BRUINS AT OILERS, G33 13-14

The Bruins were my team as a kid. The adults had the Leafs and their old timey haircuts, there were people who were Montreal fans (we didn’t see them much) and some Detroit Red Wings fans. I don’t remember a Bruin fan who had a real job, but man all the kids loved Bobby Orr. My Dad didn’t like the Bruins, they were “hoods” and “hippies” and “long hairs” and I had all of their hockey cards (Orr was way at the back, because the rotation was line 1 C-L-R, line 2 C-L-R, etc so it was Esposito-Cashman-Hodge; Stanfield-Bucyk-McKenzie and on it went. Orr and Dallas Smith were the first defensemen, then the rest of the D and Cheevers-Johnston). I love those old Boston black uniforms, they’re wonderful, although the Chicago red and the Detroit red are also very cool.

orr7We’re going to see a devastating defenseman tonight. Zdeno Chara continues a tradition that has seen the Boston Bruins boast many great defensemen in NHL history (Eddie Shore, Bobby Orr, Raymond Bourque) and Chara is possibly the best defenseman of his generation. Among recently-active defensemen who are in a HHOF discussion, I would rank Chara behind only Pronger and ahead of Gonchar, Dan Boyle and Roman Hamrlik, Kimmo Timonen and Ed Jovanovski. I expect that Pronger, Chara, Gonchar and Boyle eventually make it in.

The Oilers have one defenseman (Coffey) and one goalie (Fuhr) in the Hall, but the heart of greatness in Edmonton was in the forwards (Gretzky, Kurri, Messier, Anderson). I think Kevin Lowe makes it in eventually.

nurse1Darnell Nurse is the great hope for the future, and he’s tracking very well in the OHL this season. His NHLE is 82, 7-19-26 and that’s a very fine number, plus the reports we’re hearing this year are positive. The WJ oversight is a down arrow, but for me this is a guy who the Oilers should think about leaving in junior for another season. Give the club a chance to develop Marincin and Klefbom (or trade them) and have Nurse arrive in the NHL when the Oilers have their stuff together. No hurry. It worked for Larry freaking Robinson.

nuge gets knocked downIt’s going to be a tough night for the Oilers, especially a young center like Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. The club they are facing is built to physically intimidate and to win battles, whereas RNH is about anticipation and finesse. When he’s 25 this will be a different fight, but tonight my friends this is unlikely to go well. If the Nuge comes out of this game -2 or less, that should be considered a victory. Sam Gagner could get lit on fire. Ordinarily, I enter a game like tonight with at least some hope, but after the Chicago game I think we have to agree that the next three games could be 0-3 even if the young Oil play well.

They’re not yet good enough. Full stop. You give RNH another two  years, and more help? This thing is going to go big (providing they can find the right 6′s and 7′s and 9′s).

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Andrew Ference is an interesting guy to listen to, he’s not just your average jock quote. Joanne Ireland had a nice write up  on him yesterday, and it included a quote we should probably remember later tonight:

  • Ference:  “You see parallels (to Boston) here. Management has brought in a coach who is going to hold everybody’s feet to the fire and implement a system he wants played here. In my shoes, looking at it, I’m saying well hopefully this is the same process we’re going through. As long as we stick with it and have the right personnel, there’s no reason we can’t take the same path as the Bruins have.”

Not everyone who plays for the Oilers tonight will be here when the good times roll. The year Ference arrived Boston tried 5 goalies and 14 defensemen and turned over much of the roster in following seasons. Looking at that roster there are so many familiar names (Tim Thomas, Chara, Patrice Bergeron, David Krejci) but also a large number of castoffs (Marco Sturm, Glen Murray, Paul Mara, Shean Donovan, Mark Mowers, Jason York) it makes one realize many of the players skating for the Oilers now won’t be here three years from now.

TRADE DEADLINE

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Speaking of players moving, I keep wondering about the deadline and which players will be heading out. I keep coming back to the new GM/coach and what they’ve said and done in regard to the current players. Ales Hemsky was Dead Man Walking under the previous regime, I don’t think Steve Tambellini had much time for him and do believe Kevin Lowe was the major reason 83 still walks these streets. Does that mean Hemsky will get another contract? I think it’s possible. Would that mean trading another RW? Not necessarily.

  • C: RNH,  Gagner, Gordon
  • L: Hall, Perron, Kulemin
  • R: Eberle, Yakupov, Hemsky

I can see something like this happening, although Gagner’s wonky center play would have to be improved. Anyway, I’ve always felt Hemsky would be in play and that’s likely true now, but if you check out which way the wind blows it seems to me Hemmer is inside and Dubnyk is outside.

ROOKIE COACH

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Dallas Eakins had a candid conversation with Terry Jones and the article is here. We’ve talked at length about the trials of bringing in a new coach and a rookie to the position, and Eakins basically says the same thing here. Good job by Jones.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

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It’s a big night and a busy show this morning. At 10 on TSN 1260 I’ll be joined by:

  • Rob Soria from Oil Drop. We’ll talk about Dubnyk and Gagner and their future in Edmonton.
  • Alex Thomas from Oilers Rig. Oilers and Bruins, plus HOW does a guy from Woburn, Massachusetts end up being an Oiler fan.
  • Sarah Connors from Stanley Cup of Chowder. We’ll talk Bruins and life after Tyler Seguin.

10-1260 via text, @Lowetide_ and Connor Halley will have the NFL picture.

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  1. RexLibris says:

    Rebilled,

    Has Perron scored yet?

  2. Kris11 says:

    Perron has scored

  3. RexLibris says:

    Noticed that Blainville won a 7-4 rout today, but Roy wasn’t dressed. Did I miss a WJC announcement, or is he injured again?

    Also, had a look at his points and he’s got 15pts in 13gp, but of his 3 goals 2 have come on the PP. I find this a bit concerning.

  4. Henry says:

    The Bs are serving it up four times this period. Oilers not making them pay yet.

  5. RexLibris says:

    Kris11,

    So, just to confirm.

    Perron has scored.

    Can we go to print with this?

    Have you checked the sources?

    Are we certain Nixon hasn’t erased the tapes of Perron scoring?

  6. Gerta Rauss says:

    RexLibris,

    I heard concussion a few days ago…don’t have an update

  7. Gerta Rauss says:

    One more for the good guys before the period ends might make this a hockey game.

  8. Kris11 says:

    Not sure. I will check. After that whole WMD thing, I have to double check my sources.

  9. bookje says:

    So, did the fight re-energize the Oilers after Dubnyk made them all melancholy and listless?

  10. RexLibris says:

    By math the Oilers are hanging in against these Bruins. CF is 50.8 to 49.2 Bruins. Fenwick is a little further apart, but only by about four shots.

    So, we’re back to goaltending letting a good game go to waste. Good, I’m familiar with this script so I can improvise on the fly.

  11. Gerta Rauss says:

    thank you sir…what a hockey player

  12. Rebilled says:

    Perron scored again!

  13. Henry says:

    What a goal by Perron. hemmer couldn’t have done that better.

  14. Numenius says:

    Perron has scored.

  15. Kitchener says:

    YES!

  16. bookje says:

    MacT found gold with Perron. I admit great shame about being critical about that trade at first.

  17. kooler says:

    kid has hands….can we get a couple more perrons?

  18. Kris11 says:

    BREAKING: Sources say Perron has scored again. Film at 11:00.

  19. Well Oiled and Enthusiastic says:

    Order up some more Perron’s. that’s how hockey is played.

  20. RexLibris says:

    Kris11:
    Not sure. I will check. After that whole WMD thing, I have to double check my sources.

    Indeed. Is this Perron goal a known known, or more of a known unknown? Could the scoring of Perron be most adequately described by referring to the Schroedinger paradox – so long as the boxscore remains unobserved, it is the case that Perron has both scored and not scored.

    Did I mention that I’m delaying going out and shovellng some more?

  21. wintoon says:

    Every player on the team knew this game was important. Yet Dubnyk lets a floater in from the blueline and breaks the spirit of his own team. The worst part of this is that this is not the first “softie” he has let in. If MacT and Lowe do not immediately start the wheels in motion to acquire a bona fide #1 Goalie then they are terminally stupid.

    Oiler fans and the other Oiler players deserve better than this.

  22. VanOil says:

    The smartest thing Boston could do right now is take a penalty.

  23. RexLibris says:

    This slightly unbalanced thread seems to be paying off.

    Apparently the Hockey Gods have a sense of humour…and it is absurd. I knew there was a reason I liked this sport.

  24. striatic says:

    This team does not deserve Perron.

    Though, it isn’t like St. Louis is worse off for having traded him. I do wonder about that, but I guess Steen’s shooting percentage accounts for any production they might have lost from Perron.

  25. Numenius says:

    VanOil:
    The smartest thing Boston could do right now is take a penalty.

    Nooooo!

  26. Gerta Rauss says:

    Nice second period.

    Now I’m going to make some soup.

  27. bookje says:

    wintoon,

    The goal didn’t break their spirit, it reduced their chance of winning because games are scored by goals. Letting goals in is bad because it costs you the game, not because it makes players sad.

  28. Kris11 says:

    I think we need to give the inspectors and Hans Blix a few more months before we conclude anything about how many goals have or haven’t been scored by David Perron.

  29. TeeVee says:

    Can we please get rid of Dubnyk and add another Perron, please?

    Thanks.

  30. Kris11 says:

    Yeah, I am still willing to believe Dubnyk is a decent goaltender based on his long term ESV%, but he is starting to assemble a fairly large sample of suck that is increasingly indicating a goalie who has lost it.

  31. Kris11 says:

    I do think Labarbera is worth a chance.

  32. Rebilled says:

    striatic,

    Yeah, but Perron definitely scored.

  33. Minister D- says:

    There’s been a lot of handwringing, some of it justified, about Hall not being considered for team Canada. When does Perron enter into this conversation? If Hall has a weird stink about him (again, not entirely justified), Perron would seem to fit the TC narrative a bit better: physical, great hands, an irritant. Why don’t we start backing this horse?

  34. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Who is ElBaradei in this extended Perron metaphor?

  35. Lowetide says:

    Perron could be better. Kind of a lollygagger and he skates funny.

    In all seriousness, I’m not making any more jokes about the French because of him. Amazing.

  36. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Oh, someone posted about Roy the other day, concussion, out likely a month or so. (crap!)

    Houck has been sitting out with a suspension, which I think is now over.

  37. magisterrex says:

    Kris11,

    Completely agree. This is somehow Horcoff’s fault.

  38. RexLibris says:

    Rebilled:
    striatic,

    Yeah, but Perron definitely scored.

    We have satellite imagery distinctly showing the before and after photos of something that bears an extremely high probability of being a Perron scoring event.

    Our boys at Langley have analyzed this and have signed off, therefore, without further ado I would like to christen Perron’s two goals…Shock and Awe!

    In the event of a third goal by Perron it will be contracted out to Blackwater.

  39. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide: Perron could be better. Kind of a lollygagger and his skates are funny.

    Fixed it for you there.

  40. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    magisterrex:
    Kris11,

    Completely agree. This is somehow Horcoff’s fault.

    I’m pretty sure fault lies with Cory Cross.

  41. RexLibris says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Who is ElBaradei in this extended Perron metaphor?

    Oooh, good one.

    I’d go with the mysterious analysis guys that MacTavish referred to. It doesn’t mesh completely, but we’re thinking on our proverbial feet here.

  42. RexLibris says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Oh, someone posted about Roy the other day, concussion, out likely a month or so. (crap!)

    Houck has been sitting out with a suspension, which I think is now over.

    Thanks.

    Roy is going to be one of “those picks”, isn’t he. Our own Joey Hishon.

    I hope not, but a bum knee and a concussion this early. Bad news.

  43. RexLibris says:

    magisterrex,

    Bring back the knuckle. We can enshrine it with the other holy relics like Semenko’s beard comb, Messier’s elbow pads and Tikkanen’s mouthguard.

  44. pboy says:

    Yak’s positioning is so much better now. He’s really improving. Gagner is absolute shit. Again.

    I really hope MacT is smart enough to know that Gagner isn’t the solution here.

  45. D says:

    Doug Jarvis not happy with Bruins’ second period. Good interview on the Boston feed.

  46. wintoon says:

    Bookje breaking ones spirit doesn’t make you sad. It creates an emotional let down which makes it more difficult to compete and overcome adversity. The key factor is that
    Dubnyk has done it again and the Oilers need someone they can rely on. It aint him.

  47. RexLibris says:

    Flames and ‘Canes going to OT.

    McGrattan scored for the Flames. I wonder if Burke gives him an extension tomorrow.

  48. hags9k says:

    Wow Frenchman!!
    Oh man I want this one.

    LETS GO OILERS!
    clap clap clap clap clap

  49. Brackenburied says:

    Hall has not looked good tonight,right? Injured? Sick?

  50. Lowetide says:

    Brackenburied:
    Hall has not looked good tonight,right?

    nope.

  51. pboy says:

    Lowetide: nope.

    Not a strong game by Hall but Gagner is hurting his team. Coach Eakins should do that thing where he gives this player some press box time in Vancouver to see the ice differently.

  52. bookje says:

    wintoon:
    Bookje breaking ones spirit doesn’t make you sad. It creates an emotional let down which makes it more difficult to compete and overcome adversity. The key factor is that
    Dubnyk has done it again and the Oilers need someone they can rely on. It aint him.

    The adversity is the goal that was just scored. That someone would prefer a .900 goalie who looks better is irrational.

  53. pboy says:

    Arco is very, very good at separating his guy from the puck.

  54. VanOil says:

    Oh no

  55. Brackenburied says:

    Hall’s not even remotely thinking shot there!! Put Yak there.

  56. VanOil says:

    Joensuu getting destroyed in front of the net reminded me of Craig Simpson. I thought they only allowed that sort of 80s violence in the Playoffs. #6 did his job well.

  57. Rebilled says:

    RexLibris,

    It’s tough seeing Perron scoring from sat photos. My Perron scores rally cap is on though.

  58. Pouzar says:

    bookje: If MacT believed Dubnyk would continue to post .920, he would not have been looking to trade him.

    Letting in less goals is the most important thing for a goalie.

    Imagine saying a goal scorer gets lots of soft goals, it’s nonsense.I have no problem saying Dubnyk is not good enough this year because he is not stopping enough pucks.If you think it’s because he looks bad on some goals as opposed to the actual goals well…so can’t argue that kind of ‘logic’

    So you wanted me to say that DD’s save % was not sustainable then? Gotcha. I agree with MacT.

  59. Kitchener says:

    We’re a bounce away from a tie, but the last 35 minutes have been solid hockey.

  60. VanOil says:

    Rebilled:
    RexLibris,

    It’s tough seeing Perron scoring from sat photos. My Perron scores rally cap is on though.

    When Yak launches a rocket ship you can see it from space. He just does not do it enough.

  61. Henry says:

    I hope the Oilers take the game they’ve played in the second and third to Vancouver.

    And that they be careful with Gagner’s playing time.

    And I hope Gazdic meets Kassian.

  62. nez29 says:

    Even if they lose, much better effort tonight…..but Gagner still sucks.

  63. Pouzar says:

    bookje:
    wintoon,

    The goal didn’t break their spirit, it reduced their chance of winning because games are scored by goals.Letting goals in is bad because it costs you the game, not because it makes players sad.

    Wow.

  64. pboy says:

    I can’t remember the last time Eberle shot the puck so much and dangled so infrequently. He was brutal on the short handed goal but he’s been pretty good outside of that.

  65. RexLibris says:

    Rex 1 Snow 0

    The fenwick was admirable and the Corgis were running away with it.

  66. D says:

    Why is Larsen out there?

  67. RexLibris says:

    Just updated ES and the Oilers are leading in FF% and CF% by a growing margin.

    Hallelujah! It may still night but I can see daylight from here.

  68. Lucinius says:

    Powerplay costs the Oilers another game. Goaltending with the assist.

  69. VanOil says:

    RexLibris:
    Rex 1 Snow 0

    The fenwick was admirable and the Corgis were running away with it.

    But Meatloaf is a fat little bastard and needs a few more laps.

  70. kooler says:

    Nice try guys…see you here in vancouver tomorrow.

  71. jake70 says:

    Good job Dubnyk on goal #1. They played great tonight I thought overall.

  72. OilBuzz says:

    Gagner refusing to shoot, constantly passing it to the corner. FUCK

  73. Lowetide says:

    Good game. One of these games will be Dubnyk’s last.

  74. bookje says:

    Great 2 periods of hockey though.

  75. linkfromhyrule says:

    well it was a valiant effort I guess. Man our powerplay looks atrocious at times. Has it been like this all game? Just tuned in half way through the third.

    On a side note though, outshooting the boston bruins by over 10 shots isn’t nothing.

  76. D says:

    Wonder how many more games Dubnyk loses for us before the Oil ships him out to . . . anywhere.

  77. hags9k says:

    Damn. Good effort. A few passengers. A game that could have yeilded some serious momentum slides through the fingers. We need a killer in the top six.

  78. RexLibris says:

    As I see it the Oilers hung in there with one of the best (albeit undermanned) teams in the league.

    What’s that line from Rudy?

    Seems appropriate here.

  79. LMHF#1 says:

    Outgoaltended. That’s it.

  80. bookje says:

    Lowetide:
    Good game. One of these games will be Dubnyk’s last.

    LaBarbara gets the nod until he has a stinker.

  81. Henry says:

    D:
    Why is Larsen out there?

    He likes to shoot into the shinpads of the guy in front of him, of course.

    Schultz is in the doghouse?

    I don’t get it either.

  82. striatic says:

    So what’s the story on Bryzgalov coming back?

  83. Pouzar says:

    After we went down 3-0 all I hoped for was some push back and a close game. We got. We were a goal post from OT.

  84. Lucinius says:

    LMHF#1,

    Don’t forget the powerplay. Goal against and couldn’t pot one. Double whammy. Had the chances, but as usual they tried to pass the puck into the net. And the system itself is bad. No one-timers, really, which makes it very easy to defend; you collapse, then challenge the half-board. Again and again. All the Bruins had to do, and they did.

  85. Rondo says:

    Boston took a 3-0 lead and mailed it in, that was not their A game. This is the game before Vancouver for Boston.

  86. nycoil says:

    So close to getting over some kind of meaningful hump. So painful that they keep shooting themselves in the foot with special teams and goaltending. Just so frustrating. Can see the light at the end of the tunnel but running out of air before they can run through to the other side.

  87. Rebilled says:

    Jason Takes Boston. Would have been a different score line.

  88. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    6 is looking a lot better the last couple of games.

    The sample sizes of good and bad and total games as an Oiler are all too small to get a sense what this player is… but the mere fact that he can repeat something of the good play from preseason and that first game… good sign.

    26 and 93′s lines were on fire. 89 and 51′s lines were in trouble all night.

  89. Lowetide says:

    Marincin gets sent down to OKC. Good move, they gave him a look and he did well. When he comes back, suspect he gets 10 games or so and then he might just hang around awhile.

  90. Fixall with Rexall says:

    Love the Boston feed.

    “And Iginla who is beautifully hated here in Edmonton sticks it to the Oilers”

    And they use the word “wicked” a lot. They call a fun game.

  91. Bar_Qu says:

    The PP needs to be fixed, full stop.

  92. Rondo says:

    Oilers have no more meaningful games left this season. They are out of the playoffs.

  93. Oilanderp says:

    I have no idea why Paajarvi was wearing Lander’s old jersey, but he played great!

  94. VanOil says:

    Toronto has not won in regulation in its last 12 games

    I still like the idea of Gagner for Gardnier

  95. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    Marincin gets sent down to OKC. Good move, they gave him a look and he did well. When he comes back, suspect he gets 10 games or so and then he might just hang around awhile.

    Is that common, sending a guy down mid-game?

    At any rate, I’m guessing that means someone is coming off of IR and Potter is OK for fill in duty if needed.

  96. B S says:

    Rondo:
    Oilers have no more meaningfulgames left this season. They are out of the playoffs.

    I wasn’t going to bother commenting tonight, but this kept me chuckling for a solid 10 minutes. Thank you.

  97. Lowetide says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Is that common, sending a guy down mid-game?

    At any rate, I’m guessing that means someone is coming off of IR and Potter is OK for fill in duty if needed.

    Sure, I don’t think there’s anything uncommon about it. Probably told him earlier in the day and made the transaction, but the PR guy was hammering out the release during the game. Those guys work hard.

  98. Nuckout says:

    I’m really surprised how Labarbs came up big tonight. 2 periods scoreless is a good comeback. He’s gone once Bryz is back. Our goal depth is stronger, considering we have 3 that are ready to go as backup. I hope we see Bachmans play continue well because I still don’t have faith in barbs.

  99. Andy P says:

    bookje: The adversity is the goal that was just scored. That someone would prefer a .900 goalie who looks better is irrational.

    Hi Bookje,
    Maybe we can settle this by looking at the YTD save %’s for DD, Bryz, BTO, and La Babara Streisand.
    Then for DD look at what the scores would have been for the games he played this year, had he maintained his prior career average. From that we can get:
    1) An ordering of the goalies by save % for this year; and
    2) An understanding of how many games we lost this year due to his decreased save % from last year.
    With that information we can all have a more factual discussion on this and then move on.

  100. Lowetide says:

    Andy P: Hi Bookje,
    Maybe we can settle this by looking at the YTD save %’s for DD, Bryz, BTO, and La Babara Streisand.
    Then for DD look at what the scores would have been for the games he played this year, had he maintained his prior career average. From that we can get:
    1) An ordering of the goalies by save % for this year; and
    2) An understanding of how many games we lost this year due to his decreased save % from last year.
    With that information we can all have a more factual discussion on this and then move on.

    Sample size is too small. DD could end up with a SP this year of .896 and then rebound next season to .917 and that’s still the same player. Just like batting averages. Sometimes they drop in and sometimes they find leather.

  101. Henry says:

    Lowetide: Sample size is too small. DD could end up with a SP this year of .896 and then rebound next season to .917 and that’s still the same player. Just like batting averages. Sometimes they drop in and sometimes they find leather.

    You know as a very serious baseball fan I get that, but I’m not sure it is the case with DD. But DD is having some braincramps that baffle me. I don’t get it though because he always seemed like a smart, solid worker that takes his job seriously.

    This year has some anomalies exemplified by the first goal tonight. It’s like he’s Mike Schmidt and can’t hit a hanging slider.

    I think he is a good goalie with something wrong that is making him not the same player. It is why I don’t want to toss him overboard yet. Whatever is wrong may be soluble. A coaching and management problem.

  102. Andy P says:

    Ok here we go
    Bryz .939
    BTO .916
    DD .890
    JLB .870

    JLB was already sent down so for now DD is our 3rd string goalie.

    I’ll say again that this DD is a nice fellow, I don’t doubt his effort, I don’t contest that he has been hung out to dry quite a lot which makes hi the last line of defense, but I do think there is merit in him being a classical big butterfly goalie, who is an athletic person but has been bypassed by the game.

    That’s why they get paid millions a year, to stop the highest number of goals possible.

    Disclaimer: I do not claim to be an expert, just a person with some common sense and an interest in Hockey and the Oilers.

  103. Ribs says:

    Fun game, despite the loss (may be the vodka talking).

    Dubnyk made some crazy good saves before letting in that knuckler.

    Larsen looked like maybe he found the hidden cabinet beneath Grebeshkov’s old seat in the dressing room before the game.

    Gazdic-Lucic fight was great. Gazdic can probably retire now.

    Perron for Paajarvi looks like the second best trade in Oilers history after this game. I just love his effort level. They showed the graphic of him and Gagner being drafted in the same year and it really made me wonder about Gagner’s progression. Perron listed as slightly lighter by Hockey News and he looks twice as big out there due to his grittiness. I’m still gonna cheer for Gagner because he has a lot of character but I now worry about what his top level may be. Perron is a bit older but damn. What a difference.

    Iginla giving it to us in nothing games…Classic Iggy.

    When guys play over 20 minute a night in the NHL, they start to show their warts. Eakins – take note (NOW).

    Hall -4. Ouch (won’t mention Gagner -4, oops).

    I think Arcobello hurt someone pretty good by finishing his check (clean). I never would have guessed it in a million years, but he may be the Pisani we’ve been looking for. Stepping Up appears to be his mantra.

    This is a game where Ryan Jones pots you one. Too bad Eakins hasn’t seen that yet.

    Hemsky! i was hoping for a goal from him tonight, but it never came. Ah well.

    Nuge with a sneaky +2 playing over 20 minutes. I wonder if he becomes a Patrice Bergeron down the road. Not a Sakic, but pretty damned good.

    Yakupov – Clearly not part of the group. I’m not sure how you get him properly integrated. Trade for someone that connects with him/doesn’t suck? Wait it out? He seems like he really wants to score and win but the team connection is missing. Hopefully I’m reading too much into it.

  104. Pouzar says:

    Lowetide: Sample size is too small. DD could end up with a SP this year of .896 and then rebound next season to .917 and that’s still the same player. Just like batting averages. Sometimes they drop in and sometimes they find leather.

    LT, The most games DD has played in a season is 47(164 for his career). I agree. The sample size it too small. ;)

  105. fifthcartel says:

    ” If the Nuge comes out of this game -2 or less, that should be considered a victory.”

    RNH +2 on the night, victory?

  106. Andy P says:

    Lowetide: Sample size is too small. DD could end up with a SP this year of .896 and then rebound next season to .917 and that’s still the same player. Just like batting averages. Sometimes they drop in and sometimes they find leather.

    Hey LT,
    Maybe it just boils down to opinions based on perception. I don’t have enough history to debate this any further, just that the inadequate sample sizes handily appear to support a personal perception, right or wrong, that DD has lost his game for now, whether or not he ever gets it back.

  107. Lowetide says:

    Henry: You know as a very serious baseball fan I get that, but I’m not sure it is the case with DD.But DD is having some braincramps that baffle me. I don’t get it though because he always seemed like a smart, solid worker that takes his job seriously.

    This year has some anomalies exemplified by the first goal tonight.It’s like he’s Mike Schmidt and can’t hit a hanging slider.

    I think he is a good goalie with something wrong that is making him not the same player.It is why I don’t want to toss him overboard yet.Whatever is wrong may be soluble.A coaching and management problem.

    Or an equipment problem, as stated above.

  108. Lowetide says:

    fifthcartel:
    ” If the Nuge comes out of this game -2 or less, that should be considered a victory.”

    RNH +2 on the night, victory?

    I thought he was fabulous. Honestly, he’s a little bit astonishing.

  109. Lowetide says:

    Andy P: Hey LT,
    Maybe it just boils down to opinions based on perception. I don’t have enough history to debate this any further, just that the inadequate sample sizes handily appear to support a personal perception, right or wrong, thatDD has lost his game for now, whether or not he ever gets it back.

    We could both be right. I could be right that DD is a .916 goalie and you could be right that he’s lost his game for now. The equipment change for this season could have done a number on him, and maybe he doesn’t get it back until next season.

  110. Kitchener says:

    Now that Iginla’s no longer a Flame *spit* it’s fair to say out loud:

    He is an absolute gem of a player. A++. Perhaps the player of the decade with how he led those garbage Flames for years. Balanced. Real. Canadian. Edmonton-born. And on and on.

  111. VanOil says:

    Lowetide: Or an equipment problem, as stated above.

    Not only is Goalie equipment getting smaller but sticks are getting better. Could you imagine what Kurri could of done with one of these knew twigs. Picking that top shelf is getting in easier just like swinging the tennis racket, arcing those skis and driving those golf balls.

  112. Andy P says:

    Lowetide: We could both be right. I could be right that DD is a .916 goalie and you could be right that he’s lost his game for now. The equipment change for this season could have done a number on him, and maybe he doesn’t get it back until next season.

    Based on what we know and have seen of MacT, we’ll likely discover the truth next year by playing against him, don’t you think?

  113. Lowetide says:

    Andy P: Based on what we know and have seen of MacT, we’ll likely discover the truth next year by playing against him, don’t you think?

    Yes. I think MacT is a very smart man, certainly smarter than me, but I don’t think he’s going all-in with Dubnyk. He’ll keep his powder dry by flushing him, playing Bryzgalov and go hunting in the clear summer morning.

  114. Pouzar says:

    Lowetide: We could both be right. I could be right that DD is a .916 goalie and you could be right that he’s lost his game for now. The equipment change for this season could have done a number on him, and maybe he doesn’t get it back until next season.

    The guy has 164 games in the NHL in 9 years. 47 is the most he’s played in one season. What is “his game”? We have no idea if save % is the metric b/c that is no way a large enough sample size. Question is, would you like him here next year as our starter? Not me.

  115. fifthcartel says:

    I can’t see a scenario with Dubnyk surviving. I’m sure he’ll catch on in NYI, or somewhere as a backup, though.

  116. TeeVee says:

    When Dubnyk lets in those blueline knuckleballs it almost looks like he needs glasses. Kinda makes a one-eyed stab at the puck and misses.

  117. Ribs says:

    Lowetide: He’ll keep his powder dry by flushing him, playing Bryzgalov and go hunting in the clear summer morning.

    Goalie market appears to be clear as mud come summer time.

  118. Lowetide says:

    Pouzar: The guy has 164 games in the NHL in 9 years. 47 is the most he’s played in one season. What is “his game”? We have no idea if save % is the metric b/c that is no way a large enough sample size. Question is, would you like him here next year as our starter? Not me.

    One of the things I try to do on this blog is take personal bias out of it. Because opinions matter, but on the internet they kind of create a “no, I’m right” “no way, I’m right” discussion.

    My opinion aside, I don’t think the Oilers bring him back. In fact, I think one day soon he’ll be getting on another plane and flying in a different direction.

    Doesn’t mean I’m going to like it, and it DOESN’T mean it’s the right decision. Dubnyk may end up making this team pay down the line. That’s just the way it is.

    On a completely unrelated note, the Oilers once had Tim Thomas as a minor league goalie. Just saying.

  119. Lowetide says:

    Ribs: Goalie market appears to be clear as mud come summer time.

    We’ll get us an expensive one, that’ll solve everything.

  120. Hammers says:

    Lets just blame DD for f—– sake this team was shite in the 1st period . Bunch of guys floating and we blame the goalie . Why can’t they play a full 60 . Keep playing like they did in the 2nd half of the Carolina game and 1st period tonight and you have 3 losses coming starting Fri night . Sorry but I think this is a team game but yea the knuckleball should have been stopped . Might have helped if there was some backchecking going on .

  121. Ribs says:

    Lowetide: We’ll get us an expensive one, that’ll solve everything.

    Perfect!

  122. art vandelay says:

    Iginla giving it to us in nothing games…Classic Iggy.
    Wasn’t a nothing game to the Bruins. They’re playing for top seed in the conference.
    Not his fault the Oilers were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs during training camp.

  123. gogliano says:

    TeeVee:
    When Dubnyk lets in those blueline knuckleballs it almost looks like he needs glasses. Kinda makes a one-eyed stab at the puck and misses.

    This sort of thing screams “comeback movie montage.” Maybe we’re still in it. I’m not sure when the last second is but DD will get the glasses about that time and we’ll have some dramatic 82nd game antics to slide into the playoffs. Maybe meet Team Iceland in the final.

  124. russ99 says:

    To me Dubnyk is fighting the play too much. We’ve all seen him make fantastic saves, and there’s no reason to think he can’t be the big, fill the net, athletic butterfly goalie he can be.

    He drops to his knees too frequently and too easy, moves out of position too frequently, tries to anticipate the puck instead of playing the puck.

    He can learn a lot from Bryzgalov. Bryz is constantly playing what he’s given, not what might be, and is almost always in position to make the save or break up the play, and that gives defenders more confidence that he’s there to back them up if they can’t make the play.

    Maybe Dubnyk needs more time and build confidence to be able to play that way.

  125. wintoon says:

    VanOil: Toronto has not won in regulation in its last 12 gamesI still like the idea of Gagner for Gardnier

    Agree 100%. Simply moving Gagner would be a positive. Actually getting a player for him would be a bonus.

  126. bookje says:

    Andy P: Hi Bookje,
    Maybe we can settle this by looking at the YTD save %’s for DD, Bryz, BTO, and La Babara Streisand.
    Then for DD look at what the scores would have been for the games he played this year, had he maintained his prior career average. From that we can get:
    1) An ordering of the goalies by save % for this year; and
    2) An understanding of how many games we lost this year due to his decreased save % from last year.
    With that information we can all have a more factual discussion on this and then move on.

    I think that’s a great discussion because it’s based upon the goalie stopping more or less pucks. I am not defending DD’s performance at all this year. I am defending the notion that save oercentage is the primary metric for measuring goalies. Certainly, it is more important than this ‘goal quality’ notion others are putting forwards.

  127. TheOtherJohn says:

    Team has flu, we get their backup, they have 6 guys out of their lineup, who knows which players dressed are sick, have # of rookies in lineup playing limited minutes. Oilers lose by 2 w empty netter.

    Oiler fans immediately talk about out shooting Bruins, having margin in FF%, CF%

    The game was there to win. If we had truly turned the corner, executed the system, etc, we would have beaten the injury depleted, sick Bruins playing their backup who has played a total of 17 games

    Vancouver, Ana, LAK up next: anyone predicting 3 wins? 2-1? Wonder if we are gonna be talking about the last 10 games in 10 days

  128. Andy P says:

    Hammers:
    Lets just blame DD for f—– sake this team was shite in the 1st period . Bunch of guys floating and we blame the goalie . Why can’t they play a full 60 . Keep playing like they did in the 2nd half of the Carolina game and 1st period tonight and you have 3 losses coming starting Fri night . Sorry but I think this is a team game but yea the knuckleball should have been stopped . Might have helped if there was some backchecking going on .

    There is obvious truth in the fact that this there are very few goalies that this team will win in front of when they play like they did in the first period. However having a goalie that lets in a few too many shots, hampers a struggling team from clawing the game back.

    This team showed character in coming back with those two goals to make a game of it. Also, I’m thinking that Boston showed how an injured team can do with a half decent goalie in net. But the claw back was in front of a replacement goalie, whose save % is worse than DD but exceptional in OK.

    So while it’s true that DD is not the only problem we’re facing, he is a definite and major weak spot in this team that MacT, being the competent GM he is proving to be, will no doubt address when the opportunity presents itself.

  129. Bar_Qu says:

    TheOtherJohn,

    This is my feeling too and the blame for the loss lies with the ineffective power play that not only didn’t score but gave up another short handed goal.

    This is a serious shortcoming on this team, but it was identified as an area of weakness for Eakins and the teams he coached when he was hired ( I don’t know who here mentioned it, but it stuck in my head at the time).

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