RE 14-15 TAYLOR HALL: MIDNIGHT RIDER

by Lowetide

There is nothing more intoxicating for Oilers fans than watching Taylor Hall in full flight. The opposition tightens, sphincters all in a row, as he descends into the zone like a tornado on ice. “Chance” on the fly is as good as it gets. This season, Chance did not pass go as he had in the past, the team’s best pilot grounded by injury and frustration and subpar mates from time to time. It was a miserable waste of talent.

RE 14-15: 73GP, 33-50-83 1.14

ACTUAL 14-15: 53gp, 14-24-38  .717

TAYLOR HALL BOXCARS, THREE YEAR TRENDtaylor hall boxcars threeTAYLOR HALL FANCY STATS, THREE YEAR TREND taylor hall fancy three

  1. What happened? Hall was hurt quite a bit this season. He started well (9 points in his first 10 games) and ended well (9 points in his final 12 games) but the middle (31GP, 20 points) wasnt Hall-level scoring.
  2. Was there anything good? Sure. Hall’s possession stats are back to solid, but he didn’t have the usual touch.
  3. Why? Well, he was injured a few times. He missed six games in November with a strained MCL; missed three games late January with a leg injury and then came back for one game, got hurt (extension of the previous injury) and lost 20 more. He was gone all of February and most of March.
  4. Any other issues? He played on a line with Tyler Pitlick for 54 minutes, that wasn’t terribly productive, 87 with Andrew Miller, really a lot of time with young players who aren’t going to be helpful in the Hall minutes.
  5. Plus he played center. Bad move. I actually thought he looked good there and still think it was a good idea. I look back on the first time he tried, when Eakins placed him there, and wonder if things would have worked better if he’d stuck with it.
  6. Hall didn’t like it. Yes, and it’s not going to work if he’s not willing. I’d still re-visit the idea if I were Todd Nelson or Todd McLellan. Maybe the time between will have changed Hall’s position on things.
  7. How good IS Hall? He is still a match for John Tavares, marching in lock-step—but our man Taylor is developing an injury history. In his first five seasons in the NHL, Taveres went 350GP, 136-179-315 (.900) and now five years in Hall is 299GP, 106-157-263 (.880). It’s still on par, but Hall has played 51 fewer games, 10 a year. That’s a lot. Taylor Hall is an impact player, a revelation and he’s doing it against the toughest division in the infantry. He’s all-world. I love the guy. He needs to stay healthy.
  8. How good is he without using math? Hall’s touched by God, there are things we say about him we’d never say about another player (Hall’s 1.97/60 at 5×5 is a disappointment—we wouldn’t say that about anyone else) because our expectations of him are so very high—as they should be.
  9. You used a little math. Okay. This.
  10. Should they trade him? Oh God no. That’s the hill I die on.
  11. You have to give in order to get. I want you to imagine a bell curve that would describe a career. From youth through maturity to erosion to dust.
  12. Got it. Okay. Plot a line that starts at 42 on the first heading, then 53, then 86 (estimate of shortened season), 80 and then 38. NOW imagine that we know from history (and we do) that this graph still has room to grow over the next four or five years, before slowly descending. That’s why you don’t trade Taylor Hall. You’re trading an asset that has yet to peak and the asset is really freaking good now! The part of the graph you can see is reaching for the heavens and you’re not halfway across the page. No sir. I’ve earned the rest of that page, Goddamit.
  13. This year was a downer though. Sure, and injuries are going to be in the back of our collective minds from here out. We’ve seen too many missed games to ever be comfortable again in my opinion. I’ve placed a summary of Hall’s injuries at the bottom of this RE, the list is 9 strong now and that’s a lot.
  14. I think you’re making too much of it. Yeah, maybe. It seemed like more, but still he’s missed 51 more games than Tavares. I’d need to see him healthy for two seasons before relaxing on the injury worry. It’s a thing now, not Wendel Clark level but it’s there all the same.
  15. Did he improve under Nelson? At 5×5, he was 32GP, 5-10-15 (.469) through 27 December and 21, 6-11-17 (.810) afterwards. That’s significant improvement but sample size is an issue for sure. At 5×4, he was 32GP, 3-2-5 through Dec 27 and 21GP, 0-1-1 afterwards.
  16. Huh. So much better under Nelson at evens but not much on the PP? Nelson’s PP was running wild when Hall returned, I don’t think he played a huge amount 5×4 and certainly not on the 1PP. I remember him saying that he didn’t want to bugger up a good thing.
  17. Nelson shows well in some areas here, Nuge PP and Hall evens. Yes.
  18. What was the Nuge split again? This came in the comments section of the Nuge RE yesterday, via LinkfromHyRule: It is worth noting the splits for the 5×4/60 numbers: Before Eakins Firing: 2.2 5×4/60; Post Eakins Firing (Dec. 16 forward): 5.5 5×4/60.
  19. What does this mean? I think the sample size is small but the numbers are what they are. Hall played well after December 27 (when healthy) and Nuge was very good 5×4 after the change. Sample size suggests we not overreact but there did appear to be clean air and open road in 2015. We’ll examine this more during the Eakins and Nelson RE’s.
  20. You’re doing one for each? I can’t imagine doing it any other way. The Eakins RE will probably be the most commented one, that’s my guess anyway.
  21. Eakins gets Whipping Post? We’ll see. You could use that song for damn near every coach and executive.
  22. Why this song for Hall? It’s the easiest choice I’ll make in this series. Hall is the central hero in the story of these Oilers, but he’s also a lone wolf and an outsider. The song is about a loner who’s on the run, who keeps running into obstacles but won’t let anything get him down. He hangs on to one more silver dollar (a distant bell, a beautiful memory, a reminder of where he’s from and why he is determined to return) which could represent—for our purposes—Stanley. The vocal by Gregg Allman is fantastic and desperate. Man what a song.

HALL’S INJURY HISTORY

  1. March 5, 2011—suffers ankle injury and misses the remainder of the season.
  2. November 2011—left shoulder injury, misses 7 games.
  3. January 2012—head injury, misses two games.
  4. March 18, 2012—concussion, misses the remainder of the season.
  5. March 2013—hamstring injury, misses one game.
  6. November 2013—left knee injury, misses 7 games.
  7. November 3, 2014—sprained mcl (right knee), misses 6 games.
  8. January 27, 2015—leg injury, misses 3 games.
  9. February 24, 2015—leg injury, misses 20 games.
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PhrankLee

Woodguy: Just fucking wrecked him eh?

Rectum?!

I damn near killed him!

Dashingsilverfox

Woodguy: You know that Hemsky has out scored Brown from the day our bet ended right?

Bloody timing.

Maybe you’ve heard…timing is everything.

Woodguy

leadfarmer:
Woodguy,

Actually his 22 year old season Gaborik was tied for #1. With the rest of the league.

Gaborik was a very special player before injuries decreased his effectiveness.He was the only good player on very crappy wild teams for many years.Comparing his injury history with Halls is quite silly.Hall would have to miss about half of the next 4 seasons to make their injury history comparable.Missing 10 games a year is nowhere close to that.

I used age at the end of the season.

Gaborik played 81 games in 02/03 and 65 in 03/04.

RexLibris

justDOit: It’s not so much black as the color of an equal mixture of espresso and blood. The nose is closed, inexpressive, slightly charred. The palate is blatantly offensive. There is something unmistakably wrong with it. It tastes like cigar ashes mixed with vodka and moldy blackberry jam. The only nice note is in the background, with some hints of dark chocolate covered espresso beans.

Is this the tasting site or a scouting report on the Flames?

Woodguy

justDOit:
I won’t bother either of you with an urbandictionary.com definition of ATM…

Hey, hey, hey you keep that shit to yourself.

So to speak.

Woodguy

Dashingsilverfox: I like to think so.

You know that Hemsky has out scored Brown from the day our bet ended right?

Bloody timing.

Woodguy

godot10: So suddenly Corsi/possession doesn’t matter to Woodguy?

Well that’s leaping a tall building in a single bound.

I understand how crucial points are, so I don’t care about possession.

Is there a law that states you can’t think both are important?

Did you miss all my posts on how the ability to create goals in the ozone is a different skill set than the ability to drive play and how the players who do both (like Hall) are the elite of the elite?

JD_Wry

I won’t bother either of you with an urbandictionary.com definition of ATM…

Dashingsilverfox

Woodguy: I am your personal ATM

I like to think so.
🙂

Woodguy

Dashingsilverfox: I also have a C-Note on the Wild…although I like to call it a “Woodguy”

I am your personal ATM

JD_Wry

Gerta Rauss,

G Mo,

Yup – small nibble, and then a sip. Try not to consume the chocolate, and let it melt a bit in the scotch. Maybe one nibble every two or three sips.

I’ve done this as more of a dessert thing a couple of times. Very unique taste, and yummy without too much sweetness.

godot10

Woodguy:
hunter1909,

Re: Eakins “destroying” Hall.

Last year Hall was 6th in the NHL in pts/gm.
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?fetchKey=20142ALLSASALL&ord=desc&sort=avgPointsPerGame&viewName=points

Just fucking wrecked him eh?

So suddenly Corsi/possession doesn’t matter to Woodguy?

Gerta Rauss

G Money: Just to clarify – you have the chocolate with the scotch, or instead of the scotch?

lol

With the scotch, and I’m not suggesting you gnaw on a piece of dark chocolate the size of a Buick, just a small bite

I’m sure the veteran scotch drinkers will turn their nose up at this suggestion, but for this rookie it made a big difference.

Dashingsilverfox

A few years back I was attending a Honda Canada event in Banff.

They hired out the entire Maple Leaf Restaurant for dinner and drinks on Friday night and it was open bar all night.

Under the circumstances, all I could do was sample their extensive Scotch menu before, during and after dinner.

Needless to say, I missed the schedule ski outing on Saturday although I do recall the Maple Leaf has a very extensive and very expensive selection.

JD_Wry

Woodguy: Current fav is Bunnahabhain 24 year old.

I’m scared to ask… and if I have to ask, I probably can’t afford it.

Speaking of expensive scotch, I’ve tried some Johnnie Walker Blue Label and a 21 yr Fiddich.

The Blue was oh so nice (I think it was $27/oz at the place we were at, but it was a company outing and I only had four), and the GF was good too, but I only got a small sample of that one.

Woodguy

justDOit: That’s an odd one, isn’t it? The guy goes from 0.898/3.51 in the AHL, to 0.941/1.79 in the NHL. Same season!

The coach will turn into a pumpkin, but we have no clue as to when.

Hope it’s not in the first round.

Dashingsilverfox

Woodguy: I would welcome that result.

Both for the MacT thing and the fact I have a C-note on MIN to win the Cup at 40/1. (made the bet right after they picked up Doobie and we’re 11th or so in the WC)

I also have a C-Note on the Wild…although I like to call it a “Woodguy”

Edit: Bovada actually has Dubnyk as second most likely to win the Conn Smyth at 14-1 right behind Lundqvist at 19-2.

leadfarmer

Woodguy,

Actually his 22 year old season Gaborik was tied for #1. With the rest of the league.

Gaborik was a very special player before injuries decreased his effectiveness. He was the only good player on very crappy wild teams for many years. Comparing his injury history with Halls is quite silly. Hall would have to miss about half of the next 4 seasons to make their injury history comparable. Missing 10 games a year is nowhere close to that.

N64

Магия 10: Eakins probably came at night and destroyed the rehab equipment

Магия 10: Dallas Eakins,who, as we now know, was no better than a criminal

h/t George Orwell.

Woodguy

Dashingsilverfox:
WC

VAN
WPG
MIN
CHI

VAN
MIN

MIN

EC

NYR
OTT
TBL
NYI

OTT
TBL

TBL

MIN wins the Cup

Dubnyk wins the Conn Smyth.

MacT’s head explodes.

I would welcome that result.

Both for the MacT thing and the fact I have a C-note on MIN to win the Cup at 40/1. (made the bet right after they picked up Doobie and we’re 11th or so in the WC)

tubes

Had to post this after Halfwise posted a cover and this came on. Just got past the 50 minutes mark and wow…pretty awesome stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhXj6VIgJtE

Woodguy

G Money: I appear to be firmly in a “scotch tastes vaguely like rubber bands and gasoline” minority crowd here.

Drink waste!

Post taste!

You’re not drinking the right scotch.

I’m in the “most scotch tasted like gasoline strained over a campfire” guy, but i’ve had some good ones.

Current fav is Bunnahabhain 24 year old.

Dashingsilverfox

WC

VAN
WPG
MIN
CHI

VAN
MIN

MIN

EC

NYR
OTT
TBL
NYI

OTT
TBL

TBL

MIN wins the Cup

Dubnyk wins the Conn Smyth.

MacT’s head explodes.

JD_Wry

Woodguy: If Hamburger keep channeling his inner Hasek

That’s an odd one, isn’t it? The guy goes from 0.898/3.51 in the AHL, to 0.941/1.79 in the NHL. Same season!

Woodguy

Магия 10:
Woodguy,

Looks like Eakins got to Gaborik that 2nd year.

He’s such an asshole.

G Money

Woodguy,

Uncanny!!!!

Woodguy

Ducey: I was looking for Robbie’s shinebox.

I was hoping for that too.

Or Gagner in an elf suit.

G Money

Gerta Rauss: A bit of chocolate really makes a difference(dark chocolate of course)

Just to clarify – you have the chocolate with the scotch, or instead of the scotch?

N64

Woodguy,

Looks like Eakins got to Gaborik that 2nd year.

Woodguy

G Money:
Pfft.Puck shmuck.Pretty sure it was Eakins himself that hid in the corner, then jumped out and whacked Hall in the ankle with a baseball bat.

He also sprained Eberle’s wrist and told Scrivens to flail around like a trout.

N64

Marc: Dallas Eakins: History’s Greatest Monster

Dallas Eakins,who, as we now know, was no better than a criminal

Woodguy

FPB94: Il shoot myself in the foot is his bracket happens.

If Hamburger keep channeling his inner Hasek Les Habs lose their only advantage over OTT.

Should be a series full of comedy.

G Money

Магия 10: Eakins probably came at night and destroyed the rehab equipment.

Marc: Dallas Eakins: History’s Greatest Monster

Pfft. Puck shmuck. Pretty sure it was Eakins himself that hid in the corner, then jumped out and whacked Hall in the ankle with a baseball bat.

Dashingsilverfox

RexLibris: Bylsma surprises me because coaches are so often recycled and GMs usually like experienced ones because it is a safer bet to save their jobs.

I was never very impressed with Shero’s work, but I’m even less enamoured with Rutherford. Going with him was a mistake, in my opinion. It could cost Crosby another two or three years of contention.

And remember what those awards are worth. Jay Feaster won Hockey Executive of the year when the Lightning won the Cup. Puts things in perspective.

Bylsma said explicitly he was going to take a full season away from the game to study tactics.

Woodguy

GriffCity:
leadfarmer,

Ok, fair point on CBJ but the same could be said of Gaborik in MIN as well. He was and is good but cannot be a “franchise” guy if that franchise is to have big success. Hall and Gaborik are very similar players, thats all im saying and its hard to ignore the similarities.

Ok, had a look.

Hall at 21, 8th in the NHL in pts/gm
Hall at 22, 6th in the NHL in pts/gm

Gaborik at 21, 57th in the NHL in pts/gm
Gaborik at 22, 119th in the NHL in pts/gm

Holy Moly, it’s like they’re twins!!

Marc

Магия 10: Took him a full year, but he destroyed ‘em. And if the .72 this year has anything to do with slow recovery from injury, Eakins probably came at night and destroyed the rehab equipment.

Dallas Eakins: History’s Greatest Monster

N64

Woodguy:
hunter1909,

Re: Eakins “destroying” Hall.

Last year Hall was 6th in the NHL in pts/gm.
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?fetchKey=20142ALLSASALL&ord=desc&sort=avgPointsPerGame&viewName=points

Just fucking wrecked him eh?

Took him a full year, but he destroyed ’em. And if the .72 this year has anything to do with slow recovery from injury, Eakins probably came at night and destroyed the rehab equipment.

JD_Wry

G Money,

vinotintazo,

Whatever you do, don’t let anyone convince you to try this stuff. Yes, it’s that color. Loch Dhu.

Sadly, I should have never drank the bottle I bought years ago, as it’s now kind of sought after, although I don’t know why.

From a tasting site:

Labeled “The Black Whisky”, and meant to appeal to a younger market than usually consumes whisky. It’s not so much black as the color of an equal mixture of espresso and blood. The nose is closed, inexpressive, slightly charred. The palate is blatantly offensive. There is something unmistakably wrong with it. It tastes like cigar ashes mixed with vodka and moldy blackberry jam. The only nice note is in the background, with some hints of dark chocolate covered espresso beans.

Woodguy

GriffCity:
leadfarmer,

Ok, fair point on CBJ but the same could be said of Gaborik in MIN as well. He was and is good but cannot be a “franchise” guy if that franchise is to have big success. Hall and Gaborik are very similar players, thats all im saying and its hard to ignore the similarities.

Gaborik finished 8th and then 6th in the NHL in points/game when he was 21 and 22 years old?

I must have missed that.

Woodguy

hunter1909,

Re: Eakins “destroying” Hall.

Last year Hall was 6th in the NHL in pts/gm.
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?fetchKey=20142ALLSASALL&ord=desc&sort=avgPointsPerGame&viewName=points

Just fucking wrecked him eh?

vinotintazo

Favorite Scotch:
-Old Parr
-Buchanan

JD_Wry

RexLibris: Maybe the owners should fire the GM, get Joe and Patrick to retire and they could make he and Marleau GM and AGM.

Joe -> coach

Pat -> GM

Yes…

Gayfish

I quite enjoy Chivas Regal 12. Cheap, but very good.

RexLibris

justDOit:
Wow:

Follow

David PollakVerified account
‏@PollakOnSharks
Thornton’s latest jab at #SJSharks McLellan, not GM: “Todd has to talk to his family. Maybe he should talk to this family as well in here.”

Next move for Jumbo Joe: Using a game-worn Owen Nolan jersey as a napkin.

Then it comes down to whether he’d waive his NMC to leave. He’s buried the GM and now the coach. So do you stay and shut up or actually back up your words by helping to facilitate a trade?

Maybe the owners should fire the GM, get Joe and Patrick to retire and they could make he and Marleau GM and AGM.

JD_Wry

Gerta Rauss: A bit of chocolate

Better suited for cheaper brands though, as it overpowers and sweetens. You may as well be mixing it with coke.

But I agree – they go well together!

(dang – have I ever procrastinated this aft. I need to get the garage ready to do plugs and stuff on my wife’s car…)

Gerta Rauss

G Money: Yeah, I think I’ve been reasonably introduced – mostly experienced scotch drinkers recommending something both high quality and supposedly newbie friendly.

Hasn’t helped!

But I still try the stuff every once in a whey, just because …

I’m still a rookie scotch drinker but my golf buddies have been slowly introducing me with mixed results. A bit of chocolate really makes a difference(dark chocolate of course)

JD_Wry

G Money: Plus I imagine it would be refreshing change to be able to get a decent pass from the back end…

JD_Wry

Wow:

Follow

David PollakVerified account
‏@PollakOnSharks
Thornton’s latest jab at #SJSharks McLellan, not GM: “Todd has to talk to his family. Maybe he should talk to this family as well in here.”

Next move for Jumbo Joe: Using a game-worn Owen Nolan jersey as a napkin.

G Money

gmac2412,

Dang it … I’m good with Nugey resting, but I have this feeling that Yak’s confidence and general rediscovery of what made him special would have been helped tremendously by playing with his countrymen for his country.

Plus I imagine it would be refreshing change to be able to skate around and easily understand what everyone out there is saying, and vice versa…

RexLibris

gmac2412:
Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers · 6m6 minutes ago
After meeting with #Oilers medical staff, Nugent-Hopkins (foot) will not play for Canada at @2015IIHFWorlds | READ > http://ow.ly/3xK27m

Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers ·43m 43 minutes ago
After meeting with #Oilers medical staff, Nail Yakupov (hip) will not attend Russia’s @2015IIHFWorlds camp | READ > http://ow.ly/3xK23Y

Canada’s going to be in tough without their 3C in the lineup.

Seriously though, sorry for Nugent-Hopkins not having a chance to play. Glad he’ll get a summer to rest, though.

More sorry for Yakupov. He was coming around and I think he really wants to play for his country. Given how his last juniors went I think he wanted a chance to go back and prove something.

All the same, rest up and recuperate. This team is going to need a lot of summer training if they want the GM to remember their names come September.