (I mean the Sharks of course).

  12. Lowetide says:

    On that one goal (don’t remember), Gazdic sent a perfect pass to the San Jose guy. I mean it was beautiful. I waited a few years to see that from J-F Jacques, nice to see it finally happen. Wrong team, but still. An absolutely perfect pass from a big man.

  13. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Oilers with some push back, but SJ has put it in cruise mode. DD’s been excellent after the first 5 min.

  14. bookje says:

    Why is the AHL defense out there?

  15. Genjutsu says:

    Say what you will but they have had a very good team on their heels.

    Its not that far away is the kick in the nuts.

  16. pboy says:

    Dirty Russian

  17. Brackenburied says:

    Larryonoff was right!

  18. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Yak City!

  19. fuzzy muppet says:

    Yakupov for Mayor!

  20. Lowetide says:

    Yakupov!

  21. bookje says:

    Lazy selfish goal by the Russian. Better bench him Eakins.

  22. hunter1909 says:

    Poetic justice.

  23. Lowetide says:

    Yakupov (Gagner, Hemsky)

  24. gr8one says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: The Frogurt is also cursed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_pqnsKWlpc

    Can I go now?

  25. hunter1909 says:

    Way to go cap’n.

  26. fuzzy muppet says:

    ANd the Captain with another stellar play.

    Remind me why Eakins named him captain?

  27. TheOtherJohn says:

    What a freakin shot

  28. bookje says:

    Thecaptainandrewference!

  29. Genjutsu says:

    Yak city.

    It begins.

  30. jake70 says:

    TheOtherJohn:
    What a freakin shot

    Part of me wants Yak to hit a few goalies in the facemask, put some fear into them.

  31. hunter1909 says:

    Who’s the Grandfather from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre lookalike standing behind the Oiler bench?

  32. OilFire says:

    Woohoo, go captain Inter Ference!

    Way to play the Moreau role!

  33. bookje says:

    Ference had the best VO2 number since Moreau. Who made Moreau captain again?

  34. bookje says:

    Dubnyk is on his knees now before the pass is even made, never mind the shot.

  35. Lowetide says:

    I’m stealing this from Dellow, but the 2nd PP seems better than the 1st, no?

  36. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    bookje:
    MacT will stand by Eakins , but I don’t know if Katz will if they are blanked through tomorrow night.

    See! you jinxed it!

  37. Lowetide says:

    Jonathan Willis ‏@JonathanWillis 1m

    Ilya Bryzgalov was a little rusty, but not near as bad as the goal against totals would make him seem…

  38. OilFire says:

    It didn’t work Ference, better try to get a penalty shot call

  39. pboy says:

    Good 30 for 30 on TSN2 about John Spano the guy who tried to buy the Islanders with no money.

  40. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    So… that SJS PP is amazing. Fast, shoots from everywhere, tenacious puck retrieval. man.

  41. art vandelay says:

    Gord and Ray are laughing at you guys now. Those Corgis just aren’t adding up lately.

  42. Lowetide says:

    art vandelay:
    Gord and Ray are laughing at you guys now.

    Hi Art!

  43. gcw_rocks says:

    There is 400 comments here, so apologies if someone else has posted this, but the other factor to keep in mind is that this “paper transaction” is going to cost Arco money as he will drop to his AHL salary. Can’t imagine that sends a good message to the player when he takes the financial hit and the coach’s son does not. Can’t imagine that is going to win points with Arco’s friends on the team, which I assume would include Hall and Eberle.

    LT – missed that comment. I stand corrected, sir. Looking forward to the day you join us in the anti-MacT camp. You gotta admit, the evidence is mounting that he doesn’t know what he is doing.

    Have you heard the Cassie Campbell stuff on Hockey Night in Canada radio?

  44. hunter1909 says:

    Who would have guessed Ryan Whitney was the glue that held this team together last season?

  45. Nuckout says:

    Love the 30 for 30's. I'm pretty sure I've seen most of them. Anyone with Netflix, can hack the american version and they're mostly all there.

  46. fuzzy muppet says:

    “Yakupov needs a benchin’ ” – Dallas Eakins’ mind

  47. bookje says:

    hunter1909:
    Who would have guessed Ryan Whitney was the glue that held this team together last season?

    Shawn Horcoff?

  48. SK Oiler Fan says:

    pboy,

    Agreed, Excellent. Doesn’t make Bettman look any more competant
    Every one of those ESPN 30 for 30s are stellar.

  49. pboy says:

    Good shift

  50. Rebilled says:

    That looked like the first line!

  51. Lowetide says:

    There’s that soft boy Hemsky again.

  52. pboy says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    “Yakupov needs a benchin’ ”–Dallas Eakins’ mind

    Paddling the school canoe?

    You better believe that’s a paddling.

  53. justDOit says:

    bookje: Shawn Horcoff?

    Smid?

  54. Kitchener says:

    Decent period. When we’re flying, it’s easy to be an Oiler fan.

  55. Nuckout says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    pboy,

    Agreed, Excellent. Doesn’t make Bettman look any more competant
    Every one of those ESPN 30 for 30s are stellar.

    Just watched the one with Chris Herren the other day. It’s amazing what you don’t know about players’ personal lives while you’re watching them on TV. Just because you make a lot of money, doesn’t mean you’re invincible.

  56. Kitchener says:

    pboy,

    Related, how long until Belov drops the gloves? He had some wicked KHL vids but has kept it clean here so far. Gotta think his next contract would go up with a few fights under his belt.

  57. RMGS says:

    Lowetide:
    I’m stealing this from Dellow, but the 2nd PP seems better than the 1st, no?

    Same as last year.

  58. Lowetide says:

    Yakupov will be king some day. Will it be here?

  59. OilFire says:

    RMGS: Same as last year.

    LT stealing from Dellow?

  60. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Nope. I’m not buying it. Brodie Brazil is absurd.

    I’m calling this guy “Lester Cupcake” from now on. Seems more plausible.

  61. RMGS says:

    Nail Yakupov intermission interview: “I will try to score in third period.”

  62. Lowetide says:

    RMGS: Same as last year.

    Nuge should be the 1 PP, but he’s a lefty and so is Yakupov and Hall. How do you get them on the ice together?

  63. sliderule says:

    The oiler forwards are to my eye trying to mark a man .

    I have seen good back pressure from Nuge and Hall.

    Yaks last shift he found a man in slot and marked him hard.

    If they keep doing that we will have got something out of this mess.

  64. Brackenburied says:

    I think someone told the panel ‘Edmonton hates you so lighten the f’k up. ‘

  65. RMGS says:

    OilFire: LT stealing from Dellow?

    I tried to be subtle (I don’t want to be banned), but I’m glad you picked it up. :)

  66. alice13 says:

    83 has been making the PP hum whenever he’s been on lately. The results haven’t been there yet but just owning the puck and controlling the zone. Not looking forward to this team without him.

  67. Lowetide says:

    That’s the 20th goal of Bustukov’s career. Too bad he’ll never score 40.

  68. Lowetide says:

    OilFire: LT stealing from Dellow?

    Every chance I get. :-)

  69. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Kharia with an assist tonight and his teammate Tyler Sandhu is killing it in the last couple of games:

    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=120632

    http://www.whl.ca/schedule/show/game/65650

    http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/jrhockey-buzzing-the-net/everett-silvertips-053711780.html

    5 goals in his last two games (one of which isn’t over yet). Small Center 2014 draft.

  70. OilFire says:

    alice13:
    83 has been making the PP hum whenever he’s been on lately. The results haven’t been there yet but just owning the puck and controlling the zone.Not looking forward to this team without him.

    I think the problem with the PP is pretty obvious. Too static, no good net-front presence.

  71. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Nuckout,

    Chris Herron? that might be the only one I haven’t seen. Love those things

  72. flyfish1168 says:

    Yak ability to shot the one timer reminds me of one of my all time favorite Oilers Jari Kurri

  73. Lowetide says:

    OilFire:
    83 has been making the PP hum whenever he’s been on lately. The results haven’t been there yet but just owning the puck and controlling the zone.Not looking forward to this team without him.

    I think the problem with the PP is pretty obvious. Too static, no good net-front presence.

    I thought Joensuu was going to get a lot of time there this season, he’s averaging less than 40 seconds a game.

  74. SK Oiler Fan says:

    OilFire,

    And that’s on the coaching

  75. OilFire says:

    Lowetide: I thought Joensuu was going to get a lot of time there this season, he’s averaging less than 40 seconds a game.

    Anybody have thoughts on why he’s looked so much worse than in the preseason? Game faster mid-season?

  76. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide: I thought Joensuu was going to get a lot of time there this season, he’s averaging less than 40 seconds a game.

    I don’t know if he’s quite right yet… he looked a lot better in preseason and that first game of the season, than anything since… miles better.

    Or, maybe he was just lucky. there’s always that. because Oiiers

  77. RMGS says:

    Lowetide: Nuge should be the 1 PP, but he’s a lefty and so is Yakupov and Hall. How do you get them on the ice together?

    I say give the minutes to the unit that scores (and I don’t get why Hall’s shot is being wasted on that 1PP).

  78. elpolodiablo says:

    Lowetide,

    not if eakins is around

  79. bookje says:

    Every freaking shot over the shoulder!!

  80. bookje says:

    Thecaptainethanference!

    I shouldn’t joke about Ference. He is not the problem.

  81. pboy says:

    That’s Yak’s 2nd or 3rd good hit of the period. Luckily Samwise was there to turn the puck over.

  82. SK Oiler Fan says:

    I expected more from Ference. You really have to be careful bringing in guys from the eastern conference

  83. Lowetide says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    I expected more from Ference. You really have to be careful bringing in guys from the eastern conference

    True, but I also wonder if he’s the guy playing hurt tonight.

  84. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Yah, there’s no way 6 is 100%. Bad backs are a bitch. Too bad. thus team could use more of the original 6

  85. Brackenburied says:

    pboy:
    That’s Yak’s 2nd or 3rd good hit of the period. Luckily Samwise was there to turn the puck over.

    But he sure picks his spots where he’s gonna skate. Couple of times there he floated where he could of at least pressured with a little skating.

  86. bookje says:

    Com’n, make the call. That’s two calls that the refs missed tonight that could haves the Oilers.

  87. Lowetide says:

    Brackenburied: But he sure picks his spots where he’s gonna skate. Couple of times there he floated where he could of at least pressured with a little skating.

    He’s WAY more comfortable tonight, though. This is as close to last year as we’ve seen, and Hall-Nuge are beginning to feel it, too.

  88. pboy says:

    The Oilers have really been competing much harder since about halfway through the 2nd period.

  89. fuzzy muppet says:

    Am I going crazy or does RNH look a little bigger/thicker?

  90. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Lowetide,

    yep, could be. Even from the start of the season though he’s been no better than slightly above average on most nights.
    89 another example. No way he’s 100%.
    Every team deals with that though.
    Good for DD tonight. looking comfy now.

  91. pboy says:

    Is Gagner on the wing here?

  92. bookje says:

    What was that icing play?

  93. Lowetide says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Lowetide,

    yep, could be. Even from the start of the season though he’s been no better than slightly above average on most nights.
    89 another example. No way he’s 100%.
    Every team deals with that though.
    Good for DD tonight. looking comfy now.

    Yes, agreed. Ference certainly isn’t miles better than Smid or, frankly Nick Schultz who has been much better this season.

  94. Nuckout says:

    bookje:
    Thecaptainethanference!

    I shouldn’t joke about Ference.He is not the problem.

    No, he’s not the problem, but I wonder if going from being in the mix on a consistently winning Boston team, to Edmonton, where he’s playing top pairing minutes and named captain …. while losing every night.

    He’s not used to losing, and I think that may be weighing heavily on his play. He doesn’t have the buffer zone he had in Boston. He’s now THE man.

  95. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Man 93 doesn’t seem to have his legs yet. Just no pull away. Another injury?

  96. flyfish1168 says:

    Lowetide,

    A fire hydrant would look good playing along side Chara

  97. Brackenburied says:

    And we’re done.

  98. fuzzy muppet says:

    Well at least Yak earned it

  99. speeds says:

    Lowetide: Yes, agreed. Ference certainly isn’t miles better than Smid or, frankly Nick Schultz who has been much better this season.

    Even if he is better than Smid, who would you bet on the next 3 years? The 28-30 Smid, or the 35-37 Ference?

  100. bookje says:

    Maybe they should call those on both teams!

  101. hunter1909 says:

    Don’t fuck with the Yak.

    San Jose player called for bullying.

  102. TeeVee says:

    Logan “Ratface” Couture

  103. justDOit says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Man 93 doesn’t seem to have his legs yet. Just no pull away. Another injury?

    like from a knee on knee hit?

  104. bookje says:

    Good play by the Oilers there!

  105. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    justDOit: like from a knee on knee hit?

    3 knee on knee hits?

  106. Lowetide says:

    speeds: Even if he is better than Smid, who would you bet on the next 3 years?The 28-30 Smid, or the 35-37 Ference?

    Smid for sure, no doubt about it.

  107. justDOit says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: 3 knee on knee hits?

    no, 93′s knee hit

  108. pboy says:

    Arcobello hasn’t played much less than Jones, Joensuu or Acton tonight.

  109. SK Oiler Fan says:

    speeds,

    hmm. Puts that trade into better perspective. I guess I expected a little more calmness, cycle breaking, along with better puck movement and skating with the puck.
    He’s played some 2nd unit PP in his career as well. Picked him up 2 or 3 years too late I guess

  110. Brackenburied says:

    Lowetide: Smid for sure, no doubt about it.

    Oh, now you like him!

  111. Racki says:

    Lowetide: Smid for sure, no doubt about it.

    This is obviously sarcasm.. why do you hate Smid so much?

  112. Lowetide says:

    So, Hall’s timing his entry based on the shoot in and the right D holds him up. Why is that not an interference call?

  113. fuzzy muppet says:

    pboy,

    Well you have to save them for tomorrow in a game you’re down by three.

  114. bookje says:

    Another good looking loss.

  115. bookje says:

    Lowetide:
    So, Hall’s timing his entry based on the shoot in and the right D holds him up. Why is that not an interference call?

    Everybody hates the Oilers.

  116. Lowetide says:

    Brackenburied: Oh, now you like him!

    I’m so fickle!

  117. Well Oiled and Enthusiastic says:

    Totally dominated – in every way. SJ checked out halfway through the 2nd. Their work was done.

  118. Racki says:

    “If the refs would have called this game properly, the Oilers would have won!”

    - predicatable 630 CHED post game commentary..

  119. pboy says:

    I’d love to hear Coach Stone Face explain how he’s choosing the personnel for those two PP units. I would have Smyth and Gordon be net presences respectively and Yak with Nuge.

  120. flyfish1168 says:

    Interesting coaching decision. Yak on bench for 4 minutes and fresh, yet doesn’t see time on the PP. Peron left hand shot is on instead.

  121. fuzzy muppet says:

    We’re Number one! We’re number one!

    Ooooops, the column was sorted the other way

  122. Pablo Aimar says:

    4-15-2
    When does George Burnett get fired?

  123. hunter1909 says:

    AS A MATTER OF FACT COACH EAKINS: Your the proud possessor of a 4-17 NHL hockey record.

    Mistake 1 – making that old Bruin captain. He’s crap. And makes YOU crap.

    Mistake 2 – being an uptight chicken farmer instead of a real leader of the young dudes

    Mistake 3 – Leaving the Marlies. Would they give you your old job back? If you asked?

  124. fuzzy muppet says:

    Pablo Aimar,

    Tomorrow night after they lose to the Flames

  125. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    justDOit: no, 93′s knee hit

    93′s 3 knee hits.

  126. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Not real upset with that one. I suspect low expectations likely factor in. I also suspect Kate Bierness made a recent investment in herself.

  127. fuzzy muppet says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    What we have here boys, is a failure to communicate

  128. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide: Finally, we’re in Seal land?

  129. Brackenburied says:

    Dubnyk played well. Just saying.

  130. Genjutsu says:

    Lowetide,

    But we are talking about a fitness nut with more intangibles its closer than the math I think.

  131. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    interesting… Score effects didn’t come into play in the old fenwick 5×5 graph.

    http://www.extraskater.com/game/2013-11-15-sharks-oilers

    we were just bad.

  132. Lowetide says:

    hunter1909:
    Lowetide: Finally, we’re in Seal land?

    Well, the sideburns need work….

  133. hunter1909 says:

    Genjutsu:
    Lowetide,

    But we are talking about a fitness nut with more intangibles its closer than the math I think.

    lol well when you consider that NHL hockey uses something called THE SCORE to determine outcomes, you need to use quantum physics or Lowe’s snake oil remedy, and some have trouble differentiating.

  134. dsr29 says:

    I miss Justin Schultz. Don’t care if he can’t play defence! I want offensive help from the blue.

  135. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide,

    MacT dangling that probable 1st overall pick has Oaklandish overtones.

  136. dawgtoy says:

    I miss the old days when it used to be exciting last place hockey. Now it’s just last place.

  137. Lowetide says:

    Gene Principe ‏@GenePrincipe now

    I’ve seen Taylor Hall after almost every loss. I have never seen him like I just did.The kid cares a ton but the defeats are wearing on him.

  138. hunter1909 says:

    I must admit I’m particularly enjoying one thing about the 4-17 Oilers: Remembering the look on Kevin Lowe’s face recently talking about winning.

  139. Brackenburied says:

    Bertuzzi disrespectful in the shoutout tonite.

  140. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide: I’ve seen Taylor Hall after almost every loss. I have never seen him like I just did.The kid cares a ton but the defeats are wearing on him.

    “Punch” Eakin’s vs The Big T.

  141. fuzzy muppet says:

    dawgtoy,

    FTW

    my wife remarked in the first period “why are the Oilers so boring?”

  142. Lowetide says:

    hunter1909: “Punch” Eakin’s vs The Big T.

    It kind of works, except they’re much younger and have had no success.

  143. hunter1909 says:

    HOLY SHIT BUFFALO WON TONIGHT OILERS IN 30TH LMAO

    I know. It gets boring after awhile.

  144. fuzzy muppet says:

    in all seriousness:

    Eakins is done Sunday if they lose tomorrow right????

  145. justDOit says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: 93′s 3 knee hits.

    93′s three knees? I only saw one, but I’ve missed some games.

  146. Racki says:

    Lowetide:
    Gene Principe ‏@GenePrincipe now

    I’ve seen Taylor Hall after almost every loss. I have never seen him like I just did.The kid cares a ton but the defeats are wearing on him.

    Excellent.. just what we need… to have our star player in therapy by age 22.

  147. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Good news/bad news on Arco:

    “Get a place to stay; you’re not playing SJS”

    bittersweet!

  148. Racki says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    in all seriousness:

    Eakins is done Sunday if they lose tomorrow right????

    Couple points…

    1) They’ve gone through 5 coaches in 6 years.. eventually you have to draw the line and just go with what you’ve got.

    2) Personally, I think “go with what you got” should have been what they did to start this year. No offense to Eakins.. I like him to an extent, but this team got better on paper yet somehow got way worse in most important areas.

  149. hunter1909 says:

    Does Eakin’s pipsqueak drill sergeant schtick even work in the 21st century? It’s not like these kids have to worry about eating or where they’re going to spend the rest of their lives or anything.

  150. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Eakins mentions “shot attempts”… ha!

    says we tied… and guess what, we won!

    http://www.extraskater.com/game/2013-11-15-sharks-oilers

    I don’t get how the numbers and the chart are so off… thoughts?

  151. fuzzy muppet says:

    Racki,

    I’m just wondering if that’s the morale boost they need. Besides everything the Oilers do is contradictory. They need this kind if continuity like I need a _________. The team is terrible

  152. Lowetide says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Eakins mentions “shot attempts”… ha!

    says we tied… and guess what, we won!

    http://www.extraskater.com/game/2013-11-15-sharks-oilers

    I don’t get how the numbers and the chart are so off… thoughts?

    Sometimes takes a half hour to set.

  153. striatic says:

    Team needs better defensemen and has needed them for a long time. Last time the Oilers had a solid defense corps, they were a quality team. I’d love to see what this team could accomplish with an above average top pairing backing them up. You know, like an experiment.

  154. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    justDOit: 93′s three knees? I only saw one, but I’ve missed some games.

    bee’s knees?

  155. Lowetide says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    Racki,

    I’m just wondering if that’s the morale boost they need. Besides everything the Oilers do is contradictory.They need this kind if continuity like I needa _________.The team is terrible

    Taylor Hall said it. They just need to win. Tomorrow, Calgary.

  156. Chris says:

    You know strangely the guys MacT identified as needing to be moved out seem to have helped this team play better. And our new “Captain” is basically Ethan Moreau on defense. Our new coach comes across as an asshole. Hall’s ringing endorsement of the coach was “I don’t have anything bad to say about him.” For better or worse the tinkering with this team seems to pushed it off a cliff.

  157. Lowetide says:

    Joanne Ireland ‏@jirelandEJ 27s

    In case you were wondering, Nail Yakupov’s dad was in the stands. That’s where the #Oilers winger was pointing after he had scored.

  158. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Dubs .919 tonight

  159. Racki says:

    Dallas Eakins told Arcobello to find a place to live, but he didn’t mention which city!!!

  160. Chris says:

    When do we start the Dallas Eakins death watch?

  161. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Racki:
    Dallas Eakins told Arcobello to find a place to live, but he didn’t mention which city!!!

    Spuzzum?

  162. OilClog says:

    The kids had the coach they wanted.. This is the results when you fucked with that.

    1st game I didn’t watch all year, Yakupov’s signal to the crowd was all the highlight I needed. I’ll end up following him and not the Oilers by the end of it. So who replaces Eakins?

  163. Woodguy says:

    OilClog:
    The kids had the coach they wanted.. This is the results when you fucked with that.

    1st game I didn’t watch all year, Yakupov’s signal to the crowd was all the highlight I needed. I’ll end up following him and not the Oilers by the end of it. So who replaces Eakins?

    He was pointing at his Dad.

    Lots of frustrated guys in the room.

    Good.

  164. Lowetide says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Dubs .919 tonight

    That’s a great number. Good for Dubey.

  165. Numenius says:

    Smid’s absence sure doesn’t help at all. Talk about kicking you when you’re down.

  166. commonfan14 says:

    Chris: When do we start the Dallas Eakins death watch?

    I still think this could lead to Interim Head Coach Kelly Buchberger just as easily as it could lead to MacT coming down behind the bench.

    Just imagine – the team going on a huge run with Bucky at the helm would be pretty much the funniest thing that ever happened.

    It could only happen if his first game is against the Avs so that he can spark the team by getting his ass kicked in a fight with Roy.

  167. Racki says:

    Just think, guys, we get to see Smid in the glorious red and yellow tomorrow! *blows brains out*

  168. David says:

    Horak with 2 assists. 2-1-2-3 so far.

  169. Thinker says:

    If they lose tomorrow, they probably set themselves up to be last in the west. If you have to be within seven points of the playoffs by the start of November to have a reasonable shot of making it, Then you should probably be within seven points of second last to stay out of the basement. We expected the flames to be dreadful-they are. They are still far back of being competitive. Any other year they finish last because Oilers.
    Do we get rid of someone now please Katz. Lowe has shown to support two polar opposite style of losing under mambo and MacT. I think it might be time to gut the whole thing. NO MORE OLD BOYS. Which is sad to say because I think Mess would be a good coach/GM some day. One last parting shot. There are two tiers of 80s oilers. The tier of players driving the bus, who all find themselves in the hall, and the riders with six stanley cup rings who know all about winning. I watched gretzky just as much Mr. Lowe.

  170. Hammers says:

    Who was the last team to bring back a coach they fired ?? Anybody know ? Right about now Ralph looks really good .Especially his PP & PK . The thing he lacked was X & O’s and line matching . Loose to Calgary and McT has to 1) Fire coach or 2) trade a core player for a defenceman . Example Couburn , Simmonds & Schen for Ebs , Petry & N.Schultz .

  171. Lowetide says:

    Hammers:
    Who was the last team to bring back a coach they fired ?? Anybody know ? Right about now Ralph looks really good .Especially his PP & PK . The thing he lacked was X & O’s and line matching . Loose to Calgary and McT has to 1) Fire coach or 2) trade a core player for a defenceman. Example Couburn , Simmonds & Schenfor Ebs , Petry & N.Schultz .

    Buffalo. :-)

  172. Ribs says:

    Missed the game (lucky me?). Did they do any of the cycling Eakins said they were practicing or was it track meet time again?

    Glad to hear Arco is here to stay!

    The Hall Post game interview is a good thing to hear. I just hope he wasn’t singling out Yakupov with the penalty comment.

    Why doesn’t the NHL list the penalties in the video feeds after the games? They do goals, saves and hits. Was Yak’s penalty that bad?

  173. Ribs says:

    Eakins post game “I think we were afraid to make a mistake”. No shit.

  174. TheOtherJohn says:

    As great as it is that the coaches told Arcobello to get a place to live, I would not be taking real estate advice from Dallas Eakins. 5 coaches in 6 years, GM support, yeah yeah, whatever. It really doesn’t matter. If you cannot win 2/3 against Calgary, CLB and FLa, the next real estate advice Eakins gives will be to his own agent to sell his house.

    What are the odds that Bucky survives to coach on a 6th coaching staff? 80-20? Truly astonishing. Because Oilers

  175. Racki says:

    Ribs:
    Missed the game (lucky me?). Did they do any of the cycling Eakins said they were practicing or was it track meet time again?

    Glad to hear Arco is here to stay!

    The Hall Post game interview is a good thing to hear. I just hope he wasn’t singling out Yakupov with the penalty comment.

    Why doesn’t the NHL list the penalties in the video feeds after the games? They do goals, saves and hits. Was Yak’s penalty that bad?

    Yak got good lumber on someone’s face.. accidental.. nothing to roast him over. Shit happens. There were 3 blatantly bad high sticks that game that drew blood, and only Yak’s was called (the others: one on Gordon, and one on a Shark).

    As far as cycling, the Oilers had a great cycle on a 3-on-1.. unfortunately they never stopped cycling!

  176. Ribs says:

    Racki: As far as cycling, the Oilers had a great cycle on a 3-on-1.. unfortunately they never stopped cycling!

    Why would they cycle on a 3 on 1? Nevermind, dumb question. Because Oilers. lol, thanks.

  177. Racki says:

    They actually got booed after that one.

  178. toldyaso says:

    This team had the coach it wanted last year in Krueger and they felt the knife as badly as anyone. Management quit on them at the trade deadline, double crossed their coach over the summer, and then hired some amateur they don’t like or respect. Yeah this was all going to turn out fantastically. But no worries, Smith, Bucky and Acton will work it all out for Dallas, just like the three guys before him. Ference is Moreau on defense and Smid got traded for beans because he finally couldn’t take it any more and would have publicly asked to be traded.

    The team is a complete circus and you could see it coming last summer.

  179. 719 says:

    Reading between the lines here…

    Taylor Hall said the other day that Andrew Ferrence, much like Horcoff, was a calming veteran voice in the room, he said they needed another one. Is Smyth not filling that role?

    For reference:

    Story with above paraphrased quote

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/edmonton-oilers
    /Oilers+look+build+foundation+during/9157717/story.html

    Also, if anyone needs to know who the real leader is on this team, just look at how Hall interacted with Yakupov in the warmup today. Classy move by a guy doing his best to ensure a teammate doesn’t feel alienated.

  180. DeadmanWaking says:

    Eakins was a different man in the post game tonight. He didn’t begin every second sentence with “listen”. He seemed open and engaged, and somehow less combative. Perhaps he’s moving from bargaining/depression into acceptance.

    It gave me the feeling that the other day when he said of Yak that he has to “give the puck to get the puck” that suddenly he realized that this was also his own problem. He came in as coach determined to walk the puck himself around every obstacle.

    Even a coach has to give the puck to get the puck.

    Time to bury the ‘five stages of grief’ myth

    Yes, but can we keep bargaining? That was always my favorite stage.

  181. Woodguy says:

    Ribs:
    Missed the game (lucky me?). Did they do any of the cycling Eakins said they were practicing or was it track meet time again?

    Glad to hear Arco is here to stay!

    The Hall Post game interview is a good thing to hear. I just hope he wasn’t singling out Yakupov with the penalty comment.

    Why doesn’t the NHL list the penalties in the video feeds after the games? They do goals, saves and hits. Was Yak’s penalty that bad?

    Pretty sure Hall was talking about Smyth’s neutral zone water ski hook. The SJS PP took 47 seconds to turn it into the game’s first goal.

    Lazy ass penalty.

    Smyth has taken one a game lately.

  182. Woodguy says:

    Ribs: Why would they cycle on a 3 on 1? Nevermind, dumb question. Because Oilers. lol, thanks.

    Exactly.

    3 on 1 and try to pass through the 1 Dman twice.

    Lordy.

  183. Woodguy says:

    DeadmanWaking:
    Eakins was a different man in the post game tonight.He didn’t begin every second sentence with “listen”. He seemed open and engaged, and somehow less combative.Perhaps he’s moving from bargaining/depression into acceptance.

    It gave me the feeling that the other day when he said of Yak that he has to “give the puck to get the puck” that suddenly he realized that this was also his own problem. He came in as coach determined to walk the puck himself around every obstacle.

    Even a coach has to give the puck to get the puck.

    Time to bury the ‘five stages of grief’ myth

    Yes, but can we keep bargaining? That was always my favorite stage.

    We need the 5 stages if only to have this.

  184. Woodguy says:

    I love Bruce:

    #26 Mark Arcobello, did not play. Was benched, demoted to the minors, and told to get an apartment in Edmonton on the same day. Welcome to the Oilers, son.

    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/11/16/oilers-player-grades-scoreless-drought-ends-winless-drought-remains-as-sharks-top-oil-3-1/

  185. leadfarmer says:

    Woodguy,

    This team has sucked for so long that even Bruce’s standards are getting low. 4.6 average score (close to average on his grading scale) after losing to a team playing their 3rd game in 4 night. It was very lopsided until the Sharks decided they had the game and stopped trying.

  186. Woodguy says:

    leadfarmer:
    Woodguy,

    This team has sucked for so long that even Bruce’s standards are getting low.4.6 average score (close to average on his grading scale) after losing to a team playing their 3rd game in 4 night.It was very lopsided until the Sharks decided they had the game and stopped trying.

    They were only awful in the 1st.

    Score effects and SJS putting it into cruise control certainly helped the shot totals.

    Glad to see the Oilers start to swarm the oppositions net.

    Still missing Kaptain Horcov and his net front presence on the PP.

    They gotta get someone in front of the net and quit trying to pass it into the net.

    That 3-1 without a shot was So Oilers.

    3 passes, no shot.

    SJS 3 on 1. 2 passes – goal.

    Hope everyone also saw why some many harp on how many PP shots are taken is so important.

    SJS makes 2 passes and shoots with a guy in front and just keeps hammering the puck at the net.

    One of the best PPs in the NHL for 8+ years and its not a secret why.

    Its a secret why everyone doesn’t try to emulate it.

  187. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    DeadmanWaking: Yes, but can we keep bargaining? That was always my favorite stage.

    I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a burger today.

  188. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    leadfarmer:
    I miss that Penner guy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyNalu–qgc

    That guy clapping is my hero.

  189. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Woodguy: Hope everyone also saw why some many harp on how many PP shots are taken is so important.
    SJS makes 2 passes and shoots with a guy in front and just keeps hammering the puck at the net.
    One of the best PPs in the NHL for 8+ years and its not a secret why.
    Its a secret why everyone doesn’t try to emulate it.

    Don’t forget they move the puck damn fast too and the guys without the puck don’t just stand there… their PP isn’t some architectural piece meant to stand there forever. They move damnit!

    But yea… shooting… that helps.

  190. Andy P says:

    I’m seeing a lot of mindless criticism these days, the kind that so easily develops into a perfect storm that forces weak teams to make moves that guarantee mediocrity. I liked MacT, Renney and Krueger as coaches. I don’t like Lowe as GM but I feel he was and is mostly irrelevant since he moved next door to the Owner’s suite, he is just the owner’s mouthpiece now.

    I’m not going to credit Tambo with much if anything to do with any of the team successes. Tambo lacked vision and balls. The improvements that took place in the A and the Juniors, and the scouting were because Katz poured money into the organization. In the draft he had no option but to take the bpa. His weak leadership, where he turned on the good coaches mentioned above to save his own skin, and his inability to find good players, over as many years as he held the job, is core to the depth of ruination and disarray he put this team into and the amount of time and effort it takes to change bad habits ingrained into really talented players. The biggest negative on 6 Rings is how long he put up with all of this.

    So many here talk about the entitlement of the Boys on the Bus. How many people have looked at the other teams in the league? Seems pretty normal to me for any organization to be more comfortable with bringing back people they know, who have had success with the team in the past. This is also a documented common denominator with large, successful companies – promoting with it.

    I’m thinking we should take an opposite view here. Thank goodness we had a person available of MacT’s caliber in playing and coaching, who went out and got an MBA late in life, and chose to come back to the rollicking cock-up that Tambo left behind. I am not sure how many people of the necessary caliber would be willing to put their careers on the line enough to take on this thankless job. This is a man who is intelligent, capable, and bleeds orange and blue.

    With regards Eakins, I think the same human beings that decry Eakins’ hiring would have howled just as loud had he hired anyone but the best coach available. I myself have suggested bringing up Todd Nelson, but in reality as excellent a coach as he is, and I am not looking forward to the day he coaches against us, Todd was the 2nd best coach available, MacT had to be familiar with him as he was with Krueger, and clearly the chemistry was not there for some reason.

    There is no way Krueger would have weathered this storm, and no way Todd would have avoided the lack of results as he set about doing what Eakins is doing, perhaps with faster selection of players and therefore more use of the pre-season, and earlier buy-in from the players. None of us know whether DD would have collapsed as he did under Eakins, but I am sure that the injuries we endured would have plagued whatever coach we had, it’s just that the injuries and the goalie collapse got lost in the noise of the 7 year chant.

    Right now the team, MacT and Eakins are all in this together. Hats off to all 3 for not withering under the pressure, maintaining their focus, and their vision, and not making the bad short term choices that have so hobbled this team.

    I cannot bear to watch this team right now but it does not mean that I am not following them. I do PVR, and I do follow the TSN box score during the game, and I do read this blog quite religiously, although I do tune out posters that post silly negative mantras as invitations to pissing contests.

    I have not seen any moves by MacT that I have been unable to make sense of, including the Smid trade, that was the cost of a stand-in goalie, two prospects of which one may well become our #1 standout goalie of the future, and a solid future 4th liner.

    I have not been able to make a lot of sense of much of what Eakins is doing, I am sure that he is grateful to have a GM of the caliber of MacT standing behind and alongside of him in the tough rookie year he is having. however just because Eakins does not make a lot of sense to me – or to you – does not mean he is a bad coach, it just means that you and I don’t have access to the facts at his disposal, and until you or I can produce the hockey resume that he can – as a player and as a winning coach – We can only label what we think of him as uninformed speculation. Which is the reason blogging is fun, because we don’t get cities wanting to tar and feather us if our thoughts turn out to be incorrect.

    It is true that the final measure of a team is the win/loss column, just as the final measure of a business is its long term profitability. I am cutting Eakins a break because everything he says does make sense. I was very impressed at the way they handled the crisis yesterday. That was textbook from top to bottom. I have chosen to accept the 30 game yardstick because it made sense in the context of everything else I have seen and heard, and I am seeing fundamental improvement in the manner in which this team is playing. This is becoming a mentally tough team that is going through the fire as a unit, something that will see them better weather the future pressures of extended playoff runs. they have obviously prioritized the fix, first the defense, then the consistency, then the offence while not forgetting their defensive responsibilities.

    What a wonderful day that will be when these trolls find themselves faced with nothing but LT’s famous large cups of STFU. :)

  191. Ribs says:

    Woodguy: Pretty sure Hall was talking about Smyth’s neutral zone water ski hook. The SJS PP took 47 seconds to turn it into the game’s first goal.
    Lazy ass penalty.

    Smyth has taken one a game lately.

    Another old man penalty from Smyth!? Geez. So much for setting a good example. Eakins even noted not taking the penalties that “don’t do anything” before the game.

    I hope Smytty brings his kids to the game tonight so that he shows up to play hockey. It seemed to work last year.

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