DAYS

It was September 2007, the Edmonton Oilers had holes everywhere and the department of youth was being given every chance to make themselves known. That season was saw four significant rookies play a full season for the team:

  1. Sam Gagner 79, 13-36-49
  2. Andrew Cogliano 82, 18-27-45
  3. Tom Gilbert 82, 13-20-33
  4. Kyle Brodziak 80, 14-17-31

They’re all gone now, other NHL teams have been using Edmonton for an extended farm club since 2006 summer. Gagner was a golden boy from the second his name was announced, and Cogliano had the team made the moment he took a quick spin on Rexall ice. Gilbert? Yeah, he was good enough to play. Brodziak? He won the job that fall, and served notice in late summer that he was going to push for employment.

  • Kyle Brodziak: Selected 214th overall in 2003. 2 goals, 1 assist, +2. 18 shifts, 16:33 TOI, 1:59PP, 2:31PK. He was splendid based on the play-by-play and the results. Listening to Rod from the first shift of the night through the last it was clear that Brodziak was not only on a mission but had prepared for the opportunity. THIS is how players win NHL jobs.
  • Marc Pouliot: Selected 22nd overall in 2003. 0 goals, 0 assists, -1. 14 shifts, 13:50 TOI, 2:14PP, 1:45PK. He had a couple of chances and his line seemed to force the issue later in the third period, but the offense didn’t come for him tonight. With Reasoner injured and unable to take the final two faceoffs of the game, Pouliot did so and had a positive outcome both times.
  • Rob Schremp: Selected 25th overall in 2004. 0 goals, 0 assists, -1. 12 shifts, 11:12 TOI, 2:29PP, 0:00PK. Had a nice chance late but it sounded like he’s still a step or two behind this training camp. Schremp got passed over with the penalty brigade and didn’t seem to get it back until midway through the third period when he had what Morley described as the best chance for his line on the night.
  • Sam Gagner: Selected 6th overall in 2007. 1 goal, 0 assists, +1. 21 shifts, 17:33 TOI, 4:55PP, 0:39PK. Popped a goal and had several chances again tonight. I know they’re showcasing the kid and giving him every opportunity, but he’s also delivering results. Each time he does it, we say “well let’s wait until he does it against better competition.” Tonight’s result came in a game against an NHL team with NHL goaltending. At what point do we begin to take him seriously?

That was seven years ago, friends. This Edmonton Oiler team badly needs a Kyle Brodziak to step up and grab a job this fall, and the candidates are less proven than Brodziak (who had been around awhile but was unable to latch on to a big league job).

 VOLLMAN SLEDGEHAMMER

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I was thinking about Tyler Pitlick today. David Moss left the NHL (Sobotka too, this was a bad day for the league) and I think teams all over the NHL have decided to keep their powder dry on the role players and spend on the difference makers. If you’re Tyler Pitlick, today might have been a great day. I always saw him as a two-way guy who may eventually handle tough minutes, but maybe the gets moved up beginning this fall? As you see by the Vollman, Pitlick did get tough zone starts (but easy qual comp) in his 10 game NHL debut in 2013-14.

Hey, it’s a thought during a long summer day with little hockey to discuss. And yet, it’s probably true that Kyle Brodziak was working very hard back on July 10, 2007 in an effort to make a difference that late summer night in 2007.

The rewards of winter are earned in the dog days of summer.

  • Dallas Eakins, fall 2013 on Pitlick: “I keep trying to send him down and he keeps playing like that. Every time I turned around he was running into somebody. I grabbed him after the second period and asked him if he wanted to play in the NHL because if he keeps playing like that, it won’t be too long until he is. He needs to keep the fire lit and he bought himself another game tomorrow.”

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  1. Racki says:

    Pitlick was great in his mini-preview before he got thugged on the leg. What a shame.

    He looks like he could be a really useful bottom six piece though. Good enough by me. Hopefully he comes back again with more to prove.

    Also, quit trolling us Brodziak fans with comments like he was unable to latch on to a job here. Stupid GM’ing caused that! :P That 4th line was magic here, even with “Zorg” on it.

  2. Lowetide says:

    Racki:
    Pitlick was great in his mini-preview before he got thugged on the leg. What a shame.

    He looks like he could be a really useful bottom six piece though. Good enough by me. Hopefully he comes back again with more to prove.

    Also, quit trolling us Brodziak fans with comments like he was unable to latch on to a job here. Stupid GM’ing caused that! :P

    lol. Well I MEANT he had been unable until that fall. He won the job over my guy (Pouliot) fair and square.

  3. Racki says:

    Lowetide: lol. Well I MEANT he had been unable until that fall. He won the job over my guy (Pouliot) fair and square.

    Ahhh, gotcha! :D Every time I hear about Brodziak or Glencross is brings back sad feelings. haha

    I know they were just bottom six guys here, but you have to wonder… why would the Oilers break that apart? It was really an incredibly effective line (again, even with Stortini as the other winger). The only reasons for this: money (I think Brodziak was asking a bit? But Glencross didn’t exactly strike it rich) or you just want to lose.

    It’s not like trading Hall, or something like that, but to me, if you have really effective pieces like that anywhere in your line up, you hang on to them. Brodziak they at least got something for (magic beans which resulted in – gasp – nothing). Glencross walking for free to Calgary.. well, we don’t need to beat that dead horse any more I guess, but it’s one thing I can’t seem to stop harping on whenever reminded.

    Anywho… Pitlick.. hoping for more good things from him. Pretty sure he can be a good 4th liner, at worst!

  4. SinceTheWHADays says:

    I’ve read so much about so many lately that I don’t know very much. Is Bridziak a RFA, FA, or currently under contract?

  5. Racki says:

    SinceTheWHADays:
    I’ve read so much about so many lately that I don’t know very much. Is Bridziak a RFA, FA, or currently under contract?

    Brodziak has one year left on his deal (i.e. 2014/15) and then he is UFA.

  6. RexLibris says:

    Speaking of old Oilers, Cleary signed a 1 year, $1.5 million contract with the Red Wings today.

  7. justDOit says:

    Racki: Ahhh, gotcha! Every time I hear about Brodziak or Glencross is brings back sad feelings. haha

    I kept waiting for a contract announcement for Glencross, but… Then the $49M offer they threw at Hossa was rejected, and… well. I hoped for the best.

  8. justDOit says:

    The Wings sign Cleary, and Sharks re-sign Hannan. I thought it was 2007 for a minute there.

  9. Racki says:

    justDOit: I kept waiting for a contract announcement for Glencross, but… Then the $49M offer they threw at Hossa was rejected, and… well. I hoped for the best.

    This basically was about as big of proof of the “a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush” adage. Rather than chasing rainbows, if they’d lock up players that were known to work here…

    I’m sure Hossa would have been pretty good here too, granted, but the effort wasted on him and the lack of effort in signing a “minor” piece that made a decent impact here.. that had Oilers written all over it.

    MacTavish, thankfully, is not like that though that I can see. Players won’t likely get away because he’s too busy focusing on the big fish. I feel like if a player works here, he’ll stay. If he doesn’t, he’s gonzo.

    Edit: FYI, pretty sure i didn’t like the idea of signing Hossa to begin with. That’s not how you fix your team, in my opinion… with one magic player.

  10. justDOit says:

    Racki,

    Well I think it would have stung for MacT, not having Hossa or GlenX that next season. I continue to hope for the best.

  11. nycoil says:

    So 3yr deal in Omsk for Sobotka, and Blues retain his NHL rights for one year if he ever decides to return, is that right? As Austin Powers would say, “That train has sailed.”

    P.S.- Whenever I see Sobotka mentioned I think of “The Wire” season 2.

    And thanks, LT, for bringing up the memories again of the Kids…Nilsson, Cogliano, Gagner. And Gilbert and Brodziak and Glencross to boot. Ouch, it all fell apart so quickly after that. Painful. 7 years. SEVEN! Man.

  12. RexLibris says:

    Willis with an interesting take on the Sobotka thing.

    http://oilersnation.com/2014/7/10/blues-blunder-likely-ends-possibility-of-trade-with-edmonton

    He seems to think that the Oilers are hurt by the move because it takes another C off the table and removes the possibility of a trade.

    I think it may provide an opportunity for the Oilers to trade for Sobotka’s rights. Apparently money was a stumbling block and the Oilers would probably be happy to provide him with $4 million for the 2015-2016 season as a depth C. They’d need to trade for his rights, but I think there is something that could work here.

  13. theres oil in virginia says:

    RexLibris:
    Speaking of old Oilers, Cleary signed a 1 year, $1.5 million contract with the Red Wings today.

    That’s bad news for the Wings. They were noticeably quiet during the frenzy.

  14. justDOit says:

    theres oil in virginia: That’s bad news for the Wings.They were noticeably quiet during the frenzy.

    They’re one herniated disk away from the McDavid sweepstakes. May as well trade Datsyuk to the Oilers for a prospect and pick now!

  15. nycoil says:

    RexLibris,

    I guess the problem is if you address a future need: Sobotka for next year, what do you do about this year? Still need to go out and get a C. And then the conundrum reverses next year with 5 highly paid Cs. Trade one of Nuge, Sobotka, Draisaitl, Gordon and whatever other C they get this year away or move them to the wing? I think the Oilers can take their time if they are to trade for Sobotka’s rights. Doubt anyone is going to trade for him right now. He becomes a backup plan.

    Right now I think one possibility is a Rundblad and 2nd for Turris type trade. (a bit like the Paajarvi and 2nd for Perron but mixing positions up). The Oilers have several young blue line prospects. They need to find an out-of-conference dance partner with an underperforming, but still young C with pedigree. Klefbom likely has the highest value in the eyes of GMs due to his 1st rounder status. Klefbom and a pick for Brayden Schenn as a template?

  16. Ryan says:

    theres oil in virginia: That’s bad news for the Wings.They were noticeably quiet during the frenzy.

    The wings reportedly couldn’t find any dance partners.

    They’re not the destination that they once were.

  17. Racki says:

    Ryan: The wings reportedly couldn’t find any dance partners.

    They’re not the destination that they once were.

    As the friend of a very obnoxious Red Wings fan, I was quick and quite happy to point out to him that there was at least one player reported to have turned down more money from Detroit to play elsewhere.

  18. justDOit says:

    Ryan: The wings reportedly couldn’t find any dance partners.

    They’re not the destination that they once were.

    I guess they’ll have to rely on superb drafting and development. And Babcock.

  19. RexLibris says:

    justDOit: They’re one herniated disk away from the McDavid sweepstakes. May as well trade Datsyuk to the Oilers for a prospect and pick now!

    I would laugh myself sick if the Red Wings won the McDavid draft lottery.

    Flames fans are convinced they have a shot at 1st or 2nd overall and are spitballing lineups with either McDavid or Eichel.

    If the Red Wings got McDavid it would be one very funny bit of schadenfreude.

  20. justDOit says:

    RexLibris,

    I would not like to see McD or Eichel go to Cowtown. Anywhere else.

  21. justDOit says:

    RexLibris,

    On the subject of the 2015 draft, I just saw Nick Merkley at my neighbor’s place a few days ago. He’s a very solid young man – got to be close to 200 lbs already, and he won the WHL rookie of the year last season. They say he’s draft eligible for next year, and should be a first rounder.

    Anyone else know anything about him?

  22. Lois Lowe says:

    The Oilers are as likely as the Flames to get McDavid or Eichel, I don’t think the Canucks are much of a stretch either. Ottawa is also zeroing in on craptacular.

  23. Ryan says:

    Lois Lowe:
    The Oilers are as likely as the Flames to get McDavid or Eichel, I don’t think the Canucks are much of a stretch either. Ottawa is also zeroing in on craptacular.

    Yeah, the Canadian teams save for the Canadiens have the McDavid market cornered. There’s also Buffalo and maybe Colorado finds a way to tank again.

  24. RexLibris says:

    nycoil:
    RexLibris,

    I guess the problem is if you address a future need: Sobotka for next year, what do you do about this year? Still need to go out and get a C. And then the conundrum reverses next year with 5 highly paid Cs. Trade one of Nuge, Sobotka, Draisaitl, Gordon and whatever other C they get this year away or move them to the wing? I think the Oilers can take their time if they are to trade for Sobotka’s rights. Doubt anyone is going to trade for him right now. He becomes a backup plan.

    Right now I think one possibility is a Rundblad and 2nd for Turris type trade. (a bit like the Paajarvi and 2nd for Perron but mixing positions up). The Oilers have several young blue line prospects. They need to find an out-of-conference dance partner with an underperforming, but still young C with pedigree. Klefbom likely has the highest value in the eyes of GMs due to his 1st rounder status. Klefbom anda pick for Brayden Schenn as a template?

    That would be ideal, but I’m not sure there is a Turris situation out there.

    Schenn is a possibility, and I think the Flyers would want a young puck moving D back in exchange, someone still on an ELC they could send down for day one while they IR Pronger, and then immediately call back up, and have that player readily play 15 minutes a night. And a pick.

    The closest to Rundblad and a 2nd for Turris right now would probably be Marincin for Schenn (I’d eschew the additional pick initially, but wouldn’t go higher than a 3rd because I think Marincin has proven more capable in his limited time thus far than Schenn has in his longer professional career).

    That being said, looking over Schenn’s numbers from the past few seasons and I’m not sure he’d be any screaming hell as a 2C – http://www.extraskater.com/player/1/brayden-schenn#usage – but he is still young and there were many who doubted that Turris could fulfill his potential.

  25. Pouzar says:

    I don’t get the narrative around these parts that the Canucks are going to suck next year.
    Not singling out anyone but it just seems that way to me. To me sucking is bottom 5 in the NHL. Then it’s “Meh” territory then its “battling for playoffs” and then “playoffs”. The Canucks are at least Meh. I think we finally bust through into Meh territory fwiw!!!!

  26. Spydyr says:

    Ryan: The wings reportedly couldn’t find any dance partners.

    They’re not the destination that they once were.

    The City justed turned the water off in parts of Detroit.The team is going downhill fast.The playoff record will be in jeopardy this season.

  27. Lois Lowe says:

    Pouzar,

    I’ll bite.

    The Canucks have very good bottom 5 potential IMO. The Sedins are one year older, playing for their third coach in three years, and haven’t been able really find somone to play on their wing consistently the last two seasons, maybe Vrbata is that guy but maybe not..

    I don’t think Alex Burrows is really going to score 30 again in his career. The rest of the forward depth is no screaming hell either. Bonino was acquired at the height of his value considering how much luck he had last season (PDO was 103) and is unlikely to repeat the performance. Then they’re down into Jannick Hansen, Jordan Schroeder, Zack Kassian. Outside that, they’re depending on maybe Bo Horvat or Hunter Shinkaruk coming in and contributing, and as an Oiler fan you should know that’s trouble.

    I like their D corps and I think Tanev is wildly underrated. They will miss Garrison on the PP though as he’s the only real cannon.

    I’m not sold on Miller and Markstrom wants out, an injury to the former is curtains considering how well Lack handled the starting job.

  28. Pouzar says:

    Lois Lowe,

    If the Sedins are healthy no way are a they bottom 5 team regardless of their age. Like the Vrbata move and I think Burrows and Hansen have bounce back years. Not as down on Miller as some are.
    And like you said the D corp is good.

    Sounds like we have a bet??? :)

  29. justDOit says:

    Pouzar:
    Lois Lowe,

    Sounds like we have a bet???

    Bet-bet-bet-bet-bet-bet-bet-BET!?

  30. FastOil says:

    Vancouver is exactly what the Oilers should fear, not because of ability, but because of how their peak years failed.

  31. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    FastOil:
    Vancouver is exactly what the Oilers should fear, not because of ability, but because of how their peak years failed.

    what an absurd statement.

    They won the pres. trophy a couple of times no? made it to game 7 of the Stanley, right?

    I hate me some nucks… but unless this blog has gone full meathead, we need a better standard for “failure”

    ———-
    BTW if we are going to take points away from Bonino on PDO, we have to pile them on to a bunch of nucks, starting with Edler and Burrows.

  32. book¡je says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: what an absurd statement.

    They won the pres. trophy a couple of times no? made it to game 7 of the Stanley, right?

    I hate me some nucks… but unless this blog has gone full meathead, we need a better standard for “failure”

    ———-

    Blasphemy! You probably love Shelbyville and Wullerton too.

  33. G Money says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: They won the pres. trophy a couple of times no? made it to game 7 of the Stanley, right?
    I hate me some nucks… but unless this blog has gone full meathead, we need a better standard for “failure”

    What the Canucks are is a reality check.

    Not only is (re)building a contender really really tough, but …

    Once you’ve built it, actually winning the Stanley Cup is far from guaranteed. It takes not only a talented and well balanced team, but a hot goalie, and a large dollop of luck (as in breaks in the occasional tight game, plus luck in staying healthy).

    All we can ask of this rebuild is that we end up with a true Stanley Cup favourite.

  34. G Money says:

    Lowetide,

    Wow. That is, as you say, beyond credible.

    Combine a low cap with a generous dollop of stupidity and you get some sweet sweet fallout!

  35. striatic says:

    I don’t understand how St. Louis doesn’t do a sign and trade at whatever Sobotka was asking for.

    Get SOMETHING back, jesus.

  36. nycoil says:

    Lowetide,

    Couldn’t agree more. $2.7m take it or leave it is asinine. For the first time I am glad Armstrong didn’t come to Edmonton.

    LT, did you look at the WOWYs this season for Sobotka? I have never seen anything like it!

  37. nycoil says:

    striatic,

    My guess is that they didn’t think he was a KHL flight risk until it was too late.

  38. striatic says:

    nycoil,

    could you link to the WOWY?

  39. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide:
    The Blues had a bad day

    http://www.puckrant.com/slapshot/STUPID_STUPID_STUPID/3752

    Heh, at least when Lowe quibbled with Smyth over…how much was it again? $100,000 or something like that?…he managed to get assets in exchange. We piddled them all down the drain, but nevertheless got assets in exchange for a valuable player.

    If they were going to play hardball in salary, why the hell not say to the player “but if you don’t like it we can arrange for a trade”?

    Either way, Sobotka is overseas for a year (at least) and whenever he returns the Blues have his rights for one year thereafter before he becomes a UFA.

    This is why I had said that there is an opportunity here. Not for this year, but the Oilers could trade the Blues a cheap big-bodied prospect or a depth pick for Sobotka’s rights. Hartikainen would’ve been perfect, but maybe a 4th round pick conditional to the year depending on his return or Curtis Hamilton would pique some interest.

  40. RexLibris says:

    G Money: What the Canucks are is a reality check.

    Not only is (re)building a contender really really tough, but …

    Once you’ve built it, actually winning the Stanley Cup is far from guaranteed.It takes not only a talented and well balanced team, but a hot goalie, and a large dollop of luck (as in breaks in the occasional tight game, plus luck in staying healthy).

    All we can ask of this rebuild is that we end up with a true Stanley Cup favourite.

    …and boxing the Flames and Canucks about the ears for a few seasons.

  41. Hammers says:

    Ryan:

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    10 Jul 2014

    by Lowetide ⋅ in eakins, oilers 14-15, pitlick ⋅ 41 Comments
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    It was September 2007, the Edmonton Oilers had holes everywhere and the department of youth was being given every chance to make themselves known. That season was saw four significant rookies play a full season for the team:

    Sam Gagner 79, 13-36-49
    Andrew Cogliano 82, 18-27-45
    Tom Gilbert 82, 13-20-33
    Kyle Brodziak 80, 14-17-31

    They’re all gone now, other NHL teams have been using Edmonton for an extended farm club since 2006 summer. Gagner was a golden boy from the second his name was announced, and Cogliano had the team made the moment he took a quick spin on Rexall ice. Gilbert? Yeah, he was good enough to play. Brodziak? He won the job that fall, and served notice in late summer that he was going to push for employment.

    Kyle Brodziak: Selected 214th overall in 2003. 2 goals, 1 assist, +2. 18 shifts, 16:33 TOI, 1:59PP, 2:31PK. He was splendid based on the play-by-play and the results. Listening to Rod from the first shift of the night through the last it was clear that Brodziak was not only on a mission but had prepared for the opportunity. THIS is how players win NHL jobs.
    Marc Pouliot: Selected 22nd overall in 2003. 0 goals, 0 assists, -1. 14 shifts, 13:50 TOI, 2:14PP, 1:45PK. He had a couple of chances and his line seemed to force the issue later in the third period, but the offense didn’t come for him tonight. With Reasoner injured and unable to take the final two faceoffs of the game, Pouliot did so and had a positive outcome both times.
    Rob Schremp: Selected 25th overall in 2004. 0 goals, 0 assists, -1. 12 shifts, 11:12 TOI, 2:29PP, 0:00PK. Had a nice chance late but it sounded like he’s still a step or two behind this training camp. Schremp got passed over with the penalty brigade and didn’t seem to get it back until midway through the third period when he had what Morley described as the best chance for his line on the night.
    Sam Gagner: Selected 6th overall in 2007. 1 goal, 0 assists, +1. 21 shifts, 17:33 TOI, 4:55PP, 0:39PK. Popped a goal and had several chances again tonight. I know they’re showcasing the kid and giving him every opportunity, but he’s also delivering results. Each time he does it, we say “well let’s wait until he does it against better competition.” Tonight’s result came in a game against an NHL team with NHL goaltending. At what point do we begin to take him seriously?

    That was seven years ago, friends. This Edmonton Oiler team badly needs a Kyle Brodziak to step up and grab a job this fall, and the candidates are less proven than Brodziak (who had been around awhile but was unable to latch on to a big league job).
    VOLLMAN SLEDGEHAMMER

    I was thinking about Tyler Pitlick today. David Moss left the NHL (Sobotka too, this was a bad day for the league) and I think teams all over the NHL have decided to keep their powder dry on the role players and spend on the difference makers. If you’re Tyler Pitlick, today might have been a great day. I always saw him as a two-way guy who may eventually handle tough minutes, but maybe the gets moved up beginning this fall? As you see by the Vollman, Pitlick did get tough zone starts (but easy qual comp) in his 10 game NHL debut in 2013-14.
    Hey, it’s a thought during a long summer day with little hockey to discuss. And yet, it’s probably true that Kyle Brodziak was working very hard back on July 10, 2007 in an effort to make a difference that late summer night in 2007.
    The rewards of winter are earned in the dog days of summer.

    Dallas Eakins, fall 2013 on Pitlick: “I keep trying to send him down and he keeps playing like that. Every time I turned around he was running into somebody. I grabbed him after the second period and asked him if he wanted to play in the NHL because if he keeps playing like that, it won’t be too long until he is. He needs to keep the fire lit and he bought himself another game tomorrow.”

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    Racki says:

    July 10, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    Pitlick was great in his mini-preview before he got thugged on the leg. What a shame.
    He looks like he could be a really useful bottom six piece though. Good enough by me. Hopefully he comes back again with more to prove.
    Also, quit trolling us Brodziak fans with comments like he was unable to latch on to a job here. Stupid GM’ing caused that! That 4th line was magic here, even with “Zorg” on it.

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    Lowetide says:

    July 10, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    Racki:
    Pitlick was great in his mini-preview before he got thugged on the leg. What a shame.
    He looks like he could be a really useful bottom six piece though. Good enough by me. Hopefully he comes back again with more to prove.
    Also, quit trolling us Brodziak fans with comments like he was unable to latch on to a job here. Stupid GM’ing caused that!

    What goes around comes around . Truth .

  42. nycoil says:

    striatic,

    http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayer.php?pid=778&withagainst=true&season=2013-14&sit=5v5

    Hard to see visually but the numbers are quite incredible. Just about everyone was much, much better with him. Only exception was Oshie. Below is a graph someone put together that’s easier on the eyes.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsMUFJVCYAE0UhV.png

  43. book¡je says:

    Lowetide:
    The Blues had a bad day

    http://www.puckrant.com/slapshot/STUPID_STUPID_STUPID/3752

    Get on this MacT!

  44. Bruce McCurdy says:

    I’d rather have one Vlad Sobotka than two Steve Otts. What a fux pas by the Blues. :)

  45. LostBoy says:

    The Brodziak trade was more or less inexplicable at the time.

    So was the Gilbert trade (though subsequent events really cloud the waters on that).

    But is the Smid trade any different?

    That said, I fully endorse the subtext of this post – your problems aren’t solved (or alleviated) from within until someone steps up and solves them. Anton Lander has survived the Oilers version of development to become a real AHL 1C. On the Detroit model, he’d be nearly ripe. Arcobello manhandled the AHL late last year.

    Things change. People mature and grab opportunities.

    To me, at this stage, the options are down to either going high end (trading something that hurts for O’Reilly) or hoping for the guys in a position to do a Brodziak (Lander, mainly, or Arcobello) to do a Brodziak.

    Draisaitl is playing on this team, it’s a given. He’s the other top 6 C. Lander, I really believe, will survive the Oilers’ treatment and become the two-way 3C he was projected as. He just shouldn’t have been in the NHL for more than a taste up until now. But he’s for real and has proved it in Oklahoma, the only real question is whether he can overcome the shattered NHL confidence he’s been burdened with. He couldn’t late last year, and arguably shouldn’t have been asked to. But if anyone is going to do a Brodziak, he’s the man.

    I don’t think any meaningful help at C is coming, unless it’s a scary bold move.

    Next year might not be much better. But it’s getting better.

  46. theres oil in virginia says:

    Lowetide:
    The Blues had a bad day

    http://www.puckrant.com/slapshot/STUPID_STUPID_STUPID/3752

    So they gave him a firm offer of $2.7M, he refused, and they paid Ott $2.6M. It’s like they have a target for cap space that they want to keep. Why? What are they preparing to do? Capgeek says they have about $3.4M in space right now.

  47. Pouzar says:

    LostBoy,

    Nice post fine sir. I was about to post something like this but you put way better than I could. Instead of chasing Brodziak, who has regressed since his breakout season 2 years ago, lets protect the “Brodziak” we may have right now in Anton Lander. We’ve gone this far with the kid now let’s hope he’s hit the weight room and ready to be an everyday NHLer.

  48. Pouzar says:

    So Dubinsky is locked up. Gotta think RJ will be too come hell or highwater. Go get Anisimov MacT!!!!!

  49. Ca$h-Money! says:

    LostBoy,

    The Smid trade was different because Smid was terrible after the trade. TERRIBLE.

    Brodziak and Glencross went out and had the most successful years of their careers after they left. Gillbert was hit and miss. Smid after the fact looked like abandoning a sinking ship that had lots of money and term left on the deal.

  50. theres oil in virginia says:

    Just looking at the Canucks roster and I focused on Daniel Sedin’s stats. He shot an average of 12.5% from 2002-03 to 2011-12 (ranging from 10.4% to 15.4%). Then he shot 8.7% in 2012-13, and 7.1% in 2013-14. His SOG/game has stayed pretty consistent at just over 3 since 2006-07.

    Bad luck? I doubt it. Injured for the last two years? Shot quality going down? Shot falling off? I wonder what Brett Hull’s shooting % looked like over the years.

  51. theres oil in virginia says:

    Brett Hull‘s shooting % went down a couple of points over the last few years of his 19!!! year career too. (More like 17 years, 5 games in his first and last years, but whatever.)

    Do you think Calgary might regret the Brett Hull trade just a little bit?

  52. Pouzar says:

    theres oil in virginia,

    or the Savard trade? Or letting St Louis get away? :)

  53. theres oil in virginia says:

    Pouzar:
    theres oil in virginia,

    or the Savard trade? Or letting St Louis get away?

    Ain’t it grand!

  54. rickithebear says:

    A healthy oilers were 13-7-4 versus the east with 2 L to BOS
    Of the healthy line-up
    2L-1OTL were with the likes of
    HALLl-Gagner-PERRON
    Lander-RNH-EBERLE
    Gazdic-Smyth-JOnes/Pitlick/Pinazotto
    HENDRICKS-GORDON-Larsen

    So a healthy Oilers without
    7 4th line/ AHL/Dmen playing forward.

    we were
    14-5-3 versus the east.

    Detroit is a lottery team in the WEST??
    Lottery team in East?
    No blody way!

    There was alot of injury and transition.
    Betuzzi gone!
    Alfredson?
    the youth will get full seasons!

    Zetterburg(33)-Datsyuk(35)-Abdelkador(27)
    XXX-Nyquist(24)-Franzen(34)
    Tata(23)r-Sheahan(22)-Jurco
    Miller(30)-Helm(27)-Cleary(?)
    Jokim Annderson(25)-XXX

    Weiss (31) waiting to slot in center depth.

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