ENTRY DRAFT ’14: DEATH RATTLE FOR DRAISAITL

If there’s one thing we can be sure of this spring and summer, it’s a build toward the Entry Draft. Since 2010 spring, the draft represents the climax of the season for Oiler fans, making them unique in the NHL. No other team can boast their ability to secure a head table at the annual youth movement. Since 2010, Edmonton has selected 1st, 1st, 1st and then 7th overall. This season? 3rd. How do the Oilers feel about it?

  • MacT on picking third: “I’m not devastated by it, that’s for sure.  It’s very debatable which players will be the best players over time. I didn’t want to drop back to No. 4. That was the important thing.”

Hmmm. Most of us have identified a top four or five, but the Oilers have a top three. Top 3? Is there any way we could know what they’re thinking?

matty draft

Now, let’s be clear: The Oilers may have changed their minds at some point, and Sam Bennett may be taken 1st or second overall, leaving the Oilers with a choice of two of their top three. I would guess the Oilers list is Ekblad, Draisiatl, Reinhart based on this Matty tweet. From what we read, the players with the widest range of skills are Ekblad and Sam Bennett, so if the club is drafting Draisiatl it would be for size.

PROJECTED TOP 4 DRAFT ELIGIBILES VOLLMAN NHL EQUIVALENCIES (per 82gp)

  1. Sam Bennett (OHL) 16-23-39
  2. Sam Reinhart (WHL) 13-24-37
  3. Leon Draisaitl (WHL) 13-22-35
  4. Aaron Ekblad (OHL) 10-12-22

I think we can reasonably assume that the Oilers won’t let Ekblad get past them. If he falls to #3, one imagines Craig MacTavish racing up the steps to call out his name. This despite the revelation Saturday from Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds GM Kyle Dubas that the organization is proceeding as if Darnell Nurse will not return from Oilers training camp in the fall. Dubas told me they’re assuming Nurse will be in Edmonton for at least the 9 games allowed before burning a year of the entry level deal.

I’ll be replaying that interview this morning on the Lowdown. Dubas and the Greyhounds also use advanced stats, and we discuss it in the interview.

nurse 2013The right call on Nurse? Send him back to junior, and while you’re at it, send the guy selected third overall back, too. The Oilers would be wise to use their ‘rookie slots’ on Nail Yakupov, Anton Lander and Martin Marincin, with Oscar Klefbom an early callup option. There’s inexperience on this roster as it stands idling in the driveway, no need to add another teenager to the troubles.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

10 this morning, we’re off and running on a variety of subjects at TSN 1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Scott Burnside, ESPN. We’ll talk playoffs and coaching changes.
  • Kyle Dubas, SSM Greyhounds. Paul Almeida and yours truly had a chance to discuss Nurse, advanced stats and this year’s draft.
  • Jeff Hauser, Radio Hauser. NFL draft, including Johnny Football’s draft range and what dumb teams do.
  • Iain MacLean, Head Coach of the Edmonton Huskies. Spring camp is wrapping up, we’ll talk about last season’s successes, the current roster and the season to come.

Will also try to get Corey Graham on the phone, but I think he’s flying in from Portland this morning. 10-1260 via text, @Lowetide_ on twitter.   See you on the radio!

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  1. Ca$h-Money! says:

    MacT:

    For the love of all that is holy please send the #3 pick back to Junior, along with Nurse. I don’t care who he is. I don’t care if he is better than other options on the roster; that just means we need to get better older players.

    It doesn’t matter if this kid (or Nurse) is ready for the Oilers. The Oilers aren’t ready for this kid.

    Sincerely,

    Every Oiler fan tired of waiting for teenagers to save the day.

  2. leadfarmer says:

    If the NHL cares anything about developing these young players they need to put an AHL exception for the top drafted players. Something like top 5 can play in AHL post draft year, 5-10 can play in the AHL one year after the draft. Nurse is too good for junior but not ready for NHL and could easily use 2 years in the AHL to grow.

  3. Woodguy says:

    Burnside wrote a scathing piece on Gaborik and how he was a bad pick by LAK.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/29462/kings-wont-be-much-better-with-gaborik

    Not that you want to get into the habit of pointing out your guests’ failures, but I wonder if he’s changed his tune with Gaborik having 8pts in 8 playoff games.

  4. Woodguy says:

    Don’t forget that Gaborik when 19gp 5g 11a 16pts to finish off the regular season after being traded to LAK as well.

  5. Woodguy says:

    Are you people assuming the Edmonton Oilers will rush young players and put them in position to fail instead of position to succeed?

    The hell you say!!

  6. Ca$h-Money! says:

    Woodguy:
    Don’t forget that Gaborik when 19gp 5g 11a 16pts to finish off the regular season after being traded to LAK as well.

    The thing I didn’t understand about people disliking that pick up is it ignores Garborik’s history. He has this reputation as being a 1 dimensional scorer, but the reality is his entire career has been spent playing for defense first teams: Minny, Columbus, NYR under Torts, and now Sutter’s Kings. Seems like a guy who knows how to be the offense in this type of system.

  7. Younger Oil says:

    Like everyone else, I hope that both the pick and Nurse will be sent back to junior, and while I still think that it is very possible that Nurse gets sent back to junior (probably after 9 games though), I think if the #3 pick is a center, he will be with the Oilers to start the year, unless we are able to add a quality center in the offseason.

    If we pick Ekblad, unless we add a top pairing RHD he will probably be on the team to start the year, which would be unfortunate because it would be pretty exciting to see Nurse and Ekblad as the top D pairing for Canada at the WJC.

    No matter what happens, the Oilers are going to get a great player this draft. The only way they lose is if they trade the pick for an older quality player who will be on the decline in a couple of years, but I think MacT is smarter than that.

    The scariest thing about this pick is that we are essentially picking for us and Calgary, and we have to decide if we are better off for the next decade having Nuge and Draisaitl against Monohan and Bennett, or Nuge and Bennett against Monohan and Draisaitl.

    Here’s a question: If you could get the #4 OV from Calgary by trading them the 2015 1st and a prospect/Gagner, would you do it? Deprive them a quality center now, but likely increase their odds of getting McDavid by 5-10%…

  8. WeirsBeard says:

    Ca$h-Money!: The thing I didn’t understand about people disliking that pick up is it ignores Garborik’s history.He has this reputation as being a 1 dimensional scorer, but the reality is his entire career has been spent playing for defense first teams: Minny, Columbus, NYR under Torts, and now Sutter’s Kings.Seems like a guy who knows how to be the offense in this type of system.

    Especially since all LA need from him was goals, after all, this was a team that scored less than the offensive juggernaut that is the Oilers. They had all the defensive play they could handle.

  9. Numenius says:

    “From what we read, the players with the widest range of skills are Ekblad and Sam Bennett, so if the club is drafting Draisiatl it would be for size.”
    ——-

    In addition to size, the Oil could possibly see Draisaitl as having more upside (though more risk) than Bennett or even Reinhart.

  10. WeirsBeard says:

    Feeling good about the Oilers draft position. As long as they pick one of the top group and dont go wildly off board, they should be getting a quality player, who also fills a position of weakness in the organization. Hopefully, the team is better when they graduate too, so they are allowed to move up the lineup as they develop, not by necessity.

  11. nycoil says:

    Still think the right call is to add two of Niskanen, Hainsey, Markov, Nikitin and send Klefbom back to OKC to be a 25min per night top pairing D until at least after Christmas or until one big injury. Marincin should be the only rookie blue when they break camp. Even if they draft Ekblad.

    But the tea leaves suggest they are going to have both Klef and MM with the big club unless one leaves in a trade, and that means with Schultz around 3 out of 7 are going to be mistake-prone and green. Heaven forbid they keep Nurse up here, too. Good Gords please do what you say you will and actually follow Detroit’s model, not the Islanders/Panthers/Oilers model of sending rookies who look good in short stints in the deep end! It has to stop. (Gagner, Lander, Schultz…Klef, Nurse, Ekblad?!)

  12. FastOil says:

    Ca$h-Money!: The thing I didn’t understand about people disliking that pick up is it ignores Garborik’s history.He has this reputation as being a 1 dimensional scorer, but the reality is his entire career has been spent playing for defense first teams: Minny, Columbus, NYR under Torts, and now Sutter’s Kings.Seems like a guy who knows how to be the offense in this type of system.

    Lombardi said at the time the Kings needed an elite talent, referring to Pat Kane. Being an actual thinking and observant human being in his GM’s job, unlike so many of his peers, it seems he didn’t have a two way expectation on his acquisition. Looks like his thinking was on the mark. They would be gone without his contribution likely.

    I hope so much MacT turns into that and the erratic decision making stops, whomever the culprit.

  13. BasketKate says:

    There’s a sick, sad part of me that cries out “no!” to Nurse and #3 pack to junior….that wants both on the team to be cheered on to rookie of the year! (SUCH GLORY I DREAM OF!) This part of me is like a poison. It’s rooted in desperation for NEW and EXCITING. Anything to look forward to.

    But imagine, just for a moment, cheering for a team that improves with a few added veterans and the maturing of the young players already on the team. Imagine there’s a world where Nurse and #3 are allowed to develop one more year; who will then wait in the wings to join an Oilers team that is actually improving…that has already tasted some success (even if that’s just missing out on the playoffs).

    Imagine adding young, potential stars to a team NOT drenched in abject failure year after year. Imagine if you dare!

    Or you can dream like I do that whichever player we pick at 3 will refuse to come to the podium… :/

    Also; does anyone else wish that Draisaitl rhymed with dreidel?

  14. PaperDesigner says:

    I don’t have a problem with starting Nurse in a handful of games. Especially if you plan to give him only up to nine games, to give him a feel for the level he needs to get to, and nothing more.

    Conspicuously, in his second season of eligibility for NHL employment, Pietrangelo played exactly nine games, and the rest of his year in junior. He was full-time in the NHL (and scoring!) in the year after that.

    I would say that’s not a bad template to follow.

  15. Ribs says:

    …so if the club is drafting Draisiatl it would be for size.

    Well that always seems to work out.

  16. G Money says:

    PaperDesigner,

    Yes. Leaving aside the occasional instant successes on D, I would say the vast majority of good to great NHL defenders became that way through development and not just talent.

    In addition to Pietrangelo, I also look at Seabrook and Keith. Seabrook played his full four years in the WHL before jumping to the NHL. Keith played two full years in the AHL before doing the same.

    The fact that both those guys were fully developed and then had an additional couple of years of NHL experience BEFORE the Hawks brought Toews & co. into the fold played a massive part in their rapid development into a contender.

    Conversely, it is the continual decline in depth and quality of the NHL D for the Oilers that I think is a/the primary culprit in InfiniBuild(tm).

    We have a chance to fix it. Patience is required. Patience means letting Nurse develop another year in the WHL, then a year in the AHL. It means sending Klefbom back to the AHL for another year. And it means letting the #3 pick, whoever it is, also develop slowly and fully – not the least of which is for the fact that it means that player can contribute to InfiniBuild v2 under an ELC, just like Nurse.

  17. G Money says:

    Ribs,

    The opposite hasn’t exactly worked gangbusters either.

  18. Rondo says:

    With Leon the professional , Oilers would be drafting weight not size.

  19. Hammers says:

    Unless the message was wrong Nurse was up & down in his games in OKL . Not sure he should even get the 9 games as he may look UP for the first batch and then slide back .As for the 3rd pick it will still depend on the offers that come in . We probably use the pick but I won’t be surprised if Philly makes a good offer for a top 3 or 4 pick . Not a bad problem to have . As for any of this years top 4 staying up look at Monahan at #6 let alone McKinnon or Jones etc .

  20. Bag of Pucks says:

    Rondo:
    With Leon theprofessional , Oilers would be drafting weight not size.

    And that’s a draft strategy that does seem to work pretty well for the Bruins.

    Peter Chiarelli said that the Bruins tend to target heavier players when it came to the draft, finding that a prospects weight had a better correlation to NHL success than height, referencing the advantage for players with a lower centre of gravity.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=389630

  21. Rondo says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Interesting,

  22. Woodguy says:

    All,

    Let’s not denigrate Draisaitl due to his size.

    He did score 105pts in 64gms (1.64pts/gm) on a meh PA team.

    The nearest forward to his point production on the team was .92pts/gm by undrafted ’94 Conroy.

    He wasn’t working alone, but the help was limited outside of Morrisey.

    To get all upset about the Oilers interest in him or calling him a coke machine is a disservice to the player.

  23. Woodguy says:

    Bag of Pucks: And that’s a draft strategy that does seem to work pretty well for the Bruins.

    Peter Chiarelli said that the Bruins tend to target heavier players when it came to the draft, finding that a prospects weight had a better correlation to NHL success than height, referencing the advantage for players with a lower centre of gravity.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=389630

    Thanks for that.

    Good stuff.

  24. Marcus Oilerius says:

    Woodguy:
    He did score 105pts in 64gms (1.64pts/gm) on a meh PA team.

    Didn’t he go about 2 points per game over the last 20 games? Someone was saying something like that.

    edit:

    Correction, 48 points in his final 22.

    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2014/03/19/scouting-report-top-prospect-leon-draisaitl-impresses-in-biggest-game-of-the-season/

  25. Rondo says:

    Woodguy:
    All,

    Let’s not denigrate Draisaitl due to his size.

    He did score 105pts in 64gms (1.64pts/gm) on a meh PA team.

    The nearest forward to his point production on the team was .92pts/gm by undrafted ’94 Conroy.

    He wasn’t working alone, but the help was limited outside of Morrisey.

    To get all upset about the Oilers interest in him or calling him a coke machine is a disservice to the player.

    The reason I pause with Draisaitl is due to the fact that he has been ranked so far anywhere from 4-6. The other top 3 have all been ranked anywhere from 1-3.

  26. Marcus Oilerius says:

    I dunno, at this point the player I’m least excited about is Reinhart.

    Bennett plays big. Draisaitl is big. Ekblad is very big. Dal Colle is big.

    Reinhart is not-quite-Nuge.

  27. commonfan14 says:

    Interesting to note that, of the 8 Forwards drafted in the top-10 last year, only 2 of them returned to Junior.

    If the pick isn’t Ekblad and he gets sent back, the Oilers will actually be bucking a trend.

  28. knighttown says:

    I spent a few hours poring over video of the 3 centres who I’d never really seen play. I think, based on the #’s and birthdates I had them as Bennett, Reinhart and Draisatl before I started watching.

    I watched Bennett first and came away seeing a Tyler Seguin style player. He looks like an excellent skater but was most impressed with his puck handling at speed. Really quick first few steps. I see a bit of Jonathan Drouin in him as well…see a lot of the Mooseheads here. No where near as magic with the hands but MUCH better without the puck.

    Watching Reinhart reminds me of the Nuge but without the sublime skating and dogged determination on the back check. I also don’t see much of a shot. This guy is very clearly a passer. I’ll be honest…I don’t like him much. How many guys without elite skating, size or shot become true difference makers at 5 on 5? I kind of have his range from Sam Gagner to Nick Backstrom. I may regret this but he’s not in my Top 3 and I’d consider Dal Colle before him too.

    Was prepared to be disappointed by Leon but he looks outstanding. His ability to slow the play down and fend off checkers would be unique on this team. We’re so used to guys losing balance on the first bit of contact and having the play or cycle end. This guy reminds me of Jagr in that he welcomes the first bit of contact and then rolls off it. His passing looked to be every bit as good as Reinharts and his shot looked great too. His skating looked fine…not elite of course but not bad once he gets to top speed.

    This team simply needs to get better in the half court game and a guy like Draisaitl has the potential to be our best guy off the cycle. He’ll need a puck transporter but we’ve got a few of them already. Really like Bennett too and would be OK with either of them.

    My first pick is Ekblad because, to me the game has changed so much that a boss defenseman is THE key. He may not put up the points of a Doughty but give me 24 minutes of even strength and PK and let Shultz handle the PP.

    KT’s draft list:
    1. Ekblad
    2. Draisatl
    3. Bennett
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    .
    .
    .
    4. Dal Colle

  29. rich says:

    Interesting that I’m less concerned about the draft and more interested/concerned about what may happen with Klefbom and Nurse at the start of next season.

    Absolutely would not shock me if Nurse gets a 9 game stint before being sent back to juniors next year. And in saying that, I would ask what the value? From what everyone said re: his AHL stint, it was obvious he had some work to do learning the game/adjusting to the size and speed of the game. Given this, can so much change between now and October that he overcomes those issues and he’s proclaimed ready?

    Not asking to be a jerk – just asking to ascertain the value of starting someone on the roster who is not ready for the best league on the earth. D-men develop much slower, why are we rushing him?

    Klefbom would also likely benefit from playing big minutes in the AHL to start the season and then be the first call-up when there’s an injury as well but I think this decision will come down to what the Oilers do this summer in either free-agency or the trade market and we’ll have a better idea by early to mid-July.

    If Ekblad is there at 3 and he’s the best man available on your board, then trust your board and take him. If both Draisitl & Ekblad are there I don’t think you can go wrong.

  30. fifthcartel says:

    Woodguy:
    All,

    Let’s not denigrate Draisaitl due to his size.

    He did score 105pts in 64gms (1.64pts/gm) on a meh PA team.

    The nearest forward to his point production on the team was .92pts/gm by undrafted ’94 Conroy.

    He wasn’t working alone, but the help was limited outside of Morrisey.

    To get all upset about the Oilers interest in him or calling him a coke machine is a disservice to the player.

    I think this is a very good point. He almost scored a point per game at even strength, and I think some of the skating concerns might be overblown. His size is added bonus.

    Also,

    http://cekujto.com/VIDEO_SK/GIF/75.gif

    Did anyone see this Marincin goal at the WC? Please let him survive the summer, MacT.

  31. jayzz says:

    I am completely against starting nurse for 9 games of the year, unless he’s better than the D we have and will help us win. Send him down on the second last pre season game and have your roster ready to go and WIN from game 1. The same goes for the 3rd pick.
    There needs to be less question marks at the start of next season and more certainty. That way MacT and Eakins will have no excuses at the 20 game mark if/when the team is in full downward spiral and the whole staff (klowe, Eakins ect…) can be thoroughly run out if town .

  32. Melman says:

    jayzz:
    I am completely against starting nurse for 9 games of the year, unless he’s better than the D we have and will help us win. Send him down on the second last pre season game and have your roster ready to go and WIN from game 1. The same goes for the 3rd pick.There needs to be less question marks at the start of next season and more certainty. That way MacT and Eakins will have no excuses at the 20 game mark if/when the team is in full downward spiral and the whole staff (klowe, Eakins ect…) can be thoroughly run out if town .

    This. He should only be on the opening night roster if he is one of the team’s 6 best defencemen and if he is then another lottery season awaits. If they want him to hang around for a while fine, but risking losses so you can take a shiny new toy out for a test drive is asinine. The brass actually has the advantage now of the fans NOT wanting to see him in the lineup!

  33. dawgtoy says:

    fifthcartel: http://cekujto.com/VIDEO_SK/GIF/75.gif
    Did anyone see this Marincin OT winner at the WC? Please let him survive the summer, MacT.

    Thanks. That’s a brilliant goal. Hope we see much more of this for years to come.

  34. OilClog says:

    The Edmonton Oilers trade the #3 overall pick, Gagner, Gernat, Bunz.. For Jason Spezza.

  35. hoser313 says:

    Melman: This.He should only be on the opening night roster if he is one of the team’s 6 best defencemen and if he is then another lottery season awaits.If they want him to hang around for a while fine, but risking losses so you can take a shiny new toy out for a test drive is asinine. The brass actually has the advantage now of the fans NOT wanting to see him in the lineup!

    You’ve hit right on the problem. He likely WILL be one of the 6 best defensemen. Look at the way Marincin just ‘rolled’ right onto the Oilers’ top pair with Petry. Klef was also able to hold his own. It’s a testament to these kids but it really emphasizes the existing lack of D depth. What if Nurse is clearly better at an overall game than everyone except Petry, Marincin and Ference? It will be very difficult to send the kid down. The Oilers better sign one or two FA defencemen so it keeps at least one of Klef or Nurse off of the opening night roster.

  36. hoser313 says:

    Woodguy:
    All,

    Let’s not denigrate Draisaitl due to his size.

    He did score 105pts in 64gms (1.64pts/gm) on a meh PA team.

    The nearest forward to his point production on the team was .92pts/gm by undrafted ’94 Conroy.

    He wasn’t working alone, but the help was limited outside of Morrisey.

    To get all upset about the Oilers interest in him or calling him a coke machine is a disservice to the player.

    This is basically the Sean Monahan argument from last year (good player without much help from his team). Interesting that more people haven’t picked up on this.

  37. DeadmanWaking says:

    leadfarmer: If the NHL cares anything about developing these young players

    Number one impediment to career development is a broken jaw, major concussion, or a broken leg pursuing an iced puck in an exhibition game.

    Distant second is methodical seasoning.

    Place your tray tables in the upright position. We are now about to descend through the NHL’s give-a-shitometer.

    I do agree that select prospects would benefit from an early jump to the AHL. But once you open this loophole, there will be more player agents pleading for special treatment than actually warrant receiving it. So it needs to be earned with skin on the table.

    For each team, their first pick taken could be eligible for demotion to the AHL if several other conditions are met: the player was taken in the first round, the player dressed for at least six NHL games, the player received at least an hour of regular season ice time, the assignment is made not later than December 1st.

    The criteria could be met with ten minutes a game for six games, or seven minutes a game for nine games. Very few teams would be willing to devote this much (early) regular season ice time to any prospect below the top five picks who wasn’t clearly a man among boys.

    P.S. Never forget, the larger context includes Eric Lindros’s opinionated second cousin, who takes a key turn as the lead soloist in the Lindros family echo-chamber gospel choir.

  38. LMHF#1 says:

    fifthcartel:

    http://cekujto.com/VIDEO_SK/GIF/75.gif

    Did anyone see this Marincin OT winner at the WC? Please let him survive the summer, MacT.

    That’s a hockey player right there. Beauty.

  39. vinotintazo says:

    fifthcartel:

    http://cekujto.com/VIDEO_SK/GIF/75.gif

    Did anyone see this Marincin OT winner at the WC? Please let him survive the summer, MacT.

    When was this?

  40. fifthcartel says:

    vinotintazo,

    It was a Slovakia vs Norway pre-lim game at the WC a couple days ago I think.

  41. Woodguy says:

    hoser313: This is basically the Sean Monahan argument from last year (good player without much help from his team).Interesting that more people haven’t picked up on this.

    I think a lot of people around here are allergic to that argument because it was used to pick Pouliot over Parise.

    Pouliot was the only good player on an awful Rimouski team that tanked to get Crosby in th Q draft.

    Lowe had mentioned that even though his team was not competitive and out of the playoff race early, that Pou brought it every night.

    Trying even though the team sucks and is out of the playoffs by December?

    No wonder LT has an undying love for Pou, that’s describes playing for the Oilers.

  42. JonyPro says:

    I’m relatively new to this blog but have been reading for two years now and have enjoyed the banter and observations.
    I am also a gamer and frequently play GM Mode in all the NHL games by EA. I of course choose the Oilers as my team to lead to success. And every time I do the game automatically sends Nurse to juniors for two years and after that I have him in the AHL for at least two years and he still isn’t a top 2 defender, regardless of his potential. If the people of EA Sports understands that players take time and patience to have a highly skilled teenager reach his potential surely MacT does also. With the bumbling of Yak, Gagner, Cogliano, Lander and even Nuge and Hall is annoying. Even elite players need to learn some basics before hitting the big league. That’s my two cents anyway. Whomever MacT picks this summer, that player needs to be sent down and cultivated into a corner stone piece along with Hall and Nuge.

    P.S.
    For the love of Gord, please let the Flames lose as much as possible to the Oilers from now on :)

  43. Marcus Oilerius says:

    BTW guys, looking at the numbers, Draisaitl should blow the doors off Monahan. 1.6ppg vs 1.3ppg, 20lbs heavier, and he’s 15 days younger!

  44. G Money says:

    Marcus Oilerius:
    BTW guys, looking at the numbers, Draisaitl should blow the doors off Monahan.1.6ppg vs 1.3ppg, 20lbs heavier, and he’s 15 days younger!

    He should, a #3 pick should blow the doors off a #6 pick in general.

    That said, Bennett, Draisaitl, and Reinhart should all blow the doors off Monahan, and its virtually certain the Flambes are going to get at least one of those guys.

  45. Andy P says:

    Why are we looking at Ekblad when we have so many good ‘uns lining up for D spots, such as Klefbom, Marincin, Nurse, and SImpson, when we are so appalling in need of a big, strong 2C?

    We’ve moaned for so long about having too many small, skilled forwards, why would we ever want more of the same from the draft? Why not just draft the best, big bodied center available? I don’t know enough to care whether that is Draisatl who is big, or Bennett, who plays big.

  46. Andy P says:

    Oilers sign Arco to 1 way contract.
    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=718010&navid=DL|EDM|home

    Edit: Sorry everyone the system wouldn’t accept the entire URL.

  47. RexLibris says:

    On Monahan v. Draisaitl – Different leagues and draft years.

    Rather than expect Draisaitl to be better than Monahan based on ppg and birthdate, I’d suggest that fans hope that he is at least as good as Monahan. Better then becomes a pleasant bonus.

    If the Oilers can get out of their own way and send whichever C they select this June back to junior (assuming it is a C) then it only further uncouples the comparison of these two players.

  48. RexLibris says:

    Andy P:
    Oilers sign Arco to 1 way contract.
    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=718010&navid=DL|EDM|home

    Edit: Sorry everyone the system wouldn’t accept the entire URL.

    I suspect Scott was a vocal supporter of his.

    This raises an interesting idea.

    It seems to me that many fans here are caught in a sense of despair over signs of hope (MacTavish and Eakins verbal, mention of adv. stats, the odd flirtation with analytics from the Oilogosphere) and evidence to the contrary (Fraser, Gazdic, MacIntyre, Hendricks, etc).

    MacTavish has hired Bill Scott and it appears like a move to surround himself with smart hockey people.

    There may yet be “dumb” moves on the horizon, but if this organization gradually hires intelligent people for more and more positions (Carriere, Moores, Scott) then eventually we, the fan base, may see more “smart” moves than “dumb” ones.

    Of course, maybe if I plant a nickel in my back yard it’ll grow a money tree.

  49. Rondo says:

    German sources at WC says Leon D is 6’2 and 198 lbs. Sounds big and strong according to the article.

  50. Racki says:

    Andy P:
    Oilers sign Arco to 1 way contract.
    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=718010&navid=DL|EDM|home

    Edit: Sorry everyone the system wouldn’t accept the entire URL.

    Didn’t they already re sign him like a month ago? Pretty sure this was announced a while back.

  51. Andy P says:

    Edit:
    You are correct, turns out it was on March 31st.
    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=712157

    One would think that when something is presented as news that one could take it at face value. I thought I had remembered something like that but assumed that my memory was playing tricks and that it had perhaps been about a different player.

    Next we’ll hear they’ve signed Eakins………

  52. RexLibris says:

    Rondo:
    German sources at WC says LeonD is 6’2and 198 lbs. Sounds big and strong according to the article.

    It must suck having “sources” leak your height and weight to the international media, even if it is only sports media.

    I understand that it is all part of a strategy aimed at securing a professional contract and a big payday, but man, what a way to have to build your career.

    Reading this I pictured a very stealthy little German man subtly holding a tailor’s tape to Draisaitl when his back was turned, or computing his height by triangulating his shadow on the floor, or examining the indents on the carpet from his footprints to determine weight.

    Am I putting too much thought into this?

  53. Racki says:

    Andy P:
    Edit:
    You are correct, turns out it was on March 31st.
    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=712157

    One would think that when something is presented as news that one could take it at face value. I thought I had remembered something like that but assumed that my memory was playing tricks and that it had perhaps been about a different player.

    Next we’ll hear they’ve signed Eakins………

    I took their post the same way too. But while I didn’t read it, maybe they just meant that meant it like.. He has a new deal now, and he’s ready to kick some ass! I. E. The new deal isn’t the news, per se. Then again, this is the organization that tells us the rebuild started in 2010, so, this could just be repeat info to fuel fan excitement Lol

  54. Hammers says:

    OilClog: The Edmonton Oilers trade the #3 overall pick, Gagner, Gernat, Bunz.. For Jason Spezza.

    For 1 year of Spetza ????? Gags & Bunz

  55. One-Timer says:

    http://cekujto.com/VIDEO_SK/GIF/75.gif

    Did anyone see this Marincin goal at the WC? Please let him survive the summer, MacT.

    Hilarious. Beauty of a goal, but there’s a reason we haven’t seen him do that in the NHL. I’ve never even played beer league, but I think I could snag that Norwegian defender’s roster spot.

  56. Rondo says:

    RexLibris,

    Ha Ha I think you are right.

  57. One-Timer says:

    RexLibris,

    Yes, that is an enticing opener. In paragraph 2, I assume they’re calling him the “German Gretzky” in jest, and not actually using The Great One as a comparable?

    Regardless of Jones last year, I can’t see Ekblad sitting there at #3. But Draisatl will be, and the Oilers should take him. Is Spezza a bit of a stretch as a comparable, since we keep mentioning trading for that guy and his one year of contract? Draisatl has similar size, although Spezza scored 116 pts in 56 games in his draft year (OHL).

  58. Marcus Oilerius says:

    One-Timer,

    He was called Germany Gretzky here for a while now.

    if you look at his highlight reel, some of his passes… well, you can understand why.

  59. blankie says:

    With Kirk Muller being relieved of his duties, would he not look great behind the bench for us at least as an associate coach. We’ve got to think that MacT comes out of free agency with at least two Dmen and three forwards, right? right? A great off-season for me has us picking up Nikitin and Niskanen on D, Winnik, Grabovski, Kulemin and let’s say Goc. As for the draft, I assume Ekblad is off the board and I am more than happy to claim one of the centres…as long as it’s the RIGHT one.

  60. Rondo says:

    Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer
    Assuming Aaron Ekblad is gone, and based on feedback from NON-Oilers sources, to me Leon Draisaitl makes the most sense as Oilers pick

  61. G Money says:

    blankie: A great off-season for me has us picking up Nikitin and Niskanen on D, Winnik, Grabovski, Kulemin and let’s say Goc.

    A “great” off-season? If MacT could achieve that, it would probably rank among the greatest, if not the single greatest off-season of all time.

    He will have achieved lots if he comes away with a good draft at #3, one of the UFA D and one of the needed UFA forwards. Anything beyond that is already into the realm of the great.

  62. Lowetide says:

    Rondo:
    Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer
    Assuming Aaron Ekblad is gone, and based on feedback from NON-Oilers sources, to me Leon Draisaitl makes the most sense as Oilers pick

    Jim Matheson said the same thing without the NON-Oilers reference two months ago. Draisaitl is the one, unless they change their minds.

  63. Rondo says:

    Lowetide,

    We wait

  64. Marcus Oilerius says:

    Lowetide: Jim Matheson said the same thing without the NON-Oilers reference two months ago. Draisaitl is the one, unless they change their minds.

    Pretty excited about that.

    48 points in 22 games is a damn fine way to finish a season, especially on a pretty average WHL squad.

  65. OilLeak says:

    LMHF#1: That’s a hockey player right there. Beauty.

    It will be forgotten soon enough and fans will turn on Marincin once Petry is shipped out for nothing.

    It is known.

    Petry also pulled this beauty in OKC a few years ago.

    The defensive depth on the Oilers is so weak due to mismanagement of resources. It will take years to acquire the players that are required to make this team competitive again.

  66. tworl says:

    I am more of a flyers fan than an oilers fan, but I always regard the oilers as my second team…

    I read on the website a lot about trades involving both my teams, and I am wondering if the oilers could package something involving the third pick and others for Scott Laughton or Schenn the younger, plus others, the flyers have a lot of depth at C, instead of always trying to pry Couturier from us, go for something reasonable, someone who isn’t in the core. The flyers don’t have any D depth like the Oilers! So let’s work out a dealbfor what they have and the oilers don’t have, centres who are capable of having more than one dimension to their game

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