SUNSHINE, BLUE SKIES?

I’ve never seen a game Taylor Hall’s in that failed to offer great entertainment, so when the Edmonton Oilers tweeted out today that No. 4 would take the morning skate my mood improved markedly. Now, it’s unlikely he’ll play (Nikita Nikitin could return)  but at the very least Hall is getting closer.

If you click the link there’s a nice update from Todd Nelson on Hall, Nikitin and some talk about the power play (with credit to Craig Ramsay). Tomorrow night against Toronto should be an interesting game. I’ll have Scott Cullen from TSN as a guest at 11 tomorrow morning on the Lowdown, we’ll preview the game and talk about the summer.

If Hall and Nikitin return, we might see the Oilers run with the following lineup:

  • Hall—Nuge—Eberle
  • Pouliot—Roy—Yakupov
  • Fraser—Lander—Purcell
  • Hendricks—Gordon—Klinkhammer
  • Klefbom—Schultz
  • Marincin—Fayne
  • Ference—Nikitin
  • Scrivens

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58 Responses to "SUNSHINE, BLUE SKIES?"

  1. TheOtherJohn says:

    Hallsy BACK !!!!

  2. LadiesloveSmid says:

    think it’s time for the Fraser experiment to end. Rather give Curtis Hamilton a shot. Or bring mack Magnus. Need a little speed

  3. KozyMel says:

    LadiesloveSmid,

    Can’t we end the Purcell experiment and give Hamilton the shot there?

  4. Tire Fire says:

    KozyMel:
    LadiesloveSmid,

    Can’t we end the Purcell experiment and give Hamilton the shot there?

    Yeah! That loafer is only 4th on the team in points! I say healthy scratch ‘im until he gets the message and gets at least 2nd most points.

  5. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    What’s the deal with Iiro again?

    How long is he out?

    Also… keep in mind that if/when Fraser comes out of the lineup, they probably shoot themselves in the foot and play Gazdic. They love him. And, in a tank battle of a season, I can see the entertainment value argument in “well, at these there was a tilt!”

  6. WhoDiss says:

    Put hall on the 2nd line. For the rest of the season. Then trade him for a couple actual nhl players to help us out. Yes he is good but we’re just as good without him as we are with him… sure he’ll flourish but who doesn’t when they leave. I don’t want to Draft 1,2, or 3 next year! Break up the core is the only way….

  7. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    WhoDiss:
    we’re just as good without him as we are with him…

    oh my.

  8. book¡je says:

    WhoDiss:
    Put hall on the 2nd line. For the rest of the season. Then trade him for a couple actual nhl players to help us out. Yes he is good but we’re just as good without him as we are with him… sure he’ll flourish but who doesn’t when they leave. I don’t want to Draft 1,2, or 3 next year!Break up the core is the only way….

    We should eat poor children for food.

  9. Woodguy says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: oh my.

    Rule #1 of fandom:

    “If a team is bad, it’s because of the best players”

  10. Woodguy says:

    book¡je: We should eat poor children for food.

    Bookie was drinking heavy last night and the whisky is still angering up the blood!

  11. Lowetide says:

    WhoDiss:
    Put hall on the 2nd line. For the rest of the season. Then trade him for a couple actual nhl players to help us out. Yes he is good but we’re just as good without him as we are with him… sure he’ll flourish but who doesn’t when they leave. I don’t want to Draft 1,2, or 3 next year!Break up the core is the only way….

    Welcome, Mr. Stellick!

  12. WhoDiss says:

    book¡je,

    More like eat our over paid children for brunch!

  13. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide: Welcome, Mr. Stellick!

    Are you sure? Could be Cox or any number of other media personalities.

  14. RexLibris says:

    book¡je: We should eat poor children for food.

    I don’t think that comment was intended with anywhere near the level of irony and wit that Mr. Swift had with his modest proposal.

  15. WhoDiss says:

    Halls on the 2nd potentially give us two decent scoring lines. 1st is doing fine without him!

  16. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    book¡je: We should eat poor children for food.

    We should eat rich, fat children for food.

    Let the poor eat their own damn, ugly, Gordless, commie kids.

  17. Lowetide says:

    RexLibris: Are you sure? Could be Cox or any number of other media personalities.

    Stellick, as GM (for Toronto) selected Scott Thornton No. 3 overall, from the Belleville Bulls. The Leafs had two more picks in the first round and when it came time to take the second guy, they chose Rob Pearson at No. 12—from the Belleville Bulls!

    At the end of round one, with Toronto’s final pick of the three, Stellick said “what the heck!” (literally) and drrafted Steve Bancroft from the Bulls.

    Quebec took Adam Foote with the next pick.

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1989e.html

    Bancroft played 6 games in the NHL.

  18. Lowetide says:

    Alright you people, if this blog starts showing up in weird google searches I’m personally going to kick several asses!

  19. Ca$h-Money! says:

    I’ve gotta agree with the idea of putting Hall on the second though. Pouliot is a better compliment to RNH and Ebs. RNH in particular has been at his best this year during the two stretches when Hall was out. Much more productive offensively, and really looking like he owns the ice (and the team).

    I’d like to see Hall play with Lander and… Someone. Keep Yak on the third with Roy and the wagon line together.

  20. jfry says:

    i get the hate for gazdic, but saying that we pull fraser and inject gazdic and it’s going to make us insanely worse is not a true narrative.

    they have played basically the same amount of games. fraser has 4 more points and is -8 compared to gazdic’s -1.

    it’s shuffling lawn chairs. one is wood. one is plastic. they’re both totally disposable. total junk. it’s embarrassing that we talk about playing either and that we have no one better to call up.

    #becauseOilers

    http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_time_on_ice_stats.php?ds=8&f1=2014_s&f2=5v5&f5=EDM&c=0+1+3+5+8+9+11+13+29+30+31+32+33+34+35+36+37+38+39+40+41+42+43+44+45+46+47+48#

  21. Lowetide says:

    I don’t hate Gazdic.

  22. wheatnoil says:

    If the Oilers waive Fraser, do his rights go back to Boston (assuming they want him), even though it’s past the trade deadline? If he does, and if Boston makes the playoffs, could he play in the playoffs even though he switched teams after the trade deadline?

    Purely academic, I know, but just curious.

  23. Tire Fire says:

    Lowetide:
    I don’t just hate Gazdic, I also hate Smid.

    FTFY.

  24. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide: Stellick, as GM (for Toronto) selected Scott Thornton No. 3 overall, from the Belleville Bulls. The Leafs had two more picks in the first round and when it came time to take the second guy, they chose Rob Pearson at No. 12—from the Belleville Bulls!

    At the end of round one, with Toronto’s final pick of the three, Stellick said “what the heck!” (literally) and drrafted Steve Bancroft from the Bulls.

    Quebec took Adam Foote with the next pick.

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1989e.html

    Bancroft played 6 games in the NHL.

    Got it.

    I wasn’t paying much attention to Toronto when Stellick was GM there.

    Explains why he has been gainfully employed as a commentator ever since, though. The man obviously knows the hockey business inside and out.

    So based on that short bit of history, and Toronto’s drafting record in general, why are we fretting over Lawson Crouse as an Oiler? Seems to me that of the two teams the Leafs are far more likely to take Crouse 3rd or 4th overall than the Oilers.

    Now, if there were some unheralded 6’5″ C playing in the Kamchatka Junior leagues named Slava Voresky…

  25. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide: Stellick, as GM (for Toronto) selected Scott Thornton No. 3 overall, from the Belleville Bulls. The Leafs had two more picks in the first round and when it came time to take the second guy, they chose Rob Pearson at No. 12—from the Belleville Bulls!

    At the end of round one, with Toronto’s final pick of the three, Stellick said “what the heck!” (literally) and drrafted Steve Bancroft from the Bulls.

    Quebec took Adam Foote with the next pick.

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1989e.html

    Bancroft played 6 games in the NHL.

    Man,

    Detroit had a hell of a day at the draft table!

  26. Gordies Elbow says:

    Lowetide: Stellick, as GM (for Toronto) selected Scott Thornton No. 3 overall, from the Belleville Bulls. The Leafs had two more picks in the first round and when it came time to take the second guy, they chose Rob Pearson at No. 12—from the Belleville Bulls!

    At the end of round one, with Toronto’s final pick of the three, Stellick said “what the heck!” (literally) and drrafted Steve Bancroft from the Bulls.

    Quebec took Adam Foote with the next pick.

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1989e.html

    Bancroft played 6 games in the NHL.

    I hate the 1989 draft.

    Detroit drafted,

    1st round, 11th overall;
    2nd round, 32nd overall;
    3rd round, 53rd overall;
    4th round, 74th overall;
    6th round, 116th overall; and,
    11th round, 221st overall.

    All they got was Mike Sillinger, Bob Boughner, Nicklas Lidstrom, Sergei Fedorov, Dallas Drake, and Vladimir Konstantinov,

    My son, an atom defender who wears #5, has a Red Wings jersey because of that draft. “spits.”

  27. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    jfry:
    i get the hate for gazdic, but saying that we pull fraser and inject gazdic and it’s going to make us insanely worse is not a true narrative.

    they have played basically the same amount of games. fraser has 4 more points and is -8 compared to gazdic’s -1.

    it’s shuffling lawn chairs. one is wood. one is plastic. they’re both totally disposable. total junk. it’s embarrassing that we talk about playing either and that we have no one better to call up.

    #becauseOilers

    http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_time_on_ice_stats.php?ds=8&f1=2014_s&f2=5v5&f5=EDM&c=0+1+3+5+8+9+11+13+29+30+31+32+33+34+35+36+37+38+39+40+41+42+43+44+45+46+47+48#

    I guess this is in response to my comment.

    I’m not saying playing Gazdic is bad because Fraser is much better than him. I never said anything like this.

    The problem is that Gazdic is a bad hockey player. And, he’s also a player we have surrounded in terms of his abilities. We don’t know much about Miller or Hamilton. That’s the issue here.

  28. book¡je says:

    RexLibris: I don’t think that comment was intended with anywhere near the level of irony and wit that Mr. Swift had with his modest proposal.

    I agree. Perhaps I unfortunately flattered Mr. Troll here.

  29. LMHF#1 says:

    Congrats to the Bears on another championship.

    Easily the finest hockey organization in this city.

  30. kinger_OIL says:

    I count 10 players on this lineup that don’t make the roster on most playoff teams Maybe a few bottom 6 that play on a real stacked team. LT. talks about 3 or 4 upgrades for competing next year: realistically it’s 8. I’m in Florida now took my son who is 5 to watch Florida and jäger vs the jets. Two honest teams. Complete games with some flaws. Both so much further ahead than the oil. Nothing beats 10 days down in Miami ft launder dale for spring training hockey baseball an beach! Had drinks with Dino cicalerlli remember him ~ man the oil are long ways away from the eyes of the players and that means a lot according to Dino.

  31. RexLibris says:

    LMHF#1:
    Congrats to the Bears on another championship.

    Easily the finest hockey organization in this city.

    South Side Athletic Club is pretty good from what I’ve heard. Let’s not forget the Oil Kings. I think there’s some pretty good rec hockey teams in the city, too.

  32. leadfarmer says:

    If Hall is wearing any kind of a brace just sit him out. Don’t need the extra points this year and he doesn’t need another injury this year.

    And the kid line with Eberle, Nuge and Hall was cute, like two years ago. They haven’t had much success this year and Pouliot compliments the other two better than Hall. Would be nice to have another center to play Hall with

  33. Alpine says:

    kinger_OIL,

    Florida had just come off back to back finishes, and are just now contending for middle of the pack in a conference deep with pretenders. So, they’re not way ahead of the Oilers to me, just ahead. They added an 18 year old playing big minutes with Brian Campbell against soft comp and a good, reliable starting goalie. Bjugstad and Huberdeau have taken steps forward as well.

    Oilers aren’t so hard pressed to match that outside of Luongo and Campbell. Ekblad himself was a bit of wildcard to be as effective as he’s been at 18, but you can’t discount how nice it must be to come into the league with Campbell as your partner. Nurse isn’t quite at Ekblad’s level but he will be 20 not 18 and at an age where a rookie d-man can make a positive impact. Draisaitl and Yak should be candidates to hit upticks in offence like some of those on FLA, but won’t be expected to carry the team’s offence either. Then there’s the McEichel factor which probably pushes us close to FLA in the league standings, if we are to be so very lucky.

    So you’re right in that it’s a tall order to move forward without a top pairing and a goalie, but it’s merely 2/3 upgrades and some good fortune rather than 8. I’d prefer more than 3 upgrades to safeguard against not getting a 1D and 1G, but it’s not totally unrealistic with capped out teams looking to shed or someone like Bernier becoming available. I’m not so sure we’re far off from average, merely that the balance of the core (forward heavy) isn’t quite right.

  34. TemujinBC says:

    The Canucks selected Jason Herter, 8th overall.

    Yergh.

    Of course they did okay with Bure in round six. And Sandy Moger was a 9th round selection, traded to Boston and played over 200 games for them.

  35. Zack says:

    Gordies Elbow,

    Wow didn’t know they had that strong of a draft! Sometimes I still watch Konstantinov hi light videos, it’s a shame his career and life was derIled by injury.

  36. Gordies Elbow says:

    Zack,

    You and me both.

    My son’s name is Nick, and he’s a defender. He cheers for both Edmonton (cause his Dad) and Detroit (cause Lidstrom,) but it’s hard to watch Edmonton games with him. He picks out defensive miscues. He’s 10. 🙁

  37. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Zack:
    Gordies Elbow,

    Wow didn’t know they had that strong of a draft! Sometimes I still watch Konstantinov hi light videos, it’s a shame his career and life was derIled by injury.

    I loved Konstantinov. Had him in my keeper league. Not a great scorer but a complete player, & a menace to anybody wearing opposition colours. A real beauty. Tragic what happened to him.

  38. gvblackhawk says:

    Where is DSF with his nightly Bennett and Crouse update?

  39. dannyboy says:

    So when does hall slot upon return?

    I still get caught up in dregers comments about hall not being what they’d hoped in terms of culture

    Im certainly against trading hall. But perhaps humbling him by having him on a line with lander. Or let him play the left wing with roy and yak.

    Nuge has been far more dominant by eye in these stretches without hall. He deserves a letter. (so does yak for his effort)

  40. Lowetide says:

    We MUST draft humble scorers. Let’s cast about for those guys!

  41. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide:
    We MUST draft humble scorers. Let’s cast about for those guys!

    I always find that when people are the best at a very competitive endevour they are usually very humble.

    Especially if they are in their 20’s.

  42. admiralmark says:

    humble or hobble?

  43. book¡je says:

    Lowetide:
    We MUST draft humble scorers. Let’s cast about for those guys!

    MacT is on it – priority list – Humble, hard working, real team player, liked him in his draft year, goes in the tough corners, gets his nose dirty, clutch, good in the room, talented at the position they are in.

  44. book¡je says:

    I’ve seen loads of interviews with Hall and he typically comes across as a very respectful and somewhat humble individual.

    Where does the Hall is arrogant talking point come from? Is there any basis at all?

  45. dannyboy says:

    Well the dreger comments. Hes a connected guy no?

  46. 719 says:

    Dreger is not very accurate. Look at the stuff he reports. Don’t forget what he said about Yak, none of it was true.

  47. Younger Oil says:

    book¡je,

    Aside from a couple people in the media mentioning it, his on ice attitude possibly contributes to that perception as well, from the Eakins water bottle incident last year, to sulking/loudly swearing/smashing his stick when things don’t go his way on the ice more than others. I haven’t noticed as much of it this year, but the frustration/immaturity/competitiveness probably comes off to some as having a bad attitude, while others see it as a good thing.

  48. pocession charge says:

    book¡je:
    I’ve seen loads of interviews with Hall and he typically comes across as a very respectful and somewhat humble individual.

    Where does the Hall is arrogant talking point come from?Is there any basis at all?

    He’s young, rich, and successful so he must be arrogant. Let’s talk some shit about him just in case he didn’t pass Bucky’s class on Oiler Cultural Elements 110.3. The coach should definitely saddle him with lower quality teammates and ignore his past performance — knock him down a couple of pegs!

  49. pocession charge says:

    Younger Oil:
    book¡je,

    Aside from a couple people in the media mentioning it, his on ice attitude possibly contributes to that perception as well, from the Eakins water bottle incident last year, to sulking/loudly swearing/smashing his stick when things don’t go his way on the ice more than others. I haven’t noticed as much of it this year, but the frustration/immaturity/competitiveness probably comes off to some as having a bad attitude, while others see it as a good thing.

    Well now I’m definitely convinced.

  50. Younger Oil says:

    pocession charge: Well now I’m definitely convinced.

    That wasn’t meant to convince anyone, I was simply giving reasons as to why Hall is perceived that way, answering the question posed. I thought I made it clear that I don’t necessarily think those things, or that they are true, just saying where that perception stems from.

  51. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Younger Oil:
    book¡je,

    Aside from a couple people in the media mentioning it, his on ice attitude possibly contributes to that perception as well, from the Eakins water bottle incident last year, to sulking/loudly swearing/smashing his stick when things don’t go his way on the ice more than others. I haven’t noticed as much of it this year, but the frustration/immaturity/competitiveness probably comes off to some as having a bad attitude, while others see it as a good thing.

    I’ll hear the same thing, though it’ll be guy A wants to chat up Hall at the bar and talk oilers and Hall brushes him off. So Hall is labelled a cocky whatever-bag because he isn’t delivering like he does at a jersey signing. Whereas Eberle is more approachable in the club.

    Hall’s got an attitude “problem” the same way Subban does. He wants to win, and will physically display it. Total rubbish

  52. pocession charge says:

    Younger Oil: That wasn’t meant to convince anyone, I was simply giving reasons as to why Hall is perceived that way, answering the question posed. I thought I made it clear that I don’t necessarily think those things, or that they are true, just saying why some people think that way.

    People say that garbage because a) they are a girl who wishes they could date him and got shot down or b) they are a guy who wishes they were him because he’s athletic, rich, famous, and gets the girls.

    What do his real friends and family members say about him? Anything else is just a bunch of trite, immature nonsense.

  53. Younger Oil says:

    LadiesloveSmid,

    pocession charge,

    You guys don’t need to defend that viewpoint to me, I’m pretty sure we are all in agreement. I thought I made it as clear as I could that I don’t necessarily agree with the viewpoint I was sharing, and that the sources of that perspective are not entirely reliable, I was just stating why some people think that way, I didn’t say they were correct in their views.

  54. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    You can’t take “Oilers” out of “Oilers’ Fans”

  55. PhrankLee says:

    Oh I love The Temptations.

    Sunshine, blue skies. Please go away……

    How I wish that it would rain….Oooooooohooooo!

    This song is great except I think the bird samples were a mistake. And the surf samples.

    LT The Temptations would be excellent RE material.

  56. leadfarmer says:

    Yeah we need a guy that can humble the puck into the net. You know with his humbleness.

  57. PhrankLee says:

    leadfarmer: Yeah we need a guy that can humble the puck into the net. You know with his humbleness.

    There seems to be truth to the take that the Oilers pass on personality types. I think it’s part of the ‘smartest guys in the room’ thing LT talks about.

    We passed on Ribeiro. I think that was a mistake.
    Plus we seem to have an abundance of very low-peak personalities. The last character we had, to my recollection, was Ryan Jones.

    Oilers are nostalgic and want to put the “right face on the franchise”…It’s in step with admitting that they find it impossible to tolerate any ego larger than current management.

  58. jp says:

    RexLibris: South Side Athletic Club is pretty good from what I’ve heard. Let’s not forget the Oil Kings. I think there’s some pretty good rec hockey teams in the city, too.

    There was also a team in the NHL that was pretty good once. But that was a long time ago.

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