OILERS AT WILD, G50 13-14

The Edmonton Oilers began the process of making over their roster for the 2014-15 season yesterday, adding two players who should be regulars next season for the team. Ben Scrivens is the do-over on the deadline deal for Ben Bishop (that never happened), and Matt Hendricks is a player rumored to be on the Oilers shopping list last spring. So, they’ve added two pieces to the depth chart we talked about 24 hours ago.

PROJECTED 2014-15 LINEUP (13 of 23)

  • G: Ben Scrivens
  • D: Jeff Petry, Martin Marincin, Andrew Ference, Justin Schultz
  • C: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Boyd Gordon, Matt Hendricks
  • L: Taylor Hall, David Perron, Luke Gazdic
  • R: Jordan Eberle, Nail Yakupov

I also said this yesterday:  Craig MacTavish is going to blow this thing up, or at least as much as he can in the modern era. A few conclusions we can draw:

  1. Dallas Eakins likes truculence.
  2. Dallas Eakins likes former Marlies.
  3. Craig MacTavish’s vision may have some elements of possession in them, but the Oilers version of possession may have elements of the Kings/Bruins in it. Dump and chase, forecheck, that kind of thing.
  4. The Oilers are going to spend most of their bullets “up the middle” this summer, as they should.
  5. We should expect them to pursue free agents like Joni Pitkanen, Kyle Quincey and Matt Niskanen.
  6. There’s a chance Darnell Nurse makes this team in the fall.
  7. I think the Oilers may well be interested in Cam Ward. The rumor cam from Darren Dreger, and tsn was right about Ference, Clarkson and Hendricks last spring and summer. If they do plan to trade for Ward, and Eberle is the ask, there must be something else coming back because that’s not close to level in my opinion. I know there are Oiler fans who don’t hold Eberle at a high value (mostly due to contract), but I imagine the reaction would be universal and extremely negative if such a trade were struck between the two teams. Perhaps something could be worked around Ward and Justin Faulk?

jenny scrivens

One of the funnier parts of the Scrivens deal is his wife, who spent 3 years in Toronto and 4 in NY state before going home to Los Angeles and the warm weather. The tweet above shows that she’s a good sport and supportive, but it may also be a good idea for the Oilers to sign her husband before the trade deadline.

STANDINGS

standings

Buffalo is three points behind with three games behind, and they are playing much better under Ted Nolan. The Oilers could be in the basement by the weekend. I’m pleased with the Scrivens addition, and am hopeful Hendricks can help with the penalty kill, but the Oilers are in a bad way and will likely be sending away players for picks and prospects from now to the deadline.

First overall is something we should discuss.

WILD THINGS

  •  Minnesota has beaten Edmonton 41 times, the most W’s against any team the Wild has faced since expansion.
  • Mikko Koivu, Zach Parise, Josh Harding and Jared Spurgeon are out.
  • This info and more are here, from excellent reporter Mike Russo.

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HEMSKY’S INJURY

Matty has an article up this morning, and there’s a worry over 83′s foot. Gazdic’s shot hit him flush and the swelling is apparently pretty bad, we should know more by Saturday in Winnipeg. Matty also mentions the possibility of signing Hemsky, which we have discussed many times in the past. A wonderful result, if it comes to pass.

OILERS REMAINING PICKS

This site is brilliant for tracking draft picks and where they landed. Currently, Edmonton’s selections are:

  • 2nd overall
  • 116th overall (Mike Brown)
  • 122nd overall
  • 151st overall (Omark)
  • 152nd overall
  • 182nd overall

The deadline deals should add a few picks in the 40-100 range, I also think it’s possible the Oilers trade down a couple of spots and add a player or a pick. One thing in this area:  Aaron Ekblad didn’t skate like a Dallas Eakins defenseman last night, I didn’t notice that at the WJ’s but against the other CHL kids I thought he was average. I know, not a scout, saw him bad, etc. Still, that’s the first down arrow I’ve seen so thought I’d mention.

Saw him good? Lots of players posted impressive games, Sam Reinhart did a lot to help himself and I think Draisaitl looked good too.

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LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy show today, trades will do that to you. We’ll talk Oilers, NFL and more!

  • James Mirtle, Globe and Mail. We’ll talk about Ben Scrivens and the Eakins mafia growing in Oiler Nation.
  • Emilie Wiener from the legendary Hockey Wilderness. We’ll talk about the good old days when Edmonton and Minnesota played each other 40 times a year and Jacques Lemaire ruined fun. We’ll also talk about the impact of the Parise/Koivu injuries.
  • Jacob Dearlove will talk Denver Broncos as we get nearer the AFC championship game.
  • Andrea Carroll Papirny, The Brain Care Center. We’ll talk about brain injuries and the importance of making certain you’re properly protected before hitting the slopes/field/ice. Andrea will also tell us about a major event in Jasper this January in support of the cause.

We also have some other guests being lined up, so things are fluid this morning. @Lowetide_ on twitter and 10-1260 via text. Hope you tune in!

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  1. Derek says:

    Two Oilers behind the net and a guy wide open in front.

    Welcome to Edmonton Scrivens.

  2. Lowetide says:

    Marincin rookie mistake. In game 12. Nicely done, young man.

  3. Andy P says:

    Welcome, Ben, to life with no D!

  4. russ99 says:

    Why did Arco go behind the net? They can’t score from back there…

  5. LostBoy says:

    Eh, Marincin got beat on the forecheck, but credit where due. Granlund made an out of this world (if possibly somewhat lucky) play.

  6. russ99 says:

    Damn, now that’s a swarm defense. Take note, Eakins, they don’t let anyone have the puck without pressure for more than a few seconds.

    And it’s done with positioning and not frenetic movement that opens holes.

  7. finn_fann says:

    Petry does not get enough credit for his physical play

  8. book¡je says:

    Booorrrriinnngg

  9. Andy P says:

    I am liking what I see from Scrivens tonight, actually. I’m not blaming him for the first goal, “it” happens

    Edit: Marincin made an honest mistake, had no-one there to cover up for him. Yet I’m sure I would have been so charitable, unfairly, with DD.

  10. Bag of Pucks says:

    Woodguy: It’s the refutation that because hockey isn’t static that it can’t be tracked.

    See the emergence and dominance of fancy stats in basketball, which has a lot in common with hockey in terms of continuous play.

    I’m not your teacher.

    Thank Gord for that.

    http://danrosenbaum.blogspot.com/2005/08/using-statistics-in-basketball-bar-is.html

    “Tabulating statistics may very well be the best way to form predictions about the ‘repetitive hand/eye coordinating tasks’ of baseball, but applying those same techniques to the game of basketball which ‘involves constant maximizing interaction between optimizing actors’ may not prove to be as useful. The costs of a simplified model may be too high.

  11. VanOil says:

    Yakupov’s ability to get the -Minus is truly elite. Poor kid has been playing his best hockey since the New Year started but is still racking up the -Negs.

  12. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer 4m
    Time to change up the lines. NOT working with Hall-RNH-Gagner or with Yak and Eberle playing on same lane…zero passion. Wow!

    What about the “showcase”?

  13. fuzzy muppet says:

    VanOil,

    I’ve been watching him closely lately. He’s just got no luck. 8 of 10 times it’s someone else’s goof up that leads directly to a goal. Tonight it was Marincin. His play by eye is much more responsible and he doesn’t seem to bobble the puck as much as did did earlier in the year. He did have some of that in the last game though.

  14. leadfarmer says:

    I like Gagner but the way he is playing he might be out of the NHL in a couple of years. He’s playing even worse as a winger than as a center.

    This team has given up, even though for many of them their careers are at stake.

  15. Ryan says:

    How’s Gagner’s corgi been barking on the wing (this year) Woodguy?

  16. Ryan says:

    leadfarmer:
    I like Gagner but the way he is playing he might be out of the NHL in a couple of years.He’s playing even worse as a winger than as a center.

    This team has given up, even though for many of them their careers are at stake.

    Holy shlt

    Can I say I told you so, Woodguy?

  17. fuzzy muppet says:

    leadfarmer,

    This is why I think they are going to bite the bullet and move one of the kids as a huge wake up call to the rest of them. There’s so little passion it’s disturbing

  18. gogliano says:

    Can’t blame Dubnyk on that Marincin/Arco mess up but he looked pretty good on the last couple stops. More agile than usual.

  19. VanOil says:

    That Eberle kid might have a future.

  20. fuzzy muppet says:

    That play there is indicative of the OIlers. Yakupov flips the puck to the corner expecting his teammate to be skating hard and Eberle is just coasting making no effort to go get it.

    Of course now the Wild gift them a goal. I’ll take it!

  21. Andy P says:

    gogliano:
    Can’t blame Dubnyk on that Marincin/Arco mess up but he looked pretty good on the last couple stops.More agile than usual.

    Ahem. Scrivens is in goal, Dubnyk is playing in Nashville now.

  22. fuzzy muppet says:

    Yak gets screwed again. He makes the play to Eberle and gets no assist. No luck…

  23. sliderule says:

    Some of the oilers are playing like they have the flu or a bad hangover.

  24. LostBoy says:

    This is apropos of nothing, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a less enthusiastic overall goal celebration to make it 1-1 in a grim road building. Only Yakupov (natch) was beaming. The high five thing at the bench was barely participated in. Strange body language.

  25. fuzzy muppet says:

    That top line looks awful

  26. Derek says:

    Man the top line is getting annihilated to my eyes.

  27. Yeti says:

    Andy P: Ahem. Scrivens is in goal, Dubnyk is playing in Nashville now.

    Welcome to internet humour, Andy.

  28. jake70 says:

    Ebs does it again. I am sitting here cursing his lethargy in the D zone, and 10 seconds later he scores a beauty.

  29. russ99 says:

    leadfarmer,

    That’s cause he’s not a winger. He’s a center

    You can’t nail big 2-way center shoes on him, otherwise he’s serviceable. He ‘ll be a good player for a coach who knows how to use him.

  30. D says:

    So this is what steady goaltending feels like. I wonder how long this will last?

  31. stevezie says:

    fuzzy muppet,

    Yep, I don’t know how they missed that assist.

    Hey, is anyone else getting an add for a band called Five Years Further? That’s one of my best friend’s bands. He sprung for some kind of internet campaign. Check them out if you like man-rock. C’mon!

  32. fuzzy muppet says:

    Hall Gagner and RNH should ride the pine. Their effort is disgusting so far

  33. B-Dog says:

    Loving Minnesotas 4 vs 5 power play there.

  34. D says:

    Is that the Brodziak who was not good enough for Tambellini’s Oilers?

  35. gogliano says:

    LostBoy:
    This is apropos of nothing, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a less enthusiastic overall goal celebration to make it 1-1 in a grim road building.Only Yakupov (natch) was beaming.The high five thing at the bench was barely participated in.Strange body language.

    Seriously. Maybe he thought he had given Yakupov an assist by scoring.

    Looked like the kind of celebration you get when you’re down 9-0 and put in the 9-1 goal.

  36. stevezie says:

    Nice shift there. Good to hear them talking on the ice.

  37. Thinker says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    That is my thought behind fancy stats. I am a total math guy, but I can’t honestly use the math to evaluate players confidently. Goalies are different, they have one job, and as long as you take quality of shot into account, it is reliable imo. The only way I can justify using the math is for ranking players on their own team. What also gets lost a lot, I find, is that 82 games is a fairly large sample size. If a player sucks for a year, it is likely a good reflection of their play rather than just bad luck. I don’t hate stats, but I am wary of them.

  38. Andy P says:

    Yeti: Welcome to internet humour, Andy.

    Sure hope so.

  39. jp says:

    Marincin almost got burned badly there, but that was a nice play.

  40. fuzzy muppet says:

    The bottom two lines are working hard. The top two lines should take notes

  41. FTO says:

    The third and fourth lines seem to be decently effective at pinning Minny in their zone for long stretches… not a whole bunch of top notch chances for the amount of time they’ve been in there though it seems.

  42. fuzzy muppet says:

    Gazdic fails to clear, then Schultz fails to clear…then Scrivens pulls a Bryzgalov

  43. VanOil says:

    That 4th line tonight has been epically bad. Please Mr. Eakins park there asses for the rest of the evening.

  44. spoiler says:

    And the 4th line gets hemmed in and gives up a goal. 9 out of 10 Doctors say Gazdic will scar your vocal chords.

  45. B-Dog says:

    Top two lines don’t need to start playing til down by 2…

  46. jake70 says:

    If you recording the game….watch the 15-20 seconds prior to the goal, Ryan Smyth is wandering around like a lost puppy dog. Unreal.

  47. OilClog says:

    At what point do they stop show casing 89 on the top line and stick him on his ass. Ugly.

  48. fuzzy muppet says:

    That top line is fucking terrible. WHy are they being rewarded again and again?

  49. D says:

    Why is Gagner still with the Oilers?

  50. VanOil says:

    Cooke with the head shot.

  51. FTO says:

    well wtf, will we ever be good?

  52. Pouzar says:

    Yak screws up.

    *crickets*

  53. russ99 says:

    Nooo Yak!

    Hope he’s ok.

  54. Scotty LaDouche says:

    Pain.

  55. jake70 says:

    jake70:
    If you recording the game….watch the 15-20 seconds prior to the goal, Ryan Smyth is wandering around like a lost puppy dog.Unreal.

    Didn’t realize he is playing center so explains some of his wandering maybe…

  56. OilClog says:

    So confused by 4 & 93′s play.. No life

  57. Lowetide says:

    Well, Yakupov screwed up and that’s a deal for sure. He was to my eye having a reasonable game before that (but did make a poor decision on a drop pass very early in the game). I’m going to point at Eakins in that period, he played the 4line twice between 12:17 and 16:45 when Minnesota scored their second goal.

    That’s just stupid.

  58. Derek says:

    The fourth line has been horrible in their own end but at least they’ve had some sustained pressure in the Minnesota end. This really shouldn’t matter because “LOL FOURTH LINES DON’T IMPACT GAMEZ GUYS”.

    The top line has been horrible all over the ice, Hall looks like he read Willis’ most recent article on him and threw in the towel.

  59. Bag of Pucks says:

    If this was a C&W album, it would be called: Dallas Eakins and the Lost Boys – In Search of the Missing Will

  60. book¡je says:

    This goalie lets in soft goals. He sucks!!

  61. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    Well, Yakupov screwed up and that’s a deal for sure. He was to my eye having a reasonable game before that (but did make a poor decision on a drop pass very early in the game). I’m going to point at Eakins in that period, he played the 4line twice between 12:17 and 16:45 when Minnesota scored their second goal.

    That’s just stupid.

    They have this tendency to absolutely refuse to change. I think it must be a product of sitting so long. You probably lose track of how long you are out there/have more energy than regular players/want to steal as much ice time as possible… cause you may not get out there for a while.

  62. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Agree Hall has been terrible. Stop reversing it in your own end and get the puck up the ice. Yak looks brutal also. First of all why did he hang onto the puck so long before Cook hit him. Second get your useless ass to the bench and quit pretending you are hurt. Time to break up the top line. Eberle is the only one going in the top six.

  63. fifthcartel says:

    Eakins needs to stop playing the 4th line so much. There’s two barely (being generous here) NHL players and an old Ryan Smyth playing centre there.

    How does this make sense at all. Almost 7 minutes for Gazdic through two? I don’t understand, yeah they had one good shift but they’re still the 4th line.

  64. LostBoy says:

    Lowetide:
    Well, Yakupov screwed up and that’s a deal for sure. He was to my eye having a reasonable game before that (but did make a poor decision on a drop pass very early in the game). I’m going to point at Eakins in that period, he played the 4line twice between 12:17 and 16:45 when Minnesota scored their second goal.

    That’s just stupid.

    The strangest deployment of the fourth line was when Yeo used his timeout on the icing. Minnesota was running on fumes, trapped in their own end with a stickless player for a good 45 intense seconds, when they’d already played a full shift. The Oilers had fully changed on the fly once, and partly again. Yet he sends out Smyth, Gazdic, and Jones. Yeah, they sustained the pressure for a while. But…seriously?

  65. book¡je says:

    “Here we go again” used to mean here we go again losing the game pathetically. Now it means “here we go again wrecking another goalie!”

    Next up, the coach?

  66. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Smyth and Jones have looked great but Gazdic looks like he can’t make a play. This guy shouldn’t play more than 6 mins a night. Put a scorer with Smyth and Jones every second shift.

  67. FTO says:

    This just has not been Yakupov’s year, just hasn’t done anything for this roster. Hate to say i thtough.

  68. FTO says:

    Hahahahhahahahaha

  69. OilClog says:

    Wow

  70. fuzzy muppet says:

    Not Marincin’s best game…yikes

  71. Pouzar says:

    teddyturnbuckle: Smyth and Jones have looked great but Gazdic looks like he can’t make a play. This guy shouldn’t play more than 6 mins a night. Put a scorer with Smyth and Jones every second shift.

    I hope we move on from Smyth and Jones next year. Great guys but they can’t be on this team next year imo.

    Where the heck is Pitlick?

  72. Lowetide says:

    Oh, the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round…

  73. book¡je says:

    I haven’t seen the 2nd or 3rd (just score updates). Is Scrivens crying?

  74. VanOil says:

    teddyturnbuckle:
    Yak looks brutal also.First of all why did he hang onto the puck so long before Cook hit him.Second get your useless ass to the bench and quit pretending you are hurt.Time to break up the top line.Eberle is the only one going in the top six.

    In Yaks defense he had head maned to provide Eberle a passing option in the neutral zone. The pass did not come so he stopped up as to not go off side. That’s when Eberle found him flat footed. Yak screwed up but from a bad place he was put into by his line mates. Much like the entire team forgot to take there skate guards of to start the period.

  75. Pouzar says:

    Maybe we’ll win when I’m there in WPG….f^ck

  76. D says:

    I wonder if Scrivens will ask for a trade before he becomes a free agent.

  77. Andy P says:

    Are they deliberately playing like this, or are they really this bad?

  78. VanOil says:

    So far the Oilers have managed to take .100 off of Scrivens SV%

  79. book¡je says:

    So trade a kid or fire the coach? I think MacT loves the coach. Bye Yak.

  80. Cobbler says:

    Just as I thought Dubnyk was the problem all along.

  81. jfry says:

    i’m really enjoying all these trades. In that sense, this has been a way better season than the last few.

    so…there’s that.

  82. FTO says:

    I think I must be badly blinded by my love for my team but I just cannot fathom how we can be this friggin bad, It is truly amazing to me.

  83. D says:

    FTO:
    I think I must be badly blinded by my love for my team but I just cannot fathom how we can be this friggin bad, It is truly amazing to me.

    The badness is strangely entertaining.

  84. book¡je says:

    I think it’s pretty evident that the coach has lost the room. Perhaps the GM as well.

  85. D says:

    Maybe it needs to be a 5 o 3 for it to feel like a normal power play?

  86. fuzzy muppet says:

    Way to reward that lazy top line with the PP time on which they were lazy again. WTF is Eakins watching

  87. stevezie says:

    These games are a lot worse when you watch ‘em.

  88. book¡je says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    Way to reward that lazy top line with the PP time on which they were lazy again.WTF is Eakins watching

    WTF are Lowe and Katz watching?

  89. OilClog says:

    Nothing is making sense watching this team play. I don’t know if it’s ever been more difficult.

  90. Genjutsu says:

    Wow thank good Gord for beer!

  91. fuzzy muppet says:

    book¡je,

    I’d say they are watching the single worst team in franchise history. This team is dreadful

  92. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide:
    Oh, the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round…

    That should read coming off.

  93. Lowetide says:

    for the first time all season, I’m not convinced this coach makes it through the year. This is ghastly.

  94. FTO says:

    D: The badness is strangely entertaining.

    Like right now it feels like we could find a way to ruin Crosby if he got traded here, We are in the Bermuda Triangle of suck in the hockey world. Anyone who comes in dies a slow death or just barely escapes with their lives…

  95. VanOil says:

    Genjutsu:
    Wow thank good Gord for beer!

    I think I would have to be tripping balls to enjoy a Minnesota Wild game. The beer ain’t working.

  96. danny says:

    It’s really hard to come to grips with the findings that teams/coaching doesn’t have an affect on SV%.

    I mean, numbers don’t lie… but there’s gotta be minority cases in there that are getting lost in the interest of accruing large sample sizes.

    I really can’t adopt that logic when I see what a goaltender has to do in LA or MIN versus his reality in EDM. It just seems so obviously untrue. I feel like Mugatu at the end of Zoolander challenging people about the difference between Blue Steel / Ferrari / Le Tigre… am I taking crazy pills here?

  97. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    for the first time all season, I’m not convinced this coach makes it through the year. This is ghastly.

    I’m not usually one to make much of such things… but Scrivens was hardly ringing an endorsement of him when faced with a puff question about re-uniting with him.

  98. Andy P says:

    Good night everyone.

  99. D says:

    FTO: Like right now it feels like we could find a way to ruin Crosby if he got traded here, We are in the Bermuda Triangle of suck in the hockey world. Anyone who comes in dies a slow death or just barely escapes with their lives…

    There is no escape. They die. The slow. Death.

  100. book¡je says:

    I feel like that guy in Game of Thrones when he finds out that the guy who helped him get free is actually just tormenting him. The rebuild was just a tease. Hall, RNH, etc it was just a big lie.

  101. OilClog says:

    Genjutsu:
    Wow thank good Gord for beer!

    Good Beer Gord, for sure isn’t any of them Hockey Gord Pricks.

    Oilers need an exorcism, perhaps some voodoo work.

  102. Ben says:

    Fire Dallas Eakins. Hire Lars Eller.

  103. Cobbler says:

    Gagner on the pk! Really???

  104. D says:

    We should start an LT office pool. Which of the #1s asks to be traded first?

  105. Pouzar says:

    Lowetide: for the first time all season, I’m not convinced this coach makes it through the year. This is ghastly.

    Worst I’ve seen this year. WHat a soul-less team this is. All the losing hasn’t really bothered me as much as some but this complete lack of try is disturbing. I have no words for this sh!t show.

  106. FTO says:

    Lowetide:
    for the first time all season, I’m not convinced this coach makes it through the year. This is ghastly.

    Now that would be something else, I’m sure they just grab an associate coach for him though. If there was a stat that tracked playing with heart or conviction we would have to be last I’m sure.

  107. fuzzy muppet says:

    book¡je,

    That would be Reek….Big thrones nerd. In factI’m turning this off to watch that.

  108. gogliano says:

    Lowetide:
    for the first time all season, I’m not convinced this coach makes it through the year. This is ghastly.

    The low point on the season for me was Eberle’s reaction to the game tying goal. Very, very strange stuff.

  109. VanOil says:

    Lowetide:
    for the first time all season, I’m not convinced this coach makes it through the year. This is ghastly.

    Winnipeg has already won for Maurice and now are beating up on Calgary and have Edmonton next. Sure those are two schedule wins but it sure makes the new coach look good and wins the rooms trust.

  110. PREDICKTER says:

    Two happiest people yesterday, Dubnyk and some kid that will get drafted in the 3rd round.

  111. flyfish1168 says:

    Is yak hurt or is he benched??

  112. Ben says:

    You know who might’ve been an effective, experienced coach for this team? Craig MacTavish.

  113. fuzzy muppet says:

    flyfish1168,

    out for the game via principe

  114. danny says:

    I think Dallas Eakins should fight Kevin Lowe at the Oilers skills competition. Retirement match.

  115. flyfish1168 says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    flyfish1168,

    out for the game via principe

    I just started listening to the game. What happened??

  116. book¡je says:

    Pouzar: Worst I’ve seen this year. WHat a soul-less team this is. All the losing hasn’t really bothered me as much as some but this complete lack of try is disturbing. I have no words for this sh!t show.

    I am sure they are depressed that their friend is gone and their coach is not.

    Eakins was grinning after Jones fought. First smile I saw all season.

    Even if you want AN Eakins – this one isn’t getting it done.

  117. jp says:

    Where are the score effects tonight? We’ve gotta have SOMETHING to be positive about…

    Pittsburgh was apparently not in fact a turning point.

  118. Pouzar says:

    Good to see that win against PIT sprung his into an even loftier realm of suck.
    Please lord make it stop.

  119. VanOil says:

    danny:
    I think Dallas Eakins should fight Kevin Lowe at the Oilers skills competition. Retirement match.

    I love this idea.

  120. fuzzy muppet says:

    flyfish1168,

    Held onto the puck too long, got hit hard by Cooke, turned the puck over and hit his head on the boards. It went to the back of the oilers net as usual.

    These are the darkest days I’ve seen as a fan. Worse than the early /mid 90s. WHere is this hope we keep hearing about?

    Can you imagine what it’s like to be a Cubs fan?

  121. striatic says:

    so, Oilers have been involved in 6 of the last 16 NHL trades.

    how many of these trades involved a defenseman coming back?

  122. book¡je says:

    gogliano: The low point on the season for me was Eberle’s reaction to the game tying goal.Very, very strange stuff.

    Planned quitting?

  123. OilClog says:

    danny:
    I think Dallas Eakins should fight Kevin Lowe at the Oilers skills competition. Retirement match.

    Can it be JCVD Kickboxer style??

  124. jp says:

    Well that was… extremely sad. Welcome to the team Ben and Matt. Only 32 more stops on this death march.

  125. VanOil says:

    Only 8 days until a Coyotes game. It can get worse. Then Dubnyk will pitch a shut out on the 26th.

  126. fuzzy muppet says:

    I can’t wait to see the Parkatti numbers for the “top” line.

  127. fifthcartel says:

    Eakins made some very questionable decisions tonight. I like him, but I don’t understand some of his choices here.

  128. LostBoy says:

    I’ve expressed my views on Eakins a few times, and they haven’t changed: From the outset, I have yet to see really anything that makes me believe he’s a good coach. Maybe he is. But you write your own story, and his has been a disaster. Reasonable people, including the proprietor of this blog, had the Oilers ready to challenge for a playoff spot. You can revise and say poo poo, silly, that obviously wasn’t realistic in retrospect. But reasonable people thought it was. And Dallas Eakins has presided over this thing being flown directly into the sea, without even the early season tease we’ve had a few of these “rebuilding” years (instead, I guess, we got an early season Corsi tease). I have no idea if he’s really a good coach or not. I have no idea what the room is like. But you write your own script. This is a disaster. At various times people have tried to develop shot metric based cases for why things aren’t totally a disaster. I’m not sure how much their hearts have been in it. He’s been flameproof because of extraordinary circumstances: Krueger getting the shiv out of nowhere, MacTavish making his bold move.

    I’d be really happy if there was some indication that Eakins was the guy. [And I'm not saying everything that ails this franchise is on him.] Please, show me one. I wasn’t convinced the first time he opened his mouth, I’m not convinced now, and I just think you have to reach pretty hard to make a case.

  129. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Brutal effort tonight.

  130. flyfish1168 says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    flyfish1168,

    Held onto the puck too long, got hit hard by Cooke, turned the puck over and hit his head on the boards. It went to the back of the oilers net as usual.

    These are the darkest days I’ve seen as a fan.Worse than the early /mid 90s.WHere is this hope we keep hearing about?

    Can you imagine what it’s like to be a Cubs fan?

    Hockey gods hates us for winning to much before. The last true dynasty.

  131. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Don’t look now but here comes Buffalo behind us with 3 games in hand.

  132. book¡je says:

    LostBoy,

    Eakins was probably right about some key problems on the team and likely had some good systems concepts. He had some very particular approaches to ‘team building’ and getting but in from the players that likely lost their luster due to bad goaltending early. He doesn’t seem to have the ability to get the players back. I honestly wonder if Hall has led the revolt.

    He’s done. Either that or MacT digs in and trades the kids.

  133. VanOil says:

    A positive article on Kelfbom in a night of despair.

    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=701014&navid=DL|EDM|home

  134. flyfish1168 says:

    LostBoy,

    I agree. This is a tough league and a new coach with know true NHL experience as head coach. He is in way over his head.
    Even during interviews he doesn’t look comfortable and someone you have admiration too

  135. Bar_Qu says:

    There is no way that a person could have predicted that game from the Oilers tonight.

    They had so much grit in the line up, it should have been in the bag.

    Did Yak get hurt or did he grow sideburns? I was doing bedtime with kids until half-way through the third, so I only saw highlights from earlier then a steady stream of the first and fourth line to finish up the game.

  136. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    That was one hell of a stinker. I really can’t think of a positive to pull. Even 85 had an off game.

  137. LostBoy says:

    book¡je,

    Yeah, I’ll buy the perfect storm early. Maybe it would all have been different if we’d held that 4-2 lead over Winnipeg in Game 1. But my point remains. There has to be something. There has to be something at some point other than manly man posturing at press availabilities. Nobody, under anything resembling normal circumstances, gets to survive what’s happened this season.

  138. spoiler says:

    Halfway through this game, we were the better team and playing a team we could beat, despite not having the last match and the ability to hide players, and despite some individuals not playing well. The 4th line had succeeded for a couple of shifts and Eakins maybe went to that well one too many times… and then Marincin had a rookie game for a change. But after the WIld established that late 2nd period lead the Oiler players totally lost the thread of the game plan and started playing like a bunch of individuals, leading to some unwatchable hockey.

    It wasn’t as bad as Van in their 9-1 loss last night–every team can play like they’re skating through sand with their heads screwed on backwards–but losing the thread of the game again and devolving into a bunch of individuals is pretty worrying.

  139. Well Oiled and Enthusiastic says:

    Well, this will be hard to watch the next three months. The only Oiler giving 110% until season end will be MacT. LT, I’m going to side with you. I’m not sure Eakins survives.

  140. fuzzy muppet says:

    Bar_Qu,

    There were “highlights”?

  141. Bar_Qu says:

    fuzzy muppet,

    I saw Marincin splayed out on fresh ice as his mark was scoring. And SN kept showing pictures of Hendricks.

    Two things, I guess.

  142. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Nurse with an assist tonight.

  143. book¡je says:

    If MacT doesn’t get this team to improve, he can’t sign Scrivens and his #1s all ask to be traded. The coach is gone.

  144. jp says:

    book¡je:
    I think it’s pretty evident that the coach has lost the room.Perhaps the GM as well.

    Really, really wish I could disagree.

    D:
    I wonder if Scrivens will ask for a trade before he becomes a free agent.

    He’ll have to re-sign. No one else will take him once his numbers are sucked into the gutter.

  145. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Something has to give in the top six. Starting to think Nuge and Hall can’t play well without Eberle.

  146. Kevin Lowe says:

    And lastly I’ll say that there’s one other guy in hockey today that is still working in the game that has won more Stanley Cups than me. So I think I know a little bit about winning, if there’s ever a concern.

  147. book¡je says:

    For the record, I have consistantly flip flopped on Eakins. I like a lot of what he says. I just don’t think he is as good as he thinks he is at getting buy in from players.

    Honestly, I don’t know.

    I just feel sad.

  148. Woodguy says:

    Bag of Pucks: Thank Gord for that.

    http://danrosenbaum.blogspot.com/2005/08/using-statistics-in-basketball-bar-is.html

    “Tabulating statistics may very well be the best way to form predictions about the ‘repetitive hand/eye coordinating tasks’ of baseball, but applying those same techniques to the game of basketball which ‘involves constant maximizing interaction between optimizing actors’ may not prove to be as useful. The costs of a simplified model may be too high.

    Sure.

    For everyone one of those there are 10 of these:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1556819-the-ken-pomeroy-effect-how-advanced-metrics-have-revolutionized-ncaa-basketball

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-1028-nba-stats-20131028,0,6776428.story#axzz2qct4JwvF

    http://www.nbastuffer.com/component/option,com_glossary/Itemid,90/catid,44/func,view/term,NBA%20Teams%20That%20Have%20Analytics%20Department/

  149. justDOit says:

    Lowetide:
    for the first time all season, I’m not convinced this coach makes it through the year. This is ghastly.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Kfk5fqP6RoU/TfC3zq1qH7I/AAAAAAAAIVU/XMGCT2S4knM/s1600/GRUESOMES.PNG

  150. Woodguy says:

    Let’s not forget that the NBA put in cameras to increase the availability of information.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_tracking_(National_Basketball_Association)

  151. jp says:

    Kevin Lowe:
    And lastly I’ll say that there’s one other guy in hockey today that is still working in the game that has won more Stanley Cups than me. So I think I know a little bit about winning, if there’s ever a concern.

    Well thank God SOMEONE around this team knows a thing or two about winning. That sort of thing will permeate through an organization. I was beginning to get a little bit concerned to be honest, but that’s reassuring. Thanks!

  152. justDOit says:

    jp,

    Yup. A little knowledge of winning from 1979 – 1998 goes a long way. Us fans (even those of us who only subscribe to a ‘gray area legal’ streaming package), are blessed to have a PoHO like KLowe.

  153. Zelepukin says:

    i have no answers.

  154. jp says:

    Wow. Hendricks with 16:29 TOI tonight. More than Eberle, Perron, Gordon, Arcobello and Jones among others. I missed the first half of the game, but from what I saw he looked like a fairly good 4th liner (though playing on the 3rd line). Anyone have any notable observations about his first game?

  155. flyfish1168 says:

    News to help everyone here feel better . The nucks and the phlagms also lost tonight.

  156. RexLibris says:

    Zelepukin:
    i have no answers.

    Are you kidding? I’ve run out of questions!

  157. tcho says:

    My care meter has really been hit hard this season. It’s not a conscious or embittered decision. It is connected to embarrassment (15 wins and 30 losses? … Go Oilers?). It’s also connected to a lack of interest. I totally forgot there was a game on tonight. Didn’t watch it, PVR it. I couldn’t even be bothered to watch the highlights. I’m honestly not sure how much more I can take.

  158. Lowetide says:

    jp:
    Wow. Hendricks with 16:29 TOI tonight. More than Eberle, Perron, Gordon, Arcobello and Jones among others. I missed the first half of the game, but from what I saw he looked like a fairly good 4th liner (though playing on the 3rd line). Anyone have any notable observations about his first game?

    He shouldn’t be playing 16:29 a night.

  159. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    http://www.extraskater.com/game/2014-01-16-oilers-wild

    Marincin/Petry pair still came out roses in the underlying numbers.

  160. jp says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    http://www.extraskater.com/game/2014-01-16-oilers-wild

    Marincin/Petry pair still came out roses in the underlying numbers.

    Huh. Couple of obvious mistakes, but both still over 60%…

    Schultz and Ference. Wow. That is a LOT of events! Man.

  161. Genjutsu says:

    book¡je:
    For the record, I have consistantly flip flopped on Eakins.I like a lot of what he says.I just don’t think he is as good as he thinks he is at getting buy in from players.

    Honestly, I don’t know.

    I just feel sad.

    This sums it up for us all I think.

    So very, very sad.

  162. jp says:

    Lowetide: He shouldn’t be playing 16:29 a night.

    Well that much was clear. With the way some of the “top” guys are playing it really makes no difference though.

  163. Woodguy says:

    Fenclose last 10 games:

    Game FF%
    2014-01-16: Oilers 1 at Wild 4 36.40%
    2014-01-14: Oilers 2 at Stars 5 35.70%
    2014-01-12: Oilers 3 at Blackhawks 5 32.50%
    2014-01-10: Penguins 3 at Oilers 4 (OT) 50.00%
    2014-01-07: Blues 5 at Oilers 2 42.10%
    2014-01-05: Lightning 3 at Oilers 5 43.90%
    2014-01-03: Oilers 2 at Ducks 5 40.50%
    2014-01-02: Oilers 1 at Sharks 5 25.00%
    2013-12-31: Oilers 3 at Coyotes 4 (OT) 29.40%
    2013-12-28: Flyers 4 at Oilers 3 (SO) 38.10%

    That’s pretty remarkable.

    Amazingly bad.

  164. jp says:

    5 on 5 close CorsiFor%. All with >10 min TOI:

    Petry 75.0%
    Marincin 72.2%
    JSchultz 17.2% (that’s 5CF-24CA in 12.9 min)
    Ference 8.0% (2CF-23CA in 11.7 min)

    Almost 2 CA per minute. What does one say??

  165. Woodguy says:

    jp:
    5 on 5 close CorsiFor%. All with >10 min TOI:

    Petry 75.0%
    Marincin 72.2%
    JSchultz 17.2% (that’s 5CF-24CA in 12.9 min)
    Ference 8.0% (2CF-23CA in 11.7 min)

    Almost 2 CA per minute. What does one say??

    That perhaps Ference and J.Shultz are a worse choice for 1st pair than Smid-Petry and we are seeing the fruit of that?

    That the coach keeps throwing them out there as the first pair is a bit puzzling.

    Not that he has a lot of choices

  166. Colieo87 says:

    This is as a Lowe as we go. Enough already fire the president.

  167. Woodguy says:

    Series of Scrivens’ tweets: (read bottom to top, I’m too lazy to edit it, its just a cut and paste from his timeline)

    Ben Scrivens ‏@scrivens_30 11m
    5/4 I am to say that you are an Edmontonian. Way to make my family feel welcome.

    Ben Scrivens ‏@scrivens_30 12m
    4/4 married while I was playing in the AHL) or that she’s dumb (she’s an Ivy League and graduate school grad), just know I’m embarrassed

    Ben Scrivens ‏@scrivens_30 13m
    3/4 not in Edmonton now because she has a fulltime job in LA she can’t just up and leave) or that she married rich (even though we got

    Ben Scrivens ‏@scrivens_30 14m
    2/4 @AVPreports You’re gutless. And to those of you who commented on the article or tweeted at her about how she’s lazy (even though she’s

    Ben Scrivens ‏@scrivens_30 15m
    1/4 Hey @AVPreports, classy move writing a slam story by cherry-picking tweets my wife sent to make it seem like she doesn’t like Edmonton.

  168. Bar_Qu says:

    Colieo87:
    This is as a Lowe as we go. Enough already fire the president.

    You see, we keep saying “it can’t get any worse” and yet it feels like it does. A lot.

    (I do appreciate your pun and I even back up your resolution)

  169. Lowetide says:

    Huh. I read through her tweets and found the one I used (above). As I said in the article, sounds like a supportive person and there’s no story there. Good for Scrivens, that’s a bs move for sure.

  170. Woodguy says:

    So Eakins blames Yak for the 3rd goal via his turn over.

    Watch the replay (in the boxcar section of NHL.com game stats)

    Ference backs all the way from the blueline until the goal line and doesn’t engage anyone, including the goal scorer until the puck is in the net.

    But its Yak’s fault.

  171. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Woodguy:
    Fenclose last 10 games:

    GameFF%
    2014-01-16: Oilers 1 at Wild 436.40%
    2014-01-14: Oilers 2 at Stars 535.70%
    2014-01-12: Oilers 3 at Blackhawks 532.50%
    2014-01-10: Penguins 3 at Oilers 4 (OT)50.00%
    2014-01-07: Blues 5 at Oilers 242.10%
    2014-01-05: Lightning 3 at Oilers 543.90%
    2014-01-03: Oilers 2 at Ducks 540.50%
    2014-01-02: Oilers 1 at Sharks 525.00%
    2013-12-31: Oilers 3 at Coyotes 4 (OT)29.40%
    2013-12-28: Flyers 4 at Oilers 3 (SO)38.10%

    That’s pretty remarkable.

    Amazingly bad.

    Wonder what MC79′s “big data dump” is going to find in all this rubble in the off-season…

  172. Lowetide says:

    Woodguy:
    So Eakins blames Yak for the 3rd goal via his turn over.

    Watch the replay (in the boxcar section of NHL.com game stats)

    Ference backs all the way from the blueline until the goal line and doesn’t engage anyone, including the goal scorer until the puck is in the net.

    But its Yak’s fault.

    Ah, watched the video but didn’t see it. A coach is always going to blame the rookie, but you’re right the Eakins-Yakupov relationship isn’t going smoothly. I honestly think the kid is doing pretty well, which sounds insane based on the storyline.

  173. jp says:

    Lowetide:
    Huh. I read through her tweets and found the one I used (above). As I said in the article, sounds like a supportive person and there’s no story there. Good for Scrivens, that’s a bs move for sure.

    Yeah, she really didn’t say anything too negative. She sure does love LA though…

    Also, she was awfully excited about 4:00 games for someone with a full time job. :)

  174. Lowetide says:

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=85784

    Ryan Whitney just wished this fellow good luck with Edmonton

  175. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy:
    Series of Scrivens’ tweets: (read bottom to top, I’m too lazy to edit it, its just a cut and paste from his timeline)

    Ben Scrivens ‏@scrivens_30 11m
    5/4I am to say that you are an Edmontonian. Way to make my family feel welcome.

    Ben Scrivens ‏@scrivens_30 12m
    4/4 married while I was playing in the AHL) or that she’s dumb (she’s an Ivy League and graduate school grad), just know I’m embarrassed

    Ben Scrivens ‏@scrivens_30 13m
    3/4 not in Edmonton now because she has a fulltime job in LA she can’t just up and leave) or that she married rich (even though we got

    Ben Scrivens ‏@scrivens_30 14m
    2/4 @AVPreports You’re gutless. And to those of you who commented on the article or tweeted at her about how she’s lazy (even though she’s

    Ben Scrivens ‏@scrivens_30 15m
    1/4 Hey @AVPreports, classy move writing a slam story by cherry-picking tweets my wife sent to make it seem like she doesn’t like Edmonton.

    Embarrassing.

    Why on earth would we want two educated, successful young professionals to feel comfortable in Edmonton?

    Can we spam his twitter with comments of support?

  176. Zelepukin says:

    Lowetide: Ah, watched the video but didn’t see it. A coach is always going to blame the rookie, but you’re right the Eakins-Yakupov relationship isn’t going smoothly. I honestly think the kid is doing pretty well, which sounds insane based on the storyline.

    I would agree that he has been improving and it looks like a slow-but-steady pace, but the sad reality is the mistakes he does make, stick out like a sore thumb.

  177. jp says:

    Lowetide: Ah, watched the video but didn’t see it. A coach is always going to blame the rookie, but you’re right the Eakins-Yakupov relationship isn’t going smoothly. I honestly think the kid is doing pretty well, which sounds insane based on the storyline.

    So who’s it going to be? Yakupov or Eakins? Maybe they can patch it up and the kid can earn some respect, but he can do no good right now. I agree that he’s playing much better. Hall gets praise recently for his progress since the beginning of the year, while Yakupov gets called out again. It’s too bad.

    And how about Yakupov/Eberle? I’ve been trying to resist the idea that there’s an issue there, but I’m starting to wonder if it’s true. Just a guess, but I have a funny feeling that MacT moves Eberle before Yakupov.

  178. jp says:

    Lowetide:
    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=85784

    Ryan Whitney just wished this fellow good luck with Edmonton

    Not very inspiring if that’s the new hire. OKC depth I suppose. Or maybe this is the return for Nick Schultz.

  179. VanOil says:

    Lowetide:
    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=85784

    Ryan Whitney just wished this fellow good luck with Edmonton

    It could be that is the worst insult Whitney could think of.

  180. jp says:

    VanOil: It could be that is the worst insult Whitney could think of.

    Maybe. I wonder if he’s happier on the 27th place AHL team than he would be on the 29th place NHL team.

  181. hunter1909 says:

    Missed tonight’s game.

    This team flat out blows – check

    No one responsible will ever be held accountable, not so long as there are equipment handlers to blame – check

    Eakins blames Yakupov for the sun rising in the East – check.

    Missing Saturday’s game too, thankfully.

    Happy New Year.

  182. denny33 says:

    Lowetide,

    How long do you think it takes Eakins to find this out?

  183. denny33 says:

    Pouzar,

    I am wearing a paper bag…..

  184. denny33 says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Ten bucks says we see a positive spin on this game sometime tonight or tomorrow…..when do we play an eastern team again?

  185. denny33 says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    You have to be kidding?

  186. fifthcartel says:

    Is MacT trying to acquire every grinder possible to say ‘look we’ve been in on X out of the trades so far!”

  187. hunter1909 says:

    fifthcartel:
    Is MacT trying to acquire every grinder possible to say ‘look we’ve been in on X out of the trades so far!”

    A first class fan since 2007 with a pair of pricey season tickets can be milked out of something in the ballpark figure of 150,000.00 between now and oiler’s grand opening night in the Katz’s Babylon Ice Palace.

    It’s imperative that action is seen to be done.

  188. flyfish1168 says:

    I wonder how Nail is feeling. I hope he is O.K.

    I’m sure when he bounced his head into the boards his brain got scattered and he momentarily blacked out and lost function of his body movements. When is brain started to regain control his spatial awareness was trying to kick in and re-orientate his position. By the time this happens he is getting his strength back to pick himself off the ice and back to the bench. Nail is fortunate he was able to get up. Unfortunately Nail tonight will more than likely feel nauseated and have a headache. Hopefully this doesn’t last to long.

    For the dallas eakins and the brad mays of the world have some sympathy or are you guys unable to show any to this young man I ask. His health should be your guy’s concern not because he turn over the puck and not because he took so long to get to the bench. Shame on you guys.

  189. hunter1909 says:

    flyfish1168: I wonder how Nail is feeling. I hope he is O.K.

    He will be perfectly fine. Yaks is made out of the same DNA that hammered Von Bock’s and the rest of the German Army in 1941 at Moscow, 1942 Stalingrad, 1943 at Kursk etc.

    I’ll say it again: Glad to hear MacT seems to want to keep the young players including Yaks together, nevertheless too bad for everyone else that a 7 year out of the playoff team led by 2nd + 3rd year players has to be managed by a pair of freaking ROOKIES in GM/Head Coach.

  190. russ99 says:

    Woodguy,

    But hey, stay the course, no need to change anything were doing…

    I’m wondering if MacT’s insistence to stick with Eakins and his ideas could eventually cost him his job.

    Heck, MacT didn’t coach like this, he was vastly better.

  191. book¡je says:

    Sigh, so Scrivens welcome to Edmonton is as follows.

    Plays game behind defeated disinterested team and sees his save percentage take a hit.

    See’s his wife get more media coverage and twitter attention than she ever has with much of it having a negative tone.

    Ok, Scrivens is gone over the summer. Who else is out there who is a goalie. We need to trade for someone on a contract because nobody will come here voluntarily.

  192. jp says:

    flyfish1168:
    I wonder how Nail is feeling. I hope he is O.K.

    I’m sure when he bounced his head into the boards his brain got scattered and he momentarily blacked out and lost function of his body movements.

    What am I missing? Did Nail have and “accident” on the ice last night?

  193. Pouzar says:

    I worry about Nail. Love his skill set and his obvious passion but I just don’t see the hockey sense.
    I see a lot of support for the guy here and that he’s getting better but I worry. I hope I am wrong about the guy. Of course I thought Daigle was “can’t miss” too so no worries.

    Anyways, see the Peggers at the game…GO OILERS GO!!!

  194. godot10 says:

    jp: So who’s it going to be? Yakupov or Eakins? Maybe they can patch it up and the kid can earn some respect, but he can do no good right now. I agree that he’s playing much better. Hall gets praise recently for his progress since the beginning of the year, while Yakupov gets called out again. It’s too bad.

    MacT is trying to sell the narrative that Hall is playing better under Eakins, but recent (though arguably still preliminary) work by Staples, Willis, and mc79 suggest that Hall is playing worse under Eakins than he did under Krueger or under Renney.

    Lying to the media and public is really part of the job description of the GM. I said this with regards to Tambellini, and I will say it again now. It is in the job description of the GM to lie, but as with Tambellini, we should recognize that they are the lies that GM’s must tell to the media and public. Just pray that the GM doesn’t believe his own spin.

    So a player gets hurt during the game. And let’s say he made a mistake on one of the many goals against during the hockey game. The team, as a whole, was awful. And the coach chooses to single out one player when his post-games comments are disambiguated, and it is the injured player, over everyone else, who were pretty much universally awful.

    That is one fine human being, that coach. I would run into burning houses for that coach.

  195. russ99 says:

    The olympic break is the only thing that can pull us out of this, but something drastic needs to be done (changing assistants?) to give everyone a fresh start when they come back, so they can treat the rest of the year as a different season.

  196. Woodguy says:

    godot10,

    Gord help me Godot, I’m coming around to your opinion on Eakins.

  197. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide:
    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=85784

    Ryan Whitney just wished this fellow good luck with Edmonton

    Reinforcements for OKC for when EDM sells off the FA’s and brings up kids to play out the string?

  198. book¡je says:

    Woodguy:
    godot10,

    Gord help me Godot, I’m coming around to your opinion on Eakins.

    Sure, but you are basing your assessment on observation and results, not an obsessive love of Ralph Kruger.

    I have flip flopped on Eakins. I think he lost the players early with an over the top “Guys, I’m serious” attitude. He’s done. If MacT isn’t strategizing about the best time and way to fire him then he is not a competent GM.

    There’s no logical way this is about 23 guys were unwilling to back check. It’s about failed communication and players having lost faith in the coaches.

    It’s done. MacT needs to bring in an interim vet coach who will rebuild the ‘team’ aspect of this group or the kids are gone (Yak may be lost already). Then he needs a coach who can get the respect of the players.

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