With no games to play, there are going to be rumblings about the Oilers at the deadline. Edmonton is connected to Robin Lehner and most of the team’s defense is connected to Montreal this morning and that won’t change as we get closer to the deadline. These days off are a fun time to speculate and you can begin your morning reads here and here. One fun item: Bob Green had a lot of success with Curtis Lazar and if the Oilers like Robin Lehner, what about that as a package for one of the young guns? Just speculating, but fun to do and the Hall item has been out there for a little while. We wait.
Back in 2009, the Edmonton Oilers were still trying to turn north and the Detroit Red Wings were at the end of their third Golden Age (1936-43; 1950-1955 and 1997-2009) with Stanley. Since 2009, the two teams have added some really nice players.
DETROIT RED WINGS SINCE 2009
- Tomas Tatar 147gp, 45-36-81
- Tomas Jurco 73gp, 10-17-27
- Peter Mrzaek 25gp, 2.17 .918
- Xavier Ouellet 23gp, 2-1-3
- Andrej Nestrasil 22gp, 1-4-5
- Landon Ferraro 4gp, 0-0-0
- Adam Almquist 2gp, 1-0-1
- Mitch Callahan 1gp, 0-0-0
- Ryan Sproul 1gp, 0-0-0
- Alexey Marchenko 1gp, 0-0-0
None since 2011, but that’s Detroit Red Wing development. Their first pick in 2012 (Martin Frk) is struggling and their 2013 first rounder Anthony Mantha has only six AHL goals in 26 games. No one is worried because it’s Detroit, they know what they’re doing. Ken Holland is off to the minors for the rest of the week to look at Landon Ferraro, and that link has some dynamite quotes (it’s like he’s pumping before dumping).
Ken Holland and the Red Wings spent years and years building and making few rental moves.
- Holland: “I’m not doing any more rentals, because Detroit’s system is about getting players from Europe, college and junior into minor pro and then you’ve got to get them into the NHL. If I acquire rental players I don’t have enough picks—like when we went to the draft in 1999 in Boston with no first pick, no second pick, no third pick and no fourth pick.” Source: Behind the Moves
When they exited the third “Golden Era” Detroit started to add via deadline style trades. Kyle Quincey came back that way in Feb ’12, the team dealt Calle Jarnkrok, Patrick Eaves and a third-round pick for David Legwand last in March a year ago. Jeff Petry could absolutely arrive in a similar fashion but there may be other targets for Detroit.
- Ken Campbell: I’m told the asking price from the Sabres for Myers is prospect Dylan Larkin, a roster player along the lines of a Riley Sheahan or Tomas Jurco and a first-round pick. That seems like an awful lot for an underachieving player who still has five years on his deal with a cap hit of $5.5 million per season. Source
Who knows if that’s the price but Larkin and Sheahan are very good young players; added to a first-round pick that seems a tad high for Myers.
WHAT ABOUT PETRY?
Here’s what I wrote 10 days ago:
- Jeff Petry: A third-round pick. Petry is a younger blue but the team trading for him has no guarantee he’ll sign. Strictly as a rental, I think he gets a third-round selection in a deep draft, the pick landing somewhere between No. 75 and No. 90. Source
The Red Wings second-round pick is currently No. 56, that’s my guess. I also like Andreas Athanasiou, Tomas Jurco, Ryan Sproul and Teemu Pulkkinen. Matty says Sproul, I’d be fine with that—well not really, but he’s a prospect with potential. The Edmonton Oilers can’t win this deadline, not if they’re dealing Petry as a rental.
EDMONTON OILERS SINCE 2009
- Taylor Hall 287gp, 103-151-254
- Magnus Paajarvi 228gp, 32-39-71
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 227gp, 53-108-161
- Nail Yakupov 158gp, 33-34-47
- Anton Lander 104gp, 2-10-12
- Martin Marincin 56gp, 0-7-7
- Oscar Klefbom 42gp, 1-5-6
- Leon Draisaitl 37gp, 2-7-9
- Tobias Rieder 36gp, 6-6-12
- Tyler Pitlick 24gp, 2-0-2
- Brandon Davidson 4gp, 0-0-0
- Darnell Nurse 2gp, 0-0-0
- Bogdan Yakimov 1gp, 0-0-0
Looking at the 2009+ Oilers, there’s plenty to like there. The three centers of note (Nuge, Leon, Lander) could all spend several years as productive Oilers and the defensemen here (Nurse, Klefbom, Marincin) offer terrific hope too. What’s missing? Goalies of course, and beyond Hall and Yakupov, wingers. That’s not a massive concern as they are more readily available, but it does give one pause when it comes to the summer draft and young wingers Mitch Marner and Lawson Crouse.
OILERS PROJECTED 50-MAN LIST FOR 2015-16 (48)
A great discussion last night/this morning about which players to sign and how that might impact next year’s 50 man list. Players in bold are projected additions or RFA/UFA that I’m suggesting Edmonton retains.
- Goalies (4): ANTTI NIEMI, Ben Scrivens, Laurent Brossoit, MATT O’CONNOR
- Defensemen (16): JOHNNY BOYCHUK, Mark Fayne, Andrew Ference, Niki Nikitin, JUSTIN SCHULTZ, Oscar Klefbom, Darnell Nurse, Martin Marincin, BRAD HUNT, BRANDON DAVIDSON, Jordan Oesterle, Dillon Simpson, David Musil, Martin Gernat, Ben Betker, Joey Laleggia.
- Center (10): Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, DEREK ROY, Leon Draisaitl, Boyd Gordon, ANTON LANDER, Bogdan Yakimov, Jujhar Khaira, Travis Ewanyk, Greg Chase, Marco Roy, Kyle Platzer.
- Left Wing (8): Taylor Hall, Benoit Pouliot, Matt Hendricks, Luke Gazdic, CURTIS HAMILTON, Kale Kessy, Mitchell Moroz, Anton Slepyshev
- Right Wing (9): Jordan Eberle, Teddy Purcell, Nail Yakupov, ROB KLINKHAMMER, TYLER PITLICK, Iiro Pakarinen, Andrew Miller, Josh Winquist, Jackson Houck.
This assumes the Oilers don’t bring their top draft pick to the NHL and also assumes they sign all of their CHL kids, plus Laleggia, Slepyshev and Winquist. I’ve added UFA’s Niemi, Boychuk, Roy and Klinkhammer plus retained Pitlick. Obviously not what they’ll do, but it does tell us Edmonton can get under 50 without losing something extremely valuable.
LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE
Short show this morning, TSN1260 at 10. Oil Kings game at 11:15, so we have less time to get everything in.
- Dennis King. We’ll talk Oilers at the deadline and NFL.
- Dave Jamieson, TSN1260. CFL offseason, coach of the year and free agency.
- Corey Graham, TSN1260’s Oil Kings pbp. We’ll preview this morning’s game.
10-1260 text, @Lowetide_ on twitter.