BLUE CONDITION

Dallas Eakins has employed 11 defensemen so far this season, and it’s interesting to see who he trusts and who he does not trust in certain situations. It may offer us some clues about what Craig MacTavish will be looking for in trade in the future.

EVEN STRENTH TOI PER GAME (THROUGH 31 GAMES)

  1. Phil Larsen 18:00
  2. Justin Schultz 17:46
  3. Jeff Petry 17:42
  4. Andrew Ference 17:22
  5. Anton Belov 16:31
  6. Ladislav Smid 15:20*
  7. Nick Schultz 13:48
  8. Martin Marincin 13:36
  9. Denis Grebeshkov 12:53
  10. Corey Potter 11:56
  11. Taylor Fedun 10:58

 EVEN STRENGTH TOI LAST NIGHT

  1. Phil Larsen 21:47
  2. Andrew Ference 20:57
  3. Justin Schultz 16:43
  4. Nick Schultz 15:55
  5. Anton Belov 15:30
  6. Corey Potter 15:18

I find it interesting to look at this stuff because you can find indicators. Now Potter was hurt for a time and Nick Schultz was playing without thumbs again, but this is a strong indicator that Dallas Eakins likes what Phil Larsen brings. THIS is perhaps a tell about what Craig MacTavish might be looking for in a defender: while Matty mourns the loss of Mark Fistric, the coach finds this skating defenseman interesting enough to play 21:47 at even-strength.

Mobility, folks. Embrace it. Good news for Nurse, Klefbom and fleet skaters. Death for the slow pokes.

PHIL LARSEN

larsen scouting report

SUNSHINE, LOLLIPOPS AND RAINBOWS mc79tweet

FIRST 21: 4-15-2

SINCE: 7-3-1

That’s a nice run since the early part of the season. The Oilers are a better team since game 21, I’m not smart enough to know all the reasons why but would guess tactical, personnel, health and goaltending account for a bunch of it. If the Edmonton Oilers can go 7-3-1 in their next 11 (a tall order based on the rest of the week, mind you) they’ll own a 18-21-6 record and we’ll be pulling out all of Lesley Gore’s 45s.

EDMONTON, ALTA.:      JUNE 25, 2010 -- in Edmonton on June 25, 2010. (Ryan Jackson / Edmonton Journal).

THE LAST 10 GAMES

  1. Taylor Hall 10, 7-7-14 +3
  2. David Perron 10, 7-5-12 +4
  3. Jordan Eberle 10, 6-5-11 +1
  4. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 10, 2-9-11 +1
  5. Sam Gagner 10, 3-5-8 +2
  6. Ales Hemsky 10, 2-5-7 +2
  7. Ryan Smyth 9, 1-5-6 +1
  8. Nail Yakupov 10, 2-3-5 -4
  9. Mark Arcobello 7, 1-3-4 +1
  10. Justin Schultz 10, 2-2-4 +1
  11. Andrew Ference 10, 1-2-3 E
  12. Corey Potter 5, 0-3-3 +1
  13. Anton Belov 8, 0-1-1 +3
  14. Boyd Gordon 5, 0-1-1 +1
  15. Denis Grebeshkov 4, 0-1-1 -1
  16. Jesse Joensuu 8, 1-0-1 -4
  17. Nick Schultz 10, 0-1-1 +1
  18. Jeff Petry 8, 0-1-1 E
  19. Ryan Jones 7, 0-1-1 -1
  20. Phil Larsen 3, 0-1-1 +3
  21. Luke Gazdic 6, 0-0-0 E
  22. Will Acton 5, 0-0-0 -2
  23. Anton Lander 3, 0-0-0 E
  24. Martin Marincin 2, 0-0-0 E
  25. Devan Dubnyk 9 (5-2-1) 2.73 .898
  26. Ilyz Bryzgalov 4 (1-1-0) 2.11 .939

The Oilers best players have been their best players in the last 10 games and that’s reflected in the won-loss (6-3-1) and the GF and GA total (35-26) and there’s definitely some good things going on. Now, this has been a softer part of the schedule and the Oilers are about to climb a tough hill of competition (Boston, Vancouver and Anaheim are straight ahead) but for now there are some things to celebrate about this hockey team.

It’s also interesting to see the top 8 scorers and the starting goalie are all first rounders, and the next guy on the list didn’t rank an NHL two-way deal when the Barons signed him. Mark Arcobello is one of the Oilers top 3 centers currently by eye, if this keeps going he’ll have Gagner’s job by Christmas.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

ROSS78

 TSN1260 at 10 this morning, it’ll be a fun morning because McCurdy was grumpy on the internet last night. Scheduled to appear:

  • Jeff Chapman, Copper and Blue. A win is a win is a win, but how are these kids going to beat Boston?
  • Vanessa Hettinger, C0-founder of Quantum Speed and skating coach for the Edmonton Oil Kings.
  • Bruce McCurdy, Cult of Hockey. Is this the worst 7-3-1 team in history?
  • Corey Graham, Oil Kings play by play. The OK keep rolling along, can they survive the WJ roster raids?

10-1260 for text, @Lowetide_ on twitter. Stay tuned!

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86 Responses to "BLUE CONDITION"

  1. Dragos says:

    I wouldn’t mind it if Arcobello moves up. His defensive play is far better.

  2. Woodguy says:

    The corgi’s continue on their run.

    Nov 16th the Oilers were 29th in the NHL with a 41.9%Fen close (putrid)

    Today they rank 24th with a 47.4%

    Source: http://www.extraskater.com/teams/on-ice?type=total

    That’s a hell of a climb, and like Tyler mentioned, the 55.3% has been excellent (if they had it for the year they’d be 5th in the NHL in that category)

    They’ve done against the weaker teams, but remember they’ve all been above the Oilers in the standings.

    Oilers are about to be on top of the “putrid teams” pile which consists of CAL, EDM, FLA, BUF and NYI.

    Next they need to get into the mix in the “meh teams” section of the standings which are OTT, WIN, NSH, NYR, NJD, CLB, PHI, CAR.

    All those team are near “.500″

    Oilers are currently 7 games below .500.

    Tough schedule coming up too.

    If they can go 6-4 in the next 10 that’s would be great given the competition, back to backs, 10 games in 20 days including the Xmas break and 6 of 10 on the road.

  3. bookje says:

    To be fair, they may have been the best 4-15-2 team in history.

  4. PhrankLee says:

    I was very pleased at watching the Oilers win. It is a very late night in Toronto and I usually go to bed crying. I did not like the way they let Carolina back in but they got to win an OT game at home. I was happy for our fans back home. Really freaked out about the Larsen TOI but who else do you play? I am not wowed by Justin S like I hoped to be. I feel he watches too much and ignores the trailer. Sam Gagner is really pissing me off with lazy plays along the boards. Swatting at the puck as he skates by it is NOT good enough. I am so frustrated with him, injury and all.

  5. Woodguy says:

    Here’s the CF close for last night among the D:

    Potter 87.5%
    Belov 87.5%
    Ference 68.2%
    Larsen 66.7%
    J.Shultz 38.9%
    N.Shultz 35.3%

    By eye N.Shultz was just awful last night and the numbers bear that out.

    Last year the Shultz twins pairing was a gong show and that’s continuing.

    This team is immediately better if its Belov-J.Shultz on the 2nd pairing.

    This team would be much, much better if Belov-J.Shultz was the 3rd pairing due to ability/results.

    Dare to dream.

  6. Woodguy says:

    bookje:
    To be fair, they may have been the best 4-15-2 team in history.

    Their corgi’s couldn’t run close after 5 games though.

    Team went into a serious tailspin after losing games due to shitty goaltending when winning the hunting dog battle.

    Weird, weird start.

  7. Doomoil says:

    How bad was Gagner from the middle of the second on? I had to stop watching the game and am just now catching up on my twitter feed from last night.

    Lots of people ripping him to shreds.

  8. DeadmanWaking says:

    I had the game on the radio again. By the middle of the third period, I didn’t even know which team I was cheering for: I was suffering from a bad case of loser envy. Who are these lovable losers, and why aren’t they mine? We could sure use some of whatever they put in their grits for breakfast.

    Eakins sure looked wiped in that post-game presser. Makes you wonder about his fitness level. More time on the bike?

    Also, the Oilers’ scoring recap after the second was a nice trip down “one of these things is not like the others” memory lane. Isn’t Joensuu now supposed to run off to another kingdom, where he discovers he’s nobility, after all?

  9. TheOtherJohn says:

    Goaltending has not been a big problem for this team for over a month. There have other reasons we have struggled. When looking at this 8 game stretch before C’mas I pencilled in Carolina as a win for the Oil B2B, etc. Turned out I was nearly wrong

    Very nice goal by Eric Staal

    LT says 7-3, WG says 6-4 over the next 10 as evidence we’ve really turned the corner. I anticipate 4-5-1 (including the Car win) and the corner is still in front of us

  10. hunter1909 says:

    Constant anti-Gagner whining is one of the reasons I’m starting to lose patience around here.

    Never any mention re what he actually can do, e.g. his pass to Yakupov in the slot …had it gone it’s the goal of the century.

    This is a ridiculously young talent laden team, with more offensive talent than the entire Calgary Flames. Like before, it’s got a lot to do with the role players and Eakin’s seems to have this figured out by rotating the fuck out of them as they either blow or get injured.

    Accountability be hanged.

  11. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    The really interesting thing on Larsen is trying to figure out when the coach took a shine to him.

    IIRC Eakins didn’t say much about him during preseason. But, Larsen was one of the last ones sent out of camp. Him and Hamilton were put on waivers to make room for Gazdic among other things. Eakins said he hoped both would get picked up as they are both “nhl players:

    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=20834

    which is certainly an odd thing to say in Hamilton’s case.

    Larsen plays 2 games with the Barons and gets recalled:

    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=21316

    Plays no games with the Oil and gets sent back down:

    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=21453

    Then, on Nov. 1st he gets called up (same time as 19 gets injured) and basically discovered a champion in Eakins.

    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=22189

    Somewhere during that 19less stretch, Eakins fell in love with him.

    I’ve pondered two possibilities in the past.

    Moderate version: they sign Larsen to some kind of deal. Say two years 2M.
    Extreme version: they deal 19 and keep Larsen.

    I think the extreme version is very, very unlikely… but I bet it has crossed MacT’s mind.

  12. hunter1909 says:

    Woodguy: If they can go 6-4 in the next 10 that’s would be great given the competition, back to backs, 10 games in 20 days including the Xmas break and 6 of 10 on the road.

    It 100% will have everything to do with whatever they’re collectively thinking as they continue to grow against NHL opposition; instead of their usual shrinking violet routine which always starts at this time of the year.

  13. Doomoil says:

    hunter1909,

    Wasn’t that pass from Hall?

    Pretty sure it went Yak -> Gagner -> Hall -> Yak

  14. hunter1909 says:

    I remember one early shift where a Carolina player behind his own goal carrying the puck has Hall arrive and take it of him like candy from a baby. An NHL defender, made to look like a child from that play. If I can see it I’m pretty certain NHL players watching on tv can see it also. Hall’s like an angry hornet when he does that.

    Yakupov now starts paying attention to defense and he instantly shows an ability to control space and always with the puck in mind as he happily skates backwards down ice for the first time ever, lol. If his Gagner pass doesn’t hit the bar it might be the greatest goal ever scored in the history of hockey, or something like that because the kid is absolute freaking dynamite on ice.

  15. SoCaloil says:

    Last night showed how poor this team is at winning pucks along the boards. If you’re going to be a winning team, you have to win the small battles especially in your own zone. A number of times there was 2 canes per oil on the boards. They’re waiting around for the puck to squirt out so they can go away to the races. Doesn’t work like that. Need to support one another better.

    I’ve been reasonable happy with Potters play. Maybe due to low expectations. His been battling and eating sticks. Belov needs a bit of work on the pk. Him trying to skate the puck out and loosing it makes no sense when there’s plenty of room and time to dump it

  16. Cobbler says:

    “The Oilers best players have been their best players in the last 10 games and that’s reflected in the won-loss (6-3-1) and the GF and GA total (35-26) and there’s definitely some good things going on. Now, this has been a softer part of the schedule and the Oilers are about to climb a tough hill of competition (Boston, Vancouver and Anaheim are straight ahead) but for now there are some things to celebrate about this hockey team.”

    It’s always darkest before the dawn?

    Lets hope for continued offense against some of the best teams in the coming 10 games.

  17. hunter1909 says:

    Doomoil:
    hunter1909,

    Wasn’t that pass from Hall?

    Pretty sure it went Yak -> Gagner -> Hall -> Yak

    Sorry about that. I’m still raving about that almost goal – just happy to watch a team that can complete their passes to each other.

    I’m gradually getting worn down by the stats talk – noticing the shot count on goal last night which makes me feel like some kind of proto statistical freak.

  18. Doomoil says:

    It was an incredible shot by Yak.

    Yak shots are like going back to SD TV. You can see the motion, but have no hope of actually seeing the puck before it hits something.

  19. theres oil in virginia says:

    hunter1909: Constant anti-Gagner whining is one of the reasons I’m starting to lose patience around here.

    Looks to me like Gagner is starting to get his mojo back. He’s beginning to make really good moves with the puck and some better passes. Still some doozies in there though, and he’s still a liability in the d-zone: he was interfering with Dubnyk and trying to check the wrong man (who was covered by an Oilers defenseman) when Jordan Staal (aka Gagner’s mark) scored. Definitely moving in the right direction though.

  20. David says:

    O.T. Is there any actual reasons for believing Dillion Simpson will Justin Schultz us other than fear? Sounds like he wants to play for us.

    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=695325&navid=DL|EDM|home

  21. PaperKurtRussell says:

    If it makes anybody feel any better about that awful third period comeback… I have Cam Ward in my pool, so you know… I got a point. :-)

  22. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    David:
    O.T. Is there any actual reasons for believing Dillion Simpson will Justin Schultz us other than fear? Sounds like he wants to play for us.

    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=695325&navid=DL|EDM|home

    Great find!

    I’ll note though, that if you strip away the filler and just read his quotes and paraphrases thereof, he doesn’t seem to say anything about the Oilers and his future with them other than reflecting on watching his dad play for them when he was a kid and that being drafted by the Oil was surreal.

    I think the good money is on them working things out — the early graduation and the ability to burn a year of ELC gives the Oil a huge advantage… but you never know.

  23. John Chambers says:

    bookje,

    Early in the season the Oilers really shouldve won against Winnipeg in the opener, then Toronto where they earned a point, then in Phoenix when LaBarbera crapped the bed.

    That’s five points which puts them spitting distance from a .500 points team, but on a roll and adjusted to the new system.

    That said the West has been so dominant that perhaps we’ll look back and call those losses a blessing in disguise when we’re selecting 6th instead of 12th in June.

  24. Andy P says:

    Playing a healthy Bryz in goal seems to me to be an immediate upgrade for this team. I would love this team to face DD in a playoff series.

    I see a parallel between DD and Magnus Paarjavi. Big men, drafter early, seem to have lots of potential, given lots of rope, good enough to not give up on them yet, but never quite get to where they need to be.

    We know what happened to MPS, I feel we need to do the same with DD by way of in-season trade or just let him go in the offseason.

    One measure of a player is how one would feel about having that player on an opposing team. I would have no qualms about the Oilers facing DD in a first round playoff game. First round because I don’t think DD could take a team past that point.

  25. Jujhar says:

    Doomoil: hunter1909, Wasn’t that pass from Hall?Pretty sure it went Yak -> Gagner -> Hall -> Yak

    people like to give Gagner, the king of second assists, credit when he doesnt deserve it all the time…

  26. B S says:

    SoCaloil,

    Watch the first period again. The Carolina announcers were lamenting the fact that the Oilers were kicking their buts along the boards and winning the battles. I’m betting Kirk Mueller saw that and started getting his players to double team along the boards. The Oil didn’t start losing the majority of battles along the boards until the 3rd period.

    Also, you guys can whine about SNW commentary and PBP all you want, but they’ve nothing on the atrocity that is Fox Sports Carolina, certainly no Sportsnet Ontario, but still pretty awful. They also blamed Cam Ward for the Yak goal, insane! That was a one-timer that went from Yak’s stick to the back of the net between video frames.

    Also, favourite player of the game last night was Joensuu, that was fantastic watching an Oiler crash the net on purpose for the first time in 4 years

  27. denny33 says:

    VanOil:
    Jonathan Willis ‏@JonathanWillis 8m
    First media guy to ask Eakins ‘Why is Sam Gagner playing ahead of Arcobello, given his poor defensive play?’ wins everything.

    ***********************************************************************************************

    Does anyone know if this question was answered by Eakins?

  28. boopronger says:

    How can people rip on gagner but not the rest of the kids? What about halls 2 giveaways in the same play that lead to skinners goal? I think eberle had 4 giveaways himself just on that 5 min power play. Very frustrating game to watch IMO

  29. Hammers says:

    Agree that Belov & N.Schultz need to switch until Petry comes back then Petry , Belov . J.Schultz should be on 3rd pairing and if only getting 15 min try him with Marincin . . Our “D” is still the biggest problem . As for Arco it seems he makes more hits than any other center .Eakins needs to get his 4th line to 8-9 minutes . re Boston play like they did in 1st half and we have a shot but play like they did in 2nd half and we go down by 3 or more .

  30. Brackenburied says:

    denny33: VanOil:Jonathan Willis ‏@JonathanWillis 8mFirst media guy to ask Eakins ‘Why is Sam Gagner playing ahead of Arcobello, given his poor defensive play?’ wins everything.***********************************************************************************************Does anyone know if this question was answered by Eakins?

    I don’t think it was asked.

  31. Halfwise says:

    This comment doesn’t bring up anything new, just joins a couple of dots in my head:
    On offence we have the Arco vs Gags discussion. Early days, but the two are similar players with the cheaper one getting better results so far.

    On defence we are starting to hear a Larsen vs JSchultz discussion. Early days, but the two are similar players with the cheaper one getting better results so far.

    In goal, we are starting to hear a Bryz vs DD discussion. Early days, etc.

    What should MacT make of this? Celebrate depth, or play Moneypuck?

    This kind of stuff keeps me coming back to the Comments section of LT.

  32. goldenchild says:

    Like Archo a little more every game, smart, competitive, skilled and makes plays in every zone.

    There is always talk about which forward should be moved for a Dman but you would think any team moving a top pariring D man would want one coming back. At this point wouldnt J.Schultz make sense as a chip to use? He would have lots of appeal, creates offense can QB a PP but still chaos in own end. If you were to use Schultz + Gagner + a pick does that get you someone who is a 25 min no doubt 1st pairing D man? WHile you wont be able to completely replace his offense you can always find 1 dimensional offensive puck moving D men who need to be sheltered 5v5, Larsen fits that mold.

  33. stephen sheps says:

    I have a rant followed by question for the group:

    there has been a collective Gagner bashing as of late, around these parts and others, and perhaps a long-standing critique of his defensive play that is indeed worthy of such a critique. However there are many others who seem to escape this kind of vitriol and resentment yet they do just as many seemingly stupid things in other areas of the ice. One such player is Jordan Eberle, and last night he was guilty of more than a few really boneheaded plays. The shortie Staal scored was more on Ebs’ lazy pass to the middle than on Dubnyk, and Eberle is, quite frankly, really soft on the puck. The offensive zone giveaways and overly cute passing where chances go to die seem to be more frequent with Eberle on the ice than I ever remember seeing. The winning goal he managed to score was just about a missed opportunity, too, as he flubbed the pass twice before settling the puck down. Eberle is a wonderful player, but while everyone is grumbling about Gagner’s deficiencies in the defensive zone, why is nobody really talking (this week at least) about the brutal turnovers in the offensive zone that gives the opposition teams odd-man rushes and fast breaks that seem to kill the team? The third period last night was just brutal for that sort of thing, particularly while on the Oilers were on the power play.

    (apologies to boopronger who had a similar question that I didn’t see before writing…)

  34. RexLibris says:

    Just as a sidenote to some of the “ugly win” narrative from the media.

    Last night the Bruins let the Flames stick around for two periods and only eked out a 2-1 win in the final period.

    The Flames closed the stats gap significantly over the course of the game and Reto Berra was made to look like an NHL goaltender.

    So even though the Oilers came close to losing a game following a 4-1 lead, even the best teams in the league have moments like this and nobody is going to confuse the Oilers with being one of the best teams in this league.

  35. hoser313 says:

    Larsen’s give a crap meter is quite high and I’ll bet that’s why Eakins likes him. The guy constantly tries to push the offence but also strikes me as a guy who tries to take the body precisely because he’s been told in the past he’s too small or too soft. Larsen’s biggest issue to me isn’t his size it’s more that his defensive instincts need to get a little better in his own zone.

    I also think you have to give Eakins some credit for giving the young guys opportunities more so than Renney or Krueger did. Lots of ice time for different players. Big minutes to Larsen. Arcobello. Using Marincin on PP and in overtime 4 on 4. Some coaches wouldn’t do these things. I’d still like to see Lander get some shifts at 3C but I don’t think it will happen with Arcobello playing so well.

  36. G Money says:

    stephen sheps: One such player is Jordan Eberle, and last night he was guilty of more than a few really boneheaded plays.

    In line also with BooPronger‘s question, I would say this:

    - Yes, last night, Eberle and Hall made a number of boneheaded plays, similar to what Gagner is often guilty of

    - That said, Eberle and Hall’s gaffes came after the Oilers had opened up a big lead. To say the team “took their foot off the gas” is an understatement. The team mentally slammed on the brakes, threw the transmission in reverse, then slammed into a concrete wall and burst into flames.

    - As I said in the post game thread, this team gets complacently “fat and happy” faster than any other team I’ve ever seen

    - The reason Gagner takes so much heat is that he makes those sorts of gaffes every game and even when the rest of the team is playing with intensity, while guys like Hall and Eberle are guilty of becoming complacent. Or to put it another way, defensively Hall and Eberle are guilty of getting fat and happy after big wins or after opening up big leads. Gagner is defensively fat and happy all the time.

    - And with all that said – I still cut Gagner a little bit of slack. It seems like it took the rest of the team 20 games to start getting Eakins’ system, and they’re still struggling with it on a nightly basis. Gagner is about 12 games behind the rest of the team; in theory he should start to show better defensively in the next five games if he follows the pattern of the rest of the team. I did notice him backchecking hard early in the game last night.

    - Hall is also behind the curve (Hall’s inability to tilt the ice the way he normally does has been noted a number of times), but he has the wheels to make up for it, Gagner doesn’t.

  37. hoser313 says:

    boopronger,

    stephen sheps,

    As a stereotype, centers are supposed to have better hockey IQs than wingers since the center is usually responsible for more things in the defensive zone.

    If a center misses his coverage in the defensive zone, that’s usually an automatic scoring chance. If a winger throws away the puck in the offensive or neutral zone (last night notwithstanding), that’s not necessarily going to lead to a scoring chance.

    You guys are right though that others deserve blame too. People are forgetting the broken jaw recovery factor too I think.

  38. FastOil says:

    Woodguy,

    “They’ve done against the weaker teams, but remember they’ve all been above the Oilers in the standings.”

    You don’t say :)

  39. TheOtherJohn says:

    GMoney

    With my choice for line of the 2013/14 season so far

    ” As I said in the post game thread, this team gets complacently “fat and happy” faster than any other team I’ve ever seen”

  40. namflashback says:

    The strangeness in the past 3 games is that despite giving away the Flames game, and almost giving away the game against Carolina – the top nine was doing a whole lot better backtracking in the neutral zone. Sadly the d-zone miscues remained, and the same top players were guilty of egregious misses (Eberle risky pass that led to the shortie, Gagner’s missed mark on the Staal goal, Hall giveaway that led to the tying goal).

    If they could straighten out the awful errors, their neutral zone game could be good enough to start helping them win against good teams.

  41. David says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Great find!

    I’ll note though, that if you strip away the filler and just read his quotes and paraphrases thereof, he doesn’t seem to say anything about the Oilers and his future with them other than reflecting on watching his dad play for them when he was a kid and that being drafted by the Oil was surreal.

    I think the good money is on them working things out — the early graduation and the ability to burn a year of ELC gives the Oil a huge advantage… but you never know.

    Agreed. But he does say some nice things about the organization. He a prospect I like so much I’m probably guilty of overvaluing him but it would hurt bad if he left.

  42. maudite says:

    Am I still alone in the give to get mode? J Shultz as part of package to buffalo for erhoff…we have a brace of guys to fill the 3d sheltered role and break in. I’m not sure what junior will be looking to get inked for starting next year, but I’m not overly comfortable thinking about that number.

    Erhoff petry
    Ference belov
    Larsen fedun
    Potter/grebs

    Flush Grebs and potter. Sign fedun, Larsen and belov break in marincin next year.

    I’m not a j Shultz hater I just believe he’s the type of asset you would have to put I to a deal to get erhoff. 25 min of erhoff for next 4 years at 4 mil likely more beneficial than 25 of j Shultz. In that span hopefully the marincin, klef, nurse, Simpson, gernat group plus acquisitions (when present in off season) fill out the rest. I think there is enough there and possessing a true #2a type would go a long way more importantly in the shorter term.

  43. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    David: Agreed. But he does say some nice things about the organization. He a prospect I like so much I’m probably guilty of overvaluing him but it would hurt bad if he left.

    Oh yea. I’ve grown to have real high hopes for him too. I also really hope that means he plays a year in the AHL minimum and enjoys his time there.

  44. David says:

    Let me be the first(?) to promote the Oilers drafting D Aaron Irving this year. Plays for the Oil Kings having a good year, probably will end up being a second round pick but might slip to the third. At the moment nobody really seams to care much about him. Button doesn’t even have him in his top 75, not that that matters at all. I know the Oilers don’t currently have a second round pick but I don’t see that being the case at the draft. All around D brings a little of everything.

    http://www.whl.ca/roster/show/id/10622

    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=84245

  45. danny says:

    Woodguy:
    The corgi’s continue on their run.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wXiUz9UtFo

  46. FastOil says:

    hunter1909,

    I can only have empathy for you if it has come to liking Gagner as a player. Even LT, who likes players as much as their own Dad’s, can’t take it anymore. Be well Hunter.

  47. FastOil says:

    Jujhar: people like to give Gagner, the king of second assists, credit when he doesnt deserve it all the time…

    Gagner is A1 -6 A2- 2 this year. His real suckitude is a goals for % of 34.6. My Grandma could do that. no, she could do better than that. That is how to lose hockey games. Not part of a winning solution.

  48. stephen sheps says:

    G Money,

    I think you’re right about the intensity thing, but by my woefully untrained eye (sociologist, not athlete), the intensity is a part of the Oilers overall game that is lacking. When the boys are down, they can turn on the cycle game and the pressure with 3 minutes to go and look like an honest to goodness real NHL team with (gasp) Real NHL players. But that mentality isn’t there for long stretches of the game.

    I am in complete agreement regarding the problems Gags has in the D-zone, and as a center he needs to be better, but he is who he is and with the right line mates is rather good in the offensive zone. Arco brings the intensity and backs it up with solid positional play and the wherewithal to be in the right place on the ice, and also knows when it’s the right time for a dump and cycle. Joensuu scored last night because of that smart read. I find Eberle, for all of his excellence, still in year 4 doesn’t know how to make those reads. The line about passing the puck into the net that people were saying last night is entirely apt here. The O-zone giveaways seem like the result of being consistently too cute. That is as much of a problem as defensive zone coverage lapses, possibly more if your primary reason for earning the big bucks is to make plays in the offensive zone.

  49. Melman says:

    maudite:
    Am I still alone in the give to get mode?J Shultz as part of package to buffalo for erhoff…we have a brace of guys to fill the 3d sheltered role and break in.I’m not sure what junior will be looking to get inked for starting next year, but I’m not overly comfortable thinking about that number.

    Erhoff petry
    Ference belov
    Larsen fedun
    Potter/grebs

    Flush Grebs and potter.Sign fedun, Larsen and belov break in marincin next year.

    I’m not a j Shultz hater I just believe he’s the type of asset you would have to put I to a deal to get erhoff.25 min of erhoff for next 4 years at 4 mil likely more beneficial than 25 of j Shultz.In that span hopefully the marincin, klef, nurse, Simpson, gernat group plus acquisitions (when present in off season) fill out the rest.I think there is enough there and possessing a true #2a type would go a long way more importantly in the shorter term.

    I’m with you on this. You have to give to get and a team moving a D will likely want one back and J.Schultz probably gets you the most back. With Larsen, Nurse, Klefbom coming I think you can trade Schultz and survive. But if he turns into Brian Leetch your name is mud for the next 3 decades (think Cam Neely). Him and a 1st for Erhoff would give us the immediate help now. It makes sense to deal from the D where we have the most depth.

  50. Old School G says:

    Halfwise:
    This comment doesn’t bring up anything new, just joins a couple of dots in my head:
    On offence we have the Arco vs Gags discussion. Early days, but the two are similar players with the cheaper one getting better results so far.

    On defence we are starting to hear a Larsen vs JSchultz discussion. Early days, but the two are similar players with the cheaper one getting better results so far.

    In goal, we are starting to hear a Bryz vs DD discussion. Early days, etc.

    What should MacT make of this? Celebrate depth, or play Moneypuck?

    This kind of stuff keeps me coming back to the Comments section of LT.

    I like the Moneypuck idea. Strong leaders need to be able to make bold decisions with limited information in order to maximize opportunities for success (not an original thought). Trading Gagner and JSchultz and replacing them with Arco and Larsen is definetely a bold move with limited information. We would have a lot of cap room to work with and we do need it to acquire the six or so pieces we are currently missing.

  51. Caramel Obvious says:

    Other than the obvious good news (team is playing better than it has in years–fantastic coach) here some notes of worry.

    1) The D corps is terrible right now. Ference and Larsen are so, so, so much better than everyone else it is terrifying. Larsen is every bit the find that Arcobello is. Mobility, passing, good decisions, hard on the puck. What’s not to like? The rest of the crew, however, is a walking disaster. Belov has his moments of good but is slow and lumbering, J Schultz is soft and tentative as much with the puck as without, N Schultz has bad hands, while Potter somehow combines all these negative traits.

    2) Yakupov has no idea what he is doing without the puck. This confounds not only his defensive play but his offensive play as well. He runs into space occupied by his own players all the time. How does this happen? And this is without talking about his problems overhandling the puck, which are infuriating.

    Still, things are pointing up. Arcobello is great, Hemsky is great, keep both of them, move Gagner to wing, Lander is much better than Acton, find a couple more D and we’re off and running. The only real problem is that you have to play Yakupov but there isn’t anywhere to play him because he’s such a disaster.

    This is what I would do:

    Perron–Hopkins–Eberle
    Hall–Arcobello–Gagner/Yakupov
    Smyth–Gordon–Hemsky
    Jones–Lander–Gagner/Yakupov

    That’s a playoff worthy forward group. Now to fix the D corps. There I have no good ideas other than the oft repeated trade first round pick for Ehrhoff and then sign a free agent Ference type.

    That gives you:

    Ehrhoff–Petry
    Ference–Larsen
    Free Agent D–J Schultz
    Marincin/Klefbom/Nurse to play the 7 D spot.

  52. Halfwise says:

    Old School G: I like the Moneypuck idea. Strong leaders need to be able to make bold decisions with limited information in order to maximize opportunities for success (not an original thought). Trading Gagner and JSchultz and replacing them with Arco and Larsen is definetely a bold move with limited information. We would have a lot of cap room to work with and we do need it to acquire the six or so pieces we are currently missing.

    Have to give the beleaguered Pro Scouts a nod for Larsen. And if Arco is here because of MacT, good for both of them.

    I am wondering whether Acton and whatsisnametheotherMarlie were on the big club at the beginning of the year just to reduce the number of variables and unknowns that Eakins had to juggle. I have some sympathy for a new coach who arrives at an NHL team and discovers that there is no established NHL defensive ability and somehow it’s his fault.

  53. theres oil in virginia says:

    I thought that after the Oilers built the 4-1 lead, you could see them start selling out for offense to try to make the game a blowout. I didn’t see a lack of intensity, I saw an uncontrollable urge to make the offensive play, even when the safer and smarter play was available. When you’ve got a team down 4-1, they should be the ones pressing and opening themselves up for counter attack, not the other way around. I’m no fan of defensive shell, but you have to protect the lead by making smart plays and jumping on the opportunities that you get.

    The 4-3 goal was a goalie gaffe, in my view, and the team deflated a bit after that. They always deflate after a failed power play anyway. Why the PP players haven’t learned to move and pass quicker by now is confounding. Opponents who press while on PK are much more effective against the Oilers.

  54. theres oil in virginia says:

    Watching the Windows “progress” bar perpetually move across the screen reminds me of an old Atari game in the perpetual loop state after you’ve lost. Space Invaders maybe.

  55. Fixall with Rexall says:

    The power play is absolutely frightening. I’m amazed the last ten went as well as it did. If this team can’t figure out a way to out chance the other team while a man up, we’re doomed. Carolina could have had three shortys easily. That overtime power play looked terrible. There was a 4-5 pass sequence where they were a perfectly symmetrical box where not one person moved even an inch and they just passed it around the perimeter. It’s just looked bad for weeks now. I cringe when they try and enter the zone.

  56. B S says:

    Halfwise: Have to give the beleaguered Pro Scouts a nod for Larsen. And if Arco is here because of MacT, good for both of them.

    I am wondering whether Acton and whatsisnametheotherMarlie were on the big club at the beginning of the year just to reduce the number of variables and unknowns that Eakins had to juggle. I have some sympathy for a new coach who arrives at an NHL team and discovers that there is no established NHL defensive ability and somehow it’s his fault.

    Not his fault, just his responsibility. Though next season it will also be his fault.

  57. maudite says:

    Melman,

    I think J Shultz + 1st is a pretty tall order and would be hesitant to move those chips into the pot too lightly.

    Erhoff has some injury history. His cap hit to dollars owed is a perk that will require payment but I think this is where creativity comes into play a bit as well. Big downside on this is if Erhoff retires, new CBA dictactes the money eaten comes out of buffalo. I think you put a conditional pick in play on this as in if Erhoff retires in X year remaining draft pick X is sent their way (with a sliding scale). I think that softens the blow in anyone’s mind and could mitigate this concern at least in public appearance of deal. While I won’t argue the ceiling of J Shultz is not yet certain, his next contract is already a go big or go home type deal. 1 yr, you give him the ball and leverage of arbitration for final year….longer, you are paying through the nose. I don’t doubt he will have a solid career and could be lights out down the road, I think that should be parlayed into someone that can really push everyone down the batting order. This is my 3 for 1 type deal:

    J Shultz
    2nd tier D prospect (not Klef, Marincin, Nurse)
    Omark (sweetner the guy is a player. We are hell bent on out Sataning his exit out of town and is not zero value)

    With the first, I would be looking to do my damnedest to package it with Hemmer/Gagner and see what it might cost to stab at SC in philly still. I would overpay with those assests to make it happen.

    Next year:

    Hall – SC – Eberle
    Peron/Juss Jokinen (type) – RNH – Yak (softer min heavier PP)
    Peron/Jussi Jokinen (type) – Gordon – Arco/Hem
    JJ/Harti/Smyth – Lander/Arco – Lander/Pitlick/Arco
    Pitlick, Vet C/W

    Erhoff Petry
    Larsen Belov
    Ference Fedun/Marincin
    Fedun

    One 2/3 LW and round out the 4th line. Decide between Fedun/Belov and Larsen in remainder of this year. Acquire what you can without overpay and sign the Fedun/Belov/Larsens you believe you require.

  58. Hammers says:

    Still comes down to McT trading Petry or J.Schultz + an asset for a 26-31 year old all purpose “D” who can play 25 minutes . There out there and part of the deal has to be a potentially top pairing “D” . Our trouble is we need that player now . What teams have that type of “D” who are also rebuilding but are on paper behind us .

  59. Derek says:

    danny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wXiUz9UtFo

    This is a pro-click right here, truly Art has blessed us.

    boopronger:
    How can people rip on gagner but not the rest of the kids? What about halls 2 giveaways in the same play that lead to skinners goal? I think eberle had 4 giveaways himself just on that 5 min power play. Very frustrating game to watch IMO

    In my opinion Gagner takes more heat than the rest of the young cluster because he’s got more experience and he doesn’t bring the same offensive capabilities as the others. Gagners career is now 7 years old and he commits the same defensive miscues he’s been guilty of since day one. One by one the Gagner fans that have been preaching patience since the start of Sams career are starting to turn on him, which has been recently exacerbated by the arrival of one Mark Arcobello who looks good by eye, and by herding dog.

    LT wisely preaches patience with regards to Sam and Mark, where Sam is recovering from injury and Mark needs to establish a track record in the NHL. With the teams recent history, Gagners price tag and upcoming NTC, and Marcobello’s high GAF/60, the situation is going to come to a head sooner rather than later.

    Melman: I’m with you on this.You have to give to get and a team moving a D will likely want one back and J.Schultz probably gets you the most back.With Larsen, Nurse, Klefbom coming I think you can trade Schultz and survive.But if he turns into Brian Leetch your name is mud for the next 3 decades (think Cam Neely).Him and a 1st for Erhoff would give us the immediate help now.It makes sense to deal from the D where we have the most depth.

    Trading Justin Schultz is a very risky proposal. Trading Justin Schultz and a 1st round pick 32 games into the season from a team that sits 27th overall for a 31 year old defenceman is insanity.

    Edit to add: For my money the D target should be Roman Josi, pending a review of his WOWY numbers with Shea Weber. Where does one find WOWY these days?

  60. Fixall with Rexall says:

    I’d give Washington the moon for Carlson. The moon being Yakupov and something else.

  61. Caramel Obvious says:

    Trading J Schultz and the #1 for Ehrhoff is an obvious overpay. I like Ehrhoff as much as anyone but let’s not cut off our nose to spite our face.

  62. Derek says:

    It’s interesting to watch teams like Toronto and Colorado come crashing back down to earth and the subsequent disappearance of shot quality vs quantity arguments around the interweb.

    Meanwhile the 3rd best possession team in the league in SJ has lost their last 5 straight, out shooting their opponents by 20 or more in 2 of those games.

    Lady luck is a fickle mistress, just ask Devan Dubnyk.

  63. Melman says:

    Caramel Obvious:
    Trading J Schultz and the #1 for Ehrhoff is an obvious overpay. I like Ehrhoff as much as anyone but let’s not cut off our nose to spite our face.

    I totally agree, but I don’t think the team can significantly improve it’s D without an overpay be it $ or a combination of players&picks. The advantage of chasing the White Elephant through a trade is that at least you have certainty of acquisition. If Erhoff’s not the guy, that’s fine but a true #1 will cost huge. The advantage of backing up the Brinks truck to Neon Dionne’s house is that you don’t give up and player/picks, but who knows if you can get him to sign no matter how much money you’re willing to pay (although having Elisha Cuthbert in the stands is a bonus and redefines WOWY)

  64. Melman says:

    Derek,

    Haven’t seen much of Josi is he that much different from J. Schultz beyond the extra 60 games of experience?

  65. Old School G says:

    Fixall with Rexall:
    I’d give Washington the moon for Carlson. The moon being Yakupov and something else.

    YES! More Carlson less Ehrhoff! We all have our favorites, Yak is one of mine, but I’m ok with this team going through some major player changes if the result is a more complete, competitive club.

  66. Derek says:

    Melman:
    Derek,

    Haven’t seen much of Josi is he that much different from J. Schultz beyond the extra 60 games of experience?

    Drafted 38th overall in 2008.

    Redline at the draft:

    “Roman Josi may be the best pure passing D-man in the draft. He makes great outlets and is particularly adept at making the long, lead pass to break the trap up the middle for a breakaway. He’s also a smooth skater and very intelligent. One proviso though: he’s probably not going to be selected in the first round simply because NHL clubs are leery of taking Swiss players high unless they show a real commitment about wanting to play in the league. Josi’s club team in Switzerland has already promised him a spot in their top four next season, so he may not be coming over to North America right away.”

    Plays top pairing in NSH with Weber.
    Ozone%: 42.5 (Second toughest on the team)
    Corsi rel: 3.3 (Second best on the team behind the very sheltered Ryan Ellis)
    Corsi ON: -6.26 (Third on the team)
    Named tournament MVP at the 2013 World Hockey Championships.
    Signed at 4 million / yr until the 2019/2020 season.

    To my eyes he’s an excellent 2 way puck mover somewhat similar to Jeff Petry, playing the top pairing in Nashville at the age of 23. How much of that is Shea Weber is tough to say.

    Nashville is strong on D but lacking in the offensive forwards department. We all know what Edmonton needs.

  67. denny33 says:

    stephen sheps,
    I have a rant followed by question for the group:
    there has been a collective Gagner bashing as of late, around these parts and others, and perhaps a long-standing critique of his defensive play that is indeed worthy of such a critique. However there are many others who seem to escape this kind of vitriol and resentment yet they do just as many seemingly stupid things in other areas of the ice. One such player is Jordan Eberle, and last night he was guilty of more than a few really boneheaded plays. The shortie Staal scored was more on Ebs’ lazy pass to the middle than on Dubnyk, and Eberle is, quite frankly, really soft on the puck. The offensive zone giveaways and overly cute passing where chances go to die seem to be more frequent with Eberle on the ice than I ever remember seeing. The winning goal he managed to score was just about a missed opportunity, too, as he flubbed the pass twice before settling the puck down. Eberle is a wonderful player, but while everyone is grumbling about Gagner’s deficiencies in the defensive zone, why is nobody really talking (this week at least) about the brutal turnovers in the offensive zone that gives the opposition teams odd-man rushes and fast breaks that seem to kill the team? The third period last night was just brutal for that sort of thing, particularly while on the Oilers were on the power play.
    (apologies to boopronger who had a similar question that I didn’t see before writing…)
    *******************************************************************************************

    You are right….Taylor Hall in particular ( that has changed somewhat – even in this forum ) has seen more attention brought to his turnovers – even before Cassie Campbell’s piece.

    You missed the renewed debate yesterday about why Taylor will not be on Team Canada this February.

    Last night’s game for Taylor was a near perfect example.

    Taylor might have been the best player on the ice – for both teams.

  68. VanOil says:

    My prescription for this years Blue Condition is adding two D men for next year:

    Ehrhoff-Petry
    Gardnier or Kulikov-Schultz
    Ferrence-Larsen/Fedun

    What ever prospects that remain after achieving this should be getting over ripe in the AHL or CHL. Simpson should be signed and Gernat should have a go at left wing. Having Nurse arrive fully formed from the AHL 2 or 3 years from now would bring me joy. All the more so if it is to help out as an injury replacement on a cup run as PK Subban did.

  69. Thiru says:

    There’s a lot to like about Larsen, IMO.

    He has great speed, and not just straight-away, either. There was a sequence in yesterday’s game where he was using his lateral agility to contain a larger Hurricanes forward along the boards. It was really amazing to see.

    There was another sequence where we had a slow developing breakout in the neutral zone, and Larsen grabbed a tidy pass at full speed and absolutely flew in through the blueline for a shot on goal.

    A lot to like from this player.

  70. jb says:

    No way you sign Christian Ehrhoff to play in a top 2 role and think your solving any problems on this team.

    No doubt we need top 4 depth.. but that isn’t the answer. We need a Phaneuf. We need a perfectly projected Nurse in 5 years, cloned 4 times. Right now.

    The D-core seems to be so far behind the fowards it’s kinda concerning.

  71. prairieschooner says:

    Perhaps LT would do an in depth analysis of Number 1 stud Dmen
    How many actually exist?
    Where are they playing?
    Which of them are available?
    Are we dreaming that we will actually get one?

  72. FastOil says:

    Derek: Drafted 38th overall in 2008.

    Redline at the draft:

    Plays top pairing in NSH with Weber.
    Ozone%: 42.5 (Second toughest on the team)
    Corsi rel: 3.3 (Second best on the team behind the very sheltered Ryan Ellis)
    Corsi ON: -6.26 (Third on the team)
    Named tournament MVP at the 2013 World Hockey Championships.
    Signed at 4 million / yr until the 2019/2020 season.

    To my eyes he’s an excellent 2 way puck mover somewhat similar to Jeff Petry, playing the top pairing in Nashville at the age of 23.How much of that is Shea Weber is tough to say.

    Nashville is strong on D but lacking in the offensive forwards department.We all know what Edmonton needs.

    Does Edmonton need another small puck mover or another Smid except who can pass? The D corp needs some nasty, the front of the net is too safe a place right now.

    I don’t condone size that can’t play, still even the non goon teams have tougher D than the Oilers do. Hawks, Sharks, and Wings have a mix of skill and snarl on D. The Oilers now have Ference for snarl and are a small D corp averaging 195lbs (Hawks 204, Sharks 205, Wings 205). Typical Oilers swinging from one extreme to the other.

    Belov I think has it in him but it remains to be seen if he sticks in the NHL. The chaos may not go away or he might prefer being a big fish in the KHL than a 6-7 here for way less money. Only the Oilers would be playing him with how it’s gone. Well maybe the Pens too.

  73. commonfan14 says:

    As long as we’re fake-trading with Buffalo here, I’d like to add a rider that we also throw in something else and try to get the conditional 1st rounder they got from the Islanders in the Vanek deal as well.

    Snow and co. are almost certainly short-sighted enough to defer that pick to 2015, betting that there’s no way they’ll still be bad enough a year from now to be in the running for McDavid.

    That’s a bet I want to make.

  74. SoCaloil says:

    B S,

    B S.

    I didn’t watch the first and that doesn’t deter from my point.
    You must win pucks along the boards for a full 60 and not some random part of the game
    And what’s worse. Canes adjusted their game and oil both didn’t and couldn’t handle the pressure. And that was nowhere near playoff pressure

  75. spoiler says:

    Derek: It’s interesting to watch teams like Toronto and Colorado come crashing back down to earth and the subsequent disappearance of shot quality vs quantity arguments around the interweb.

    Meanwhile the 3rd best possession team in the league in SJ has lost their last 5 straight, out shooting their opponents by 20 or more in 2 of those games.

    Lady luck is a fickle mistress, just ask Devan Dubnyk.

    Having been trained in a Deterministic World, I have determined that I really live in a Stochastic World.

    …And I think I’m probably right too.

  76. Colieo87 says:

    Any chance the oilers have a chance against the big bad Bruins. Is if Bachmann in net. Dubbie is done. I want him gone.

  77. Robinthe403 says:

    In reading various media outlets, blogs and twitter I see the ” SIGN PHANEUF AS A UFA THIS SUMMER” idea is picking up steam and is being floated around like a bonafide solution for our acquisition for a true #1LHD. Question or reality check: Who in their right mind thinks that ELISHA PHANEUF CUTHBERT would be willing to live in EDM 8 months of the year so that the Oilers can pay her husband 8.5m x 7yrs?!!

    No chance. Zip. Nada. Niet. Ain’t happening.

  78. Caramel Obvious says:

    jb:
    No way you sign Christian Ehrhoff to play in a top 2 role and think your solving any problems on this team.

    No doubt we need top 4 depth.. but that isn’t the answer.We need a Phaneuf. We need a perfectly projected Nurse in 5 years, cloned 4 times. Right now.

    The D-core seems to be so far behind the fowards it’s kinda concerning.

    Except Ehrhoff is a much better player than Phaneuf.

  79. Lowetide says:

    Caramel Obvious: Except Ehrhoff is a much better player than Phaneuf.

    True.

  80. theres oil in virginia says:

    spoiler: Having been trained in a Deterministic World, I have determined that I really live in a Stochastic World.
    …And I think I’m probably right too.

    I learned today that even the bits stored on a hard drive are not deterministically guaranteed to be set the way you think they are, and that it’s really just probability at or near the quantum scale. (I don’t think that this is even taking into account “random” bit reversals.) I don’t even fully understand it, and it’s a little disconcerting. I wonder if a fuller understanding would make me more or less comfortable about it. Every time I learn about how something works, I learn that it’s not quite how I thought it would work. Every time I gain more perspective, I wish I hadn’t. Oh well, at least there’s wine.

  81. Woodguy says:

    Derek,

    This is a pro-click right here, truly Art has blessed us.

    Art is like an angry god isn’t he?

    Comes down once in a while, tells you why you’re wrong and leaves.

  82. maudite says:

    Nasty and tough are a very far cry from solid positionally and proven to push puck in right direction more often than not.

    Erhoff >> dion. Have you watched much hockey in the past couple years? The Derain hatchet days of constant cross checks and mugging are long gone. There is some corner work still in the game but the biggest thing is smartly controlling the space in front of your net. News flash, this is not done by thunderous body checks or rampant abuse anymore. Not against grit but gap control, positioning and intelligent stick work and positioning are the first things one should be looking at for defense.

  83. fifthcartel says:

    I pretty much consider Ehrhoff a guaranteed future Oiler with how much he is discussed here.

    Now to find what number he is going to wear, 10?

  84. Lois Lowe says:

    Corgi is probably the best thing to happen to this community since I have been following it. It’s a home grown meme that we can all get herded by.

    Kudos Art! You finally gave something of value to Lowetide.

  85. gcw_rocks says:

    Some minor tweaks to LT’s line up. I don’t think there is any way in hell Dubnyk comes back:

    Ilya Bryzgalov $3.00
    Ben Scrivens $3.00

    Christian Ehrhoff $4.00
    Justin Schultz $4.00
    Jeff Petry $3.50
    Andrew Ference $3.50
    Dion Phanuef $7.50
    Taylor Fedun $0.80
    Anton Belov $2.00

    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins $6.00
    Boyd Gordon $3.00
    Mikhail Grabovski $4.00
    Mark Arcobello $1.20
    Anton Lander $0.80
    Taylor Hall $6.00
    David Perron $3.80
    Roman Horak $0.80
    Daneil Winnik $2.20
    Luke Gazdic $0.64
    Jordan Eberle $6.00
    Nail Yakupov $2.85
    Tyler Pitlick $0.80
    Total $69.39

    Taylor Hall - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Jordan Eberle
    David Perron - Mikhail Grabovski - Nail Yakupov
    Mark Arcobello – Boyd Gordon – Daneil Winnik
    Roman Horak - Anton Lander - Tyler Pitlick

    Christian Ehrhoff – Dion Phanuef
    Andrew Ference — Jeff Petry
    Anton Belov - Justin Schultz

    Scrivens

    The second and third line could take on tough competition, allowing the young guns to run rampant over second toughs and soft minutes. The fourth line is risky because it is so young.

    The top pairing can play toughs, the second pairing would do ok against second toughs and Belov and Schultz can be sheltered. All for $69.4M

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