CANUCKS AT OILERS, G52 13-14

In the file of Oiler memories I can draw upon to say ‘at least it’s not as bad as that time….’ I’m down to Shayne Corson and Michael Largue, and I admit I’ve looked up Largue on twitter for fun. We’re on the bad side of town for morale, ladies, we’re two blocks up from the Poe mysteries.

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I remember the Canucks from the beginning, and it’s been a strange and unusual journey for the team. At the expansion draft they gathered good players and tried to compete right away, and won 24 games in year one (respectable). Vancouver has had ups and downs, but they’ve never been truly bad as a team, not really. Since Marc Crawford arrived as coach, the Canucks have been in the upper echelon of the NHL. If there’s one thread that has run through Canucks history for me, the kingdom of Sweden (Thomas Gradin through Markus Naslund and to the Sedins) has been it for me.

They are now exiting the window of Stanley opportunity, having won enough to get to another G7 of the SCF. Canuck fans are the only people I know who have  endured two G7 SCF losses (1994 and 2011) and my dear friend Gord Wilson passed before seeing them raise the Cup. It’s a tough team to cheer for, those Vancouver Canucks.

Ralph Krueger has a helluva reputation.

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Jonathan Willis has a nice piece up on the Hendricks deal and analytics, and I do think he raises some excellent questions. We know the Oilers look at the numbers, but we don’t really know where they use them and how much importance they put on them. The Hendricks deal can help in two areas (faceoffs and penalty-kill) and may aid in reducing the playing time for guys like the Nuge. Having Nuge come out after a PK makes more sense to me than using the young man in a penalty-killing role.  It certainly doesn’t counter Jon’s argument, but the idea of a 4th liner who can also kill penalties is a good one.

pitlick ferguson oneThe next callups should see Tyler Pitlick and Taylor Fedun join the party, and I imagine we’ll see that before the Olympic break. Edmonton’s trades last week tell us teams are beginning to make their decisions for the deadline, and the Oilers have to be ready to move pieces around to make room. The Dubnyk trade was a reaction to the Kings being ready to move on from Scrivens, and the Nashville trade looks (to me) as though it was a place to dump DD.

LAST 10 (25-40)

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25 goals in their last 10 games, everyone is off the pace a little here and the minus numbers also tell a story. Eberle has four goals, and there’s a set who have three (Hall, Nuge, Yak, Gordon) but this isn’t a team that has all of their cannons firing. The power play is ghastly, and among the things we don’t talk about enough in my opinion. How many games this season have been lost due to special teams? That area and goaltending are big damn issues.

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Here’s last 10 for goalies, chalk up 40 on the big board. They (goalies, defense) can’t possibly be this bad. I know Dubnyk struggled in his first Nashville game, but it’ll be interesting to see how much he regains his reputation in a new town.

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The Katz letter seems to have released more venom from the fanbase, but I think that was expected. The next step? It’s still in the fans corner, because the Oilers have made their situation clear. It’ll be interesting to see what happens at the game tonight. A win would certainly help, but the real reaction from fans will need to be more than booing. The Edmonton Oilers have the best fans in the world, we collectively have the faith of a child (that’s not being critical, that is a statement of fact) and perhaps this is a coming of age for fans and owner.

We wait.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

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It’ll be a lively show today, 10 this morning on TSN 1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Tyler Dellow, mc79 hockey. We’ll discuss Hall’s year and reasonable expectations for the rest of this season.
  • Mark Spizzirri, Puckrant and Sirius XM. What’s going on with the Red Wings?
  • James Mirtle, Globe and Mail. Ben Scrivens, Leafs on a roll, getting outshot and winning.
  • Andrew Bucholtz, 55-yard line. One of the CFL’s all-time QBs is retiring today, we’ll talk about it.

10-1260 on text, @Lowetide_ on twitter. It’ll be fun!

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  1. Gerta Rauss says:

    Pouzar,

    Yeah, I saw that earlier. No mention of Schultz or either of the goalies. If MacT can’t sign Scrivens I could see him moved along assuming there is a market. Ditto for Bryz although the return(s) won’t be overwhelming..our best bet is an injury between now and deadline.

  2. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Lowetide,

    Really disappointing effort so far. The Oilers look like they have nothing.

  3. G Money says:

    spoiler: The Oil were actually leading the Corgi parade (on 8 events) prior to the Canuckle’s first goal.

    Indeed. When this team does well for a period or a game, it gets fat and happy faster than any other on the planet. When things go bad, this team gets emaciated and depressed faster than any other on the planet. As Oiler fans, we might as well all be dating Britney Spears.

    Where’s that GIF Lois posted earlier?

  4. Lowetide says:

    Young Oil:
    Greg Chase didn’t play for the Hitmen tonight…not sure if anyone has mentioned this, does anyone know what happened?

    One game suspension

    http://medicinehatnews.com/sports/local-sports/2014/01/tigers-begin-trip-in-victoria-against-royals/

  5. G Money says:

    Where’s Rom? Hey Rom, I’m gonna go watch some STATS! Wanna join?

  6. G Money says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Pouzar,

    Yeah, I saw that earlier. No mention of Schultz or either of the goalies. If MacT can’t sign Scrivens I could see him moved along assuming there is a market. Ditto for Bryz although the return(s) won’t be overwhelming..our best bet is an injury between now and deadline.

    If they’re not tied down, they needs to go!

  7. spoiler says:

    G Money: Indeed. When this team does well for a period or a game, it gets fat and happy faster than any other on the planet. When things go bad, this team gets emaciated and depressed faster than any other on the planet. As Oiler fans, we might as well all be dating Britney Spears.

    They are a fragile group, no doubt about it. If only they had some top end vets to calm the icy seas. Instead we have Gagner. And Ference.

    (no knock on Ference, he battles hard, but he’s not a first pairing guy)

  8. G Money says:

    You know what the Oilers need right now?

    Hope and education.

    And a purpose.

    Hope, education, and a purpose.

    That’s the ticket.

  9. Pouzar says:

    G Money: If they’re not tied down, they needs to go!

    yup. I want a bottom 6 of Barons along with 4 new Baron dmen for the final 20.

  10. spoiler says:

    G Money: Hope, education, and a purpose.

    Every kid deserves it!

  11. spoiler says:

    I know Jesus saves, and he’s made some miracles tonight, but the play that sticks in mind is when he went walking into the corner to play the puck, bobbles it, and then was smart enough to whip back into the net rather than try to play it again. That was such a smart, self-aware play.

  12. G Money says:

    S*ck fucks, those Hockey G*rds.

    C’mon Gazdic, if that ch*cken shit p*nk bitch Kassian won’t fight, take the lumber to his face.

    Fans will take a collection to pay every last penny of any lost salary.

  13. spoiler says:

    No surprise that Hendricks, guy from a different team, is the deep forward supporting the breakout with a running half pick on the forechecker.

  14. Andy P says:

    I turned on the TV, watched the Nuks store a stupid goal on a hapless goaltender, and changed channels. A little later I dared to look at the TSN and saw they had scored again.

    They should pass a rule that allows teams to cancel the remaining games once they are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.

  15. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Man I feel for the people who pay to go see this crap.

  16. SK Oiler Fan says:

    dumb shot by ference right in to luongo’s bread basket with no traffic. Eberle was wide open beside the net. Can’t stand when dmen just put their head down and blindly blast away. Especially dmen with shitty shots.
    That was one of the best things Pronger could do. The half slapper with his head up shooting for a stick.

  17. spoiler says:

    G Money: S*ck fucks, those Hockey G*rds.
    C’mon Gazdic, if that ch*cken shit p*nk bitch Kassian won’t fight, take the lumber to his face.
    Fans will take a collection to pay every last penny of any lost salary.

    In a rare game without Henrik running their PP, the Oil should be taking liberties at every opportunity, including feeding Kassian fist sandwiches whether or not he drops his gloves–take the two and ten. Your name is Gazdic, you wear #20, and you are expendable.

  18. nez29 says:

    Nothing on the definite “sign” of revolt at the corporate office today?http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Sign+Oilers+discontent+attracts+passersby+police/9414384/story.
    The natives–at least the third tier ones–are gettin’ restless!

  19. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Hall should just get changed.

  20. G Money says:

    SK Oiler Fan,

    I don’t really blame Ference. Considering how often he’s the one out there doing the shooting should tell you everything you need to know about both the Oilers offense and the defense.

  21. spoiler says:

    Another point shot! Attaboy Martin the Martian!

  22. G Money says:

    Does it appear to anyone else that Arco has contracted Gagner’s Disease?

    Defensively, I’m seeing him pretty bad tonight.

  23. RexLibris says:

    At hockey rinks around the world fans have the tradition of standing up in a cascade around the rink with their hands held high in the air.

    When they do it they call it the wave.

    When Oilers fans do it they call it surrender.

  24. nez29 says:

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Sign+Oilers+discontent+attracts+passersby+police/9414384/story.
    Hmmmm…someone took their own dough and put a portable sign outside the Oiler corporate offices today. Then again, he was probably a third-tier fan, anyway ….

  25. Ice Sage says:

    Canucks are catching Oiler disease, all looked the wrong way on that play.

  26. SK Oiler Fan says:

    wow hall. how did the first one not go in?

  27. Lowetide says:

    Eberle (Hall, Gagner)

  28. delooper says:

    Howdee, so that’s a goal. Why don’t teams do that more often? Just have a bunch of players wipe-out in the crease and turn it into a firing range.

  29. delooper says:

    In my ideal world that probably wouldn’t be a goal. Luongo wasn’t really free to do his job there.

  30. G Money says:

    My desire for the highest possible draft position is warring with my complete and utter contempt and hatred for the Nucks.

  31. icecastles says:

    dang, I wish I could see this. :( Stupid Chanfeed and it’s dodgy feeds. Think I’ve relied on Jack Micheals for all but about 10 games this year.

  32. flyfish1168 says:

    Best player tonight Taylor Hall

  33. spoiler says:

    Huge swing in Corgi over the past three minutes. Bark my little beauties, bark!

  34. spoiler says:

    Jesus Gagner.

  35. teddyturnbuckle says:

    flyfish1168,

    Did you not see his 6 turnovers earlier on.

  36. SK Oiler Fan says:

    What has happened to Perron? He’s half the player he was. injury?

  37. Fixall with Rexall says:

    Garrison is a smart player

  38. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Oilers suck, again.

  39. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Been a while since I’ve seen the canucks. They’re pretty average now hey?

  40. Pouzar says:

    awesome.

  41. Fixall with Rexall says:

    Shultz is not a smart player.

  42. Ice Sage says:

    Canucks 2, Oilers 1. Same as it ever was.

  43. Fixall with Rexall says:

    Why didn’t he pass across? For a guy that plays so nonchalant he panics a lot.

  44. nez29 says:

    At least Luongo is looking good heading to Sochi…

  45. G Money says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Been a while since I’ve seen the canucks. They’re pretty average now hey?

    Yup, very average. And sadly, I do *not* mean that sarcastically. Also missing Henrik. Nonetheless, 3-0 against the Oil.

  46. Ice Sage says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Been a while since I’ve seen the canucks. They’re pretty average now hey?

    Yes they are. It’s a long way to average for the team that represents Edmonton.
    And since when do the ‘best fans in the world’ cheer for the visiting team?

  47. flyfish1168 says:

    Fixall with Rexall: Shultz is not a smart player.

    Schultz is soft and doesn’t fight hard for the puck when he gives it up.

  48. Pouzar says:

    Can’t believe the Sedins are 33 already. Crazy how fast time flies

  49. G Money says:

    Scrivens second star. Hmmm, half the goals he let in tonight were soft.

    Wait – Dubnyk must have snuck back into the Oilers net for that one!

  50. Fixall with Rexall says:

    These losses are the worst. Enough positives will be found to justify jobs, preach patience and stay the course.

  51. G Money says:

    Ice Sage: Yes they are. It’s a long way to average for the team that represents Edmonton.

    Also worth pointing out that they are one of the smallest teams in the West, and have a lot of trouble being bullied by the big teams in the West.

    Did I mention they average something like 10 lbs heavier than the Oilers?

  52. G Money says:

    On a positive note, I think N Schultz was only responsible for one goal against tonight.

    Small miracles.

  53. icecastles says:

    Scrivens: “I don’t want to look at the forest through the trees.”

    Best mangled metaphor I’ve heard in ages.

  54. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Agreed. Shultz made a midget type give away at the point after a great face off win with the goalie pulled. This guy is absolutely no threat from the point. Won’t shoot the puck because he doesn’t have a slap shot. I’ve seen better one timers at my beer league games.

  55. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Its official! Scrivens can’t see the puck through the trees!!!

  56. AZOIL says:

    Good night all! Oil lose! Will they start bringing up some auditions at this point? Also any trade talks for ganger yet? How long are they going to showcase him?

  57. spoiler says:

    If you look at the Fenwick game chart, it goes completely flat for the Oilers after the Canuck first goal right through to about a third of the way through the 2nd period. Other than that they were sawing off or beating the Canucks. Three or four goalposts, Schultz misses an open net, Ebs misses on a break, some great saves by Luongo and a Keystone Kop goal against-game could’ve went the other way despite the flat stretch. Other than that stretch after the goal when they lost their heads and couldn’t generate a single Fenwick event, even against the Canuck 4th line, I like their game far better tonight.

    Marincin continues to impress… one bad gaffe, but he covered it. And he express-delivered some rubber on the net from the point. That’s a pretty good game for a raw rookie playing a tough position with second pairing minutes.

  58. Kevin Lowe says:

    And lastly I’ll say that there’s one other guy in hockey today that is still working in the game that has won more Stanley Cups than me. So I think I know a little bit about winning, if there’s ever a concern.

  59. Ice Sage says:

    spoiler:
    If you look at the Fenwick game chart, it goes completely flat for the Oilers after the Canuck first goal right through to about a third of the way through the 2nd period.Other than that they were sawing off or beating the Canucks.Three or four goalposts, Schultz misses an open net, Ebs misses on a break, some great saves by Luongo and a Keystone Kop goal against-game could’ve went the other way despite the flat stretch.Other than that stretch after the goal when they lost their heads and couldn’t generate a single Fenwick event, even against the Canuck 4th line, I like their game far better tonight.

    Marincin continues to impress… one bad gaffe, but he covered it.And he express-delivered some rubber on the net from the point. That’s a pretty good game for a raw rookie playing a tough position with second pairing minutes.

    And Baghdad will never fall to the infidel Americans

  60. stevezie says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    What has happened to Perron? He’s half the player he was. injury?

    I have a theory. This is not a theory I believe, just one I’m putting up for discussion. It’s been fairly plainly demonstrated that fighters don’t prevent injuries. Maybe their true value is in enabling shit-disturbers like Perron?

    When he first got here he was a revelation: snowing goalies, slashing legs and never, ever, shutting the fuck up. It was awesome.

    Maybe he’s hurt, or maybe the losing has got to him, or maybe at some point he learned that almost no one on the team had his back. Oh, they’re mostly willing to skate over and hug people, but who will fly over and- not just defend him- but join him! Who else is destroying the enemy like he is?

    Last year I suggested to Kris that the value of Mike Brown was he lays it all on the line, and in situations like (but not limited to) sports it is important to know that everyone around you is willing to give everything that you are. Brown’s playing ended up being worse than advertised, but I’m still not sure that idea was the dumbest thing I ever said.

    Maybe, fairly or unfairly, the few physical players we have look at the rest of the team and think, “Why should I risk pain for you? You don’t do it for me.”

    Actually, I think I took it too far. That last part probably doesn’t apply to a team where everyone blocks shots and takes hits. The idea that David Perron doesn’t inspire people to punch him in the face as much any more because he has no back-up? I could believe that. Attitudes are contagious, and it’s hard play nasty in a vacuum.

  61. justDOit says:

    AZOIL:
    Good night all! Oil lose! Will they start bringing up some auditions at this point? Also any trade talks for ganger yet? How long are they going to showcase him?

    I believe that they would have to loan him to a real team, in order for this ‘showcase’ you speak of to happen.

    Beauty part of tonight’s game? I didn’t watch it. This ‘check in’ method works just as well, and the loss hurts less. The reddit Edm/Van game post is a sad place. Dys-heads applauding Kassholian.

  62. vangolf says:

    Eakins post game floored me in the way he tangled with the reporter asking why no engagement of kassian. In short, he said game was too close to take a stupid penalty. Earth to Eric bana, the season is lost. Who cares about a single game if it gives you the chance to make incremental change to your culture. Lose a battle to win the war FFS!!!

  63. hunter1909 says:

    Tuned in for 2 minutes during the 2nd period, it was just like I predicted with Tort’s now scary looking Nucks elbowing and shoving the oilers around while oilers acted like the skinny middle school kid.

    They they had a “power play” which last year was always exciting and positive…watched the same old for a little then switched the game off.

    Two minutes. Two minutes was all I could stand watching Katz’s clowns.

    “Oh we don’t need a Hartley/Hitchcock/Tortorella/ Sutter style coach because they don’t develop the kids”. = Lowe doesn’t like any alpha types. Eakin’s talks the talk, but shows he only plays the big stick role to kids like Yakupov. Players he feels comfortable bullying, in other words.

  64. art vandelay says:

    Agreed. Shultz made a midget type give away at the point after a great face off win with the goalie pulled. This guy is absolutely no threat from the point. Won’t shoot the puck because he doesn’t have a slap shot. I’ve seen better one timers at my beer league games.

    There was a time, when the Hairlip ruled, that sass-back like that would get you banned from the Oilers pressbox.

  65. rickithebear says:

    Scivens Save% in TORfrom Sure shot chart.
    0-10 ft 12% 31.5% better than league average.
    10-20 ft 14% 35% better than league average
    20-30 ft 10% 20% worse than leaue average
    >30 ft 4% 6% worse than leaue average.
    Elite inside 20 ft.
    Worse than average from distance.

  66. Woodguy says:

    vangolf:
    Eakins post game floored me in the way he tangled with the reporter asking why no engagement of kassian. In short, he said game was too close to take a stupid penalty.Earth to Eric bana, the season is lost. Who cares about a single game if it gives you the chance to make incremental change to your culture.Lose a battle to win the war FFS!!!

    I think its more important for the OIlers to take every opportunity to work on their system and their ability to stay in a game late.

    The more they work it, the more they will trust the system and knowing where everyone is supposed to be on the ice, and actually having them there is very important for this team’s future.

    Gazdic tried to fight Kassian, Kassian hid. Whatever, move on.

    I’d like to see Kassian’s teeth on the ice too, but I really respect what Eakins said and what he’s trying to do.

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