SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION HERE, ORLY!

Training camp ebbs and flows and bubbles, for the most part as expected. Every once in awhile, a small surprise comes our way. Today, there were several. If we look back to one year ago, the first TC cuts were fairly obvious (article is here). Let’s look back on the group and what we said:

FIRST CUTS (ONE YEAR AGO)

  1. Marco Roy: Impressed in Penticton and played well enough last night. There’s no reason to expect he could push deeper into camp, this is a completely reasonable time to get him out of town and back to the QMJHL.
  2. Jackson Houck: Came up injured during the rookie week, still he showed some nice things.
  3. Greg Chase: Impressed at rookie camp, certainly did more than some higher picks and is a player to watch in junior.
  4. Ben Betker: Huge stay at home guy showed well.
  5. Ty Bilcke: Showed well enough in rookie camp, exposed badly (as one might expect) as the competition improved.
  6. Reid Petryk: At 20, he might have shown more.
  7. Kyle Platzer: In some ways, the most impressive player among today’s cuts. I have no idea what he is, and am not going to add to the confusion. He sure scored a lot for a guy no one talks about, though.

Remember this was TC 2013 so these are (mostly) new hires who were drafted just a few months previous. No surprises at all there.

FIRST CUTS (TODAY)

  1. Greg Chase: What a difference a year makes. Greg Chase is a signed Oiler with a bright future. If I’m one of these other kids, I look at what Chase did and make myself a promise to work as hard this season and be in the same spot in 2015 fall. Looking at you, Marco Roy.
  2. Marco Roy: He went far too gently into that good night for my liking. Scored a nice goal the other night, but if the Oilers had seen more they would have kept him in my opinion. Disappointment. Full stop.
  3. Tyler Bunz: If Roy is a disappointment, Bunz is a tragedy. Ty Rimmer is now above him on the depth chart, meaning the Bakersfield job (starter) might already be decided. It would take a miracle for him to get a second contract from this organization. MacT has no attachement, Bunz isn’t making things tough for anyone. What’s the goalie version of a Hail Mary?
  4. Ben Betker: Big man played well enough but it’s tough to get noticed with all these blue around.
  5. Frans Tuohimaa: The de facto last man on the pro depth chart, Europe may be getting him back this fall.
  6. Keven Bouchard: Back to the QMJHL in an effort to impress the Oilers are turn back a depressing trend of wasted draft picks on goalies.
  7. Graeme Craig: He can buy a Buck Owens album now, he’ll likely walk the streets of Bakersfield this winter.
  8. Matt Ford: Veteran AHLer sent down before other Veteran AHLers. Probably significant? Nah. Look at the Oilers wingers!!!
  9. Mitch Holmberg: I like his passing. That’s going to get him some chances imo.
  10. Connor and Kellen Jones: If they penalty kill in the AHL as well as they did in Penticton, call them up and make the the 4line. Incredible.
  11. Alex Krushelnyski: I can’t think of anything to say, beyond understanding that genetics sometimes doesn’t give us our Father’s gifts.
  12. Connor Boland: Young man didn’t get a chance to show much, because of an idiot on the other team. Too bad.
  13. Jackson Houck: Really didn’t show much. Disappointing.
  14. Kyle Platzer: AGAIN this TC he impresses more than a few other 2013’s. I’m going to like him more if he scores in the OHL this season.
  15. Josh Winquist: A nice camp, can’t decide who’ll get the push between him and Holmberg.
  16. CJ Ludwig: He was noticed, that’s a good thing.
  17. Jordan Rowley: Interesting player. A name to keep in mind.

MAKING THE CUT (SO FAR)

If you’re Leon Draisaitl, Darnell Nurse, Valddy Hockey, this is a damn good day (especially the Russian). If you’re Kale Kessy, they noticed your speed young man. If you’re Travis Ewanyk management still likes you.

If you’re Ty Rimmer, you’re having a very good time.

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58 Responses to "SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION HERE, ORLY!"

  1. nycoil says:

    Who’s the Matsumoto in the photo? I know of Taro Tsujimoto, and of course, Paul Kariya…Jamie Storr was part Japanese, but Matsumoto?

  2. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Nashville’s got a lot of centres. Fisher(inj.), Ribeiro, Roy, Cullen, Gaustad, Jarnkrok, etc. If you’re EDM would you take Cullen off their hands for dirt cheap? Potentially push Draisaitl out of the lineup?

  3. Lowetide says:

    nycoil:
    Who’s the Matsumoto in the photo? I know of Taro Tsujimoto, and of course, Paul Kariya…Jamie Storr was part Japanese, but Matsumoto?

    http://theahl.com/stats/player.php?id=1744

  4. fifthcartel says:

    Not sure if its been posted but –

    Neil Hodge @ttneilhodge · 4h
    Moncton Wildcats forward Vladimir Tkachev will play for Edmonton in NHL exhibition game Wednesday. Edmonton trying to sign the free agent.

    Neil Hodge ‏@ttneilhodge 2h
    Maybe Tkachev’s agent thinks multiple teams will pursue him as free agent if he passes through next year’s NHL draft.

  5. nycoil says:

    Lowetide,

    Thank you. I had no idea.

  6. Younger Oil says:

    fifthcartel:
    Not sure if its been posted but –

    Neil Hodge @ttneilhodge·4h
    Moncton Wildcats forward Vladimir Tkachevwill play for Edmonton in NHL exhibition game Wednesday. Edmonton trying to sign the free agent.

    Neil Hodge ‏@ttneilhodge2h
    Maybe Tkachev’s agent thinks multiple teams will pursue him as free agent if he passes through next year’s NHL draft.

    The first one is very good news if it is true.

    If the second one is true as well though, that is an incredibly stupid agent. You’d have to be an idiot not to jump on a guaranteed NHL contract if you are an undrafted player. You never know when the next offer is going to come, and you think Tkachev would be thrilled to join the likes of Yakupov, Yakimov, Nikitin and potentially Slepyshev.

  7. Lowetide says:

    nycoil:
    Lowetide,

    Thank you. I had no idea.

    Well, you know the Outsiders and good booze so all is forgiven. 🙂

  8. leadfarmer says:

    Younger Oil,

    I’m sure they are still seeing what else Tkachev has. There is no way he would wait for next years draft if he has a contract offer on the table let alone wait to see if he gets a contract if he slips through the draft.

  9. justDOit says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Nashville’s got a lot of centres. Fisher(inj.), Ribeiro, Roy, Cullen, Gaustad, Jarnkrok, etc. If you’re EDM would you take Cullen off their hands for dirt cheap? Potentially push Draisaitl out of the lineup?

    Was watching the Blues/Stars game last night, and the announcers were talking about a Dallas center (Morin?), who is a career AHL guy and has posted some great numbers in the past, but is also hopelessly stuck behind the deep Dallas centers. He’s also eligible for waivers.

    Yup, Travis Morin. 88 points, plus 17 in 60-some games in the AHL last season.

    http://stars.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8471474

  10. Lois Lowe says:

    Lowetide: Well, you know the Outsiders and good booze so all is forgiven.

    Stay gold, Ponyboy.

  11. Ryan says:

    We’ve all thought it at one point in time during our lives, but most of us haven’t said it.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/22/tv-reporter-quits-fuck-it-ktva_n_5860486.html

  12. Snowman says:

    fifthcartel:
    Not sure if its been posted but –

    Neil Hodge @ttneilhodge·4h
    Moncton Wildcats forward Vladimir Tkachevwill play for Edmonton in NHL exhibition game Wednesday. Edmonton trying to sign the free agent.

    Neil Hodge ‏@ttneilhodge2h
    Maybe Tkachev’s agent thinks multiple teams will pursue him as free agent if he passes through next year’s NHL draft.

    Is there not a Russian equivalent of “A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush”..Maybe something like “A ruble in your babushka is worth two rubles in Siberia” or something like that…Jeez.

  13. RexLibris says:

    Ryan:
    We’ve all thought it at one point in time during our lives, but most of us haven’t said it.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/22/tv-reporter-quits-fuck-it-ktva_n_5860486.html

    I saw that today.

    Pretty funny stuff.

  14. RexLibris says:

    Re; Tkachev and signing an ELC or waiting until after next year’s draft.

    It would make more sense, wouldn’t it, to pursue a particular team and sign a contract now rather than sit through the draft when you might not have a say in which team selects you and then have a contract that has only minimal financial differences from what you could have had earlier.

    Also, the sooner he signs an ELC the sooner he can have a chance to stick with a team and start the clock ticking on RFA and UFA status, even if his contract slides this year.

    All the positives point to signing with the Oilers today. Don’t like how things turn out, go to the KHL/Europe or demand a trade. MacTavish has proven himself willing in the past to accommodate – Horak, Rajala.

  15. "Steve Smith" says:

    Snowman: Is there not a Russian equivalent of “A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush”..Maybe something like “A ruble in your babushka is worth two rubles in Siberia” or something like that…Jeez.

    Hey, can’t blame him for hoping for the best. I wonder how it will turn out?

  16. Woodguy says:

    Marco Roy: He went far too gently into that good night for my liking. Scored a nice goal the other night, but if the Oilers had seen more they would have kept him in my opinion. Disappointment. Full stop.

    I disagree with this.

    No CHLer got a long look except Nurse and DrySaddle.

    One is going to be the 2C and the other has a chance to make the team.

    No other CHLers had a chance to make the team.

    Roy was traded for by the Memorial Cup hosting Quebec Ramparts to help bolster the Cup host in May of last year.

    He’s been going back to junior for a while now.

    Eakins spoke about getting the CHLers back to their clubs quickly here:

    http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/

    Bah, no direct link. Its Sept 20th, “Practice Raw” with Eakins.

    3:12 mark:

    “….we are very sensitive to these guys who are going back to junior…..their seasons are starting…..and we know their teams need them.”

    “…and we don’t want to keep them around too long unnecessarily and hurt their teams. We want to have a great partnerships with their teams and so we’re thinking about that too…we’re trying to get those guys in early and get them on their way”

    Roy wasn’t making this team.

    Chase wasn’t making this team.

    Roy showed up in the same kinda of shape as Chase, he probably would have got some primo partners in his one game as well.

    Hope he shows up better next year.

    He did score a goal in his one game (assisted by DrySaddle)

    So he’s got that going for him…..

  17. Woodguy says:

    Snowman,

    Neil Hodge ‏@ttneilhodge2h
    Maybe Tkachev’s agent thinks multiple teams will pursue him as free agent if he passes through next year’s NHL draft.

    There is no bloody way on Gord’s Green Earth that young man passes through the draft again.

    If he wants to play in the NHL either he signs with Edmonton or he gets drafted by random team next year.

    Is EDM a better destination than RANDOM?

    Let’s watch and find out!

  18. godot10 says:

    It all depends what draft round equivalent salary and signing bonus the OIlers are willing to pay for Tkachev whether it is in his interest to sign or not.

    Maybe he wants Chase’s contract, where the Oilers had to pay way beyond 7th round money to sign him.

    For a Russian, it actually may be better to remain unsigned and undrafted, and then not only use the KHL as leverage, but multiple NHL teams.

    Man, there seem to be some people here who would sign any piece of paper stuck in front of their noses.

    If one is good, and one knows that one is good, there is never any rush to sign anything.

  19. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    “Steve Smith”: Hey, can’t blame him for hoping for the best. I wonder how it will turn out?

    a mild case of “Steve Smith” is, at this point, highly probable.

  20. stephen sheps says:

    “Steve Smith”: Hey, can’t blame him for hoping for the best. I wonder how it will turn out?

    like always? isn’t that the saying?

  21. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    On Tkachev and contracts… best to look at Tolchinsky as the precedent.

    http://www.capgeek.com/player/2571

    talked about it here:

    http://www.theoilersrig.com/2014/09/training-camp-stories/

    The league-wide precedent for this is probably last year’s signing of Sergey Tolchinsky by the Carolina Hurricanes. Tolchinsky, like Tkachev, was a smaller, Russian forward playing in North America that went undrafted and got a camp invite from an NHL club.

    Looking at the entry level contract Tolchinsky signed as a preview, the Oilers are likely to sign Tkachev (if they do and if they don’t one can only assume they are more obtuse than we’ve come to expect) to a cheap deal (cap hit of just under $600K, for reference that’s less than Travis Ewanyk’s current deal).

  22. Woodguy says:

    godot10:
    It all depends what draft round equivalent salary and signing bonus the OIlers are willing to pay for Tkachev whether it is in his interest to sign or not.

    Maybe he wants Chase’s contract, where the Oilers had to pay way beyond 7th round money to sign him.

    For a Russian, it actually may be better to remain unsigned and undrafted, and then not only use the KHL as leverage, but multiple NHL teams.

    Man, there seem to be some people here who would sign any piece of paper stuck in front of their noses.

    If one is good, and one knows that one is good, there is never any rush to sign anything.

    Hopefully they do that.

    Its just money and the city gave Batman lots with his new rink.

    This is where he should spend it (hockey-wise) outside the cap.

    If they nickle and dime Vladdy Hockey I’ll be pissed.

    I don’t think MacT will though.

  23. Bank Shot says:

    Roy turns twenty in a month and a half. LT is right that you would have hoped he would show enough to get a contract as did Chase.

    Playing year 20 in juniors is usually the kiss of death for a prospect.

  24. cahill says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Looking at the entry level contract Tolchinsky signed as a preview, the Oilers are likely to sign Tkachev (if they do and if they don’t one can only assume they are more obtuse than we’ve come to expect) to a cheap deal (cap hit of just under $600K, for reference that’s less than Travis Ewanyk’s current deal).

    If I’m Tkachev’s agent, I look for a deal similar to Chase’s. Where the signing bonus is 92.5 K per year. If you look at Chase’s actual cap hit it’s only 745 (can go up to 925K with bonuses) versus Tolchinsky which is $591,667.

    If I’m MacT I would do the deal for a various reasons;
    a. He looks like at the very least an AHL player.
    b. As WG stated it’s just money
    c. The likelihood of Chase or Thachev hitting those bonus money is slim and if they do hell the Oiler’s have a 2nd line player signed for under a million.
    d. To add to point a. there are several Oiler prospects/AHL players that are coming into their final season that the Oilers may decide to move on from C. Hamilton, R. Hamilton, Acton, Pinnizzoto, Miller & Potentially Pitlick and Lander. The Oilers have room to add forwards to this group. I only see Slepy, McCarron, Platzer, Roy & Houck needing to be signed for next year. In addition to the current AHL only contract players.

  25. RexLibris says:

    Found this today. http://imgur.com/gallery/If9Uo4q

    I could watch it for hours. But then again, I’m an Oiler fan, so my entertainment threshold is already pretty low.

  26. justDOit says:

    RexLibris,

    Then get ready for the good stuff! (you’ll need to anyway, because this season will undoubtedly be better)

  27. RexLibris says:

    Corgis.

    Hockey Gords.

    I don’t think _____ means what you think it does.

    Because Oilers.

    Chaos inc.

    Stan Weir.

    I’ll have a beer and then I’ll have another.

    We hoped for the best and it turned out like always.

    Saw him good.

    Bastards!

    C-L-R

    Everybody’s Gretzky!

    Chance.

    Scarlett Johansson.

    I’m the only one who loves the dog.

    The camping box.

    Hockey News, fall issue circa 1964

    An NHL player with hair on his ass.

    These are just some of the many things that we share on this site. Man, that is some kind of dysfunctional family, but holy hannah I wouldn’t trade it for the world.

  28. Derek says:

    RexLibris:
    Corgis.

    Hockey Gords.

    I don’t think _____ means what you think it does.

    Because Oilers.

    Chaos inc.

    Stan Weir.

    I’ll have a beer and then I’ll have another.

    We hoped for the best and it turned out like always.

    Saw him good.

    Bastards!

    C-L-R

    Everybody’s Gretzky!

    Chance.

    Scarlett Johansson.

    I’m the only one who loves the dog.

    The camping box.

    Hockey News, fall issue circa 1964

    An NHL player with hair on his ass.

    These are just some of the many things that we share on this site. Man, that is some kind of dysfunctional family, but holy hannah I wouldn’t trade it for the world.

    Hockey Jesus

    Sugar Tits

    I’m fairly indifferent to Belgium

    “Get your shine box!”

    Lordy.

    The Human Rake

    Grebs Acid Blotter

    SIDEBURNS!

  29. RexLibris says:

    justDOit:
    RexLibris,

    Then get ready for the good stuff! (you’ll need to anyway, because this season will undoubtedly be better)

    Wonderful.

    Which of course requires the following reply.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk

  30. stephen sheps says:

    Derek,

    I’d almost forgotten about my indifference to Belgium. A recent clean-up of my own blogroll sent me back to that page… well played

  31. RexLibris says:

    Sideburns and Sugar Tits.

    How could I have forgotten?

    And, of course, countless Seinfeld references – I GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH YOU PEOPLE!

    Which leads me to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD4Z32HB3U8

  32. justDOit says:

    RexLibris: How could I have forgotten?

    I think you got most of the main references covered. SB and ST referred to mostly fringe players, and those periods in Oiler history were relatively short-lived.

    In addition, ‘sugar-tits’ (regarding Schremp) always made me feel uncomfortable and awkward. Almost as much as when Hunter calls Eakins ‘Chicken-hawk’. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaalmost. So it’s easy to forget that little gem.

  33. RexLibris says:

    Jordan Staal out with a broken leg and Nylander is the (latest) saviour of the Leafs.

  34. G Money says:

    RexLibris,

    Drouin with broken thumb and Datsyuk waiting for shoulder MRI.

    Man, not a good week for NHL C.

    Please, Toddler Nuge, stay healthy!!!!

  35. G Money says:

    RexLibris: Corgis.

    The funniest thing is that the credit for this now established LT meme goes to Art.

    Speaking of which: “Hi Art!”

  36. spoiler says:

    Derek: Hockey Jesus

    Sugar Tits

    I’m fairly indifferent to Belgium

    “Get your shine box!”

    Lordy.

    The Human Rake

    Grebs Acid Blotter

    SIDEBURNS!

    The vaunt.

    That was the first one to really strike a chord with me and probably still my favorite Lowetidism. Can’t remember if it was Dennis that came up with it, that’s my first guess, but it could have been Lowetide or Mudcrutch or someone else. Love the Seinfeld stuff too. And who can hate Stan Weir without experiencing the Wrath of Stahn?

    Great news for Tkachev today. Absolutely great. I don’t think any of the other junior age forwards were anywhere near as aware in their own end. He deserves the recognition. And of course its a sweet negotiating tactic too. Get this kid signed, dammit!

    There are four lights! That needs to be in there.

  37. justDOit says:

    High Art?

  38. book¡je says:

    “Steve Smith”: Hey, can’t blame him for hoping for the best. I wonder how it will turn out?

    Glad you are back, I am sorry I called you the Dalai Lama.

  39. wheatnoil says:

    None of you have pointed out that we still don’t know why LT hates Smid so much!

  40. RexLibris says:

    book¡je: Glad you are back, I am sorry I called you the Dali Lama.

    You know, I was really hoping someone on the internet had made a Dali Llama, its neck all twisted and crooked, maybe the osicles on its head are melting and falling over, its massively long legs stretching down on the earth like they were reaching from the clouds.

    I am disappointed.

  41. RexLibris says:

    wheatnoil:
    None of you have pointed out that we still don’t know why LT hates Smid so much!

    Its the sideburns.

    Ooh, meta-reference!

  42. Lowetide says:

    the vaunt was definitely Dennis, and I think Dennis at oilfans Dennis so that goes back.

  43. spoiler says:

    Shawshank, and on a related note, Fussy Britches.

  44. wheatnoil says:

    Regarding Tkachev and the contract… let’s not get too worried about things now. If it’s true that the Oilers are trying to get a contract done, I imagine it’ll get done. They have until Oct 1 (or until they release him from his try-out I imagine). So, there’s no rush to get a deal signed. They can negotiate back and forth until time is up and strike the best deal either side could get at that point.

    If Tkachev had no desire to sign with Edmonton, he wouldn’t have attended a camp tryout where the only team that could possibly sign him would be Edmonton. Clearly there’s an interest there from his party and I imagine his agent is trying to get the best deal possible, acknowledging that MacT isn’t going to open with a particularly high offer for an undrafted junior tryout.

  45. spoiler says:

    wheatnoil:
    Regarding Tkachev and the contract… let’s not get too worried about things now. If it’s true that the Oilers are trying to get a contract done, I imagine it’ll get done. They have until Oct 1 (or until they release him from his try-out I imagine). So, there’s no rush to get a deal signed. They can negotiate back and forth until time is up and strike the best deal either side could get at that point.

    If Tkachev had no desire to sign with Edmonton, he wouldn’t have attended a camp tryout where the only team that could possibly sign him would be Edmonton. Clearly there’s an interest there from his party and I imagine his agent is trying to get the best deal possible, acknowledging that MacT isn’t going to open with a particularly high offer for an undrafted junior tryout.

    I think that’s a fair assessment. My concern was whether the Oil want to sign him. They’ve been kind of anti-smurf lately. But escaping the Junior cuts is a great sign. I can’t see why they would keep him and not be trying to sign him.

  46. book¡je says:

    RexLibris: You know, I was really hoping someone on the internet had made a Dali Llama, its neck all twisted and crooked, maybe the osicles on its head are melting and falling over, its massively long legs stretching down on the earth like they were reaching from the clouds.

    I am disappointed.

    uhm, its the internet, of course someone has done that.

  47. jp says:

    justDOit:

    In addition, ‘sugar-tits’ (regarding Schremp) always made me feel uncomfortable and awkward.

    Huh. That was one of my favorites. Not sure what that says about me.

    Seemed to capture the essence of the player.

  48. Halfwise says:

    book¡je: uhm, its the internet, of course someone has done that.

    Damn you guys are good.

  49. jp says:

    RexLibris:
    Found this today. http://imgur.com/gallery/If9Uo4q

    I could watch it for hours. But then again, I’m an Oiler fan, so my entertainment threshold is already pretty low.

    Where’s Bruce?

  50. jp says:

    cahill: If I’m Tkachev’s agent, I look for a deal similar to Chase’s.Where the signing bonus is 92.5 K per year.If you look at Chase’s actual cap hit it’s only 745 (can go up to 925K with bonuses) versus Tolchinsky which is $591,667.

    If I’m MacT I would do the deal for a various reasons;
    a. He looks like at the very least an AHL player.
    b. As WG stated it’s just money
    c. The likelihood of Chase or Thachev hitting those bonus money is slim and if they do hell the Oiler’s have a 2nd line player signed for under a million.
    d. To add to point a. there are several Oiler prospects/AHL players that are coming into their final season that the Oilers may decide to move on fromC. Hamilton, R. Hamilton, Acton, Pinnizzoto, Miller & Potentially Pitlick and Lander.The Oilers have room to add forwards to this group.I only see Slepy, McCarron, Platzer, Roy & Houck needing to be signed for next year.In addition to the current AHL only contract players.

    I’m sure a deal will be announced soon.

    Re: “it’s just money”. It’s not even much money. That is, unless Tkachev is asking for something really outrageous. He’ll only actually going to be making his AHL salary and signing bonus for most/all of his ELC. And if he’s making more I think everyone’s happy.

  51. Hammers says:

    Right now i’m more concerned over Leon & Nurse . We need to see these 2 in as many situations as possible and I say play them every preseason game you can . As for Ewanyk & Kessey they should both be happy with 1 more kick at the can so to speak but we all know there in the next round of cuts . Tkachev will probably sign tomorrow before the game ( no sign no play) if you want to be tough but I don’t see McT doing it that way . Either way this is probably his last game before returning to junior . The 2 Finns , Yak 2 , Pilick , Pinzotto , Acton ,Wesgard are probably figting it out for 2 spots with Gaz injured . Lander stays .

  52. Oddspell says:

    wheatnoil:
    Regarding Tkachev and the contract… let’s not get too worried about things now. If it’s true that the Oilers are trying to get a contract done, I imagine it’ll get done. They have until Oct 1 (or until they release him from his try-out I imagine). So, there’s no rush to get a deal signed. They can negotiate back and forth until time is up and strike the best deal either side could get at that point.

    If Tkachev had no desire to sign with Edmonton, he wouldn’t have attended a camp tryout where the only team that could possibly sign him would be Edmonton. Clearly there’s an interest there from his party and I imagine his agent is trying to get the best deal possible, acknowledging that MacT isn’t going to open with a particularly high offer for an undrafted junior tryout.

    Does cutting him from the roster qualify as releasing him from his tryout? Also is he going back to Moncton to play in the CHL this year?

    If the answer to both questions is yes then Tkachev is definitely playing in the CHL this season. If he’s not holding out then he should have been signed and cut as per management’s wish to return all CHL players to their teams ASAP, Is it possible that Tkachev is holding out on his deal to try and get as many tryout games as possible with the big club?

    Too crazy?

  53. Kmart99 says:

    Oddspell: Does cutting him from the roster qualify as releasing him from his tryout? Also is he going back to Moncton to play in the CHL this year?

    If the answer to both questions is yes then Tkachev is definitely playing in the CHL this season. If he’s not holding out then he should have been signed and cut as per management’s wish to return all CHL players to their teams ASAP, Is it possible that Tkachev is holding out on his deal to try and get as many tryout games as possible with the big club?

    Too crazy?

    If I had to guess, I’d say management wants to see him in one more game before deciding to give him a contract or not

  54. Kmart99 says:

    jp: Where’s Bruce?

    Still watching the gif…

  55. czar says:

    The Great One is going to be a grandparent. Seems awfully young to be a great grandparent but congrats Wayne and family!

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/the-great-ones-daughter-expecting-first-child/

  56. judgedrude says:

    “What’s the goalie version of a Hail Mary?”

    I would think that a 59 save shutout might qualify.

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