TRAINING CAMP HOPEFUL NO. 5: STEVE PINIZZOTTO

Steve Pinizzotto came over in a seemingly pedestrian mid-season trade with the Florida Panthers for Ryan Martindale. The minor league veteran made it all the way to the NHL in 2013-14, playing six games in orange and blue.  Pinizzotto

STEVE PINIZZOTTO RE 14-15 PREVIEW

PPG NAME GP G A PTS
.491 STEVE PINIZOTTO OKC RE 14-15 57 11 17 28
.200 STEVE PINIZOTTO OILERS RE 14-15 10 0 2 2

 

  1. Is he an NHL player? Not yet, although he’s had some chances in Washington and Vancouver. He’s from the Ryan Jones family of players, guys who are good enough to play but need a break because there’s too many of the same same at that end of the bell curve.
  2. So, nothing special? Yes. Nothing special. However, there are players in the NHL with the same talent level. He could in fact have a career.
  3. Why do the Oilers like him? Guys like Pinizzotto used to be called energy players. Skate in on the forecheck, hammer a guy against the boards, zip over to the other defenseman, hammer him again. Rinse repeat.
  4. Is it effective? No, because you never have the puck. However, a guy like Pinizzotto can be useful because he can pass and take a pass. And he’s physical, and can fight so there’s that on the resume, too.
  5. Is he big? No. That’s one reason I suspect he was passed over in the draft. He can play, though. That’s a fact.

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17 Responses to "TRAINING CAMP HOPEFUL NO. 5: STEVE PINIZZOTTO"

  1. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Watching him in OKC this year gave me one strong impression of Pins: reckless.

    This guy has no idea how to forecheck without taking a penalty and then finding a way to turn it into a second penalty.

  2. Frank The Dog says:

    So 6’1″ 200lbs is no longer big enough?

  3. Lowetide says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Watching him in OKC this year gave me one strong impression of Pins: reckless.

    This guy has no idea how to forecheck without taking a penalty and then finding a way to turn it into a second penalty.

    I’ve seen sweeping statements before like that on this fellow. If true, then he’s hopeless. My guess is the possibility of a major league salary may be enough for him to use his head for more than a hat rack.

  4. Lowetide says:

    Frank The Dog:
    So 6’1″ 200lbs is no longer big enough?

    That’s probably average.

  5. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide: sweeping statements

    I put it in hyperbolic form to gain attention.

    It’s an admittedly small sample size. He only played 30 games with the Barons, of which I probably watched 15 or so mostly while doing the dishes at the same time (there were a lot of Baron games watched like that in the Rom household this year).

    But, there were some stark memories. I particularly remember a game where they were still hanging on to the hopes of a playoff spot, up against Rockford, the team that just missed out on the playoffs, i.e., we eliminated them with just one game to spare.

    So.. we enter the third with a 4-3 lead.

    Pins takes an elbowing penalty (here’s fun btw… go through OKC game sheets. all his penalties are hard penalties. no hooking, holding the stick, etc. they are all boarding, elbowing, charging, etc.)

    Rockford scores to tie it up.

    NExt fucking shift. He takes another one. this time for cross-checking. And, he manages to get thrown out of the game for abusing the official.

    http://theahl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=1011933

    We killed the penalty and won the game… but man… like “the big mistake” by a D, did that game ever leave an impression.

    there are more like that too…

    http://theahl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=1011818

    http://theahl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=1011848

    —–
    as you say, though, the NHL is a different ball game and he kept himself to mostly fighting majors IIRC with the Oil…

    also… don’t count on my saw him bad even if I will.

  6. jake70 says:

    Way off topic but Pospisil and Raonic in an ATP final tomorrow …….these tennis canucks are making me chew my fingernails off this year. Only a 500 tourney but still.

  7. nycoil says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    If he plays in the show you’re going to love the combination of Pinizzotto’s hard penalties and Pouliot’s soft ones. :)

  8. jp says:

    Frank The Dog:
    So 6’1″ 200lbs is no longer big enough?

    Lowetide: That’s probably average.

    He’s “big enough”, but not to the point his size could be considered an asset. If he was 6’3″ 220 I suspect he’d be an NHL enforcer already.

  9. Halfwise says:

    And Subban signs with the Habs for 8 years, $9 million per year. Wow.

  10. John Chambers says:

    Halfwise,

    Amazing, but Im sure that’s the bar his agent set for an 8-year contract and the Habs are happy to build around him.

    But they opted for the bridge contract to penny-pinch over the past couple seasons. An 8-year contract then probably costs $5.5M per as that was pre Norris.

    Thank God Tambellini signed Hall and Eberle when he did or the Oilers would be buying out Purcell, replacing Fasth with an AHL goalie, and letting Petry walk next summer.

  11. anonymous says:

    While I understand they may not have liked Martindale anymore, I don’t understand trading anything for this type of player. Dime a dozen.

  12. Ducey says:

    anonymous,

    He outscored Martindale and provided more of a physical presence. What’s not to understand?

    I enjoyed watching him with the Oilers. He had that one game where the opposition was chasing him around all night after he beat the tar out of someone. He skates pretty well and seems to have some ability with the puck.

    He looks like a decent depth player. He will give you 41/42 AHL points in ~68 games. He did that two years in a row and was on track for that with OKC last year. Not sure what the NHLE is for that but its not insignificant. I’d rather have him around than Mike Brown.

  13. mumbai max says:

    Off Topic – Sorry – Salary Cap

    1. Three teams have 20 man rosters signed, all the rest have 21 or more.

    2. Only 4 teams are at the cap.

    3. Teams 5-30 are a combined 173 million under the cap.

    4. Teams in total are spending 45% of revenue on salaries given these numbers instead of the 50% negotiated in the last CBA.

    I wonder if the NHLPA imagined such a thing when they finally agreed to 50%?

    * all numbers were calculated on a napkin, using a dull pencil

  14. Pouzar says:

    I’ve got time for Mr. Zotto in the limited time I did get to see him.

  15. supernova says:

    mumbai max:
    Off Topic – Sorry – Salary Cap

    1. Three teams have 20 man rosters signed, all the rest have 21 or more.

    2. Only 4 teams are at the cap.

    3. Teams 5-30 are a combined 173 million under the cap.

    4. Teams in total are spending 45% of revenue on salaries given these numbers instead of the 50% negotiated in the last CBA.

    I wonder if the NHLPA imagined such a thing when they finally agreed to 50%?

    * all numbers were calculated on a napkin, using a dull pencil

    mumbai max,

    Good points.

    We do have to take into account not all contracts are signed yet (although it won’t take up $173 million)

    Other factors

    buyouts need to be added In. (Erhoff earned how much for example hut shows a $4 cap hit)

    As well as true salary being paid out this year.

    Once those 3 are added with your figures I would venture to say the number would be fairly close.

  16. mumbai max says:

    supernova: mumbai max,

    Good points.

    We do have to take into account not all contracts are signed yet (although it won’t take up $173 million)

    Other factors

    buyouts need to be added In. (Erhoff earned how much for example hut shows a $4 cap hit)

    As well as true salary being paid out this year.

    Once those 3 are added with your figures I would venture to say the number would be fairly close.

    Buyouts are included in the Capgeek numbers

  17. godot10 says:

    mumbai max:
    Off Topic – Sorry – Salary Cap

    1. Three teams have 20 man rosters signed, all the rest have 21 or more.

    2. Only 4 teams are at the cap.

    3. Teams 5-30 are a combined 173 million under the cap.

    4. Teams in total are spending 45% of revenue on salaries given these numbers instead of the 50% negotiated in the last CBA.

    I wonder if the NHLPA imagined such a thing when they finally agreed to 50%?

    * all numbers were calculated on a napkin, using a dull pencil

    You misunderstand the salary cap.

    50% of revenue corresponds to the midpoint between the cap and the floor, NOT to the cap.

    It is assumed that all teams will not spend to the cap for financial reasons, or for stage of development of the hockey team. So this is built in. If all the teams spend to the cap, it is around 110% of the players share. Hence why they have also built in escrow.

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