OILERS QUALIFY 9

Curtis Hamilton was qualified by the Edmonton Oilers today. In what can only be described as a surprise, the club must feel the injuries impacted performance to the point where another season is required to make a decision. I believe they did Taylor Fedun a solid by letting him go, he’ll have a chance to catch on with another team who perhaps see him as more of an NHL option.

YEA OR NAY

  • NHL RFA Luke Gazdic—Qualified
  • NHL RFA Justin Schultz—Qualified
  • NHL REA Jeff Petry—Qualified
  • NHL RFA Phil Larsen—Qualified
  • AHL RFA Andrew Miller—Qualified
  • AHL RFA Tyler Pitlick—Qualified
  • AHL RFA Curtis Hamilton—Qualified
  • AHL RFA Roman Horak—Qualified
  • AHL RFA Taylor Fedun—NOT Qualified
  • AHL RFA Richard Bachman—Qualified

Several of these fellows will be in Europe, and that includes Roman Horak and Phil Larsen. The two items that really stand out are Hamilton and Fedunt. I’d be interested in finding out what happened with Fedun, seems to me he would have been at the very least a call-up candidate again this season.

NHL UFA

  • NHL UFA Mark Fraser
  • NHL UFA Ryan Smyth
  • NHL UFA Ryan Jones
  • NHL UFA Anton Belov
  • NHL UFA Denis Grebeshkov
  • NHL UFA Ben Eager
  • NHL UFA Steve MacIntyre

These boys aren’t coming back.

50-MAN LIST (June 30)

  1. G Ben Scrivens
  2. G Viktor Fasth
  3. G Richard Bachman (qualified)
  4. G Tyler Bunz
  5. G Laurent Brossoit
  6. G Frans Tuohimaa
  7. D Jeff Petry (qualified)
  8. D Justin Schultz (qualified)
  9. D Nikita Nikitin
  10. D Martin Marincin
  11. D Andrew Ference
  12. D Oscar Klefbom
  13. D Brandon Davidson
  14. D Martin Gernat
  15. D David Musil
  16. D Brad Hunt
  17. D Jordan Oesterle
  18. D Dillon Simpson
  19. D Darnell Nurse (sliderule)
  20. C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
  21. C Boyd Gordon
  22. C Mark Arcobello
  23. C Anton Lander
  24. C Will Acton
  25. C Travis Ewanyk
  26. C Jujhar Khaira
  27. C Bogdan Yakimov
  28. L Taylor Hall
  29. L Nail Yakupov
  30. L Matt Hendricks
  31. L Luke Gazdic (qualified)
  32. L Jesse Joensuu
  33. L Ryan Hamilton
  34. L Curtis Hamilton (qualified)
  35. L Kale Kessy
  36. L Mitchell Moroz
  37. R Jordan Eberle
  38. R David Perron
  39. R Teddy Purcell
  40. R Steve Pinizzotto
  41. R Tyler Pitlick (qualified)
  42. R Andrew Miller (qualified)
  43. R Iiro Pakarinen

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  1. Marcus Oilerius says:

    Hamilton and Miller but not Fedun? Bizarre.

  2. fifthcartel says:

    Edmonton Oilers are seriously kicking tires on Olli Jokinen per Bob Mac on TSN just now..

  3. JamesL says:

    Marcus Oilerius,

    This move is part of the “if you love someone, set them free” tree of thought.

  4. Lucinius says:

    fifthcartel,

    What’s most horrifying about that is the idea that maybe they’ve been informed they have no shot at any other center.

    It slightly beats out actually bringing in Olli.

  5. Lucinius says:

    Also; Lindback not qualified by Tampa. Man; remember when it was Bernier and Lindback as the two most sought after young back-ups? Always interesting to see who pans out and who doesn’t. Of course, being a goalie.. there’s more voodoo than science involved.

  6. Yak2 says:

    The Sabres didn’t qualify Jamie McBain and the Preds didn’t qualify Del Zotto and now both are UFA’s. Interested? I’d be

  7. Henry says:

    JamesL:
    Marcus Oilerius,

    This move is part of the “if you love someone, set them free” tree of thought.

    JamesL,

    Maybe they are giving him a shot at a one way contract elsewhere then resigning him if he doesn’t get one?

  8. Frank the dog says:

    fifthcartel:
    Edmonton Oilers are seriously kicking tires on Olli Jokinen per Bob Mac on TSN just now..

    Olli
    http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/j/jokinol01.html

    Sam
    http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gagnesa01.html

    Malkin

    http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/m/malkiev01.html

    Public Service, just to help keep the “seen him good” debates factual, and a comparison against a benchmark for 2nd Centers. :)

  9. Ducey says:

    Fedun is likely to settle in around 8th on the depth chart once the dust settles on the offseason.

    In the AHL they will have Musil, Klefbom (hopefully), Osterle, Davidson, Gernat, Hunt, and Simpson. At least 3 of these guys is likely to move past Fedun in the next year or two, along with Nurse and maybe one or two others.

    If he isn’t a fit in the short term and will take ice from the guys you want to develop long term, you might as well let him go.

    It appears all the gnashing of teeth over Fraser was for naught.

  10. slopitch says:

    NHL UFA Mark Fraser
    NHL UFA Ryan Jones
    NHL UFA Anton Belov
    NHL UFA Denis Grebeshkov
    NHL UFA Ben Eager
    NHL UFA Steve MacIntyre

    Should be some form of improvement through this alone.

  11. Hammers says:

    Ducey: Fedun is likely to settle in around 8th on the depth chart once the dust settles on the offseason.In the AHL they will have Musil, Klefbom (hopefully), Osterle, Davidson, Gernat, Hunt, and Simpson. At least 3 of these guys is likely to move past Fedun in the next year or two, along with Nurse and maybe one or two others.If he isn’t a fit in the short term and will take ice from the guys you want to develop long term, you might as well let him go.It appears all the gnashing of teeth over Fraser was for naught.

    Makes sense and McT seems to be more about developing players in Okl than winning although I’m sure he wants both . Good Luck to Fedun but my guess is he ends up in Europe and he would be well suited for that gig .

  12. cdean says:

    Missing nikitin

  13. Woodguy says:

    fifthcartel:
    Edmonton Oilers are seriously kicking tires on Olli Jokinen per Bob Mac on TSN just now..

    I haven’t checked his numbers, but I think he had a good year in WIN.

    I think MacT is trying to sign the best FA’s possible who will only take two years.

    In two years (if he gets the right FA’s now) a better class of FA will be willing to sign here.

    He might go longer on the right guy.

    With all the verbal around Fayne I think they went at least 4 years.

    If they are talking to Ollie then they are out of the Statsny and Grabbo game.

  14. godot10 says:

    Jokinen is 35. If they sign him, it better just be for one year at a time.

  15. Woodguy says:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/how-the-nhl-salary-cap-got-set-at-69-million/article19387905/#dashboard/follows/

    Good piece by Mirtle on why the cap is at 69MM.

    As predicted Jacobs, Snider et al wanted a higher cap, FLA etc wanted a lower cap, but the PA held off to minimize escrow.

  16. Woodguy says:

    godot10:
    Jokinen is 35.If they sign him, it better just be for one year at a time.

    Good point.

  17. Hammers says:

    Looks like we need a minimum of 2 players added 1 “D” & 1 “C” but most of us fans would like 4 . 2 “D” 1 “C” and 1 winger . If Petry goes as has been mentioned here many times over the last few weeks he must be upgraded at that position plus add 2 “D” so that becomes 3 “D” . Just my opinion but somehow I don’t see it happening . Maybe Coburn for Petry + an add of a Fayne ( if lucky ) & or Boychuck .

  18. Ducey says:

    I could live with Ollie. He had about the same points as Sam (43 points in 82 games). CF% 49.2 Rel Corsi -1.1% Only 29.9 % Offensive Zone starts. Most of the time (54 %) with Setoguchi. Played all situations including PK.

    Sign him for a year and flip him at the deadline.

    Maybe they will sign 2 centers, keep Arco and Draisaitl to play wing and the Oilers will have too many C’s!

  19. icecastles says:

    NHL UFA Steve MacIntyre…
    …These boys aren’t coming back.

    Where’s that clip from Groundhog Day?

  20. spoiler says:

    Woodguy: If they are talking to Ollie then they are out of the Statsny and Grabbo game.

    Agreed. They can probably give him a fairly nice one year deal. I did raise the point back in May that this was likely to be our 2C consolation prize, especially if the player is just intended to be a bridge to Freon Leon the Human Fridge.

  21. Gerta Rauss says:

    Woodguy:
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/how-the-nhl-salary-cap-got-set-at-69-million/article19387905/#dashboard/follows/

    Good piece by Mirtle on why the cap is at 69MM.

    As predicted Jacobs, Snider et al wanted a higher cap, FLA etc wanted a lower cap, but the PA held off to minimize escrow.

    As it currently stands, the 2015-16 salary cap should now easily exceed $74-million

    Spend like drunken sailors, I tell ya!!!

  22. Frank the dog says:

    Ducey:
    I could live with Ollie.He had about the same points as Sam (43 points in 82 games).CF% 49.2 Rel Corsi -1.1% Only 29.9 % Offensive Zone starts.Most of the time (54 %) with Setoguchi.Played all situations including PK.

    Sign him for a year and flip him at the deadline.

    Maybe they will sign 2 centers, keep Arco and Draisaitl to play wing and the Oilers will have too many C’s!

    MacT has always liked wingers who can also play C.

  23. G Money says:

    Ducey,

    I’d be quite fine with OJok for 1 year. I’d be happier with JJok! Best value: keeping Dr. Drai in PA.

    Sign Setoguchi for the Gordon/Hendricks line while you’re at it.

  24. G Money says:

    Dammit, that snuck up fast. I better finish my “What’s a UFA D worth?” article tonight.

  25. striatic says:

    Ollie the Oiler. had to happen eventually.

    defines “stopgap” but somebody needs to keep Leon off the second line.

  26. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy: I haven’t checked his numbers, but I think he had a good year in WIN.

    I think MacT is trying to sign the best FA’s possible who will only take two years.

    In two years (if he gets the right FA’s now) a better class of FA will be willing to sign here.

    He might go longer on the right guy.

    With all the verbal around Fayne I think they went at least 4 years.

    If they are talking to Ollie then they are out of the Statsny and Grabbo game.

    No to Jokinen.

    He was happily sent packing from Calgary and that was a few seasons ago. During his time with the Flames Sutter had very little success playing him against the tough competition and he was mediocre against the average competition.

    The Oilers aren’t deep enough down the middle to have Jokinen play soft minutes and easy zone starts.

    No to Olli Jokinen. If only because Flames fans would laugh themselves sick if the Oilers actually signed him.

    There have got to be better options out there.

  27. striatic says:

    RexLibris:

    There have got to be better options out there.

    Connor McDavid?

  28. RexLibris says:

    Gerta Rauss: As it currently stands, the 2015-16 salary cap should now easily exceed $74-million

    Spend like drunken sailors, I tell ya!!!

    Watch the NHL invoke the renegotiation clause of the CBA early just so that Snider and company can get another round of compliance buyouts.

    Kind of reminds me of the old bumper stickers – “Lord, give me another Oil Boom and I swear I won’t piss it away”. Human nature.

  29. RexLibris says:

    striatic: Connor McDavid?

    A cardboard standie of McDavid over Jokinen? Sure, sounds good to me.

    I may be misremembering things with regards to Jokinen, but his last season in Calgary I spent a fair bit of time on the game day chats with Flames fans and from what I recall his play could best be summarized as a hybrid of Dustin Penner’s hustle and Sam Gagner’s defensive acumen.

    So, again, no to Jokinen.

  30. RexLibris says:

    Paul Byron a UFA now, not qualified by the Flames.

    Little bundle of energy, skates miles and hits a lot of things wearing opposing jerseys.

    Not right for the Oilers, but another team will get a decent 4th liner there if they can put him in the right mix.

    Also, remember Olivier Roy? Helped the Alaska Aces win the ECHL championship.

    Not qualified by the Flames and now a UFA.

    Still think Brossoit likely was and is the better goalie of the two.

  31. misfit says:

    Fedun needs to shave those sideburns already.

    I don’t expect him to sign on to another NHL team and have a 10 year career or anything, but he’s a good callup option and has been great in OKC. Unless they’re trying to get him on an AHL deal, it makes no sense to me not to qualify him. He’s good depth.

    Jokinen would be OK as the forward equivalent of Nikita Nikitin. A short term (like one year) filler up front until Draisaitl is ready to take his place as the #2C. He’s could be better than Olli right now, but another year in junior or one season in a sheltered role in the NHL can only help him.

  32. G Money says:

    RexLibris: No to Olli Jokinen. If only because Flames fans would laugh themselves sick if the Oilers actually signed him.
    There have got to be better options out there.

    If the Oilers are talking to Ollie, it’s because those better options have turned them down. (No surprise)

    If the options are Leon or Ollie (for a year), I’ll pick Ollie.

    As for Flames fans laughing … my memory of Ollie here is that they ran him out of town for not being good enough to play first line – and yet they’ve never had as high scoring a center since. (Though Camo’s 0.67 ppg pace last year was at least somewhat close to Jokinen’s 0.76 ppg in his last year. But that’s as close as it gets).

    So I’d take that laughter with a grain of salt …

  33. John Chambers says:

    If Hendricks was still with NSH my guess is that he would’ve been bought out .

    Fourth liners and third pairing defensemen are being had for nickels, or. $9.0M over 2.

  34. kooler says:

    So once a player gets a qualifying offer are they off limits or can another team match…sorry, i don’t know the in and the outs of the NHL contract. Thanks

  35. Woodguy says:

    RexLibris: No to Jokinen.

    He was happily sent packing from Calgary and that was a few seasons ago. During his time with the Flames Sutter had very little success playing him against the tough competition and he was mediocre against the average competition.

    The Oilers aren’t deep enough down the middle to have Jokinen play soft minutes and easy zone starts.

    No to Olli Jokinen. If only because Flames fans would laugh themselves sick if the Oilers actually signed him.

    There have got to be better options out there.

    You said:

    The Oilers aren’t deep enough down the middle to have Jokinen play soft minutes and easy zone starts.

    Ollie had the toughest ZS among WIN C last year, so I have no idea where you are getting easy zone starts from.

    By the measures of QT at BTN, and Extraskater and by measuring # of faceoffs taken Ollie played 2nd toughest C minutes on WIN (behind Little, ahead of Scheifle and Slater/Wright)9

    Makes sense that Scheifle would play the soft comp and easier ZS, much like the Oilers will do with Soap next year.

    So he got the toughest ZS and played 2nd toughest C minutes.

    You are therefore incorrect.

    His numbers are not great, a slight negative CorRel (-2.2 last year, -2.9 the year before) and his pts/60 were “ok” at 1.76.

    Not my first choice, but not awful.

    Bryan Little is pretty freaking good btw.

    Comes through as a tough minutes killer.

    I saw WPG play PHX once last year and the only player who looked good (awful game) was Little.

    Also,

    There have got to be better options out there.

    I agree with that 100%.

  36. rickithebear says:

    RexLibris: A cardboard standie of McDavid over Jokinen? Sure, sounds good to me.

    I may be misremembering things with regards to Jokinen, but his last season in Calgary I spent a fair bit of time on the game day chats with Flames fans and from what I recall his play could best be summarized as a hybrid of Dustin Penner’s hustle and Sam Gagner’s defensive acumen.

    So, again, no to Jokinen.

    Jokinen 1st Comp 4th teamates.

    Did you forget to mention flames fans are moron’s.
    Yeah i know all are best scorer but one are 2nd phase or older.
    No.
    No.
    We are not a veteran team.
    We are bad cause we are rebuilding.
    Yeah tarts it!
    We are rebuilding!

  37. PunjabiOil says:

    Stauffer mentioned last week the Oilers had Jokinen 4th or so in their preferences for centers.

    Suspect Grabovski/Stastny said no. Or either wanted too much term for the Oilers liking.

    Better to have a fall back option.

    Jokinen is acceptable, but would prefer they do no more than 1 year at say $5M. Or no more than 2 years at $7M if they have to give him a 2 year deal to attract him.

    They should still add Goc even if they sign Jokinen.

  38. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy,

    I stand corrected. His time in Calgary and how he performed in Winnipeg must therefore have been different in terms of deployment.

    My take on him is, admittedly, outdated and seen through the lens of a different roster and coach, so if the numbers suggest he could play 2nd line C for the Oilers and not be a disaster then I’ll give the team the benefit of the doubt.

    However, I remain skeptical.

  39. RexLibris says:

    rickithebear: Jokinen 1st Comp 4th teamates.

    Did you forget to mention flames fans are moron’s.
    Yeah i know all are best scorer but one are 2nd phase or older.
    No.
    No.
    We are not a veteran team.
    We are bad cause we are rebuilding.
    Yeah tarts it!
    We are rebuilding!

    I prefer not to group an entire fan base together.

    I respect Kent Wilson’s opinion on player strengths when they aren’t coloured by an anti-Oilers bias and he was not a strong proponent of Jokinen at the time.

    As I mentioned to WG, if the numbers back up Jokinen as a realistic option for the 2C position, then I’ll defer. But I remain skeptical.

  40. godot10 says:

    kooler:
    So once a player gets a qualifying offer are they off limits or can another team match…sorry, i don’t know the in and the outs of the NHL contract. Thanks

    A player is only off limits once the the player has opted for arbitration. I think.

  41. striatic says:

    Signing Jokinen means the oilers aren’t going anywhere this season, which is sad, but it is less sad than throwing Leon to the wolves next year.

    You can’t sign the unwilling, so next year will be yet another year of treading water and waiting for rescue instead of madly thrashing on a random heading toward the horizon with no land in sight.

  42. kooler says:

    godot10,

    Thanks..found this. If a player declines the qualifying offer then another team can present an offer sheet. is this correct?

    http://proicehockey.about.com/od/nhlfreeagents/a/nhl_free_agents_2.htm

  43. matt says:

    PunjabiOil: Stauffer mentioned last week the Oilers had Jokinen 4th or so in their preferences for centers.

    This sounds about right. Stastny, Grabo, Bolland, Olli?

    PunjabiOil:
    Suspect Grabovski/Stastny said no. Or either wanted too much term for the Oilers liking.

    PAY THEM. But, technically, dollars and terms can’t be discussed. Also, both guys should want the Oilers’ interest to be visible to drive up their price. Too much interest isn’t going to result in too few offers for centres in this year’s market.

    PunjabiOil:
    Better to have a fall back option.
    Jokinen is acceptable, but would prefer they do no more than 1 year at say $5M. Or no more than 2 years at $7M if they have to give him a 2 year deal to attract him.
    They should still add Goc even if they sign Jokinen.

    Amen to all of these last sentences.

  44. G Money says:

    It’s been said a few times now but it bears repeating.

    No point in fretting about cap dollars at this point.

    Unless the contracts offered are long term big dollar deals, cap space is not a concern for this team.

    The real concern is being left with glaring roster holes, available cap space, and no one to buy.

  45. RexLibris says:

    Adding Goc and Jokinen together would at least allow the Oilers to mix and match their 2nd and 3rd lines according to the circumstances.

    A country mile from ideal, but if that’s where they are…

  46. voxwah says:

    What time does the free agency period actually start?

  47. Lowetide says:

    voxwah:
    What time does the free agency period actually start?

    10am EDM time, unless they’ve changed it.

  48. G Money says:

    striatic: Signing Jokinen means the oilers aren’t going anywhere this season, which is sad, but it is less sad than throwing Leon to the wolves next year.

    The Oilers aren’t going to make the playoffs next year anyway.

    All you can ask for is progress.

    Progress in filling some roster gaps (e.g. MacT’s done a nice job on the goalie situation).

    Progress in player development (some of it is naturally time and man strength, like RNH, but with others, like Yak and Jultz, more is needed – and Ramsay is a nice addition).

    In the case at hand, progress at 2C started with drafting Draisaitl.

    Progress will continue by signing a veteran 2C and another veteran D and a couple of LT’s “Mentor” type bottom 6 wingers to make sure that the team keeps its head above water while Draisaitl, Nurse, and Klefbom can keep developing without being thrown to the wolves.

    If the Oilers have cap space left and haven’t filled those gaps even though anyone legitimate, anyone at all is still available for a year or two, then they will have failed.

    At this point, even Olli Jokinen is progress.

  49. voxwah says:

    Lowetide,

    Thanks LT. With this new courting period its all a big blur. Ive got a good feeling about this year and I haven’t had one of those in a very long time. I’m gonna drink a beer for MacT for good luck, and then I’ll have another.

    Cheers everyone. Have fun tomorrow :)

  50. John Chambers says:

    striatic,

    Y’know I disagree.

    Let’s at least admit that we’re strong on the wing. Moreover, we just decided against a defensive sinkhole at C (although we wish him well), and worst case probably has us running RNH-Jokinen-Arcobello-Gordon. Nobody is Anze Kopitar, but nobody will be sub 47% CF if given strong support on the wing.

    Now we can all agree Stastny would be a godsend, but would also eat up scarce cap bucks. My bet is that Jokinen costs under $3M on a 1-year term, providing is the bucks to get say Moss and Raymond, and also trading for a solid top-3 defender that another team is trying to divest of the cap hit.

    No rookies in the lineup. Lots of depth. Nobody being asked to do anything above their heads. Balance. Consistency. This is the kind of lineup the young stars need to mature and thrive.

  51. G Money says:

    On a completely unrelated note, I couldn’t fully take the day off today, but I took advantage of “workday lite” to post here and also try out a clay bar on my MDX.

    Holy crap, I would not have believed it if I hadn’t tried it. Unbelievably smooth paint surface. Always amazing when something works better than you expect.

  52. НИНТЕНДО⁶⁴ says:

    Lowetide: 10am EDM time, unless they’ve changed it.

    Agents can sign players up as of 10 am edmonton time. The re – signing period by wives starts at noon Edmonton time.

  53. Lois Lowe says:

    I’m okay with Jokinen as a short term option. He certainly would make Gordon’s job a lot easier and he’s Finnish.

    Also, Vancouver has the hottest women, anyone claiming Montreal is suffering from Eastern bias.

  54. FPB94 says:

    Gorges modifed his NTC for 2 canadian teams, interest?

  55. Lowetide says:

    FPB94:
    Gorges modifed his NTC for 2 canadian teams, interest?

    Of course, but he’s not coming here.

  56. Woodguy says:

    RexLibris:
    Woodguy,

    I stand corrected. His time in Calgary and how he performed in Winnipeg must therefore have been different in terms of deployment.

    My take on him is, admittedly, outdated and seen through the lens of a different roster and coach, so if the numbers suggest he could play 2nd line C for the Oilers and not be a disaster then I’ll give the team the benefit of the doubt.

    However, I remain skeptical.

    Scepticism in regards to Ollie is warranted.

  57. Woodguy says:

    RexLibris: I prefer not to group an entire fan base together.

    I respect Kent Wilson’s opinion on player strengths when they aren’t coloured by an anti-Oilers bias and he was not a strong proponent of Jokinen at the time.

    As I mentioned to WG, if the numbers back up Jokinen as a realistic option for the 2C position, then I’ll defer. But I remain skeptical.

    Ollie was a -6.9 or so RelCor in CAL.

    Wilson read him right.

    I haven’t dug into why or who he played against, but he’s been better in WIN, but still a negative RelCor, and really, no one wants to add that.

  58. Woodguy says:

    striatic:
    Signing Jokinen means the oilers aren’t going anywherethis season, which is sad, but it is less sad than throwing Leonto the wolves next year.

    You can’t sign the unwilling, so next year will be yet another year of treading water and waiting for rescue instead of madly thrashing on a random heading toward the horizon with no land in sight.

    Agreed.

    The only benefit of Ollie at 2C is that Soap isn’t playing 2C.

  59. Woodguy says:

    G Money,

    At this point, even Olli Jokinen is progress.

    There is no bar so low that Tambellini hasn’t set it lower.

  60. Woodguy says:

    For the record, I’d rather Legwand or Goc at 2C than Ollie.

    Preferably one year, maybe two if $ are cool.

  61. FPB94 says:

    Lowetide,

    Well it’s not the Canadiens/Maple Leafs, He’s from BC so it’s probably Vancouver + 1, I don’t think the Flames or Jets really have that big of an edge. All garbage, all cold.

  62. Woodguy says:

    G Money:
    It’s been said a few times now but it bears repeating.

    No point in fretting about cap dollars at this point.

    Unless the contracts offered are long term big dollar deals, cap space is not a concern for this team.

    The real concern is being left with glaring roster holes, available cap space, and no one to buy.

    Truth.

  63. Melman says:

    I hope the Del Zotto buyout gives MacT pause when negotiating Schultz’ contract. Del Zotto was seemingly on the Schultz path not so very long ago.

    Prefer a better solution than Ollie, but if Bogdan arrives we can have a “2 Yaks and a Jok” line

  64. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy:
    G Money,

    At this point, even Olli Jokinen is progress.

    There is no bar so low that Tambellini hasn’t set it lower.

    Thinking exactly the same thing.

    Ugh. His tenure during the “rebuild” was essentially just hitting the snooze button on any constructive moves.

  65. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy:
    For the record, I’d rather Legwand or Goc at 2C than Ollie.

    Preferably one year, maybe two if $ are cool.

    I’d prefer Goc if only because I think the odometer is just too high on Legwand now. That being said, I’d do one year of either if need be.

  66. Woodguy says:

    Tyler, LT, and others have argued that Draisaitl should go back to junior.

    They are probably right.

    A very selfish part of me wants him to stick next year (he probably will, Oilers).

    I’ve watched Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, Coffey, Fuhr, Smyth, Arnott, Gagner, Hall, RNH and Yak play their rookie years with the Oilers and none of them won the Calder.

    I think this next year is the best chance the Oilers have to have a player who wins the Calder in the next 10 years.

    I’d really like to see that.

  67. RexLibris says:

    J. Schultz signs for two years at $1.7 million.

    Wait, Jeff Schultz. Darn it.

  68. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy:
    Tyler, LT, and others have argued that Draisaitl should go back to junior.

    They are probably right.

    A very selfish part of me wants him to stick next year (he probably will, Oilers).

    I’ve watched Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, Coffey, Fuhr, Smyth, Arnott, Gagner, Hall, RNH and Yak play their rookie years with the Oilers and none of them won the Calder.

    I think this next year is the best chance the Oilers have to have a player who wins the Calder in the next 10 years.

    I’d really like to see that.

    I’m not convinced that he does necessarily stay.

    The Oilers were patient on Eberle, Pajaarvi, Klefbom, and Nurse.

    The only ones they rushed were the 1st overalls.

    Not saying he’ll go back to PA or stay, but I don’t think we can call it a fait accompli just because of specific examples in the team’s history.

  69. RexLibris says:

    @TSNBobMcKenzie: “@ExtraSkater: Advanced stats for UFAs. View by pos’n, old team, possession, toughest opponents, more: http://t.co/QAYwvbi4a6” Good follow.

  70. russ99 says:

    Did you guys see the blurb in the Journal that says Petry is being floated around?

    That would be a really bad move, unless we’re getting a real top paring D, like top pairing on every team, not just the Oilers.

  71. PunjabiOil says:

    I think the plan is to have Drasaitl up in the NHL unless he really struggles during the 9 game trial period. Like Colorado did with Mackinnon, they will probably slot him on the third line.

    re: Goc or Jokinen. Goc is more of what we have in Boyd Gordon. Limited offensively.

    Jokinen has the ability to play the soft minutes, and I suspect his numbers were better in Winnipeg.

    Hall RNH Eberle
    Perron Jokinen Purcell
    Kulemin Drasaitl Yakupov
    Hendricks Gordon Arcobella

    Ext: Joensuu, Pitlick, UFA signing/Gazdic,

    Seems like a very competence offensive group.

  72. Melman says:

    Rishaug tweeted Edm. not on Gorges list of 2 Cdn. teams = Van + Cal/Peg

  73. PunjabiOil says:

    Did you guys see the blurb in the Journal that says Petry is being floated around?

    That would be a really bad move, unless we’re getting a real top paring D, like top pairing on every team, not just the Oilers.
    _______________________________

    Dustin Nielson ‏@nielsonTSN1260

    Petry’s name may be out there but I’m told the Oilers aren’t aggressively trying to move him.

  74. VanOil says:

    Woodguy:
    Tyler, LT, and others have argued that Draisaitl should go back to junior.

    They are probably right.

    A very selfish part of me wants him to stick next year (he probably will, Oilers).

    I’ve watched Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, Coffey, Fuhr, Smyth, Arnott, Gagner, Hall, RNH and Yak play their rookie years with the Oilers and none of them won the Calder.

    I think this next year is the best chance the Oilers have to have a player who wins the Calder in the next 10 years.

    I’d really like to see that.

    If they keep Nurse in Jr for another year and the AHL for 1 year he could get the Calder. I can’t see the Oilers exercising that sort of self control though.

    Draisaitl-Yak and a Vet would make a tantalizing 3d line. I am not sure a Winnick type fits. The willy old Vet would have to think the game at the same level as these two prodigies and be able to handle 100mph passes.

    I hope they bring Yak to Jasper next week and just have him fire fast ball passes to the other kids. First one to figure out how to catch them wins a prize ~ a minimum 9 day stint in the show.

  75. Woodguy says:

    russ99:
    Did you guys see the blurb in the Journal that says Petry is being floated around?

    That would be a really bad move, unless we’re getting a real top paring D, like top pairing on every team, not just the Oilers.

    Either they are very far apart on contract $ and term, or they have a UFA RHD in the bag, or both.

    If its just the contract then I fear it.

  76. Woodguy says:

    VanOil,

    Pretty rare for a Dman to win the Calder.

    Voters like points.

    Tyler Myers and Barrett Jackman were the last two to do it.

    Before that it was Bryan Berard.

    Damn shame about his eye. He was the top drawer goods.

  77. G Money says:

    Woodguy:
    For the record, I’d rather Legwand or Goc at 2C than Ollie.

    Preferably one year, maybe two if $ are cool.

    It’s a matter of choosing where you want to stop along a spectrum of three flawed (but NHL quality) players.

    Goc is the most defensively reliable, but hasn’t got a speck of offense compared to the other two. Solid 3/4C pickup though.

    Legwand is good two-way but seems to have the most hard miles on him, so the floor could drop on him any day now, if it hasn’t already. As in: “Belanger”. “Legwando Triangle” has a nice ring to it though.

    Jokinen has the most long-term success scoring, but I’m leery of his defense and though he seems to have aged more gracefully than Legwand, that wine could go skunky anyday too.

    No matter what the route, and I’m OK with any of the three for a year (and Goc + one of L/J might make a nice combo) – the real value after all is in getting some support for the youngsters while keeping Dr. Drai in PA. (I’ve used that before but I like the rhythm).

  78. godot10 says:

    Woodguy:

    A very selfish part of me wants him to stick next year (he probably will, Oilers).

    I’ve watched Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, Coffey, Fuhr, Smyth, Arnott, Gagner, Hall, RNH and Yak play their rookie years with the Oilers and none of them won the Calder.

    I think this next year is the best chance the Oilers have to have a player who wins the Calder in the next 10 years.

    I’d really like to see that.

    Jonathon Drouin, Evgeny Kuznetzov, Teuvo Teravainen…I doubt it.

  79. bsmart says:

    Johansen for Schultz and done!

  80. VanOil says:

    Woodguy,

    I wonder who the Oilers see as the long term mentor/partner for Nurse. Kelfbom seems doomed to spend his career cleaning up after Schultz as soon as he is able. I don’t see Nitikin having high enough talent. Ferrence should be out of the NHL before Nurse enters it. Maybe Fayne if he flies to YEG tomorrow.

  81. Hammers says:

    Straight to comments . Would it pay to go after Garrison . In Florida good shot on PP . Not used same way in Vancouver . Might get him for $ 4 or 5 mill x2 . B.C. boy so may work . Just a thought .

  82. Woodguy says:

    godot10: Jonathon Drouin, Evgeny Kuznetzov, Teuvo Teravainen…I doubt it.

    Fuck those guys.

  83. Woodguy says:

    VanOil:
    Woodguy,

    I wonder who the Oilers see as the long term mentor/partner for Nurse. Kelfbom seems doomed to spend his career cleaning up after Schultz as soon as he is able. I don’t see Nitikin having high enough talent. Ferrence should be out of the NHL before Nurse enters it. Maybe Fayne if he flies to YEG tomorrow.

    The next 36 hours will set the course for the team for 5 years.

  84. godot10 says:

    Hammers:
    Straight to comments . Would it pay to go after Garrison . In Florida good shot on PP . Not used same way in Vancouver . Might get him for $ 4 or 5 mill x2. B.C. boy so may work . Just a thought .

    Tampa already got him from Vancouver.

  85. Hammers says:

    Woodguy: Tyler, LT, and others have argued that Draisaitl should go back to junior.They are probably right.A very selfish part of me wants him to stick next year (he probably will, Oilers).I’ve watched Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, Coffey, Fuhr, Smyth, Arnott, Gagner, Hall, RNH and Yak play their rookie years with the Oilers and none of them won the Calder.I think this next year is the best chance the Oilers have to have a player who wins the Calder in the next 10 years.I’d really like to see that.

    Yea but they where all great players . I don’t care about individual trophies only that the best man plays .

  86. VanOil says:

    Woodguy: The next 36 hours will set the course for the team for 5 years.

    I am glad I stocked up on beer today then!

  87. Rondo says:

    Garrison is a slow skater with a hard shot. Vancouver took him off the pp.

  88. Gret99zky says:

    Haven’t seen any yet, and so, thoughts on Derek Roy?

    Too small probably.

  89. Woodguy says:

    VanOil: I am glad I stocked up on beer today then!

    Me too!

  90. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy: Fuck those guys.

    …and the horse they rode in on.

    Still get a good laugh at Feaster passing on Maatta and Teravainen in favour of Jankowski. Not to mention that whole “best player in the draft ten years from now”.

    The winters have been long, and the losses hard, but those thoughts keep my soul from freezing over entirely.

  91. RexLibris says:

    Thorburn sticking around Winnipeg for three years at 1.2 million a year.

  92. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    I wrote this about the weird draft strategy… I’ve been yakking about it here for the past couple of days

    http://www.theoilersrig.com/2014/06/betwixt-success-avoidance-strategy/

  93. Numenius says:

    PunjabiOil: re: Goc or Jokinen. Goc is more of what we have in Boyd Gordon. Limited offensively.

    I don’t mind “limited offensively” if he has good possession ability and can get the puck to the skill.

    When Horcoff played with Yak, they lit it up.

    I bet things would have gone a lot better last year had they kept Horcoff and dealt Gagner instead.

  94. Pouzar says:

    Gret99zky,

    Very Sheltered minutes in St Louis and drowning in them.

  95. Pouzar says:

    Numenius: I don’t mind “limited offensively” if he has good possession ability and can get the puck to the skill.

    When Horcoff played with Yak, they lit it up.

    I bet things would have gone a lot better last year had they kept Horcoff and dealt Gagner instead.

    I agree with with your premise but Horcoff is Gretzky offensively next to Goc.

  96. rickithebear says:

    RexLibris: I prefer not to group an entire fan base together.

    Your are correct!
    It was wrong!

  97. justDOit says:

    Woodguy:
    For the record, I’d rather Legwand or Goc at 2C than Ollie.

    I’m pullin for Goc! Goc-pull!

  98. Pouzar says:

    I’d take my chances on Mike Santorelli over Olli.

    Young. Decent size. Played the toughs in VAN and did the job. Nice AHL record of offensive chops and had 1 season with FLA with 41 pts. Only issue is staying healthy thus far. Thoughts?

  99. Lowetide says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    I wrote this about the weird draft strategy… I’ve been yakking about it here for the past couple of days

    http://www.theoilersrig.com/2014/06/betwixt-success-avoidance-strategy/

    I think the Oilers are ordinarily predictable in many ways since 2010:

    1. Risk averse in the first three rounds.
    2. Walkabout after pick no 100
    3. often swing back to ranked picks late.

    There were two problems this year:

    1. They didn’t have any picks 4-90.
    2. They drafted two goalies
    3. Meaning we’re talking about 3 picks after Draisaitl.

    I like the Swede and the USHL kid is a decent to good late round bet. The BCJHL kid is no worse (not really) than Evan Campbell, but we were busy staring at all the good picks a year ago.

    Edmonton didn’t have a 2nd or a 3rd, took two goalies in six picks and then didn’t force themselves to be risk averse.

    I like the idea of shooting for the stars. In this case, it doesn’t look so good. I hope they do it again, but make risk averse picks in the top 90 as a hedge.

  100. Gerta Rauss says:

    Pouzar:
    I’d take my chances on Mike Santorelli over Olli.

    Young. Decent size. Played the toughs in VAN and did the job. Nice AHL record of offensive chops and had 1 season with FLA with 41 pts. Only issue is staying healthy thus far. Thoughts?

    I’m holding out for Chris Kelly

    I think there is a Boychuk/Kelly/capspace deal there for Chiarelli if MacT can’t land a RH D(Fayne etc) via UFA

  101. RexLibris says:

    @jonasTSN1050: History says the Leafs should tread lightly on July 1st (ICYMI): http://t.co/QS5vid4URf

    Do you think Nonis follows TSN on twitter?

  102. Pouzar says:

    Gerta Rauss: I’m holding out for Chris Kelly

    I think there is a Boychuk/Kelly/capspace deal there for Chiarelli if MacT can’t land a RH D(Fayne etc) via UFA

    Yeah I like it. Gonna be an interesting day tomorrow.

  103. Numenius says:

    Pouzar: I agree with with your premise but Horcoff is Gretzky offensively next to Goc.

    Haha. He was, at least. Now they’re not so far apart.

  104. Evilas says:

    Pouzar: Yeah I like it. Gonna be an interesting day tomorrow.

    I am hoping for one of these deals as well, either with Boston or Philly. I think this is where the Oil make the biggest splash this summer.

    Do you think Lacavalier would be a good fit as a 2 C with Purcell and Perron? Is he strong enough defensively? I know his contract goes on for a few more years, but would he waive his NTC to Center a former winger and to play with Perron?

    I know all the possession numbers point in Boston’s favour, so Flyers don’t look as good as Bruins to add to this roster, but however it might play out I hope we get some C and D reinforcements that provide good leadership/role models, secondary/tertiary scoring and solid puck support.

  105. Evilas says:

    I am also thinking that the best UFA bet to land here will be Fayne, as he is one of the least “shiny” objects available for other teams.

  106. Evilas says:

    Also, would Bellemore be a better add than Engelland? I honestly am not familiar with either players, so I can’t comment. one way or the other

  107. Pouzar says:

    Evilas,

    Lecavlier’s Corgis/pts have been in steady decline. He played sheltered mins in PHI this year and didn’t do well. He is not the answer imo.

  108. HallDown says:

    Olli is not my first pick, but when the FA’s know you only want them for 1-2yrs you’re not going to get the pick of the litter, especially when you consider the team. Olli would be a definite upgrade from last guy overall, and he has a reputation for making the guys he plays with better. His faceoff ability alone makes him an upgrade.

    Signing Stastny is a bad move. $7MM for a 2C? Yikes! That’s Fayne and Kulemin. For a little more you get Grabovski and Kulemin. When you have holes all over the ship, you don’t use all your plugs on one big one. If MacT offered him the $49MM as rumored, let’s all hope it goes down the Clarkson river.

  109. Hammers says:

    Pouzar: I’d take my chances on Mike Santorelli over Olli.Young. Decent size. Played the toughs in VAN and did the job. Nice AHL record of offensive chops and had 1 season with FLA with 41 pts. Only issue is staying healthy thus far. Thoughts?

    Said the same thing last week . Van got a steal at 600K but has not treated him well .

  110. rickithebear says:

    Woodguy: Ollie was a -6.9 or so RelCor in CAL.

    Wilson read him right.

    I haven’t dug into why or who he played against, but he’s been better in WIN, but still a negative RelCor, and really, no one wants to add that.

    A Corsi
    How much procession could a corsi check
    If a corsi could check check!
    Yeah Corsi!
    Go Corsi!
    Tell us about the individual corsi!
    Oh Corsi!
    No!
    No!

    Pocession turnover
    10-11 to 11-12 in calgary
    109 takeaways and 105 giveaways.
    So the
    negative personal pocession changes is not him.

    BUT the rest he had bad numbers with.
    Iginla; Glencross; Tanguay and hagman
    365 give aways and 278 take aways.
    quite a difference there!
    -87

    the guys he was even with!
    95 giveaways and 90 take aways.
    -5
    Holly crap!
    takeaway give away slightly negative.
    play is slightly negative.
    Give away take away large negative.
    Play negative!

    Oh but there is more!
    what if we include Pocession variance from FO%.

    nah!

    it has to be just Corsi!
    the turnover ratio of teamates and FO%
    Has nothing to do with Pocession!
    OH my!
    LOL!

    WG!

    While i would like to Blame Jokinen completely.
    HIs 48% FO leading to 152 less processions over 2 years did contribute.

    That is usually is forward peripheral defending body between net.

    Give aways are more likely to be odd man back check, body behind.

    Now add in coming off the bench to defend procession or attack with poccesion dictated by coaches clearly defines a players corsi.

    There are fucking reasons for CORSI!

    You want to fight the fight.

    Quit being fucking lazy!

    Prove it to me!

    Corsi relative is a bitches game!
    and
    Lazy pathetic Work!

  111. "Steve Smith" says:

    G Money:
    It’s been said a few times now but it bears repeating.

    No point in fretting about cap dollars at this point.

    Do we not have a moral duty to warn anybody we’re contemplating overpaying that the fanbase will ignore this point and probably burn their furniture?

    (Unless we’re overpaying them for Thunderous Body Checks.)

  112. Deadman Waiting says:

    I’m a thread late, but I just wanted to add that if I’m reading Capgeek right, Sam is going to hit UFA at ~26 years of age with $20 million already in the bank. That takes some of the sting out of badly handled. If he addresses his defensive weakness over the next two seasons, he won’t suffer as a UFA, either.

  113. rickithebear says:

    Oh and WG:

    1. Takewawy /giveaway of player and teamates.
    2. FO win%
    3. Bench use re: defending or attacking
    is player procession numbers.

    It excludes
    1. Zone entry dictated by coached system or Zone start.
    2. player tendency for shooting or passing
    3. Pucks directed based on Pressure.

    Players and tea mates turning over pocession seems to be the only play affected pocession.
    The rest is Player personal for FO%
    and coaches for bench use.

    The only controlled players affect on procession is takeaway /giveaway.

    Wonder if it correlates with.
    Corsi!

    My guess is no!

  114. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Curtis Hamilton was qualified by the Edmonton Oilers today. In what can only be described as a surprise, the club must feel the injuries impacted performance to the point where another season is required to make a decision.

    By way of perspective, when Fernando Pisani (also a December birthday) was the same age as Curtis Hamilton is now, he had just finished his third year at Providence College. He had one more year to go there, followed by 2½ seasons in the AHL before he was ready to make the jump to the bigs.

    No telling that he will pan out, but I see Hamilton as a Pisani-type player, and it is rare that such player types are effective NHLers until their mid-20s. The injuries are a concern, but also a legit reason to give the guy a push. I have no problem with giving him (at least) another year; I always hate to give up on a prospect before you KNOW about him and I just don’t think we’re there yet with Hamilton.

  115. Jordan says:

    Lowetide: I think the Oilers are ordinarily predictable in many ways since 2010:

    1. Risk averse in the first three rounds.
    2. Walkabout after pick no 100
    3. often swing back to ranked picks late.

    There were two problems this year:

    1. They didn’t have any picks 4-90.
    2. They drafted two goalies
    3. Meaning we’re talking about 3 picks after Draisaitl.

    Taking pot shots at goalies is a bad plan in general, because goalies are voodoo.

    Taking late-round shots at goalies in a weaker draft class is the best time to take them.

    If they don’t take any next year, I will be much happier about the selections this year, because I want to beleive this is a strategic decision.

    WRT FAs… considering the cost involved… would anyone be surprised to see the Oilers leave Petry or shultz dangle for a bit to see if there are any offer sheets come in, in the hopes of more lottery picks for McDavid?

  116. Big Dan says:

    I was surprised they are keeping Gazdic considering they have Pinnizzoto to be that call-up guy. No point in having him and Gazdic on the Barons. So Gazdic, who is one of the NHL’s best fighters (but little else), has earned another year of NHL duty and I’m ok with that.

    By qualifying Gazdic, I think MacT has passed on Engelland. Too many other bidders has bid up the price. Wise choice.

    I agree with you all about Stastny. Stay away from the overrated shiny toy! The core is already there. Look for the reasonable gems like Fayne (who may go for too much $) and Quincey (a better bargain but he’s a LD).

    I really wanted Olli seven years ago. Not anymore! I’d prefer 30 points of solid two-way hockey from Chris Kelly (who’ll cover for Perron and Yakupov’s miscues) than 40 points of lackadaisical play from Jokinen. But I’d rather pick up Kelly for 3rd line purposes.

    Back to 2nd line needs. Olli also alternates good year, bad year. He and Derek Roy are both disasters. If the viable option is not there in the FA market, there’s got to be a deal available somewhere. I hope MacT doesn’t “settle” for Jokinen= unless it’s Jussi Jokinen, who I like.

    Santorelli is pointless in my eye. Arcobello is just as good. MacT is looking for someone with some experience and/or size.

    MacT needs to be patient because the trade market could shake out our answer after all of the dominoes fall. Let’s say the Blues sign Stastny or trade for Spezza. They may be willing to trade Berglund or even better, Sobotka (stats don’t say the whole story, he’s a gritty warrior I’ve coveted for years).

    Toronto has Nazem Kadri in play. They were going to deal him for Gorges; NONIS IS SCARY BAD. If Petry is asking for the moon, I’d swallow hard and see if some form of package can be worked out. I am going to channel my inner B.S. trade proposing that Leaf fans are so laughable at. This gets TO out of cap jail. Yakupov/Petry/Marincin for Phaneuf/Kadri.

    Let’s not forget Purcell was a natural center converted to RW in Tampa Bay. He gives us options as a solid, dependable 45-50 point guy.

  117. DBO says:

    So lets have some fun and go with the best, OK, and worst UFA scenario. 3 forwards and 2 D being the “goal”

    LT’s wet dream
    - Sign Winnick
    - Sign Kulemin
    - Sign Stastny
    - Sign Ehrhoff
    - Sign Fayne

    The Realistic scenario
    - Sign Jokinen
    - Sign Moss
    - Sign Brian Boyle
    - Sign Del Zotto
    - Sign Robidas

    The WTF scenario
    - Sign Penner
    - Sign Goc
    - Sign Fiddler
    - Sign McBain
    - Sign Engelland

    Ecstatic about 1st scenario, can live with 2nd and the 3rd is a trip down memory lane (tambo years). Although i would be fine with Penner as a 3rd line LW.

  118. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide: I think the Oilers are ordinarily predictable in many ways since 2010:

    1. Risk averse in the first three rounds.
    2. Walkabout after pick no 100
    3. often swing back to ranked picks late.

    There were two problems this year:

    1. They didn’t have any picks 4-90.
    2. They drafted two goalies
    3. Meaning we’re talking about 3 picks after Draisaitl.

    I like the Swede and the USHL kid is a decent to good late round bet. The BCJHL kid is no worse (not really) than Evan Campbell, but we were busy staring at all the good picks a year ago.

    Edmonton didn’t have a 2nd or a 3rd, took two goalies in six picks and then didn’t force themselves to be risk averse.

    I like the idea of shooting for the stars. In this case, it doesn’t look so good. I hope they do it again, but make risk averse picks in the top 90 as a hedge.

    I completely agree with this interpretation.

    But, it still needs some kind of rationale.

    I mean, ok you’ve laid out a reasonable strategy for a normal draft year and then suggested things got buggered up when reality hit and they didn’t have any picks in the 2nd and 3rd.

    I can buy that. It matches my own interpretation well.

    BUT… it doesn’t explain why when faced with no 2nd and 3rd, they chose to Evan Campbell picks instead of the Houck and Chase picks.

    I still think a good part of the rationale might just be the 2010 qualifying offers coming home to roost.

  119. Lowetide says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: I completely agree with this interpretation.

    But, it still needs some kind of rationale.

    I mean, ok you’ve laid out a reasonable strategy for a normal draft year and then suggested things got buggered up when reality hit and they didn’t have any picks in the 2nd and 3rd.

    I can buy that. It matches my own interpretation well.

    BUT… it doesn’t explain why when faced with no 2nd and 3rd, they chose to Evan Campbell picks instead of the Houck and Chase picks.

    I still think a good part of the rationale might just be the 2010 qualifying offers coming home to roost.

    I was surprised to see Hamilton and Ryan Martindale qualified, both of them were goners from my pov. Olivier Roy would have been less of a surprise, and Calgary flushed him.

  120. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide: I was surprised to see Hamilton and Ryan Martindale qualified, both of them were goners from my pov. Olivier Roy would have been less of a surprise, and Calgary flushed him.

    Throughout the year the Oilers PR department was pumping Ham’s tires pretty hard (I linked to several pieces they did on him in my piece).

    It’s hard to know what that means, but it looked (from that vantage point at least) like they might still have some affection for him.

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