ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST

If you’re Craig MacTavish the next twelve months gotta hum. I mean HUM! Stockpiling draft picks at the deadline is a loser’s bet unless there’s a chance to cash them for real 2015-16 NHL talent. As we approach the deadline, the Oilers can in fact add such talent, in a few ways.

SIGN JEFF PETRY!

There’s still time! I know it’ll be $5 million a year but this team can ill afford to lose a guy they drafted and suffered with during his learning years. It’s beyond the pale to even think about losing him for a draft pick and if they do bring in a prospect he better be a good one. If there’s one thing MacT could do in order to regain some of the confidence of the fan base, this is it. Does it get done? Well, it’s late in the day but they got Hemsky done very late once upon a time.

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FIND THE AHL KIDS WHO CAN PLAY!

Martin Marincin was (apparently) wobbly today (I did not see the game) and that may mean there’s an opening for Brandon Davidson. My guess is that Davidson is a depth guy and Marincin has a much brighter future but this may be the time to have a look. If the Barons’ reports suggest that Jordan Oesterle or Dillon Simpson or David Musil or Martin Gernat are playing well, bring them up. I still think the Oilers unnecessarily screwed up Marincin but shoulders straight and onward march.

Same goes for the forward group. If Ryan Hamilton and Matt Fraser aren’t the answer, recall Curtis Hamilton or Bogdan Yakimov. Losing games isn’t death for this organization but wasting these audition at-bats on men who are absolutely not part of the future is silly.

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TRADE FOR A LEAF!

If they’re tearing it down then the Oilers owe it to their fans and future to call Toronto and ask after Kadri, JVR, Kessel, Bernier, Phaneuf and others. I see no reason to exclude any of these players, although the return would vary. If Toronto is willing to blow it up, give them a fuse! If Phaneuf comes at a good price? Giddyup.

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94 Responses to "ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST"

  1. Pouzar says:

    I would keep Yakimov down. He’s a future 4th line Center and maybe a 3. Let him “over ripen” on the farm.

    I like a lot of what Ryan Hamilton has brought to the table. He is uses his size a little more effectively than Fraser and has been more noticeable overall imo. There is only room for 1 of Fraser/R Hamilton but I still would like to see C Hamilton get a shot as well.

    No Marincin hasn’t looked great. Good but not great. But he is far from the issue on defense. Get rid of the dead weight and let MM find his A game again.

  2. Lowetide says:

    Tab Bamford ‏@The1Tab 4m4 minutes ago

    Scouts at @okcbarons at @goicehogs representing Preds, Flames, Sharks, Blues & Caps #Blackhawks # Oilers

  3. KozyMel says:

    If they passed on Kane, they should pass on Phaneuf – there’s a reason Calgary dumped him on Toronto!

    Leave the kids rolling in the glorious success the OKC Barons are having – they have to learn to win someplace, and it’s not Edmonton.

  4. Lowetide says:

    Barons Gameday ‏@BaronsGameDay 42s42 seconds ago

    Defensive pairings: Hunt-Davidson; Oesterle-Musil; Simpson-Gernat #OKCBarons

    Barons Gameday @BaronsGameDay · 1m 1 minute ago

    #OKCBarons lines (LW-C-RW): C. Hamilton-Williams-Pinizzotto; Winquist-Yakimov-Miller; Moroz-Khaira-Ewanyk; K. Jones-C. Jones-Schaber

  5. rickithebear says:

    18+ shift games:

    Lander (23) 6’0″ 187lb
    11gm 3G 6A -1 .92

    Kadri (24) 6’0″ 180lb
    Carlyle
    30GM 11G 13A +8 .80 PPG

    Harachek
    16GM 3G 3A -10 .375 PPG

    wonder what the others tell us.

  6. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide:
    Tab Bamford ‏@The1Tab 4m4 minutes ago

    Scouts at @okcbarons at @goicehogs representing Preds, Flames, Sharks, Blues & Caps #Blackhawks # Oilers

    Predators, Blues, Capitals and Blackhawks are all going to the playoffs.

    Sharks and Flames stand out there.

    So who are they looking at? Chicago or Edmonton?

    Of all the teams cited only the Oilers are clearly out of the playoffs. The majority of the others are vying for position and perhaps facing a future round against one another.

    I’ve thought about Petry to the Flames http://flamesnation.ca/2015/2/11/jeff-petry-and-the-calgary-flames but this seems odd to me.

    Certainly players like Yakimov and Khaira would appeal to a “Burke” style of hockey, but I don’t see the Oilers parting with either.

  7. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide: Barons Gameday ‏@BaronsGameDay 42s42 seconds ago
    Defensive pairings: Chaos-Order; Chaos-Order; Order-Chaos #OKCBarons

    How I read it.

  8. Lowetide says:

    RexLibris: How I read it.

    Yep.

  9. Ca$h-Money! says:

    Pouzar,

    Agree on keeping him down. Disagree on his upside, he might be better than that.

  10. Pouzar says:

    I like Hanifin and the Russian Provorov but a Strome/Roy draft would be intriguing.

  11. Eastern Oil says:

    I actually didn’t think that MM played all that bad today relative to everyone else. On the 5th goal he looked to pin the guy and take his lane to the front of the net away late but otherwise wasn’t that bad. It was not a great game by any of the Oilers to be honest.

    I agree with bringing guys up to take a look at them but if MM getting sent down due to mistakes like that, at this point in the season, would be hypocrisy in its finest. We have seen Schultz, Ference, NN do much worse, and, would an even more inexperienced Dman be an upgrade at this point?

    Not suggesting that you were saying this LT, just thinking out loud. Giving Nelson more time with MM is more important than seeing Osterle, especially since Petry is leaving.

  12. Woodguy says:

    It behooves MacT to clear out the dead salary (all his decisions btw)

    This summer is shaping up to be 2nd only to the summer of 05 after that lockout in terms of big player movement to get under the cap.

    They managed to grab Pronger then.

    Slim chance they get that lucky again, but some decent players will be available for futures and EDM has a lot of futures.

  13. coolwasabi says:

    I don’t have much faith in MacT anymore:
    – The David Clarkson pursuit
    – Firing Krueger
    – Hiring Eakins
    – Keeping Eakins for a second season
    – Nikita Nikitin (this is almost Cam Barker bad. Really)
    – Keeping Leon Draisaitl in the NHL when everyone, including Leon Draisaitl, knew it wasn’t the right decision
    – Giving the keys of the Porsche to Justin Schultz, again and again and again
    – Giving the keys to the Toyota Yaris to Jeff Petry
    – An unproven Dubnyk didn’t emerge as an Oiler… so maybe an unproven Scrivens will! Or perhaps an unproven Fasth!

    Sigh. And I really like MacT too.

  14. sliderule says:

    Marincin didn’t play that bad considering the whole team stunk after Fasth let in a couple of softies.

    Klefbom made more mistakes than Marty.

    This team is still fragile and let’s face it except for a few not that motivated .

    The afternoon game doesn’t help for a team from west with the time zone differences.

    When was the last the oilers won an afternoon game in east.?

  15. cabbiesmacker says:

    Ca$h-Money!:
    Pouzar,

    Agree on keeping him down.Disagree on his upside, he might be better than that.

    Better than a 3C. Highly unlikely unless you’re not looking for offence up the order. If he can become a 3 then consider it mission accomplished.

  16. Woodguy says:

    Matty says Petry is gone.

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/touch/story.html?id=10815420&cid=dlvr.it-twitter-ej_oilers

    Money paragraph:

    “We have had no contract negotiations with the Oilers and we’ve expressed that to Jeff,” said his agent Wade Arnott, who also represents Oilers defenceman Justin Schultz. “We expect Jeff will be dealt by the deadline.”

    Assholes.

    Best Dman by a country mile and they don’t even offer him a contract?

    Fuck these guys.

    They are not fit to run a NHL team.

    Not even close.

  17. leadfarmer says:

    coolwasabi,

    Cam Barker was a 25 year old who was signed for a 1 year 2.25 mil contract, Nikitin was signed for 2 years and a 9 million dollar contract. It’s not Cam Barker bad, its actually worse.

  18. VanOil says:

    Woodguy: Fuck these guys.
    They are not fit to run a NHL team.

    Seconded

  19. Ca$h-Money! says:

    cabbiesmacker,

    We don’t know at this point. Some of his offence at other levels was pretty darn good for his age, and he was a killer in pre season. AHL is starting to come.

    Not saying he will be a stud, I’m saying he’s really difficult to project right now.

  20. leadfarmer says:

    They better not draft a winger in this draft.. If you have a center, a winger, a defenseman, and a goalie neck and neck in a lottery spot you better take the center first. The least likely to bust of all the positions, hard to trade for or find in the free agent market, and very important in all 3 zones. Then you look at the defenseman because they are a little riskier, although just as important in all 3 zones. Also, very hard to trade for. You can also play them 20-50% more than the forwards and you want to keep your best players on the ice. Next you better look at those two again and figure out why you are passing on them. Then, take the winger, they are worth less that a comparable center or defenseman and almost as likely to bust as a defenseman. You can find them in the trade market with much more ease and much lower cost than a center or defenseman. If you have too many centers you can always move one to the wing for a while. If you don’t like the center, the defenseman, or the winger; next you trade the pick.
    And if that fails you take the goalie.

  21. fifthcartel says:

    Woodguy,

    Just awful. They have no clue how to evaluate talent.

  22. Dicky94 says:

    Woodguy,

    Starting to feel the same way. How can they even believe they will be any better next year with Ferrence, NN and Shultz on D. Even a Seabrook or Boychuck will not make them any better. Really hope MacT was bluffing when he was talking about them being here next year. Not even making an offer to Petry is mind blowing! The heat is now on you MacT.

  23. verdad2.0 says:

    Why do you insist that MacTavish has any right to make any ot these decisions?
    He is an incompetent.
    I repeat he should be fired tomrorrow avoid any more damage to this franchise.
    Bob Green in the interim would do less harm than MacTavish will do

    He can only trade for useless futures, useless defensemen, 4th liners, and spritually destructive coaching.

    Why flatter him by suggesting that he has decisions to make?

  24. Lowetide says:

    verdad2.0:
    Why flatter him by suggesting that he has decisions to make?

    He is the GM. You can pretend he isn’t, but that isn’t reality.

  25. verdad2.0 says:

    Lowetide: He is the GM. You can pretend he isn’t, but that isn’t reality.

    What would be more constructive is if the entire OIlers blogosphere and fan base rose up collectively and demanded his firing asap.
    At the very least, that would raise the ante within the Oilers “politburo”.
    Just ask yourself the stituation we are in with having Shultz, Ferenece and Nikitin on the team next year is entirely his fault. Not even that can be pinned on Lowe.
    And just enrage us all he traded Perron for functionally nothing.
    Just like Lawrence said to the Arabs in Lawrence of Arabia “nothing is written”, Oilers fans don’t need to settle fo the sad reality of who is thier current GM.

  26. Lowetide says:

    verdad2.0: What would be more constructive is if the entire OIlers blogosphere and fan base rose up collectively and demanded his firing asap.
    At the very least, that would raise the ante within the Oilers “politburo”.
    Just ask yourself the stituation we are in with having Shultz, Ferenece and Nikitin on the team next year is entirely his fault. Not even that can be pinned on Lowe.
    And just enrage us all he traded Perron for functionally nothing.
    Just like Lawrence said to the Arabs in Lawrence of Arabia “nothing is written”, Oilers fans don’t need to settle fo the sad reality ofwho is thier current GM.

    some of us have already called for it.

    https://lowetide.ca/2015/01/05/how-green-was-my-valley/

    I don’t see the blogs overthrowing Kingsway.

  27. VanOil says:

    Lowetide: I don’t see the blogs overthrowing Kingsway.

    Al-Saud level job security

  28. leadfarmer says:

    With games against the Jets, Bruins, Ducks, and Wild *2 in their next 5 I wonder which team shows up. The terrible one that played today and against Toronto or the team that played the Islanders. Only teams they have a chance at catching is the Coyotes, Leafs, and the Canes and with our tough defensive pairing soon to become Fayne and Ference I dont see us catching anyone. When Petry leaves things will get really ugly really quick.

    I still can’t believe they haven’t had any contract discussions with him, unless Petry said FU and I’m out off here. Doesn’t make any sense for MacT to not even sit down and have at least some discussion with him otherwise.

  29. Jon K says:

    Woodguy:
    Matty says Petry is gone.

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/touch/story.html?id=10815420&cid=dlvr.it-twitter-ej_oilers

    Money paragraph:

    “We have had no contract negotiations with the Oilers and we’ve expressed that to Jeff,” said his agent Wade Arnott, who also represents Oilers defenceman Justin Schultz. “We expect Jeff will be dealt by the deadline.”

    Assholes.

    Best Dman by a country mile and they don’t even offer him a contract?

    Fuck these guys.

    They are not fit to run a NHL team.

    Not even close.

    Disgraceful. Also, they still haven’t taken down their Christmas decorations on Kingsway. It’s Valentine’s FFS. You boobs.

  30. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Kelowna Rockets ‏@Kelowna_Rockets 50s50 seconds ago
    Just two minutes into the first period Leon Draisaitl finds the back of the net, assists to Kirkland and Stadel. #KeepThemComing #Rockets

  31. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    Lowetide: some of us have already called for it.

    Yeah, but did you call Daryl? Thought so…

  32. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    We were saying about LD struggling?

    Kelowna Rockets ‏@Kelowna_Rockets 1m1 minute ago
    Rockets second goal of the night on the power play, second goal of the night from Draisaitl, assists to Dube and Baillie. #KeepThemComing

    Kelowna Rockets ‏@Kelowna_Rockets 28s29 seconds ago
    What a play! Third Goal of the night, 14th goal of the season from Bowey assists to Baillie and Draisaitl. 3-0 here at Prospera Place

    3 points and counting.

  33. oliveoilers says:

    verdad2.0: What would be more constructive is if the entire OIlers blogosphere and fan base rose up collectively and demanded his firing asap.
    At the very least, that would raise the ante within the Oilers “politburo”.
    Just ask yourself the stituation we are in with having Shultz, Ferenece and Nikitin on the team next year is entirely his fault. Not even that can be pinned on Lowe.
    And just enrage us all he traded Perron for functionally nothing.
    Just like Lawrence said to the Arabs in Lawrence of Arabia “nothing is written”, Oilers fans don’t need to settle fo the sad reality ofwho is thier current GM.

    OK, so here goes:

    WG has already (correctly) pointed out that MacT is nothing if not honest in his dealings. Could he, should he, play his cards closer to his chest? Yes, of course. So I believe MacT when he says there will only be two or three changes to the roster in the summer. I do not believe this to be an attempt at deception.

    The changes though, I think will be significant. The way I see it, this summer is where MacT has to save his job. If he goes into next year with a recognisably weak roster with glaring holes again, and has the same start, I don’t think he or his coach survives past Christmas.

    When I say the changes will be significant, they may not necessarily be what the fans want. It’ll probably be a goalie, a 1/2D and a good veteran. And don’t be surprised if Pouliot is shipped out to facilitate this. MacT will likely believe Klef to be a shoe-in for next year with expectations that Nurse will follow in his footsteps. A classic MacT gambit of working to ‘how awesome will I look if all my gambles pay off’, not ‘what is the contingency if this doesn’t work out’. Also expect Drai here, with this years draft in junior as his solution to C.

    As LT says: If TO are selling, why not have the buffet? Bernier & Phaneuf?

    With the Petry situation, I think EDM may already have a verbal agreement on something. Surely MacT cannot be so monumentally stupid as to let Petry walk without so much as an offer or ‘how much do you want?’ Either that, or someone is lying about the situation. For Petry’s agant to publicly state that no approach has been made is very strange.

  34. Dark Asia says:

    LT – the team has been through 3 GMs in the past half dozen years – but strangely – the decision-making seems to never change. Lowe moved upstairs to insulate himself from criticism – not to take himself out of any major decisions with respect to personal. He stated that specifically with his desire to mimic the Detroit team-based decision-making style. Lowe’s hand is in every major (and many minor) player decisions. The team continues to reward useless “good soldiers” which is another way of saying guys who lick Lowe’s boots – and punish anyone with a shred of individuality or expectations of accountability from management.

    That is the Oiler’s style and that is why they will never win with this mgmt team and no serious free agent will ever sign in EDM.

  35. oliveoilers says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    We were saying about LD struggling?

    Kelowna Rockets ‏@Kelowna_Rockets1m1 minute ago
    Rockets second goal of the night on the power play, second goal of the night from Draisaitl, assists to Dube and Baillie. #KeepThemComing

    Kelowna Rockets ‏@Kelowna_Rockets28s29 seconds ago
    What a play! Third Goal of the night, 14th goal of the season from Bowey assists to Baillie and Draisaitl. 3-0 here at Prospera Place

    3 points and counting.

    But what about Drai’s drop off in offense after only a few games in a new city with a new team and new coach, with new systems to learn and with concentrating on what the Oilers want him to improve on?

    Oh……Never mind, carry on. Nothing to see here.

  36. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    oliveoilers: With the Petry situation, I think EDM may already have a verbal agreement on something. Surely MacT cannot be so monumentally stupid as to let Petry walk without so much as an offer or ‘how much do you want?’ Either that, or someone is lying about the situation. For Petry’s agant to publicly state that no approach has been made is very strange.

    FWIW the Matty article today simply repeated what we’ve heard elsewhere through the year. No contact. No attempt to get negotiations going.

    THis is a decision that was made last year sometime… and we know the Oilers are stubborn when they make a decision.

  37. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Dark Asia:
    LT – the team has been through 3 GMs in the past half dozen years – but strangely – the decision-making seems to never change. Lowe moved upstairs to insulate himself from criticism – not to take himself out of any major decisions with respect to personal. He stated that specifically with his desire to mimic the Detroit team-based decision-making style. Lowe’s hand is in every major (and many minor) player decisions. The team continues to reward useless “good soldiers” which is another way of saying guys who lick Lowe’s boots – and punish anyone with a shred of individuality or expectations of accountability from management.

    That is the Oiler’s style and that is why they will never win with the mgmt team and no serious free agent will ever sign in EDM.

    I think the consistency across 3 GMs is a pretty high level of poor management.

    But, I also think it is folly to fail to recognize the ways in which each GM has been poor in their own unique way.

  38. verdad2.0 says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: FWIW the Matty article today simply repeated what we’ve heard elsewhere through the year. No contact. No attempt to get negotiations going.

    THis is a decision that was made last year sometime… and we know the Oilers are stubborn when they make a decision.

    That alone should justify MacT and Lowe being fired.
    At some point, as brutal as it may be, fans must boyott Rexall until the idiots are gone.
    The loss of Petry for nothing is the last straw of incompetence.

  39. verdad2.0 says:

    In fact, use that tomorrow for your blog title theme, the “last straw of incompetence”, the Petry loss, the Lowe-MacTavish years of strategic failure.

  40. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    verdad2.0: That alone should justify MacT and Lowe being fired.
    At some point, as brutal as it may be, fans must boyott Rexall until the idiots are gone.
    The loss of Petry for nothing is the last straw of incompetence.

    justify to whom?

    they aren’t going anywhere.

  41. oliveoilers says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: FWIW the Matty article today simply repeated what we’ve heard elsewhere through the year. No contact. No attempt to get negotiations going.

    THis is a decision that was made last year sometime… and we know the Oilers are stubborn when they make a decision.

    Aye, I’ve been following it, but not to even low-ball him? Even an insultingly low offer is an offer!

    Boy, Samuel Johnson would not have needed to bother with a definition of ‘Stubborn’ if the Oilers management had existed in his day.

  42. Dark Asia says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: I think the consistency across 3 GMs is a pretty high level of poor management.

    But, I also think it is folly to fail to recognize the ways in which each GM has been poor in their own unique way.

    Actually think MacT may have been a good hire as an assistant GM in a good org – albeit green as grass – but he’s doomed as GM in the nepotistic, fail-bomb that is the Oilers under Mr 6 Rings.

  43. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Dark Asia: Actually think MacT may have been a good hire as an assistant GM in a good org – albeit green as grass –but he’s doomed as GM in the nepotistic, fail-bomb that is the Oilers under Mr 6 Rings.

    Giving him the job right away, without any real experience, without having to compete for the job… man.

  44. Lowetide says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: Giving him the job right away, without any real experience, without having to compete for the job… man.

    I think he would have been wise to follow the Yzerman template.

  45. frjohnk says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: FWIW the Matty article today simply repeated what we’ve heard elsewhere through the year. No contact. No attempt to get negotiations going.

    THis is a decision that was made last year sometime… and we know the Oilers are stubborn when they make a decision.

    Yup.

    I think they have their eyes set on Boychuk.

    And I’m pretty sure that Boychuk wants to see what the Oilers will offer.

    Why not go after both?
    Petry now,
    Boychuk in the summer.

  46. sliderule says:

    If Petry is gone you can lay it at the door of the puppet master.

    It’s funny when the master was playing I always thought he was scared shitless.When he talked the other day about going into Nassau coliseum in the playoffs he more or less admitted same.

    When he sees a player not showing his particular view of aggression sooner or later he will be gone.Gilbert, Cogliano ,a concussion recovering Stoll ,Brodziak and Poti will be followed by Petry and shortly after Marincin.

    As for the bull crap forensic audit the master will be in control of the that and you can expect a few firings but no real change were it counts.

  47. Ice Sage says:

    oliveoilers: Aye, I’ve been following it, but not to even low-ball him?Even an insultingly low offer is an offer!

    Boy, Samuel Johnson would not have needed to bother with a definition of ‘Stubborn’ if the Oilers management had existed in his day.

    I see an element of brinksmanship here, as well as a keen understanding that the rumour mill runs at warp speed in this market. I’d not be surprised to hear that there’s a 4 year, 21 million contract with Petry’s name on it in a safe within a safe at the Kingsway office… why play your hand early, if you’re MacT? See what’s on offer at the deadline and make a move then?

    BTW, have we heard anything from Petry along the lines of “this is a great hockey town and they gave me my start in the league and I’d love to stay”? Didn’t think so.

    His agent is shaking our tree, folks – trying to build some pressure to have his client offered the ‘Oiler hinterland premium’ or moved to a place where he can add ‘Stanley Cup playoff player’ to his resume… can’t blame him, either way, it’s worth sizeable money to both of them.

  48. unca miltie says:

    A long time ago, LT said one of Cody Wild, Taylor Chorney and Jeff Petry would make it. Well, here we are and Petry should be a $5,000,000 per year d-man in the NHL. I do not think the Oilers have ever paid him what he is worth. My hope is that they are waiting for the last minute to negotiate another undervalue contract like they did with Hemmer. Obviously Marty does not think that will happen. .and neither do I but I have hope.

  49. hoser313 says:

    Marincin had a puck retrieval issue in the game today, and the kid really needs to figure this out. He had similar issues earlier in the season. Then he got sent down.

    Why would Petry stay? The organization has treated him horribly to my mind ever since Datsyuk beat him one-on-one two years ago and that play was all over the TSN highlights. Ference gets a C? Fayne gets an A? Seriously?

  50. Lowetide says:

    Leon Draisaitl 2+1=3 tonight, finding the range.

  51. Lowetide says:

    unca miltie:
    A long time ago, LT said one of Cody Wild, Taylor Chorney and Jeff Petry would make it.Well, here we are and Petry should be a $5,000,000 per year d-man in the NHL. I do not think the Oilers have ever paid him what he is worth.My hope is that they are waiting for the last minute to negotiate another undervalue contract like they did with Hemmer. Obviously Marty does not think that will happen. .and neither do I but I have hope.

    I think there’s a chance that’s exactly what’s happening, a last minute attempt to sign him. The Oilers need to be making these moves proactively, not as a reaction.

  52. Woodguy says:

    oliveoilers,

    With the Petry situation, I think EDM may already have a verbal agreement on something. Surely MacT cannot be so monumentally stupid as to let Petry walk without so much as an offer or ‘how much do you want?’

    That’t the options:

    1) Monumental inability to assess Dman talent (Nikitin & Ferernce contracts are testament to this)

    2) Has something in his pocket. I fear its a Phaneuf trade.

    Not that I think Phanuef is that bad. Tyler had a pretty reasonable defence that Carlye used him incorrectly.

    The issue it that Carlyle’s incorrect use was tough minutes and hard zone starts with meh help. Phanuf was an elite scoring Dman at secondary toughs, easier zone starts and lots of PP time.

    The Oilers would want Phaneuf to play tough minutes and hard zone starts with meh help because that’s the job Petry does now.

    I really hope its Boychuck.

  53. Woodguy says:

    verdad2.0:
    In fact, use that tomorrow for your blog title theme, the “last straw of incompetence”, the Petry loss, the Lowe-MacTavish years of strategic failure.

    I think you have to:

    1) Wait for Petry to be traded

    2) See what MacT replaces him with.

    Doesn’t look good from here though.

  54. Woodguy says:

    Ice Sage: I see an element of brinksmanship here, as well as a keen understanding that the rumour mill runs at warp speed in this market.I’d not be surprised to hear that there’s a 4 year, 21 million contract with Petry’s name on it in a safe within a safe at the Kingsway office… why play your hand early, if you’re MacT?See what’s on offer at the deadline and make a move then?

    BTW, have we heard anything from Petry along the lines of “this is a great hockey town and they gave me my start in the league and I’d love to stay”?Didn’t think so.

    His agent is shaking our tree, folks – trying to build some pressure to have his client offered the ‘Oiler hinterland premium’ or moved to a place where he can add ‘Stanley Cup playoff player’ to his resume… can’t blame him, either way, it’s worth sizeable money to both of them.

    Oilers do have a long history of negotiating at the last hour.

    In one of the Oil Change episodes Lowe said he preferred that method as things got done quickly.

  55. unca miltie says:

    Woodguy: Oilers do have a long history of negotiating at the last hour.

    In one of the Oil Change episodes Lowe said he preferred that method as things got done quickly.

    Or they don’t and Ryan Smith goes to the island

  56. Woodguy says:

    OT:

    The more I think about the Kane trade, the more I like it from BUF’s side. I initially thought WIN won it by a nose and more if Myers flourishes in easier minutes and the Dman whisperer Chuckles Huddy there to show him what he needs to know.

    Now I’ve changed a bit.

    Bogsian – Myers: Probably close. Myers could be better and win that part of it.

    Kane for :

    1) Stafford – good fill in for the rest of the year, FA
    2) Armia – I like him (have owned him in a keep pool for years) but he is Pilickian in his injury history. Big Finn who can score some, but he’s not in the NHL yet
    3) Lemiuex – Having a good draft +1 season, but lots of his goals are on the powerplay and his age adjusted ppt is only 0.70
    4) Lowest BUF 1st

    Lots of magic beans in that pot for Kane.

    Might not be as good as what Lowe got for 23 games of Smyth.

    3 assets!!

    Kane has his issues, but if BUF can get him to mature (often time takes care of that) he’s elite.

    His scoring numbers when actually used with other offensive players are top 20 in the NHL in terms of rates.

    WIN never used him that much in that role though.

  57. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    LD 2-2-4 now

    up to 1.59 PPG on year now. 1.64 last year

  58. Tarkus says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    LD 2-2-4 now

    up to 1.59 PPG on year now. 1.64 last year

    Now we just need him to get him into a couple fights in the 3rd period for the ultra-rare Double Gordie Howe Hat-Trick.

  59. frjohnk says:

    Woodguy:
    OT:

    The more I think about the Kane trade, the more I like it from BUF’s side.I initially thought WIN won it by a nose and more if Myers flourishes in easier minutes and the Dman whisperer Chuckles Huddy there to show him what he needs to know.

    Now I’ve changed a bit.

    Bogsian – Myers:Probably close.Myers could be better and win that part of it.

    Kane for :

    1) Stafford – good fill in for the rest of the year, FA
    2) Armia – I like him (have owned him in a keep pool for years) but he is Pilickian in his injury history.Big Finn who can score some, but he’s not in the NHL yet
    3) Lemiuex – Having a good draft +1 season, but lots of his goals are on the powerplay and his age adjusted ppt is only 0.70
    4) Lowest BUF 1st

    Lots of magic beans in that pot for Kane.

    Might not be as good as what Lowe got for 23 games of Smyth.

    3 assets!!

    But he did get rid of a problem and I have read there may been a bit of an issue with Bogo. But not unlike some young nhlers who get a lot of money. With Myers they get a player more grounded.

    One other thing is that they free up some cap space for next year and along with those 3 assets they can go hunting against the ten or so teams that could be in cap hell.

    I like the trade for both teams but there are so many angles to look at it we won’t know who won for a few years.

  60. Lowetide says:

    WG: The major thing BUF has to worry over imo in that deal is that Lemieux kid. He might be something else. That and Kane not being a complete nut but I think he’ll settle in.

  61. frjohnk says:

    Lowetide:
    WG: The major thing BUF has to worry over imo in that deal is that Lemieux kid. He might be something else. That and Kane not being a complete nut but I think he’ll settle in.

    Didn’t someone say that Lemieux would not sign in Buffalo?

  62. Lowetide says:

    frjohnk: Didn’t someone say that Lemieux would not sign in Buffalo?

    Sure but that doesn’t mean they had to trade him to Winnipeg.

  63. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Romulus’ Apotheosis ‏@RomulusNotNuma 3m3 minutes ago
    Fun thought: Buffalo wins lottery last year, takes Ekblad.
    How much worse does Ekblad look with Gorges (or Myers) and without Campbell?

  64. Woodguy says:

    Check out Kane’s GFON numbers with his 4 most common C’s during his time in WIN:

    Sorted by TOI together:

    Joikenen 2.25
    Bumristrov 2.95
    Little 3.10
    Wellwood 3.10

    If you look at the last 4 years, 3.10 GFON/60 would rank him 32nd in the NHL.

    Not too shabby.

    He’s gonna get one of McJesus or Eichel to play with too.

    LT,

    Lemieux has a lot of PP goals this year from what I hear. Might be good, but is still a bean at this point.

  65. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lemieux was just drafted… I don’t buy these “won’t sign” stories… you get years to eff up that relationship, I don’t buy it was irreparably damaged in a few months.

  66. Tarkus says:

    Dr. Drai isn’t the only Oilers’ WHL prospect with a multi-point game.

    Houck 1+1, Chase with two apples.

  67. rickithebear says:

    LT:
    BUF shows up Fat to camp each year.
    Buf sucks balls in Defesive d role.
    Kane Wants to win.
    Played with Brokrn hand; Foot; and Shoulder.
    Kane makes jason smith look like a Pussy!

  68. Hammers says:

    Trade for a Leaf . The only way I take Phaneuf and his contract is if JVR or Kadri make up the package . Problem is wha’ts going the other way .Odds are nothing happens other than trading for picks or signing any of the following, Fasth , Petry , Aulie , Lander , Roy Klinkhammer & Fraser as I think all are UFA’s . McT also has , RFA’s like Marincin , Yak & Schultz to sign or trade . We have problems coming if these guys don’t get handled right .

  69. Woodguy says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Lemieux was just drafted… I don’t buy these “won’t sign” stories… you get years to eff up that relationship, I don’t buy it was irreparably damaged in a few months.

    New CBA has CHL kids needing contracts in 2 years or back in the draft no?

    So they had to sign him this summer or he’d hit the draft again in 2016.

    That was one of the reasons the Oilers took so many marginal college kids this past year. (scared of making decisions in 2 years on too many CHLers, what awful decision making) You still get 4 years with them and you now get 4 with kids drafted out of Europe.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m 75% sure I got it.

  70. rickithebear says:

    Woodguy: Lemieux has a lot of PP goals this year from what I hear. Might be good, but is still a bean at this point.

    49 gm 37G 17 A
    11 EVG 13 EVA 18 EVP NHLE
    24 PPG 3 PPA
    2 SHG 1SHA

  71. oliveoilers says:

    Woodguy:
    oliveoilers,

    With the Petry situation, I think EDM may already have a verbal agreement on something. Surely MacT cannot be so monumentally stupid as to let Petry walk without so much as an offer or ‘how much do you want?’

    That’t the options:

    1) Monumental inability to assess Dman talent (Nikitin & Ferernce contracts are testament to this)

    2) Has something in his pocket.I fear its a Phaneuf trade.

    Not that I think Phanuef is that bad.Tyler had a pretty reasonable defence that Carlye used him incorrectly.

    The issue it that Carlyle’s incorrect use was tough minutes and hard zone starts with meh help.Phanuf was an elite scoring Dman at secondary toughs, easier zone starts and lots of PP time.

    The Oilers would want Phaneuf to play tough minutes and hard zone starts with meh help because that’s the job Petry does now.

    I really hope its Boychuck.

    Option 3) Klef comes along and instead of seeing a D corps with 2 competent NHL d-men, he sees an entry level contract replacement for Petry. The money saved can be used on an aging veteran UFA/trade on the downslide from the EDM area looking for an overpay ’til retirement. Because he brings ‘intangibles’ and ‘knows how to win’.

    I often wonder if a lot of the old school thinking still exists; that measured evaluation of a player is just lip service to gut feeling. Brian Burke just gave it a voice when he said “truculence.” We call it ‘sense of entitlement’, when talking about our core. The rest of the time, it’s there, bubbling just below the surface, fucking the careers of good players like Petry.

  72. commonfan14 says:

    Woodguy: Money paragraph:
    “We have had no contract negotiations with the Oilers and we’ve expressed that to Jeff,” said his agent Wade Arnott, who also represents Oilers defenceman Justin Schultz. “We expect Jeff will be dealt by the deadline.”

    Another money paragraph that pretty much kills any 11th hour signing thoughts:

    Sources say teams have already started calling Arnott to see if Petry might want to sign with them before he goes the free-agent route July 1. If so, the Oilers could conceivably get something more than, say, a second-round draft pick or a younger defenceman in a trade.

    If true, Oilers had to grant teams permission to talk or it’s tampering. They’re not going to suddenly start negotiating with him if they’ve already given other teams the green light to do it in their place.

  73. Oddspell says:

    Woodguy:
    oliveoilers,

    With the Petry situation, I think EDM may already have a verbal agreement on something. Surely MacT cannot be so monumentally stupid as to let Petry walk without so much as an offer or ‘how much do you want?’

    That’t the options:

    1) Monumental inability to assess Dman talent (Nikitin & Ferernce contracts are testament to this)

    2) Has something in his pocket.I fear its a Phaneuf trade.

    Not that I think Phanuef is that bad.Tyler had a pretty reasonable defence that Carlye used him incorrectly.

    The issue it that Carlyle’s incorrect use was tough minutes and hard zone starts with meh help.Phanuf was an elite scoring Dman at secondary toughs, easier zone starts and lots of PP time.

    The Oilers would want Phaneuf to play tough minutes and hard zone starts with meh help because that’s the job Petry does now.

    I really hope its Boychuck.

    I have to echo the statement that I can’t believe MacT would do stupid for stupid’s sake. My guess is that the Petry situation mixed with the uncertain 1-3 new bodies statement means we’ll see him go whale hunting in the summer. Maybe the best he can do is a beluga instead of a blue whale but I think he has his eye on a couple of the bigger UFAs/trade targets. I would guess Nikitin or Purcell gets bought out/moved, Petry gets dealt for as much value as possible then we use the extra space to bring in a cap castoff or a Boychuk kind of like the Islanders last summer. There’s no way he could look at this defence and decide subtracting Petry is the best course of action.

    The alternative is too depressing.

  74. SwedishPoster says:

    Well at least Yak kept his point streak going. 4 points in four games since starting his third NHL season in actual games played. Sophomore slump eat your heart out!

    Terrible, terrible game, which was a shame since this was one of the few games that I could see live as it was played 8 PM local time over here, the games normally start between 1 AM and 4 AM, I usually get up before work to watch the replay of the game which is nice, I like long slow breakfasts and without commercials and breaks between periods the game runs much faster, but its cool to be able to watch a game live from time to time.

    The team just fell apart, very scrambly, inefficient and sloppy all over the line up. Very few moments in the game where they completed three good passes in a row, giveaways, passes into the skates or missing their target completely, players throwing away pucks at the least bit of pressure. Just awful. Fasth kept us in it in the first and decided to give it away to start the second.

    Will be interesting to see how they bounce back this time. Especially a guy like Klefbom who after a few weeks of very good play was a mess today, how he looks the next few will speak volumes. Lander as well, he wasn’t as bad as Klefbom but still will be interesting if he can find his game straight away after a bump in the road.
    Yak actually started off pretty good but as the game got out of hand he started to try too much, a sense of panic almost, I’ve always been of the mindset that a lot of his issues have been mental, lack of confidence, let’s see if he can keep trying things out there even after a bad loss, his confidence does seem pretty fragile.

    They did well bouncing back after the Toronto game, but at least in that one they created some offense, this one also felt worse since they played a couple of good games leading up to it and the sense was that they started to find some groove, to drop a turd like this is a killer. The reaction to this will be truly interesting and telling of Nelsons ability to coach his team.

    The comments from Petrys agent are odd and if true looks pretty bad on MacT, especially since he mentioned the other week that the options were to either resign him or trade him but it still wasn’t a sure thing either way. If the statement from Arnott is true MacT is either lying about them still looking to resign Petry, not understanding that to resign a player you have to actually negotiate, MacT trying to be smart and put some pressure on Petry by not negotiating and thus causing some panic in the Petry camp(taking a note from the self-proclaimed pick up artists from Neil Strauss book “The Game” that was a bit of a buzz a decade or so ago, making yourself more desirable by seeming disinterested, might work IF Petry really wants to stay, and that’s a big if) or this is all just posturing from the Petry camp to put pressure on the Oilers.

    Hard to tell though, comments in media surrounding contracts should be taken with a bucket of salt.

    As been suggested above. This could also be a case of them believing/knowing that Boychuk is a real possibility, they might even have some inside on this, he’s an Alberta boy(oh how the Oiler brass loves to mention this) and knows Ference from what I understand. Maybe MacT knows that Boychuk wants to sign with his hometown team. During the games against the Islanders the Oil commentators were pumping his tires pretty hard which knowing the Oilers could be a tell. On the other hand we’ve heard reports out of NY that he’s close to signing there, which would make sense, Isles are heading into contender territory within a few years, he’s clearly a good fit on the team, they’re moving to a new arena and New York ain’t a bad place to live. Probably wouldn’t suck to sign with them.

    Boychuk would ofc be a great addition but I’m not sure him at 31 on what I guess will be around a 6Mx6 years contract is certain to be a better move than resigning 27 year old Petry at 5M for 4-6 years.
    I think 5M for Petry might be a bit steep tbh and Boychuk is the better player, but they’re both most likely heading into different stages of their respective careers, Petry should be entering his prime years and looks to have turned his game up a notch the second half of this season. Boychuk could very well have 2-3 years left at his prime but for the second half of that contract he is fairly likely to start regressing and might turn into an anchor even with a higher cap.

    It all depends on the numbers ofc and how well Boychuk can hold up his game, to be a great NHL D at 36 sure isn’t unheard of, but Boychuk at a high price over Petry at a semi-high price isn’t a sure win. Especially since one is a bird in the hand and the other one is a bird on Long Island. On the other hand it’s not a sure loss either since Boychuk should be an upgrade short term and if he can stay relevant for the remainder of his contract while the cap goes up it’s a good bet long term.

    Ideally we get both at hometown discounts. 4Mx6 for both.

    I’m just going to do what the nice officer tells me and put down my crack pipe now. Gotta go!

  75. Woodguy says:

    rickithebear: 49 gm 37G 17 A
    11 EVG 13 EVA18 EVP NHLE
    24 PPG 3 PPA
    2 SHG 1SHA

    Thanks Ricki

  76. Woodguy says:

    commonfan14: Another money paragraph that pretty much kills any 11th hour signing thoughts:

    Sources say teams have already started calling Arnott to see if Petry might want to sign with them before he goes the free-agent route July 1. If so, the Oilers could conceivably get something more than, say, a second-round draft pick or a younger defenceman in a trade.

    If true, Oilers had to grant teams permission to talk or it’s tampering.They’re not going to suddenly start negotiating with him if they’ve already given other teams the green light to do it in their place.

    Yup.

    Thanks for pointing that out.

  77. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Woodguy:
    It behooves MacT to clear out the dead salary (all his decisions btw)

    This summer is shaping up to be 2nd only to the summer of 05 after that lockout in terms of big player movement to get under the cap.

    They managed to grab Pronger then.

    Slim chance they get that lucky again, but some decent players will be available for futures and EDM has a lot of futures.

    This! 1,000 times this. Maybe I can stop harping about it and you can take over. You have a wider following as well (note I don’t have any following so one would be greater than none! Haha).

    I don’t want to think about this Petry madness.
    Hopefully it is a smoke Screen. But it seems unlikely

  78. Henry says:

    frjohnk: Yup.

    I think they have their eyes set on Boychuk.

    And I’m pretty sure that Boychuk wants to see what the Oilers will offer.

    Why not go after both?
    Petry now,
    Boychuk in the summer.

    Boychuk would be nice but he is 3.5 years older. And they may not get him. Then they will have two right shooting d men in the entire org. MacT must love the pictures of himself with the appalled unbelieving look on his face.

  79. spoiler says:

    Woodguy: Yup.

    Thanks for pointing that out.

    The whole entire article is quite disheartening.

    I have given MacT a lot of rope so far, but losing Petry for a pick with the Nikitin and Ference contracts on the books is unconscionable.

    Like LT says, this is what loser organizations do.

    And Rom makes a good point about this decision being made some time ago.

    I can easily see a scenario where the Oil were offering say 4M X 3 and the Petry camp going, “we want 5 or 6 yrs and the number begins with a 5.” and the Braintrust thinking,” he’s putting himself before the team. We can’t have that guy around.”

    I am trying to get into their heads. Are they worried about what a big Petry contract will mean to what they have to pay Schultz? Do they expect more scoring for that level of payday? Do they know they can replace him with someone better this summer?

    That last thing had better come true or they might as well light Hall’s contract on fire for all the good it will have brought. I’m already pissed they’re blowing the Gordon years.

    But you gotta know they’re not going to blow the little spare money they will have this off-season on a dman. It’s going to be blown on a name goalie, who will cost assets to acquire. Purcell, Nikitin and Ference will all still be on the books next season. And one of those two yahoos is going to be playing in Petry’s spot on the right side and it is going to be a nightmare. A mine fire. The kind that burn for decades and never go out.

  80. oliveoilers says:

    I can’t help thinking EDM are praying/expecting that the next CFP will just fall in their laps, and all will be good with the world.

  81. Henry says:

    spoiler: The whole entire article is quite disheartening.

    I have given MacT a lot of rope so far, but losing Petry for a pick with the Nikitin and Ference contracts on the books is unconscionable.

    But you gotta know they’re not going to blow the little spare money they will have this off-season on a dman.It’s going to be blown on a name goalie, who will cost assets to acquire. Purcell, Nikitin and Ference will all still be on the books next season. And one of those two yahoos is going to be playing in Petry’s spot on the right side and it is going to be a nightmare. A mine fire.The kind that burn for decades and never go out.

    If Fayne enjoys a shoulder separation next year, both Ference and Nikitin could be playing the right side. Even if the rookies are all on the left side, teams will be dumping in to the right corner every time.

  82. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    commonfan14: Another money paragraph that pretty much kills any 11th hour signing thoughts:
    Sources say teams have already started calling Arnott to see if Petry might want to sign with them before he goes the free-agent route July 1. If so, the Oilers could conceivably get something more than, say, a second-round draft pick or a younger defenceman in a trade.

    Or – or they let Petry find out what other teams are willing to pay him, and then offer more. Petry gets to see his UFA value, and the Oilers get to keep their best defender.

    I get the distinct impression I’m floating down a river…

  83. Johnny says:

    Why are they whale hunting (Boychuk, Phaneuf, insert other highly paid aging veteran)??? We are a capped out near last placed team!!

    This Petry fiasco is a joke. They don’t like his personality. I believe MacFuckFace said “not assertive”. So he doesn’t have Lowes bullheaded personality. Another great move 6 rings and team.

  84. book¡je says:

    I’ve said things like “Mact will sign Petry last minute”, however, I think that’s probably just deep-seeded fan hope. I think we have to accept that these guys are the assholes that Woodguy says they are (though even he gets ‘fan brain’ at times).

  85. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Woodguy: New CBA has CHL kids needing contracts in 2 years or back in the draft no?

    So they had to sign him this summer or he’d hit the draft again in 2016.

    That was one of the reasons the Oilers took so many marginal college kids this past year. (scared of making decisions in 2 years on too many CHLers, what awful decision making)You still get 4 years with them and you now get 4 with kids drafted out of Europe.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m 75% sure I got it.

    He’s a 2014 draft (the Leon draft). He’s only a 1/4 or so of the way through the rights holding window (I think). They have till summer 2016 to sign him and he goes back 2017….

    I could be really wrong on this. But, if it is the way you suggest, everyone would have to be signed in their draft+1 year… that can’t be right.

  86. season not played says:

    Johnny,

    This might be the most damning indictment of Oiler Management throughout this failed rebuild. When they began the process of scorched earth rebuild they were a capped out team near the bottom of the standings with very little in terms of prospects on the way and a bleak future.

    The result of five years of rebuilding?

    A capped out team near the bottom of the standings with very little in terms of prospects on the way and a bleak future.

  87. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Driving Play (twitter) says you have to be signed by June 1st 2016 (for 2014 draft) and if not you re-enter late june 2016.

    So, they’d still have 16 months from that Buf-WPG trade to sort out a contract with Lemieux

  88. frjohnk says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Driving Play (twitter) says you have to be signed by June 1st 2016 (for 2014 draft) and if not you re-enter late june 2016.

    So, they’d still have 16 months from that Buf-WPG trade to sort out a contract with Lemieux

    I’m on my phone but there is an article on the score saying that Claude Lemieux wouldn’t let his son sign in Buffalo.

  89. slopitch says:

    Oilers don’t have prospects? I’m pretty content adding Nurse/Drai to the mix. Barons are sending up decent players like Lander/Klef/MM and another lottery pick is coming.

    I’d avoid UFA shopping this summer. Much rather target Phaneuf/Seabrook and other 2Cs like Kadri. Also this Petry return better be something else. Maybe MacT is letting other teams make offers since he knows if he comes in at 5 million it may be the best offer. Haha I doubt it. Still klinging to the little hope remaining.

  90. G Money says:

    That Montador news hits close to home.

    Three and a half years ago, I lost a friend and business partner to suicide. He was 38 and left behind a wife and two young daughters.

    He grew up playing competitive hockey and riding motocross, and was riding professionally by the time he got into University. I’d bet he had many head injuries during that time, just knowing his personality. Even during the two years we worked together, as a desk jockey he still ended up with two major concussions (one from rec hockey and one from a mountain bike riding wipeout).

    He had classic post concussion symptoms for years, including depression (which he hid extraordinarily well). All I ever saw were occasional bouts of illness from a guy who was in extremely good physical health.

    Though I’ve never heard it confirmed from the family, I’m convinced CTE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy) was at the root of his issues.

    This is why I’ve stopped cheering for fights and though I love a big hit, it’ gotta be strictly below the head. It’s one thing for these guys to sacrifice their bodies … quite another to give up their lives.

    Man.

  91. G Money says:

    As fans we have no choice but to hope that there is some strategy to actually improve the team in the long run behind the Petry machinations.

    History tells us that there is a 90% chance it is really as incompetent and petty as it appears to be.

    CrazyCoach earlier called Petry “Poetry”, not sure if that was intended or not. But I thought to myself, if you combine Poetry (on ice) with petty (treated off ice), you do indeed get Petry.

    Auston Matthews ’16: I get the distinct impression I’m floating down a river…

    As fans, we are living in a van down by the river.

  92. G Money says:

    *** NERD ALERT ***

    The temporal Corsi project data gathering phase continues apace, and the scripts are keeping my CPU fans and cable modem running full speed.

    There is still work to do to clean the data – it is unbelievably inconsistent, biased, and just plain shitty … must be the referees doing the data too! (baddump bump)

    However, it is getting close. Just have to figure out how to properly reconcile multiple events with the same type and time (e.g. two shots in the same second).

    The output will be a CSV of all play by play from 2009 to present, with fields reconciled from multiple sources e.g. x,y coord data from the RTSS. Additionally, I’m calculating or extracting fields like Corsi EV #, Fenwick EV #, seconds elapsed, shot type, and shot distance.

    For those curious, this is the current CSV for this season (up to game 822, Feb 13). As I said, once completed, I will make this freely available to all.

    https://app.box.com/s/tm2y0kdjs5qbesre3ohq8wus1vfxo57a

    (Note: 40 MB).

  93. rickithebear says:

    I keep thinking that MacT realizes:

    -the onlyNHL depth from Tambo back is:
    Eberle; Hall; RNH;

    -questioned weather Petry; Schultz; Yak are part of the future.

    – realizes Eakins was a huge mistake.
    Making all player evaluation under him questionnable.

    – needed to chase a whole collection of veteran adds to provide competitive depth.

    – all successful teams build thru draft
    and
    Have cheaper young contracts replace more expelsive veteran roles.

    – goalies are important.
    has acquired 1 strong peer trend tender each year.
    Broisoit
    18 CHL .914
    19 CHL .917
    20 ECHL .924
    21 AHL .920
    Nagelvoort
    18 NCAA .929
    19 After chabot fired .929
    needs .920+ in Ahl to be part of: Schnieder; Bishop; Elliot; Quick; Howard

    There is Talent all over the world.
    Try it!

    Draft: 1. Skill 2. Skating 3. size
    2013:
    Nurse ; Yakimov; Slepyshev; Muir; Campbell; Betker
    2014:
    Draisatl; Laggesson
    2015:
    #3/#4
    #21-#25
    #33
    #68
    #93

    What do we know under Nelson:
    Post knee:
    Hall is +10 better and 53% PPG better.
    Eberle +9 better and 42% PPG better
    RNH +2 better and 43% PPG better
    Pouliot +7 better 37% PPG better
    Lander getting 18+ shifts
    11gm 3G 6A -1 .82 PPG
    Roy 21 Gm 5G 4A -6; +4 with Pouliot and -10 with Yak
    Hendricks important to PK 20 ZS Fwd
    Gordon important to PK 20% ZS forward

    Yak is -.49 GD/gm with Nelson/Eakins roy or anybody
    Just get rid of half a G behind per game.

  94. hags9k says:

    It’s a good point Ricki, how long do we suffer the Yak growing pains? The rest of this season he may as well play and try and figure it out.

    But what do we do if 25 games into 15-16 he is costing us GA at a similar pace. Do we continue to try and develop him even if it costs another season, or is he sent away. That crossroads is on the horizon.

    You can make a very similar statement for 19. We need those two to “get it”. Like right now. Yesterday. If they continue to struggle, we are in a very tough spot.

    I am holding out last minute hope on Petry. I could see him signed, but if they don’t and if it’s true they didn’t even offer a contract, then this tier two fan takes another big step towards the door. I just hate that they haven’t flushed management. It’s just so hard to get behind these arrogant, incompetant, entitled cronies.

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