G MONEY

Our friend G Money has been doing outstanding things at his blog (Oilers Nerd Alert) and we’ve all noticed. Our other friend Rex Libris took some time to ask G Money a few questions about his work and the ideas behind them. Now, without further delay, a fire side (well, it’s probably a computer screen) chat between Rex and G.

  • Rex: You’ve recently started a blog called Oilers Nerd Alert. With a title like that one would assume that it is stats heavy. Can you give us an idea of what sort of statistical analysis or topic you are focusing on? (I understand that it is fairly wide open, but how do you pick a topic to investigate?)
  • GMoney: The central theme right now is trying to draw out a little bit more resolution, more validity, in shot data (the much maligned and misunderstood Corsi, Fenwick, etc) by mixing in a little bit of the space-time continuum!
    Specifically, I think there’s lots of goodness to be had by looking not just at how many events happened, but the significance of where events happen (on their own or in relation to each other), and when events happen, within the game or in relation to each other.
  • Rex: What first drew my attention to your work was your concept of temporal corsi. Describe what this is and whether an inverse tachyon beam would collapse it or cause a further rupture to the IceTime continuum?
  • G: Temporal Corsi is just a fancy term to capture the time element of shot metrics.  There’s been some interesting work on this so far.  Dellow has looked at effects within x seconds after faceoffs.  Parkatti and a number of others have looked at rapid-fire shots aka rebounds.  Unsurprisingly, those tend to have a very high likelihood of scoring.  Fangda Li in Toronto has looked at patterns of how shots unfold over an entire game.  War-on-ice includes rebounds and rushes in their scoring chance metrics.
    The area that I’m particularly interested in looking at is cycles – what happens when a team holds possession for long periods of time in the offensive zone.  If you watch the Oilers, you see a lot of those – and not in a good way.  Does that create a lot of danger for the team being cycled, or is it just sound and fury?
    Now as far as what all this work may do to the universe … as I go forward, I’m mildly concerned about creating black holes that will swallow the Earth.   The counterpoint is that, if Oiler pro scouting hasn’t already created a black hole by now, I think we’re safe.

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  • Rex: What do you hope to accomplish with the Temporal Corsi project?
  • G: In the ‘small’, if I can use the time element to refine shot metrics to provide a better fit to what we see by eye when we watch a hockey game, that will be … most excellent.
    Until SportVu comes along and we can track every twitch of every player, we’re kind of stuck with what we’ve got (and even with SportVu, it will take years for us to be able to build up the data, properly access and process it, and then build and interpret the analytical tools).  The time and space aspects of existing data are still underutilized I think, so that’ll provide the fertile intermediate ground.
    So in the ‘large’, time and space effects will help get closer to the holy grail of shot metrics and help to deepen our understanding of the game.
    On a side note, somebody will read that and complain that you can’t understand hockey with numbers.   I’ve never understood why there are folks that think hockey is too ‘complex’ to be understood by measurement.
    There are an infinite number of vastly more complex human endeavours, from human physiology, to business, to chemistry, biology, and physics where measurement is necessary and fundamental to the process of understanding.  We’d all recognize that a doctor who relies entirely on diagnosis by eye and doesn’t ever feel the need to run lab tests is probably a quack!  You can’t run even the simplest business without some accounting measures.  Businesses have gone under because they didn’t understand a few simple cash flow numbers.
    The complexity of the game of hockey is childs play in comparison to either.  So how exactly is hockey too complex to be measured?
    Observing a situation and then having some relevant objective measurements of that situation will always give you a better understanding compared to just observing.  Always.  I can’t think of a situation where this isn’t true.

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  • Rex: Fair to say you like numbers?
  • G: Hmm… let’s say I have comfort in using and generating numbers.  What I like is understanding how and why things work.  More than ‘like’, I need to understand how things really are.   Been that way since I was a kid!  I think that’s actually true for every good scientist and engineer I’ve ever met.
  • Rex: I don’t think I’d say that this is beginner-level stuff you are working on here, so when you are writing what kind of audience do you have in mind?
  • G: That’s a tough question. At times, I do try and go out of my way to explain the background of what it is that I’m doing, but as you say, for some topics that’s not always possible.
    I think I’ve concluded that I’m writing this stuff because I think it has value and its nice for it to be archived and available somewhere – and people reading it is kind of icing on the cake.  I try to make the cake taste good whenever I can.
  • Rex: From an outsider’s perspective, the numbers can be intimidating, but you put effort into interpreting them and placing some context around them so they make sense. Is this something you can do naturally when you look at the graphs?
  • G: Quite the opposite actually.  Presenting data and analysis in a way that’s clear and intuitive is really hard.
    I have two ‘data presentation’ books (Few and Tufte) on my desk all the time.  Even so, I often end up trying to figure out a good visualization and can’t, and out of sheer laziness I end up going with a simple graph or even a table of numbers (the last refuge of the data scoundrel).
  • Rex: Thinking specifically of your Predictive Variables Extravaganzas (extravaganzae?), you broke down a number of more traditional standard statistical categories along with some of the newer standards (faceoff percentage, Corsi, PDO, shooting and save percentages) to examine repeatability. Repeatable performances is something of a touchy subject amongst Alberta hockey fans, for entirely opposite reasons. Was there anything there that surprised you?
  • G: I totally understand the touchiness. No one wants to hear their team might not be as successful next year. I actually started with fancystats because I remember some early positive Oiler circumstances, and those damn stats geeks kept pointing out that it was ‘unsustainable’.  I was pretty touchy about it, let me tell you!
    After they turned out to be right, I figured these things might just be able to add some insight … and here we are.
    Repeatability to my mind is at the heart of what stats can tell you.  It’s tough for sports fans to accept just how much random variation plays into results.  We prefer narratives about heart and grit to explain the unexplainable.  Looking at repeatability is a powerful way of getting beneath the covers, and separating what’s happening now with what’s likely to happen next year.
    The main thing that surprised me in looking at the correlations is just how little regular season special teams performance matters in the playoffs.  That’s actually what led me to figure the Flames might have a slight edge in the series with the ‘Nucks – they were even up in a lot of ways, and I know some folks were giving the Canucks the edge because of the regular season PK% and PP%.  If those things don’t carry over, well then …
    The other thing was a surprising correlation between Sv% and FO%.  It makes sense that FO% might help Sv% (winning defensive zone faceoffs presumably could reduce dangerous shots), but given that Sv% itself from year to year has little correlation … well, I’d say it’s likely a spurious correlation, so I never published it.  Maybe I’ll investigate some day …
  • Rex: Is there a particularly applicable category from that project you would recommend either fan base get to know?
  • G: Nothing specific.  I guess if you come away recognizing that repeatability matters, and certain things we assume are skill-based may be more luck-based than we think and won’t repeat … you’ll have more insight into the game, right?

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  • Rex: You’ve taken project suggestions from some other online commenters. Is this how you like to focus on new areas or do you have a particular preference when it comes to picking a subject to analyze?
  • G: I have that overarching goal I mentioned previously, of adding space and time components into shot metrics without destroying the planet in the process.  It’s a big project with tons of intermediate steps needed to get there, and I can only work on it at night or on weekends.  As I go forward gathering and processing the massive amounts of data (which I make available to all), interesting ideas pop up just because of all the data gathering.
    So I’ll post these random explorations of ideas that are either sideline projects or intermediate projects.  Since they’re part of a discovery process, if someone comes up with a question, I often find myself saying “Yeah, I’d like to see what happens there too” and off I go.
  • Rex: What is the principal thing you’d like visitors to your blog to leave with?
  • G: If they feel I helped give them some observable fact or even a tiny insight into the game that they didn’t have before – success!
  • Rex: Who would win in a fight: Steve McQueen’s turtleneck or Fonzie’s leather jacket?
  • G: I have to go with the jacket – you have to figure that turtlenecks have an inherent toughness cancellation effect.  Of course, Dave Semenko’s jersey would clean the clock of either!

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59 Responses to "G MONEY"

  1. dustrock says:

    awesome job, guys. I like statistical analysis when it’s dumbed down for scrubs like me. 🙂

    I’ve commented the last few years that the Oilers have been a great team on rushes or “counterattack”, but been very poor scoring with the cycle in a “halfcourt” offence, to randomly throw in soccer and basketball references.

    Seeing a breakdown of that cycle vs. rush and why it happens would be very interesting indeed.

  2. Bag of Pucks says:

    Visited NerdAlert for the first time yesterday and came away greatly impressed.

    Still want to draft a G in the 2nd round though ; )

  3. Pajamah says:

    Excellent post.

    I can read Lowetide’s stuff at ON, and have to deal with knuckledraggers, or I can come here and see intelligent, factual conversation, particularly from these 2 gentlemen, WG, and even sometimes DSF *spits*

    Goes to show why this is the best blog on the Oilogosphere, and the support of other insightful additions makes it even better. I, for one, welcome our nerd overlords. More words to keep me from doing my job.

  4. Woodguy says:

    Watch the game nerds.

  5. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    I’m waiting for a Ricki blog. That’s what I want for Christmas this year.

    I’m happy for Gmoney though because it makes me cool by association. I like to think we’re like the internet message board version of fourth cousins…

  6. Ribs says:

    Interesting….

    The Buffalo Sabres made a pitch to Babcock before he joined Holland earlier this week in Prague to watch the World Championships. The Toronto Maple Leafs are also believed to have talked to Babcock. The Philadelphia Flyers are interested. The Edmonton Oilers have not requested permission. – Link

  7. RexLibris says:

    Frost/Nixon can BITE ME!

    Also, I love what G Money is doing, but he is categorically wrong on the McQueen/Fonzie question. What G needs to remember is that Steve McQueen was wearing a tactical turtleneck whereas the Fonz, while preternaturally cool in virtually all situations, could not be said to have the same level of awesome.

    http://www.avclub.com/article/now-you-can-own-sterling-archer-tactleneck-213665

  8. PeOiler says:

    Love that Pac-man chart. Reminds me of this one: http://imgur.com/gallery/gkj0RoV/new

  9. Lowetide says:

    Turtlenecks drool.

  10. Ducey says:

    You lost me when you mentioned cake.

    Mmmm…cake

  11. Rip Fan Winkle "OilOnslaught" says:

    Thanks guys. I enjoy your stuff G and I have a question for you – how much money is enough money?
    Those of us who love the Oilers and stats now only have here and you occasionally posting at your place to get our fix.

    Perhaps its time to make your mark in another area!

  12. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy:
    Watch the game nerds.

    Why would I do that when I have a program that breaks down the play and sends it to my 286 in text form so I can read along while I’m playing Bard’s Tale II?

  13. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide:
    Turtlenecks drool.

    Sour grapes.

    Not everybody was born with the neck structure to wear one.

  14. RexLibris says:

    Strome is not responding well in this game.

  15. Lowetide says:

    Strome has been terrible for some time now.

  16. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide:
    Strome has been terrible for some time now.

    I wonder if Maloney takes a longer look at Hanifin and focuses on how best to approach next year’s draft.

    Hanifin and Ekman-Larsson is a good way to start to build a team.

  17. frjohnk says:

    RexLibris: I wonder if Maloney takes a longer look at Hanifin and focuses on how best to approach next year’s draft.

    Hanifin and Ekman-Larsson is a good way to start to build a team.

    And they can tank for another year and get a small shot at getting Matthews.

  18. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Erie crumbling. 4-1 Oshawa. Pretty awful goaltending

    Don’t think we’ll be seeing McD break the playoff scoring record 🙁

  19. RexLibris says:

    If Oshawa makes the Memorial Cup at least we’ll have some comfortable ground from which to cheer:

    Leon Draisaitl v Hunter Smith

  20. RexLibris says:

    frjohnk: And they can tank for another year and get a small shot at getting Matthews.

    Matthews or another top rated C prospect.

  21. Ryan says:

    I haven’t read one word of this post. 🙂

    I’m in a rush heading out for dinner to the Keg.

    GMoney really is money for us NERDS since he has the technical expertise to scrape NHL.com data… Create a database… Crunch numbers…

    I still have some ideas percolating that I would like to send his way.

  22. leadfarmer says:

    Not that it means anything but hockey’s future has Draisatl and nurse ranked 9 and 6 respectively. At least they are recognized, cause you know, Oilers ruin all their prospects.

  23. Gordies Elbow says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Erie crumbling. 4-1 Oshawa. Pretty awful goaltending

    Don’t think we’ll be seeing McD break the playoff scoring record

    It’s a team game, and an unfortunate one for Erie.

    Connor McDavid is a unique player, and showed it during this game. Oiler fans should be happy – he’ll be healthy and likely a little pissed off.

  24. HiddenDarts says:

    Dang. Everyone’s going solo these days.

    I still feel like G Money’s early stuff with Lowetide was his best work. 😀

  25. Woodguy says:

    RexLibris: Why would I do that when I have a program that breaks down the play and sends it to my 286 in text form so I can read along while I’m playing Bard’s Tale II?

    When I played Bard’s Tale (might have been II) on my Commodore 64. I didn’t figure out until the very end of the game that you could quick scroll the battle text.

    I’d engage against a couple hundred foes and then read for 30 minutes while the battle scrolled slowly.

    True story.

  26. Gordies Elbow says:

    “Connor McDavid, who was held off the scoresheet for the second time this series, was handed the Wayne Gretzky Trophy as OHL Playoff MVP. McDavid, the almost certainly first overall pick this summer’s NHL Draft, recorded 21 goals and 28 assists for 49 points in 20 playoff games this season. ”

    OHL MVP and WHL MVP?

    #SoDissapointedInDarnell

  27. MrEd says:

    Marc Bergevin tonight gave me extra pause in my consideration of the general conversation that Leon is or could be, a player that is expendable.
    Centres with size are rare he exclaimed. He didn’t parse a word. Joe Thornton was the last centre he could remember that was available. That was a long time ago.

    Pou-RNH-Eb
    Hall-McD-Ward
    Hendricks-Lander-Yak
    xxx-Gordon-xxx

    xxx-xxx
    Klef-Fayne
    Marincin-xxx

    xxx-xxx

    I love the Ward suggestion over the last few days. His ilk gives us options up and down the first 3 lines. Furthermore, there are spots open for graduates on the the 4th line and Leon can fill in for injury. Leo in the A as a push makes too much sense.

    Outside of my line-up: Schulz, Ference, Purcell, Niki, Kilnk, Scriv, THIS YEARS 16TH, NEXT YEARS FIRST.

  28. square_wheels says:

    MrEd,

    He’s not available, it would take a pretty crazy offer for a 3rd overall trending well. As for your outside of lineup list, can’t agree more.

    Having said that, Ward would be a nice RW addition but I prefer Frolik. Fits the cluster well, is a left shot RW and would naturally slide up if Yak faulters.

    Williams on a 2 yr for similar 2015 dollars would be ok.

    Absolutely need those 2 D, please please please sign Sekera.

  29. frjohnk says:

    G Money has done some pretty neat advanced stats stuff on his site. But I think he has only just scratched the surface. Can’t wait until he finishes his “to do list”

    Great stuff bud

  30. Woodguy says:

    RexLibris,

    Describe what this is and whether an inverse tachyon beam would collapse it or cause a further rupture to the IceTime continuum?

    Best.

  31. Woodguy says:

    Awesome stuff gents.

    I agree with Padre John.

    I need G to create a dummy proof interface so noobs like me can sift and sort his data.

    Make it so!

  32. Woodguy says:

    Question about the graph in the header:

    If the section that didn’t look like Pac Man was not there, would the other section still look like Pac Man?

  33. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Woodguy,

    Loved that game. Played it at one friends on the C64 and another’s on the Apple2e.

    Friend still has the original box and a ‘fast load’ cartridge by his computer.

    Mangar’s Mind Blade was Awesome.

  34. frjohnk says:

    Woodguy,

    Some stuff you can use for your Nuevirth post as I was running some numbers comparing Nuevirth and Bernier.

    I used the goalies save percentage from the low, medium and high danger areas in each year since 10-11. Then I calculated the adjusted save % of these two goalies when faced with what the oilers gave up in regards to low, medium and high danger shot locations from the 14-15 season. League average save % in the low, medium and high danger areas with oiler shots against would have been 0.911.

    I also put down games started and quality starts percentage. Quality starts are when a goalie posts a save % that is league average or better in a game. Or they allow no more than 2 goals in a goal with less than 20 shots. Quality start % of 53% in a season is an average goalie, over 60% is good.
    Nuevirth
    10-11___0.910 Games Started 44, Quality Starts 48%
    11-12___0.900 Games Started 30, Quality Starts 50%
    12-13___0.900 Games Started 12, Quality Starts 58%
    13-14___0.919 Games Started 13, Quality Starts 69%
    14-15___0.911 Games Started 32, Quality Starts 53%

    Career__0.909 Games Started 150, Quality Starts 53%

    Bernier
    10-11___0.906 Games Started 22, Quality Starts 64%
    11-12___0.901 Games Started 13, Quality Starts 46%
    12-13___0.920 Games Started 12, Quality Starts 67%
    13-14___0.918 Games Started 49, Quality Starts 61%
    14-15___0.913 Games Started 54, Quality Starts 48%

    Career__0.912 Games Started 157, Quality Starts 55%

  35. jp says:

    Great stuff GMoney. I was aware of some of this before today, but hadn’t yet checked your blog out. Very cool!

    And LT, thanks for directing us there.

  36. jp says:

    Ca$h-McMoney!:
    I’m waiting for a Ricki blog.That’s what I want for Christmas this year.

    I believe Ricki’s ideas are in the mail somewhere. That’s what I hear anyway. It’s possible you’ll receive them in time for Christmas.

  37. Woodguy says:

    frjohnk:
    Woodguy,

    Some stuff you can use for your Nuevirth post as I was running some numbers comparing Nuevirth and Bernier.

    I used the goalies save percentage from the low, medium and high danger areas in each year since 10-11.Then I calculated the adjusted save % of these two goalies when faced with what the oilers gave up in regards to low, medium and high danger shot locations from the 14-15 season.League average save % in the low, medium and high danger areas with oiler shots against would have been 0.911.

    I also put down games started and quality starts percentage. Quality starts are when a goalie posts a save % that is league average or better in a game.Or they allow no more than 2 goals in a goal with less than 20 shots.Quality start % of 53% in a season is an average goalie, over 60% is good.
    Nuevirth
    10-11___0.910Games Started 44, Quality Starts 48%
    11-12___0.900Games Started 30, Quality Starts 50%
    12-13___0.900Games Started 12, Quality Starts 58%
    13-14___0.919Games Started 13, Quality Starts 69%
    14-15___0.911Games Started 32, Quality Starts 53%

    Career__0.909 Games Started 150, Quality Starts 53%

    Bernier
    10-11___0.906Games Started 22, Quality Starts 64%
    11-12___0.901Games Started 13, Quality Starts 46%
    12-13___0.920Games Started 12, Quality Starts 67%
    13-14___0.918Games Started 49, Quality Starts 61%
    14-15___0.913Games Started 54, Quality Starts 48%

    Career__0.912Games Started 157, Quality Starts 55%

    Very cool.

    Can you do the same with Talbot over the last two years for comparison?

    I’ll give you first billing on the post.

  38. G Money says:

    Wow!

    So I decided to work remotely today, which let me head to the cabin last night. What a drive – three bears, a moose, several elk, hundreds of deer, and a herd of bighorn sheep blockading the highway.

    Then an absolutely beaut of day today. I stopped in to get my hockey talk fix and – whaaaat?! My name in bright lights … whew.

    A gazillion thank yous to Allan and Rex for the chance to talk about the stuff I’m working on and the blog, and even moreso for them to saddle you guys with it!

    A lot of what I do has been inspired by the discussions here, so hopefully when this comes to fruition, maybe it will make a bit of a splash. And if so, everyone here take a bow!

    BoP, Pajamah, Hidden, Padre, JP: Many thanks for the kind words.

    Cash: Hey Cuz!

    Rip: I wish retirement was that close. Three kids say different . . . my wife bugs me all the time as I’m working on this stuff – “… is there some way you can make money doing this stuff?!? Whaddaya mean you do it for ‘fun’??” Even my wife thinks I’m strange (she’s right).

    Rex: You never said it was a tactical turtleneck! I may have considered changing my answer (though Semenko’s jersey still rules).

    WG: Interface = hopefully someday. A PITA for sure, but Excel sort and filter will have to suffice til then!

    Ryan: Fire away when you got ’em and let’s see if we come up with something interesting!

  39. Lowetide says:

    Turtlenecks are not comfortable, people. They were leftover torture from the war. You can’t go back. Be thankful.

  40. theres oil in virginia says:

    G Money: Rex: You never said it was a tactical turtleneck! I may have considered changing my answer (though Semenko’s jersey still rules).

    Hockey numbers are cool, the Flames suck, blah blah blah…yeah, we already know about all that. What you fail to understand is that if a man can wear a turtleneck and live, then there’s nothing that can hurt him…except maybe asbestos. RIP, King of Cool.

  41. Diesel says:

    Turtlenecks are for swindlers like Nicholas Andre and Alexei Yashin.

  42. oliveoilers says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogG2p_ZUaaQ

    Don’t forget to accessorise!

  43. Ben says:

    Hall has been fucking splendid in this tournament. A level of on-ice vision that I hadn’t yet seen from him.

    We should remember that the players Edmonton drafted high are “gamers” who haven’t yet had the chance to play meaningful games in the NHL.

    Here’s hoping they get an occasion to rise to sooner rather than later.

  44. oliveoilers says:

    Hall, from Eberle and Crosby.

    Lordy, what a line.

  45. Pouzar says:

    What a great setup by Simmonds there….oh wait……that was Eberle…..probably floating.

  46. oliveoilers says:

    Hey G,

    Would just like to forward my profound respect for your work and commitment. I foresee a need for this, an application of which MacT could well have used: Which players do you actually ‘see’ good, which are the best to take ‘bets’ on having rebound season and so on.

    I’ll never understand every nuance of advanced stats, but can easily see how they can benefit us.

    From the Book of Bart: With your book smarts, and my ability to exploit people with book smarts, we’ll be unstoppable!

    Once again, well done old chap!

  47. oliveoilers says:

    Pouzar:
    What a great setup by Simmonds there….oh wait……that was Eberle…..probably floating.

    Extremely one dimensional and incomplete play by Eberle. That pass was NOT 200ft, therefore he is not a 200ft player.

  48. Pouzar says:

    oliveoilers: Extremely one dimensional and incomplete play by Eberle.That pass was NOT 200ft, therefore he is not a 200ft player.

    He isn’t a 200 ft player…he’s a 210 ft player. 🙂
    My eyes were bleeding reading that nonsense yesterday.

    Bruce McMcCurdy ‏@BruceMcCurdy 12m12 minutes ago
    Hall & Ebs with so,e excellent work deep on their own territory in the bulld up to that goal too. Czechs really bringing the pressure

  49. theres oil in virginia says:

    Pouzar: He isn’t a 200 ft player…he’s a 210 ft player.
    My eyes were bleeding reading that nonsense yesterday.

    Ha! I figured you had fled the scene. Excellent bit of self control.

    Did Eberle at least glare at somebody after the pass? Cuz, if not…

  50. SwedishPoster says:

    Spectacular game between Canada and the Czechs. Highly entertaining. Halls skating looks like its back to its old self. Flying out there.

  51. Pouzar says:

    theres oil in virginia: Ha!I figured you had fled the scene.Excellent bit of self control.

    Did Eberle at least glare at somebody after the pass?Cuz, if not…

    No glare but he did do a crotch chop.

    Gotta go and update the scrapbook. 😉

  52. Pouzar says:

    Spezza is awesome.

  53. oliveoilers says:

    Hall – 2mins high sticking.

    Yet more evidence that we drafted the wrong player.

  54. frjohnk says:

    Woodguy: Very cool.

    Can you do the same with Talbot over the last two years for comparison?

    I’ll give you first billing on the post.

    Talbot is no good, but you should know that already. 🙂
    JK, will do.

  55. Pouzar says:

    Bruce McMcCurdy ‏@BruceMcCurdy 2m2 minutes ago
    Eberle pays the price, gets crunched but makes the good pass to key the zone exit.

  56. Pouzar says:

    What are the chances that Spezza slashing call is a penalty in the NHL playoffs?
    Weak call.

  57. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide:
    Turtlenecks are not comfortable, people. They were leftover torture from the war. You can’t go back. Be thankful.

    That settles it.

    You’re getting a turtleneck AND socks for Christmas this year.

  58. leadfarmer says:

    Lowetide,

    In the words of Mitch Hedberg, turtlenecks are like being choked by a really weak guy.

  59. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy: When I played Bard’s Tale (might have been II) on my Commodore 64. I didn’t figure out until the very end of the game that you could quick scroll the battle text.

    I’d engage against a couple hundred foes and then read for 30 minutes while the battle scrolled slowly.

    True story.

    Just think of all the rich in-game experience you had, though! 🙂

    Reminds me of my friend who programmed his XT to play single-player text Monopoly.

    I think it was more about the challenge of making a system do what you asked back then.

    It doesn’t even seem like the same world as what people do now with mods on console games and the like.

    I think I spent FAR too much time playing BT II way back when. Mangar’s Mallet was the trump card spell to use, if I recall correctly.

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