#16 PROSPECT: JOHN MCCARRON

One of the biggest leaps up the list this fall is John McCarron. We knew he’d get a push in playing time at Cornell in his junior season, but he’s ranked here because of the things he’s done with the extra time. John McCarron is a big man with skill, and that has value in any era.

PREVIOUSLY NUMBER SIXTEEN ON THE LIST

  • December 2004: L Brock Radunske
  • December 2005: L Slava Trukhno
  • December 2006: D Theo Peckham
  • December 2007: D Mathieu Roy
  • December 2008: L Teemu Hartikainen
  • December 2009: L Toni Rajala
  • December 2010: D Taylor Chorney
  • December 2011: G Frans Tuohimaa
  • December 2012: G Olivier Roy

This list looks like it should, a bunch of guys we vaguely remember and then a third-seventh round guy who took awhile to arrive in the mix. Four of the nine have played in the NHL, but the only regular was Theo Peckham and I’m not sure that’s really a true statement. For me, I’m still surprised that Hartikainen didn’t make it despite the speed issues—I have him as a better player so far than Joensuu—and Peckham was a disappointment but that was a fine draft pick for my money.

WHAT THEY SAID ON DRAFT DAY

MCCARRON

  • Stu MacGregor: “John McCarron has a big body, has good hands. Very strong on the puck. He takes it to the net, has a good shot. Strong around the net. Another guy who, after a couple of years in college, we can hopefully look forward to forward him challenging to make the team.”
  • Kirk Luedeke discussing McCarron on Nation Radio: “He’s another one of those raw guys, pretty hard nosed for college. Nothing flashy, meat and potatoes north-south type player his production was pretty good. He’s got a chance to be a bottom 6 player, at very best he would be a fringe third liner or solid fourth liner. He finishes his check and goes hard to the net. He’s a pretty hard nosed guy for NCAA, has a chance to play because he’s big and strong. Straight line player, drops his shoulder, finishes his check and fights for position in front of the net.”

JOHN MCCARRON NHL EQUIVALENCIES BY YEAR

PLAYER TOTAL NHL E
MCCARRON 2011-12 NCAA 33, 6-13-19 82, 4-8-12
MCCARRON 2012-13 NCAA 33, 7-12-19 82, 4-8-12
MCCARRON 2013-14 NCAA 13, 3-12-15 82, 5-19-24

Rob Vollman had a look at NHLE in his terrific Hockey Abstract, and one of the things he did was separate the NHLE for colleges. ECAC comes out (.25) behind WCHA, and that’s the reason for the gap in numbers for McCarron compared to some others in the top 20. He’s getting more playing time and the offense is coming with the playing time, and for me that puts him in front of some recent prospects who aren’t pushing so far this year.

I think we should probably keep McCarron in mind as a guy who could push for an NHL job when he turns pro. At 6.02, 225 and 21 years old, he’s about 6 months younger than Tyler Pitlick and may be applying for the same job in the fall (should he sign with the Oilers and leave college early).

PREVIOUS TOP 20 RANKING

  • Summer 2012: NR
  • Winter 2012: NR
  • Summer 2013: 26
  • Winter 2013: 16

This is a late round pick, a long shot (6th round, 153rd overall in 2012) and history tells us the odds of McCarron playing 200 games in the NHL aren’t great. However, McCarron has taken advantage of an opportunity and that NHLE combined with his size and the scouting report push him ahead of the rest in this part of the cluster. Considering his age, resume, performance and position he’s not that far from an NHL look-see with the Oilers.

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If I’m McCarron’s “advisor” I’m emailing this young man all of the MacT quotes about adding size along with the projected depth chart for this hockey club on RW for 2014-15:

  1. Jordan Eberle
  2. Nail Yakupov
  3. Mark Arcobello
  4. Tyler Pitlick

And tell him to sign anything resembling a contract. The Edmonton Oilers need a few good men, and the opportunities are exceptional on right wing.

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17 Responses to "#16 PROSPECT: JOHN MCCARRON"

  1. Ben says:

    You won’t find ‘McCarron’ about this team after another couple of games like that one.

  2. TheOtherJohn says:

    Wonder what Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Yak, Gagner & JSchultz think when they watch Cassie Campbell call them out as selfish twits that play for the name on the back of the jersey not the creat on the front of the jersey? Nothing, probably. Hall’s 1st goal against Avs frames issue quite nicely: Avs get 2 wide open high event shots from slot uncontested, oilers get puck throw it long for breakaway goal. Hall 2 steps behind Avs D when we gain possession. =definition of leaving zone early

  3. flyfish1168 says:

    TheOtherJohn:
    Wonder what Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Yak, Gagner & JSchultz think when they watch Cassie Campbell call them out as selfish twits that play for the name on the back of the jersey not the creat on the front of the jersey? Nothing, probably. Hall’s 1st goal against Avs frames issue quite nicely: Avs get 2 wide open high event shots from slot uncontested, oilers get puck throw it long for breakaway goal. Hall 2 steps behind Avs D when we gain possession. =definition of leaving zone early

    TheOtherJohn,

    I totally agree. I have said this before. We shoot and hit the Net to create chaos on the opposition, when we miss the net we create chaos on our selves. So what if your shooting % is single digit. Just one unselfish thing you can do.

  4. Hammers says:

    Not sure McCarron has a chance for at least 4 years as by then we may have a new look ! So everyone is pissed at loosing to Calgary and potentially having another 1st overall pick . It’s all in the plan set out by Mr. Katz . He wants to be the first owner to get 6 choices in a row all in the top 10 , Magnus , Taylor , Ryan , Nail , Nurse & ??? and 4 of them # 1′s . Wow will we be the team to talk about . Young team with so much potential . Rewind, as we have been hearing that the last few years. What we really need are players who give 100% for there teammates and not themselves .Maybe go back to before the above group and that gets us Ebs & Gags . Looks really good on paper but the game is played on the ice . Do something Craig .

  5. flyfish1168 says:

    Hammers:
    Not sure McCarron has a chance for at least 4 years as by then we may have a new look !So everyone is pissed at loosing to Calgary and potentially having another 1st overall pick . It’s all in the plan set out by Mr. Katz . He wants to be the first owner to get 6 choices in a row all in the top 10 ,Magnus , Taylor , Ryan , Nail, Nurse & ??? and 4 of them # 1′s . Wow will we be the team to talk about . Young team with so much potential . Rewind, as we have been hearing that the last few years. What we really need are players who give 100% for there teammates and not themselves .Maybe go back to before the above group and that gets us Ebs & Gags . Looks really good on paper but the game is played on the ice . Do something Craig .

    Hammers,

    “They’ve had a pick anywhere from No. 1 to No. 10 year after year after year after year, and they still wander in the desert.”

    I hate to say it but feaster is correct. So why don’t our management post this in their office wall.

  6. Woodguy says:

    After the Hall draft and the dedication to tanking, a popular meme here was:

    1) Tank
    2) Get high draft picks
    3) ??????????
    4) STANLEY!

    I guess were at #3 and no one in the Oilers has clue how to step forward.

    Also,

    I heard that EDM/NYI had a trade lined up that included Doobie until Bryz got hurt.

    Had Hickey coming this way.

    That’s exactly what the Oilers need.

    Another 2/3 LHD.

    Sure don’t have enough of those!

  7. Caramel Obvious says:

    I’m going to post this in this thread as well because you all need to read it and gain some perspective.

    You people lose your minds on game day. The Oilers were clearly the better team and then tied the game with ten seconds left. That’s what I call a good game because that is a good game.

    As for the direction the team is headed I point you to this.

    http://www.extraskater.com/team/edmonton-oilers/2013#performance-graphs

    The team has one the possession battle six of the last eight games. Has that ever happened in the past five years? Moreover, one of the games they lost the possession battle they won 8-2.

    Give your heads a shake and stop complaining. These are good things. Would you rather be the Leafs?

    http://www.extraskater.com/team/toronto-maple-leafs/2013#performance-graphs

    That’s what a bad team looks like.

  8. Lowetide says:

    Caramel: I understand they dominated a bad team, but they lost for the reasons we’ve been frustrated about all season—they’re not interested in the “what you leave” or the “get the ball back” portions of the game.

    And they’re both a pretty big damn deal!

  9. justDOit says:

    I’m more on-side with Camel on this one. Sure it stings to lose to the Flambes, especially in OT, but they didn’t play a horrible game last night.

  10. Chris says:

    The Phoenix game was a game where i understand everyone losing their shit. That was an aweful sad clown spectacle of a hockey game. The Oilers ran into a goalie who had a good game, they didn’t play badly and got a bad break in OT. If they had been playing Tampa instead of Calgary people wouldn’t be throwing this hissy fit

  11. Bar_Qu says:

    I am more & more a fan of the Flames this season b/c they play like the Oilers teams of the 90a that I lived to cheer for. I miss the never-say-die play that characterized them & I don’t see anything of that in the current team (excluding Hall’s gutsy performances).

    The final goal & the look on Marincin’s face as he looked at his “experienced” teammate’s half-hearted defensive effort was the worst part of the game. Start nailing guys to three bench for this regardless of pedigree & if they don’t get it, trade them.

    Period

  12. Numenius says:

    justDOit:
    I’m more on-side with Camel on this one. Sure it stings to lose to the Flambes, especially in OT, but they didn’t play a horrible game last night.

    I agree. Don’t understand why this game has everyone so up in arms. I saw improvement in the defensive play of many forwards (even though it was far from perfect) and Petry’s absence was a huge loss. The hockey gods also seemed to be correcting for the Colorado game and sometimes you just gotta accept it.

  13. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide:
    Caramel: I understand they dominated a bad team, but they lost for the reasons we’ve been frustrated about all season—they’re not interested in the “what you leave” or the “get the ball back” portions of the game.

    And they’re both a pretty big damn deal!

    Yes, if they are not back checking well and playing without the puck it doesn’t matter flying fuck at a rolling donut when they win the Fenclose battle as most of the FF against will be out numbered situations.

    This team isn’t interested in the battle.

    A sick, bad and injured Flames team should be decimated by the Oilers.

    No net pressure, everyone waiting for the other guy to get him the puck, all the forward waiting for the D to re-gain possession and get it to them.

    Its a team full of junior level minded goal sucks who count success in the personal point total column and not the win column.

    Sure they out FF’d the Flames, it would be an abomination if they didn’t, but they didn’t play a good hockey game.

    Bunch of namby pamby little puff balls hanging out at the blue line waiting for everyone else to do the work for them.

  14. ohhell says:

    Agreed on the disinterest re: backchecking in their own zone, but what really stood out to me last night (went to the game despite my own personal boycott commitment) was their disinterest in putting pucks to the net. I don’t think I have ever witnessed a game where there was so much o-zone possession and so few chances generated. Sucked the life out of the building.

    I love the Oilers, love (loved?) the young guns, but fuck, the only one with a clue to getting the puck to the net is Perron and obviously he learned that in another system. This pass-first, pretty play bunch of yohos are wearing me down. Eberle alone passed up multiple centre slot shots in favor of passes to the side of the net or toe-drags that didn’t even generate chance. He’s not the only one. The one goal they scored was a puck to the net.

    Did I forget to mention the “kings of the cross-ice path through traffic”. WTF is Sam Gagner thinking? Taylor Hall is taking lessons from Sam. Why can’t Hemsky wait one millisecond more at the blueline? Why do they pass it into each other’s feet when they are 10 feet apart? What’s with the pass back to the phantom middle blue-liner on the PP? What’s with the PP? Prett-pass fuckin-fuckers make me nuts. Pretty pass goals are nice off the rush when you have a lead and the other team is taking more chances, but when you need a goal and you pass up opportunities and generate nothing it is exasperating.

    We all say “they are young, they will adapt”. I say bullshit. Any team can carry one or two of these guys, but our culture is built on it. There is a better chance of converting Perron into being a soft, selfish player than seeing these other young stars play a complete game. Fuck!

    They seem unteachable to me! Fed-up! Anybody who thought last night was a good game was obviously watching the game from a sofa with a supply of alcohol and a pretty lady to distract. That game was shit. You could hear the puck hit a players stick it was so quiet in the building.

    I need a break from this shit. It saddens me, but the only path to future success that I can see lies in dismantling some of the kids from the equation in favor of hockey players who believe in a team game and some work ethic. Fuck the Oilers.

    Rant over! (for now) Is this going to get me banned? Maybe that’s for the best. Sigh.

  15. Marc says:

    I do hope that the next time someone criticises the GM skills of Mike Milbury, or wonders how the brain trust in Boston could have thought that trading Joe Thornton was a good idea, they remember the comments on here over the last 24 hours.

    Because the worst trades in NHL happen when a GM starts thinking like a lot of folks on here. They tell themselves that their first overall pick puts up a lot of points, but he’s soft and isn’t really a leader, so the team would be better and more balanced with Marco Sturm, Wayne Primeau and Brad Stuart instead of Jumbo. Or they get sick of so many years outside the playoffs and decide they can’t wait till the young talent turns into complete players, so they decide a veteran at the top of his game (Yashin) rather than a pick (Spezza) and a prospect (Chara) is what the team needs to push them over the top.

    This team has a lot of problems, but history tells us that trading blue chip young players for help now is never, ever the answer to these questions in the long run.

  16. Woodguy says:

    Marc:
    I do hope that the next time someone criticises the GM skills of Mike Milbury, or wonders how the brain trust in Boston could have thought that trading Joe Thornton was a good idea, they remember the comments on here over the last 24 hours.

    Because the worst trades inNHL happen when a GM starts thinking like a lot of folks on here.They tell themselves that their first overall pick puts up a lot of points, but he’s soft and isn’t really a leader, so the team would be better and more balanced withMarco Sturm, Wayne Primeau and Brad Stuart instead of Jumbo. Or they get sick of so many years outside the playoffs and decide they can’t wait till the young talent turns into complete players, so they decide a veteran at the top of his game (Yashin) rather than a pick (Spezza) and a prospect (Chara) is what the team needs to push them over the top.

    This team has a lot of problems, but history tells us that trading blue chip young players for help now is never, ever the answer to these questions in the long run.

    The landscape is also littered with NYI, Atlanta/Winnipeg, Columbus, Edmonton, and Florida who get high pick after high pick and do sweet fuck all with the talent.

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