OILERS TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR DRAISAITL, OILERS

The Edmonton Oilers did the right thing tonight and in doing so gave themselves a better future. Romp through the dub Leon, no one doubts you. It just isn’t time. Yet.

Elliotte Friedman: Oilers are expected to send Leon Draisaitl back to junior before game time Sunday. There was a rumour a German team had asked if he would come back. It’s not going to happen. Source

 

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  1. Surly says:

    Would be fantastic if both the Rockets and the Greyhounds could make it to the Mem Cup so we could watch Leon up against Nurse.

    Gotta feel sorry for the Germans…two losses to the Swiss and they are now relegated out of the World Juniors (at least I think that is how it worked out based on these box-scores).

  2. misfit says:

    Best move contract-wise. Still not sure he’s any better off developing in the Dub than he would be in the NHL. That said, Kelowna is a much better program at least based on the NHLers they’ve produced compared to the Raiders.

    Draisaitl isn’t Gagner.

  3. TemujinBC says:

    This is (finally) the right thing to do.

    When MacT answered “no” to the question of whether he regretted starting the season with only 2 NHL centers it should have been obvious to everyone that he was lying.

    I see this as some small proof of that.

  4. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Saw Germany get relegated tonight.

    Fiala is a pretty impressive offensive talent. Muller has a really nice outlet pass, but, in this game, I didn’t see much offensive creativity or acumen.

    ——–
    Finally!

    They never should have even entertained keeping Draisaitl up. Should have told him the day he was drafted.

  5. book¡je says:

    I think the real story Monday is going to be about how the Oilers messed up in interpreting the CBA in a way that sees Draisaitl sent down AND this year counting against his RFA status.

    Because Oilers.

  6. Snowman says:

    Fantastic news if 30 games too late. Better late than never and he should have a damn good run in Kelowna. Beyond last and best chance texaco for Lander.

    If Lander gets some traction here are we looking at nuge, drai, eichel, lander/gordon for next year?

    Call me crazy but too many of those young men have too little experience again. 3 or 4 years thats scary but next year it might be…interesting.

  7. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Seriously bummed by the news from CapGeek and especially about the health of its operator.

    The last 6 months have seen the disappearance of ExtraSkater and CapGeek along with the archived works of IOF & MC79 plus, no doubt, others. Really makes me wonder about the stability of the Internet as an information source. It’s like once a month or so we have a big fire and throw all the books onto it.

    Damn.

  8. VanOil says:

    I wish Draisaitl could of had the opportunity to play for his country and save them from relegation. I sometimes feel it is a shame that the Oilers can not be relegated. I imagine the Oilers management teams name is dirt with the German Ice hockey association right now, much as it is with the rest of us.

  9. Racki says:

    Can’t say I miss the advanced stats sites, but CapGeek is a site EVERY-F’in-BODY used. Even Bob McKenzie referenced it plenty of times. What a big loss for the hockey community. However, on a less selfish note, I hope that Matthew Wuest’s health problems aren’t serious to the point of being terminal.

    When CapGeek broke onto the scene, I remembered thinking it was just nothing more than a clone of NHL Numbers or NHLscap. It really wasn’t.. at first, other than being a little prettier looking. It didn’t take long until it blew the doors off the other cap sites and became a critical site to all hockey fanatics.

  10. Bruce McCurdy says:

    VanOil:
    I wish Draisaitl could of had the opportunity to play for his country and save them from relegation. I sometimes feel it is a shame that the Oilers can not be relegated. I imagine the Oilers management teams name is dirt with the German Ice hockey association right now, much as it is with the rest of us.

    I don’t buy the notion that somehow the World Junior is more important than the NHL. There’s so much hype about the tourney in this country that it gets blown WAAAY out of proportion, but really, folks, it’s just an age-group tournament with pockets of interest and much larger ones that neither know nor care. I wonder how many German hockey fanatics are seriously pissed at the Oilers right now.

    My thought is with the hard deadline of Jan 4 that the Oilers may have given Draisaitl the choice of a third World Junior experience with his perennially weak national team, or a couple more weeks with his perennially weak (but NHL) club team. If they did, I would expect him to choose NHL 10 times out of 10. If they didn’t, I still don’t see that it was such a bad decision. Maximize his NHL experience this year, then move him out at the optimally expedient date. (Assuming they actually do of course, at this point I share Bookie’s fear of a screw-up!)

  11. Gerta Rauss says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    I agree Bruce, it wouldn’t surprise me if Drai had some input in the decision.

    And we can’t overlook the NHL paycheck either

  12. Gordies Elbow says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Bruce McCurdy,

    I agree Bruce, it wouldn’t surprise me if Drai had some input in the decision.

    And we can’t overlook the NHL paycheck either

    That, combined with injury risk.

    $5k per day, US funds, based upon his $925k salary.

    $70k US for the last two weeks, for a player that has a lifetime earnings ~$350k.

    Anyone ask what WJC players do for insurance? Cost to play, combined with the loss in income might have made him shy away from it.

    We can’t forget that while these kids are playing, they have a lot of money on the line.

  13. Lowetide says:

    Bruce McCurdy: I don’t buy the notion that somehow the World Junior is more important than the NHL. There’s so much hype about the tourney in this country that it gets blown WAAAY out of proportion, but really, folks, it’s just an age-group tournament with pockets of interest and much larger ones that neither know nor care. I wonder how many German hockey fanatics are seriously pissed at the Oilers right now.

    My thought is with the hard deadline of Jan 4 that the Oilers may have given Draisaitl the choice of a third World Junior experience with his perennially weak national team, or a couple more weeks with his perennially weak (but NHL) club team. If they did, I would expect him to choose NHL 10 times out of 10. If they didn’t, I still don’t see that it was such a bad decision. Maximize his NHL experience this year, then move him out at the optimally expedient date. (Assuming they actually do of course, at this point I share Bookie’s fear of a screw-up!)

    WELL. I NEV, yeah that’s about right.

  14. Racki says:

    I don’t blame players that choose to stay in the NHL. That’s their decision, and there’s nothing wrong with it. However, I personally think this tournament contains better hockey than all but the Stanley Cup playoffs. Curtis Lazar isn’t in the tourney right now because it’s just any old tourney. It’s obviously not as huge in places like Denmark, Germany, Switzerland as it is here though, but that has to do more with the sport’s popularity abroad as much as the tournament. Those Germans that would say “what the heck is the ‘WJHCs’??” would also probably also ask “who the heck is Leon Draisaitl?”.

    Anyways, I’m all pro-choice here! 😛 I’m sure the Oilers gave Leon a choice between losers, and he took the loser that paid more.. nothing wrong with that.

  15. Bank Shot says:

    The list of players that have been sent back halfway through their 18 year old NHL season is pretty thin.

    I can really only come up with Grigorenko, and Sbisa. You have some other cases like Niedderieiter who was saved by the lockout after playing 55 games and Turris who was sent back to the AHL after playing his 19 year old season in the bigs but they aren’t exact matches.

    The list is very short but none of these guys came on like gangbusters in the next season or two after their first but of NHL failure. We shouldn’t expect a huge leap out of Draisaitl next year either.

    You have to hope to god that Mact has learned a lesson and Draisaitl is penciled into the lineup as the first call up as best. It’d probably be better if he spent the whole season in the AHL.

  16. VanOil says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    I understand the arguments about professional play and pay checks versus nationalist duty, in every sport. I also understand that no one outside of Canada gives a rats ass about the World Juniors.

    But the opportunities to play in such events are fleeting. The opportunities to play for a shitty Oilers team stretch way into the distance (also he was healthy scratched twice in this time period).

    NHL players like Nuge and Lazar seem to value there World Jr experiences. Even if it is only to once again prove to themselves they are dominant player in there age cohort and will be again on day in the NHL.

    The only redeeming factor I can see in keeping Draisaitl up in a league he should have played no more than a few tasters games in is developing a relationship with Nelson. If Nelson is the coach next year this might be good. Draisaitl should have been in Jr way before the coaching change was made though, for both his and the teams fortunes.

  17. VanOil says:

    Why is Eakins scouting the Vancouver v. Detroit game for the Oilers? Is this just a nice way for him to get free tickets? https://twitter.com/botchford/status/551570661139689473

    We know Vancouver does not like to trade with the Oilers and Detroit would only likely offer us a deal that make the Oilers look foolish… oh damn I think i just answered my own question.

  18. Derek says:

    Racki:
    I don’t blame players that choose to stay in the NHL. That’s their decision, and there’s nothing wrong with it. However, I personally think this tournament contains better hockey than all but the Stanley Cup playoffs. Curtis Lazar isn’t in the tourney right now because it’s just any old tourney. It’s obviously not as huge in places like Denmark, Germany, Switzerland as it is here though, but that has to do more with the sport’s popularity abroad as much as the tournament. Those Germans that would say “what the heck is the ‘WJHCs’??” would also probably also ask “who the heck is Leon Draisaitl?”.

    Anyways, I’m all pro-choice here! I’m sure the Oilers gave Leon a choice between losers, and he took the loser that paid more.. nothing wrong with that.

    I’m pretty confident if you took the most dominant World Jr team and put them in a 7 game series vs a KHL, SEL, or AHL team they’d be swept in 4 straight.

    The World Jrs are entertaining because of the high intensity of the games coupled with the sub par defensive coverage of 18 and 19 year old kids. The tournament is just a massive hype machine generated by TSN to make a shit ton of ad revenue during the holiday season.

    People just lose their minds over the World Jrs, meanwhile no one gives a shit about the Ivan Hlinka when they’re basically the exact same thing minus an insane amount of advertising.

  19. Hammers says:

    Leon had better end up in Kelowna and I understand why he wasn’t sent back to P.A back in Oct.. Truth is he may have been better served playing in Europe against men . My question to the Oilers would be why didn’t you put pressure on his junior team at the beginning of the season rather than wait 40 games if they wanted Leon on a top junior team .

  20. Hammers says:

    VanOil:
    Why is Eakins scouting the Vancouver v. Detroit game for the Oilers? Is this just a nice way for him to get free tickets? https://twitter.com/botchford/status/551570661139689473

    We know Vancouver does not like to trade with the Oilers and Detroit would only likely offer us a deal that make the Oilers look foolish… oh damn I think i just answered my own question.

    Maybe it revolves around the Petry deal and they want Eakins opinion on a couple of Detroit players .Eakins new job pro scout ?

  21. Gordies Elbow says:

    Hammers,

    He was drafted out of the CHL. He never had the option under the CBA to go to europe. It was PA (which no one liked) or stay with Edmonton.

    As to the pressure comment – how?

  22. Zangetsu says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Except he was scratched for two games. He would have played way more minutes in the tourney. It would have given him a chance to find his scoring touch again before heading to a new city and team. It was a heartless move by the oilers, and a dumb one.

  23. Zangetsu says:

    Derek,

    I sort of agree with you. Other tournaments like Ivan and Spengler are hard to follow with their poor coverage. I love the WJC because it has had some of the greatest hockey moments of the last decade. Eberle(x2), the almost comeback against the russians. Its entertaining hockey, not just hype. Plus its a good place to see guys your team has drafted, and guys you could potentially draft. Ivan Hlinka, the kids are too young for most to care yet.

  24. Bank Shot says:

    Hammers:
    Leon had better end up in Kelowna and I understand why he wasn’t sent back to P.A back in Oct.. Truth is he may have been better served playing in Europe against men . My question to the Oilers would be why didn’t you put pressure on his junior team at the beginning of the season rather than wait 40 games if they wanted Leon on a top junior team .

    I’ve seen this mentioned a few times that the Oilers needed to stay away from PA. I’m not sure why really. Sure PA doesnt have a great record, but they aren’t a complete laughing stock like the Edmonton Oilers. Perhaps PA would be around .500 at this point with their best player still there.

  25. Racki says:

    Derek: I’m pretty confident if you took the most dominant World Jr team and put them in a 7 game series vs a KHL, SEL, or AHL team they’d be swept in 4 straight.

    The World Jrs are entertaining because of the high intensity of the games coupled with the sub par defensive coverage of 18 and 19 year old kids.The tournament is just a massive hype machine generated by TSN to make a shit ton of ad revenue during the holiday season.

    People just lose their minds over the World Jrs, meanwhile no one gives a shit about the Ivan Hlinka when they’re basically the exact same thing minus an insane amount of advertising.

    I’m not sure why not a lot of people are into the Ivan Hlinka tourney, as that is also a great tourney. I suspect it’s due to the younger age. But c’mon..”’m pretty confident if you took the most dominant World Jr team and put them in a 7 game series vs a KHL, SEL, or AHL team they’d be swept in 4 straight.” …. of course they would! The fact that all under 20 year olds would get pounded by pro hockey players isn’t shocking. What else… Midget kids would get beat up on by NHLers?

    I’m not saying it’s some of the best hockey because these kids are 2nd only to NHLers in skill (they’re not), I’m saying it’s great hockey because it’s a very intense tournament for the players/teams involved. I find it the best hockey to watch outside of the NHL playoffs.

    As far as those suggesting that the World Jrs. is a cash cow for TSN, Hockey Canada, and whomever else, do you guys think the NHL, KHL, AHL,etc. are not for profit leagues? The playoffs are commercial free? No advertisements on the boards?

    This is a little bit crazy talk to me. I guess some aren’t into the tourney. I’m pretty fully into it, but not because TSN pumps it up. I think it’s an exciting tourney. As Zangetsu mentioned, seeing Eberle a few years back help Canada battle back to tie then beat the Russians.. that was a heck of a moment. I found that more exhilarating to watch.. part of that is due to the players being amateurs that aren’t yet tainted by the NHL lifestyle. You guys want to talk about money.. you’re making this about the sponsors, media, etc. (all same problems that exist in pro hockey) when for me it’s about the players.

    And yah, sure, other good tourneys out there deserve more exposure, but people have to turn on their television sets to watch it. Millions will tune in to watch the WJHCs. People love it. It’s not because they get to see the latest Coke commercials, or see Justin Timberlake do an intermission show. Ivan Hlinka isn’t all hyped up because the interest isn’t quite there as much except for from the real die-hards. I’m not really sure why, other than it being a younger group. If TSN, et al could rake in huge money off the Ivan Hlinka tourney they’d do it though, of course. All these tourneys and leagues are all about the almighty dollar. I don’t think sours the WJHCs in the least. Great tourney, I watch it for the great hockey being played, and don’t really care who’s profiting from it.

  26. spoiler says:

    Zangetsu: Except he was scratched for two games. He would have played way more minutes in the tourney. It would have given him a chance to find his scoring touch again before heading to a new city and team. It was a heartless move by the oilers, and a dumb one.

    Wow, is this way over the top. Heartless? Dumb?

    As Bruce poined out, there’s every likelihood drai himself was part of the WJC decision.

    And, as LT reminds us, do you want 3 years experience or 1 years experience 3 times. Drai going back to the WJs to play on another mediocre German team with no hope for success perfectly fits the definition of the same experience three times.

    Neither Lazar nor Nuge had played in the tournament when they went.

    And healthy scratch or not, he still collects an NHL paycheque, which is certainly not heartless. And he gets to practice with the team, take vid with the team, train with the team and still get into some hockey games.

    He has never played in a Memorial Cup run before and it sounds like the Oil have been hard at work trying to give him the best opportunity for one as possible.

  27. Suntory Hanzo says:

    When I think of dominant players in the WJT, none were more clearly better than when Nuge was better than the rest of team canada.

    He was so clearly the best, and it wasn’t even close.

  28. magisterrex says:

    Good for Draisaitl. He got some good $$$ playing in the NHL, probably learned quite a bit of the things they don’t teach in Junior, knows what he needs to work on, and now goes to a lower league to show what he can do.

    If he’s slotted in to star for the Barons next year, then he can come to camp – no pressure – get everyone excited for the future, and then head off to the AHL to clean up any deficient aspects of his game.

    Let him be a call-up for a 5-10 game stint, and send him back to develop further.

    2016-2017 will be his year.

  29. Woodguy says:

    Bank Shot:
    The list of players that have been sent back halfway through their 18 year old NHL season is pretty thin.

    I can really only come up with Grigorenko,and Sbisa.You have some other cases like Niedderieiter who was saved by the lockout after playing 55 games and Turris who was sent back to the AHLafter playing his 19 year old season in the bigs but they aren’t exact matches.

    The list is very short but none of these guys came on like gangbusters in the next season or two after their first but of NHL failure. We shouldn’t expect a huge leap out of Draisaitl next year either.

    You have to hope to god that Mact has learned a lesson and Draisaitl is penciled into the lineup as the first call up as best.It’d probably be better if he spent the whole season in the AHL.

    The list is short because the rule just changed in the last CBA (2013)

    It used to be if the player hit 11 games then you’ve burned a RFA year.

    Now you can save the RFA year by sending the player back by game 40, but you still use up a ELC year.

    You’ll see a lot more of it in the next few years.

  30. Woodguy says:

    Racki,

    As far as those suggesting that the World Jrs. is a cash cow for TSN, Hockey Canada, and whomever else, do you guys think the NHL, KHL, AHL,etc. are not for profit leagues? The playoffs are commercial free? No advertisements on the boards?

    The difference is how much of that cash makes its way to the players.

    Junior hockey in Canada is like indentured servitude with a few perks.

  31. fuzzy muppet says:

    He needs to work on his skating/quickness. I’m sure his whole off-season will be devoted to it.

  32. frjohnk says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    He needs to work on his skating/quickness. I’m sure his whole off-season will be devoted to it.

    I’m pretty sure a huge chunk of the this season up to date they have been working on that.

    His skating and first step quickness are probably his worst attributes. For him to be successful he needs to be decent in those disciplines. Once he gets going, he is decent. But its those first steps.

    Most may not agree but him staying with the oilers for the first 39 games and having world class skating coaches working with him may have been the best thing for his development.

    Now he can play on a dominate junior team and maybe go to the MEM cup.

  33. supernova says:

    Woodguy:
    Racki,

    As far as those suggesting that the World Jrs. is a cash cow for TSN, Hockey Canada, and whomever else, do you guys think the NHL, KHL, AHL,etc. are not for profit leagues? The playoffs are commercial free? No advertisements on the boards?

    The difference is how much of that cash makes its way to the players.

    Junior hockey in Canada is like indentured servitude with a few perks.

    Woodguy,

    You are vastly overstating this.

    If the players want to play hockey there are many routes they can choose.

    If they wish to play CHL it is true they are poorly compensated.

    Run a poll Woodguy and asked CHL players ones that are press box icons their whole career in juniors to the ones that play four years. Ask in that poll would you do it all again? I bet their is a landslide vote for the yes.

    Should they get paid more ? Sure
    Shrink the league, get better TV money, less players in the system and a higher level of talent, charge more for tickets, etc

    The view of indentured servitude comes from a fan / business view. Likely has nothing to do with how the junior players really feel or have felt for years.

    I would agree the CHL could find many more ways to increase “perks”. This is not NCAA programs making $60 million per season of the football programs.

  34. Racki says:

    Woodguy:
    Racki,

    As far as those suggesting that the World Jrs. is a cash cow for TSN, Hockey Canada, and whomever else, do you guys think the NHL, KHL, AHL,etc. are not for profit leagues? The playoffs are commercial free? No advertisements on the boards?

    The difference is how much of that cash makes its way to the players.

    Junior hockey in Canada is like indentured servitude with a few perks.

    Yes, you won’t get argument from me that junior players should get paid more (currently 50 per day I believe) . College kids get paid nothing as well. That’s not my point though. The point is that people are skipping on watching some great hockey, or downplaying it’s relevance because of the money some outside the players make. If you want a better comparison, we can use the Olympics where athletes used to not be paid, or not be paid much (times have changed in some parts) yet people were taking in cash hand over fist.

    It’s still a very relevant, exciting tournament, the WJHC, and to ignore it or downplay it because some make money off it seems misplaced. Most people laughed Laraque off when he tried to get a CHLPA, and don’t seem to really care whether these guys make money, except for when it comes time to giving reason why they’re not watching these tourneys.

    I was love for the CHL to make at least a good minimum wage. But I watch to support the players and see what I think is the best hockey outside NHL playoffs

  35. Oilanderp says:

    fuzzy muppet,

    frjohnk,

    Draisatil won the fastest skater at the Oilers skills competition a week or two ago.

    Yeah.

  36. Schitzo says:

    Woodguy: The list is short because the rule just changed in the last CBA (2013)

    It used to be if the player hit 11 games then you’ve burned a RFA year.

    Now you can save the RFA year by sending the player back by game 40, but you still use up a ELC year.

    You’ll see a lot more of it in the next few years.

    It was definitely in the 2005 CBA as well.

  37. Derek says:

    Racki: I’m not sure why not a lot of people are into the Ivan Hlinka tourney, as that is also a great tourney. I suspect it’s due to the younger age. But c’mon..”’m pretty confident if you took the most dominant World Jr team and put them in a 7 game series vs a KHL, SEL, or AHL team they’d be swept in 4 straight.” …. of course they would! The fact that all under 20 year olds would get pounded by pro hockey players isn’t shocking. What else… Midget kids would get beat up on by NHLers?

    I’m not saying it’s some of the best hockey because these kids are 2nd only to NHLers in skill (they’re not), I’m saying it’s great hockey because it’s a very intense tournament for the players/teams involved. I find it the best hockey to watch outside of the NHL playoffs.

    As far as those suggesting that the World Jrs. is a cash cow for TSN, Hockey Canada, and whomever else, do you guys think the NHL, KHL, AHL,etc. are not for profit leagues? The playoffs are commercial free? No advertisements on the boards?

    This is a little bit crazy talk to me. I guess some aren’t into the tourney. I’m pretty fully into it, but not because TSN pumps it up. I think it’s an exciting tourney. As Zangetsu mentioned, seeing Eberle a few years back help Canada battle back to tie then beat the Russians.. that was a heck of a moment. I found that more exhilarating to watch.. part of that is due to the players being amateurs that aren’t yet tainted by the NHL lifestyle. You guys want to talk about money.. you’re making this about the sponsors, media, etc.(all same problems that exist in pro hockey) when for me it’s about the players.

    And yah, sure, other good tourneys out there deserve more exposure, but people have to turn on their television sets to watch it. Millions will tune in to watch the WJHCs. People love it. It’s not because they get to see the latest Coke commercials, or see Justin Timberlake do an intermission show. Ivan Hlinka isn’t all hyped up because the interest isn’t quite there as much except for from the real die-hards. I’m not really sure why, other than it being a younger group. If TSN, et al could rake in huge money off the Ivan Hlinka tourney they’d do it though, of course. All these tourneys and leagues are all about the almighty dollar. I don’t think sours the WJHCs in the least. Great tourney, I watch it for the great hockey being played, and don’t really care who’s profiting from it.

    I have zero problems with the U20 tournament and find it very entertaining as well. I thought that you were insinuating that the level of hockey there is much greater than it actually is as some people do. These same people often insist that this small tournament with very relaxed defensive structure and little familiarity between teammates is some amazing development tool for prospects.

    My main point was that the Draisaitl situation is an opportunity for plenty of people in Edmonton and around the league to point at the Oilers and laugh as if they someone ruined Leon by not sending him to a kids tournament to develop, when in the long run its not going to make any difference at all.

  38. Racki says:

    Derek: I have zero problems with the U20 tournament and find it very entertaining as well.I thought that you were insinuating that the level of hockey there is much greater than it actually is as some people do.These same people often insist that this small tournament with very relaxed defensive structure and little familiarity between teammates is some amazing development tool for prospects.

    My main point was that the Draisaitl situation is an opportunity for plenty of people in Edmonton and around the league to point at the Oilers and laugh as if they someone ruined Leon by not sending him to a kids tournament to develop, when in the long run its not going to make any difference at all.

    Yah I think we’re in agreement on that. I took more exception with people that were knocking the tournament altogether because people make money off of it.. as if we should stop watching an exciting tournament because of that (when every other tournament/league at this level and beyond makes money) *. But I’d agree that I don’t think it’s a big deal Draisaitl wasn’t sent to it at all. I don’t think there is much to be gained from it either.

    * – that and I thought the angst was misplaced. It’s warranted to be upset that the kids aren’t making money off this, but I don’t think that justifies showing support by watching, cheering them on, etc. To me this is the big tourney before these kids jump to the next step of making megabucks (for those lucky) and they play their hearts out for a lot more than a paycheque.

  39. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Zangetsu:
    Bruce McCurdy,

    Except he was scratched for two games. He would have played way more minutes in the tourney. It would have given him a chance to find his scoring touch again before heading to a new city and team. It was a heartless move by the oilers, and a dumb one.

    Heartless? Here kid, take this $100,000 from us instead of playing for nothing for your national team! Those bastards!

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