OILERS AT STARS, G28 13-14

Steve Simmons in his Sunday column: Slowly but surely, the Dallas Eakins influence is becoming evident with the Edmonton Oilers. First nine games: 36 goals against; Next nine games: 34 goals against: Last nine games: 23 goals against.

The Oilers say hello to an old friend today, with Shawn Horcoff and the Dallas Stars hosting the 29th best NHL team late this afternoon. Dallas is death for the Oil drop over the years, but the current edition of the Oilers should have plenty of energy after a subpar performance against Columbus on Friday night.

San Jose Sharks v Edmonton Oilers

QUAL COMP (FORWARDS)

  1. Taylor Hall
  2. Ales Hemsky
  3. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
  4. David Perron
  5. Jordan Eberle
  6. Sam Gagner
  7. Nail Yakupov

This is Behind the Net and the difference between 1 and 7 isn’t huge but it’s there. Plenty of talk this weekend about Taylor Hall and his WOWY (which we’ll get to) but it appears Dallas Eakins has identified the man who’ll push the river and has (rightly) placed him at the front of the pack. Also, I’ve been reading quite  bit on Eakins mishandling the young Russian, seems to me this shows the coach is trying to find (and of course the opposition coach plays into this too) soft landings for the kid and the guy who has pain issues early this season. Truth to tell, the most capable L, R and C are facing the toughs, which makes sense based on the talent set of the current Oilers.

ON ICE SAVE PERCENTAGE (FORWARDS)

  1. Gazdic .966
  2. Jones .950
  3. Acton .945
  4. Perron .914
  5. Arcobello .907
  6. Yakupov .886
  7. Hemsky .881
  8. Smyth .872
  9. Gagner .871
  10. Eberle .864
  11. Gordon .863
  12. Hall .863
  13. Nugent-Hopkins .862
  14. Joensuu .821

I’ve also been reading about the good work of the Acton-Gazdic 4line, child please. You and I could play two months of NHL hockey and look reasonable with that kind of SP behind us, and on the other side of the coin Nuge-Hall are getting beaten up pretty well by their own goalies. Which leads me to this.

OILERS CORSI ON (FORWARDS)

  1. Perron 1.01
  2. Arcobello .62
  3. Eberle Even
  4. Hemsky -1.97
  5. Smyth -2.02
  6. Gagner -3.25
  7. Nugent-Hopkins -5.31
  8. Yakupov -6.22
  9. Hall -8.10
  10. Jones -8.22
  11. Gordon -12.23
  12. Gazdic -19.62
  13. Acton -20.50
  14. Joensuu -22.70

Since arriving in the NHL, Taylor Hall has been pushing the river. He is NOT doing it through 27 games this season, and his WOWY chart is ghastly at this point in the season.

WHAT’S WITH THE WOWY?

First, you should know I’m going to bet Taylor Hall every time. When he’s 50, I’m betting Taylor Hall. The combination of power, speed, skill and finesse is breathtaking, I could watch him play NHL hockey all day.

Second, he had an injury and we’re not certain how much impact it had on him (or may continue to have) but it’s real. He played a couple of games at center and he also played with a very tentative Sam Gagner for several games.

Finally, I want to quote an article from a couple of week’s back over at Tyler’s place.

  • Dellow: When he (Hall) moved to the wing, they went 56/44 with him on the ice and the score close in the next five games. Since then – and I recognize he’s coming off an injury – he’s Lennart Petrell, who posted a 38% Corsi% with the score close during 2011-13. This is a problem. There’ve been whispers of changes in how the Oilers approach things from a tactical perspective and I wonder if this links back to that. Dallas Eakins mentioned during a media availability that they’d changed things in the defensive zone and abandoned the much discussed swarm. The time period that he suggested that the change was made roughly corresponds to the point between the Pittsburgh game and the Islanders game. I’ve felt, watching the games, like we’re seeing the Oilers forecheck much less aggressively and basically let the opposition come to them.

There’s always a danger of excuse-making for our favorite players, and I may in fact be doing that here in regard to Taylor Hall. I’m going to stay the course with him though, because he’s a wonderful talent, a determined man and a chance machine. As a fan of the draft, Taylor Hall represents the Oilers’ Mecca, and for me he’s already the center of a wonderful cluster. He might be a flawed diamond, but he’s our diamond and I’m sticking with him all down the line.

EXTRA SKATER, HALL, LAST FIVE CORSI FOR 5X5

  • Against Jackets (7-0W): 11-9, 55%
  • Against Panthers (4-1W) 9-12, 42.9%
  • Against Hawks (5-1 L) 8-11, 42.1%
  • Against Preds (3-0 W) 12-10, 54.5%
  • Against Jackets (4-2 L) 9-8, 52.9%

The last really poor game was 10 November, Oilers have been pushing more and the results are more in line with expectations. The Corsi for % in those 5 games for Hall is 49%, a major improvement over the rough patch.

dorey

 WATCHING THE BRUINS

Everything’s easier when you have a top defender. Everything. I watch all the Bruins games, and it’s amazing how easily they can place a flawed defender (Torey Krug as an example) into the rotation and keep on rolling because they have a monster at the end of the book. 25 minutes a night from big Chara, 21 from Seidenberg and another 21 from Johnny Boychuk and then all of a sudden you can work in Doug Hamilton and Torey Krug without having the whole damn thing fall apart like a cheap suit.

I learned about young defense from the Toronto Maple Leafs. When I was a kid, they had a veteran defense (this is when I was little, the ’60s) and I remember Tim Horton and Allan Stanley and Bob Baun and Larry Hillman and they all looked 95 years old. Old defensemen, the good ones, are gold. Anyway, by 1971 they were all kids like Jim Dorey, Jim McKenny, Mike Pelyk, Rick Ley, Brad Selwood and Brian Glennie—honestly, they were all like 23 or younger and inexperienced. Even a guy like McKenny who had been around awhile couldn’t play defense like any of the old guys could, and the best of the kids (Dorey) was a high event player (Dorey would fight if someone looked at him sideways) so chaos ruled the day because kids on blue.

We’ve been talking about dealing the first round pick for Ehrhoff and I’m still on board, but at this point would like a more complete player, a real defenseman like Phaneuf who can play big minutes in all disciplines and still find the time to be an asshole. The Oilers need a big ugly defenseman with experience, hair on his ass, a sneer and bad breath.

Any of those guys lying around?

Dallas lost Stephane Robidas to a horrible injury the other night, they’ll be down one good man on the blue line today.

huddy4The Oilers need a guy like Charlie Huddy. They already have Justin Schultz for the Coffey-role, they need a coffee-mate for Schultz the younger. If Boychuk was left handed he might be perfect, but more and more I’m leaning toward Dion Phaneuf. You should be prepared for a lot of Double Dion wow kablammo bang smash pow! talk as we get closer to free agency. I’m sorry, but can’t find an alternative and until I do, we’re all going to suffer.

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  1. icecastles says:

    Lois Lowe:
    icecastles,

    I meant etymology. If you use your arm as a battering ram, one might say you are using it as a weapon. What is another word for weapon? Shiv.

    No. A shiv is an improvised stabbing weapon. It is not a blanket term for any sort of weapon. And good luck proving in court that someone assaulted you with a weapon, the weapon being their arms.

    Unless you’re assaulted by Bruce Lee.

  2. Lowetide says:

    big goal GREAT play by Jones.

  3. jake70 says:

    Ryan Jones, you deserve about 3 assist for that goal. NIce.

  4. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Hem-burgers for all the kids!!!

    Great job jonesy!

  5. skidplate says:

    Beautiful play by Jones and Hemsky. Excellent timing.

  6. Pouzar says:

    YES!

  7. icecastles says:

    Has Hemsky ever had an UGLY goal? Damn, he makes it look good. Every time.

  8. Pouzar says:

    Jones just earned himself a new 3 year deal on that play.

  9. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    skidplate:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    He spun the wrong way though, he should have turned towards the boards not the center of the ice. I will blame him for that.:-)

    He didn’t play it well… but that’s why you’re on a team. everyone makes mistakes… the failsafes didn’t exist and the only one that did (Bryz) got beat.

  10. skidplate says:

    Chiasson is a pretty big boy to. Jones played that marvelously.

  11. Lowetide says:

    Gene Principe ‏@GenePrincipe 14s

    “He was playing great and it sucks that he got hurt.” Ales Hemsky on Ilya Bryzgalov’s play prior to getting hurt.

  12. russ99 says:

    Hope Bryz is OK.

    Geez, his family came to the game to see him get knocked cold.

  13. leadfarmer says:

    This Grebeshkov experiment needs to end. I feel bad for Hemsky having to play with 89 and 64 on a contract year

  14. Lowetide says:

    extra skater has the EV Corsi 30-31, so Oilers are in this as long as they don’t get a powerplay. Lordy what a crazy year.

  15. skidplate says:

    Lowetide,

    Agree, their PP needs to be tested.

  16. fuzzy muppet says:

    Petry should sit for that shitty effort.

    horrible

  17. Rebilled says:

    Ference, Petry , and 40 get burned there.

  18. skidplate says:

    Petry turn your head to see if there is someone for you to cover=-O

  19. Pouzar says:

    What was Petry looking at there?

  20. Lloyd B. says:

    Petry watching the puck.

  21. LMHF#1 says:

    What I hate about Ference and Petry back-to-back. Lovely…

  22. skidplate says:

    Nice follow up shift

  23. skidplate says:

    Dubnyk doesn’t look confident.

  24. leadfarmer says:

    We are going to have to work on our fitness level :)

  25. VanOil says:

    Giving up PKs in this game is almost as disappointing as earning PPs

  26. Lloyd B. says:

    Hey LT. Why do my comments have a five minute delay? I’m seeing other comments that appear to be instantaneous. Am I in some kind of purgatory for some reason? I don’t believe I’ve said anything that warrants my comments being delayed for your approval prior to being posted.

  27. skidplate says:

    Nice play by Perry and Ference on that PK.

  28. Lowetide says:

    Lloyd B.:
    Hey LT.Why do my comments have a five minute delay?I’m seeing other comments that appear to be instantaneous. Am I in some kind of purgatory for some reason?I don’t think I’ve said anything that warrants my comments being delayed for your approval prior to being posted.

    Nope, there’s been nothing in delay or in jail all day. The only time you’d have a delay is if you have a bunch of links but that’s true of everyone.

  29. leadfarmer says:

    Lowetide,

    Thats the problem with Corsi, Dallas is wiping the ice with them

  30. skidplate says:

    Petry of course

  31. Pouzar says:

    Wow is Petry havin a game.

  32. Derek says:

    Lloyd B.:
    Hey LT.Why do my comments have a five minute delay?I’m seeing other comments that appear
    to be instantaneous. Am I in some kind of purgatory for some reason?I don’t believe I’ve said anything that warrants my comments being delayed for your approval prior to being posted.

    5 Minutes to edit or request deletion.

  33. skidplate says:

    Lloyd B.,

    Lloyd, are you using an iPhone?

  34. Lowetide says:

    And NOW they must count on the power play to tie. And the power play is death.

  35. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    The knives are out tonight huh, boys?

  36. skidplate says:

    Trying to be way too cute.

  37. VanOil says:

    How come zone entries are so hard for the Oilers PP to figure out.

  38. jp says:

    Jesus Dubnyk!!

  39. Lowetide says:

    Well, the PP will get better but they have to do something about the defense. They’re losing 2-1 and you know they haven’t played badly 5×5, but you have these major leaks on defense and boom goes the dynamite.

    And there’s 7 minutes left and do you really think the Oilers will score before Dallas?

    I don’t. Defense is the problem.

  40. skidplate says:

    Wow, Dubie found his confidence, along with the dmans. Jock strap.

  41. mumbai max says:

    Justin Shultz should not be allowed to play in the NHL before he learns to have a TINY bit of backbone, or physical interest in the game. He seems completely disinterested. This has been a BRUTAL game for him. The play where Bryz got run and he stood and watched the guy skate away was pathetic. Time for some press box time. Waive Grebs, sit Shultz and bring up Fedun and Potter. Wow, this game is SO frustrating. Petry is having his worst game of the year. Even if they get a lucky comeback the effort and result are abysmal. I have been preaching patience, but NOW I am ready for a big trade to shake things up. Not a stupid trade, but something to change the dynamic. This is ridiculous.

  42. Derek says:

    I’ve watched just shy of 20 minutes of game time and I’ve seen 3 Dallas breakaways.

    Holy fuck this team is terrible.

  43. Rebilled says:

    What?? Who???

  44. Pouzar says:

    I swear Captain is only d-man who wants to shoot it

  45. Logan91 says:

    mumbai max,

    I would definitely send down Schultz.

    Would be interesting to see how he plays in the minors without Hall, Ebs and Nuge.

  46. skidplate says:

    Nice Ference.

  47. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Oh captain. can’t stay mad at you after that!

  48. Lloyd B. says:

    Lowetide,

    That’s weird. I always have a 5 minute time frame to edit etc. showing on my screen when I make comments and hit post. Is that normal or do my comments get posted as soon as I make them?

  49. jake70 says:

    Pouzar:
    I swear Captain is only d-man who wants to shoot it

    Belov shoots quite a bit…suprised one hasn’t snuck through yet. I am still irritated at Eberle about a minute before the goal…high slot, no shot, tries to beat 3 guys.

  50. dtk says:

    Lois Lowe:
    icecastles,

    I meant etymology. If you use your arm as a battering ram, one might say you are using it as a weapon. What is another word for weapon? Shiv.

    A “shiver”, as in “forearm shiver”, is from the Middle English “chivere” and means “to break into small pieces”. The colloquial American meaning of “forearm shiver” is something like “hitting the head or neck with a forearm”, and the forearm pads worn by football players are referred to as “forearm shivers”

    A “shiv” is a slang for a knife, and the Oxford English Dictionary says it probably derives from Romany word “chiv” , meaning “blade”.

  51. Lowetide says:

    who expects them to score another goal here? I don’t

  52. Genjutsu says:

    Jones has been great tonight, Hemmer as well.

  53. Pouzar says:

    Clearly our small forward group is the problem. We don’t need D-men.

  54. striatic says:

    The ice in Dallas looks pretty terrible.

    Was wondering why the Oilers were looking so tired. No wonder. They’ve been skating through slush all night.

  55. Kitchener says:

    Hockey Gods – thanks!

  56. skidplate says:

    Noooo, not a penalty

  57. steveb12344 says:

    Lowetide: who expects them to score another goal here? I don’t

    HAHA… I see what you did there.

  58. Lowetide says:

    Lloyd B.:
    Lowetide,

    That’s weird.I always have a 5 minute time frame to edit etc. showing on my screen when I make comments and hit post.Is that normal or do my comments get posted as soon as I make them?

    I don’t know, it works without a clock for me. Anyone?

  59. striatic says:

    The Garbutt giveth, and the Garbutt taketh away.

  60. skidplate says:

    Way too many drop fucking passes

  61. Lloyd B. says:

    Derek: 5 Minutes to edit or request deletion.

    Ok But are the comments posted straight away? Else I look like a dummy posting five minutes after the rest of you. I don’t do I phone. I’m on my PC in SE Sask tonight. But the same thing happens when I’m home in Edmonton.

  62. russ99 says:

    This would be a huge win if we can pull it out.

    I’d even take a shoutout win.

  63. Lowetide says:

    A win here would be everything a loss would be death. SPORTS!

  64. steveb12344 says:

    Lloyd B.: Ok But are the comments posted straight away? Else I look like a dummy posting five minutes after the rest of you. I don’t do I phone. I’m on my PC in SE Sask tonight. But the same thing happens when I’m home in Edmonton.

    I get the same 5 min thing. I’m pretty sure the comments are posted immediately, and it just gives you time to edit.

  65. skidplate says:

    A point, we got a point! Whoot Whoot. Clap,clap.

  66. bookje says:

    I just tuned in with a minute left. What’s the game story? Playing ok? – sucking and lucky to be tied ?

  67. Lowetide says:

    Dallas dominated that third period, CF/Cf 49-38 Dallas with about 3min left (extra skter)

  68. skidplate says:

    Hell of a start to OT

  69. striatic says:

    steveb12344,

    Yep, the clock ticking down is merely the editing period. Comments are posted immediately. At least for me.

  70. jake70 says:

    Holy cow how are they not scoring.

  71. VanOil says:

    Maybe if we only put 4 players on the ice for our PP it would work better.

  72. skidplate says:

    VanOil,

    Couldn’t of been worse this game. Other than the last PP in the 3rd

  73. Lowetide says:

    bookje:
    I just tuned in with a minute left.What’s the game story? Playing ok? – sucking and lucky to be tied ?

    Insane game, Oilers played well through two at evens, but were awful on the PP, in fact Dallas got a SH goal. Dallas dominated the third and Oilers dominated the OT.

  74. striatic says:

    bookje:
    I just tuned in with a minute left.What’s the game story? Playing ok? – sucking and lucky to be tied ?

    The shot count is pretty reflective of how the game has gone.

    So, lucky.

  75. skidplate says:

    Fantastic OT. We should have win it there.

  76. bookje says:

    Thanks LT and Striatuc.

  77. skidplate says:

    Hemsky was a beast on the Ference goal. But he is soft right?

  78. Kitchener says:

    We didn’t deserve to get here, but sure showed up once OT started.

  79. Lloyd B. says:

    We need to start lobbying the NHL to go to 4×4 instead of 5×5. We’d be SC champs for sure!! Awesome overtime.

  80. steveb12344 says:

    bookje,

    Also of note… Bryz was playing lights out, then got bonked and might have a concussion.

    So, that sucked!

  81. skidplate says:

    Dubie!!!

  82. striatic says:

    Is Dubnyk a good shootout goalie, statistically?

  83. skidplate says:

    Yes, Eberle!!

  84. Lowetide says:

    Eberle!

  85. skidplate says:

    Nice shot Perron

  86. Lowetide says:

    Perron! How in HELL did STL trade him?

  87. Rebilled says:

    Eat it Garbutt!

  88. skidplate says:

    Dubie wins it for us!!!! Excellent end to the game.

  89. jp says:

    Game Over. Wasn’t always pretty but I’ll take it. I’m sure the team will too!

  90. bookje says:

    Devan Dubnyk and his soft saves – every game the same thing!

  91. skidplate says:

    Lowetide,

    Bad body language.

  92. VanOil says:

    It was and ugly baby but its shit did not stink up the room that bad

  93. russ99 says:

    Shootout win!!

  94. striatic says:

    Lowetide:
    Perron! How in HELL did STL trade him?

    They seem to be doing pretty well without him, Steen’s unsustainable shooting percentage aside.

  95. Pouzar says:

    Man Eberle and Perron the dirty assassins. Hats off to Doobie.

  96. Lowetide says:

    OILERSSSS! Damn. Love this team that I hate so much!

  97. skidplate says:

    bookje,

    Lol. How did Bryz get the first star?

  98. Its a Trap says:

    Dallas play by play refuses to admit the Stars lost.

  99. jp says:

    Oilers slip to 4th overall, at least temporarily, with the win tonight.

  100. Pouzar says:

    Lowetide:
    Perron! How in HELL did STL trade him?

    I dunno LT. I know St. Louis needed to sign guys but the guy is just unreal. I was giving the gears to my buddies who are Jets fans and said Chevy should have made a move for Perron cause he woulda been their best offensive player by far right now.

  101. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    thank gord, we won!

  102. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    So, why not 10mins of that 4×4… or, hell… why not 60?

  103. Lowetide says:

    skidplate:
    bookje,

    Lol. How did Bryz get the first star?

    He’s a witch.

  104. Kitchener says:

    Unreal. “We found a way to win.” That’s a headline I could get used to.

    DD’s body language after the last save & skating toward the bench was great. Achievement of a big goal.

    This game will do more for their morale than just 7-0 blowouts or the odd short winning streak. It’s a win that’ll make the whole team believe they can climb any mountain.

  105. Pouzar says:

    I hate shootouts. Bring back the tie or 3 pts for a reg win.
    Too frickin hard to make up ground.

  106. flyfish1168 says:

    Justin Schultz is not NHL ready. He may have NHL tools but his thought process is no where near NHL ready. He needs to be sat out or sent down. Way to timid and soft along with slow reaction to danger.

  107. VanOil says:

    Lowetide: He’s a witch.

    There will be a joke or two about the Bryz concussion protocol questions once we know he is OK.

  108. Lowetide says:

    flyfish1168:
    Justin Schultz is not NHL ready. He may have NHL tools but his thought process is no where near NHL ready. He needs to be sat out or sent down. Way to timid and soft along with slow reaction to danger.

    Nah, he just needs a defenseman with calm feet like Charlie Huddy to play beside him.

  109. Professor Q says:

    Lowetide: He’s a witch.

    And this isn’t my star. It’s a false one.

  110. Lowetide says:

    Greg Chase with 2 goals tonight.

  111. VanOil says:

    Lowetide:
    Greg Chase with 2 goals tonight.

    Perron 2.0 please

  112. flyfish1168 says:

    Lowetide,

    LT I agree that would help. But his give aways are mounting up along with his defensive positioning. Wish he would recognize the dangerous position he leaves his teammates to fight for the puck after receiving some of his passes. I like to so more safe passes or maybe his forwards give him better options up the ice.

    Watching Karlsson he always seems to do the nice safe long passes so his forwards are not in danger.

    No doubt our forwards can help our d-men with better set ups or outlet

  113. icecastles says:

    Kitchener: DD’s body language after the last save & skating toward the bench was great. Achievement of a big goal.

    Careful, we’re not allowed to acknowledge the existence of body language here. Apparently it makes guys uncomfortable being reminded that (a) people have emotions beyond pride and rage, (b) emotions can effect level of play, and (c) these emotions can be observed and noted by people other than their wives/girlfriends.

    That OT was unreal. We terrified they were going to lose the SO after completely and absolutely dominating those 5 minutes. a good win, and nice to see them take one that had to really dig for.

    Overtime Open Line noted that it was nice to see the team get an ugly goal courtesy of Jones/Hemsky. Maybe it comes from being a Smyth fan for years and my idea of ‘ugly’ getting rather biased, but that was as gorgeous a goal as I could hope to see.

  114. Lowetide says:

    flyfish1168:
    Lowetide,

    LT I agree that would help. But his give aways are mounting up along with his defensive positioning. Wish he would recognize the dangerous position he leaves his teammates to fight for the puck after receiving some of his passes. I like to so more safe passes or maybe his forwards give him better options up the ice.

    Watching Karlsson he always seems to do the nice safe long passes so his forwards are not in danger.

    No doubt our forwards can help our d-men with better set ups or outlet

    ALL of the Oilers defensemen were eaten alive tonight by Garbutt and that other guy. I understand how you feel, but Justin Schultz does a lot of things no other defensemen can do, and that has value. He’s a terrific player but he has some holes.

    MacT’s job is to find him a guardian.

  115. VanOil says:

    flyfish1168,

    I would be tempted to give the whole team a challenge for the month of December: No cross ice pass allowed unless you are bellow the attacking zone face off dots. Schultz is not the only player to be temped into risky passes on the Oilers.

  116. Old School G says:

    Lowetide:
    Greg Chase with 2 goals tonight.

    Gutsy win. Greg Chase is looking like a player. Good little Sunday.

  117. Lowetide says:

    Kitchener:
    Unreal.“We found a way to win.”That’s a headline I could get used to.

    DD’s body language after the last save & skating toward the bench was great.Achievement of a big goal.

    This game will do more for their morale than just 7-0 blowouts or the odd short winning streak.It’s a win that’ll make the whole team believe they can climb any mountain.

    I think Dubnyk’s the better goalie and will have the better career from here, but it’s nice to feel some confidence when the starter goes down. Those 4 games early are going to cost Dubnyk a lot of money, but I’m still cheering for him.

  118. Lowetide says:

    Ference 27 minutes tonight. Wow

  119. icecastles says:

    Lowetide: MacT’s job is to find him a guardian.

    I never thought of it this way, but that’s an excellent way to consider it.

    Likelihood of acquisition aside, who would be the template for this player? Are you thinking of a Weber type? (not suggesting they should/could go after Shea Weber, more of a bluesky on the skill set / player type / experience level they should be seeking out)

  120. flyfish1168 says:

    Totally agree with you guys. There always seem to be a disconnect between our d-men and our forwards. Its so rare that we exit our zone and enter the oppositions and cycle to puck with good support from all 5 players.

    its almost to a tee that it one to two passes in the oppositions and then we are racing back to our own end.

    We cheat to much for offense or we shot and miss the net and then chaos starts.

  121. fifthcartel says:

    Lowetide:
    Ference 27 minutes tonight. Wow

    oh god….

  122. VOR says:

    LT,

    Could you clarify something?

    Are you looking for coffee mate or a franchise Dman?

    Huddy was not a big thumper, a fast skater, nor a guy who would drop his gloves. He didn’t arrive in Edmonton a veteran 2D. Never drafted he spent several years playing his way out of the minors getting increasing NHL ice time. Yet at 23 Charlie Huddy was the perfect partner for the brilliant but chaotic Paul Coffey.

    Schultz probably needs somebody as unique as Huddy. Charlie left his ego at the door but brought hie rest of his brain to every game. Coffey didn’t stop making mistakes just because he was paired with Huddy. Coffey’s mistakes just stopped ending up in the back of the Oilers net. But let’s be clear Huddy had proved he could dominate as an offensive D in the minors. He chose to take pride in playing smart defensive hockey and always seemed delighted by his partner’s success,

    I’d love Phaneuf here or Ehrhoff or both. However, neither appears likely to be a Schultz whisperer. I truly can’t imagine either of them falling back to defend the inevitable 2 on 1 that every new Schultz foray may create. So which is it you are longing for? Franchise D or the guy who can turn Schultz into a franchise Dman.

  123. dangilitis says:

    Who is this Mitch Homberg and why is he eating up the WHL? His size and scoring make him look like another Petan (who, incidentally, is 2nd in scoring)

  124. sliderule says:

    Lowetide,

    I have been keeping silent about J Schultz but since he came back from injury he has been sweet fuckin brutal.

    Can’t win a scrum,can’t receive a pass,looks lackadaisical .

    Where did the player I saw in ok city go?

  125. Lowetide says:

    VOR: LOTS of Coffey mistakes ended up in the Oiler net. He was a risky player, absolutely the truth. For me, I’d like a mobile defender but if the player doesn’t bring a lot of offense that’s fine. Schultz wouldn’t play with Phaneuf because he’d be on the top pairing, and Schultz should be on 2nd or 3rd (depending on which way the wind blows).

  126. icecastles says:

    sliderule: Where did the player I saw in ok city go?

    To the NHL. It’s a slightly tougher league.

  127. dangilitis says:

    VOR,

    VOR:
    LT,

    Could you clarify something?

    Are you looking for coffee mate or a franchise Dman?

    Huddy was not a big thumper, a fast skater, nor a guy who would drop his gloves. He didn’t arrive in Edmonton a veteran 2D. Never drafted he spent several years playing his way out of the minors getting increasing NHL ice time. Yet at 23 Charlie Huddy was the perfect partner for the brilliant but chaotic Paul Coffey.

    Schultz probably needs somebody as unique as Huddy. Charlie left his ego at the door but brought hie rest of his brain to every game. Coffey didn’t stop making mistakes just because he was paired with Huddy. Coffey’s mistakes just stopped ending up in the back of the Oilers net. But let’s be clear Huddy had proved he could dominate as an offensive D in the minors. He chose to take pride in playing smart defensive hockey and always seemed delighted by his partner’s success,

    I’d love Phaneuf here or Ehrhoffor both. However, neither appears likely to be a Schultz whisperer. I truly can’t imagine either of them falling back to defend the inevitable 2 on 1 that every new Schultz foray may create. So which is it you are longing for? Franchise D or the guy who can turn Schultz into a franchise Dman.

    I’ll take one of each, please

    Jokes aside, I think that’s what LT is saying. We need an ideal JS partner, but that should ideally be a 3-4 punch. We also need a partner for Petry at the top. That would give us a decent but not elite 1st line, and an above average 3-4 pairing once JS has matured to compensate within the top 4. That’s how good teams without a franchise D-man solve the problem, by spreading around skill in the top 4.

    So yes, we need 2 more D men to make up the top 4. Hopefully one comes from within the organization and soon, and I think the Oilers believe and hope that Klefbom is the JSchultz pairing solution. The problem is that pairing is longer away from being an actual 3-4 pairing than they think, and Nurse is 3-6 years away from being Petry’s partner but it feels like they are bringing him in next year.

    I would love to know what the plans are for the Oilers’ D prospects. Is Simpson a 3-4? Is Marincin a 3-4? Is Klefbom a 3-4? If so, it would be nice to have a crystal ball so we could trade the odd man out + something for a 1-2 type of Dman.

  128. jake70 says:

    sliderule:
    Lowetide,

    I have been keeping silent about J Schultz but since he came back from injury he has been sweet fuckin brutal.

    Can’t win a scrum,can’t receive a pass,looks lackadaisical.
    Where did the player I saw in ok city go?

    He went to the NHL, a different “space-time” continuum.

  129. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide and VOR,

    The closest two NHL defensemen who come to mind as Huddy-esque partners for J. Schultz are Rob Scuderi and Dan Girardi.

    Veteran players who play low-event hockey, cover the rear on offense, and can make one strong, safe pass out of the zone.

  130. gr8one says:

    Lowetide:
    Perron! How in HELL did STL trade him?

    White skates.

  131. Lowetide says:

    RexLibris:
    Lowetide and VOR,

    The closest two NHL defensemen who come to mind as Huddy-esque partners for J. Schultz are Rob Scuderi and Dan Girardi.

    Veteran players who play low-event hockey, cover the rear on offense, and can make one strong, safe pass out of the zone.

    I thought that was what they were going to do with Coburn to be honest. A Coburn-J Schultz pairing might work out nicely.

  132. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide,

    Yeah, that might be what MacTavish had in mind, but I don’t know enough about Coburn except that he is a valuable blueline asset.

    With the way things are going in Toronto, and some of their curious personnel decisions the last while, I wonder if there isn’t at least an outside chance now that Gardiner could be had for an appropriate price (ie: not all the tea in China).

  133. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Marco-Roy with another Goal tonight. ALso, I see he’s an A captain. didn’t know that.

    dangilitis:
    Who is this Mitch Homberg and why is he eating up the WHL? His size and scoring make him look like another Petan (who, incidentally, is 2nd in scoring)

    He’s having an amazing year for sure. His stat line is nuts

    28 30-34-64

    But, he’s undrafted and 20 (93 birthday). He’ll probably get a two-way contract at the end of the season from someone. His size is working against him for sure and I don’t know anything about his team, so he may not be driving the bus.

    http://whl.ca/roster/show/id/1026

  134. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide: ALL of the Oilers defensemen were eaten alive tonight by Garbutt and that other guy. I understand how you feel, but Justin Schultz does a lot of things no other defensemen can do, and that has value. He’s a terrific player but he has some holes.

    MacT’s job is to find him a guardian.

    I think the plan is for Ferrence to play with him.

    Unfortunately, he’s busy playing over his head at 1LD.

    There is not one Oiler Dman playing at his established NHL level

    Ference – playing 1st pair, should be 2nd or 3rd on a really good team
    Petry – playing 1st, 2nd on a good team
    J.Shultz – playing 2nd pair, should be 3rd pair with safety valve partner
    Belov – playing 2nd, might get there next year, should be 3rd this year
    N.Shultz – playing 3rds and some 2nds, should be 7/8 Dman
    Grebs – Playing 2nd/3rds, not sure he’s up to the NHL, might be for 3rds (weeps)

    It affects everything, including how the forwards play.

    They need a hero

    I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the end of the night

    He’s gotta be strong, and he’s gotta be fast, and he’s gotta be fresh from the fight

    They need a hero

    I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the morning light

    He’s gotta be sure, and it’s gotta be soon, and he’s gotta be larger than life

  135. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Anyone else having trouble with the post game vids on the Oilers website?

    they’ve also got that MacT interview up, but I can’t get it to play.

  136. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide: I thought that was what they were going to do with Coburn to be honest. A Coburn-J Schultz pairing might work out nicely.

    They’d put Coburn at 1LD because he’d be the most qualified.

    It’d be over his head, but he would be the most qualified.

    I think Ference was hired to hold Shultz’ hand.

  137. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Woodguy: I think Ference was hired to hold Shultz’ hand.

    I think Ference was hired for even more BS reasons than that: “knows what it’s like to win” “winning culture” “workout nut” “character” etc.

  138. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy,

    I just hope they don’t go in for Phaneuf (if he makes it to FA) the way they did for Ference and Clarkson. He is likely to get a gross overpay and I pray that it isn’t from the Oilers.

    Heh, maybe Burke goes after him for Calgary again. That’d be hilarious.

  139. Woodguy says:

    VOR:
    LT,

    Could you clarify something?

    Are you looking for coffee mate or a franchise Dman?

    Huddy was not a big thumper, a fast skater, nor a guy who would drop his gloves. He didn’t arrive in Edmonton a veteran 2D. Never drafted he spent several years playing his way out of the minors getting increasing NHL ice time. Yet at 23 Charlie Huddy was the perfect partner for the brilliant but chaotic Paul Coffey.

    Schultz probably needs somebody as unique as Huddy. Charlie left his ego at the door but brought hie rest of his brain to every game. Coffey didn’t stop making mistakes just because he was paired with Huddy. Coffey’s mistakes just stopped ending up in the back of the Oilers net. But let’s be clear Huddy had proved he could dominate as an offensive D in the minors. He chose to take pride in playing smart defensive hockey and always seemed delighted by his partner’s success,

    I’d love Phaneuf here or Ehrhoffor both. However, neither appears likely to be a Schultz whisperer. I truly can’t imagine either of them falling back to defend the inevitable 2 on 1 that every new Schultz foray may create. So which is it you are longing for? Franchise D or the guy who can turn Schultz into a franchise Dman.

    Lowe was always the tough minute Dman. Fogolin, Gregg, Muni, Smith all played with Lowe.

    Coffey and Huddy got the prime time ice time to be sure, but it was Lowe out there vs the opposition toughs.

    So Erhoff, Phaneuf, whoever isn’t the J.Shultz valve.

    They need that player to push Ference down to 2nd pairing to do that job.

  140. Woodguy says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: I think Ference was hired for even more BS reasons than that: “knows what it’s like to win” “winning culture” “workout nut” “character” etc.

    I’m not so sure all of that is BS.

    Leaders need to lead from the front.

    None of the kids know where the front is yet.

    They will, but its not today.

  141. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide: ALL of the Oilers defensemen were eaten alive tonight by Garbutt and that other guy. I understand how you feel, but Justin Schultz does a lot of things no other defensemen can do, and that has value. He’s a terrific player but he has some holes.

    MacT’s job is to find him a guardian.

    If all the Oilers Dmen were J.Shultz they’d win a lot of 7-6 games, but get killed in the playoffs.

  142. RexLibris says:

    Just had a look at the fancystats over at ES. Hall was struggling on the Corsirel, pretty much what I had assumed after his knee-sprain.

    But Eberle was +21% on CFrel on only 33% offensive zone starts.

  143. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Woodguy: I’m not so sure all of that is BS.

    Leaders need to lead from the front.

    None of the kids know where the front is yet.

    They will, but its not today.

    It’s not complete BS, for sure, i.e., it’s not “faceoff% in the playoffs” BS. But, it’s not “on-ice performance dictates dollars” sense-making either. It’s somewhere in between.

  144. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    anyone getting these damn videos to work?

  145. Lowetide says:

    Woodguy: They’d put Coburn at 1LD because he’d be the most qualified.

    It’d be over his head, but he would be the most qualified.

    I think Ference was hired to hold Shultz’ hand.

    That’s possible but wowy minutes say otherwise.

    http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayer.php?pid=568&withagainst=true&season=2013-14&sit=5v5

  146. Logan91 says:

    RexLibris:
    Woodguy,

    I just hope they don’t go in for Phaneuf (if he makes it to FA) the way they did for Ference and Clarkson. He is likely to get a gross overpay and I pray that it isn’t from the Oilers.

    Heh, maybe Burke goes after him for Calgary again. That’d be hilarious.

    Whats wrong with Phaneuf? He’s a good player on a struggling team, not to mention an over critical hockey market.

    Dion will get paid where ever he goes.

  147. Woodguy says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    anyone getting these damn videos to work?

    Worked for me.

    Close your browser and re-open.

    Works for me when the Oilers site won’t play.

  148. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide: That’s possible but wowy minutes say otherwise.

    http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayer.php?pid=568&withagainst=true&season=2013-14&sit=5v5

    That was my point though.

    He was hired to hold J.Shultz’s hand and they anticipated getting a 1LD to play with Petry.

    The new hire hasn’t happened so Ference gets the toughs because he’s the best option.

    That’s on MacT.

    Remember the first few games?

    Ference and J.Shultz were a pairing.

    Just checked on Extraskater to confirm it.

    Don’t have time to see how long it lasted (or if it was any good), but that was the plan.

    Coach and GM soured on Smid as 1LD, traded him away and here we are.

    I fully expected a 3-1 type package including Smid and the 1st rounder next year + Marincin type of trade for a 2nd tier 1LD, but doesn’t look like it was there to be had.

  149. Lowetide says:

    WG: Yes, makes sense. Ference-J Schultz as a second/third pairing depending on how they develop the kids.

  150. pboy says:

    icecastles: I never thought of it this way, but that’s an excellent way to consider it.

    Likelihood of acquisition aside, who would be the template for this player? Are you thinking of a Weber type? (not suggesting they should/could go after Shea Weber, more of a bluesky on the skill set / player type / experience level they should be seeking out)

    Jason Smith

  151. dangilitis says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Marco-Roy with another Goal tonight. ALso, I see he’s an A captain. didn’t know that.

    He’s having an amazing year for sure. His stat line is nuts

    28 30-34-64

    But, he’s undrafted and 20 (93 birthday). He’ll probably get a two-way contract at the end of the season from someone. His size is working against him for sure and I don’t know anything about his team, so he may not be driving the bus.

    http://whl.ca/roster/show/id/1026

    True, but who else could be driving the bus? Have Reid Gow or Jason Fram set up all 30 of his goals?

    Skaters: GP G A PTS +/-
    Holmberg, Mitch 29 30 34 64 21
    Aviani, Mike 28 22 18 40 18
    Gow, Reid 28 0 33 33 13
    Fram, Jason 29 4 23 27 15
    Helewka, Adam 19 12 8 20 2
    Stewart, Liam 24 5 8 13 1
    Whittingham, Riley 28 6 7 13 8
    Chartier, Connor 29 5 6 11 -2
    Proft, Carter 29 5 5 10 1
    Bechtold, Markson 25 0 9 9 3

  152. VOR says:

    I remember being in Montreal in the fall of 1989. The press and the radio shows were busy trashing the team’s defence, particularly the prospects in the system who were being pushed into big minutes. It was going to be a disaster. One article always stuck with me, it was something about how none of these kids would ever have NHL careers and how the Canadiens had to trade for veteran help on D. At best Dejardins was five years Schneider was even further and Odelien and Brisebois would never be good enough. That was what you heard everywhere that fall. Those 4 young men are of course T-4 from the Stanley Cup. All played more than 1000 NHL games.

    I lost my last post where I thanked LT for his clarification. I do get that you all want veterans but Huddy, Lowe, and Coffey weren’t veterans when they anchored a Stanley Cup team and neither were Dejardins etc. when they won. I wouldn’t want to see some veteran acquired if the Oilers take it as an excuse to stop looking for more prospects and from looking within. By all means chase Phaneuf in free agency but at the trade deadline flip Ales Hemsky to Detroit for Alexei Marchenko. Because we can be fairly sure Phaneuf isn’t going to lead the current Oilers D to the Stanley Cup. We need some of the prospects to turn into Dejardins, Schneider, etc.

  153. Woodguy says:

    VOR,

    Because we can be fairly sure Phaneuf isn’t going to lead the current Oilers D to the Stanley Cup

    And how do we know that?

    Not saying Phaneuf would be the answer, but that statement is rife with assumptions.

  154. Woodguy says:

    VOR,

    Players didn’t become free agents until 31 back then.

    The core here is FA when they are 27 or so.

    Another fallicy in your statement is that everyone wants to trade away all the young D.

    That is also wrong.

    Trading one to get a true 1LHD is ok since the system is reasonably deep with LHD.

    No on is saying trade all of J.Shultz, Klef, Nurse, Marincin, Fedun, etc. etc.

  155. VOR says:

    Woodguy,

    That was my puny attempt at humour. According to many posters here we need at least two D. Also, we aren’t as good a team as Toronto accord to many others. So if Phaneuf can’t take Toronto to the Stanley Cup and he is only one D man then Phaneuf can’t take us to the Stanley Cup. So which statement do you want to challenge? We need more than one D or that Toronto is a better team than the Oilers? It is a formal logic joke.

  156. spoiler says:

    Let’s remember that right now J. Schultz has less NHL games played than Coffey after his first season.

    He’s never going to be Weber it his own end, but he will get better. A lot of his defensive plays remind me of Visnovsky to tell you the truth.

    I agree that he could use a strong physical presence with a defensive conscience playing alongside… He’s such a great puckmover and a great skater, that if you’re BigD you don’t want to restrict him to 3rd pairing minutes… so Klefbom will likely not be that Huddy complement, despite the similar style.

    Is Ference good enough to carry Jultz in his own end against second tier comp? I like the Captain but that’s a tall order till Jultz gets some experience under his belt.

  157. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide:
    WG: Yes, makes sense. Ference-J Schultz as a second/third pairing depending on how they develop the kids.

    Just looked and Ference-J.Shultz were a pairing for the first 4 games.

    Through those 4 games Ference was 50%CF and J.Shultz 52%

    http://timeonice.com/mplayershots1314.php?team=EDM&first=20003&last=20055&hv=0

    Smid was 47.%% and Petry was 50%.

    I think the coach and GM made some bad decisions based when shitty goaltending was truly the problem.

    Now the D drowns even worse than the beginning of the year.

  158. Woodguy says:

    VOR:
    Woodguy,

    That was my puny attempt at humour. According to many posters here we need at least two D. Also, we aren’t as good a team as Toronto accord to many others. So if Phaneuf can’t take Toronto to the Stanley Cup and he is only one D man then Phaneuf can’t take us to the Stanley Cup. So which statement do you want to challenge? We need more than one D or that Toronto is a better team than the Oilers? It is a formal logic joke.

    Ah, sorry.

  159. Woodguy says:

    spoiler,

    Is Ference good enough to carry Jultz in his own end against second tier comp? I like the Captain but that’s a tall order till Jultz gets some experience under his belt.

    I think as a pair it would be ok.

    If that was the 3rd pairing on merit the Oilers would be a very good team.

  160. Woodguy says:

    Everyone should read Mike’s twitter timeline.

    Posting some Expected Goals for/against stuff.

    Fascinating.

    This is my favorite so far (because it validates my thoughts about this team finally turning a corner)

    Michael Parkatti ‏@mparkatti 1h
    Over their first 19 games the Oilers scored 39.5% of the even strength goals. Since then they’ve scored 53.8%.

    The follow up:

    Michael Parkatti ‏@mparkatti 1h
    I’d estimate the initial 39.5% Goal% over their first 19 games was about 75% goaltending, 25% otherwise. Their EG% was 47.7%. 52.3% since.

  161. spoiler says:

    Woodguy: spoiler, Is Ference good enough to carry Jultz in his own end against second tier comp? I like the Captain but that’s a tall order till Jultz gets some experience under his belt.I think as a pair it would be ok.If that was the 3rd pairing on merit the Oilers would be a very good team.

    I’m not sure you can play J. Schultz that little. I mean obviously you’re going to ram PP minutes down his throat game in and game out, but when he’s not getting into trouble into his own end, he’s absolutely gorgeous. Other than Hall, Hemsky, and Eberle. he’s the biggest threat to score when he has the puck on his stick deep in his own end.

  162. Woodguy says:

    spoiler: I’m not sure you can play J. Schultz that little. I mean obviously you’re going to ram PP minutes down his throat game in and game out, but when he’s not getting into trouble into his own end, he’s absolutely gorgeous.Other than Hall, Hemsky, and Eberle. he’s the biggest threat to score when he has the puck on his stick deep in his own end.

    That’s exactly like Yandle was handled for his first 5-6 years.

    3rd pairing comp at 5v5 and 1PP.

    He’s playing tougher comp now, but didn’t forever.

  163. Hammers says:

    My opinion for what its worth is neither Petry or Schultz will ever be 1st pairing “D” and why there so over rated is beyond me . .DEFENSE is our problem and until they trade something of value for a top “D” we are in trouble . I would still package Petry & #1 for a top “D” . At the rate Justin is going he will stay a 4-5-6 at best and if his on second pairing he better have a good partner . Give DD his due for this win and what the hell has happened to Hall . Looking the weak player on his line ?? Knee maybe . Injuries seem to find him .

  164. DeadmanWaking says:

    icecastles: Careful, we’re not allowed to acknowledge the existence of body language here. Apparently it makes guys uncomfortable being reminded that (a) people have emotions beyond pride and rage, (b) emotions can effect level of play, and (c) these emotions can be observed and noted by people other than their wives/girlfriends.

    With emotions, context matters. You can’t just notice one emotion in one situation and then draw any kind of confident narrative about why a person is performing well or badly, better or worse.

    Emotion is terribly complex. This hipster highbrow discussion was posted on Edge.org just a few weeks ago: The Scientific Study of Positive Emotion

    For example, we all think that positive emotion is something that should enhance our ability to creatively think about solving problems, that it just opens our repertoire to pick from different possible ideas or strategies. We find, though, that when people actually go beyond a critical threshold—hit a peak and pass that—they actually have a harder time solving problems effectively; they become more rigid or inflexible in their behavioral repertoires. It seems to be the case that too much positive emotion, thinking especially about these high arousal states of excitement and joy, actually leads us to become less creative.

    It’s not the easiest talk to process because she’s skating over the surface of the most recent research (I had to listen twice to piece the quilt together), but it does have some wonderful nuggets that stand alone.

    I wanted to start out with … a quote that I remember first seeing by Aristotle, who I often go back to and think had many of the most prescient, fascinating observations about human emotion. As psychologists we’re just trying to catch up now and sort of build some empirical data to really flesh out his observations. So he has this wonderful quote, and I’ll read it to you. He said, “Getting angry or sad is easy and anyone can do it, but doing it at the right amount, at the right time, and in the right way is not easy, nor can anyone do it.”

    When you observe those emotions out there on the ice–I agree that these emotions are sometimes transparent–can you also intuit on a snapshot observation that the emotion has occurred at the right time and in in the right amount for that person in that circumstance?

    When I played video games, there were always situations where I would keep making the same mistake over and over. Some part of the brain becomes conditioned to react in a certain way, and then the habit sticks like a dirty shirt.

    I would play a masterful game, but succumb to the same stupid thing that always tripped me up, and I would have mushroom clouds coming out of my ears. Then I would play another game and screw up practically everything I had long mastered, but manage to break one deeply ingrained bad habit, and I’d be pumping my fist in ecstasy because I had broken through some personal barrier.

    In real life, I’ve felt anger when I was tuning in. I’ve also felt anger when I was tuning out.

    I’ve posted this once before, I think, but it’s one of the best examples I’ve come across about how difficult it is to parse body language.

    Tanya’s Bow:

    Throughout the rehearsal process of Mahler’s Ninth Symphony with the Philharmonia Orchestra of London, I had been aware that one of the violinists had been sitting in an overly-relaxed, almost slouched position. By the time of the dress rehearsal, her posture, still unchanged, was in noticeable contrast to the other players, who were now fired-up and physically demonstrative. Although her playing was completely professional, the gut-wrenching intensity of Mahler’s final testament made her off-hand appearance, dispiriting in any performance, seem particularly incongruous in this one.

    At the end of the rehearsal, I went up to her and asked whether anything was amiss. Her response surprised me. “Are these your bowings?” she inquired. When I told her that these were the bowings we had used in our last performance in Boston, she commented, “The music goes too fast for all these bow changes. I just cannot get into the string.” Since I know how difficult it is to apply a fast-moving bow to the string with enough pressure to make a big sound, I suggested that perhaps we should take a slower tempo. But she was taken aback. “Don’t be ridiculous,” she remonstrated, “you should perform it the way you feel it. But you did ask.”

    So he does change the tempo right before the performance.

    During the performance, I frequently glanced in her direction and there in her seat was an impassioned, unabashedly demonstrative player totally enraptured by the music.

    After which he call her at home to thank her for her honest answer.

    Tanya seemed audibly shaken when I identified myself. She confessed that she had never received a call from a conductor at home before. She responded with delight as I expressed my deep gratitude for her contribution to our performance of Mahler’s Ninth. It emerged that Mahler was her favorite composer, that she was passionate about all his work, and that the performance we had done together was one of the high points of her musical life.

    Unless you go up and ask Tanya, you simply don’t know.

  165. godot10 says:

    sliderule:
    Lowetide,

    I have been keeping silent about J Schultz but since he came back from injury he has been sweet fuckin brutal.

    Can’t win a scrum,can’t receive a pass,looks lackadaisical.

    Where did the player I saw in ok city go?

    Did you happen to notice that the Oilers started getting the puck out of their own zone occassionally with a pass, and that they started winning a few games also? Things that weren’t happening when he wasn’t in the lineup.

    I don’t understand why they never gave Smid an extended trial as JSchultz’s partner.

  166. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    Draisatl is on Matheson’s radar

    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/12/01/this-n-that-edmonton-oilers-eye-prince-albert-raiders-centre-thinking-ahead-to-nhl-draft/

    Hazzah!!

    - Mark this down: the Edmonton Oilers really like Prince Albert Raiders’ German-born six-foot-one 210-pound centre Leon Draisaitl if they’re picking early in the 2014 NHL entry draft and general manager Craig MacTavish hasn’t dealt the first-rounder away.

    I just hope this is one of those times Matty isn’t speaking for the team out of turn… but that is hard to imagine because in this case the answer is obvious.

    Draisaitl is either this year’s Barkov or Monahan. Everyone is going to covet him, it’s only going to be a matter of if there are better players still on the board or if he is still available. There won’t be a single GM that wouldn’t love to add him to their depth charts.

  167. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    DeadmanWaking: Unless you go up and ask Tanya, you simply don’t know.

    Lovely and interesting as usual DMW.

    Speaking of music and Tanya… this is always a necessary and sufficient answer:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N7J6Y6k4EE

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